1
00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,920
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast presented by by Star Credit

2
00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,480
Speaker 1: Union with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome

3
00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,119
Speaker 1: in to this week's Ozone podcast. And uh, you know,

4
00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,560
Speaker 1: I won't even delay while I'm excited about this guest.

5
00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,160
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars tight End Evan Ingram. Evan, you were in here,

6
00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,240
Speaker 1: I think it was May, right after your first signed

7
00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,080
Speaker 1: and we were just talking before we came on the

8
00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,520
Speaker 1: air how much it's changed in six or seven months.

9
00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:41,720
Speaker 1: And I guess what strikes me is you do intro interviews,

10
00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,720
Speaker 1: which that was when we sat down for this podcast,

11
00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,680
Speaker 1: and you sort of talk about how it might be,

12
00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,760
Speaker 1: and it seems like for you, for the team so far,

13
00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,000
Speaker 1: this I guess has to have exceeded your expectations on

14
00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,760
Speaker 1: how well it could have gone. For sure. I was, Uh,

15
00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,440
Speaker 1: it's it's actually just looking at it just been a

16
00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:06,640
Speaker 1: crazy arc um and crazy like kind of a roller coaster.

17
00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:12,560
Speaker 1: Um you know coming in Uh, just just completely new scenery, UM,

18
00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,360
Speaker 1: new personnel, new people. Um that we're very welcoming. That

19
00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,160
Speaker 1: made it very easy. Um and uh, but it still

20
00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,720
Speaker 1: was a lot of adjustment and um you know going

21
00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,360
Speaker 1: into spring, um, just still new new offense, new coaching

22
00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,720
Speaker 1: staff here. You know what I mean, it's a culture

23
00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:36,120
Speaker 1: change that was beginning, um under Doug and uh and

24
00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,080
Speaker 1: and what Doug and Trent we're building UM. And then

25
00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, the beginning of the season was promising. We

26
00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, we win two out of three, uh, and

27
00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,160
Speaker 1: then we hit this really really tough skid. Um that

28
00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,000
Speaker 1: what we're learning so much where we're getting close. You know,

29
00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,480
Speaker 1: we're we're looking in the mirror, we're trying to get better.

30
00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,760
Speaker 1: We're trying to finish these games. And then um, as

31
00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,040
Speaker 1: soon as really as soon as you know, people started

32
00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, counting this out again. People were saying that

33
00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,160
Speaker 1: this is you know, the same old Jacksonville Jaguars. Uh.

34
00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, we we figured it out, and you know,

35
00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,560
Speaker 1: we're we're still not done. We're still not there. But UM,

36
00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,919
Speaker 1: it's been it's been a very crazy art. I tell

37
00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,000
Speaker 1: every every chance I get, UM, I say how blessed

38
00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,040
Speaker 1: I am, UM, just to you know, be in a

39
00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,240
Speaker 1: situation like this, be on a team like this that

40
00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,920
Speaker 1: has been through so much but are still fighting for

41
00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,200
Speaker 1: their life and you know, fighting and sacrificing everything, um

42
00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,240
Speaker 1: to you know, to finish the job. And you know

43
00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,400
Speaker 1: it's Saturday night is creeping up on us. We're right,

44
00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,120
Speaker 1: we're ready to go. I've been around a lot of teams,

45
00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,680
Speaker 1: and I've been around been around a light of Jaguars

46
00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,680
Speaker 1: teams that have been two and five, two and six,

47
00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,919
Speaker 1: and they say the same things you guys did. Hey,

48
00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,799
Speaker 1: this isn't over yet. Our goals are still in front

49
00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,880
Speaker 1: of us. And then and the season ends, and and

50
00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,720
Speaker 1: the goals weren't reached. What do you think it was

51
00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,520
Speaker 1: about this team? And again, I'm not saying the season

52
00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,799
Speaker 1: is over because but you've played your way into such

53
00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,040
Speaker 1: a special opportunity. What was it about this team? He

54
00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,000
Speaker 1: was able to do that? From that? Uh, basically a

55
00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:12,320
Speaker 1: depth at two and six. Um, none, none of the

56
00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,280
Speaker 1: nobody on the team quit like, um, nobody was, you know,

57
00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,600
Speaker 1: ready for it to be over. I've been I've been

58
00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,360
Speaker 1: in this situation. I've been in that situation many times

59
00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,519
Speaker 1: over the five years I've been in the league. And um,

60
00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,760
Speaker 1: some of those losses were just like heartbreaking and backbreaking,

61
00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,280
Speaker 1: and um, you know there's a there's a shift in

62
00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,600
Speaker 1: the locker room that can happen in a very negative way.

