WEBVTT - A Birthday BASHing: RHOA Recap with Dustin, Claudia & Blue 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.760 Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.239 I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.520 favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.360 and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:23.040 Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.680 Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.680 addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:32.960 scripted as well. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:37.760 Claudia, Dustin and Blue. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.800 The time has come for us to get into the 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.960 latest episode of the Real Housewives of Atlanta. As we 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:48.360 all know, this is episode fifteen of season seventeen, and 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.479 it's a continuation of what happened last week, which was 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:57.280 the biggest bomb of the season, Shemia versus four show, which, 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:03.880 by the way, I have never seen a moment on 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.119 a reality show trend for a week. 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:11.880 Blue to loose mouth. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.280 Manuela, if you can pronounce. 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:37.240 So blue, It has trended all week. Okay, It's something 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:42.759 that a lot of people just are talking about even today, 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:49.120 right even last night when Chemist Chef responded to Dustin's commentary, 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:51.400 which we'll get to that in a second. 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.360 So I want to hear Dustin's thoughts on her response, but. 0:01:55.880 --> 0:02:01.960 Nonetheless, the ladies are at the nightclub celebrating Phagor's birthday. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:07.400 Porsche is there, She's having a good time, Angela Pinky, 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:12.000 Kim Michelle's on the ones and twos. She's singing Vsop. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:14.720 Yes, I love her voice. 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:16.640 I'm so happy she's sang that song. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:24.200 Yeah, and even offering up to play Juice a Dora 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.919 song Delulu right like Kim. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.160 Michelle was in her element at the club. All the 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:30.160 girls are having fun. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.720 We do see Samia and Kelly talk about the aftermath 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:40.960 of what happened and how Samia said that she always 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.000 cares about other people's feelings opposed to her own. 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.000 She also said that she's. 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:50.720 Cool on Porsche and that Porscha would never meet another 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.320 friend like her. They didn't they they didn't get dressed, 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.560 go to the club, and the moment they walked in, 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.440 Porscha grabs her bag and leave. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:01.960 Claudia started with you. 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:07.000 Do you think Portia did the right thing by removing 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:13.239 herself from a situation when hours before that her and 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.760 s Miya got into it over their mothers. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.320 Probably, if you feel like you might get violent and 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.200 fight for your sixth time on this show. 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:20.720 You know what I mean. 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.480 You don't want to do that. So if you feel 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.280 like you have that in you, and she is trying 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.480 to make an effort this season to get away from 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:33.560 some that I think, but yeah, yeah, if you feel 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:35.520 like you're gonna lose control, it's gonna be too triggering out. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.720 I've seen nothing romans removing and stell from a situation. 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.200 It sucks for when you're trying to have a reality 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:44.119 show together though, because half the cast left with her, 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:49.880 so you know, but I get it, and uh, I 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:51.600 would probably want to be around someone I just had 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.600 a really uncomfortable and shitty argument with that. You know, 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.240 it got nasty with that, now, I damn jo and 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.480 I wouldn't wanted to. Well maybe I could, though, because 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:00.960 I would probably be over there looking like I was 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.200 having extra fun and play through it and you know, 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:09.800 just like yeah, yeah, I take it. I would have 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.120 probably stayed and then like petty with the smirk on 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.000 my face and having drinks. I probably would have sent 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:14.880 her a bottle. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.560 That's very areas of you and tap dance on your 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:19.920 grave like Nigga did. 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:23.520 Yes, like yeah, and we're very equipped. 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.320 We're very good at like you never even I never 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.120 even saw you in the room. Never, We're very good 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.719 at that. Even if it kills us, it can look 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:38.279 like not like that. So yeah, yeah, they're not areas blue. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:42.120 What are your thoughts on Porscha leaving and then. 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.560 You know came Michelle stood on the mic and wanted 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.840 to make sure the shout out SMI a song and 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:54.839 we did see ultimately the other girls leaving with Porsche. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.320 Yeah, I'm gonna say something as part, I think it 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.720 was mature as somebody who it a lot to get 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.880 me mad. When I do get mad, then I want 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.720 to fight leave because here's the thing, right, it takes. 