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Speaker 2: Claudia, Dustin and Blue.
Speaker 3: The time has come for us to get into the
Speaker 3: latest episode of the Real Housewives of Atlanta. As we
Speaker 3: all know, this is episode fifteen of season seventeen, and
Speaker 3: it's a continuation of what happened last week, which was
Speaker 3: the biggest bomb of the season, Shemia versus four show, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, I have never seen a moment on
Speaker 3: a reality show trend for a week.
Speaker 2: Blue to loose mouth.
Speaker 4: Manuela, if you can pronounce.
Speaker 3: So blue, It has trended all week. Okay, It's something
Speaker 3: that a lot of people just are talking about even today,
Speaker 3: right even last night when Chemist Chef responded to Dustin's commentary,
Speaker 3: which we'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 2: So I want to hear Dustin's thoughts on her response, but.
Speaker 3: Nonetheless, the ladies are at the nightclub celebrating Phagor's birthday.
Speaker 3: Porsche is there, She's having a good time, Angela Pinky,
Speaker 3: Kim Michelle's on the ones and twos. She's singing Vsop.
Speaker 4: Yes, I love her voice.
Speaker 5: I'm so happy she's sang that song.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even offering up to play Juice a Dora
Speaker 3: song Delulu right like Kim.
Speaker 2: Michelle was in her element at the club. All the
Speaker 2: girls are having fun.
Speaker 3: We do see Samia and Kelly talk about the aftermath
Speaker 3: of what happened and how Samia said that she always
Speaker 3: cares about other people's feelings opposed to her own.
Speaker 2: She also said that she's.
Speaker 3: Cool on Porsche and that Porscha would never meet another
Speaker 3: friend like her. They didn't they they didn't get dressed,
Speaker 3: go to the club, and the moment they walked in,
Speaker 3: Porscha grabs her bag and leave.
Speaker 2: Claudia started with you.
Speaker 3: Do you think Portia did the right thing by removing
Speaker 3: herself from a situation when hours before that her and
Speaker 3: s Miya got into it over their mothers.
Speaker 6: Probably, if you feel like you might get violent and
Speaker 6: fight for your sixth time on this show.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: You don't want to do that. So if you feel
Speaker 6: like you have that in you, and she is trying
Speaker 6: to make an effort this season to get away from
Speaker 6: some that I think, but yeah, yeah, if you feel
Speaker 6: like you're gonna lose control, it's gonna be too triggering out.
Speaker 6: I've seen nothing romans removing and stell from a situation.
Speaker 6: It sucks for when you're trying to have a reality
Speaker 6: show together though, because half the cast left with her,
Speaker 6: so you know, but I get it, and uh, I
Speaker 6: would probably want to be around someone I just had
Speaker 6: a really uncomfortable and shitty argument with that. You know,
Speaker 6: it got nasty with that, now, I damn jo and
Speaker 6: I wouldn't wanted to. Well maybe I could, though, because
Speaker 6: I would probably be over there looking like I was
Speaker 6: having extra fun and play through it and you know,
Speaker 6: just like yeah, yeah, I take it. I would have
Speaker 6: probably stayed and then like petty with the smirk on
Speaker 6: my face and having drinks. I probably would have sent
Speaker 6: her a bottle.
Speaker 5: That's very areas of you and tap dance on your
Speaker 5: grave like Nigga did.
Speaker 2: Yes, like yeah, and we're very equipped.
Speaker 6: We're very good at like you never even I never
Speaker 6: even saw you in the room. Never, We're very good
Speaker 6: at that. Even if it kills us, it can look
Speaker 6: like not like that. So yeah, yeah, they're not areas blue.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Porscha leaving and then.
Speaker 3: You know came Michelle stood on the mic and wanted
Speaker 3: to make sure the shout out SMI a song and
Speaker 3: we did see ultimately the other girls leaving with Porsche.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna say something as part, I think it
Speaker 5: was mature as somebody who it a lot to get
Speaker 5: me mad. When I do get mad, then I want
Speaker 5: to fight leave because here's the thing, right, it takes.
Speaker 5: It took so much to get there, it's gonna take
Speaker 5: a little bit of time to come back down. And
Speaker 5: all it takes is one wrong look, one wrong moment,
Speaker 5: and things could have gone left. So I think for
Speaker 5: safety reasons, for maturity reasons, whether the girls follow her
Speaker 5: or not, it's kind of inconsequential. She needed to leave,
Speaker 5: and I'm happy that she self exited. I think one
Speaker 5: of the things that I have noticed about the show,
Speaker 5: because it's something that I mentioned, like on My Life
Speaker 5: a couple of days ago. I was not a Porsche
Speaker 5: fan after the Simon thing because I'm someone who has
Speaker 5: a lot of pain around cheating and Jesse bells and
Speaker 5: all that other stuff. The Simon thing made me pull
Speaker 5: away from Porsche, like, Oh, it's a little bit too
Speaker 5: close to them. I don't like that. One of the
Speaker 5: things I want to give her a credit for is
Speaker 5: you can tell that, whether you trust her heart or not,
Speaker 5: her behavior has improved. We can't speak to somebody's heart.
Speaker 5: Nobody us or the comments can speak to Porsche's heart
Speaker 5: or even Shemia's heart, but we can't speak to to that.
Speaker 5: In the words of James Baldo, when I can't tell
Speaker 5: you how you feel, I can tell you what I
Speaker 5: saw you do, though, And so what made me actually
Speaker 5: warm up to Porsche more this season, more than any
Speaker 5: other season since the Simon debacle is that Claude just said,
Speaker 5: we are seeing her actively changing her behavior, whether we
Speaker 5: think it's strategic or sincere or not. Behavior is something
Speaker 5: that I have to give her credit for.
Speaker 7: Objectively speaking, Yeah, I'm with Blue. I think that Porscha
Speaker 7: leaving was the mature thing to do. I also think
Speaker 7: that Porscha feels like she didn't get to me as
Speaker 7: good as she could have or wants to now. I
Speaker 7: think there's a part of Porscha that feels like, even
Speaker 7: like in her conversation with her sister Lauren the next day,
Speaker 7: if Porscha was saying that the high road, I feel
Speaker 7: like it's beyond me now, and she was just speaking
Speaker 7: about the conversation in a way that suggested that you
Speaker 7: ever had an argument with somebody, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: and for whatever reason, you kept it together or you
Speaker 7: kept your composure as best as you could have when
Speaker 7: you know you really could have really said and done
Speaker 7: some sh it. Your first reaction would have been to
Speaker 7: really take it there with them, and you regret it
Speaker 7: after the argument, right you you think, and you'd be like, oh,
Speaker 7: I should have told that motherfucker you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: And you actually end up and if you have to
Speaker 7: see the person again within a short amount of time,
Speaker 7: you actually end up trying to get close to another
Speaker 7: disagreement with them so that you can go on and
Speaker 7: do what you wish you would have done the first time.
Speaker 8: And I think that that is alive.
Speaker 7: In Porsche at this point in the story that we're
Speaker 7: viewing on the show, and I.
Speaker 8: Can't say I blame her. You say somethingbot, I don't
Speaker 8: blame either one of them.
Speaker 7: Just to keep it so real with you. I understand
Speaker 7: why Shamia did what she did at that table. I
Speaker 7: understand why Porscha wants to kicktion me his ass. I
Speaker 7: understand both of them. You say, my mama did something sexually,
Speaker 7: you know, crazy or whatever, I'm gonna see red forever,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. It's just like a natural reaction.
Speaker 7: So I really see how they got there. I think
Speaker 7: that Porscha leaving the club was the mature thing to do,
Speaker 7: and shout out to her for being unwilling to do
Speaker 7: what most people thought that she would do, which was
Speaker 7: lose her temper against Shemiah over in Scotland. Within the
Speaker 7: international police. It's just not it's not close to have
Speaker 7: that sort of drama. So Porscha did the best thing.
Speaker 3: And one thing that I do want to clear up
Speaker 3: because I know there were rumors circulating at the time
Speaker 3: that they did film Scotland that a big physical fight
Speaker 3: broke out. Yeah, have to be separated. I want to
Speaker 3: go on record saying that no, Shemia and Porsche never
Speaker 3: were in a moment of being separated because they were
Speaker 3: about to fight.
Speaker 2: So I want to go on record saying that that
Speaker 2: never happened.
Speaker 3: So I know things were circulating that that could have
Speaker 3: been something that was edited out.
Speaker 2: It wasn't at all that that that never happened.
Speaker 3: Listen, let's call a spade of spade and let's have
Speaker 3: a real conversation.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 3: Yes, Porscha has been on the show since season five,
Speaker 3: and yeh, she definitely has some physical altercations.
Speaker 2: We know it, We've seen it. They sometimes flash back
Speaker 2: to it. Right.
Speaker 3: I do think that what Porscha is trying to do
Speaker 3: is not be that. Then, when when Shemiah walked in,
Speaker 3: I think, and I told you all this last week,
Speaker 3: I personally won't ever be friends with anybody where that
Speaker 3: sort of vituol is mentioned.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not saying that Shamia wasn't warrant to saying it.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, as I'm watching the show that to
Speaker 3: hear anyone, whether I deserve it or not, but to
Speaker 3: hear someone say your mother's left, your mother tried to
Speaker 3: sleep my daddy, I will always see rid when I
Speaker 3: see you. But that's me, right, especially when it's so
Speaker 3: fresh and we'll get.
Speaker 2: To her behavior.
Speaker 3: Portia's behavior when she rallied the girls to go to
Speaker 3: to Fato's birthday dinner. I do think that because it
Speaker 3: was that fresh and this girl comes in and you're still.
Speaker 2: Not over it. I do think Portia knew.
Speaker 3: That that shits bubbling up, you know, like it's about
Speaker 3: to resurface.
Speaker 2: And I'm in Scotland, I don't know the laws here.
Speaker 3: Let me exit stage left before to take up this
Speaker 3: girl off the floor, Hey Nini and short argument. So
Speaker 3: I definitely think that was her mindset. With that being said,
Speaker 3: the only people I did expect to go with Portia
Speaker 3: is Phaedra and Cynthia because they have a friendship with her.
Speaker 2: They've known her for twelve years.