63
00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,120
Speaker 1: And uh, that's when you that's when you start seeing

64
00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,760
Speaker 1: disconnect and that's when everything really starts slide down hill.

65
00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,000
Speaker 1: There was zero percentage of that in this locker room.

66
00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,800
Speaker 1: UM and I and I give credit to the guys,

67
00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, the even the young guys that really haven't

68
00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,280
Speaker 1: learned their way into the league, and then the guys

69
00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,720
Speaker 1: that have been around something like that, UM give credit

70
00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,160
Speaker 1: to them. But the coaching staff, Doug and UM just

71
00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, their energy throughout through that adversity. UM never

72
00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,320
Speaker 1: wavered either. So UM just and it was a culture

73
00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,480
Speaker 1: that you know, that that that we bought into that

74
00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,280
Speaker 1: kept us going. And I asked you about Doug in

75
00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,640
Speaker 1: a minute, but it strikes me that something you just said,

76
00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,279
Speaker 1: by this team sticking together, the free agent class that

77
00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,680
Speaker 1: you were a part of, I've been around a lot

78
00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,200
Speaker 1: of free agent classes that by the end of the

79
00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,200
Speaker 1: season you feel like, Okay, this guy just doesn't fit this,

80
00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,680
Speaker 1: this didn't work. And you've seen it. You've been in

81
00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,560
Speaker 1: the NFL where free agents come in and it's just

82
00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,480
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work. Almost none of that with this class,

83
00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,280
Speaker 1: and guys not only that, have become leaders yourself. Christians

84
00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,039
Speaker 1: A Jones Foyer, I guess do you guys feel that

85
00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,159
Speaker 1: as well. And how was it that you were able

86
00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,400
Speaker 1: to fit in so quickly and become the core of

87
00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,479
Speaker 1: the team. Yeah. I think if you really dive deep

88
00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,880
Speaker 1: into every you know, definitely every free agent, UM, you

89
00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,600
Speaker 1: know signing of the class, every single one of us

90
00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,800
Speaker 1: had a chip on our shoulder. UM. You know, we

91
00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,599
Speaker 1: we had something to you know, prove to ourselves mainly

92
00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,800
Speaker 1: UM and uh and obviously and obviously proved to this

93
00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,560
Speaker 1: organization that that gave that given us opportunity. UM. I mean,

94
00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,800
Speaker 1: look you look at Christian Who's who has been a

95
00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,960
Speaker 1: who has been a I mean a dynamic weapon in

96
00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,279
Speaker 1: this league since he entered it. Um just got his

97
00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,640
Speaker 1: first thousand yard season. He's been close all his career.

98
00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,000
Speaker 1: And and you know what the headlines were saying when

99
00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,360
Speaker 1: when we when we signed him. And then you look

100
00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,240
Speaker 1: as a the same same thing, UM coming in and

101
00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,839
Speaker 1: having a hunt and fifty yard games and posting three

102
00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,640
Speaker 1: touchdown performances. Um. You know, nobody ever saw that happening.

103
00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:44,240
Speaker 1: And then four years the league leading tackler, UM two

104
00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,720
Speaker 1: years in a row, really shoot probably three he's been

105
00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,600
Speaker 1: up there, and UM, and still there's dollars so like

106
00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,760
Speaker 1: I just think everybody that came in, UM had a

107
00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,400
Speaker 1: chip on our shoulder. And uh and we that's I

108
00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,920
Speaker 1: feel like that's how we connected. UM. And and even

109
00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,840
Speaker 1: though I still here had a chip the shoulder. Uh.