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.320 It took so much to get there, it's gonna take 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.719 a little bit of time to come back down. And 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.520 all it takes is one wrong look, one wrong moment, 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.400 and things could have gone left. So I think for 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:20.039 safety reasons, for maturity reasons, whether the girls follow her 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.880 or not, it's kind of inconsequential. She needed to leave, 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.680 and I'm happy that she self exited. I think one 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.039 of the things that I have noticed about the show, 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.040 because it's something that I mentioned, like on My Life 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.000 a couple of days ago. I was not a Porsche 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.080 fan after the Simon thing because I'm someone who has 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.240 a lot of pain around cheating and Jesse bells and 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.039 all that other stuff. The Simon thing made me pull 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:42.560 away from Porsche, like, Oh, it's a little bit too 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.320 close to them. I don't like that. One of the 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.080 things I want to give her a credit for is 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.480 you can tell that, whether you trust her heart or not, 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:52.320 her behavior has improved. We can't speak to somebody's heart. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.240 Nobody us or the comments can speak to Porsche's heart 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.200 or even Shemia's heart, but we can't speak to to that. 0:05:58.200 --> 0:05:59.520 In the words of James Baldo, when I can't tell 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.120 you how you feel, I can tell you what I 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.240 saw you do, though, And so what made me actually 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.160 warm up to Porsche more this season, more than any 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.719 other season since the Simon debacle is that Claude just said, 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.479 we are seeing her actively changing her behavior, whether we 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.320 think it's strategic or sincere or not. Behavior is something 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:18.840 that I have to give her credit for. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:24.040 Objectively speaking, Yeah, I'm with Blue. I think that Porscha 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.400 leaving was the mature thing to do. I also think 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.680 that Porscha feels like she didn't get to me as 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.919 good as she could have or wants to now. I 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.479 think there's a part of Porscha that feels like, even 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:39.040 like in her conversation with her sister Lauren the next day, 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.480 if Porscha was saying that the high road, I feel 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.760 like it's beyond me now, and she was just speaking 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.919 about the conversation in a way that suggested that you 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.640 ever had an argument with somebody, you know what I'm saying, 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.600 and for whatever reason, you kept it together or you 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.520 kept your composure as best as you could have when 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.640 you know you really could have really said and done 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.880 some sh it. Your first reaction would have been to 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.679 really take it there with them, and you regret it 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.000 after the argument, right you you think, and you'd be like, oh, 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.920 I should have told that motherfucker you know what I mean, 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.600 And you actually end up and if you have to 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.880 see the person again within a short amount of time, 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.080 you actually end up trying to get close to another 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:22.880 disagreement with them so that you can go on and 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:24.720 do what you wish you would have done the first time. 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.840 And I think that that is alive. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.880 In Porsche at this point in the story that we're 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.960 viewing on the show, and I. 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.520 Can't say I blame her. You say somethingbot, I don't 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:36.520 blame either one of them. 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.080 Just to keep it so real with you. I understand 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.440 why Shamia did what she did at that table. I 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.400 understand why Porscha wants to kicktion me his ass. I 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.760 understand both of them. You say, my mama did something sexually, 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.840 you know, crazy or whatever, I'm gonna see red forever, 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.520 you know what I mean. It's just like a natural reaction. 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.280 So I really see how they got there. I think 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.800 that Porscha leaving the club was the mature thing to do, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.440 and shout out to her for being unwilling to do 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:06.880 what most people thought that she would do, which was 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:12.000 lose her temper against Shemiah over in Scotland. Within the 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:15.320 international police. It's just not it's not close to have 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.360 that sort of drama. So Porscha did the best thing. 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.240 And one thing that I do want to clear up 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.880 because I know there were rumors circulating at the time 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.720 that they did film Scotland that a big physical fight 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.480 broke out. Yeah, have to be separated. I want to 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.360 go on record saying that no, Shemia and Porsche never 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.040 were in a moment of being separated because they were 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:40.600 about to fight. 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.440 So I want to go on record saying that that 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:43.360 never happened. 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.000 So I know things were circulating that that could have 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.440 been something that was edited out. 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.680 It wasn't at all that that that never happened. 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.600 Listen, let's call a spade of spade and let's have 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:57.360 a real conversation. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:57.680 Right. