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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Welcome back to the NFL Week three Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Flex on the Action Network Podcast. I'm Atthew Friedman, the

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Speaker 2: Sean Corner and Chris Ramon. Shawn is our director of

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Speaker 2: In this episode, we're breaking down the players at the

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Speaker 2: loathing Cowboys fan. Davis Maddock, an NFL contributor for Roto

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Speaker 2: Experts and host of the take Cast podcast, Davis, how

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Speaker 2: was week two for you?

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Speaker 1: Well? No longer self loathing Dallas Cowboys fan? Right, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to start wearing my romo jerseys out in public again.

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Speaker 1: I think I think I think we've officially reached the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the part well where I think it

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Speaker 2: can't last. It feels too good to be true. Sean Chris,

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Speaker 2: how was week two for you guys?

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Speaker 1: It was pretty good?

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Speaker 3: After last night? It was about break even. I don't

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Speaker 3: know why I bet on the Redskins on Sunday. That

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Speaker 2: Sean, how about you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much breaking and sportspelling dif us, but slightly

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Speaker 4: positive and player props. I feel like I've just been

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Speaker 2: Good week for me, and the player props. Obviously, you

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Speaker 2: get into this week, Davis. I want to get some

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Speaker 2: quick thoughts from you. Out of the two weeks of

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Speaker 2: performance that we have seen so far, who is one

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the biggest positive surprise has to be

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Speaker 1: for me, Calvin Ridley. He was a guy who was

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Speaker 1: He's got eight targets and back to back games, Atlanta

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Speaker 2: And then one guy you're kind of down on who's

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Speaker 1: I just have Mahomes and Dak switched basically just because

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Speaker 4: So he's coming out as number one for me. But you,

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Speaker 4: But I think he's just he's a lock for the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good point, really high floor though, Raymond, you have

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Speaker 2: What is going into your projections here with Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: The eight thousand touchdowns that Mahomes throws every single week

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Speaker 1: What goes into my model too, is you know, the opponent.

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Speaker 3: So you guys kind of mentioned it, you know, the

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Speaker 3: twenty one point favorite for the Cowboys over the Dolphins. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: Deck's efficiency is sky high, but it does kind.

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Speaker 3: Whereas Mahomes and Lamar Jackson either are essentially the two

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Speaker 2: I think the early story for this season is how

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Speaker 2: think the underrated early story to the season is how

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Speaker 2: Mahomes has not regressed at all at all, Like it

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Speaker 2: hasn't happened. Davis, What are your thoughts on Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: He is the best player in the NFL, and I

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Speaker 1: think that he's in the perfect marriage of scheme and talent.

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Speaker 1: Like Andy Reid doesn't really ask Mahomes to do things

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Speaker 1: don't see any especially after seeing how good Mkole Hardman

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about players that we are high

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Speaker 2: at the quarterback position this week?

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how contrarian this is going to be,

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Speaker 1: in this matchup against Carolina, Arizona has basically they just

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Speaker 1: we're going to see him go from being a back

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Speaker 2: I think he's actually playing somewhere close to his floor

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Speaker 2: also high on Kyler Murray. What are your thoughts there?

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Speaker 3: The spread areaid. Look is giving defenses problems just in

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Speaker 3: quickly another player, Jameis Winston. That Giant secondary, it has

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Speaker 3: kind of jump on Jameis Winston. It's been a rough

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Speaker 2: One guy I'm relatively high on, and I might adjust

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Speaker 4: So for me right now, Carson Wentz actually up in

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Speaker 2: All right, Davis at quarterback, who is someone you're relatively

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Speaker 1: Probably going to be Tom Brady, I guess, because I

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Speaker 2: Guy I'm low on is Cam Newton. I think he's

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Speaker 1: No, Yeah, I have to be careful how I phrase this.

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Speaker 4: So I think Lamar is for sure, you know, my

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Speaker 1: Just right now.

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen a negative game script this year, so

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Speaker 4: that could hurt him. We don't know yet, but I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, three hundred passing yard and one hundred rushing

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Speaker 4: You can tell the Labs models if he moves up

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Speaker 4: But I think I'm just you know, just choosing this

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Speaker 2: Right, Sean. Each week we talked about some player props,

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Speaker 2: and then when props are released each week, we compare

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Speaker 2: the props that are offering the most value. What are

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Speaker 1: So the first one is Patrick Mahomes passing yards.

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Speaker 4: I really don't think I could set this line high enough,

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Speaker 1: Three ten and a half over over.

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Speaker 4: Next up, I'm calling Audible do the late news before

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Speaker 4: Right now, I have it over under two fifty five

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Speaker 3: And I think we're starting to see quarterbacks kind of

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Speaker 1: He wasn't very efficient.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take the under as well, but I'm fairly

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Speaker 2: close to that line. Okay, let's talk about the running

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Speaker 1: I think you're missing a pretty obvious one there, and

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Speaker 2: Right, Sean I'd like your thoughts there on Dalvin Cook

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Speaker 2: He's not in our top three, but it wouldn't be

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And you know, going forward, I still think the

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Speaker 1: But I do think Alvin Kamara still has a case for.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Davis. Other than Dalvin Cook, who is a

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Speaker 1: On at running back, I think the biggest one has

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Speaker 1: I think probably my running back seven or eight this

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I agree, I aggressively have Eckler ranked

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, like I said earlier, I think this is

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Speaker 4: had his secon second straight game with a fumble lost

436
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Speaker 4: or Sean Penny look great. So that's not good for

437
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Speaker 4: his long term prospects. But short term he should not

438
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Speaker 4: be fifty nine hundred on DK. I think he's still

439
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Speaker 4: their workhorse. They're at home against the Drew Brees List

440
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Speaker 4: Saints this week, so I think it's gonna be a

441
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Speaker 4: run heavy game. Script So I still am investing in

442
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Speaker 4: Chris Carson in DFS, but you know, season long, there

443
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Speaker 4: is some concern there that and he could overtake him

444
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Speaker 4: the funbeling issues continue.

445
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Carson as a home favorite has smashed for

446
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Speaker 2: the past couple of seasons. Raymond, you have David Johnson

447
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Speaker 2: as a player that you are so relatively high on,

448
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Speaker 2: even though the Cardinals haven't really done much through the

449
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Speaker 2: running game up to this point in this season. What

450
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Speaker 2: are your thoughts on Johnson?

451
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, even with them not doing much, he's

452
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Speaker 3: getting into the end zone. I think his numbers were

453
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Speaker 3: a little bit kind of wonky last week because he

454
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Speaker 3: left the game at one point he got he like

455
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Speaker 3: injured his wrist and came out his arm was just

456
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Speaker 3: like hanging off for a second.

457
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Speaker 1: But then he came back in and was fine.

