WEBVTT - Bob Parsons

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<v Speaker 1>And so the next day we told all the troops

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to name the company GoDaddy dot com. And

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<v Speaker 1>they go, that's a terrible dame. Why would you ever

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<v Speaker 1>name a company that you know, we hate it? You

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<v Speaker 1>know so well, the deal was, we never found the

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<v Speaker 1>better name, and it's stuck. Yeah, And that was the

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<v Speaker 1>extent of my market research. Hi, my name is Bob Parsons,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm here to tell you I'm the CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>PxC dot com and I want to remind you that

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<v Speaker 1>PxC nobody makes golf clubs the way we do. Harrian.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi everybody, and welcome to your favorite podcast and mine,

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<v Speaker 2>Off the Beat. This is your host, Brian Baumgartner. Today

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go way off the beat. Even for Off

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<v Speaker 2>the Beat, We're going off the beat outside of our

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<v Speaker 2>usual wheelhouse of factors and athletes. Today I am speaking

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<v Speaker 2>to an entrepreneur, a philanthropist, and well, my good buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Parsons. If you don't know Bob, Bob is many

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<v Speaker 2>many things. He's a great golfer, a decorated Vietnam veteran,

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<v Speaker 2>a motorcycle daddy, and yes he is a psychedelic crusader.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and by the way, the founder of some little

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<v Speaker 2>companies you may have heard of, like Go Daddy and

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<v Speaker 2>p XG. Now Bob is well, Bob is literally one

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<v Speaker 2>in a billion because he's he's the first billionaire that

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<v Speaker 2>we've had here on the podcast. Not not that anyone's counting,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't I don't think I could count that high. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna love Bob. He's a riot, he is sharp

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<v Speaker 2>as attack, and I think this conversation is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the wild sixths sas category with maybe just

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<v Speaker 2>a hint of trouble. But just in case, buckle up.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody here is Bob Parsons. Bubble and Squeak. I love

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<v Speaker 2>it Bubble and Squeak.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Bubble and Squeak.

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<v Speaker 2>I cook it every month, left over from the ninety before.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Bob, how are you doing there? Buddy? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you good? Good? I'm you know, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you have you done so much work?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? No, no, I haven't done any fucking work. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I've what I've done is I've drank some rum okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had some potato chips. And that gives me

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<v Speaker 1>the voice of an angel.

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<v Speaker 2>You're You're like me, Bob. You and I both we

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<v Speaker 2>have the voice of an angel. How how have you been?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you doing well?

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<v Speaker 1>Bryan? If I was any better, i'd be you baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's about right. That's kind of what I think

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<v Speaker 2>about when I think about you, just almost like me.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually did do some work in preparing for this

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<v Speaker 2>podcast on you. I want to talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about your growing up. You have said over time that

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<v Speaker 2>you grew up your parents were gamblers. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? They were, and they weren't very good.

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<v Speaker 2>At what what What kind of impact did that have

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<v Speaker 2>on you? Were you aware at the time that they

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<v Speaker 2>were gambling and not very good at it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, yeah I was. I was, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, I wasn't really aware of how very

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<v Speaker 1>bad at it they were, but you know, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>that knew they were gamblers. Uh Like you know, my mother,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, I learned how to read fraction. I learned

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<v Speaker 1>how to you know, learned about fractions from her teaching

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<v Speaker 1>me how to read the racing form, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, as clear as it was yesterday, her showing

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<v Speaker 1>me that eighth is really a bigger number than the sixteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, that's true. Do you think that that in

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<v Speaker 2>any way later in life is what helped your decision

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<v Speaker 2>to get into accounting and finance. Is there a correlation?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I would like to say there was,

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<v Speaker 1>but there wasn't. I mean, the way I got to

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<v Speaker 1>be into accounting was I got to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Baltimore by a program they offered to veterans.

