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Speaker 1: And welcome to Lake Kick is Live.

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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday at August sixteenth year of our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. But that little rainbow marshmellow was to

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Speaker 2: lucky charms this show, I promise you will be to

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Speaker 2: your college football appetite. We are jam packed, we are

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Speaker 2: high a top an overly social downtown Nashville, Tennessee. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna wait until little bit later in the show.

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Speaker 2: Wait till you hear what management is doing. Even as

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Speaker 2: we speak, Wait till you hear what management is doing.

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Speaker 2: Hey whispers, Intel scoop. All kinds of stuff happen in

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Speaker 2: fall camps, scrimmages. We've got some unfortunate injury updates. But

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Speaker 2: it happened, and so now we've got to talk about

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Speaker 2: how it's going to impact the landscape, both in conferences

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Speaker 2: and nationally.

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Speaker 1: The AP polls out, did you hear?

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Speaker 2: I finally got a copy for myself, and as you know,

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Speaker 2: the JP pole was released Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do a good.

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Speaker 2: Old fashioned comperative analysis tonight, JP versus AP?

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Speaker 1: Who's overrated? Who's underrated?

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Speaker 2: How do I explain my current stance on the Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame Fighting Irish Hey, you people are gonna need me

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Speaker 2: sooner than you think better.

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Speaker 1: Be kind to me. I'm going to be the only

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Speaker 1: one left in your corner.

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Speaker 2: Mark my words, watch and see what I tell you. Also,

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Speaker 2: we've got a loaded mail bag. You know, once upon

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Speaker 2: a time this would have been the day where we

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Speaker 2: released the Late Kick Extra podcast. But now we're in

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Speaker 2: more regular season mode and so we have a Tuesday

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Speaker 2: night Late Kick Live. That doesn't mean we can't go

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Speaker 2: into the mail bag. So I've got I think Jesse

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Speaker 2: four or five questions that we're going to answer tonight.

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Speaker 2: A rare August dive into the mail bag. Doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to be rare, though. You let me know you like it,

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Speaker 2: and we'll do it every week. Elkins, Arkansas, they are

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Speaker 2: tuned in tonight, Kansas City, the Missouri side tuned in easily,

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Speaker 2: South Carolina, Eagle River, Alaska. One week from tonight, mark

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Speaker 2: your calendars. We decided yesterday where the every given Saturday

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Speaker 2: the map on the wall, We've got the pen in

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Speaker 2: our week one destination. One week from tonight, we will

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Speaker 2: make that official. And if you don't know what I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about if you're new around here, and judging by

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Speaker 2: our numbers, a lot of you are. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for being a part of our family. We think

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Speaker 2: it's the only college football show you need. But if

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Speaker 2: you're new around here, we go to a game every week.

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Speaker 2: We take the crew out on the road, we take

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Speaker 2: cameras out on the road. We go to a different

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Speaker 2: game every week, and I know where we're going, and you,

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Speaker 2: one week from tonight will know as well. Like the video,

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Speaker 1: Let let's dive in.

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Speaker 2: We got some camp intell to talk about, some whispers,

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Speaker 2: some nuggets. We got some bad injuries happening all around

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Speaker 2: the country, some of which we've already talked about. And

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Speaker 2: then there's some new stuff that's popped up. But I

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Speaker 2: want to start with LSU. See LSU does not work

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Speaker 2: on my schedule. I have implored Brian Kelly, have your

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Speaker 2: scrimmages on Saturday. It fits nice and neat to our calendar.

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Speaker 1: Well, he won't do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm beginning to think he's a bad fit down there,

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Speaker 2: to be honest with you, but that's a joke in

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Speaker 2: all seriousness. They have a scrimmage tomorrow, as we're talking

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Speaker 2: farewell Miles Brennan. We got Jayden Daniels, we got Garrett Nusmeyer.

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Speaker 2: Those of you who have followed this thing or you've

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Speaker 2: But if you talk to folks around the LSU program,

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Speaker 1: Now. There are a couple of reasons for that.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday scrimmage is big, So make no mistake about that.

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Speaker 2: The Wednesday scrimmage is big. But the thing I keep

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Speaker 1: We've seen that happen many times before.

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Speaker 2: Just to get used to anytime there's the faintest whisper

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Speaker 2: Staffs know a guy's running solidly ahead of another one,

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Speaker 2: way to disprove that. And it's exactly what Iranda did.

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Speaker 2: Because when a situation arises where it would probably benefit

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Speaker 2: Dave Randa pull Gary Bohannon in his office or however

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Speaker 2: Gary Bohannon had time then to hit the portal and

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Speaker 1: It's an amazing story. We pull for Gary Buhannon.

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Speaker 2: But on the other side of that coin, I want

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Speaker 2: But anytime that you want to know who's real. You know,

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Speaker 2: payt state material. Dave Randa's paint state material. Not because

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Speaker 1: You weakening your roster?

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Speaker 2: But Miranda allowed it to happen for the betterment of

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Speaker 2: Let's go out to Southern cal got some injuries mounting

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Speaker 2: out there, and it's a few guys banged up. That's normal, man,

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Speaker 2: this is camp. Everything this time of year sounds like that.

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Speaker 2: No one's perfectly healthy. But Corey Foreman, who was the

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Speaker 2: highest rated player in California two cycles ago, it was

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Speaker 2: a big deal at the time when Clay Helton and

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Speaker 2: his staff kept him home.

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Speaker 1: Corey Foreman is banged up.

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Speaker 2: He hadn't practiced in several days out there, and as

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Speaker 2: you well know, as Lincoln Riley well knows, he's inherited

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Speaker 2: defensive roster depth that is at best incomplete, if not

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Speaker 2: outright inadequate. I'm talking about trying to compete on the

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Winning six games, they'll do that, but if you want

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Speaker 2: in year one. Foreman's been banged up. Shane Lee, the

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Speaker 1: I didn't see.