110
00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,040
Speaker 1: You know. And again I give credits a the Doug

111
00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,279
Speaker 1: and the coach and staff to what they came in

112
00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:11,560
Speaker 1: and brought. UM. It just ignited everybody's motivation for sure.

113
00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,719
Speaker 1: And once you know, once we felt that structure, once

114
00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,280
Speaker 1: we felt um, you know what what they're trying to

115
00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,520
Speaker 1: build here, UM, culture wise, scheme wise, UM, it's you know,

116
00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,680
Speaker 1: everybody was it was. It was easy to buy you.

117
00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,760
Speaker 1: I had asked you this, I think in the locker

118
00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,960
Speaker 1: room a couple of weeks ago, and it was something

119
00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,760
Speaker 1: you discussed to several people. There was the game where you, uh,

120
00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,520
Speaker 1: you caught the pass and all of a sudden, Day

121
00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:39,560
Speaker 1: and Christian are blocking for you. Uh yeah. Now it's

122
00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,880
Speaker 1: pretty rare to have a tight end catch a pass,

123
00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,279
Speaker 1: and and and and the lead blockers of the wide receivers.

124
00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,159
Speaker 1: But it's something that you and I talked about, the

125
00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,640
Speaker 1: selflessness among the receivers on this team. UM. I think

126
00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,560
Speaker 1: a lot of receivers say they are part of a

127
00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,279
Speaker 1: selfless room, but to actually be part of a office

128
00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,200
Speaker 1: receiver room, is that pretty rare? Yeah, it's And like

129
00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,920
Speaker 1: I said, it's it's it's the character of those guys, like, yeah,

130
00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,480
Speaker 1: it's it's really rare to see that, because I mean

131
00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,640
Speaker 1: they almost laughed when I asked him, you have been

132
00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,360
Speaker 1: a part of it before, and he's like, yeah, yeah,

133
00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,880
Speaker 1: you don't see it. You don't see it. But just

134
00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,360
Speaker 1: it's just who they are. Like I can't even I

135
00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:22,960
Speaker 1: can't even give you sit here and try to give

136
00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,400
Speaker 1: you this schematically, you know that the offense is built

137
00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,360
Speaker 1: like it's just who they are, and they empty the

138
00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,000
Speaker 1: tank every single player. Um, and they when they're giving

139
00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,480
Speaker 1: a job, they're going to do it. And uh and

140
00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,160
Speaker 1: that's that's that's why this offense is so successful. And

141
00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,040
Speaker 1: that's why it's we're once we're clicking, we're hard to

142
00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,640
Speaker 1: stop because you know, anybody could could blow the field

143
00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:52,000
Speaker 1: up and everybody's everybody around that performance is bought into

144
00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,240
Speaker 1: the role and bought into executing their job. And um,

145
00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,960
Speaker 1: you know that it's just wherever however the dice falls, Um,

146
00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,320
Speaker 1: that's that's who's gonna have a big game. But I

147
00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,360
Speaker 1: think I think, I think we're still just scratching the

148
00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,640
Speaker 1: surface as offense. So um, it's nothing but just the

149
00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,760
Speaker 1: character of the guys in in that room and that

150
00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,640
Speaker 1: in the entire offensive room. Um, Um, top down, you

151
00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,640
Speaker 1: came here, I think when we talked in May and

152
00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,520
Speaker 1: now when you were on the podium talking in your

153
00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,840
Speaker 1: intro pressor the big reason he came here was because

154
00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,280
Speaker 1: it dug not only because of how he used the

155
00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,000
Speaker 1: tight ends, but because of what you had heard about

156
00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,560
Speaker 1: him as a coach. Um. I assume he's lived up

157
00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,760
Speaker 1: to everything you can imagine in terms of setting a culture,

158
00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,920
Speaker 1: setting a turnaround. Just talk about him a little bit. Yeah,

159
00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,600
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing um for me, uh, that

160
00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,720
Speaker 1: you know I noticed about Doug was how he responded

161
00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,760
Speaker 1: in the most of her times of the season. Because