458
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Speaker 3: And then they've talked all week about kind of, you know, okay,

459
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Speaker 3: you know, we're getting all these yards, but we're not

460
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Speaker 3: scoring touchdowns. And on the one time they did score

461
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Speaker 3: a touchdown in the red zone, Dave Johnson just walked

462
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Speaker 3: in and they're kind of talking about, you know, using

463
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Speaker 3: him more in the red zone.

464
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Speaker 1: And that's how these things generally go. They generally even out.

465
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Speaker 3: And I just you know, he's on the field so much,

466
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Speaker 3: he hasn't been leaving the field much aside from that

467
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Speaker 3: injury that I think he is going to just pick

468
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Speaker 3: it up in the past game. If not in Carolina, Listen,

469
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Speaker 3: they gave up. They went Peyton Barber kind of sustain

470
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Speaker 3: you know runs for Tampa Bay. This is this is

471
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Speaker 3: not a good, uh defense in my opinion right now

472
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Speaker 3: against the run. They also got you know, kind of

473
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Speaker 3: run over by Malcolm Brown and Gurly in week one.

474
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Speaker 3: So I think David Johnson will be fine. And he's

475
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Speaker 3: still you know, right in that top you know, top

476
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Speaker 3: six seven range for me. You know, just kind of

477
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Speaker 3: a weird uh situation last week, Davis.

478
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Speaker 2: Who are you low on at the position?

479
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Speaker 1: Uh? You know, it's just it's not going to surprise anyone,

480
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Speaker 1: but it's it's the hyper fragile guys like Carrie On Johnson,

481
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Speaker 1: DeVonta Freeman, h James White, Just guys who really only

482
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Speaker 1: have one avenue to getting there. You know, if you

483
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Speaker 1: if you don't work in the passing game, can't love

484
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Speaker 1: you that much. If you're a running back who only

485
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Speaker 1: gets there via targets, I can't love you that much either.

486
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Speaker 1: And I think that guys like uh, you know, I like,

487
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Speaker 1: I think carry On is is like kind of a

488
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Speaker 1: popular guy. Now. He looked good against Los Angeles, he

489
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Speaker 1: had the one really nifty touchdown run. But just in general,

490
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Speaker 1: guys like that, I'm not going to be buying week

491
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Speaker 1: to week.

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Speaker 2: All right, Sean, it seems like one of those guys

493
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Speaker 2: is Sony Michelle. Really a one dimensional type of player,

494
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Speaker 2: just stuck to running the ball, no pass catching ability.

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Speaker 2: What are your approaches on him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you mentioned, he doesn't have a reception.

497
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Speaker 4: On the air, they kind of hinted that he's going

498
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Speaker 4: to be more involved in the passing game. That appears

499
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Speaker 4: to be a lie. He has another perfect game script

500
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Speaker 4: this week. You know they're twenty two point favorites, but

501
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Speaker 4: you have to think that they might take this as

502
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Speaker 4: a week to kind of preserve him a little bit

503
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Speaker 4: and not just run him twenty plus times again. And

504
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Speaker 4: you know he's able to pay off when he does score.

505
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Speaker 4: And last week, I mean, they brought in James Devlin

506
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Speaker 4: to almost vulture that touchdown. So if Devlin didn't get

507
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Speaker 4: in there, or if he did get him, then Michelle

508
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 4: wouldn't have had a touchdown. So he's just he's just

509
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Speaker 4: a low floor player at six K and he doesn't

510
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Speaker 4: really have much ceiling if he's not being involved in

511
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Speaker 4: the passing game. So I'm fully fitting him again at

512
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Speaker 4: six K and just hoping that they involve rexburk Head

513
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Speaker 4: and even activate Damian Williams ony of these weeks.

514
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Speaker 1: That's for preserve of Michelle's needs for the rest of

515
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Speaker 1: the season.

516
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Speaker 2: All right, Raybond, who are you looking to stay away

517
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: from a running back?

518
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Speaker 3: James Connor obviously one of them, and I actually I'm

519
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Speaker 3: going to disagree with with you guys here Chris Carson.

520
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Speaker 1: You know, I've been high on Carson.

521
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Speaker 3: All offseason, but I think that, you know, especially in DFS,

522
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: running back is so predictable that and I agree with Sean,

523
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Speaker 3: I think you just want to pay up because like

524
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Speaker 3: you can get this predictability in terms of the snap

525
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Speaker 3: rates and snap counts. In the bottom line is Chris

526
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Speaker 3: Carson played forty three of seventy nine snaps last week.

527
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Speaker 3: Seventy nine snaps is a ton of snaps for the Seahawks.

528
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Speaker 3: Usually they're in that you know, like low sixties range

529
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Speaker 3: as our most NFL teams, and I think the Saints

530
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Speaker 3: will try to play some ball control against them. So

531
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Speaker 3: I just don't want any part of a guy who

532
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Speaker 3: could miss, you know, thirty forty percent potentially of the

533
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Speaker 3: snaps when you could pay like one k more and

534
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Speaker 3: get you know, guys that are going to be in

535
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Speaker 3: there eighty eighty five percent of the snaps.

536
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Speaker 2: All right, Sean, I'm kicking it to you for our

537
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 2: player props.

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Speaker 4: All right, So first up, Dalvin Cook rushing yards. I

539
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 4: don't know if I could set it high enough for Davis,

540
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 4: but here we go over under ninety two and a half.

541
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Speaker 1: Big time, big time overs.

542
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Speaker 4: I mean, I bet sportsbooks are going to offer I'm thinking, like,

543
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Speaker 4: I don't know, eighty seven and a half for that.

544
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Speaker 2: I will take the under, although i know I'm being

545
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: a donkey there, but I'm I'm very close to that

546
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: line that you've said.

547
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Speaker 1: What are you doing, buddy, I'm going under?

548
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 3: Like that's that's not a donkey move at all, Like

549
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 3: it Dalvin Cook had a huge run.

550
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Speaker 1: He's had like he's had a long run.

551
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Speaker 3: Like if he doesn't have the long run, you know,

552
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 3: who knows what, Like he could get twenty one carries

553
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 3: and still go for like, you know, eighty yards a

554
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Speaker 3: normal running back day. So yeah, I think that one's

555
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: a little bit inflated for me. I have him a

556
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Speaker 3: few yards under on that, all right.

557
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Speaker 4: Next up Zeke Elliott, So this is an over underrun

558
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 4: his DK score this week.

559
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Speaker 1: I'm setting the line at twenty two and a half.

560
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Speaker 1: That's a lot of fantasy points. I would probably take

561
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Speaker 1: the under on that because there definitely is like a

562
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Speaker 1: scenario where a defensive touchdown kind of it would turn

563
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Speaker 1: it to Collard pretty early.

564
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Speaker 2: I'm actually I'm right around there. I'm going to take

565
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Speaker 2: the under, but just barely.

566
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Speaker 3: I'm taking the over without even factoring in like the

567
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Speaker 3: yardage bonus. He's already over on just Keuler PPR points

568
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 3: for me my number two running back.