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:02.559 Yes, Porscha has been on the show since season five, 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.319 and yeh, she definitely has some physical altercations. 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.640 We know it, We've seen it. They sometimes flash back 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:08.240 to it. Right. 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.920 I do think that what Porscha is trying to do 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:17.320 is not be that. Then, when when Shemiah walked in, 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.320 I think, and I told you all this last week, 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:27.880 I personally won't ever be friends with anybody where that 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:29.679 sort of vituol is mentioned. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.960 Now, I'm not saying that Shamia wasn't warrant to saying it. 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:38.240 I'm just saying, as I'm watching the show that to 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.040 hear anyone, whether I deserve it or not, but to 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.800 hear someone say your mother's left, your mother tried to 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.800 sleep my daddy, I will always see rid when I 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.640 see you. But that's me, right, especially when it's so 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:51.680 fresh and we'll get. 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:52.280 To her behavior. 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:56.440 Portia's behavior when she rallied the girls to go to 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.280 to Fato's birthday dinner. I do think that because it 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:06.040 was that fresh and this girl comes in and you're still. 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.600 Not over it. I do think Portia knew. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:12.800 That that shits bubbling up, you know, like it's about 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:14.320 to resurface. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.439 And I'm in Scotland, I don't know the laws here. 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.480 Let me exit stage left before to take up this 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.240 girl off the floor, Hey Nini and short argument. So 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:29.360 I definitely think that was her mindset. With that being said, 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.360 the only people I did expect to go with Portia 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.800 is Phaedra and Cynthia because they have a friendship with her. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.760 They've known her for twelve years. 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:43.480 I would want Cynthia and Pedra to follow me if 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.800 I was leaving because we have history there. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:50.800 So I know that Angela and Cynthia both said that no. 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:55.599 They were there to see Shmia perform, and Angela provided receipts. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:01.199 I still think regardless of that Cynthia and Phedra living 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.800 with her, I personally did not see anything wrong with 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:08.760 it because if I have to, if I'm them and 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.200 I have to make a choice, I'm choosing Porsche over 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.200 she Mea just by the account of the history. 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.080 Well, everybody on this season is doing that. 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:19.960 Yeah, yeah, but. 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.240 It's so obvious. I'm needing a little bit of respect 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.120 for some of the girls honestly, because there was all 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:26.600 these big issues before, right. 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:31.240 And it's just who exactly, hold on, let me think. 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:32.680 About this because I won't get cussed on Twitter. 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:38.400 Dust right at you. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.400 She's like, I already know how this work. 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.080 Like it seems it just kind of seems so fake, 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.600 how everyone just all of a sudden forgot all about everything. 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.880 It's just like, you know, when it's someone else, like 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.640 we can all hate together. It builds bonds. And I 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.080 just feel like I hate when I see that in 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.320 friend groups, like it's just like, wait, like last Tuesday, 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.520 you had all the smoke on you just I don't know, 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:05.840 I don't know. It's it's given a little like I 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.600 think it's corny, but you know, it's it's predictable. It's 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.680 it's scary to stand on business. It's scary to like 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.360 stick by your convictions. It's easy to go with the 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.160 popular or more popular girl with the start. It's easy too. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:23.000 And I'm all for growth when it happens naturally in 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:24.720 like in due time. 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:25.920 It should go. 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:30.480 You should grow. But when you grow overnights, I kind 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.800 of have to side eye you just a little bit, like, 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.640 wait a minute, and your beef was even bigger. But okay, 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.040 I see a lot of that. And it's more than 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:40.599 one person that I see that for like all of 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.880 a sudden, it's like they never had an issue with 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.000 no one. And it's and I keep can y'all, someone 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.520 remind me that before the Mother Thing, which of course 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.600 I think was bad, right before that, what was the 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.240 real bad thing that Shmia did to make her be 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.720 so hated? Can And I'm not I just can't remember. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.319 Oh no way, and and and I I will go 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:04.480 on record saying prior to the Mother Thing, I echoed 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.280 the same sentiment. And of course I'm being called a 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.080 flip flopper, which I don't give a shit about that. 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.720 I am fair. And I watched the show like we 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:12.160 all do. 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:19.080 In my opinion, Samiah More Tim Milwangee did absolutely nothing 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.360 to warn being iced out by these girls. 