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<v Speaker 1>Now keep in mind, I failed the fifth grade and

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't much better any other year. You know. The

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<v Speaker 1>only reason I graduated high schools because I joined the

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<v Speaker 1>Marine Corps was going to Vietnam, and my teachers took

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<v Speaker 1>pity on me. Right, So, I mean, my grades were

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to really write home about. So I was working

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<v Speaker 1>as a laborer at a steel mill, and I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>this at the University of Baltimore did for veterans. They said, look, you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as long as you've graduated or have a

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<v Speaker 1>GED and if you don't have a g D, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>help you get one. Right, you know, you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>all you need. Your grades don't matter, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to take any entrance exams, and you go on to

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<v Speaker 1>GI Bill Well to me, that's what I did. So

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<v Speaker 1>I went over. I went over there and I went

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<v Speaker 1>into the registrar's office and said, you know, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to college, and he goes, well, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to major in? And I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>you needed a major to go to Nobody in my

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<v Speaker 1>family ever went to college. I just thought you went

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<v Speaker 1>to college, right, So I then went He says, you

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<v Speaker 1>go see his counselor. While I went to see this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a line down the hall, ran another

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<v Speaker 1>hall around. If i'd have waited for this guy still

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<v Speaker 1>be waiting to see him, right. So I went back

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, I said to the guy at a registrar,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, anyway, I can pick my major, and goes sure,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a book of majors. I opened it up. First

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<v Speaker 1>major in the book was accounting, and I asked him

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<v Speaker 1>I said, uh, what is this? And he goes, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the county? He goes, well, are you good at Are

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<v Speaker 1>you good at math? I said yeah, reasonably, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>goes anything and he goes, I have you interested in

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<v Speaker 1>a business? Said I am, and he goes, well, probably

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<v Speaker 1>should take accounting. So I did, and luckily it was

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<v Speaker 1>a fortuitous choice because I loved it, right, and and

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<v Speaker 1>I graduated Magna cumb claude with a degree in accounting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so let me ask you, so, why do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that you were such a bad Was it? Was

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<v Speaker 2>it about applying yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Why were you such a bad student? Almost failed the

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<v Speaker 2>fifth grade, barely graduate from high school? And then you

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<v Speaker 2>know you suddenly you're Magna cumbloude from UNI of Baltimore

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<v Speaker 2>in accounting, Like what what was that? What was the change?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, a couple of things. First of all, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I was a kid in school today, I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>pumped full riddling. That's first thing. Right. They used to

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<v Speaker 1>give me these yellow it's yellow number two Taykonda Rogan

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<v Speaker 1>pencils and I would chew them down, baby, inside an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I have yellow paint all over my face.

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<v Speaker 1>I look like a rapid little beast, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>then and then that stuff at home, things were like nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it didn't make for me really focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on school. So I mean I just I managed to

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<v Speaker 1>squeak by. Now the Marine Corps. The Marine Corps focused

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<v Speaker 1>me and made all the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why I graduated and if you can't, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't see Bob right now, but he's wearing a shirt

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<v Speaker 2>on right now. This says US Marines attitude is everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. You're great love for the people, both passed

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<v Speaker 2>in service and and current service members. Your decision to

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<v Speaker 2>join was this because you didn't know what else to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Or did you have a particular passion and knew you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to pursue that? In high school?

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<v Speaker 1>Very few things have I done because I have a

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<v Speaker 1>particular passion. I'll tell you that right now. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've developed that after the fact. But in my senior

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<v Speaker 1>year I was I discovered alcohol and the opposite sex,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that really doesn't make you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really get you ready for the teens list. So

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<v Speaker 1>so I was not doing well and I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>I would even have enough grades to graduate. So I

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<v Speaker 1>had two guys come to me after gym class one

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<v Speaker 1>day and they asked me to say, what do you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you going to do after you graduate? I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll probably still be here, and I'll still be here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I want to graduate, yea, So they said,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you you want to go with us? We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go talk to the Marine Corps recruiter. All

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<v Speaker 1>three of us wound up joining And now this is

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty eight, and in nineteen sixty eight, and

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<v Speaker 1>then in nineteen sixty nine. I'll give you by comparison

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<v Speaker 1>to war in Afghanistan, the casualty rate there one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty a week, both sides killed them wounded. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>one is too many. I'll tell you that right now.