569
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Speaker 2: This week, before we talk about wide receivers, let's check

570
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Speaker 2: in with Peter Jennings Akacs, M eighty eight, a two

571
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Speaker 2: time DFS World champion and co founder of Fantasy Labs. Peter,

572
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Speaker 2: I think the question on everybody's mind is how is

573
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Speaker 2: the Emmanuel Sanders Renaissance impacting you? Has your wife left

574
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Speaker 2: you yet? It's devastating Freedman.

575
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Speaker 5: To be honest, the guy has overcome the Andrew that

576
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 5: is still crippling me, and it's compoundingly bad because I

577
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Speaker 5: keep shorting him in DFS. I don't have him in

578
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Speaker 5: any season long, so every time he scores, it oves

579
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Speaker 5: my wife's heart and cost me money.

580
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Speaker 2: It sounds horrible all the way around. For Week three,

581
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Speaker 2: from a roster construction standpoint, how do you think you're

582
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: going to approach cash games and GPS?

583
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Speaker 5: There's a lot of value. There's some certain teams in

584
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 5: these ridiculous spreads. We're seeing historic spreads because of how

585
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 5: bad Miami is, and also New England.

586
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: Looks like an historic team.

587
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 5: Is a great team, So we have two ridiculous games

588
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 5: that you'll want pieces of.

589
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Speaker 1: But in cash I think a lot of people are and.

590
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 5: I'm going cheaper quarterback like usual, and maybe there's some

591
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Speaker 5: value tournaments and spending up.

592
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Speaker 1: We'll see. Obviously, the best.

593
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Speaker 5: Game of the week as a football fan is the

594
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Speaker 5: Chiefs Baltimore game, So if people want Mahomes and Lamar

595
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 5: Jackson in that game, that'll be another roster construction as well.

596
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: All right, at quarterback, you talked about potentially going cheap

597
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: in cash games. Who has caught your eye?

598
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like Winston Onz. Jamis is in the best

599
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 5: spot at home versus the Giants new quarterback, bad defense,

600
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 5: Jamis is gonna have a lot of opportunity.

601
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Speaker 1: I'm encouraged after last week.

602
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 5: I know he didn't have great fantasy stats, but he

603
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 5: was more efficient as a quarterback and now he just

604
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 5: gets a really bad defense.

605
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Speaker 1: So I'm buying Jamis Winston.

606
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Speaker 5: I think Carson Wentz is in consideration that same price range,

607
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 5: and outside of that, I would be spending up to

608
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott or Mahomes.

609
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 2: Some of the early talk in the week is give

610
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: me the indication that this could be a jam woman

611
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Speaker 2: type of week. Where are you at running back?

612
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably going to be that way.

613
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 5: I think Christian McCaffrey versus Arizona is going to be

614
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 5: one of the most highly owned players we'll see all season.

615
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 5: But it's really hard to fade outside of an injury.

616
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 5: It's just so hard to see him failing against this

617
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 5: Arizona team that plays so fast. It is so bad

618
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 5: defensively between Chris Carson's interesting, Nick Chubb, Austin Eckler is

619
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 5: still a great play even at seventy two hundred und DraftKings,

620
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 5: and you have a lot of other guys like Leonard Farnette,

621
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 5: Aaron Jones, Dalvin Cook. So it's a week where there's

622
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 5: a lot of really good value and you definitely want

623
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 5: to maximize your touches.

624
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: At wide receiver. Who are you looking at?

625
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: I think Keenan Allen.

626
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 5: We can be very confident he's going to get a

627
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 5: ton of targets and should perform well in this game.

628
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 5: At seven k you can look to the Eagles receivers,

629
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Speaker 5: you know, recording this year early in the week, so

630
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 5: once we have you know clarity on what's going to

631
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 5: happen in Philadelphia, there's going to be some surfire value.

632
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 5: Adler looks really good right now, depending on how things break.

633
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it pains me to say.

634
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 5: Also, a wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders is popping pretty high

635
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 5: at only forty eight hundred done DraftKings, He's seen a

636
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 5: lot of opportunity and has looked great for a couple

637
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 5: of weeks.

638
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: In the season long rankings that we've posted at Action Network,

639
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: there's not any consensus on who should be the number

640
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: one wide receiver this week just in terms of point scored,

641
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 2: whether it's Hopkins, Alan Jones, or Adams, maybe even Amari Cooper.

642
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: Where are you coming down on those guys, just in

643
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: terms of overall who you think might be the highest

644
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: scoring guy on the week.

645
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course I have a say. Amri Cooper devastated

646
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 5: about the Michael Gallup news game flow. It's interesting the

647
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 5: Dolphins are so bad that you know Dallas is going

648
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 5: to get points up. But there are some scenarios you

649
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 5: can see this being like a big Ze Kiellia game

650
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 5: where game flow doesn't work in a Marik Cooper's favor.

651
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 5: But I just think he's so talented with gall apout

652
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 5: should see additional targets early in the game. He's probably

653
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 5: my favorite guy, and of course that's.

654
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Speaker 2: On brand all right. Finally, at tight end, who are

655
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: you looking at?

656
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 5: This is the position I have the most conviction on

657
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 5: when all in on George Kittle and Travis Kelcey last week,

658
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 5: and I think I'm going to do the exact same thing,

659
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 5: specifically George Kittle.

660
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: It's been a very frustrating first two weeks.

661
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 5: As a George Kittle owner in all formats two touchdowns

662
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 5: called back week one. Last week, the forty nine ers

663
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 5: put up forty one points and George Kittle essentially does nothing.

664
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Speaker 1: He's by far the focal point of this offense.

665
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Speaker 5: He's still the most athletic guy at his position, and

666
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 5: at fifty six hundred, huge discount. I'm just going to

667
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 5: be really heavy on him, and Travis Kelcey is going

668
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 5: to be a great play every week as well, So

669
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 5: I'll be spending up at tight end.

670
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: If you had to pay down at the position, who's

671
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: one guy you might feel comfortable with.

672
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 5: People are going to be on Greg Olsen, which I

673
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 5: get thirty seven hundred going against Arizona.

674
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense.

675
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 5: I would pivot in tournaments to probably Howkinson again, I'm

676
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 5: a big believer in his talent at thirty five hundred.

677
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 5: I know, coming off a bad game, but I think

678
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 5: he's going to have some big spike weeks. Arizona Week

679
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 5: one might be one of his best performances just because

680
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 5: that's going to be an elite matchup. But I will

681
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 5: be buying his talent throughout the year in tournaments.

682
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Speaker 2: All Right, that was Peter Jennings with his DFS thoughts

683
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: for Week three. Right, let's shift to wide receivers, and

684
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: at the top of our rankings we have DeVante Adams,

685
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: Ode Beckham Junior, and Julio Jones. But really, I think

686
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: there are you know, five or six guys who could

687
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: justifiably be in our top three. Davis, who do you

688
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: have in your top three or at least who do

689
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: you have number one? Right now?

