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Speaker 2: Here we go, Kurt Hog joining us, a beat Brewers

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Speaker 2: Beat reporter from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, a regular on FT. Kurt,

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Speaker 2: Great to have you on before we begin our storyline expedition.

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Speaker 2: Did you have a conversation with the Great Pat Murphy?

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Speaker 1: So, I'm actually still in Wisconsin. I don't go down

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Speaker 1: of these years it'll work out. Although after the way

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it's doomed, it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: How much more of a storyline would it be The

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Speaker 3: Brewers win the World Series and Yuke is watching from above?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty sweet? Pretty sweet. I mean this this year

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Speaker 1: is gonna be It's gonna be strange, not seeing not

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Speaker 1: seeing Bob at the ballpark, not hearing his voice, you

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Speaker 1: Just just a strange, strange feeling to like have baseball here,

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Speaker 1: and you know what we have, you know, of of

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Speaker 3: So uh like.

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Speaker 1: Those guys will for sure be playing for you this year, especially,

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Speaker 1: you know, the ones that have been around for a while, Yelich,

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Speaker 1: Freddie Woody, Pat Murphy and him are obviously very close too.

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Speaker 1: So like if you if you've been in the Brewers

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Speaker 1: that's that's how special he was that his presence is

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Speaker 2: Still great, thank you so much for the time, and

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Speaker 2: uh yeah, we're all thinking about Bob youker throughout this season.

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Speaker 2: And hopefully you get out of the frigid, frigid temperatures

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Speaker 2: very soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah soon we got sun down there.

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Speaker 2: Fingers crossed, pretty dude, Arizona a little bit better this

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Speaker 2: time of year. Good to see you, dude. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, guys,