162
00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's been in locker rooms that have

163
00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,760
Speaker 1: disconnected before. I'm pretty sure he's been in locker rooms

164
00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,599
Speaker 1: that even as a player like and like he no

165
00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,600
Speaker 1: the slippery slopes of struggles in the season. Um, and

166
00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,680
Speaker 1: so I think that obviously helps him um a lot,

167
00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,319
Speaker 1: you know, in these situations and along his successful career

168
00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,319
Speaker 1: UM as a head coach, UM, that's you know, that's

169
00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,679
Speaker 1: what stood out to me just as soon as you know,

170
00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,200
Speaker 1: as we were kind of on that skid. Uh. You

171
00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,640
Speaker 1: know it was I was very observant and um of

172
00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,760
Speaker 1: just the people around me and myself, UM, and of

173
00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,440
Speaker 1: our coaching staff and Doug and I mean, uh, just

174
00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,240
Speaker 1: never quitting. Just just uh, just things that you know

175
00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,320
Speaker 1: we could listen to and here um and know that like,

176
00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,160
Speaker 1: all right, we we we have a head coach that's

177
00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,400
Speaker 1: that's still fighting for us, that's still fighting for himself,

178
00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,880
Speaker 1: for his family, for his for his loved ones. And

179
00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,480
Speaker 1: like I think I think that's the biggest thing that

180
00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,680
Speaker 1: we all felt, especially especially myself. So UM, I think

181
00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, you can really uh you know, you can

182
00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,360
Speaker 1: really um in this league. You you can judge a

183
00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,440
Speaker 1: man on how he comes to work when when tom's

184
00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,960
Speaker 1: are really tough. And you know, Doug was was the headman.

185
00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,600
Speaker 1: He was an ultimate leader with full with optimism, with

186
00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,360
Speaker 1: compassion um for love of the team UM and motivation

187
00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,640
Speaker 1: and hunger and that that just you know, that just

188
00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,400
Speaker 1: jumped out to us in that team meeting room UM

189
00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,360
Speaker 1: and even on the field. So when it started clicking,

190
00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,640
Speaker 1: you can and you can feel that motion through him too.

191
00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,880
Speaker 1: That you know that, Uh, that that that hard work

192
00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,320
Speaker 1: paying off for him too, and like that's that's that's

193
00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,120
Speaker 1: just the mark of a great leader and a great

194
00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,160
Speaker 1: team team builder. Um, you came here and you were

195
00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,520
Speaker 1: very public about it that you wanted to be here

196
00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,080
Speaker 1: because of how he used tight ends. Uh. It certainly

197
00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,319
Speaker 1: seems like that has lived up to everything you thought.

198
00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,880
Speaker 1: Um this offense tight end friendly or is it just

199
00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,680
Speaker 1: friendly to people who catch the ball? I think it's

200
00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,480
Speaker 1: I think it's both. I definitely think it's both. Um

201
00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,040
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, Doug Is obviously has a history

202
00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,559
Speaker 1: of um, you know, having a tight and friendly offense. UM.

203
00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,120
Speaker 1: But I mean just the offensive minds that that are

204
00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,439
Speaker 1: around him, UM have I feel like I've created another

205
00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,080
Speaker 1: another level to it. Um and uh, and they're not

206
00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,040
Speaker 1: just it's not just an offense that can get tight

207
00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,960
Speaker 1: ends involved. It's an offense that could that could exploit um,

208
00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,120
Speaker 1: their tight ends best attributes. Um. They you mean you

209
00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,200
Speaker 1: look at you turn on Chris man Hurt's film. Um,

210
00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,600
Speaker 1: they put him in perfect positions to execute the best

211
00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,520
Speaker 1: thing that he used at And that's that's in the

212
00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,240
Speaker 1: run game. That's that's that's um. That's doubles blocking. That's

213
00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,400
Speaker 1: that's base blocking. That's that's tag block. That's man handling.