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<v Speaker 1>When I listed in the Marine Corps, that number was

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two thousand, seven hundred a week. Yeah, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't know. We didn't know that we were off

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<v Speaker 1>to have an adventure see foreign lands. So anyhow, when

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<v Speaker 1>I went ahead and managed to get accepted into the

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<v Speaker 1>Marine Corps, I showed my teachers my orders a report

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<v Speaker 1>to boot camp that August, and they all passed me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a lot of extra credit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to get extra credit for I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>reading a book or something. You got extra credit by

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<v Speaker 2>joining the Marine Corps. Wounded in Action while serving in Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 2>Recipient of the Combat Action Ribbon, Vietnam Gallantry Cross and

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<v Speaker 2>the Purple Heart. Is this the hardest thing you ever did?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and in many respects I would say, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it is. You know, being in in combat

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<v Speaker 1>is is very painful. The stuff you have to carry

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, very awkward and very heavy, which translates

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<v Speaker 1>to pain, and you get very little sleep to no sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just I mean it is. It is

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<v Speaker 1>every aspect of it's uncomfortable. I remember laying in those

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<v Speaker 1>rice patties at night with mosquitoes even as fite, even

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<v Speaker 1>though we you know, we had repellent chewing the shit

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<v Speaker 1>out of me. And then it's grizzly. I mean it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is grizzly, beyond your imagination. So it is not

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<v Speaker 1>a happy thing, that's for damn sure. But that's being

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<v Speaker 1>in combat.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the thing that you're most proud of in

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<v Speaker 2>your life?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think so, I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you you come back. You were injured in action? Now,

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<v Speaker 2>is that is that why you left?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No, no, actually actually actually in the Army Navian

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force, if you were wounded you could opt out

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<v Speaker 1>of combat in the Marine Corps three times. Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a fucking course, it is, of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Army Davian Air Force, our tour was

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<v Speaker 1>twelve months Marine Corps thirteen months. Ow fucking course, it

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<v Speaker 1>is right, oh Jesus Christ. So so any anyhow, I

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<v Speaker 1>I I what happened with me? Where I was walking

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<v Speaker 1>on a point team one night and I was walking

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<v Speaker 1>second to the point man, a real high stepping guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He stepped over a tripwire. I mean he didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pitch dark. He was just lucky. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not that high stepper. I hit the trip wire was

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<v Speaker 1>attached to a North Vietnamese hand grenade, which is best

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<v Speaker 1>I can determine. That thing blew and I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>tore up my legs and my left EBow, but it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a life threatening wound. So I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital in Japan, was there recuperating for a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when I healed up, when I was close

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<v Speaker 1>to healing up, I got orders back to the bush.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby God, yeah, my god. So on my way back

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<v Speaker 1>through a crazy series of events, get ready for this,

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<v Speaker 1>get ready for this, yere put the sea pelowin.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>I wound up in Marine Corps intelligence because my grades

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth, I was exactly the kind of guy

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<v Speaker 1>that was wow, and I was stationed on Okinawa and

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<v Speaker 1>and and what happened was I ran into a guy

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<v Speaker 1>on my last night there. Who I saved this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>life the first night in the bush helicopter with a

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was stunned from this guy being injured.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and and a matter of fact, chopper was

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<v Speaker 1>going to land on him. I've seen it. I ran push, push,

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<v Speaker 1>push push the chopper missus boats. We tripped over a

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<v Speaker 1>rice patty dyke in to that ship. But I saved

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<v Speaker 1>his ass and mine too, right. So uh, he was

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<v Speaker 1>wounded a couple of weeks later, and that was his

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<v Speaker 1>third wound. So he was stationed in intelligence and in Okinawa.

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<v Speaker 1>And I ran into him and he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you saved my life. I get your station here, And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, okay, you know you hear so much

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<v Speaker 1>bullshit in the military. Right, So when I fell out

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<v Speaker 1>from my flight to Vietnam to go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>rightful company, I had order of station to meet Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>and okaw, we got it done. So, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how that happened. It was just the right time, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Be in the right right place at the right time.

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<v Speaker 2>How how many years did you serve two well two.

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<v Speaker 2>Right you left. You talked about going to the University

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<v Speaker 2>of Baltimore and finding something that you were really good

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<v Speaker 2>in numbers and accounting and business. Your first business was

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<v Speaker 2>selling a home accounting program, money Counts. Now this is

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<v Speaker 2>before there were computers at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Well this is this is right at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Beginning of home computers. Did you use a computer with it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>of course I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I did. You know what I did? Was

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<v Speaker 1>I developed when I was in It was nineteen seventy five.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep in mindy IBM computer wasn't released until nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty, right, That's what I was thinking. So I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was working in accounting for this leasing company, Commercial

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<v Speaker 1>Credit Leasing, and they would send me different places to

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<v Speaker 1>just schedule the asset cities leasing companies they wanted to buy.

