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Speaker 2: But where were so repressed in our society where everyone

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Speaker 1: Kicking them off, like you're in like seven Brides for

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Speaker 2: Ah, and the freedom charms were popping off of all

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Speaker 4: I guess it's Mitch. It's Mike, Mitchell, get it done.

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Speaker 1: this stuff, the deep dive that you host with June.

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Speaker 4: Because of the beforehand.

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Speaker 5: It was as if you guys don't even know each other,

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Speaker 5: The one upmanship, yes, yes.

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Speaker 3: The competition that is, oh my ugly, ugly.

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Speaker 5: Right, Nobody in a small talk exchange. And I and

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Speaker 2: That that's so, that's so, that's so beautiful, and it's

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Speaker 5: Right, well, I handled you. I handled you big time.

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Speaker 5: Oh, and what is this that's a cry for help

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Speaker 5: But for me, I'm like, oh, you've got a tortoise.

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Speaker 5: Someone's got a tortoise. I mean that that work has

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Speaker 3: Did you get it?

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Speaker 5: How long does it live? Where is it from?

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Speaker 4: So guys are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy, the guy was a great, great block

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Speaker 4: Okay, surgery happens.

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Speaker 2: Get comfortable, Yeah he got he said it was on

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing where there's just a pandemic.

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Speaker 5: Let's absolutely absolutely some of us are coming out on top,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you lock me inside, I start doing push ups.

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Speaker 5: Right. But what I but what I feel like you

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, and and you can't.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've learned as block co captain soon to

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Speaker 5: You were being handled. But and and when I say that,

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Speaker 5: Probably never, I'm gonna say that, she said, she said,

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Speaker 5: I'm never going to physically physically touch you in a

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Speaker 3: No, you'll have him with the heasy scenario.

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Speaker 1: Okay, get the air, Yeah, pump could go yet dream shake.

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Speaker 5: You got to make sure that people don't think that

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Speaker 5: And how well then the proof is in the pudding.

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Speaker 5: How was it taken? What happened when you after you

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Speaker 1: The police called the police, you know, like, which is

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Speaker 5: Okay, God, guys, I haven't been blade and I never will. Okay,

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Speaker 4: We studied the Blade, we studied the Blade?

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Speaker 3: Is it the Blade?

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Speaker 4: The Blade too, we.

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Speaker 1: Studied the Blade Trinity. The character's name is called the Blade.

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Speaker 5: Yes, okay, I've never.

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Speaker 5: Well you're lucky because you were running away. It sounds

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Speaker 5: You know, that's actually a really big part of small

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 5: So a lot of people think that small talk is

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Speaker 4: Let's get in there.

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Speaker 3: Great, great, and so get rid of the bullshit. You

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Speaker 3: know what I mean. Very I'm sorry you said what

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Speaker 4: That's what it's all about.

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Speaker 3: Right, No, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 4: We're all doing it.

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Speaker 5: So sex, Okay, that's a more. I wouldn't do that

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Speaker 5: if you were a novice small talker because again, that

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's why then I don't want I'm not here

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Speaker 4: Nope.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna think that person's a psycho.

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Speaker 3: Because it's too formal. Right, it's no home boy.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, okay again, even where it's like homeboy, like,

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait, what did you just say more universally?

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Speaker 4: Just kind of struggling to like get out.

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Speaker 5: Just no, I'm saying you could bring up sex, you

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Speaker 5: I mean who has the time for it or something?

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Speaker 5: If you're too I'm sorry, what No, we never.

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Speaker 5: No, no, I wasn't. So you never want to give

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Speaker 2: In this case, you imagine that your husband. But again,

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Speaker 3: I would say for you guys.

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Speaker 5: And I don't want to again, just like the Blade,

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Speaker 3: So what I would say for you guys, because.

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Speaker 5: Really like you're remedial, like you need to stick to

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Speaker 3: Know, the weather's so shallow, you know.

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Speaker 5: Again, like I said, shallow to go deep, Like if

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Speaker 5: to start small, right Does that make sense to me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? No, And I want this so.

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Speaker 5: Bad and I can tell. And that's also it's good

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Speaker 1: This and maybe Kevin, you can actually like try to

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Speaker 4: What we're working with.