Speaker 3: I would want Cynthia and Pedra to follow me if
Speaker 3: I was leaving because we have history there.
Speaker 2: So I know that Angela and Cynthia both said that no.
Speaker 3: They were there to see Shmia perform, and Angela provided receipts.
Speaker 3: I still think regardless of that Cynthia and Phedra living
Speaker 3: with her, I personally did not see anything wrong with
Speaker 3: it because if I have to, if I'm them and
Speaker 3: I have to make a choice, I'm choosing Porsche over
Speaker 3: she Mea just by the account of the history.
Speaker 6: Well, everybody on this season is doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 6: It's so obvious. I'm needing a little bit of respect
Speaker 6: for some of the girls honestly, because there was all
Speaker 6: these big issues before, right.
Speaker 2: And it's just who exactly, hold on, let me think.
Speaker 6: About this because I won't get cussed on Twitter.
Speaker 4: Dust right at you.
Speaker 5: She's like, I already know how this work.
Speaker 6: Like it seems it just kind of seems so fake,
Speaker 6: how everyone just all of a sudden forgot all about everything.
Speaker 6: It's just like, you know, when it's someone else, like
Speaker 6: we can all hate together. It builds bonds. And I
Speaker 6: just feel like I hate when I see that in
Speaker 6: friend groups, like it's just like, wait, like last Tuesday,
Speaker 6: you had all the smoke on you just I don't know,
Speaker 6: I don't know. It's it's given a little like I
Speaker 6: think it's corny, but you know, it's it's predictable. It's
Speaker 6: it's scary to stand on business. It's scary to like
Speaker 6: stick by your convictions. It's easy to go with the
Speaker 6: popular or more popular girl with the start. It's easy too.
Speaker 6: And I'm all for growth when it happens naturally in
Speaker 6: like in due time.
Speaker 2: It should go.
Speaker 6: You should grow. But when you grow overnights, I kind
Speaker 6: of have to side eye you just a little bit, like,
Speaker 6: wait a minute, and your beef was even bigger. But okay,
Speaker 6: I see a lot of that. And it's more than
Speaker 6: one person that I see that for like all of
Speaker 6: a sudden, it's like they never had an issue with
Speaker 6: no one. And it's and I keep can y'all, someone
Speaker 6: remind me that before the Mother Thing, which of course
Speaker 6: I think was bad, right before that, what was the
Speaker 6: real bad thing that Shmia did to make her be
Speaker 6: so hated? Can And I'm not I just can't remember.
Speaker 3: Oh no way, and and and I I will go
Speaker 3: on record saying prior to the Mother Thing, I echoed
Speaker 3: the same sentiment. And of course I'm being called a
Speaker 3: flip flopper, which I don't give a shit about that.
Speaker 2: I am fair. And I watched the show like we
Speaker 2: all do.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, Samiah More Tim Milwangee did absolutely nothing
Speaker 3: to warn being iced out by these girls.
Speaker 2: She she just didn't. And I'm saying before the Mama Thing,
Speaker 2: the Mama thing.
Speaker 3: I one thousand percent understand why When I interview Portia
Speaker 3: and I brought up Shemia, she said I will never
Speaker 3: speak of her again. After watching that episode, I understand why.
Speaker 2: She does not want to talk about her. I get it.
Speaker 2: I totally get it.
Speaker 3: I don't get what Sami has done to Angela Oakley, Kay,
Speaker 3: Michelle Drew, Sodora, Phedra, or Cynthia. I personally, as I'm
Speaker 3: watching these episodes, I haven't seen anything to where Shamir
Speaker 3: did something so egregious. She deserves to be I styled
Speaker 3: by everyone else. Now with that being said, and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna toss it to you guys, I would give Fedra
Speaker 3: a pass only because from what we're from, what we
Speaker 3: know about the history and what we're seeing now, her
Speaker 3: and Porsche are like this, and I think to be fair,
Speaker 3: to be fair to Faedra, if Faedra would have switched sides,
Speaker 3: I think we'll all be calling her fake. So hey,
Speaker 3: let's think about Porsche. I think it's fair, it's warranted,
Speaker 3: that's for good Judy. For all these years, it makes sense.
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense, and I've seen everyone else do it.
Speaker 7: Well, if we're gonna keep it all the way real,
Speaker 7: let's keep it all the way real, right, Phaedra and
Speaker 7: Porscha's relationship, their friendship been fucked up since all that
Speaker 7: stuff went down in season nine, and Porscha allowed Faedra
Speaker 7: to say the things that she said about Shamiah allegedly
Speaker 7: doing that sexual stuff with Candy and her husband Todd,
Speaker 7: and Porscha really didn't intervene. She kind of doubled down
Speaker 7: on it, and then the reunion debarco happened where Porsha
Speaker 7: ended up telling that Phaeder was the one who had talked,
Speaker 7: made those things up and set them and Shemia was
Speaker 7: a little vindicated in that, but even in season sixteen, they.
Speaker 8: Never really healed from that.
Speaker 7: And we noticed that we know that that's true because
Speaker 7: it came up literally on stage at the reunion last
Speaker 7: year for season sixteen when fade went Shemiah literally kind
Speaker 7: of called Phager a little bit to task on it.
Speaker 7: But that situation has never really been dealt with. So
Speaker 7: I think that that's the facture in Porscha and Shamia's relation.
Speaker 7: In addition to then there's a lot of layers there, right,
Speaker 7: because there's the Candy layer, because Candy and Shamiah have
Speaker 7: a real, actual legitimate friendship in real life, travel together,
Speaker 7: do things together.
Speaker 8: They're close, They're still in communication heavily right now.
Speaker 7: That is not something that I'm sure has been easy
Speaker 7: for Porsia to manage with some of the complicated dynamics
Speaker 7: that have come, you know, to rise over the years
Speaker 7: or whatever. There's a lot of let then the mothers.
Speaker 7: You know, there's just a lot of layers there that
Speaker 7: have contributed to the fracture in their friendship and they
Speaker 7: just never really hear from that. Phaedra and Shamia never
Speaker 7: really liked each other. So is it a shock that
Speaker 7: she has gone to the side of Porsche. Of course,
Speaker 7: that's where she's gonna go. We saw earlier in this
Speaker 7: season when Angela and Pinky had their disagreement and the
Speaker 7: phone call that Faedra had with Shamiyah came up and
Speaker 7: about Faedra alluding to Pinky's veganism being fraudulent in some
Speaker 7: way because back in the day she had the Jamaican
Speaker 7: restaurant and they sold meat. Faedria actually said on the phone,
Speaker 7: sell it meat, honey a child or whatever term coloquialism
Speaker 7: she used, right, So like that, so they Shamia import
Speaker 7: Shamiah and Fhaedra really not people like that, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. It makes sense that she has run
Speaker 7: to the side of Porsche. That's what would make sense
Speaker 7: based on his.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not confused at all. So I'm not confused whatsoever,
Speaker 5: because in real life, people don't have to do things
Speaker 5: to you that are egregious to live a bad taste
Speaker 5: in your mouth. Like, why are we acting like somebody
Speaker 5: has to shoot you or talk shit about you to
Speaker 5: make you not like how they move? It happens all
Speaker 5: the time. If I am seeing Dustin and Carlos's friendship,
Speaker 5: and Dustin is consistently moving in a way that gives
Speaker 5: me the ick, I'm gonna have the ick about Dustin,
Speaker 5: whether Dustin is something to me directly or not. In
Speaker 5: real life, y'all right, So like, somebody doesn't have to
Speaker 5: be like, oh, she did this to you, so therefore
Speaker 5: you that's the only reason you could not like her.
Speaker 5: You can just watch how somebody moves and not fuck
Speaker 5: with it. And that's real life. And I think to
Speaker 5: the point of not Porsha Phaedra. Phaedra said, Hey, that
Speaker 5: thing with me turning the whole met comment into a thing,
Speaker 5: why did you need to do that, Druce Dora said
Speaker 5: when I did the national anthem, and y'all were being
Speaker 5: nice nasty to me, and then to the point where
Speaker 5: Kamush y'all have to leave her purse behind and y'all
Speaker 5: saying nasty stuff and then singing as you drive off,
Speaker 5: mocking what I thought was a great moment. Why'd you
Speaker 5: have to do that to me? Shamiah's issue with the
Speaker 5: girls doesn't have to be oh, we got beef. It's
Speaker 5: in the word of free to callo. It's a nick
Speaker 5: by a thousand paper cuts, right, death by a thousand
Speaker 5: paper cuts. I think there are people in this world
Speaker 5: like Portie who will do something that offends you, and
Speaker 5: people like Shmiah who just keep nicking you. And the
Speaker 5: knicks add up. So I'm not confused whatsoever. They have
Speaker 5: been staying since the beginning. I'm gonna give them some credit,
Speaker 5: even though I'm you know, I critiqued all the girls,
Speaker 5: all of them right. They've all been saying since ever,
Speaker 5: like three, ooh, I don't like that. Ooh, I don't
Speaker 5: like that, Ooh, I don't like that. Weeks and weeks
Speaker 5: of ooh, I don't like that. At leaves a bad
Speaker 5: taste in your mouth. So when you finally see the
Speaker 5: Mother episode, just like you know what, it's almost like
Speaker 5: the ice of the glacier finally broke. So I'm not
Speaker 5: confused whatsoever.
Speaker 6: I could stand by that, but it only seems to
Speaker 6: go one way, like the way you can say the
Speaker 6: way that Shmid has been like little nicks by, you know,
Speaker 6: death by a thousand cuts. You're friend, let bitches talk
Speaker 6: shit about you and didn't do anything about it and
Speaker 6: piled on. Okay, not cool. This girl also said she
Speaker 6: would funck Charles pay back to Angela big lovey DEVI
Speaker 6: now and I love me some Angela. There's many many
Speaker 6: things that that she did as well. Like people are
Speaker 6: just like, it's to me, it's me and Shamiah. No,
Speaker 6: Shemia is annoying. Yes, Shemiah has done some things that
Speaker 6: have been annoying and abnoxious. And I'm not putting a
Speaker 6: fucking cap on for anybody, but I'm just like, I
Speaker 6: gotta be fair, like when I don't like when one
Speaker 6: person does a whole bunch of things, it's well, you know,
Speaker 6: she's a star and she said this, and she said that,
Speaker 6: and she's that girl so we're not gonna, like really
Speaker 6: go against that, but when the newcomer does it, they're
Speaker 6: so evil and they's so bad. There's enough smoke to
Speaker 6: go around this entire cast. There are no innocent people here,
Speaker 6: and I just, I guess I don't like that. I'm
Speaker 6: always so about fairness, and I don't see that a lot.