690
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: I have Julio Jones number one, DeAndre Hopkins number two,

691
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams number three, But I agree I think Odell

692
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: keenan Amari Cooper, Right, I think a lot of them

693
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: have arguments to be that high this week.

694
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I should say in our rankings at actionnetwork

695
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Speaker 2: dot Com slash Fantasy like, we don't have consensus on

696
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: the number one guy. So Sean, for instance, you have

697
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Speaker 2: Adams number one, I have Obj number one. In Raymond,

698
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: you have Hopkins number one. Sean, can you talk about

699
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Speaker 2: what's going into your projections specifically for Adams as the

700
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Speaker 2: number one guy.

701
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Speaker 4: Well, I will say it's early in the week, so

702
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 4: I haven't had a chance to look at too much

703
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: data yet. But you know, Adams is being boosted right

704
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: now by his touchdown odds, so I certainly think he

705
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 4: probably has the lower floor out of all these guys.

706
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: Keenan Allen probably has the higher floor. I'll be all

707
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: four of these guys, like you mentioned, could be number

708
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 4: one by the end of the week. I kind of

709
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 4: agree with David. I think Julio might be the highest

710
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 4: four ceiling combo guy right now. It does really seem

711
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 4: like they're abandoning the run, so he's going to benefit

712
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 4: from that. But it just so early on the weekend.

713
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 4: I have all these guys basically tied at fifteen and

714
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: a half points, so there could be some shuffling at

715
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 4: the top, but it's safe to say these guys are

716
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Speaker 4: all sort of in their own elite wide receiver one tier.

717
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: Raymond, you have Hopkins number one. What are your thoughts

718
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: on him relative to some of those other guys. Is

719
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Speaker 2: in the top three or four.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's really a week two week thing for me,

721
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: and it comes down a matchup. So this week I

722
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: had Julio number one, Odell number two, Hopkins three, I believe.

723
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: So you know this week, I think, you know, Beckham

724
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: tough matchup against the Rams. Their corners have been have

725
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: been very good and kind of funneling the football a

726
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: way from wide receivers. The Colts, Julio's going up against them,

727
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: same same idea.

728
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: They play that that cover three.

729
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: They tend to like drop back and keep things in

730
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: front of them, but that also funnels the ball way

731
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: from wide receivers. They had the lowest schedule adjusted wide

732
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: receiver target rate in the league last season, per Football

733
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Speaker 3: Outsiders data.

734
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Speaker 1: So you know, those two.

735
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Speaker 3: Guys drop a little and then Adams his if you

736
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: just look at his share of the catches it's been

737
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: in targets, it's been a little bit down in the

738
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: mattle floor offense to about twenty seven percent of the catches,

739
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: whereas he was usually up over thirty. The one guy

740
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: that hasn't fallen even with you know coming back still's coming.

741
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: There is DeAndre Hopkins still catching about a third or

742
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: more of Deshaun Watson's footballs, and you know, I mean

743
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: tough matchup as well with the Charges, But we saw,

744
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: you know, we saw what Ken Gaude was able to

745
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: do to them. I think they're the most vulnerable and

746
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: Hopkins has just had the securest floor of those top

747
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: four guys, so he's probably going to stay number one

748
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: for me this week.

749
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have OBJ number one, but I really wouldn't

750
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: argue with anyone else having someone else for ranked high.

751
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: As you mentioned Raymond, he does have a tougher matchup

752
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: against two pretty good cornerbacks there for the Rams. The

753
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: guy I have number two and so I should say

754
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: I'm much higher on him than anyone else right now

755
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: is Michael Thomas. I should say, I know I'm going

756
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: to adjust this down a little bit, but I think

757
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm still going to be relatively high on him this week,

758
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: in part because I think he is going to be

759
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: in a game where they're going to be throwing the

760
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: ball a little bit more than people might expect. And

761
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: I think what matters with Thomas isn't necessarily who is

762
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: throwing him the ball, but that he's just getting that

763
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: volume and I think he's going to continue to be

764
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: fed a lot of targets. So I'm relatively high on

765
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: Michael Thomas especially. I think Seattle's secondary is a little overrated,

766
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: so I think the matchup for him isn't as bad

767
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: as people might expect. Davis. Who is someone that you

768
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 2: were relatively high on a wide receiver, It's.

769
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: Got to be Dj Moore. He has twenty four targets

770
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: through two games. I think there definitely is going to

771
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: be a little bit of Cam backlash. We're recording this

772
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. He missed practice and there's a report about

773
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: his foot injury being worse than expected. Don't think Cam's

774
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: played particularly well and more has still been fine for fantasy,

775
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: especially full PPR formats, and I don't see anything about

776
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: that changing. And actually, more like one of his big

777
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: things that made him such an elite prospect was how

778
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: good he was after the catch, and we haven't seen

779
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: any of that against Arizona, a team that inflates plays

780
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: ran against. I think this is about as good as

781
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: it's going to get for him.

782
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic matchup for him with Patrick Peterson out on suspension, Sean,

783
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: who are you relatively high on?

784
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: So right now I have aglare standing out and my

785
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 4: model he's super cheap at thirty six hundred. It looks

786
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 4: like al Seon Jeffery is going to miss this week

787
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: as he's doubtful, but DeShawn Jackson's questionable as well. Ertz

788
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: and Goddard or banged up. So if one of them misses,

789
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 4: he's going to be insanely chalk at that price. So

790
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a free square this week.

791
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: But the other guy is Calvin Ridley. Davis mentioned him earlier,

792
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 4: but you know, I'm buying into his hot start this season.

793
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: You know, we saw this last year. We had the

794
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 4: hot start and then he kind of faded. But you know,

795
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: he looks like he's in the middle of a year

796
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 4: or two breakout. I'm not sure we can call it

797
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 4: a breakout since he scored ten touchdowns his rookie season,

798
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 4: but we just have to remember he's turning twenty five

799
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 4: in a couple of months, so he's a lot older

800
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 4: than most your two players. He's roughly the same age

801
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 4: as Mary Cooper, so he's I think he's just peaking

802
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 4: earlier than most receivers. So I'm I'm buying into him

803
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: at fifty three hundred. I think he's way too cheap

804
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: right now.

805
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: Rayvon, who are the guys who have caught your eye

806
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 2: at wide receiver?

807
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: Well, I'm still I still got Sammy Wattin's top six.

808
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 3: You know, Patrick Mahomes' receiver highest over under the week,

809
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: look it. And for me, dk Metcalf, you know, he's

810
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: still under five k on DraftKings. I've been kind of

811
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 3: harping on the Saints corners and in all of our

812
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: Action Network content on the betting side in terms of

813
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: the biggest mismatches, whether mcmarshall Lattimore size wise not going

814
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: to be able to match up to him, PJ Williams,

815
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 3: Eli Apple talent wise not going to be able to

816
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: match up to him, and then you know, like a

817
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: really low guy, Demir Bird for the Cardinals. You know,

818
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 3: we thought maybe Crabtree or Keshawn Johnson would kind of

819
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: seize hold of that third spot. But with Crabtree active

820
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: and Bird was the guy who operated as that queer

821
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: number three, played a lot more snaps than those other

822
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: two guys, and he's kind of getting those easy catches.