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<v Speaker 1>So they sent me to Redwood City, California and company

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<v Speaker 1>that did exotic cars. I scheduled it, and when I

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<v Speaker 1>was done, I had twelve hours left to kill between

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<v Speaker 1>when my flight was and the current time. So I

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<v Speaker 1>wound up on Stanford campus and I was like bookstores.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a bookstore and I bought a book

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<v Speaker 1>on programming in the Basic computer language. And I started

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<v Speaker 1>reading it while I was waiting for the flight, and

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<v Speaker 1>read all the salient points, and I wrote my first

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<v Speaker 1>computer program, won a flight. And it just so happened

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<v Speaker 1>that in my office we were owned by a company

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<v Speaker 1>called Control Data, which was one of the first computer companies, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had a terminal, a dumb terminal looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a teletype machine. There weren't even monitors then, and it

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<v Speaker 1>happened to run this basic computer language. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>finally got my program running. And then I started doing

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<v Speaker 1>that programming all the time if I could to make

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<v Speaker 1>my job easier. And when Apple two E was out

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<v Speaker 1>two C was out, bought one of those. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I bought an IBM PC, and unlike a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>if I wanted it to do something, I wrote the

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<v Speaker 1>code and I also studied the internals, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>to be really good at it. And so when I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a home computer program, and in nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to try selling it. That's the genesis of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's unbelievable, Bob. Did you get any Did you

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<v Speaker 2>have any in the military. You didn't. There was no

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<v Speaker 2>math or finance anything that you got there, right, this

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<v Speaker 2>was all the University of Baltimore and your own big brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. I mean in the military, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the Marine Corps. I'm pretty much surprised they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>using stone tablets. So what I got out it was

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<v Speaker 1>all manual. Baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeh, that's incredible. You sold Parsons technology to into it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>first off, do you think it was the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>you had fulfilling a specific need or the way that

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<v Speaker 2>your programs operated that made you such a big success

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<v Speaker 2>growing it from really a small business into this multimillion

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<v Speaker 2>dollar company.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, it was first of all, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even thinking about filling a need. I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about feeling a need for me for keep track

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<v Speaker 1>of my own finances. Okay, So that's how I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>that program called Money Counts. And it got to be

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<v Speaker 1>good because it was the only double entry system. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>else was single entry and you know, a little half

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<v Speaker 1>assed and so forth back at that time, and so anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, first of all, it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. It took me three years to learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to sell it, a lot of false starts, but I

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<v Speaker 1>put a total of forty thousand dollars into business, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wound up selling it for sixty four million.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's a pretty good return on that investment.

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's harder, bob making the product or getting people

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<v Speaker 2>to buy it?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say both. It's like it's like the angeline

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<v Speaker 1>in the gasoline. You know what's more important?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, you know today it would be the

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<v Speaker 1>engine or the electric assuming they ever fucking sell one

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<v Speaker 1>in them. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You retired a few for a few years after that

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<v Speaker 2>sixty four million dollar sale? Why why not stay retired?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? First, you know, I like you. I like golf. Okay, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I had a year where I couldn't Yeah, better,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little more than a year, but I had

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<v Speaker 1>a year where I couldn't do anything. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this agreement not to compete was I couldn't do anything, right,

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<v Speaker 1>shine a pair of shoes, and you know they had

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<v Speaker 1>a whole back, I'd forfeit it and so forth. It

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<v Speaker 1>was stupid. So so any anyhow, so what I did

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<v Speaker 1>was I started playing golf, and I moved to Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was and you know, if you're playing every day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the only guys you're going to play with.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the guys that are retired, right, I mean long retired, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I mean I'm like at the time, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>forty five years old and I'm playing with all these

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<v Speaker 1>old men every day. And see, Brian, I got to

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<v Speaker 1>learn certain things about him. There's a when when a

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<v Speaker 1>guy reaches a certain age, right, he's like a super senior.

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<v Speaker 1>He starts dressing in strange ways. You know, they look

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<v Speaker 1>like they look like they look like flags from other countries.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, what the fuck? You know, for Christmas, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to get you a mirror. But that's but that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they do, right, So uh, I you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>and at night, I wanted to be back in the game, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that that's why I came out of retirement.