Speaker 6: I just see like Smida is like the biggest, baddest
Speaker 6: person I've ever existed, and I'm like, yes, she's done things,
Speaker 6: and I don't like some of the things that she
Speaker 6: was doing with Drew. I feel like she was unnecessarily
Speaker 6: hostile with Drew, and I do not like that. And
Speaker 6: I'm saying that I'm not blind. I don't have blinders
Speaker 6: on for anyone on the show, none of them. But like,
Speaker 6: you know, I just feel like it's just a little unbalanced,
Speaker 6: Like we're like leaving a lot of stuff to get
Speaker 6: passes on over here, but this girl will not, And
Speaker 6: I just need to be a little bit more fair, Like, you.
Speaker 5: Know, I don't think reacting differently though. One person is saying,
Speaker 5: you know what, girl, you're right, I played in your face.
Speaker 5: My bad, the other person saying I'm a victim. I
Speaker 5: don't know what I did wrong to me is also.
Speaker 6: Fifteen years in the game on this and the other
Speaker 6: one exactly, but.
Speaker 5: Your But that's the answer to the not fair though.
Speaker 5: The way that you're responding is what is what nips
Speaker 5: it right? If we both have a beef with somebody
Speaker 5: and one person's like, you know, a girl, I got
Speaker 5: you fucked. Perfect example, if me and Dustin ever had
Speaker 5: an issue, us'll call me like blue, I was on
Speaker 5: some bullshit. I'm like busting. I was on some bullshit too.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry friend. It's easier for us to get over
Speaker 5: it than the person is saying, why is people out
Speaker 5: to get me? I'm a victim. I don't the person
Speaker 5: who's playing victim and the person who's like, yeah, you
Speaker 5: got me, I'm gonna always I said this. I said
Speaker 5: this for from the beginning as they tourist myself. I
Speaker 5: very much believe what Angela's is doing right. Angela's like,
Speaker 5: you were both on some bullshit. One person ate it
Speaker 5: and took it on the chin. The other person's fan
Speaker 5: in confusion and playing victim. I like the bitch who
Speaker 5: took it on the chin. That is valid to me.
Speaker 5: That's not fair. That's about two different ways of approaching things.
Speaker 5: The person who takes it on the chin, that keeps
Speaker 5: to the stack is always gonna get more.
Speaker 6: Respect on the show who's keeping the sack.
Speaker 5: The scene that happened with Porscha and Kelly where Porscha said,
Speaker 5: you know what, you've had some stuff to deal with
Speaker 5: me included you know what, life is bigger than this.
Speaker 5: That kind of conversation, we say, bitch, you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm part of the stressor I'm part of the whether
Speaker 5: it's whether it's sincere or not. Just want to land
Speaker 5: this plane, whether it's sincere or not. Someone who can
Speaker 5: look you and I be like, you know what you
Speaker 5: stressed about this man charging you two hundred million dollars
Speaker 5: and doing all these cases against you, and you gotta
Speaker 5: lock nothing in your plate. I'm probably on that play too, huh.
Speaker 5: And Kelly was like, yeah, bitch, you're on that play.
Speaker 5: And they had a key key about it in the
Speaker 5: conversation about it, whether it was sincere or not. The
Speaker 5: ability to just do that immediately makes people respect you more,
Speaker 5: whether they like you or not. We now in the
Speaker 5: car meanwhile in the car, Smia's car like and you know,
Speaker 5: I'm just responding because I don't know why, faming confusion
Speaker 5: and playing victim versus saying, you know, a bitch, I'm
Speaker 5: probably part of your problems. People respond differently to that.
Speaker 5: That's not about fair, that's about different reactions. They're not
Speaker 5: moving the same so they're getting different results.
Speaker 6: Okay, now let me say my plane. There's also a
Speaker 6: motivation for Portie to make up with Kelly, because it's furthermore,
Speaker 6: Ice is out Shmiah. I see the motivation. I see
Speaker 6: right through that shit. When someone I got my homie
Speaker 6: over here and you make up with my friend, I
Speaker 6: look like the bad guy over and over again. That
Speaker 6: is the dynamic a lot that happens so much in
Speaker 6: female friendships. I just look at it like there's motivation,
Speaker 6: and I do think it matters. I don't think you
Speaker 6: can just say regardless of the motivation. No, absolutely, the
Speaker 6: motivation is everything because she's an actress. But you can pretend,
Speaker 6: you can pretend like it's all good. I'm gonna make
Speaker 6: up with Kelly on camera and make it even more
Speaker 6: uncomfortable for the girl I'm really trying to hurt right now,
Speaker 6: which is Shemi. And she's never been a good friend
Speaker 6: of that girl. Ever since you're on camera letting people,
Speaker 6: I will never let nobody talk shit about none of
Speaker 6: my friends.
Speaker 5: And I know you guys would it.
Speaker 3: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 2: The thing is this. The thing is this.
Speaker 3: When I interviewed both Portia and Shamiah, right, I told
Speaker 3: Smia to her face when when I said, look my
Speaker 3: panel list, and I do believe that the first sign
Speaker 3: that we were able to see as an audience on
Speaker 3: camera was when yes, Porsche did sit there and allow
Speaker 3: Fedra to make make childish motions that you were sleeping
Speaker 3: with Andy and Todd, and yes, Portia sat there and
Speaker 3: her exact words were there. Scharie asked, Porsche, is that true?
Speaker 3: Portia response was they're very close. She did to say
Speaker 3: yes or no. She did say they were very close.
Speaker 3: That happened season nine, I said, Shamiah, in all fairness,
Speaker 3: because I get it, Samiyah, you also went over Candy's
Speaker 3: high house. And when Candy said that, Porscha said, I
Speaker 3: want to kiss you until.
Speaker 2: You did with Dustin then Saturday, then.
Speaker 3: You know, I said, Samia, no, Shade, you did this
Speaker 3: you sat there and you drank.
Speaker 2: And she said, because I saw what Porscha did.
Speaker 3: I said, no, no, no, no, no, that aired the same season.
Speaker 3: You did not get the episode of the Vans. And
Speaker 3: then she said, okay, Candy did tell me what was
Speaker 3: going on. My point is this, it were going to
Speaker 3: be fairer. To be fair, they both were not great
Speaker 3: friends to each other.
Speaker 7: Sorry, loos, big difference, big difference between them.
Speaker 8: Two things. You do them too.
Speaker 7: You're gonna have to use another example then, because that's
Speaker 7: a big difference between making.
Speaker 8: A face and co signing a damn lie.
Speaker 3: Sipping your sipping your imaginary cocktail, truth to co the truth.
Speaker 8: No, no, a lie, Carlo. That's the issue.
Speaker 2: No, in all fairness, Porch did not say. Yes, they're fucking.
Speaker 7: Close to both of them. They're real close. She close
Speaker 7: to both of them. That's what someone said. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 7: Let's be real.
Speaker 3: If someone said to you, yeah, I heard Carlos is
Speaker 3: a messy queen, and you do this, mm hmm, you're
Speaker 3: you're you're a low key confirming I'm a messy queen.
Speaker 8: Right, but are you one?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 8: Are you one? Though? Right? That would then be the
Speaker 8: question and I'm not saying you are. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 8: Here's the thing.
Speaker 7: Shemia sipping that drink and doing that stupid ship that
Speaker 7: I hate, that ship, t ship that I'm so fucking
Speaker 7: sick of.
Speaker 8: I'm not anyway, y'all.
Speaker 7: But but but Shemia doing that in agreement with the
Speaker 7: truth is a completely different action than porsche co signing
Speaker 7: a lie that Faeder made up, only to then throw
Speaker 7: her under the bus at the damn reunion. Very very,
Speaker 7: very different. You could say they're both messy and nature.
Speaker 7: You're right, you could say they're both. I don't know,
Speaker 7: whatever the fuck you want to call it, But this
Speaker 7: is a big difference between me sipping a drink when
Speaker 7: somebody says Carlos is on crack and I start sipping
Speaker 7: my drink and doing all that dumb shit, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, versus somebody saying, you know, Carlos got
Speaker 7: a Navy shirt on today, and I'm like, cause, you
Speaker 7: really do have a navy shirt on it.
Speaker 3: So, are you saying, okay because I think I'm following,
Speaker 3: Are you saying are you saying because Porscha said, let
Speaker 3: me back up? Are you saying when Scharay asked Porsche
Speaker 3: after Faeder said she is fucking Candy and Todd, and
Speaker 3: Sharay asks Porscha is that true?
Speaker 2: And being they're very close, she cursed them.
Speaker 8: That's what she said.
Speaker 7: That's important because relationship with him that You're right, I.
Speaker 2: Okay, this, okay, we can agree to disagree on this.
Speaker 8: I'm with you.
Speaker 3: It to me, it's the same thing because you you
Speaker 3: both have allowed the outside world to view you as
Speaker 3: two friends.
Speaker 2: That allowed another.
Speaker 3: Person to eviscerate your character, and you both stood there
Speaker 3: and took it on the chance.
Speaker 2: Now granted whether or not, whether or not.
Speaker 3: Porsia said that to Candy and Shamilla her unless my
Speaker 3: thing is this, unless Shamia was there with her tongue
Speaker 3: in Candy's mouth along with Porsche us, how do you
Speaker 3: know that's what Porsia said. You're you're you're you're you're
Speaker 3: taking what Candy said as truth, and that's your right.
Speaker 2: The thing is this just like.
Speaker 8: That's not a difference here.
Speaker 3: No, my point is at that time, Porcha did not
Speaker 3: admit it. Later at that time she said, I don't
Speaker 3: like you, shortens, I don't.