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Speaker 2: Today's practice report yet, but the USC injury situation, especially defensively,

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Speaker 2: the screen says. It says the over underwent total for

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Speaker 2: Southern cal is not seven and a half, it's nine

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Speaker 2: on that PAC twelve Championship odds being at plus.

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Speaker 1: Two ten, you need to know this stuff. USC.

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Speaker 2: It's time to compare the JP pole to the apepole.

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Speaker 2: Let me take a look at this question from Larry.

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Speaker 2: We often have the Notre Dame conundrum. Now, most of

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Speaker 1: But what does that mean.

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Speaker 1: And then you'll say, Josh, what say you?

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Speaker 2: And I'll say, if anything, maybe I'll bump them up

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Speaker 1: Why because if I've got one.

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Speaker 1: But you know that's not how that works.

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Speaker 2: don't sell Notre Dame. Notre Dame's not as bad as

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Speaker 1: This will happen. It happens all the time with Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame gets put in the playoff, they get blasted

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be proven right. If they go

435
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 2: lose thirty seven to twenty one to Ohio State in Columbus.

436
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,160
Speaker 2: That's what should happen. They shouldn't be neck and neck

437
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 2: with Ohio State. They also shouldn't get beat fifty two

438
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 2: to seven. But if it's somewhere healthfully in between that

439
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 2: we've already seen it. If you've hung around the show

440
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 2: long enough, you know how this is going to go.

441
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 2: This is why the jppole exists to bring everyone back

442
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 2: to reality. Next up, I didn't talk about this team

443
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: the other night a whole lot, but I should have.

444
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 2: The Mississippi State Bulldogs were rated number twenty in the

445
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 2: JP Pole. They are, of course not ranked at all

446
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 2: in the A people. That's to be expected. This is

447
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: a very This is a very forward thinking product we

448
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 2: have here with a JP pole, So Mississippi State goes unranked.

449
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 2: I don't even think they were among the teams that

450
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 2: got votes in the Apeopole.

451
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: That's okay.

452
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 2: I I released the JP pole and we did have

453
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 2: Mississippi State twentieth, and predictably, there was a lot of pushback.

454
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 1: I get it, it looks weird.

455
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 2: We even had Mississippi State rated one spot above Ole

456
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 2: miss which even I will admit surprised me. But you

457
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,439
Speaker 2: know how much money this model has made us in

458
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 2: the past, and famously there have been examples of me

459
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 2: manually overriding the model and just being totally hung out

460
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Speaker 2: to dry.

461
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: So I'm not doing that. I'm I'm gonna trust the

462
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Speaker 1: model here.

463
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 2: We developed it bias free for a reason, And I

464
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 2: dare any one of you to come at me and say,

465
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 2: you're just a pro Mississippi State homer. Yes, boy, how

466
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 2: many hoops to a mongst us hasn't called me that

467
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: a time or two. So I had a guy come

468
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: at me on Twitter dot com yesterday and he said

469
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: Mississippi State is not the twentieth best team in the country.

470
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 2: I said, what's your proof. He said, well, they're gonna

471
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 2: be an eight win team at best. They'll probably be

472
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: a seven win team at best. And I said, that

473
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: is interesting. Seven and six.

474
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 1: Huh.

475
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 2: Seven and six is proof that you can't be the

476
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Speaker 2: twentieth best team in the country.

477
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Speaker 1: Am I understanding you? Right, sir?

478
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: I had this conversation in my head. I'm lying about that.

479
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: He did say the first part, but I didn't go

480
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: back and forth with him. But here's what's interesting. Both

481
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 2: of those things can be true.

482
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Speaker 1: Believe it or not.

483
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 2: You are not what your record says you are all

484
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: the time in college football. That's why we called that

485
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,719
Speaker 2: phrase one of the biggest lies in our sport.

486
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 1: Casuals will try and.

487
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: Convince you you are what your record says you are.

488
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: An NFL broadcaster told me a win is a win,

489
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: and since it works on Sunday, it must work on Saturday. No, no,

490
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 2: and no, you know what time it is, paper pop time.

491
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 2: Let me explain to you how Mississippi State could reasonably

492
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: be the twentieth best team in the country and go

493
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: seven and six.

494
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: Here's how.

495
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 2: If we trust our model implicitly, then we trust that

496
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: everybody ranked higher than you or rated higher than you

497
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: in a model should beat you if everything just play

498
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 2: it out on paper?

499
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: Is it supposed to?

500
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: Mississippi State this year plays number one Alabama, number two Georgia,

501
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: number six Texas A, and m number nine Arkansas. And

502
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: then listen to this. Those are four games so far.

503
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,959
Speaker 2: Listen to the lineup right behind them. We got Mississippi

504
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 2: State twenty ole, MISSUS twenty one, Kentucky's twenty two, Auburn's

505
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: twenty three, and LSUS twenty five. They play all four

506
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 2: of them. Mississippi State plays two, four six. They play

507
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: eight teams that we have in the JP poll top

508
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 2: twenty five. There is a world where we are dead

509
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: on the money accurate about Mississippi State and they lose

510
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: six games.

511
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Speaker 1: There is a world where that happens. But of course

512
00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 1: you and.

513
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: I both know that that's not how the AP world works.

514
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: You are what your record says you are. There's no

515
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: way we can have a seven win team in the

516
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: top twenty.

517
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.

518
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: This is why I've always advocated for Vegas style metrics

519
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: to be worked into a ranking system. I don't care

520
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: what your record is against the spread. Anyone who thinks

521
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: I'm advocating for your record against the spread to be

522
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: taken into account when we're deciding Bowl lineups or we're

523
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: deciding the playoff.

524
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Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying that. What I am saying is.

525
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 2: Someone needs to be in the room that can decipher

526
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: what I just deciphered, that can tell you, hey, that

527
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: team's got five losses there, but four of the fly

528
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: came against teams that we've got rated in the top ten.

529
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 2: So reasonably anyone not rated in the top ten should

530
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: have lost those games. Why are we saying they can't

531
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: be a top twenty team just because they lost those games.

532
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: This is common sense.

533
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: I know it is, because even I can figure it out.