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Speaker 4: So what you're pulling up is the other podcast, Kevin, and.

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Speaker 2: I'm enjoying.

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00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 5: How could I just ask like how was he showing

448
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 5: his enjoyment?

449
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: Like how did you know he was silence?

450
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 5: Silence?

451
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 3: Okay, because something.

452
00:22:54,240 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 2: In silence, yes, like awe, like, wow, I am witnessing

453
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 2: some really primo small talk right now, and I don't

454
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: even and I don't even want to, you know, mess

455
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 2: up the flow by chiming in, so that that part

456
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 2: felt great.

457
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 5: And he was leaning back physically. So sometimes when you

458
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 5: get a cue that someone doesn't want to maybe engage

459
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 5: in spots when they physically remove their body from this

460
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 5: or lean back.

461
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 2: Not only was he not only was he doing that,

462
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: he started looking around the room like is anyone else

463
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: seeing this? Like? Am I the only one witnessing they've achievement?

464
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: Small talk like somebody else? Real?

465
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 2: You know, like yeah, like am I going to remember

466
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 2: all of this? Like I need you know, I need

467
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: more of a of an audience, a community to moment.

468
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 5: Wow, okay, why would Yeah, I would obviously need to

469
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 5: hear exactly what you guys were saying to see if

470
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 5: that was exactly that.

471
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: Well, Kevin's sharing Hevin's got a clip of him on

472
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: another pod Computers and it's a more popular podcast. Okay,

473
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: so this is yeah, like he went on here afterwards,

474
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: and this is his description that's.

475
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: Sort of like bolstered by the meeting.

476
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we love Kurt, very impressive background. This is

477
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 4: this is top. It looks like you're doing you're doing

478
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,959
Speaker 4: something good. Over there in Pennsylvania.

479
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 7: This this over here was used against me. I did

480
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 7: one of those podcasts called Hollywood Handbook, you know that.

481
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: Thing we've we've also done Hollywood Handbook, and Hayes has

482
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: been a gust on the show. They got me good,

483
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: they got they got you good in what way?

484
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 7: You know, maybe this is supposed to be a secret

485
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 7: or something at least in the podcast, but that the

486
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 7: description was, Oh, they're supposed to be just some Hollywood

487
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 7: assholes and just play along.

488
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: Sure, so I did so I.

489
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 7: Did play along, but I didn't know. Nobody told me

490
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 7: they'd be Hollywood assholes.

491
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 4: To me, that is a difference. That's a kind of

492
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 4: important fact to leave out.

493
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 7: So they were like just dissecting my lyrics and using

494
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 7: them against me, and then they used at the very end,

495
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 7: they were like, what's that up there? I was like,

496
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 7: that's an Oxford English dictionary and they're like, well, maybe

497
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 7: I ought to use that next time you try to

498
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 7: write some songs by and then they hung up the

499
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 7: really yeah, And at one time I because I said

500
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 7: shut up at one point because the characters were so

501
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 7: mean that I was just like, I was just trying

502
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 7: to play a long but don't get me wrong, I'm

503
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 7: glad I met them. They they were nice before and after,

504
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 7: but still I don't know. It took me two days

505
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 7: to recover.

506
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, two days you were kind of plotting your revenge maybe.

507
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 4: Even see.

508
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: Okay, So it was the the work we put in

509
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: on the before and after.

510
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: As you heard him say, it went amazing.

511
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: That before and after the show he actually thought we

512
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: were really nice guys, you know, and he was glad

513
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: he met us.

514
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

515
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 5: Right, and then you really got him on the show.

516
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 4: Well, we're no one's trying to get it.

517
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: We had just used up all nice things.

518
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: Yes, well yeah, we're afraid. So we're you know, we

519
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: thought because we'd been wanting to improve the small talk before.

520
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,959
Speaker 2: You know, before this, we were talking about let's make

521
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: it better. But then we go, well then when we

522
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: go to do the show, we're all out of good ship.

523
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 5: M Well, certain people could you know, have enough energy

524
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 5: to go one twice three times in a row.

525
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: You know, you guys want to talk about.

526
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 5: One good shot in you is what it sounds like.