823
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: So in PPR leagues. I think he's out there for

824
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: a speed.

825
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: You know, Kingsbury needs that kind of speed in his offense,

826
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: So he's like a bottom of the barrel, cheap guy

827
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 3: that I think you can look to as like a

828
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: GPP flyer.

829
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: Davis, who is someone you are relatively low on.

830
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: Well, there are there are a lot of guys a

831
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: wide receiver who the consensus likes more than me. One

832
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: of them is going to be Tyler Lockett because I

833
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: kind of agreed that Dk Metcalf does kind of look

834
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: like a unicorn, and I think that as things play

835
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: out over the rest of the year for Seattle, Metcalf

836
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: is going to be the number one. Lockett is going

837
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: to be more complimentary. And then also Steph Diggs and

838
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: Adam Feelin because if I'm saying, you know, Dalvin Cook's

839
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: going to get all this usage and I think that

840
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: Minnesota is going to hit their team total, that means that,

841
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: you know, one of those parties has to lose out,

842
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: and I think it's likely to be the wide receivers,

843
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: less likely to be Dalvin Cook. You know, they threw

844
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: ten passes in Week one. Ten passes.

845
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: Matt, I'm with you, on on Dason Dealan. Entering the season,

846
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: I was relatively low on them, in part because I

847
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: thought this passing game would take a step back and

848
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: really be subservient to the running game. And we've definitely

849
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: seen that. So I am with you there, Sean, who

850
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: are you relatively low on?

851
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: So for me, it's t Y Hilton.

852
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 4: He might look tempting at sixty four hundred, but you know,

853
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: after two games, I think he's been bailed out by

854
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 4: his three touchdowns. He's typically not a touchdown dependent player.

855
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 4: We usually, you know, lean on his yardage totals. I

856
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 4: think this week he's going to fail to score, so

857
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 4: people are going to be disappointed with his lack of yardage.

858
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 4: He's clearly the number one option for Brissette, but Versilla

859
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 4: has yet to throw over two hundred yards. And I

860
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 4: think this week at home against the Falcons, their slight favorites,

861
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 4: they're going to lean on Marlon Mack at the run game.

862
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: So I don't think he's worth sixty four hundred right now.

863
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hilton has average seven and a half targets per

864
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: week up to this point this season, which is not

865
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: really all that much in the grand scheme of things. Raymond,

866
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: who are you looking to get away from?

867
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: I didn't expect this to be the case, but Julian Edelman.

868
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: Antonio Brown's insertion into the lineup does hurt Edelman a

869
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: bit because you have White, and you have Burkhead, and

870
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: you have like there's always going to be a running back.

871
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: Even Matt mccoffs cut a couple passes for thirty three

872
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: yards and we saw Edelman, you know, four catches but

873
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: only four targets. I think another alpha like AB kind

874
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: of caps Edelman's ceiling a bit. So I have him

875
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 3: right outside of the top twenty, which doesn't feel great.

876
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: But the bottom line is Edelman's never been a big

877
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 3: touchdown score, so I think Edelman can get a little

878
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: downgrade as long as AB is active and on the field.

879
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: Raymond, I agree with you there, and I'm actually taking

880
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: the flip side to that coin in that I'm also

881
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: relatively low on AB pretty much for the same rationale.

882
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: I just think there are too many good receiving options

883
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: in that offense where everyone gets diminished just a little bit. Sean,

884
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm kicking it to you for the props, all right.

885
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 4: So I'm men to be nominating the two wide receivers

886
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 4: that lost their QB last week. So first up as

887
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: Michael Thomas receiving yards eighty and a half, I.

888
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: Think I like the under there, I am going over.

889
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: I still think he's going to get his targets, even

890
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: if he's less efficient with a different quarterback. I still

891
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: think the target ball game is what carries him.

892
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: I have him just under, I have him at seventy

893
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: nine yards and I'm going under because Michael Thomas is

894
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: a guy who I think you're right, Freeman, I think

895
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: the target volume doesn't matter. But what was this that

896
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: on one last week like ten for sixty nine. That's

897
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 3: entirely possible this week with Briggwater who just doesn't and

898
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 3: this has been to it'ch my issue with him just

899
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: going back to even Minnesota doesn't really push the ball

900
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 3: down the field. So they're going to just have Thomas

901
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: running the underneath route so that he can get the ball,

902
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: or if he's running deeper routes, I don't know if

903
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: he gets the ball enough. So like, I think there

904
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: are multiple avenues for Thomas to hit the under, and

905
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: we have seen Seattle kind of when they they can't

906
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: scheme against like certain number ones, they took away Dealin

907
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: and Diggs last year. Juju didn't have a huge game

908
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 3: against them either last week.

909
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 2: Not to contradict your point, sixty nine yards would have

910
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: been nice last week, but it actually was eighty nine,

911
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: So okay.

912
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: But like what ten catches though? Right?

913
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, he's a tough one, but I don't think

914
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 4: he's as tough as.

915
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: The next guy. Juju Smith Schuster.

916
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 4: He's at San Francisco this week, and right now I

917
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 4: have his over under at seventy two and a half

918
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: yards over.

919
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm going under under on seventy two. That's so disrespect Yeah,

920
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: that's what my model has them five yards under. Look

921
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: at the expectations.

922
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: I say that for a lot of guys as we're

923
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: doing this week to week, Like Juju, we've had high

924
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 3: expectations for he's gone under.

925
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: I think you have to be conservative with Rudolph.

926
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 3: So I still have Juju getting about a quarter of

927
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: the of the targets and catches, but the yard is

928
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: just not not quite there until we see.

929
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: More out of Rudolph.

930
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 2: I'm super conflicted on this, but even in I would

931
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: say like poor performances so far, he's had seventy eight

932
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: and eighty four receiving yards, so I think I am

933
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: going to take the over here.

934
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: How many yards do you guys have Mason Rudolph throwing for.

935
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 4: I've met like two forty five.

936
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: I know from what I projected him for, which is

937
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: like seven point one YPA, it will be pretty close

938
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, I haven't met two forty one.

939
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: But I think the big thing for me is Ben

940
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: Roethlisberger was completing about twenty six and a half passes

941
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: per game, and I don't think you can kind of

942
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: lock Rudolph in for that. So like the chances, like

943
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: the variance just increases with jusual when like instead of

944
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: getting twenty five percent of like twenty seven completion, he's

945
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: getting twenty five percent of maybe anywhere you know, the

946
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: week average is about twenty two, so anywhere from twenty three,

947
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: So anywhere from like twenty two to twenty five. I

948
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 3: think it's kind of you know where he's in, which

949
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: which does lower his you know, sailing floor.