214
00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,719
Speaker 1: D N. You turn on Chris manher film, he's man

215
00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,719
Speaker 1: handling grown men um and you you turn on you

216
00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,000
Speaker 1: turn on my tape. I'm getting the ball in space. Uh,

217
00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,480
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's underneath stuff. It's it's misdirection, stuff, motions.

218
00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm just putting the defense in the bind um and uh,

219
00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,080
Speaker 1: you know they're using my speed, they're using my explosiveness.

220
00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,559
Speaker 1: You're not man handling grown man out there. Hey, I'm

221
00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,400
Speaker 1: you turn on the table. I'm in the ring game too.

222
00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,480
Speaker 1: Not I'm not on Chris Marhos level, but I'm definitely

223
00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,720
Speaker 1: taking notes and getting something. You're taking some pride in

224
00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,640
Speaker 1: this year always I've always taken pride that and even

225
00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,520
Speaker 1: even that, they've put me in positions to where I

226
00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,200
Speaker 1: can be successful in the run game. They're not gonna

227
00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,200
Speaker 1: put me somewhere where they know and this is not

228
00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,040
Speaker 1: even strong suit. Let's throw him down there and then

229
00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,640
Speaker 1: have him lead block on on his own, uh scheme,

230
00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,880
Speaker 1: and like they don't. They put me in great positions

231
00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,240
Speaker 1: and and then that builds confident. So when they do

232
00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,680
Speaker 1: when they are kind of ready to graduate me to bigger,

233
00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,920
Speaker 1: bigger opportunities are bigger, UM task in the run game,

234
00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,960
Speaker 1: I have more confidence and and that's been the biggest

235
00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,440
Speaker 1: thing that's grown. I'm over the season, just my confidence.

236
00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,559
Speaker 1: So it's easy for a coach to come in and say, well,

237
00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,559
Speaker 1: tight End should be able to do X, go do it,

238
00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,600
Speaker 1: but to actually see where the strengths are. They are

239
00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:51,240
Speaker 1: very meticulous from where they are putting Um their talents

240
00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,840
Speaker 1: at use um and I think you know and even

241
00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,359
Speaker 1: and even Dan and Luke, I mean Dan is um.

242
00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,120
Speaker 1: Dan pops off, pops on the screen, pops up on

243
00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,280
Speaker 1: the screen every time he entered the entwer of the game.

244
00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,520
Speaker 1: U every every opportunity I feel like he's gotten this year.

245
00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,000
Speaker 1: He's made a big play UM. And then you got

246
00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,280
Speaker 1: Luke Fair that comes in and is learning so much

247
00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,240
Speaker 1: under Chris and and and really observing Chris's role. And

248
00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,520
Speaker 1: Lucas are strong due to Lucas has made a lot

249
00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,480
Speaker 1: of great blocks this year too. So UM, I think

250
00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,520
Speaker 1: we have just have a really dynamic room and they

251
00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,160
Speaker 1: understand our our talents and what we're good at, and

252
00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,400
Speaker 1: they put us in the positions to do that. I

253
00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:26,959
Speaker 1: had asked you in the locker room a couple of

254
00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:32,160
Speaker 1: weeks ago about Trevor's progress, and your response to me

255
00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,640
Speaker 1: was that you were surprised, and you said, surprise it

256
00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,880
Speaker 1: took that long. But your point was you saw it

257
00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,160
Speaker 1: in this kid right when you got here, and and

258
00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,160
Speaker 1: you knew that you were going to see eventually. What's

259
00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,800
Speaker 1: going on now? What made you so confident when he

260
00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,240
Speaker 1: was struggling a little bit early and what's the ceiling

261
00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:57,080
Speaker 1: for him? Uh? One his accountability, UM, you know he

262
00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,720
Speaker 1: uh when his you know, his his about his tough

263
00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,760
Speaker 1: days that he had. Um, he was you know, he

264
00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,880
Speaker 1: was very um open about looking in the mirror, how

265
00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,680
Speaker 1: can he get better? Um, not making any excuses um.