527
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 5: And so you've got to either build up your stamina okay,

528
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 5: and maybe think more about the other person than just

529
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 5: like what you guys are getting out of it, you know.

530
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: I like, I'm like Kurt, but who has you and your.

531
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 4: I need a few days to recover you.

532
00:26:54,560 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: And your tired mom friends acknowledge like no because the time.

533
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 5: Well, it sounds like you really like hurt his feelings,

534
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 5: you know, and that's not ever what we want in

535
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 5: a small talk situation, you.

536
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 4: Know, because that's great to know, that's how okay.

537
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: I'm actually I'm going to take that down.

538
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 5: Being insulted like you insulted him that thing about the

539
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 5: Oxford dictionary, Like that's really tough, you know. Yeah, it

540
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 5: sounds if I were if I were small talking with

541
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 5: a musician, I would ask like, hey, you know, like what,

542
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 5: oh I love that song. First of all, complimenting is

543
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 5: a huge thing for small talking because it's always good

544
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 5: if there's.

545
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: Antic shell asshole to the swartoise.

546
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 5: That again, you're sending all sorts of mixed messages because

547
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 5: you're complimenting the shell and yet kicking it and pushing

548
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 5: it along, and you called it an asshole, you know,

549
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 5: and it's it was hard to know, like are you

550
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 5: talking to the owner.

551
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: Rays nice shell? I lead with a nice shell, which

552
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: is a compliment. So it's just and that is you're

553
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 2: sending mixed messages.

554
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 4: It's like I'm sending big messages. But that's what I'm

555
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 4: gonna go here.

556
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: Absolutely right.

557
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 5: You said nice shell, and that would have actually been

558
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 5: a wonderful entry if you hadn't followed it up with

559
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 5: asshole or breaking.

560
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: It great you know.

561
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 5: So, But yeah, I mean listen, if I was talking

562
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 5: to a musician, I'd say, oh my god, I love

563
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 5: you know, tell me something I don't know about, you know, songwriting,

564
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 5: or like how did you come up with that song

565
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 5: or is there an inspiration behind that?

566
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: So try bandmates and.

567
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: They're always like I'm doing a show or whatever, and

568
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I'm trying to talk to you about

569
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: the show, like I'm trying to show interest.

570
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 5: Here are you in the audience? Are you screaming it

571
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 5: out anymore?

572
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: I climbed up.

573
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like, hey, I actually appreciate what you're doing,

574
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: and I I, yes, I have.

575
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm the guy that gets it. Like whenever I'm at

576
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: one of these shows, like.

577
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: I'm the only one among the all these fucking chumps

578
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: who actually gets what they're trying to do. Let me

579
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: get up there and dig in help them teach the

580
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: audience like something like you said that they.

581
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 3: Don't know about songwriting.

582
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: So I so I try to get up there, and

583
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: you can say how much somebody here who actually you know,

584
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: is on your level.

585
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: How much effort I put climbing up there? You show

586
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: like like really how interested I am? The elastic on

587
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: my shorts is kind of like coming down a little

588
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: bit from the from the friction as I.

589
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: Like, as a scrambling other. Nobody's helping me.

590
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: Right right, and.

591
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: Like doing the opposite.

592
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get tased.

593
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 5: I bet, I mean, I get bet. There's a couple

594
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 5: of security that are scrambling to get you down from there.

595
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: That's their job.

596
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: And somehow the effect of the taser is just my

597
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: shorts coming down even more.

598
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 4: I don't know why.

599
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 5: So you're now standing pantsless on stage.

600
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: Sure, no, no, they're hanging that pants list they're hanging

601
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: off one of my feet.

602
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 5: Okay, so you're dragging your pants. And what I would

603
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 5: say to you guys always is, you know, while you're

604
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 5: kind of dipping your toes into the small tark world,

605
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 5: see what the result is the cause and the effect

606
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 5: if you're landing in jail. If you are rendered immobile

607
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 5: by a taser, that's probably not something we want to reap.

608
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: Something went wrong either on their end or mind.

609
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, probably yours if you were the initiator.

610
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, we don't want to generalize and

611
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: go like, oh, it's always on me that I'm.

612
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: In the No, it's a dance.

613
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 5: It's a very delicate dance. It's a very delicate.