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<v Speaker 2>You come out of retirement and you you started this

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<v Speaker 2>little business called go Daddy. I read that you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to call it Big Daddy. A warning to listeners out there,

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<v Speaker 2>don't go to big daddy dot com. That's very, very

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<v Speaker 2>different than go Daddy. It was formerly known as Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Macs Industries. You do domain web hosting became the largest

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. What was it about this company? What

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<v Speaker 2>what did you see before anybody else saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well here's here's you what I did. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when when I first started, I had I had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>I had.

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<v Speaker 1>I had like thirty six million dollars and I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I know the Internet is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the thing, so I need to find a way

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<v Speaker 1>to turn a buck on the internet. So so what

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I hired a number of very intelligent people

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<v Speaker 1>and we tried a bunch of different things, and what

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<v Speaker 1>the idea was, if it didn't work, we quit doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it did, then we keep doing it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>called a search fund. Very difficult way to make money. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we did a number of things. None of

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<v Speaker 1>them worked, but the only thing that gained traction was

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<v Speaker 1>we were doing websites for people and that worked. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that made money. So we had a number of people

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<v Speaker 1>ask us, do you have a product that I could

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<v Speaker 1>use where I could do my own website, And that

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<v Speaker 1>was the idea that came up with the genesis of

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<v Speaker 1>our product, website complete so people would do their own website.

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<v Speaker 1>Passed nineteen dollars and you know that sort of thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem was, it was a couple of problems The

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<v Speaker 1>first problem was there was so much noise from the

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<v Speaker 1>dot com boom that people didn't see us right and

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<v Speaker 1>and and the second the second thing was the name

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Max Technology. This kind of was very forgettable. So

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<v Speaker 1>me and my right hand person, a lady by the

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<v Speaker 1>name of Barbara Rectorman, we went to work and to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with a new name. And so after about

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<v Speaker 1>three days and nights, one of us says, how about

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<v Speaker 1>big Daddy taken? How about fat Daddy taken? And then

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<v Speaker 1>I remember to go command from AOL used to be

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<v Speaker 1>and type go disc go that, and I typed in

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<v Speaker 1>go Daddy available. So Brian, we bought it as a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>And and so the next day we told all the

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<v Speaker 1>troops We're going to name the company GoDaddy dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>And they go, that's a terrible fucking name. Why would

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<v Speaker 1>you ever name a company that you know? We hate it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? So well, the deal was, we never found

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<v Speaker 1>the better name, and it's stuck.

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<v Speaker 2>It stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that was the extent of my market research.

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<v Speaker 1>The name cost me nine bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's smart though I never thought. I never put that

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<v Speaker 2>connection together because it was with the with the old AOL,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course everybody had, and you know, initially, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that was my first email account and access to

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<v Speaker 2>the internet, of course was AOL that's very very smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Not surprisingly, that business was very successful. You get into

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<v Speaker 2>Go Daddy because you see the Internet as a possibility

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<v Speaker 2>and you want to make money. Now, my impression is

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<v Speaker 2>that after that, you decided to do things that you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do, things that were passion projects of you,

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 2>like motorcycles. You like to ride motorcycles, right, Bob, I do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So now you own motorcycle dealerships because that gives you joy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that an accurate statement? You started doing work for

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<v Speaker 2>things that bring you joy?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, you know I did. Yeah, and then and

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<v Speaker 1>then they eventually, uh after I got into the business,

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<v Speaker 1>said no longer brought me joy, okay, And then and

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 1>then we had to make it work. Now motorcycles. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what what I'm telling you, My dad told me, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid, I mean, when I started

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<v Speaker 1>my first business, he said, it is always going to

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<v Speaker 1>seem to you like the other guy's business is easier,

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>he says, don't you ever believe it. They're all tough.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I found that out about motorcycles. It took

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<v Speaker 1>me a couple of years to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Now we know how to do it. I

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<v Speaker 1>owned seven of them, right, But I have to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you before I shift away from going daddy, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a Twitter story.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, So here I am. This is This

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<v Speaker 2>is in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say about two thousand and six to thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I am selling a couple of three domain names,

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<v Speaker 1>the second right, and we got all these people that

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>are interested in Twitter handles, and we got this search

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 1>algorithm that is looking stuff up and so forth. So

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<v Speaker 1>I get the idea that man would be just as

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<v Speaker 1>easy for us to get a Twitter handle and sell

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<v Speaker 1>it for you know, offer it for whatever they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we ought to paying then pay Twitter half

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.119
<v Speaker 1>of that. And I mean they rack up a stack

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<v Speaker 1>of cash because they're giving them away now for nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, So, and I mean, I mean it's made them,

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<v Speaker 1>made them millions. So I go to them. We go

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<v Speaker 1>to them and talk to them and we tell them this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what they told us. We don't care about revenue,

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<v Speaker 1>really yeah, and that's what our men, Eli Musk found out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the fucking idiots are running the aside, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was like, well, have you told your

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>bank set? Yeah?