534
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 2: It's just that not enough people think that way. And

535
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: certainly our colleagues are steamed. Colleagues that take part in

536
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: the A people don't think that way. So in Mississippi State, Yeah,

537
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 2: I love the talent they return. I had an NFL

538
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: scout tell me it's the sneakiest good roster in America.

539
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 2: From a future NFL standpoint, there's a lot of Sunday

540
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 2: talent on that team that you're not paying attention to

541
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: because they're Mississippi State and you just don't expect a

542
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 2: lot from them. But that's your subconscience playing with your

543
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: own heart, because your subconscious is telling your heart don't

544
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 2: waste time on them because why not because of the

545
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 2: quality of their team, but because you know who they

546
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: have to play. Same things happening with the team I'm

547
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 2: about to talk about. It should not be factored into

548
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: the equation at all. Who you play should never impact

549
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: what your preseason ranking is. I don't care if you're

550
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: playing middle school teams or you're playing in.

551
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: The NFC West. It shouldn't be factored in, but it is.

552
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: People start ranking you based on how they think your

553
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: schedule will pan out, how many wins they think you'll get.

554
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: That's not how this is supposed to work.

555
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: While I'm in the SEC West, another team I had

556
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: a big discrepancy on me in the JP pole versus

557
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: the APE Pole. Is that number nine team on your

558
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 2: screen there, Arkansas Woo pig. Arkansas is an interesting case

559
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: study because you might think, you know, a lesser man

560
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: or woman might watch the show and think he's been

561
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: really pro Arkansas as of late, and I have. There's

562
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: a lot of bias here. I'm pro Arkansas. I'm not

563
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 2: going to go as far as say, this is an

564
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: Arkansas show. I did not grow up in Arkansas, but

565
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 2: we liked Arkansas. However, believe it or not, take it

566
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: or leave it, this is sort of an independent.

567
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: Number that our model spits out.

568
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: True enough, I had a hand in building this model

569
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: a long time ago, but that's the key.

570
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: A long time ago. My infatuation with Arkansas fairly recent.

571
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: What I'm trying to tell you is we didn't get

572
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: the model output and then me go and bump Arkansas

573
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 2: up to nine. The model set Arkansas's nine, we put

574
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: him at nine. So the model just flat out whites Arkansas.

575
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: I'm happy with what the model said because it made

576
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: me feel good. The model made me feel good, and

577
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: that's ultimately what we.

578
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: Have the model here for.

579
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: No, we don't actually have it for us to make

580
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 2: money and to override my emotions. Arkansas last year led

581
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: the nation and rushing you know that part. What I

582
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 2: want to suggest to you today is that even if,

583
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: even if it's a little bit easier to move the

584
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: ball on them this year, because the interior of that

585
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 2: defensive front isn't fortified as well as you want it

586
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 2: to be, I think they can override that, because I

587
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: think there's going to be way more potential explosivity in

588
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: their offense this year than anyone's ready to admit. Sam

589
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: Pittman sat there with us at SEC media Days. I

590
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 2: think it's okay to tell you this now because he

591
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: has since said it many times himself. But we were

592
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: talking off the record. I was sitting there talking to

593
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 2: Pittman and he was talking about his team. This was

594
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: after we spoke about his Fleetwood Mac obsession, and he said,

595
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 2: you know what's really coming on for us is our

596
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: wide receiver group. And that's a group you've added Jaden

597
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: Hazelwood for example. But Warren Thompson's a guy that's come

598
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: on strong for them. Matt Landers is a guy that

599
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: sounds like he's Sam Pittman's son.

600
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: He talks about him so much.

601
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: But he has made the point several times in Fall

602
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: Campton now to say, you know, that's a group that

603
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: I thought maybe a question for us in spring, and

604
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: now I watch it and think it's one of our strengths.

605
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: That's a good thing because a lot of the reasoning

606
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 2: behind Arkansas being ranked where they are in the AP

607
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: is you don't think they can replace Treylon Burgs, and

608
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: I'm telling you they can, if not individually, in the aggregate.

609
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: So I don't think they're going to be nearly as

610
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: hurting at the receiver position this year. Dare I say

611
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: you may even watch them a couple of games into

612
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: the season and say this is one of the better

613
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: receiver groups in the SECN Preview magazine would not tell

614
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: you that you got to be watching. You got to

615
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: have your ear to the ground. And so with that

616
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: in mind, along with the fact that we love the

617
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: intangibles there, love love the intangibles, and that matters in

618
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: this model. It very much matters. That's why we've got

619
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: Arkansas so much higher. But like we said with Mississippi State,

620
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 2: you look at the schedule, you know how tough it is.

621
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: This could be a year, It could be a world

622
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: where if.

623
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: They finished with a three or four loss season, and

624
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: yet we sit here with a number nine or ten

625
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: or eleven or twelve rating on him and feel totally

626
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: confident in it.

627
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: Why because they play A and M, they play Alabama.

628
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: They've got back to back trips too, Mississippi State and

629
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: then two Brigham Young no bye week. After the bye

630
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: week they go back out on the road at Auburn,

631
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: so they got old missed towards.

632
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: The end of the year.

633
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: My point there is you were not always what your

634
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: record says you are. I was listening to Pittman talk

635
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: to the Little Rock Quarterback Club last night. He said,

636
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: you know, if we had six wins, there's a lot

637
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: of room to go up. He's already trying to temper,

638
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: he said, but we won nine games last year, so

639
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: you know there are only three rungs we could go up.

640
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: There's a lot further we can fall than we can climb.

641
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: Sam Pittman, he may be a new head coach, but

642
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: that's some veteran. That is some veteran speaking circuit talking there.

643
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: Remind the locals, Uh, we could lose a couple of

644
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: games this year. Let's not start burning couches when it happens,

645
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: or if it happens. The last team I wanted to

646
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: touch on is the Fighting Jesse's of Penn State. You

647
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: might know them as the Nitney Lions. They are not ranked.

648
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: What are we doing right now? I'll tell you what

649
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: you're doing.