266
00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,280
Speaker 1: And showing up as the same teammate, as the same

267
00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,280
Speaker 1: leader every single day. UM. I was in I had

268
00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,040
Speaker 1: Eli for two or three years and it was a

269
00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,640
Speaker 1: rough time in New York for him at the end

270
00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,200
Speaker 1: of his career, which was really undeserving. And Elot was

271
00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,800
Speaker 1: the same man, same teammates, similar to every single day.

272
00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,200
Speaker 1: So once once I kind of got a gist of that,

273
00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,960
Speaker 1: I was like, he has the intangibles to be the

274
00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:42,560
Speaker 1: great leader that his talent um that his talent requires.

275
00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:49,240
Speaker 1: But I mean his talent is I mean it's special.

276
00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,720
Speaker 1: It's really special because he does he does things that

277
00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,520
Speaker 1: he makes mistakes and he won't see that mistake again.

278
00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,680
Speaker 1: He'll learn, he learns from his mistakes and um, and

279
00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,800
Speaker 1: he in My favorite part about his game is just

280
00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,240
Speaker 1: his swagger, like his confidence. Even in even in the

281
00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,200
Speaker 1: verse times that that he's had this year, Um, he

282
00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,400
Speaker 1: still had that swagger. Like every week, you know, he's

283
00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,560
Speaker 1: in control of the huddle. He's he's out there maybe

284
00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,560
Speaker 1: saying some comments to the other team, like he's gonna

285
00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,360
Speaker 1: let you know when we're driving down the field and

286
00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,160
Speaker 1: we're having fun, Like I mean you get you get.

287
00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,240
Speaker 1: You get a guy in the huddle leading a huddle

288
00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,760
Speaker 1: like that with that amount of talent um, That is

289
00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:35,000
Speaker 1: what just turned. I mean the sky is pretty advanced stuff. Yeah, yeah,

290
00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,920
Speaker 1: it's ah. And I mean what he went through last year,

291
00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, he he'll probably sit up here and not

292
00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,280
Speaker 1: making any excuses for everything that happened last year, but

293
00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,760
Speaker 1: I mean that was that was that was a rough

294
00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:53,760
Speaker 1: rookie rookie environment. So um, just all those combined um

295
00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,000
Speaker 1: and just you know, just the teammate that he is. Um,

296
00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,160
Speaker 1: I saw from the jump, but even through every thing

297
00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,800
Speaker 1: that we've been through this year, is it's really promising

298
00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,920
Speaker 1: for him, and um, it's still be mind blowing. He's

299
00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,240
Speaker 1: only twenty four and uh, he's because he doesn't carry

300
00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,480
Speaker 1: himself that way, not only talent when you talk to him,

301
00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,800
Speaker 1: he carries himself like yar quarterback. Yeah, not not at all. Yeah,

302
00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,160
Speaker 1: And I mess around about my age and I just

303
00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,120
Speaker 1: turned twenty eight, and I'm like, I'm getting up there

304
00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,200
Speaker 1: and i just know how much I've learned and how

305
00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,720
Speaker 1: much I've grown in the past four years. And he

306
00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,920
Speaker 1: still has all of that ahead of him. And how

307
00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,120
Speaker 1: fast he's growing now. It's, Um, the skuy's a limit

308
00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,800
Speaker 1: for him. And you know, you look around the league

309
00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,760
Speaker 1: at all the you know these young quarterbacks started at

310
00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,720
Speaker 1: the top of the game right now. Um, Trevor is

311
00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,960
Speaker 1: just getting started and he has um he has, if

312
00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,080
Speaker 1: not more talent than a lot of guys, a lot

313
00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,400
Speaker 1: of you guys in the league. Cause I'm sure you

314
00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,920
Speaker 1: saw Eli doing stuff in the huddle with the line

315
00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,960
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, changing stuff that you can only do when

316
00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,080
Speaker 1: you're thirty thirty five years old. Because you've seen it.

317
00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,520
Speaker 1: For Trevor hadn't hit that yet for sure, and he's

318
00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,920
Speaker 1: going to he's he's getting like he's already, he's already,

319
00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,760
Speaker 1: he's already. Uh, he's already entered that playing field. And

320
00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,640
Speaker 1: it's a lot of our big plays are when he

321
00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,080
Speaker 1: I see something and he you know, he's not afraid,

322
00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,359
Speaker 1: and and that coaches are doing a great job with

323
00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,640
Speaker 1: him too. Um So Uh, it's been fun playing with him.