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.600 She she just didn't. And I'm saying before the Mama Thing, 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:25.440 the Mama thing. 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:30.720 I one thousand percent understand why When I interview Portia 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.719 and I brought up Shemia, she said I will never 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:37.239 speak of her again. After watching that episode, I understand why. 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.160 She does not want to talk about her. I get it. 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:40.120 I totally get it. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:44.600 I don't get what Sami has done to Angela Oakley, Kay, 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:52.280 Michelle Drew, Sodora, Phedra, or Cynthia. I personally, as I'm 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:58.079 watching these episodes, I haven't seen anything to where Shamir 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.880 did something so egregious. She deserves to be I styled 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.840 by everyone else. Now with that being said, and I'm 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:09.920 gonna toss it to you guys, I would give Fedra 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:16.200 a pass only because from what we're from, what we 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.520 know about the history and what we're seeing now, her 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:22.280 and Porsche are like this, and I think to be fair, 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:26.520 to be fair to Faedra, if Faedra would have switched sides, 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.400 I think we'll all be calling her fake. So hey, 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.800 let's think about Porsche. I think it's fair, it's warranted, 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.720 that's for good Judy. For all these years, it makes sense. 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:38.200 It doesn't make sense, and I've seen everyone else do it. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.560 Well, if we're gonna keep it all the way real, 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.360 let's keep it all the way real, right, Phaedra and 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.560 Porscha's relationship, their friendship been fucked up since all that 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:50.360 stuff went down in season nine, and Porscha allowed Faedra 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.680 to say the things that she said about Shamiah allegedly 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.640 doing that sexual stuff with Candy and her husband Todd, 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.000 and Porscha really didn't intervene. She kind of doubled down 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.920 on it, and then the reunion debarco happened where Porsha 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.360 ended up telling that Phaeder was the one who had talked, 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.840 made those things up and set them and Shemia was 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:12.720 a little vindicated in that, but even in season sixteen, they. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.720 Never really healed from that. 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.480 And we noticed that we know that that's true because 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.640 it came up literally on stage at the reunion last 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:25.600 year for season sixteen when fade went Shemiah literally kind 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.880 of called Phager a little bit to task on it. 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.080 But that situation has never really been dealt with. So 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.160 I think that that's the facture in Porscha and Shamia's relation. 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.200 In addition to then there's a lot of layers there, right, 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:41.360 because there's the Candy layer, because Candy and Shamiah have 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:45.520 a real, actual legitimate friendship in real life, travel together, 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:46.240 do things together. 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.640 They're close, They're still in communication heavily right now. 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.800 That is not something that I'm sure has been easy 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:56.280 for Porsia to manage with some of the complicated dynamics 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.880 that have come, you know, to rise over the years 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:02.400 or whatever. There's a lot of let then the mothers. 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.640 You know, there's just a lot of layers there that 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:09.240 have contributed to the fracture in their friendship and they 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.000 just never really hear from that. Phaedra and Shamia never 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.480 really liked each other. So is it a shock that 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.720 she has gone to the side of Porsche. Of course, 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.120 that's where she's gonna go. We saw earlier in this 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:25.560 season when Angela and Pinky had their disagreement and the 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.800 phone call that Faedra had with Shamiyah came up and 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:34.440 about Faedra alluding to Pinky's veganism being fraudulent in some 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.960 way because back in the day she had the Jamaican 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.680 restaurant and they sold meat. Faedria actually said on the phone, 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:44.560 sell it meat, honey a child or whatever term coloquialism 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:49.080 she used, right, So like that, so they Shamia import 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.920 Shamiah and Fhaedra really not people like that, you know 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.960 what I'm saying. It makes sense that she has run 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.320 to the side of Porsche. That's what would make sense 0:16:59.360 --> 0:16:59.960 based on his. 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.480 Yeah, I'm not confused at all. So I'm not confused whatsoever, 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.160 because in real life, people don't have to do things 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.240 to you that are egregious to live a bad taste 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.639 in your mouth. Like, why are we acting like somebody 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.080 has to shoot you or talk shit about you to 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.800 make you not like how they move? It happens all 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:23.080 the time. If I am seeing Dustin and Carlos's friendship, 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.760 and Dustin is consistently moving in a way that gives 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.160 me the ick, I'm gonna have the ick about Dustin, 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.639 whether Dustin is something to me directly or not. In 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.359 real life, y'all right, So like, somebody doesn't have to 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:35.880 be like, oh, she did this to you, so therefore 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:37.240 you that's the only reason you could not like her. 