650
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: You're factoring way too much the last two years into

651
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: your mentality when it comes to what you think about

652
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: Penn State, we couldn't care less about it. I've got

653
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: them rated tenth. I am not building a model in

654
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Speaker 2: the rear view mirror. We are windshield thinkers when it

655
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Speaker 2: comes to what we think will happen. And for anyone,

656
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Speaker 2: and I know a lot of you have already come

657
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Speaker 2: at me like this, so I'm speaking out of experience.

658
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Speaker 2: For anyone who comes at me and says you can't

659
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Speaker 2: have them rated there because last year blank, or because

660
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Speaker 2: the last two years blank, I just I always ask you, guys,

661
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Speaker 2: can you please go find me the examples throughout history

662
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Speaker 2: any team where their year looked exactly like the year

663
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: before they were the exact same team, And those examples

664
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Speaker 2: are very, very few and far between. The point is

665
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: history tells you you almost never get a duplicate result,

666
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: So why would you disproportionately bake last year into your

667
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: overall thinking of what's going to happen this year? You're

668
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: automatically setting yourself up for failure and you don't even

669
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Speaker 2: realize it. We're trying to figure out what Penn State

670
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: is and will be, not what they were. So I'll

671
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: tell you what the model's picking up on very quickly,

672
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: The model does not have any emotion in its thinking

673
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: towards Sean Clifford. All it thinks about with Sean Clifford

674
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: is he's probably getting AARP mail and he's a good quarterback.

675
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: It's not a great quarterback. The model probably looks at

676
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: him as a B level quarterback. There aren't a lot

677
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: of B or better quarterbacks in college football. Contrary to

678
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: popular belief, there are. I know, you got a bunch

679
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: of four and five stars every year. The reality is

680
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: you got far fewer that end up being B level

681
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: or better options. What happened last year is what another

682
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: person tried to throw on my face today. They said,

683
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Speaker 2: didn't you have Penn State rated top ten in the

684
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Speaker 2: preseason last year?

685
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Speaker 1: We sure did? And what said, look at their record

686
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Speaker 1: from last year.

687
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Speaker 2: I am, But here's the thing. We didn't have Penn

688
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: State raided in the top ten at the end of

689
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Speaker 2: the year.

690
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Speaker 1: Do you know why?

691
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Speaker 2: Because the roster had become beat to death. This rating

692
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: is a today rating. So as Sean Clifford, god forbid,

693
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Speaker 2: goes down in Week one like he did at Iowa

694
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Speaker 2: last year, when, by the way, they were undefeated top

695
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Speaker 2: ten at the time, then we will adjust on the fly.

696
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Speaker 2: But I feel very good about where we had them

697
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Speaker 2: rated last year before injury derailed them. I feel very

698
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Speaker 2: good about where we have them this year. Also, I

699
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Speaker 2: want you to think about the last two years. This

700
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Speaker 2: is where a lot of people cannot get past this

701
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Speaker 2: with Penn State. And I guess the difference between the

702
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 2: AP thinking and the JP thinking is our model doesn't care.

703
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: Our model looks at the last two years and sees

704
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Speaker 2: eleven and eleven total combined record. One of the years

705
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Speaker 2: was the COVID year, obviously, so it doesn't add up mathematically.

706
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Speaker 2: Our model looks and it can reasonably explain away both

707
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Speaker 2: of those subpar performances. I know, once emotion enters the room,

708
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: you start saying things like, well, that's tough, they just

709
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Speaker 2: got to get the job done, or yeah, one year

710
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Speaker 2: it could be an exception, but two years is a trend.

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Speaker 1: That's not real. It's what I'm saying that you didn't

712
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Speaker 1: back that up.

713
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Speaker 2: It doesn't have any logic founded in data. That's just

714
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Speaker 2: nonsense speak. Or even if you're right, you didn't back

715
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Speaker 2: it up properly. The model is looking at Penn State

716
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Speaker 2: quite literally, and they're saying, what's all the noise over there.

717
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: Why are they not ranked?

718
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Speaker 2: This is one of the top ten or twelve teams

719
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Speaker 2: in the country, so that's why they're where they are now.

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Speaker 2: They open the season with two games out of the

721
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Speaker 2: first three weeks on the road that are going to

722
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Speaker 2: be very difficult for them.

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Speaker 1: So who knows.

724
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Speaker 2: Hey, if we're going to be wrong about Penn State,

725
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: we'll find out very early. That'll be an.

726
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Speaker 1: Added treat for you. I guess all right, let's roll on.

727
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Speaker 2: Should I tell the management story? I think it's deep

728
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: enough in the show. I should tell the management story.

729
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: You know how, we have a very very up and

730
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Speaker 2: down love hate relationship around here with management. Here's the

731
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Speaker 2: reason I am so freely talking about them right now.

732
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Speaker 2: Management is in town, and you know what they did.

733
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Speaker 2: They scheduled a party company wide, right smack dab in

734
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Speaker 2: the middle of our show.

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Speaker 1: So there are a couple of blocks away.

736
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Speaker 2: Doing who knows what, getting into who knows what, And

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Speaker 2: here we are dutifully coming to you live from High

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Speaker 2: A Top downtown Nashville, Tennessee and High A Top Management,

739
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Speaker 2: as it turns out, And so on one hand, they've

740
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Speaker 2: come through for us. On the other hand, I'm halfway

741
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Speaker 2: confident they don't even know what time the show airs.

742
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: But that's okay, because, as it turns out, not everyone

743
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Speaker 2: on this crew happens to be what you would call

744
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Speaker 2: a p person.

745
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: There's a mirror over here. That's why I'm looking that way.

746
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: And so we're cool. They're cool. Everyone's cool. Let's talk

747
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: about some Q and A. Let's get into the mail bag.

748
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: This is going to be really good. I want to

749
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: go kind of rapid fire here. But this question about

750
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: Clemson is one that we've gotten a version of a lot.

751
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: Listen to this.

752
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: If Clemson has another ten and two season, is it

753
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: considered a failure for Dabos Swinny? What does he need

754
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: to do this year to get everyone believing in him again?