Speaker 7: Like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, we're not
Speaker 7: Finna sit here and pretend like Porscha did not co
Speaker 7: sign the lie that made up at that table with
Speaker 7: Charree and say something in agreement to the notion righting
Speaker 7: the same thing, full stop, full stop stop for me, right.
Speaker 3: There, I'm saying to you, yes, but I'm also saying
Speaker 3: to you, just because Shamia sipped her drink, whether or
Speaker 3: not it was true, doesn't mean that Shamia is absolved
Speaker 3: from also agreeing with a woman invecerrating her best friend
Speaker 3: around a group of women.
Speaker 2: They both were wrong, and.
Speaker 3: That to me showed that they both were not good
Speaker 3: friends with each other in that moment.
Speaker 5: Can I just say something my timeline though, because I
Speaker 5: want to make sure that nothing I'm saying is in
Speaker 5: season nine, which is why I haven't spoken during that segment.
Speaker 5: I'm living in the present tense, right and so in
Speaker 5: the present tense, I'm seeing two people who were best
Speaker 5: friends for a reason. When I talk to my old
Speaker 5: best friend a couple of days ago, as he's talking,
Speaker 5: I was like, I can tell why were best friends.
Speaker 5: We talked the same, we act the same. You can't
Speaker 5: be friends with somebody for that long without not having
Speaker 5: similar ways of acting about things right. Porsha was in
Speaker 5: rooms where people feel comfortable talking about Shmi in front
Speaker 5: of her. Shamia is in rooms people feel comfortable talking
Speaker 5: about portion in front of her, regardless of splitting hairs
Speaker 5: from five to six, seven, eight, nine, ten years ago.
Speaker 5: To me, a good friend is not someone that anybody
Speaker 5: feels comfortable talking about you in with me in the room.
Speaker 5: They've both done that, so can we stop splitting hairs?
Speaker 5: About seven years ago? They both have a long history
Speaker 5: of people feel uncomfortable talking shit about the other one
Speaker 5: with one present. That is a fact, right, Another fact,
Speaker 5: not an assumption, is one of them whether we understand
Speaker 5: her motivations or not, because again we're assuming f Truly
Speaker 5: one of them is improving in the behavior factually, whether
Speaker 5: we understand why she's doing it or not. My thing
Speaker 5: is whether you meet it or not. Can we all
Speaker 5: improve our behavior? If Shemiah, whether she's fake or not,
Speaker 5: decides to have emotional regulation, decides to take things on
Speaker 5: the chin, decides to say you know what, my bad,
Speaker 5: I can see why I did X, Y and Z
Speaker 5: without playing victim, I would be clapping for her as
Speaker 5: well a lot as I'm clapping for Portia. I'm not
Speaker 5: going to assume people's intentions. I am going to clap
Speaker 5: for improved behavior because whether it's real or not, emotional
Speaker 5: regulation is still present.
Speaker 6: I think it's all the time on this show though
Speaker 6: we do that all the time, and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, audience doesn't do that.
Speaker 6: Audience is run so many times. She made a whole
Speaker 6: YouTube special last after last year where we laughed at
Speaker 6: that ship because it was ridiculous, but she did and
Speaker 6: it was embarrassing. But she felt, I feel like.
Speaker 5: Can you explain I missed? I wasn't here last year?
Speaker 5: What are you talking about? Love brus Shamiyah.
Speaker 3: Shemia made a YouTube video with songs from Psalm ninety
Speaker 3: one YouTube music where apologized. She apologized and Shamia, I
Speaker 3: said it to your face and we could laugh at it.
Speaker 5: She blue.
Speaker 3: She made aation meet Beyond the Gates apology with gospel
Speaker 3: music written by Tasha Page Lockhart, and she apologized.
Speaker 2: To the ladies and her mother was sitting there slicing bread.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Claudia, because.
Speaker 5: Somebody sent me, Claudia, please send me the link.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's been deleted from the YouTube.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it was kind of embarrassing for her. It
Speaker 6: was definitely not a.
Speaker 3: Good Claudia, take your point, because I want to move
Speaker 3: on to the Porcha phone call.
Speaker 5: No, I'm still stuck in the Shamia video.
Speaker 6: But a lot like listen. I know people think I
Speaker 6: always give it Listen when she does better things, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna say she done some better things when I see
Speaker 6: it and when I and I can say, yes, she definitely.
Speaker 6: I mean think I started up my commentary saying she's
Speaker 6: done better than she's done in the past. She's definitely
Speaker 6: made some improvement, but I do think there's a motivation.
Speaker 6: I put a little answerd next to her and Shamiah.
Speaker 6: She's apologized, but then sometimes she does get tempted and
Speaker 6: does do little jabs and she does brings out on herself,
Speaker 6: and I got to give her that note. She does
Speaker 6: do that, but she they're not big things, but their
Speaker 6: little jabs except the mother thing when she then blew
Speaker 6: up the damn spot.
Speaker 4: So all right, I.
Speaker 8: Got one more point.
Speaker 5: I want to see that video now.
Speaker 4: Damnit.
Speaker 8: I got one more point.
Speaker 7: The problem is the reason that Porscha and Kelly were
Speaker 7: able to have that conversation Blue that you just brought
Speaker 7: up is because both of them are people who say
Speaker 7: what the fuck they got to say in the moment,
Speaker 7: they don't have regret and they don't they're not thinking
Speaker 7: back and holding resentment from their disagreements because both of
Speaker 7: them cuts each other the fuck out, got it on
Speaker 7: the floor right there in the moment, they were able
Speaker 7: to move on.
Speaker 8: Shemiah is resentful of Porsche.
Speaker 7: You can the baby whither it's justified or not, but
Speaker 7: there's resentment there and there's a lot of unsaid ship,
Speaker 7: which is why we saw what we saw at that
Speaker 7: table in Scotland, and that's why she can't move forward
Speaker 7: with Porcher, because she's still catching up to a lot
Speaker 7: of her hurt and resentment and regret and ship. And
Speaker 7: so I think that's the difference between the two of
Speaker 7: those situations why Kelly and Porsche were able to find
Speaker 7: some sort of bridge in that moment. It didn't last,
Speaker 7: but they were able to do that in that moment
Speaker 7: because they both didn't have the baggage of I'm still
Speaker 7: mad at you about this.
Speaker 8: I wish I would have said this to you about that.
Speaker 8: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: The reason why it's unfair is because one is willing
Speaker 5: to do it in the moment and the other one
Speaker 5: carries it, so it can't because they're acting differently.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 6: Sorry, one last thing. I know we're going along and
Speaker 6: me and Blue do you need to leave? I will
Speaker 6: want to just want to add this little spice to
Speaker 6: the pot. When your friends with someone for a long time, besties,
Speaker 6: whether you're really good friends with Gill or not, I'm
Speaker 6: sure that there's clearly a lot of secrets they both
Speaker 6: know about each other, right, a lot of stuff that
Speaker 6: they're holding best believe, every time Porsche had an argument
Speaker 6: withs On on the show or didn't like someone she was
Speaker 6: telling to me if I was like, I can't stand
Speaker 6: that phase. Can you believe she did this to me?
Speaker 6: And to see your people that you people that you know,
Speaker 6: your best pieople talking big cash money shit about and
Speaker 6: then now they're best of friends and that speech at
Speaker 6: Porsche gave about like no one else is there for
Speaker 6: me except Phaedra. I know that with shoes. So that
Speaker 6: was another calculated, nice nasty thing for sure. Sure, And
Speaker 6: I understand like there's been a lot of those little
Speaker 6: things happening to kind of like get a little dig
Speaker 6: in at Shmir and I will be pissed if my
Speaker 6: friend is sitting right in front of me, even if
Speaker 6: we're in a bad, really bad place and we may
Speaker 6: never get cool again. I'm seeing how fake you're being
Speaker 6: right now in my face with three of these people
Speaker 6: you know, talk big shit about about them to me,
Speaker 6: and I'm still not saying it.
Speaker 5: Claudi, you do that reminds me of It reminds me
Speaker 5: of what you said about the club. You said, had
Speaker 5: you been in the club, you would have been going
Speaker 5: sm sm sms. That was her version of them, sooms
Speaker 5: the next day.
Speaker 4: After she comes down, that was her version of.
Speaker 5: What you said you would have done in the club.
Speaker 3: Who Okay, So I want to move on to the
Speaker 3: to the phone call, because do you guys have leaving
Speaker 3: forty minutes?
Speaker 2: Okay? So what did y'all think about Porsche? Okay?
Speaker 3: So Porscha FaceTime her sister Lauren. The next day, Porscha
Speaker 3: tells Lauren about what happened between her and Shamiya. Porscha
Speaker 3: said that off camera, Cynthia told her something along the
Speaker 3: lines of Shamiya told Cynthia that as long as Shamia
Speaker 3: is able to see polar then she's cool with that,
Speaker 3: which a lot of people took that as to why
Speaker 3: Porsche removed Polar from Smilla's life.
Speaker 2: Blue started with you Again. What I look at this is.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of off camera conversation, and that really
Speaker 3: is allowing their friendships, meaning the whole cast, to not
Speaker 3: make sense for the audience because of these particular off
Speaker 3: camera conversations. But do you think that really made sense
Speaker 3: as to why Porsche definitely did not want Polar around
Speaker 3: Shmia for this common alone.
Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna make this one simple. I think
Speaker 5: we talked about it in the black community. If I
Speaker 5: don't mess with someone, my child's not gonna be around them.
Speaker 5: I think we all agreed universally about that. If I
Speaker 5: knew that I had spent a long amount of time strategically,
Speaker 5: Let's say I'm strategic. I'm strategically trying to circumvent feeding
Speaker 5: energy with you because I don't want to have a
Speaker 5: moment with you, because I know you want a moment
Speaker 5: with me, and I'm circumventing you. I'm circumventing you. I'm
Speaker 5: circumventing you. And I find out from somebody like Cynthia Bailey,
Speaker 5: who's highly trusted in who I believe immediately that you
Speaker 5: might have been clothing that you had found a way
Speaker 5: around me paying you dust by still having access to
Speaker 5: my child via the father of my child, who I
Speaker 5: still might still be a little bit in love with.
Speaker 5: I would feel very offended that you were even trying
Speaker 5: to get around to see my child knowing that I
Speaker 5: don't want to be around it. That would make me
Speaker 5: see red as much, if not more than the mother thing.