950
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to tight ends. At the top. We

951
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: have Travis Kelce, George Kittle, and Evan Ingram sneaking in

952
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: as the number three guy, replacing Zach Ertz. Davis, where

953
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: are you on the top three?

954
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: I mean, zach Ertz for me, clearly is a worse option.

955
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: I think Kelsey Kittle Ingram is the new big three

956
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: A tight end, though, I would say Ertz might have

957
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: a chance to squeak back up there this week because

958
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: Deshaun Jackson and al Seon Jeffrey are both questionable, and

959
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: then we're looking at him dropping back to his rates

960
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: from last year, which are not the season long expectation,

961
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: but they might be the expectation for this loan week.

962
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 2: That's where I am. I have ERT's projected number two,

963
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 2: and a lot of it is because of that volume

964
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: that I'm expecting him to get with Alshon Jeffrey out

965
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: and potentially DeShawn Jackson out as well. Sean, you have

966
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: Kelsey Kittle Ingram as your top three. In Ravon you

967
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: have exactly the same thing. So I think we can

968
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: just move along to the guys that you are relatively

969
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: high on. Sean, who do you want to talk about?

970
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 4: I'm spending up at a tight end this week. I

971
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 4: think George Kittle is going to have a bounce back game.

972
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: He's five point six K against the Steelers and the

973
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 4: Steelers just got drop two touchdowns on by Will Disley.

974
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 4: And then week one they faced the Patriots, who I

975
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 4: think their only active tight end was blocking tight end

976
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 4: Ryan Izoh, so don't look at their you know, per

977
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 4: game against tight end stats. I think Kittle is going

978
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 4: to have a massive game. He's going to bounce back big.

979
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: Their wide receiver situations in flux. So I think it's

980
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 4: going to help Kittle out. If you're in season long,

981
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 4: now's the time to buy law on Kittle if you

982
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 4: have an impatient owner. But yeah, I'm all in on

983
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: Kittle this week.

984
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: All right, Davis, who are you relatively high on despite

985
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, not playing a ton of snaps, not running

986
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: a ton of routes. My boy, University of Oklahoma, z own.

987
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews is my number five tight end this week.

988
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: I see no reason for him to, like, you know,

989
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: not be considered a fantasy starter. Certainly, he's not going

990
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: to score thirty fantasy points every week. But you'll notice

991
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram had the domination game in week one and

992
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: everyone was ready to say, okay this, this dude's ready

993
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: to go. And then Mark Andrews dominates two weeks in

994
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: a row, and people, you know they're still questioning it.

995
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. We all have him in the

996
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: top five here, I should say I'm very pleased that

997
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: I think I was the early adopter in the Marked

998
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: Andrews case. Raymond, who are you on this week at

999
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: tight end?

1000
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: The two guys that I'm looking at that kind of

1001
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: and this is a fluid situation week the week. You know,

1002
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: last week it was Andrews and Waller in a top six.

1003
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: This week I have Andrews five. My number six guy

1004
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 3: is Austin Hooper and then Greg Olsen number seven. So

1005
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: this comes down a matchup, you know, after those top

1006
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 3: five guys who I think volume efficiency is all there.

1007
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: Olsen playing the Arizona Cardinals got stomped by TJ. Hockinson

1008
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty over one hundred yards. Then it

1009
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 3: got stomped by Mark Andrews.

1010
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: Same deal.

1011
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: The play volume, the fact that Cam's not running, it

1012
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: all just adds up to Olsen getting more targets when

1013
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: Olsen's on the field. Ian Thomas just not playing, He's

1014
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: not running routes. Period Routes are important for tight end

1015
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: because the targets per route kind of evens out. It

1016
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: gets very predictive after you see a certain number of routes.

1017
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 3: That's why I think we've all kind of agreed that

1018
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: Mark Andrews is up there, even though he has a limited,

1019
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 3: you know, mount routes.

1020
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: It's just the share.

1021
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 3: And then Austin Hooper target the Colts with tight ends

1022
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 3: like every week because this team, if you look at

1023
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 3: the numbers going back to last year when eber Flues

1024
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: took over, they played cover three, they drop back in

1025
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: zone wide, receivers get lest targets. The tight ends will

1026
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: be the guys that come open. So Hooper's back up

1027
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 3: to seven ring on. I hear what you say about

1028
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 3: Greg Olsen. It hurts my stomach to think that I

1029
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 3: really want to invest in a guy who is that

1030
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: old and who hasn't really looked great for the past

1031
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 3: two seasons, but in which one or two I must admit,

1032
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: he has looked surprisingly Unwitten like, like he looks like

1033
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: he's basically been back to the guy that he was

1034
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 3: in the best of the days with Cam. It hurts

1035
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: to think that I should rank him higher than than

1036
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: some other guys. This might hurt too, too, because I'm

1037
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 3: also highest on Jason Witten at number fourteen. Listen, there's

1038
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: gonna be touchdown variants. It happens week to week. The

1039
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: Cowboys are you probably just for thirty four points? Jason

1040
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: Witton has a great shot at a third week in

1041
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: a row.

1042
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: I know, I just don't want to bet on a

1043
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 2: touchdown or bust.

1044
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: It really is touchdown or bust outside of these time

1045
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: up what seven?

1046
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: I mean.

1047
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 3: OJ Howard is splitting reps with Cameron Braid at this

1048
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: point and had to catch his game last week.

1049
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it really gets ugly quick.

1050
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I am sure that we're going to

1051
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: talk about Oj Howard a little bit more. In a

1052
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: little bit that is what we call a t's in

1053
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: the biz. Davis, who are you relatively low on TJ?

1054
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: Hawkinson? I think a lot of people were ready to

1055
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: write him up rest of the year tight end, you know,

1056
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: top twelve tight end. The truth is is that just

1057
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: a lot of dudes are going to have the best

1058
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: game of the year against Arizona. They are not interested

1059
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: in defending Alton and they are interested in running a

1060
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: lot of plays for me. Like I think guys like

1061
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, Tyler Eifert are going to be kind of like,

1062
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, more consistent weekly options than Hawkinson. So Hawkinson

1063
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: not a guy I will have in DFS or you know,

1064
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't have anywhere in seasonal, But not really interested

1065
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: in him at all this week for GFS.

1066
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: Last week, unfortunately, I was on TJ. Shawkinson and that

1067
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 2: did not work out for me. Tough, tough scene, Sean.

1068
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: Who are you relatively low on?

1069
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: For me? It's Vance McDonald.

1070
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 4: He's just way too expensive right now without Big Ben

1071
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 4: is forty three hundred, which is right around the same

1072
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 4: price as Mark Andrews.

1073
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are.