755
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: From LaBelle Florida.

756
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: I never stopped believing in Dabos twenty.

757
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: Some of you may have, so I don't know if

758
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm in the majority or minority.

759
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 2: I cannot imagine after one slightly down year everyone's sold

760
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: on Dabos twenty. If you did, it couldn't be just

761
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: for football reasons, I'll put it that way. So I

762
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: do know that there are some people out there who

763
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: are skeptical I've spoken to some coaches, mainly the ones

764
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Speaker 2: who aren't in the ACC, who are skeptical because they

765
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: look and they see the attrition, and they see the

766
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: performance at quarterback last year, and they know that he

767
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: lost his coordinators.

768
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Speaker 1: And my whole point with Clemson.

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Speaker 2: Regardless of what happens this year, I happen to think

770
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Speaker 2: they'll be good this year. Okay, that's I'm kind of

771
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: on the record with that already.

772
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: I think they'll be good. I think they'll be right

773
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: there in the ACC Championship game.

774
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: That's what I think about them. But the question is,

775
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: what if they lose two games. Well, it's not the

776
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: end of the world if you lose two games, would

777
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: be my immediate response. The follow up to that is,

778
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: there's miss Hayes collectively that has set in in the

779
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: college football public when it comes to Clemson. My advice

780
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: is this is applicable to Clemson fans too. Quite frankly,

781
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: don't let five minutes overtake fifty years worth of bent

782
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: up or bent up historical logic.

783
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: You've learned things.

784
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: History has taught you things about what historically should be

785
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: the norm at Clemson. It's not what you've seen over

786
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: the past five or six years, history has told you

787
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 2: that's the outlier, and yet now it's come the expected norm.

788
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: And so we've got questions right now, what if they

789
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 2: do fill in the blank, And then in that blank

790
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: it says ten wins. Ten wins would have been one

791
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: of the best seasons in program history before this run started.

792
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: And now we're asking questions like, is it a failure?

793
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: Do we give up on the guy? Do we just

794
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 2: we sell him down the river? Is it time for

795
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 2: next man up? It's a little hyperbolic, not far away

796
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: from reality though. No, of course you don't what reality is.

797
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: I know not everyone wants to live on this planet.

798
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: But what reality is is they should struggle.

799
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Speaker 1: It should be hard to replace those coordinators.

800
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: You don't get to tell me for years how stable

801
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: that coaching staff is and how integral a role they

802
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: play in your success, and then lose them and say, oh,

803
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: no big deal, we'll replace them. No, it's either one

804
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: or the other. You los a generational defensive coordinator in

805
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: Brint Venables. It's not just plug and play, or it

806
00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: shouldn't be.

807
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: Now.

808
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: If it is, then that's a testament to Dabo Swinny.

809
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: He's built a rock solid culture up there. It's one

810
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: of the best programs in America. So I guess when

811
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: you tell me people are giving up on Dabos swinny,

812
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: I don't think you know much about daboswenty firstly, or

813
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: if you did know something, maybe you've forgotten over the

814
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: course of a few months. The second thing is it

815
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: used to be that even some of the greatest coaches

816
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: in history in another generation were given time to have

817
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: multiple years of struggle. You know, Bear Bryant at Alabama

818
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: is one of the best of all time. Go check

819
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: out the latter sixties, early seventies with Bryant.

820
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: Especially the late sixties. Go check out the late sixties.

821
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 2: They got jilted out of a national championship in sixty six,

822
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: But then look at.

823
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Speaker 1: The subsequent years. What would happen if that were in

824
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two.

825
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: Would Bryant have even been afforded the ability to go

826
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: on the run he went on in the seventies, or

827
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Speaker 2: would college football collectively have said games passed him by,

828
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: He's lost it. You're talking about a couple of years where,

829
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: if you applied the modern standards, Bama would be struggling

830
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: to make a Bowl.

831
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Speaker 1: But then he got it right.

832
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: There was this thing called the wishbone that came along too,

833
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: played a pretty big role, and all of a sudden,

834
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 2: I think he lost. Like he lost less than half

835
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: a dozen conference games in the entire decade of the

836
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: seventies or something like that.

837
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Speaker 1: There's some absurd stats.

838
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: But my point is with Dabos twenty, it used to

839
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: be that last year's not even a blip on the

840
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: radar screen. Last year's looked at as a good year

841
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: if you applied past generations standards. But there are untenable

842
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: standards applied today. Why because you get paid a lot

843
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: of money, which of course doesn't change what reality is.

844
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: But no one wants to have that conversation. So to

845
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: answer the question, no, I won't be giving up on him.

846
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: If they win ten games this year, I would call

847
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: it a good year. Even by Clemson standards, I would

848
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: call it a good year. They're watching us in Gaythersburg,

849
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: Maryland tonight. They're watching us in Charlotte, North Carolina. They

850
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: are watching us in Mansfield, Ohio. We thank all of

851
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: you for that. We got six hundred and seventy three

852
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: likes right now. We got over seventeen hundred watching live.

853
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: I would like us to have a thousand click that

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00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: little thumbs up. That's all I want. Well, that and

855
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: for you to subscribe to the channel. Let's continue here.

856
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: Really good question. This kind of goes back to what

857
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 2: we spoke about a couple of weeks ago. Here's the question,

858
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: do school send out uncommitable offers? If not, why does

859
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: everyone think that? From Montclair, New Jersey. The answer is yes,

860
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: schools do, I guess not send out uncommittable offers because

861
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,959
Speaker 2: that makes it tangible. An uncommittable offer or a non

862
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 2: committable offer. It's sort of like more fabled, but it's

863
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: real in college football. And you got to get into

864
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: the weeds of recruiting a little bit to even know

865
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Speaker 2: what that means. But what it is is, given the

866
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Speaker 2: current structure of college football recruiting, for those of you

867
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Speaker 2: who don't really follow.

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Speaker 1: It, here's how it works. You get scared that.