Speaker 5: So for me, if what was said is true, and
Speaker 5: Cynthia did tell Porsia, well, Porscha think that you know
Speaker 5: she doing something by ignoring me, but she don't know
Speaker 5: that I still get to see Polar and she can't
Speaker 5: stop me from my a relationship with Polar, that would
Speaker 5: actually piss me off more than the mom thing to me,
Speaker 5: there's something about that that that for me, would it
Speaker 5: me out that you are doing something that you know
Speaker 5: I'm not cool with. If that's how it actually went down, right,
Speaker 5: that's fair Dustin.
Speaker 8: Okay, So.
Speaker 7: Well, we know what people are not about to do
Speaker 7: is paint it out like Cynthia was doing something messy
Speaker 7: by telling Porsia that everybody up here knows Cynthia. We
Speaker 7: know that Cynthia told if anything, Cynthia was like she said,
Speaker 7: I mean, she really misses you. She's just happy that
Speaker 7: at least she gets the Sealespan's some time with Polar
Speaker 7: when when thank god that Dennis and Gerald are still
Speaker 7: cool whatever. That's how Cynthia told her that Cynthia didn't
Speaker 7: tell her that the girl, you know whatever, whatever the
Speaker 7: fuck number one, number two, number two Polar is Porsha's daughter.
Speaker 7: That information that conversation did not enlightened or make.
Speaker 8: Porsha aware of her daughter's whereabouts.
Speaker 7: Porsha know exactly where her daughter goes and don't go
Speaker 7: because her and Dennis talk about shit like that, so
Speaker 7: everyone in a Eureka moment or no, shit like that.
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 7: I think that Porsha and Shamia's relationship has reached a
Speaker 7: boiling point through conversations that they're now having that they
Speaker 7: didn't have before, where now it's at a point where
Speaker 7: I don't want my child over your house no more.
Speaker 7: We was just being cool or whatever and not really
Speaker 7: beefing out or going at each other verbally, and shit,
Speaker 7: I could play it cool and I was okay with
Speaker 7: my back being over there because we haven't crossed certain
Speaker 7: lines of disrespect. But now that we have much to
Speaker 7: your point, Blue, it's too late for my baby. My
Speaker 7: baby ain't finna be over.
Speaker 8: Your house now.
Speaker 7: And we just cussed each other our Porscha flat out
Speaker 7: said it when they were at the table. She said,
Speaker 7: which made perfect sense to me. She said, there's no
Speaker 7: way after the things that we've said to each other.
Speaker 7: I say the things I say to you, you say
Speaker 7: the things that I say to me. There's no way
Speaker 7: my child would be at your house, no matter who
Speaker 7: you were, unless you or my sister felt that one
Speaker 7: hundred percent made perfect sense. So I just think they
Speaker 7: got to that point, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Claudia, Yeah, I agree. I think Porscha's totally right to
Speaker 6: feel that way, even though I do not think in
Speaker 6: any world Shemia wants any harm to Pollar. I think
Speaker 6: Smir actually loves her like a niece like Porsha is
Speaker 6: totally within her rights, and you cannot criticize. I can't
Speaker 6: criticize that at all. I mean, I don't blame her.
Speaker 6: If I'm out rocking with you, you're not going to
Speaker 6: find a backdoor way to be around my daughter. And
Speaker 6: maybe one day when we cool again, maybe we can
Speaker 6: talk about that, but right now, while it's at this
Speaker 6: level that you brought it to because of that dinner,
Speaker 6: Porsia has every right to not feel comfortable with that,
Speaker 6: not that there's any threat, but because I don't like
Speaker 6: you anymore. So yeah, I'm taking away some little bit
Speaker 6: of sunshine out of your life. And the sunshine came
Speaker 6: from my daughter. You don't get to have that anymore.
Speaker 8: I agree you guys.
Speaker 5: God parents, because I remember I actually fell out with
Speaker 5: the mother of my god daughter, and so for me,
Speaker 5: I miss her. She's about to be sixteen and I
Speaker 5: haven't seen her right like. It's very hurtful, but it's
Speaker 5: one of those things where immediately understood it and didn't
Speaker 5: even question it. Mm hm No.
Speaker 3: I think listen, if you don't like me, you'ren't gonna
Speaker 3: like anything.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to allow you to like anything around me,
Speaker 2: especially my child.
Speaker 3: So I think we all agree that Porsia is definitely
Speaker 3: validated for that.
Speaker 2: We think Porscha is.
Speaker 3: Validated when she tells Lauren that she feels like when
Speaker 3: it comes to Smia that it is Destiny swapping with
Speaker 3: someone and Blue. Can you define to the audience what
Speaker 3: is destiny's and do you agree with Porsche?
Speaker 5: Destiny swapping is when someone gets close to you and
Speaker 5: takes notes on how you move through the world, and
Speaker 5: then they start following in your footsteps with the hopes
Speaker 5: of taking up the space that you currently occupy. So
Speaker 5: one could argue that coming on the show after Porsche
Speaker 5: made it clear via Shamia's version, that she didn't want
Speaker 5: to earn the show having them shoot her baby shower
Speaker 5: on her wedding after she was told being on Dish
Speaker 5: Nation or wherever the show's that Porsche has been. If
Speaker 5: someone is constantly following in your footsteps and they have
Speaker 5: close proximity to you and are literally trying to copy
Speaker 5: and paste your destiny, that's what's considered a destiny swap.
Speaker 2: Do you think that's what happening.
Speaker 5: I here's the thing. I'm going to be fair to
Speaker 5: Shami in the way that I've been to Porsche. I
Speaker 5: can't speak to Smilla's heart and her intentions. And the
Speaker 5: industry is very small. Everyone in this world who cannot
Speaker 5: stand me, and I replace them with no effort of
Speaker 5: my own. I've replaced them at their jobs, and I
Speaker 5: didn't apply for the job. I didn't ask for the job.
Speaker 5: It just so happens. They saw me popping online and said, hey,
Speaker 5: can you do this thing?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: That person could think I was listening shopping and they
Speaker 5: be dead. That's wrong. So, as someone who has replaced
Speaker 5: people who kept doing fuck with me, I don't want
Speaker 5: to put that on. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable in Shimiya.
Speaker 5: I think the industry is small. This is your friend.
Speaker 5: If someone thinks of you, they might think of her
Speaker 5: because we always saw Shami and Porsha as a package deal.
Speaker 5: So I don't think in my head Shemiah intentionally wants
Speaker 5: the Destiny swop with Porsche. And I can see why
Speaker 5: it looks like like that to Porsha. Does that make sense, guys?
Speaker 2: Yes, I can see like, well.
Speaker 5: We have this weird thing. I already told you know
Speaker 5: why you keep on showing up in my stuff? And
Speaker 5: Shemi is like, I just want to be a part
Speaker 5: of it because I'm you know, I'm I'm in the
Speaker 5: industry too, So I can see why one person is like, no, bitch,
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to do my job, and then one's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: but why is it always so close to mine? So actually,
Speaker 5: on this one. I see both of their sides.
Speaker 2: Claudia.
Speaker 6: I agree with one of the people in the comments.
Speaker 6: They said, Porscha Desney saw with Fallon, that's Dethney swap.
Speaker 6: The same guy went to the house and all that.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean, it probably feels like that'ld
Speaker 6: be Porsche like damn bitch everything I do. But then
Speaker 6: me could be like, uh you, I mean, you kind
Speaker 6: of want what my life as well. So I don't
Speaker 6: know if it's any intent on that. I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know about a destiny swap. And yeah, Atlanta
Speaker 6: is small, shoot asked everybody beyond this nation.
Speaker 5: Yes, Alanta's this big child. It's easy to look like
Speaker 5: your destiny swapping with somebody.
Speaker 7: I thought the destiny swap was fair of Franklin and
Speaker 7: Michelle Williams.
Speaker 9: Anyway, first, you know what, Dustin, you want to me
Speaker 9: tomorrow at seven thirty pm in Boston, will be in.
Speaker 4: The front row.
Speaker 8: Nah, but you know, well, we could send your luggage.
Speaker 5: You can send your luggage. Don't you want to be
Speaker 5: with your luggage?
Speaker 8: So to me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I think Porsche even bringing up the subject of a
Speaker 7: destiny swap, in my mind, makes it very plausible that
Speaker 7: she did have the feelings that Shmias shared that Porscha
Speaker 7: had when they were at that table talking things out.
Speaker 7: I think if you're looking at things to that lens
Speaker 7: of like, cause, like I feel like y'all know me
Speaker 7: very well. I don't believe in no competition or envy
Speaker 7: or none of that amongst my friends, even if like
Speaker 7: work in the same industry, like we just we just
Speaker 7: be happy for each other. So I don't even look
Speaker 7: at it through that lens. But if you're looking at
Speaker 7: it and framing it that way, it kind of to
Speaker 7: me is indicative of, well, you probably didn't want her
Speaker 7: to have something to take the show out of it.
Speaker 7: It could be anything, right, You probably didn't want her
Speaker 7: to have something that you feel is yours entirely, you know,
Speaker 7: which is okay because it's a human it's human right.
Speaker 7: It's a human reaction or emotion that some people may feel.
Speaker 7: It just gets kind of tricky because you're talking about
Speaker 7: your friends, somebody that you're supposed to be happy for.
Speaker 7: So the feeling, I don't know, just to me, it
Speaker 7: just crosses lines that make it very clear that they
Speaker 7: never had what I understand the real friendship to be.
Speaker 5: I don't think they were. I don't think they had
Speaker 5: the kind of friendship that you talked about from the beginning.
Speaker 5: The one thing this has taught me this season is
Speaker 5: that their friendship was rockier than we taught from.
Speaker 3: The yeah in terms of destiny swapping. The reason why
Speaker 3: I think all of us are sort of like we
Speaker 3: just don't know is because I think the only.
Speaker 2: People who would know would be Portia and Shamia.
Speaker 3: I know them a lot, I don't know them well
Speaker 3: even I'm not aware based on their history of being
Speaker 3: friends at fourteen then reuniting in their twenties, so I
Speaker 3: can't speak to it. I do agree with you guys,
Speaker 3: this industry is small and look, let's have more conversation.