614
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: Everybody you know has to learn. So in a in

615
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: a this is actually helped. Well, I'm glad this came

616
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: up organically. So in a small talk situation, if someone

617
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: says small tark, if the purported expert says small tark,

618
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: do I pause and let them reset?

619
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 5: Wait did I say small tark?

620
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who forget it.

621
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to like.

622
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 5: I would listen, guys, I'm writing a really serious book.

623
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 5: So if I said small tark, I want you guys

624
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 5: to edit that out.

625
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So Kevin, just Kevin.

626
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: We could do is go back through And I don't

627
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: remember who said it, But but if someone said it,

628
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: would I, you know, with telling them, I guess you're

629
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: saying it would be helpful to inform them.

630
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: No, because then they can.

631
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 5: If we're in a small tark scenario, did I just

632
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 5: say it again?

633
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: God? Damn it. It's this heat.

634
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 5: I'm in this New Hampshire heat, and I.

635
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: Feel like, my, oh my god. If you're in.

636
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 5: A small tark situation and they keep saying it, you

637
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 5: actually don't. That would be an unusual thing. That would

638
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 5: actually be embarrassing if you pointed it out, So you

639
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 5: would actually want to let that go. It's more like somebody, Yeah,

640
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 5: like somebody decides to have a turtle. They're asking four

641
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 5: questions about the turtle. So I feel okay about that.

642
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 5: If somebody has a speech impediment possibly or they're having

643
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 5: a stroke, you don't want to, you know, bring attention

644
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 5: to that unless you need to seek medical attention.

645
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: Here's one what if they have something in their teeth?

646
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 5: Do I have something in my teeth?

647
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: It's not about like, well, now I have.

648
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 5: To check do I have something in my teeth? I

649
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 5: was just eating a fig bar.

650
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: And to me it looks like cocaine.

651
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 5: Okay, listen, I'm with my parents right now, okay, and I'm.

652
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 4: We all got to do yeah, we all got to

653
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: do what to get there?

654
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: You know, I have to Okay, okay, so it's yeah,

655
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, not before I've had my bump eaten

656
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: my yeah. Yeah yeah.

657
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 5: So anyway, so yeah, you want to make sure you

658
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 5: don't make that person feel uncomfortable in any way. So no,

659
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say anything about about the teeth. I would

660
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 5: just keep going unless it's you know, you could I

661
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 5: guess you could pause at some point to say I'm

662
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 5: so sorry you have a little something. But then they

663
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 5: have to like yeah, let them know for sure, and

664
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 5: then you can have small talk afterwards. Oh my god,

665
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 5: thank you so much. Know these bees are crazy? Anything

666
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 5: else you know about you know, it's funny like I

667
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 5: heard that bees were endangered, but what are they up

668
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 5: to here? They don't seem very endangered, you.

669
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: Know, don't.

670
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't yeah, don't know.

671
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 5: Again, I don't know how you'd make that leap. It

672
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 5: sounds like you guys if you heard it. Wait what

673
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 5: the birds and the bees?

674
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah? Again?

675
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 5: Like I just feel like, especially this is that your

676
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 5: Don Knott's impression that was strange voices had a very

677
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 5: done Knotz esque and.

678
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: It's my Don Knots impression. You'll know it was that.

679
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 4: It again.

680
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: If you have to ask, that's it. Can't afford it.

681
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 5: Honestly, that's it. You were like, you literally sound so much.

682
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 5: I would love for Kevin to find a clip and

683
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 5: just put him back to back.

684
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: He did, we he just he already pulled and I'm

685
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 4: going to have him put And.

686
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 6: I got to make all these edits with the torque

687
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 6: small talk.

688
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 5: I knew this was a mistake.

689
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: We're out of tokens.

690
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 5: Kurfile did text me to say, whatever you do, do

691
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 5: not get on with these assholes. And I should have

692
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 5: listened to him. And I just thought I'd give you

693
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 5: guys another chance.

694
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: But well, and and and I think and I think

695
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: we've gotten some good advice that will help the next

696
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: time Kurbile hopefully comes back or anyone.

697
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 5: Doesn't sound like he'll be back. I mean, do you

698
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 5: guys have many repeat guests? That isn't John Gabils That's.