869
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Speaker 2: You're either going to lose out on kids or someone

870
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: got the jump on you on a kid. And so

871
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: a lot of times, especially when they're sophomores or juniors,

872
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: what some program not all of them, what some programs

873
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: will do is they'll send a kid an offer. Okay,

874
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: they're banking on that kid not being ready to commit

875
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: right that moment, because what that kid doesn't know sometimes

876
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: is they've sent you a piece of paper.

877
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: They've it says you got an offer.

878
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: But really, in their war room, they got a board

879
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: up here, and your name is probably eighth on their

880
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 2: defensive tackle recruiting depth chart.

881
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: In other words, you don't really have the.

882
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: Ability to commit to them today. How does that work

883
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 2: They sent you an offer, Well, it's called an uncommittable offer.

884
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: This is a practice that's frowned upon by some it

885
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: is it is widely practiced by others. And there was

886
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: a conversation that was had about this very issue at

887
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: the recruiting and personnel symposium that I took part in

888
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: in Nashville a couple of weeks ago. Some of the

889
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: biggest names in college football were in town, and it

890
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: was off the record, so I can share what I

891
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: can share with you, But there was a lot of

892
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: talk about this. There were some folks, there were some

893
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: men and women who work in recruiting and personnel departments

894
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: who said, we don't ever do this. There were some

895
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: others who said, we do it.

896
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: We do it. Because we think we have to do it.

897
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: If it were illegal, or if everyone else stopped doing it,

898
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: we'd stop doing it. They haveing a leadership stance there

899
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 2: by the way. So anyway, there were two proposals. Now

900
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: that we've admitted this is going on, there were two

901
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 2: proposals that I think, if they were combined, would rightify

902
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: a lot of this.

903
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: The first one is I love.

904
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 2: The idea of shifting to the college Olympic model, which

905
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: is where you cannot be visiting anyone or getting offers

906
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: until September of your junior year in high school. I'll

907
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: tell you why that's important in a second. And the

908
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: other part is make an offer database. It's public. Everyone

909
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: can see it. The kid can see it, other coaches

910
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: can see it. I would selfishly love for the media

911
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: and public.

912
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: To be able to see it.

913
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: But even if the latter parties can't make it public,

914
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: kind of like the transfer portal, everybody in the football

915
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: industry can see the transfer portal, and you're either in

916
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: the portal or you're not.

917
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:14,479
Speaker 1: In the portal.

918
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: Where I would love for offers to work the same way.

919
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: I either have an offer or I don't have an offer.

920
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: But here's the rule.

921
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: Hypothetically, if that were to be the case, the.

922
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: Rule would be, if you extend me an offer, there

923
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: is no uncommittable committable there is none of that. If

924
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: you're telling me I've got an offer, I can check

925
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: that database. Boom, there it is. It was loaded twenty

926
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: minutes ago. I can accept it right now. So you're

927
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: on the hook. If you offer me, you've got to

928
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: be ready to accept my commitment. Now where could that

929
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: be a mess? Well, it could obviously be a mess

930
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: because if I were to offer a bunch of receivers

931
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: and all the receivers took the offer, that's not balancing

932
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: my recruiting profile. So yes, I do understand there would

933
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: have to be conditions for a certain maximum amount per position.

934
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: There would have to be some checks and balances in there.

935
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: I get that, But for broad strokes purposes, I would

936
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: love to see that national database.

937
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: It would slow everything down.

938
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: Number one, If we're using the Olympic model, no one

939
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: is even getting offers or going on official visits until

940
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: their junior year starts, so there's no more offering freshman

941
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: and sophomores.

942
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: No one wants to do that anyway, They just do

943
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: it because they think they have to to stay out

944
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: of the curb. Slows it down.

945
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 2: That way, coaching staffs aren't having to recruit four classes simultaneous.

946
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: That helps them, And.

947
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 2: Number two, it greatly reduces the amount of overall early

948
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: offers that go out because you're scared as a coaching

949
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: staff that if I offer this kid early in his

950
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: junior year, I don't have junior or senior tape on him.

951
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: So unless I'm ultra sure that he's just a slam dunk,

952
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 2: I better hold off on offering him. Everybody else will too,

953
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: and so I think.

954
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: It would reckedify a lot of these problems.

955
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: I don't know how realistic it is to get that

956
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: put in place, but I would love that. A lot

957
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: of folks at that symposium, not all of them, but

958
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 2: a lot of them did love that. Next question, please,

959
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: where are we at? We at seven seventy three? Every

960
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 2: time I ask for likes, about one hundred more pop up.

961
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: I'll ask again, like the video Please Ryan is next up?

962
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: He said, if the season was just turned on its

963
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: head and the usuals were left out of the playoffs,

964
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: who are your teams that could make it? From Funston, Georgia? Okay,

965
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: The rule here is the usual crowd is gone. There

966
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: is no Bama, there is no Ohio State.

967
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: They're gone, gone gone. Who's making it instead?

968
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: I think the wildest scenario because I think Georgia should

969
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: be out of this too, because Georgia has been enough

970
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 2: of the main state. So if the usuals are out,

971
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: it's got to be Texas A and M. Right, Texas

972
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 2: A and M and the SEC. I think that would

973
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: be a wild story. Imagine if Jimbo Fisher was the

974
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: reason why not only Bama didn't make it, but then

975
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher ended up being the coach that punches his

976
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: ticket another first time playoff participant there.

977
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: I think that would be interesting.

978
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: The odds right now for A and M to win

979
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 2: the SEC championship or plus sixteen hundred. I think if

980
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: a team were to come out of the SEC and

981
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: it's not Bama or Georgia at the moment, I would

982
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 2: lean Texas A and M.

983
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: The next team.

984
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: That I think would be really interesting is the team

985
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: A and M plays in Week three, and that's Miami.