324
00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,760
Speaker 1: It's been fun. It's been really fun working with him.

325
00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,000
Speaker 1: All right. So you gamble on yourself in the off season.

326
00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,520
Speaker 1: It's a big thing. I imagine couldn't have I'm not

327
00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,919
Speaker 1: talking contract with you, but I imagine the gamble on

328
00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,880
Speaker 1: yourself came up bout as big as it could. I mean,

329
00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:37,600
Speaker 1: you've gotta be ecstatic with the decision. Uh. I. I

330
00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,600
Speaker 1: just give glory to guy on that. Um he Uh,

331
00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,840
Speaker 1: he's brought me through a lot. And you know that

332
00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,920
Speaker 1: there was it was it was even um, there wasn't

333
00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,919
Speaker 1: any doubt for me coming in this year. It was

334
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,920
Speaker 1: just okay, like it's we got a nice little uphill

335
00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,320
Speaker 1: clomb um. And I just give credit to him and

336
00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,840
Speaker 1: and the people around me. Uh, just from my fiance

337
00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,480
Speaker 1: a UM, peace at home. Uh, my my trainers, UM

338
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,560
Speaker 1: in the off season that prepared me for this season.

339
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:11,160
Speaker 1: That my trainers that are preparing me through the season. UM,

340
00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,680
Speaker 1: my friends that are supporting me, my family that's supporting

341
00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,080
Speaker 1: me in the team, and my teammates. UM in the

342
00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,800
Speaker 1: organization top down. UM, I just I give credit to

343
00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, guide the people around me. And we're not done.

344
00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,959
Speaker 1: We're not done and uh there's still a lot more

345
00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,280
Speaker 1: work to do and a lot more fun to have.

346
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,680
Speaker 1: I know, you never know the future. So I'm not

347
00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,680
Speaker 1: gonna ask you the unfair question will you be here

348
00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,480
Speaker 1: next year? But how much do you want to be

349
00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,240
Speaker 1: a part of this going forward? Yeah? You know, I

350
00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,760
Speaker 1: I definitely feel like I've found a home. Um, and

351
00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,640
Speaker 1: I found uh something that is being built. It's it's

352
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,800
Speaker 1: it's being built on a very special, very good foundation.

353
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,160
Speaker 1: So UM, A lot of a lot of those things

354
00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,560
Speaker 1: out of my control and uh and you know that

355
00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,159
Speaker 1: that time will come. But UM, I really enjoy uh Jacksonville,

356
00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,480
Speaker 1: really enjoyed the organization. I'll enjoy the fan base. Cannot

357
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,880
Speaker 1: wait to see them Saturday night. UM, and how they

358
00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,040
Speaker 1: how they come and respond and show up for us. So, um,

359
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,560
Speaker 1: really special place and uh you know been some some

360
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,040
Speaker 1: really good prayers are being said about about the future

361
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 1: for sure. Actually the bigness of this moment on Saturday,

362
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,680
Speaker 1: I assume as the biggest game of your NFL career. Yeah,

363
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:27,680
Speaker 1: I you know, just talk about being involved with that.

364
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 1: How how I guess ready and excited? Are you about it? Yeah?

365
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 1: I mean if you honestly, if you probably asked me, uh,

366
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,959
Speaker 1: you know, how would I feel, um going into this

367
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 1: week at the big end of the season, with everything,

368
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 1: if with everything on the line, how would you how

369
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 1: would you feel? I would probably say, Oh, I'll be

370
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,200
Speaker 1: worked up, be nervous, you know, beat my emotions will

371
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,199
Speaker 1: be rising. Um. I really think we found we've we

372
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 1: found a really great process here in our in our preparation,

373
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 1: um and especially you know the over the last month

374
00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,439
Speaker 1: and there's a little run, there's run that we're on.