699
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 3: Another thing we wanted to ask about.

700
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 4: We don't really have him that much anymore either, exactly.

701
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 5: And if you offend John gabriis like, then you've done.

702
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 5: You've said something really bad, because that guy really seems

703
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 5: to be down to clown, you know, but you did

704
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 5: the show.

705
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 6: In twenty fourteen, you're kind of a regular.

706
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 5: I know, it's interesting. Twenty fourteen got it's the lifetime

707
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 5: is we've lived through a deadly pandemic.

708
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: Since then, you know, some stuff has changed.

709
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 5: Recessions, you know, financial upswigs, the crash of the market.

710
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 5: You know, it's just been a lot that's gone on

711
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 5: between that. And you're gonna want to think about that. Wow,

712
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 5: And I don't.

713
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: I put absolutely no blame on you whatsoever for like

714
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: what you did in that episode, like causing any of

715
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: that stuff.

716
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 5: I appreciate that because I have, honestly, like I it's

717
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 5: almost like when you have a very traumatic event and

718
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 5: it goes so it gets buried so deep into your psyche.

719
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 5: I have no memory of.

720
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: What we're doing that.

721
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: I want to go on record anyone who tries to

722
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: trace the results of the twenty sixteen election back to

723
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: your twenty fourteen podcast appearance on Hollywood Handbookings.

724
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: Some of the rhetoric you used.

725
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: Wow, is stretching. They are reaching, grasping its straws.

726
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: It's barely I related.

727
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 5: I can only hope that episode remains behind the paywall.

728
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 5: That's all I could hope, And if I could pay

729
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 5: to have it be put behind the paywall.

730
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: That's the real paywall. Now I would do that.

731
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 5: Do you guys find that a lot of your guests

732
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 5: offer to pay you to not release their episode, because

733
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 5: that would be one of those those ding ding ding

734
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 5: like we may be.

735
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: Making onto something financially yet.

736
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 5: Oh no, that if they're saying like hey please, and

737
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 5: you go, well, you signed an NDA or you signed

738
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 5: a contract, you know, which I thought was very strange

739
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 5: that I was fed next legal papers I had to sign.

740
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: It is a little unusual to sign an NDA. It's

741
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: about podcast appearance, which will be you know, ideally released

742
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: unless you want to make it worth our while to

743
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: keep it right.

744
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 5: Like that that now you know, and again I'm with

745
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 5: my parents. It's been a long couple of weeks, but

746
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 5: like I really those those are those are that's right?

747
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 5: Those are some warning bells and that should have gone

748
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 5: off for me, Like what what's going to be said?

749
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 5: You know? What am I going to say?

750
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 4: Small talk question?

751
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: Sure?

752
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: Really the art of kind of like saying it without

753
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: saying it, Like say you have been in an empty

754
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: room podcasting from an empty room for like weeks and

755
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: weeks and then suddenly like a couch appears in there,

756
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: uh huh, and like you're just kind of like waiting

757
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: for everyone to like and it's really distracting from the

758
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: show that there's this couch there and you're just like

759
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: waiting for people to ask, like to see you lounge

760
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: on the couch, you know what I mean, And like

761
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: you don't offer it, Like it's kind of selfish in

762
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: a way to be like, hey, like do you guys

763
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: want to see if he go lounge on the couch?

764
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: You you wait for the other person to like ask

765
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: for it, you know what I mean.

766
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 5: So you're in it. So is this something that's happened

767
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 5: to you? If we're going to be vulnerable, is this

768
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 5: something that's happening to you.

769
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 4: It's kind of interesting now that you mention it.

770
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: Like I have sort of been this whole time sort

771
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: of unable to hear or see anything that's happening because

772
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: like in my head, I'm just thinking, like, when is

773
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: he going to go lounge on that thing?

774
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 5: I see?

775
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 3: We're talking about the couch.

776
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, the volume of the couches got it, and you

777
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 5: want to see him. So what you're saying is you

778
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 5: gotta you've got to see him. Want you got to

779
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 5: see him lay down on it? Do you want it?

780
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 3: Is you nap on it? Or just like to see

781
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: you I just.

782
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 2: Don't fall asleep. Yeah, I'd like to see him start

783
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: to drift off catch it.