986
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: If Clemson's not in it, they're kind of a usual,

987
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 2: so we pushed them off to the side. If they're

988
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,479
Speaker 2: not in it. What if it's Miami. What if Tyler

989
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: van Dyk is that guy. What if Mario Christabaul just

990
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: inherited the exact mix he needed to in year one,

991
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 2: and then he infused just the right amount of energy

992
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: and momentum in year one and they make the playoff

993
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: schedule's kind of workable. Clemson's an overwhelming favorite to win

994
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: this conference, but Miami plays them towards the end of

995
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: the regular season. They may get them again in the

996
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: ACC Championship game. Maybe Clemson's not there, who knows, But

997
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: I think if anyone were to come out of the ACC,

998
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: if we combined the most realistic team with the one

999
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: that would turn everything upside down, I would say Miami

1000
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: is that team. Let's go to the Pac twelve, and

1001
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 2: this one's easy. It's USC.

1002
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: Now.

1003
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: USC is not as usual, but USC from an odds perspective,

1004
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 2: they're the co favorite right now to win the Pac twelve.

1005
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: Both they and Utah are at plus two ten to

1006
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 2: win the Pac twelve. I cannot overstate enough the amount

1007
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: of slurping that would happen on the national level if

1008
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: Southern Cal ever makes the playoff. You cannot imagine three

1009
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: weeks of that of national media types from coast to

1010
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: coast just slurping USC. And I can't promise that we

1011
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't participate full disclosure. I'd be excited about it, but

1012
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 2: we wouldn't go as overboard then go full over the cliff.

1013
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: It would be Thelma and Louise, only it would be

1014
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 2: national sports writers in the front seat, whoom straight off

1015
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: the cliff, singing fight on all the way down to

1016
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: the bottom of the canyon. USC would turn things on

1017
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: the collective ear if they were to make the playoff.

1018
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 2: And lastly, you know what, why not let's put James

1019
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: Franklin and Penn State in the playoff.

1020
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: If Ohio State's not.

1021
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: Gonna make it, then if it's not gonna be Michigan,

1022
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: it's Penn State.

1023
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: Right.

1024
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: I know the odds would say that Wisconsin has the

1025
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: third best odds to win the Big Ten. I think

1026
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 2: Penn State's a better team, although we have Wisconsin highly

1027
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: ranked in the JP Pole but not quite as high

1028
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: as Penn State. I think if we saw a thirty

1029
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: six year old Shawan Clifford at quarterback leading the Nitney

1030
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: Lions into a first round playoff game, I think it

1031
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 2: would be a spectacular sight. I absolutely think if James

1032
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: Franklin and Penn State made the playoff, it would qualify

1033
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 2: as a wild scenario because no one can get past

1034
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 2: Ohio State in their mind, and if they can, it's

1035
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: Michigan doing it. But what if Penn State ends up

1036
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 2: doing it? So and if well, I guess this could

1037
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: never happen. I don't know what kind of odds you

1038
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: would have to give me on this playoff. But imagine

1039
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: if we were to hit the fast forward button.

1040
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: We we we we we boom, and we.

1041
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: Hit play, and it's Selection Sunday, and we're looking at

1042
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: A and m Miami USC, Penn State.

1043
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: Paraday competitive ballots. Who what has happened in that world?

1044
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: By the way, what has happened to Ohio State? Famine? Plague?

1045
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: Where did they go? What happened to Alabama? Where are you? Georgia?

1046
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: Nowhere to be found? Clemson.

1047
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 2: I don't know how that would happen other than just

1048
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: people take a sabbatical from the sport for a year.

1049
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, you give me A and m Miami USC

1050
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: Penn State. If even one of them makes it in,

1051
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: I think that would be a pretty wild scenario. Speaking

1052
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 2: of national Championships. We had one last question here from Mark,

1053
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: and I don't know if every bit of you saw

1054
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 2: this news yesterday, so maybe I'm breaking it for you.

1055
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: Mark asked, Well, Mark said, I saw Atlanta and Miami

1056
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: are getting National title games. What's your favorite venue to

1057
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: host the National title game?

1058
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: Mark?

1059
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm glad you came to me because once upon a

1060
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: time I dreamed of being able to answer this question,

1061
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: and now I can. I've been to like every one

1062
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: of them. I've been to several National Championship games now.

1063
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 2: It never gets old to say that. Boy, it makes

1064
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: me feel good to say it. So if you miss

1065
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: the news, Atlanta is going to host the twenty twenty

1066
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 2: five game. In fact, I think the next two years

1067
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: we're going to LA for this season, and then we're

1068
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 2: going to Houston next year, and then in twenty twenty

1069
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: five it's Atlanta, and then in twenty twenty six it's Miami.

1070
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: If you're looking on the screen right now on YouTube,

1071
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: you see where we've been so far, Tampa, Atlanta, Santa Clara,

1072
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: New Orleans, Miami, Indianapolis. This year it's Inglewood, LA, Houston,

1073
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: next year Atlanta and Miami. I think I was at

1074
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: every one of those. So yeah, I was at everyone.

1075
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: So here's what I think about it.

1076
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: You would think that because I grew up an hour

1077
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: south of Atlanta, I I'm really going to stand on

1078
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 2: a table for Atlanta. I'm not anti Atlanta. These don't

1079
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: misunderstand me. But I have got a favorite city. I

1080
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: got a favorite National championship city, and.

1081
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: You know where it is.

1082
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: It's New Orleans, Louisiana. The Superdome, whatever it's sponsored by

1083
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: at the moment, is my favorite city to host a

1084
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: National Championship game. I have spoken glowingly of the city

1085
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 2: of New Orleans before. It's a building that was built

1086
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy one, and yet I like it more

1087
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: than some of the more modern facilities.

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00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: It is massive.

1089
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: Superdome is it's appropriately named. I know a lot of

1090
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: you have been there. The Superdome is just such a

1091
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: huge building. It feels like you could put these other

1092
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: places in it. That's the first thing. The second thing

1093
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: is the city of New Orleans is taylor made to

1094
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 2: be an event city. They really embrace their events. I've

1095
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: never been there for a Super Bowl, but I imagine

1096
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: they do a really good job on the Super Bowl

1097
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: because they get them all the time, but final fours

1098
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: National Championship games. They've had WrestleMania down there. I think

1099
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 2: a couple of times. They are event city. When we've

1100
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 2: gone to some of these cities that shan't be named,

1101
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: you could not have even known the game was taking

1102
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: place there. That's not New Orleans. Every street corner is decorated.