Speaker 3: And Claudia, you can attest to this. In Atlanta, the
Speaker 3: number one gig for a black woman who's successful is
Speaker 3: to be Atlanta in Atlanta housewife.
Speaker 2: If if the Krem.
Speaker 3: Della Crem of the Atlanta girlies, it's the real estate
Speaker 3: girls who take photos looking down on the ground.
Speaker 10: Right, It's the number one gig to get clubs, and.
Speaker 2: It's like, what's pick up?
Speaker 4: What you drop?
Speaker 5: The level Ranger, it doesn't mean it.
Speaker 2: I love the Atlanta girlies.
Speaker 3: I will say this the culture of Atlanta for black women.
Speaker 3: If you want to be in the entertainment industry, the
Speaker 3: number one gig to get is to be a peach holder.
Speaker 3: And the moment is the reason why this is no shame, right,
Speaker 3: is the reason why a Pinky Coal for all of
Speaker 3: and purposes, is considered to be an amazing business businesswoman
Speaker 3: Forbes cover. I think she mc something with Oprah before,
Speaker 3: like all of us will look at Pinky like why
Speaker 3: do you need this? But for Pinky being a smart
Speaker 3: business woman, she knows as long Tucus my area code
Speaker 3: is for zero four, this is the gig to get.
Speaker 3: So I definitely think it's one of those things where
Speaker 3: I'm like, you guys, I can't even say whether or
Speaker 3: not it was destiny swapping. I think Porsta shamia friendship
Speaker 3: based on their personal conversations can only outline that.
Speaker 2: So I'm not even just that.
Speaker 3: One thing I do want to touch though, is Porscha
Speaker 3: Spade went shit literally.
Speaker 2: No pool, no nothing.
Speaker 3: But in this moment, they are talking about Shamiyah and
Speaker 3: Pinky did say that she has seen changes in Shamia
Speaker 3: and even said that at the airport she did ask Shamiyah,
Speaker 3: I'm are you ready for this trip, and allegedly Smida
Speaker 3: said I am ready for whatever is ready for me.
Speaker 3: Porsia then said she did feel like her and Shamia
Speaker 3: made amends and on the way to like make true
Speaker 3: Amen's kay. Michelle said her confessional that Porsche is lying
Speaker 3: and they have talked several times and allege that Porsche
Speaker 3: has never alluded to that.
Speaker 2: Claudia, what are your thoughts on that entire conversation?
Speaker 6: He set me up?
Speaker 2: No, everyone had a chance to go first.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be like Cardian in in court.
Speaker 2: We'll play because somebody clipped us up.
Speaker 6: Horse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should have gifts.
Speaker 5: We should have little gifts from one in that line.
Speaker 2: Yes, the ball.
Speaker 6: Fake news. Oh I think we were gonna be cool again.
Speaker 6: I was bolted.
Speaker 5: Stop playing in the faith.
Speaker 6: Stop playing in our faith like you were never gonna
Speaker 6: be cool with her again. It was not gonna happen.
Speaker 6: And this is working for you. You were looking like the
Speaker 6: clean bee and all your subjects around you, they're all
Speaker 6: kissing your ass and it's a great place for you.
Speaker 2: You're done.
Speaker 6: You're now Meini on the show.
Speaker 2: Now you're loving this?
Speaker 4: You love this?
Speaker 6: Would I be wrong for I said you destiny? Ni? Okay,
Speaker 6: never mind, I want to say that because I'd be
Speaker 6: hating so anyways, it was a lie. It was a lie.
Speaker 6: She had no intentions of squashing with Shemiah, and it's
Speaker 6: that was fake news. But you tried it.
Speaker 2: You look cute though, Dustin.
Speaker 8: Yes, What's my question?
Speaker 7: Do I think or what do I think about what Key.
Speaker 8: Michelle and said about Shemia?
Speaker 3: Do you think that Porsche really did walk into this
Speaker 3: trying to make amends with Shemiah?
Speaker 2: Ky Michelle doesn't think so.
Speaker 3: And on the flip side, Pinky said that Shemiah pretty
Speaker 3: much is not who she thought she was in terms
Speaker 3: of her behavior so far.
Speaker 8: In her own way. I do.
Speaker 7: I think that by not confronting Shemiah, not addressing the
Speaker 7: pink elephant in the room all those times, and uh
Speaker 7: by going along to get along, so to speak, I
Speaker 7: think that that was Porscha's way of trying to move forward, right,
Speaker 7: It's by doing the opposite of being combative, the opposite
Speaker 7: of being confrontational, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: I think that that and her that was her way
Speaker 8: of doing that. Now.
Speaker 7: I do think she went it Tierra Marisee put twenty
Speaker 7: on ten or whatever. I think she kind of inflated
Speaker 7: it and turned it into something that it really wasn't.
Speaker 8: But yeah, that's what I think.
Speaker 5: I think it's a combination of a Claudia and Dustin said,
Speaker 5: I think we're all on the same page. Actually we're
Speaker 5: just saying the same thing in different fonts. In my mind,
Speaker 5: people don't realize this. A lot of times, the word
Speaker 5: success looks very different. Right Like if I say the
Speaker 5: word dog right now, Dustin, what would you think.
Speaker 8: Of that said the word dog me on Saturday night?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, Claudia, hard to fall out. If I
Speaker 2: said the.
Speaker 5: Word whould you think of right now?
Speaker 6: Brother?
Speaker 5: Your father?
Speaker 4: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Okay, Carlos clean this up.
Speaker 4: Carlos help me.
Speaker 5: The ares have taken over, Carlos not not Now, you
Speaker 5: need a diplomatic libra. If I said the word dog
Speaker 5: right now, would you think of the animal? What kind
Speaker 5: of dog?
Speaker 2: I would think? Well, I have a Pomeranian.
Speaker 5: Do you think of a Pomeranian?
Speaker 11: Okay?
Speaker 5: And I would think of of a of a king
Speaker 5: Charles Cavalier. The word dog, the word that simple means
Speaker 5: all that some of y'all have very.
Speaker 3: Interesting talking doggie style, and Claudia is talking her.
Speaker 8: Can you hear me?
Speaker 5: No, me and Claudia on the same page about that one.
Speaker 5: But that's just the way the way the word dog
Speaker 5: is one syllable, and we can all have a different
Speaker 5: version of y'all fucking this up the way.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, I'm like, damn, we got a.
Speaker 4: Moment.
Speaker 6: We kept it on, and we kept it. Were two
Speaker 6: to our area.
Speaker 5: Kept one hundred. I appreciate that you know how to
Speaker 5: fuck with the heavy. So like the way we could
Speaker 5: say the word dog right, one syllable, a word that's simple,
Speaker 5: and yet we all have four different iterations of it.
Speaker 5: I think in Portia's mind to actually speak with Claudia said,
Speaker 5: as your strategist and veteran reality star, us moving forward
Speaker 5: is us keeping it cordial even though I don't fuck
Speaker 5: with you and you don't fuck with me. I think
Speaker 5: in her version, that is her version of moving forward.
Speaker 5: I do think she embellish, which is the word I
Speaker 5: Thinkdustin was looking for because the Claudia is point she
Speaker 5: was told in court. But I do think she was like, yo,
Speaker 5: if we can make it through Scotland and keep it,
Speaker 5: keep it cute, keep it a stack. I could be
Speaker 5: your colleague and never be your friend again, and that's
Speaker 5: improvement for us. That's a win for us. In her mind,
Speaker 5: a win is you learning how to play the fucking game.
Speaker 5: Get out your feelings, toe and let's get this bag.
Speaker 5: That's how Portia's thinking. Shemia is thinking, Oh my god,
Speaker 5: we make up and we we we heal the wound
Speaker 5: and we become friends. The same way the word dog
Speaker 5: means something different. Getting over it means something different to
Speaker 5: the two of them. So I think was embellishing. She
Speaker 5: wasn't lying. It's just her version of getting over it
Speaker 5: looks very different than Shimiya's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Think she's a liar.
Speaker 3: Well, no, I actually I think this. I always go
Speaker 3: back to the behavior on the show. I think since
Speaker 3: episode one we got to keep it a buck. I
Speaker 3: think Porscha went in saying me and this girl will
Speaker 3: never be friends.
Speaker 2: However, I will be a good coworker.
Speaker 5: I think one hundred percent agree with that.
Speaker 3: Went into season seventeen saying me and these girls are
Speaker 3: co workers, and I mean me and Shmi are co workers,
Speaker 3: and I will be a great co worker with her,
Speaker 3: and that's it, and that's why she invited her to
Speaker 3: her home. I think we all got to sit back,
Speaker 3: just like we're black, and we know that black folks
Speaker 3: don't play by their kids, and no, you can't sit
Speaker 3: up here and hang out with my kid.
Speaker 2: We ain't fucking each other. We know the couse of
Speaker 2: black people are.
Speaker 3: Our home is our sanctuary, and I think Porscha went
Speaker 3: in saying, come to my house.
Speaker 2: It ain't that deep. We're good, but we would never
Speaker 2: be great.
Speaker 3: I think the mistake that Shouldia made is she kept
Speaker 3: things bottled in for so long, and the moment she
Speaker 3: decided not to return the favor and invite Porsche to
Speaker 3: her home, I think that was the first moment that
Speaker 3: Porscha realized, you don't even know what it's like to
Speaker 3: be a good coworker. And because of that, you not
Speaker 3: inviting me into your home has now allowed these other
Speaker 3: girls to poke at our friendship because prior to that,
Speaker 3: the girls paid it. We had Kate Michelle versus everybody,
Speaker 3: we had Drew and you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: I do think in Porsha's mind, she thought not make
Speaker 3: amends as best friends. I think Porscha went in like
Speaker 3: we will never be that, but we can make amends
Speaker 3: to where we could both coexist on the show.
Speaker 5: And I think Claudia, we have Claudia. I think Claudia.
Speaker 5: When you keep on saying she's been strategic, I think
Speaker 5: you're speaking to what Carlo's just saying. I am that's
Speaker 5: I think that's what people don't notize. I think we're
Speaker 5: all saying the same thing in different fonts. Porsia's version
Speaker 5: of getting over this is very different than Shamilla's, and
Speaker 5: so it's a lie based on Samia's view. But in
Speaker 5: Portia's mind, this all makes sense to her.