784
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: It is a pull out. Okay.

785
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 5: So if you said that in an exchange, okay. So

786
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 5: if so, if we're meeting for the first time and

787
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 5: I said, oh I love your couch, it's all exact,

788
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 5: that's going to be another one of those sexual warning

789
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 5: bells that's going to go off in my head and

790
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna.

791
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 4: Essica, what happened?

792
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: You're probably oh my gosh, what happened?

793
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 5: Fingy Oh No, this is just a rubber band.

794
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: Guys, you got it. Why did you need a rubber

795
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 3: band where things flying around? Papers and things? Guys?

796
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 5: I am feeling so I am trying to keep my

797
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 5: rage down me too, that I have to stretch this

798
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 5: so that I don't get enraged that I'm being You know,

799
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 5: my boundaries are being invaded every five that's is.

800
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: Right there getting kurt violated. Yes, uh, I have a

801
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: small talk question. So so somebody brings up a movie,

802
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 2: they go have you seen?

803
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: And we'll pick them.

804
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 2: Have you seen Jumper and and and they clearly want

805
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: to talk about it. Okay, I haven't seen it, but

806
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: I know what it is.

807
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: Great.

808
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 4: You know, is it more rude for.

809
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: Me to go.

810
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: No, I've never seen it, to be honest, to tell

811
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: a lie and go sure, yeah, like, just go ahead

812
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: and tell me your thing you want to say about it.

813
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be lost, and I don't really

814
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 2: need to watch it.

815
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: Does that lie?

816
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 4: Okay?

817
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 5: Listen? It's first of all, lying is a huge part

818
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 5: of small talk. I'm okay with lying because when someone

819
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 5: said but not in this case. Okay, I know this

820
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 5: is getting complicated. But if someone goes, well, I.

821
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 2: Didn't do it, I didn't do I didn't do it right,

822
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I did lie, but I didn't tell that lie.

823
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: Okay, it's okay to lie.

824
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 5: For instance, someone let's say you're on an airplane, someone

825
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 5: puts pulls out a John Clancy book.

826
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: I said, I was in it? What you said you.

827
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 5: Were in the movie? I go, you were like, oh,

828
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 5: I was in it and you didn't even know in it.

829
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 5: I'm in it, okay?

830
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: And then I go home watch it again.

831
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 5: And then did that person say, like, well, part were you.

832
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: And yeah, you know anything about the.

833
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: Movie the guy I'm the main guy when he's teleporting

834
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: the main star.

835
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 5: Oh, so that's going to be Oh god, is he

836
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 5: unfolding the couch?

837
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 4: The plastic is still han It's could be hard to sleep.

838
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 5: Is that part of the kink that the plastics still

839
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 5: on it?

840
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 3: I'm a little uncomfortable.

841
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 4: I mean that's inappropriate.

842
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 2: Sorry, you were talking about a Tom Clancy novel. Yeah,

843
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: you were calling him John Clancy.

844
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 5: But when if someone pulls out a Tom Clancy novel,

845
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 5: Let's say you're on a plane and you see that,

846
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 5: you could say, oh, is that a good one? And

847
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 5: you would never read a Tom Clancy book in your life.

848
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 5: Oh I've been meaning to read that. You could see No,

849
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even learn his name to.

850
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you could.

851
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 5: You could tell that lie just because that kind of

852
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 5: greases the wheels of conversation.

853
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: And also we love if they're trying to read. Is

854
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: the expert they're trying to read?

855
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 5: No, I'm saying he's pulling out No, you would never

856
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 5: interrupt somebody on a plane reading and say is that good?

857
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 5: Like close to.

858
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: Their face, what's happening? Now?

859
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 4: How about now?

860
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: Exactly that and how do they know each other?

861
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 5: And quite honestly, you should never you two should never

862
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 5: engage with somebody on a plane, especially if it's a

863
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 5: person of the opposite set, because I have a feeling

864
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 5: like you'd be court martialed off that plane faster than

865
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 5: you can say, you know, small talk.

866
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: So gender is binary for you?

867
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, for sure for me personally. Is this one

868
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 5: of those clips you guys are going to release, just

869
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 5: like you know, separate to everything? Is this the kind

870
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 5: of shit?

