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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Emma Fitchett, back with us after a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: She has written a book called Journeys with Plant Spirits.

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Speaker 2: She's a plant spirit healer, shamanic teacher and author. Her

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Speaker 2: lifelong pursuit of self mastery and inner transformation is fueled

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Speaker 2: by an incredible fascination with the nature of reality. Emma,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. Have you been hi, George?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? I's been great. How are you all?

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Speaker 2: Is good? It's been a while. What you been doing

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Speaker 2: over the last few years?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, gosh, yeah, because time moves so quickly nowadays, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't sure whether it was because I was getting older,

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Speaker 4: but no, everybody seems to think that time is just

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Speaker 4: speeding up. And yeah, I have. Since I was on

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Speaker 4: the show, I've launched an open to news school here

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Speaker 4: in the UK, and so I've been just working on

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Speaker 4: that really and helping people to connect, to communicate with

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Speaker 4: and heal with plant spirits.

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Speaker 2: How did you get involved with plants in the first place?

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, it was a long time ago. I was

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Speaker 4: studying my master's degree in Italy and I met somebody

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Speaker 4: who worked with teacher plants, and so he worked with

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Speaker 4: an African plant called Eboga, and it's a route that

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Speaker 4: comes from from Gabon and it's psychoactives, but they usually

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Speaker 4: use it to help people with addictions. That they were

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Speaker 4: looking at people who are on a spirit spiritual path and.

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Speaker 3: What the effects of this would be.

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Speaker 4: And so I went to one of their ceremonies and

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Speaker 4: it just completely opened my psychic channels into the spirit world.

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Speaker 4: And so all of the concepts that I was learning

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Speaker 4: in my master's degree, or the tip that I was

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Speaker 4: studying Tibetan Budhism, all of these concepts were just much

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Speaker 4: more easier for me to understand. And I was having

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Speaker 4: direct experiences of what I was being taught, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: it just opened me up to a whole new world.

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Speaker 4: And I wanted to find out then what my own

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Speaker 4: plants from my own country had to say to me.

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Speaker 4: So then I just went into a big exploration of

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Speaker 4: that for many years.

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Speaker 2: What fascinates me about plants is it seems that there

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Speaker 2: seems to be remedies if we can find them of

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Speaker 2: almost every kind of ailment on this planet through plants.

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Speaker 2: It's truly remarkable, isn't that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they do say that there's a plant

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Speaker 4: for everything. Yeah, that's a kind of.

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Speaker 3: A cliche, but it's true.

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Speaker 4: And that could be whether it's physical, emotional, or psychological.

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Speaker 4: So every aspect offers is supported somewhere in nature because nature.

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Speaker 4: We are nature, and so we're part of it, we're

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Speaker 4: not separate from it, and so nature in its natural

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Speaker 4: state just wants to always come back to balance, even

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Speaker 4: when we've got invasive species in the garden. Actually those

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Speaker 4: invasive species are doing something to bring balance on some level.

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Speaker 4: They fill the gap that's actually been created by our

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Speaker 4: disruption of the biodiversity or whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: But nature always.

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Speaker 4: Wants to come back to balance, and so yeah, there

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Speaker 4: will be a remedy for anything in nature, but we

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Speaker 4: have to be careful not to use plants like allopathic medicines.

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Speaker 4: So you know, they do so much more than just

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Speaker 4: than just kind of suppressing or getting rid of our symptoms.

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Speaker 4: They actually heal and cure at an origin level. And

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure your listeners are well aware that

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Speaker 4: you know, our physical ailments are not just physical you know,

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Speaker 4: quite often there's an emotional drive underneath them, and so

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Speaker 3: To that level.

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Speaker 2: Back in the sixties and an incredible individual by the

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Speaker 2: name of Cleeve Baxter started doing experiments with plants and

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Speaker 2: have emotion, that they're self aware. Truly remarkable individual.

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Speaker 4: You've studied him, Yeah, of course, you know, you know,

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Speaker 4: in our western Western world and our Western mindset, this

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that our ancestors way back when, and especially

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Speaker 4: Cleieve Baxter, he did, an American guy. He did a

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Speaker 4: They are they feel emotions, or they at least express

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Speaker 4: individual plant level, which is absolutely amazing. They study that

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Speaker 4: through music of the plants at Damana University in Italy.