Speaker 4: Her world is very different.
Speaker 6: I think Portia's being a good reality star and even
Speaker 6: in budding, Shamia to her house was not from the heart.
Speaker 2: That's because it was an all casts. I don't know
Speaker 2: it was it was.
Speaker 3: It was I understand that g Diane william I'm the
Speaker 3: face of this show. I'm senter peach and I have
Speaker 3: a responsibility, right and Porscha did her job. Let's be real,
Speaker 3: if I was producing this season, I would have to
Speaker 3: porsicha look, bitch, I know you'n' fuck with this girl, but.
Speaker 2: We need an all cast, so have her come through.
Speaker 3: Carlos, make it make you know how you girls do
Speaker 3: for Claudia, Well, Carlos make it make sense sure how
Speaker 3: instead of it being all the girls?
Speaker 2: How by making a couple's thing so that you're not
Speaker 2: directly in her face.
Speaker 4: Huh?
Speaker 2: That makes sense for me.
Speaker 3: And she did it because that shows me she's a
Speaker 3: team player. I think Shemiah not saying Shamia is wrong.
Speaker 3: I think what you're saying is true. Claudia Portia is
Speaker 3: a fantastic reality star. I don't think it diminishes the
Speaker 3: fact that in her mind though, she still felt I
Speaker 3: can coexist with you on this show, and I think
Speaker 3: Shemiah wanted her to coexist in her life.
Speaker 5: Amen.
Speaker 6: Tomi is not a reality she's becoming a reality star.
Speaker 6: Wars Tomia is not. She's still operating like this is
Speaker 6: my real life, this is my friend.
Speaker 5: But what about us?
Speaker 6: And it happens to the girls that come in and
Speaker 6: you have to do a scene with a season veteran,
Speaker 6: You're like, Oh, I'm going to the scene so I
Speaker 6: can make up with this girl, so we can really
Speaker 6: get to a real understanding and really do it and
Speaker 6: then it's going to translate in real life that happens
Speaker 6: and you're thinking like you're thinking one way, like, oh,
Speaker 6: we had a good scene, and then they get to
Speaker 6: the scene of the season one and they are just
Speaker 6: running circles on You're not even realizing what they're doing
Speaker 6: because you don't understand, you don't want to stand the
Speaker 6: environment you're in. Yet that happens all the time, like
Speaker 6: you would be surprised at, like and then a green
Speaker 6: screen comes out, a confessional, shit changes, like, Yo, there's
Speaker 6: a whole bunch of shit that goes on this. It's
Speaker 6: not as simple as they're in the moment like this's all.
Speaker 6: And that same producer Carls that sits a portion down
Speaker 6: and says, hey, have the all cast. I know you
Speaker 6: don't fuck with her, just do it would also say
Speaker 6: something like and in the future, if Shmida says no
Speaker 6: to you're coming over, You're gonna look like the bigger person.
Speaker 6: It's gonna make you look great.
Speaker 2: That's a lot.
Speaker 3: I agree with you, and that's why listen. I think
Speaker 3: what Shamia is doing currently is getting Responding to Portia's tweet,
Speaker 3: I think Shemia is finally understanding I have to play
Speaker 3: this as a game. And Shia currently by not responding
Speaker 3: to Portia's tweets last Monday, shows us it's now getting
Speaker 3: to her.
Speaker 2: But I think this season it was hard for her.
Speaker 2: There's like, look, look, she didn't.
Speaker 6: Get what was happening at first. I think she was
Speaker 6: still like shocked, like.
Speaker 5: I'm she's catching on. I'll take it, however I can
Speaker 5: take it.
Speaker 3: Did you guys catch on to Shmia asking Phedra how
Speaker 3: was it dating after her divorce and Fadus said that
Speaker 3: in seven years she only had two boyfriends.
Speaker 5: Once again, Look, the truth has a loose relationship with
Speaker 5: these ladies. Okay, the truth is chasing them and they're
Speaker 5: all slightly faster.
Speaker 6: She was on marriage boot camp with my ex boyfriend
Speaker 6: who dated my best friend's boyfriend Tony, like back to
Speaker 6: back within two months of each other twice.
Speaker 5: If somebody has had young.
Speaker 6: Listen, I ain't never been afraid to say the truth.
Speaker 6: And they be up, be mad as they want, so truth,
Speaker 6: go google it, Google Phaedra and Medina, which I'm not
Speaker 6: mad about that I kicked him out of my house
Speaker 6: and he only had two suitcases and then tell him
Speaker 6: like they dated and he was like a big deal
Speaker 6: in Chicago, great radio and TV personality.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 6: About these two. And then she was eight now the
Speaker 6: tall guy that was really handsome. I don't know why
Speaker 6: she needs feels I need to do that, because Padria,
Speaker 6: your whole thing is being like a sex kitten and
Speaker 6: sexy and all that, Like, why would that even be
Speaker 6: an issue? Like, no one's believing you only had two
Speaker 6: men in seven years. Shit, I don't had one that
Speaker 6: and I had a drop for three years. Okay, okay
Speaker 6: at the Riah.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm new here, all right, Christen.
Speaker 6: I'm allergic to bullshit and lies, and that's why people
Speaker 6: be like, why do you like? I don't like fake people.
Speaker 6: They irritate my spirit and my soul. I don't like
Speaker 6: people that have to lie and be like, oh, I'm
Speaker 6: just so Christian, I'm so listen. Then the biggest holes
Speaker 6: in town not saying she is, but she damned sure.
Speaker 6: I have all the two men. We all have. Everybody
Speaker 6: on this panel has more than.
Speaker 5: I'm a virgin Claudia talking period in my life.
Speaker 6: Because you'll be talking all that sexy ship all the
Speaker 6: time on this show.
Speaker 5: I'm not about to do.
Speaker 2: It's a line.
Speaker 6: Okay, please mashing me a boy, but we're not about
Speaker 6: to do.
Speaker 5: I'm a virgin's time.
Speaker 2: I have man this week of Claudia Jordan, thank you
Speaker 2: the one.
Speaker 4: Have twelve minutes.
Speaker 10: Please get us you're safely wrong anything.
Speaker 2: We can move Yeah, okay, let's move on to the dinner.
Speaker 6: Oh wait, so y'all age with me? What do y'all think?
Speaker 6: Do you think she had too many seven years?
Speaker 2: Come on now, I think names, I think this, I
Speaker 2: think listen, what amazing?
Speaker 5: Go back tonight.
Speaker 2: I already know I'm interesting.
Speaker 3: Was leaning into the juxtaposition the church girl and the
Speaker 3: city girl, right, so I maybe I'm just synthesized from it.
Speaker 11: I when she said it, I thought, even before Cynthia's
Speaker 11: confessional camera what she said, which, by the way, Cynthia everything.
Speaker 5: I love Cynthia.
Speaker 3: So because I'm so used of Asia doing that, I
Speaker 3: think me, well, I'll speak myself.
Speaker 2: I literally laughed because I was like, it's Phaedia being Phedra.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not like it's not a big deal. It's
Speaker 6: like whatever, girl definition.
Speaker 7: Yeah that further to that point, she said, boyfriends, Oh
Speaker 7: my god.
Speaker 5: Oh boyfriends. Okay, that helps boyfriend.
Speaker 7: Sorry, so I think, you know, for that, then maybe
Speaker 7: she did find a loophole, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: A way to save you know, to.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, I want to move on. Because
Speaker 2: the girls have a dinner for Fedra.
Speaker 3: In this moment, Porscha makes a speech and in this
Speaker 3: speech she says that Phedra has been there at someone.
Speaker 2: She could call when she had no one else.
Speaker 3: Angela, Shamia and Kelly All in the Confessionals says that
Speaker 3: Porsche is linging on thick because of Samiyah, and Kelly said,
Speaker 3: if you look on social media, they don't even hang
Speaker 3: out like that. Shamia even said her confessional that Phaedia
Speaker 3: was not even at Porscha's wedding, starting with you.
Speaker 7: Dustin, Yeah, She's right. We don't see Porsia and hanging
Speaker 7: out outside of the show, Which do we? I mean whatever,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, we already know what their
Speaker 7: relationship is about again and hate to take it outside
Speaker 7: of season seventeen, but we're not going to be aloof
Speaker 7: to the history of their friendship. Right How close can
Speaker 7: they be? You know what I'm saying? At this point
Speaker 7: in their friendship, so I think that they have learned.
Speaker 8: How to and as og not og.
Speaker 7: But as veteran cast members on the show, right faed
Speaker 7: Your entered at season three with Cynthia Bailey and Portia
Speaker 7: entered at season five, they are the old standards, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying of the show, So in their
Speaker 7: positioning as such, they have camaraderie. I think that's what
Speaker 7: we're seeing. So I don't think it's a real friendship.
Speaker 7: We know it's not. Let's just keep it all the
Speaker 7: way real, you know what I'm saying. But they cool.
Speaker 7: They got a lot of history together and they're amongst
Speaker 7: a bunch of new characters on the show, so they
Speaker 7: find camaraderie in the shared history. But I don't think
Speaker 7: they friends, and SMI is right.
Speaker 2: Blue.
Speaker 5: I think that when you are trying to learn how
Speaker 5: to play baseball with a new player and they keep
Speaker 5: on fumbling, and makes you appreciate the old players.
Speaker 2: That you took for granted.
Speaker 5: So I don't think that Toustin's I don't think any
Speaker 5: of us think they're friends. I do think that her
Speaker 5: thinking that her and Shamia could get to that cordial cold.
Speaker 5: We're just business associate's place and it not working out
Speaker 5: and it becoming so uber personal actually probably didn't make
Speaker 5: her appreciate Fager even more, Like, you know what, bitch,
Speaker 5: I don't even really fuck with you like that in
Speaker 5: real life. At least you know how to play the game.
Speaker 5: I don't have to worry about you, do. I have
Speaker 5: to worry about this other one who's making it personal.
Speaker 5: So I do think Number one, she was laying it
Speaker 5: on Thick as a sub. It was her version, so
Speaker 5: I said earlier, of her being in the if she
Speaker 5: had stayed in the club and was partying extra hard,
Speaker 5: she left right, This is her version of doing that.