871
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 7: No?

872
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 4: This is like been our clips.

873
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 5: This is like the Pelican brief where you guys you

874
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 5: know again, I didn't see that. I know you were

875
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 5: in it. One of you was in it.

876
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: I forget which one if? Okay?

877
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 5: For you, guys are trying to get me to say

878
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 5: stuff that you can then hold over me and and

879
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 5: then make me pay you this ridiculous sum of money

880
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 5: to not have you release this. So I don't release

881
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 5: that is what I'm amasking.

882
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 3: I'm change the name of the show Great Clips, Jessica.

883
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: So this book, it's not it's not actually a book yet,

884
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: bake it.

885
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: It's not a book yet.

886
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 5: We're writing a book for Malcolm Gladwell's company, Push can.

887
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 5: It's going to be an audible it's just just audio.

888
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 5: It's not going to be an actual book you can

889
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 5: hold in your hand. It's just going to be our voices.

890
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: Have you been in touch with Malcolm directly?

891
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 5: No, Unfortunately, Although I'm a huge fan.

892
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: I have, I have questions for him. If you get I.

893
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 5: Would absolutely never ever do it.

894
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: And in fact, like I'm curious about.

895
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 5: The deal's going to get blown as soon as they

896
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 5: hear this.

897
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: You're in his book already. Who is will he be

898
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 3: in yours? You're in Malcolm's.

899
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 5: Book, I am. I wasn't going to bring that up

900
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 5: because I don't want any kind of connection to him

901
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 5: through you.

902
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: Through you, I'll tell you what.

903
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: So if you when you finish the book, if you

904
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: finish the book and I'm pulling it out on a plane,

905
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: someone can start talking as long as I haven't opened

906
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: it yet.

907
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 3: That's right.

908
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 5: But you will never open this book because it's only audio, okay.

909
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 5: And you should never be playing something podcast, guys, you

910
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 5: should never be playing anything out loud on a plane.

911
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 5: I hope you don't do that in the attempt to

912
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 5: get attention.

913
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: No, I never want the attention to be on me,

914
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind if it's on the very good song

915
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: I discovered.

916
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, you're not going to want to do that.

917
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 3: You're never gonna want to do that.

918
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 5: Or like play a pot, you know, like I would

919
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 5: never especially your own podcast. You've never done that. Have

920
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 5: you played an episode of your own podcast? Like online

921
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 5: for a coffee or something?

922
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: Not one with a gust?

923
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 5: Okay, so like that's that's weird. That's that's a red

924
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 5: flag to people.

925
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: What was it? Like?

926
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: Uh, it was the deal making process, like for an

927
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: audio book?

928
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 4: Who did you? Who did you talk to a pushkin?

929
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 5: But was you going to try to I don't again,

930
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 5: like I'm not comfortable with sharing with you guys, like

931
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 5: any kind of like my professional contract.

932
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 4: Asking questions about your work.

933
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 3: Literally you don't.

934
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: You do not have to say the person's name, just

935
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: say their email, absolutely so I don't even care what

936
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: their name is. Just like tell me what kind of

937
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: what kind of email? Would you be wise to make

938
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: a deal like that?

939
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: Basic questions, curious about what you're doing a good advertisement

940
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: for the book to be To be honest.

941
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 5: I discuss it, can't discuss it if.

942
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm like thinking about buying a book about small talk,

943
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: and then I hear the author was asked a nice question.

944
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 5: Guys, though, it's like the money I'm going to make

945
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 5: on this deal, I'm going to end up paying you

946
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 5: pieces of ship to not release this podcast.

947
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: Like do you know like.

948
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 5: Everything's evaporating in front of me here in my cousin's

949
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 5: summerhouse in New Hampshire, You know, like I'm gonna be

950
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 5: sleeping on this asshole's floor just because you guys have

951
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 5: held so much ransom over me.

952
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 4: Your cousin's an asshole.

953
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: Here another clip. That's another clip. Oh god, I hope

954
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: nobody sends it to your cousin.

955
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 5: It's like La Confidential, another movie I've never seen and

956
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 5: I never will.

957
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 4: But that's why. By Hollywood, Hamburg