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Speaker 4: But then we've got this the consciousness of the species

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Speaker 4: a bigger level of their consciousness. So just like us,

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Speaker 4: we've got individual consciousness, but we're also aware that there's

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Speaker 4: the same in the plant world.

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Speaker 2: Does it make you think twice about eating a character

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Speaker 4: I get this question in a lot from my vegetarian

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Speaker 4: you know, their kind of they express when, as clear

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Speaker 4: Baxter pointed out, they express their.

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Speaker 3: Memory of people who have done them harm. You know,

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Speaker 4: Somebody coming in and cutting off a leaf, and then

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Speaker 4: the plant actually recognized that person, showed that when that

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Speaker 4: you know, a spike in the polygraph. However, plants don't

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have pain when somebody chumps into it, right.

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Speaker 4: No, No, I mean I think I think with vegetables,

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Speaker 2: No, No, where am I in the plant? Because it

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Speaker 4: for those of us with more kind of psychic awareness,

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Speaker 4: And so consciousness is not necessarily restricted to the body.

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Speaker 4: Even though the brain is like this receptor for consciousness,

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Speaker 4: actually our consciousness is very fluid. We're very attached to

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Speaker 4: our physical bodies, of course, but our and of course

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Speaker 4: emotions get trapped in our bodies. That's why we need

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Speaker 4: to do the healing. But actually consciousness is much more

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Speaker 4: that field of information gets imbued with when a plant's

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Speaker 4: being used for particular remedies et cetera, or was used

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Speaker 4: by the witches. That energy is imbued into the morphogenic

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Speaker 4: we've just separated things out to make it easier to

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Speaker 2: Are there some plants that are a little more receptive

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely so if there are plants that are trees

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Speaker 4: Artemisia vulgaris which you have in the States, and there

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, what about.

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Speaker 2: Like vegetables, em I mean, would you consider them thinking

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Speaker 2: How do we know which plants are more receptive than

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Speaker 4: Only through actually trying to communicate with or or meditating

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Speaker 2: Are there certain plants that you would sprinkle around your

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I work in different ways. So I have a diffuser,

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Speaker 4: Actually that makes a beautiful essential oil. And I'll put

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Speaker 4: leave all of your outdoor clothes and shoes in one space.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're kind of your your outdoor coach shouldn't

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Speaker 4: by by burning or diffusing plants such as mugwort or

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Speaker 2: My Clay Baxter was convinced that plants can communicate with

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, cross species communication is a well known phenomenon. You know,

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Speaker 3: So that the idea of cross.

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Speaker 4: Species communication is it's not something that's kind of woo

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Speaker 4: And so in terms of plants, absolutely we can communicate

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Speaker 4: So this idea of plants communicating with other species.

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Speaker 4: Sure, it's it's how they've survived. How Yeah, is it

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Speaker 4: done telepathectally, Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know, I wouldn't say

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Speaker 4: that plants communicate in words because when a plant perceives,

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Speaker 4: Baxter's work at some point, but when a plant perceives,

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Speaker 4: we kind of divide our senses up. Whereas the plants,

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Speaker 3: It's through feeling. So you get a.

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Speaker 4: Feeling from a plant or when we feel and we're

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Speaker 4: to know the plant by just being in its energy field.

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Speaker 2: It is truly remarkable, isn't it, Emma, I mean, it

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Speaker 4: Oh, you know, It's changed my life.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: That's all I've done since I communicated with that Iboga

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Speaker 3: And absolutely it's.

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Speaker 4: It's brought such magic into my life, a deep, deep,

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Speaker 4: deep sense of healing.

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Speaker 3: I've worked through a lot of my stuff in my life,

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Speaker 4: Childhood traumas and things like that and kind of past

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Speaker 4: life stuff. And cause a natural byproduct of working with

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Speaker 4: all that cleansing, etc. That just happens when you're working

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Speaker 4: with plants, and when you're taking and being with plants,

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Speaker 4: your psychic sensor is just it's a byproduct that you

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