Speaker 5: So I do think she was laying it on Thick
Speaker 5: to be spiteful. And though I do think that what's
Speaker 5: happening with Shemiah made her appreciate Porsche. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm appreciate fa She's like, oh my god, you know what, bitch,
Speaker 5: we have done many a scheme together. We've fallen out,
Speaker 5: we don't really hang anymore. We both got put off
Speaker 5: the show, came back all all this crazy shit. But
Speaker 5: when it's time to you know, lights on this, you know, lights,
Speaker 5: action camera whatever, you know how to play your position.
Speaker 5: I appreciate that shit. So yeah, I think it was nice, nasty,
Speaker 5: and simultaneously an appreciation she has before. I also said
Speaker 5: this too though, right Phaedra is very cool with Ky
Speaker 5: Michelle and the Smalls, and she's also worked besties with Portia.
Speaker 6: I'm trying.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be curious to see how how the season
Speaker 5: ends with phaser like that, because it feels like she's
Speaker 5: on both sides, and so I'm curious how she's gonna
Speaker 5: play it when the reunion, if it becomes explosive. I'm
Speaker 5: just curious because right now I feel like she's almost
Speaker 5: like does anybody else feel like that? That she's a double agr?
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I mean.
Speaker 3: Look, Faedra made a comment in a recent interview making
Speaker 3: fun of she gonna say names, but she she said
Speaker 3: things like some people need to worry about not having
Speaker 3: a house, of their cars and all those things, and.
Speaker 2: I look, now.
Speaker 3: Well the thing is this? The thing is this the
Speaker 3: only true friendship on that show that I believe off camera?
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna be very honest, is Kelly and Shamia's absolutely.
Speaker 2: I think the rest are coworkers.
Speaker 3: I think I think Faedrin Porsche have. I think they're
Speaker 3: historical friends. To quote Heather de Bro, thank you for
Speaker 3: reminding me Raindrop. The whole freaking fract I think is dated.
Speaker 3: It was cute season season nine. I don't think any
Speaker 3: of us are buying that they have that close relationship.
Speaker 2: I think they're friends of convenience.
Speaker 3: I think Shamia clocked in when she said, y'all such
Speaker 3: close friends that you didn't even show up to Porscha's wedding,
Speaker 3: and Portia had two of them.
Speaker 2: I was at.
Speaker 5: THEMA eight with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was at the African one.
Speaker 3: I was with Carly rid Yandy Shamillah, Lauren Ms Diane
Speaker 3: as a mother's child, Monique Samuel was there, Bryan was there.
Speaker 2: It was it was a good wedding. It was a
Speaker 2: good wedding.
Speaker 3: And and Phaedia was in Paris with her with her
Speaker 3: with her boys, because I trust me, I know the
Speaker 3: competence saying she was she was in Paris.
Speaker 2: With her boys.
Speaker 3: If that's your best friend's wedding, your close friend, your
Speaker 3: good Judy, or your frick, then I definitely think someone's
Speaker 3: wedding could have been made, some arrangements could have been made.
Speaker 3: So no do I think they're best friends. No, do
Speaker 3: I think they're amazing coworkers. Yes, I think they're cubicle girls.
Speaker 3: I think like the girl working in the cubicle and
Speaker 3: my cubicle neighbor was my best friend. Bitch, we will
Speaker 3: go to lunch together, cash our checks together.
Speaker 2: On the weekends, we didn't speak.
Speaker 3: Okay, we didn't speak on the weekends, my cubica girl
Speaker 3: or guy, we didn't. We didn't hang out on holidays. Right,
Speaker 3: I knew nothing about your family reunions.
Speaker 2: Or lack thereof.
Speaker 3: But bitch, at work at that cubicle, we were Cagney
Speaker 3: and Lacey, and I to me describes and fare friendship.
Speaker 6: I don't think favor of anyone's friend throughout the years.
Speaker 6: Who is she really?
Speaker 5: That's confused, Claudia. I think maybe that's why I'm like,
Speaker 5: even her version of friendship is a little shaky.
Speaker 6: Who's she been solid with? I mean she's not who
Speaker 6: like it was a thing, Like, she's not been solid
Speaker 6: really with anyone. And I think she takes in a
Speaker 6: way I think she maybe it's good for her because
Speaker 6: she takes this Real Housewives of Atlanta as a job.
Speaker 6: I don't think she's like caught up in any you know,
Speaker 6: fantasies that these are my real people. I do think
Speaker 6: that her Porscha really do like each other. They have
Speaker 6: gone to act together, They've gone to see Beyonce together,
Speaker 6: if someone SATs in the comments, They've done some things.
Speaker 6: But I think it definitely benefits them both to have
Speaker 6: each other. They know how the game is played, they
Speaker 6: know how to, they know how to steal the scene back,
Speaker 6: they know how to be in cahoots, they know how
Speaker 6: to they know they know all the things that you
Speaker 6: need to know. And them two together can really like
Speaker 6: you know, they can play good cop back together, they
Speaker 6: can do all the things.
Speaker 5: And I do think.
Speaker 6: That I think it's a little bit more than work friends.
Speaker 6: I think they're work friends, and I also think they
Speaker 6: do they do rock with each other. But I would
Speaker 6: think that my good friends would be at my wedding.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of people miss.
Speaker 2: The weddings show Go ahead, Claudia.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of missing of weddings on the show.
Speaker 6: I don't know, be hard for me to call that
Speaker 6: person your close friend, But I do think it is
Speaker 6: definitely is convenience, a relationship of convenience. But they do actually, like,
Speaker 6: you know, they fuck with each other, but I would
Speaker 6: not call them great friends.
Speaker 5: If they're fond of each other, maybe that's what the
Speaker 5: gap is. They're fond of each other, which is.
Speaker 8: Like a step further than Yeah, I would agree to
Speaker 8: that for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, before I let you guys go, Dustin Ross,
Speaker 3: you were called to the carpet during the weekend. So
Speaker 3: rain Drops, as you all know, Dustin Ross has a
Speaker 3: lot of strong opinions and sometimes my rain drops.
Speaker 2: Love to post it. And not only did they love
Speaker 2: to post it, they love to tag people because there's
Speaker 2: a difference.
Speaker 8: All right.
Speaker 3: So with that being said, over the weekend, k Michelle
Speaker 3: responded to a tweet and this is what the tweet was.
Speaker 2: Someone tweeted that.
Speaker 3: I'm watching, well, let me cite my sources rated Drew
Speaker 3: d r U. I'm watching Carlos King recap of the
Speaker 3: last episode of Atlanta Housewives with Klaualia, Dustin and Blue
Speaker 3: in full I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: Doesn't kind of clocked Cay Michelle.
Speaker 3: He basically mentioned how came Michelle's spoke from Shmia's mother,
Speaker 3: but recognized how Shamiah talking about Porsia's mom was crossing
Speaker 3: a line. He also said Cay Michelle is willing to
Speaker 3: cross boundaries with Shemiah that she's unwilling to cross with Portia,
Speaker 3: basically pointing out that Cay Michelle lass respect for Shamim.
Speaker 3: Somebody retweeted that and said pointing out speaking of mothers
Speaker 3: was such a good point at Ky Michelle Kim and
Speaker 3: Cherf responded.
Speaker 2: Fuck all of y'all.
Speaker 12: All okay, I love you, baby said, fuck all of y'all,
Speaker 12: all these ridiculous big pieces.
Speaker 3: Her mama shouldn't have been in no club talking shit
Speaker 3: about nobody and trying to inform her daughter an alliance
Speaker 3: and the hookah lounge past midnight. I don't care if
Speaker 3: her tip was over her shoulders. I didn't do it
Speaker 3: or say a word. It was brought to me and
Speaker 3: four random Africans at a table. I'd be minded my business.
Speaker 2: What's going on, dusting? Do you have any thoughts to that?
Speaker 8: Hmm?
Speaker 7: I said everything I had to say in the first
Speaker 7: damn place, so I don't even give a shit personally.
Speaker 7: And she wasn't talking to me, to be clear, she
Speaker 7: was responding to the rated Drew guy or whatever. You
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying so I think he's the one
Speaker 7: that needs to pick his middle finger up.
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: She wasn't speaking to me, and again it's commentary, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, whatever, But I just wish she
Speaker 7: would say those.
Speaker 8: Things in the moment.
Speaker 7: And really all she did was confirm what I was saying,
Speaker 7: because she in her response disrespected the shit out of
Speaker 7: Shmia and her mama right there in the response. So
Speaker 7: it just proves the point that I was originally making anyway,
Speaker 7: And hopefully we get to see some of that energy
Speaker 7: at the reunion. I'm looking forward to the reunion because
Speaker 7: I want to see what ky Michelle got. I want
Speaker 7: to see how she shows up and pulls up to
Speaker 7: the reunion, you know what I'm saying, holds that first
Speaker 7: chair down. We'll see if some of the spirited energy
Speaker 7: and the spirited nature of her responses on Twitter, if
Speaker 7: that transcends over into her on television at the reunion.
Speaker 8: But it was funny to me she was sitting up
Speaker 8: somewhere with that.
Speaker 7: Jack Daniels and uh some sheet music with country music
Speaker 7: on it, Gary and sang us home and you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, And she's seen that ship on Twitter
Speaker 7: and got to type in and it was funny to me.
Speaker 8: I think that that is an honor almost you know
Speaker 8: what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: That's something A point that I made that was valid
Speaker 7: inspired a response from her. I think that's great and
Speaker 7: shout out to Monday Night Live, shout out to all
Speaker 7: our rain drops that watch us and circulate the valid
Speaker 7: points that we be making. I think this was a
Speaker 7: great thing for all of us. So I'm happy to
Speaker 7: be keeping it real.
Speaker 6: So basically, I said, what the fuck I said, already
Speaker 6: displaced anger?
Speaker 5: He said, it is displaced anger.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know what I'm saying, like it just yeah,
Speaker 7: you know, uh, well you gotta pack?
Speaker 5: Oh snap, I do.
Speaker 2: Okay, so listen, let her know your thoughts on.
Speaker 4: Thank you, fran I'm about to miss this fight.
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