1103
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 2: All the city buses have the sidings put on them,

1104
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: every lamp post has a National Championship flag hanging from it,

1105
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: and everybody in the community stops what they're doing and

1106
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: they play a role in hosting the game. It makes

1107
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 2: all the difference in the world. Quite frankly, they treat

1108
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: us a lot better than we should be treated. I

1109
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: am a believer that we should not get police escorts

1110
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: to games as the media. It always makes me feel

1111
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: like I need to cover my face out of shame.

1112
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: But we do get it. So New Orleans number one.

1113
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: Indianapolis, surprisingly to me at least, is on this list,

1114
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: and we just came from Indy.

1115
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 1: This is not recency.

1116
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: Biased, though, I ignorantly, because I had not ever covered an

1117
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: event in Indianapolis, went into the National Championship Game this

1118
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 2: past January thinking well, this is gonna blow.

1119
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: I was in Miami last week.

1120
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: I gotta go to Steve Wolffong's backyard and freeze for

1121
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: a week. No, I never had to go outside, actually,

1122
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: because the entire downtown is connected, even the stadium. You

1123
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: just walk underground you go to the stadium. I mean,

1124
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: you never have to go outside if you don't want to.

1125
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, some of you went out there

1126
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: to rip a sig every now and then. But I

1127
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 2: don't smoke, so I didn't have to go outside. But

1128
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: Indianapolis is kind of like New Orleans. They're an event city,

1129
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: which I didn't know. It's even part of the nickname there,

1130
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: And so I learned all about Indianapolis in my three

1131
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: or four days there. They did such a good job,

1132
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: and they also were aware that they had to win

1133
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: some people over because they were keenly aware. A bunch

1134
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: of these folks just covered a semi final game on

1135
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: a beach. Now we're bringing them to the dead of

1136
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: winter in central Indiana. We got to go above and beyond,

1137
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 2: and they did.

1138
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: They did.

1139
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 2: I was so happy to see the NFL combine shows

1140
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 2: to stay there.

1141
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: They should.

1142
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: Some of those general managers and scouts would have rioted

1143
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: if you took it out of Indianapolis. Curious where I'm

1144
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: going to get pushed back. If Herbstreet's watching, he will

1145
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: probably get into comment section, go all caps and say

1146
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: what about the Rose Bowl?

1147
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: Who? What gives you the right? Who do you think

1148
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: you are? The Rose Bowl should.

1149
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: Be where every college football game from now until eternity

1150
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: has played with any consequence. I like the Rose Bowl.

1151
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: I do like it is very picturesque. I've been out there.

1152
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 2: I was out there for the Bama Texas title game.

1153
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: I appreciate the Rose bul Trust me. Even though I

1154
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: grew up in the South, I have supreme appreciation for

1155
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl. I'm just saying I think there are

1156
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: other places that do a really good job too.

1157
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: So if you.

1158
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: Were to wake up tomorrow morning and you and I

1159
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: were to pull up our eye, Josh or your eye,

1160
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 2: whatever your name is, and we saw that Herbie gets

1161
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: his way, college football revolves around Pasadena.

1162
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: At least in the postseason, I wouldn't. I wouldn't fire

1163
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: off a mad tweet or anything. But I like New Orleans,

1164
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: Sue me. I like New Orleans.

1165
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: I like Miami, and I'm a decent fan of Atlanta. Look,

1166
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: my trepidation with Atlanta says, I love the Georgia Dome,

1167
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: and they blew the thing up and you couldn't even

1168
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: say it because a Marta bucks a bus parked in

1169
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 2: front of the camera.

1170
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: I love the Georgia Dome, Okay. I was a Georgia

1171
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: Dome guy.

1172
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: So when they took it away from me, they just

1173
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: killed her right in front of me behind the Marta bus.

1174
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: I look at Mercedes Benz Stadium, and I think that structurally,

1175
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: the fact that you can make metal and steel look

1176
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 2: like origami is wonderful, but it doesn't have the soul

1177
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: of the Georgia Dome inside for.

1178
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: Me, okay, So I hold it against that building.

1179
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: The Superdome has got echoes of Muhammad Ali fights and

1180
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: Super Bowls and wrestle Manias in final fours. I mean

1181
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, Dude, how many times can I watch highlights

1182
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 2: of him playing down in the Superdome. Stuff has happened there,

1183
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: and I've gotten to cover games there, so I love it.

1184
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: Place as old as dirt. I love it, and they've

1185
00:55:54,640 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 2: kept it renovated enough. The Rose Bowl is among these locations.

1186
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 2: It does not for me stand infinitely above and beyond. However,

1187
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: I am well aware you don't get sunsets in Atlanta

1188
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: or New Orleans indoors like you do over the San

1189
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 2: Gabriels at five pm local time when everyone else on

1190
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: the East Coast is sitting.

1191
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: There already in the dark. I get it.

1192
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm not against it, but I am here to tell

1193
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 2: you Pasadena does not have a national championship game between

1194
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: now in twenty twenty five.

1195
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to suck it up.

1196
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to bite the old wooden spoon and

1197
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: come with me if you will to Inglewood, come with me,

1198
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: one and all to Houston. I'm a fan of Miami

1199
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: as well. Let me put that on there. I'm a

1200
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 2: fan of Miami as well. Any excuse I have to

1201
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 2: spend New Years in South Florida. I am on the

1202
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: record above and beyond excited about that too. So like

1203
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm a New Orleans guy, that's where my loyalty.

1204
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: Lies when it comes to postseason. But truthfully, I'll go

1205
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: anywhere because I grew up. I mean about doing that anyway.

1206
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,360
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1209
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1210
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1212
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for director calling for producer Jesse.

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Speaker 2: I'm Josh Pate. Have yourselves a great rest of your evening.

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Speaker 2: care and God bless