1074
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 4: Going to justify him this week because he did catch

1075
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 4: two touchdowns from Mason Rudolph last week, but I'm just

1076
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 4: off of all Steelers until we see sort of how

1077
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 4: it shapes out. And you know, last week I had

1078
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 4: a ton of Big Ben Vance McDonald's stacks, so it's

1079
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: pretty tilting to see Rudolph the one throwing touchdowns. I

1080
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 4: still think McDonald, you know, he's surprised us. He's he's

1081
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 4: been playing around ninety percent of snaps, so he could

1082
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 4: surprise us and he could still be a low end

1083
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 4: tight end going forward, but right now he's priced out

1084
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 4: like one of those mid tier one tight end. So

1085
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 4: I'm fading him at this price and hopefully we can

1086
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: jump back on when he's cheaper starting next week.

1087
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: All right, Raymond, what about you?

1088
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: I just had an epiphany. I'm just thinking about this

1089
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 3: Advance McDonald's situations. Dealers are playing like more four wide

1090
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: one tight end or like you know, just no running back,

1091
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: and I think that might have had an.

1092
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: Effect on Connor.

1093
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: But if Rudolph with Rudolph, they might go back to

1094
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: more traditional sets, which can actually benefit Connor's. That's just

1095
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 3: something I thought about in regard to Vance McDonald. But

1096
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 3: I think Jared Cook, for me, is a guy I'm

1097
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: low on. You know, no Drew brees there. I think

1098
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 3: the pass volume goes down. And despite see out of

1099
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: giving up those two touchdowns to Vance McDonald, I think

1100
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: they usually are a relatively tough team for tight ends

1101
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 3: to kind of get over against. They kind of hit

1102
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: him on a screen for one of those touchdowns and

1103
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: it was really shouldn't have no business going for a touchdown.

1104
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: It was just a great play by Rudolph and just

1105
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: kind of waited it out. So I think, you know,

1106
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: Jared cooked tough game last week. A lot of drops

1107
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 3: not playing too well. I think his stock only decreases

1108
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: with Tay Bridgewater under center.

1109
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: All right, Sean, let's talk about the two props here.

1110
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 4: Okay, So first up, we have Oj Howard fresh up

1111
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 4: Goosey game. Right now, I have his receiving yard over

1112
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: under at thirty five and a half.

1113
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 3: See, I'm still going over, even though I just kind

1114
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: of essentially slandered him because I still think, you know,

1115
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 3: when you look at his median of what you know,

1116
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 3: how many routes he has been ring, I still have

1117
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 3: them in that forty yard range. And again, this Giant

1118
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: defense is just abysmal. Maybe you didn't see the tight

1119
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 3: ends for Buffalo last week because they're not a really

1120
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 3: tight end centric team. But in Week one, Jason Wilden

1121
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: caught a touchdown, Blake jar windin't caught a touch I mean,

1122
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 3: it's just whoever the good players are, the good receivers

1123
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: are on a given team, they're going to exploit the Giants.

1124
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: I don't have any doubt that that Oj Howard will

1125
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 3: be will be back for at least this week in

1126
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 3: probably in the top ten tight end when it's all

1127
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: settled up.

1128
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take the over.

1129
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take the over. That's fine. Just give me.

1130
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: Let me be as short as possible on the New

1131
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: York Football Giants.

1132
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: All right, next up, as a guy, I don't know

1133
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: if I could set as a line high enough Mark

1134
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 4: Andrews at KC fifty six and a half.

1135
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't care what my projections say. I'm going over.

1136
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take the over.

1137
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 6: I have him under, so I'm going undertand I'm pretty

1138
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 6: snugly on the over there, but I'm probably wrong. Okay,

1139
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 6: let's get to the fantasy questions that we have gotten

1140
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 6: over Twitter. The first question here is from cap calculator

1141
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 6: Sean kicking it to you. Thoughts on Cam's injury status

1142
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 6: and how it impacts some of the other Panthers.

1143
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm not considering a downgrade yet. Will Greer might

1144
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 4: be able to maintain these weapons. You know, there are

1145
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 4: some throws or Cam. You know he had Curtis Samuel

1146
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 4: and a crossing round he threw behind him. It could

1147
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 4: have been a huge game. So Cam's accuracy issues have

1148
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 4: been a problem for the past catchers, and he's not

1149
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 4: a threat to run right now, so defense can just

1150
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 4: plan on that. So I think him playing less than

1151
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 4: one hundred percent is not good for the team. So

1152
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 4: if he's if his ankles causing him problems, I think

1153
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: they're better off of Will Greer, and I think it

1154
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 4: could help guys like Curtis Samuel. If they have a

1155
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 4: guy like Greer potentially more accurate than Cam, it couldn't

1156
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 4: hurt all.

1157
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: Right, Davis, here's your question from sports enthusiasts. How do

1158
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: you evaluate trades involving quarterbacks in super flex? Essentially what

1159
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: value do you get to quarterbacks relative to other positions

1160
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: intended twelve team leagues?

1161
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: So I would just think of it this way. Is

1162
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: this guy meaningfully different than Marcus Mariota? Because if you've

1163
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: played in any sort of two quarterback league, you know

1164
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota is the last dude who goes in the auction.

1165
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: He's the last dude sometimes in two quarterbacks leads, he's

1166
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: even out there on the wire. So if you think

1167
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: that dude is meaningfully better than Marcus Mariota, you can

1168
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: trade something of value for him, you know, a running

1169
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: back or a wide receiver that you know might start

1170
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: for you, or a tight end. If that dude does

1171
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: not make a meaningfully different medium projection Week tweek than

1172
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. Treat him like a tight end or whatever,

1173
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: like it just doesn't matter.

1174
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: Raybond. This question is from Darry Lavid nice name there

1175
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 2: over under six and a half games until Cam Newton

1176
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: retires to become a fashion designer.

1177
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: Over, but I likely, like Larry, thinking yeah.

1178
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: Over, but just barely Sean. This is from Big E.

1179
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 2: NFL have Lamar and Dak in a one QB league

1180
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: with deep inches, so most teams have two quarterbacks. Would

1181
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: you trade away Lamar or is he too valuable at

1182
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: that position?

1183
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 4: Well, first off, congrats for having those two qbs. I

1184
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 4: wouldn't try to just give away Lamar. You could definitely

1185
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 4: sell high, but you.

1186
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,479
Speaker 1: Want to getting a guy, don't trade Lamar. You're gonna

1187
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: attach yourself to one of the greatest fantasy seasons ever.

1188
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: Probably like don't like, don't be that guy.

1189
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 4: Well, okay, let's put it this way. You could trade

1190
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: away Dak, but yeah, like, if you trade one of

1191
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 4: these guys, you got to be getting like a legit

1192
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 4: RB two or a wide receiver to demand you know,

1193
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 4: a high return for these guys, because I think people,

1194
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 4: you know, somebody that has like Drew Brees or big

1195
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 4: Ben will reach for these guys, So I think selling

1196
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 4: high on Dak might be the way to go, because yeah,

1197
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 4: having one of these guys in our bench every week

1198
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 4: kind of sucks, But yeah, I would sell high on

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00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 4: Dak Cam Davis.