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.480 You can just watch how somebody moves and not fuck 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:43.120 with it. And that's real life. And I think to 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:48.560 the point of not Porsha Phaedra. Phaedra said, Hey, that 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.200 thing with me turning the whole met comment into a thing, 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.879 why did you need to do that, Druce Dora said 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.080 when I did the national anthem, and y'all were being 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.520 nice nasty to me, and then to the point where 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:01.800 Kamush y'all have to leave her purse behind and y'all 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:03.959 saying nasty stuff and then singing as you drive off, 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.520 mocking what I thought was a great moment. Why'd you 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.879 have to do that to me? Shamiah's issue with the 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.280 girls doesn't have to be oh, we got beef. It's 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.520 in the word of free to callo. It's a nick 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:15.560 by a thousand paper cuts, right, death by a thousand 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.680 paper cuts. I think there are people in this world 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.960 like Portie who will do something that offends you, and 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.320 people like Shmiah who just keep nicking you. And the 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.399 knicks add up. So I'm not confused whatsoever. They have 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.600 been staying since the beginning. I'm gonna give them some credit, 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.800 even though I'm you know, I critiqued all the girls, 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.239 all of them right. They've all been saying since ever, 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.399 like three, ooh, I don't like that. Ooh, I don't 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.400 like that, Ooh, I don't like that. Weeks and weeks 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:40.800 of ooh, I don't like that. At leaves a bad 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.600 taste in your mouth. So when you finally see the 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:44.720 Mother episode, just like you know what, it's almost like 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.119 the ice of the glacier finally broke. So I'm not 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:49.160 confused whatsoever. 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.280 I could stand by that, but it only seems to 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.080 go one way, like the way you can say the 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.639 way that Shmid has been like little nicks by, you know, 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:01.360 death by a thousand cuts. You're friend, let bitches talk 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.760 shit about you and didn't do anything about it and 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.240 piled on. Okay, not cool. This girl also said she 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.640 would funck Charles pay back to Angela big lovey DEVI 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.280 now and I love me some Angela. There's many many 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.840 things that that she did as well. Like people are 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:18.879 just like, it's to me, it's me and Shamiah. No, 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.240 Shemia is annoying. Yes, Shemiah has done some things that 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.679 have been annoying and abnoxious. And I'm not putting a 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:26.600 fucking cap on for anybody, but I'm just like, I 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.840 gotta be fair, like when I don't like when one 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.479 person does a whole bunch of things, it's well, you know, 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:34.399 she's a star and she said this, and she said that, 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.240 and she's that girl so we're not gonna, like really 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.080 go against that, but when the newcomer does it, they're 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.639 so evil and they's so bad. There's enough smoke to 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.680 go around this entire cast. There are no innocent people here, 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:46.560 and I just, I guess I don't like that. I'm 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.200 always so about fairness, and I don't see that a lot. 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.600 I just see like Smida is like the biggest, baddest 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.920 person I've ever existed, and I'm like, yes, she's done things, 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:56.080 and I don't like some of the things that she 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.119 was doing with Drew. I feel like she was unnecessarily 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:00.159 hostile with Drew, and I do not like that. And 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.600 I'm saying that I'm not blind. I don't have blinders 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.600 on for anyone on the show, none of them. But like, 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:09.080 you know, I just feel like it's just a little unbalanced, 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.880 Like we're like leaving a lot of stuff to get 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.600 passes on over here, but this girl will not, And 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.680 I just need to be a little bit more fair, Like, you. 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.200 Know, I don't think reacting differently though. One person is saying, 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:22.640 you know what, girl, you're right, I played in your face. 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:24.119 My bad, the other person saying I'm a victim. I 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.760 don't know what I did wrong to me is also. 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:28.239 Fifteen years in the game on this and the other 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:29.080 one exactly, but. 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:31.600 Your But that's the answer to the not fair though. 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:33.760 The way that you're responding is what is what nips 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.120 it right? If we both have a beef with somebody 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:37.880 and one person's like, you know, a girl, I got 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:39.800 you fucked. Perfect example, if me and Dustin ever had 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:41.679 an issue, us'll call me like blue, I was on 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.080 some bullshit. I'm like busting. I was on some bullshit too. 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.880 I'm sorry friend. It's easier for us to get over 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.040 it than the person is saying, why is people out 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.600