375
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 1: We found a great, great process to prepare for our

376
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 1: opponents and to prepare for these big games. And it

377
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 1: just it just takes all the the you know, the nervousness,

378
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 1: the the anxiety you know, out of the game we're

379
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 1: playing and we go out there and we we We

380
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 1: obviously have a job and we know what we has

381
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 1: to be done and it has to be executed. But

382
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 1: we're having fun, um, and we're gonna have fun on Saturday.

383
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 1: So we've had a great week of preparation and UM,

384
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 1: I just love the way the guys have showed up

385
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: this week. The energy, the focus, UM, and it's it's

386
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be a great environment for us

387
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 1: about and have fun and um and when the division

388
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: Championship the last thing we do on this I call

389
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: it the other Zone five. Your last binge watch? I know, yeah,

390
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: well last bene watched me and my fiance started game

391
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 1: and thrown from started finish. We've we've we've both seen

392
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 1: it before. It's a h it was it was, but

393
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 1: we mean we were we we flew through it. We

394
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 1: got through it. It was nice. Have you started on

395
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 1: a Yeah, they're all so. She she washed it before

396
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: we did that, and I wanted to watch through. Um,

397
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to watch through the full series of Game

398
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 1: of Thrones before the House of Dragons. So whenever the

399
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: off season gets here and we'll we'll run through House.

400
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 1: I got you. What's your pregame song? Pregame song. Uh.

401
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,239
Speaker 1: This this year has been Yeva's Heartbreak by Drake and

402
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 1: it's it's a very kind of slow, uh slow R

403
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: and B song, but um, it's kind of my meditation song.

404
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 1: I meditate, you know, you know, I think about some

405
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 1: of the people I love and before I got and play.

406
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: It's it's been a good routine from you. Best tight

407
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: end you ever saw, best titan I've ever seen, Tony Gazalez.

408
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 1: We came to Atlanta. I grew up in Atlanta, big

409
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 1: Falcons fan. Um and uh he came to Atlanta and

410
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 1: he started just watching him play, watching him and Matt Ryan, Uh,

411
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 1: you know, build their relationship and um and have success

412
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: on the field. Uh. Um, he kind of was he

413
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: would kind of, he's kind he kind of started my

414
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,479
Speaker 1: receiver tight end your dreams. So Tony Geason Man New

415
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: York Media. Good or evil? I'm not I'm not gonna

416
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: say good. I'm not gonna say evil. I think they're

417
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:31,959
Speaker 1: just very uh they're very antsy too. Uh gentic conclusions Yeah, perfect, perfect.

418
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: Who's most responsible for you being here? Yeah? My parents

419
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: for sure. Talking about your parents, what they've meant Toke? Um, Yeah,

420
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: we've as we've been through some We've been through some

421
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 1: stuff as a family. UM. And as as I've gotten older, UM,

422
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: I've realized some of the things that they experienced where

423
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: my sister and our kids, UM, that they're not easy

424
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: as parents. Uh. And unfortunately my parents separated when we

425
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: were at a young age, but it was a kind

426
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: of a mutual thing and they were still the greatest

427
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: parents ever. UM, but they both kind of went through

428
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: some things that you don't really understand until you become

429
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 1: of age as an adult. And UH, I would say

430
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: me and my sister have never noticed. UM, we never

431
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: we never longed for anything, We never felt like we

432
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: were missing on anything. UM. My parents are the two

433
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: greatest people in the world. UM. And just full of compassion,

434
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 1: full of love, full of sacrifice, and the way they

435
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: raised my sister and I. UM, just how beautiful of

436
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: the soul my sister has. And then I have a

437
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: beautiful person she is, and how impactful she is in

438
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 1: her own way. UM. And you know how I am

439
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: probably on carrying myself on the stage I've been blessed with. UM.

440
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: There there's just no shot. UM, there's just no shot

441
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: that I'm in the seat and my sister is where

442
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: she is without those two. Evan fantastic stuff in a

443
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: big week like this, I appreciate you kind and taking

444
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: time to do this under the fans appreciate it as well.

445
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: Thank you again for joining the ozone podcast my pleasure.

446
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.