1200
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: This is from t Cam. Trade away Dj Moore for Kittle?

1201
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: I lost Hunter Henry.

1202
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like no, like and you're not going to hear

1203
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: anyone come on Amy podcast and be like love Dj

1204
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: Moore than me. Like, for example, I made a trade

1205
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: in the Rotal World Friends and Family League where I

1206
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: traded away Antonio Brown to get DJ Moore. But I

1207
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: think I would still do Dj Moore for Kittle just

1208
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: because Kittle really is like he's a league winner.

1209
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. He's a difference maker. Raymond.

1210
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: This is from Mike ke Football Micole Hardman versus DeMarcus Robinson.

1211
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: Who's the stronger play week to week while Heill is out?

1212
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 3: You know, I think right now it's probably Robinson by

1213
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 3: a hair, but I have them pretty much equal. I

1214
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: think it's going to very week to week based on

1215
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 3: who goes off the previous week, and the defenses will

1216
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 3: kind of hold in on that guy.

1217
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: But I'd say Robinson by a tiny bit.

1218
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: All right, Sean, This question is from Nathan Coleman. Basically

1219
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: within the ADP that we had entering the season, who

1220
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: are a couple of players who have moved up or

1221
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: down within the top twelve.

1222
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't do rest of season rankings,

1223
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 4: so this might be better for Davis. But off the

1224
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 4: top of my head, I think I would have.

1225
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey number one overall.

1226
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 4: I was kind of waffling between him and Barkley, you know, obviously,

1227
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 4: like Michael Thomas would probably follow the top twelve, Juju Smith, Schuster,

1228
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara would probably be a closer to the you know,

1229
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: outside of the top ten. But I think it's still

1230
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 4: relatively the same. I'm not overacting over two weeks, but

1231
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 4: I think, you know, guys like Thomas and Schuster I

1232
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 4: think took a big hit this week.

1233
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: All right, Davis, this is from Steven g. It seems

1234
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: like a Jambleman week at running back. How do you

1235
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: like the potential punts and cash like Devin Smith, Nelson

1236
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: Aguil or Greg Olson, James Washington.

1237
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: Well, Devin Smith is not one of them because he

1238
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: might legit see like two targets, but I think that

1239
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 1: there are guys like Randall Cobb, Nelson Agilo or maybe

1240
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: our Sega Whiteside even who do make like you can

1241
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: play Austin Eckler Dalvin Cook. The thing you're going to

1242
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: run into is the I actually think the optimal lineup construction,

1243
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: where like you're just running like pure optimals is not

1244
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: going to have any Chiefs or Ravens players in like

1245
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: a cash game team, and that's gonna feel tough, like

1246
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: so like you might have to do something non optimal

1247
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: to get like Watkins or In or something like that.

1248
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: Raybond. This is from Scott G. Has Kyler's floor been

1249
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 2: high enough to be an every week season long starter

1250
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: or is he still too risky? I know he's barely

1251
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 2: rushing the ball.

1252
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's absolutely high enough because he is barely

1253
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 3: rushing the ball. I mean he's on pace the throat

1254
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: for over five thousand yards.

1255
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: Let's keep this in perspective.

1256
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, Sean. This is from Heal Monster opinions on

1257
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: running back handcuffs for season long. I have Henderson Harris Hill.

1258
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: Should I be patient I win zero RB in the draft?

1259
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll address this in at RB tiers this week

1260
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 4: it's still the same list for me, but I will

1261
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 4: say a guy like Edo Smith is moving up. He's

1262
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 4: clearly Devonte Freeman's handcuff, but also he could leap Frogham.

1263
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 4: And whenever you have a running back like that that

1264
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 4: could actually leap frog the starter without an injury, that

1265
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 4: moves them up in my running back handcuffs rankings.

1266
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 2: Davis. This is from James Thompson. What are your thoughts

1267
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: on Larry Fitzgerald and Josh Gordon for the rest of

1268
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: the season in half PPR bys.

1269
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: I think that the range of outcomes with Antonio Brown

1270
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 1: and thirty four year old Julian Edelman are so wide

1271
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: that I definitely see some paths to Gordon being, you know,

1272
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: like a top twenty Fantasy wide receiver. And I just

1273
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: want Cardinals, right David Johnson, Christian kirklar Zeral, Kyler Murray.

1274
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: I want these dudes because I think they're going to

1275
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: get better as Kyler gets more reps under him, So

1276
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm in on those guys.

1277
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: Raymon. This is from Ben Murray. By the way, they

1278
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: commit of my longtime dynasty league shoutout, which San Fran

1279
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 2: wide receiver do you like this week? And does that

1280
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: differ versus the rest of the season.

1281
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 3: No, it's Deebo Samuel then Mark Eith Goodwin, Dante Pattis.

1282
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: He threw up.

1283
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 3: He threw more passes than he caught balls last week

1284
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 3: and he was healthy, all right.

1285
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: Sean Walmer's question here from Koulanberg, how big of a

1286
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: hit does Juju and Michael Thomas take relative to Sorry,

1287
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 2: he'll me rephrase that. How big of a hit does

1288
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: Juju and Michael Thomas take because of the loss of

1289
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 2: their quarterbacks?

1290
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 1: Both obviously take a big hit.

1291
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 4: I think Michael Thomas left, so like you've mentioned for me,

1292
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 4: I think he'll be able to maintain maybe low end

1293
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 4: wide receiver one value just based on volume alone.

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Speaker 1: And you know, hopefully Breeze will.

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Speaker 4: Be back in you know, six to seven games, so

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Speaker 4: he'll salvage some of that if if Breeze can return

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Speaker 4: to form, and he'll he'll be back to mid range

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Speaker 4: wide receiver one come Fantasy claff time. But you know

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Speaker 4: Juju is gonna be without big Ben all year, so

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Speaker 4: I think he takes the biggest hit is more of

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Speaker 4: a middling wide receiver two right now until we sort

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Speaker 4: of see how the chemistry between him and Rudolph is all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Davis? What content of yours should people check out

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Speaker 2: and where can they find it?

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Speaker 1: The Fantasy Football Workshop that comes out on Roto Experts

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, that is for Roto Experts subscribers. But the

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Speaker 1: Automatic Absolutes is a free DFS column on Daily Roto

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Speaker 1: that comes out on Wednesdays. Those would be the two

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Speaker 1: things and the take Cast of course.

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Speaker 2: Of course the take cast. Everyone be sure to follow

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Speaker 2: Davis on Twitter at Davis Mannick. You can follow Sean,

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Speaker 2: Chris and me in the Action Network app at the

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Speaker 2: Underscore Odds maker Chris Raymond and Matt f the Oracle

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Speaker 2: use the app to get real time odds and tracker

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Speaker 2: bets for free. That is going to do it for

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