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Did you do it anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck? No?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, No, why why why would I do

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 3>that for them if they're not gonna even if they

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 3>don't want it, right christ And knowing them, they'd have

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:19.199
<v Speaker 3>probably sued me to stop me.

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<v Speaker 2>Right to not to not allow them to make money.

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<v Speaker 2>They would have sued you. That's crazy. I thought you

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 2>were going to tell me you were about to take

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 2>over Twitter. That's what I thought was going to be

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 2>the big news. But no, you just tried to No, no,

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 2>there's no way. I mean to me, I would be

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 2>like a grand to have symphilis, motorcycles, golf. Now you

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.160
<v Speaker 2>said it doesn't give you Golf still gives you joy,

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 2>right yeah, okay, but not motorcycles. Motorcycles.

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Motorcycles do too. I love them, I mean I just

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>love them, right yeah.

0:27:57.760 --> 0:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>But but not the business of it.

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Well no, I love the business of it because now

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>now I know it. But what I'm telling you is

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>everything is difficult, and so it took us. Took us

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>quite a while to figure out how to make money

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>with a motorcycle dealership. Now that we know I love

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>running it, take care of my customers like nobody else does,

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and it is it is a blast.

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 2>Uh you speak of golf. You bought one of my

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:29.120
<v Speaker 2>favorite golf courses in the world. It's Goottsdale National Golf

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Course and the founder, the grand Poobah of my favorite

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 2>golf company, p x G Parsons Extreme Golf, which well,

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 2>does it better than anybody. Has It made you fall

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 2>more in love with the game or just the business?

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You know, you know PHG. Yeah, I love the company.

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I love the operation, and we work all the time

0:28:56.120 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>on figuring out the best ways to do it. No

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>company has customer service like we do. And I believe

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>that our clubs are the finest clubs made in the industry.

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, you are putting your money where your mouth is,

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 2>unlike anything that has ever been done in the golf

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 2>world before. You just had the new Gen six clubs

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 2>come out and you are so caught. I love this

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 2>both about you and the company. You are so confident

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 2>that your clubs are the best of the business that

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 2>you have a contest now this August where you are

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 2>allowing people to come in hit their own drivers and

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 2>then hit yours and if their's wins, you give them cash, right.

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Bucks, Yeah, give them hundred bucks. Put on a master card.

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Done, MasterCard, one hundred bucks. If their own driver that

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 2>they own and are used to hitting outperforms yours. You're

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>that confident now. I was told by one of our

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 2>good mutual friends. You casually did this competition and out

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 2>of fifty eight times people came in to try to

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 2>get clubs or we're trying out clubs. Out of fifty

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 2>eight times, fifty five your driver won. Why do you

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 2>think that this gen six? What do you think you

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 2>have found now that even though they were great before,

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 2>what have you found now that has made them even better?

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, here's what I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>tell you again. We make the finest equipment in the world. Yeah,

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>that's the first time. Okay, hold that in your mind. Okay,

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>all right. The second thing, we have tested it against everything.

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>We're the tall hal get the crows, brother, that's the trunk. Yeah.

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>And the deal is it is not only the longest,

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the most forgiving, and it's the most accurate. Right, And

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>so you know the we won fifty five out of

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 1>fifty eight times, and we lost those three due to flukes.

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I can assure you.

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, you you you have said in terms of

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 2>putting your money where your mouth is, that you can't

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 2>win a farting contest unless you're willing to shit your pants.

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 2>And you you are. This is what I was told.

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 2>And you're you're, you're, you're entering this farting contest and

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 2>you're going against everybody.

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, you know I am, but you

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>know this particular farting contest. It's like like the tables

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.959
<v Speaker 1>in Vegas. You know, I know I'm gonna win, right right,

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>So so so bring them on and then the worst

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>they'll do is they'll get to hit a really good driver.

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Right. I love that. I love that you're doing this.

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 2>By the way, you famously there's no one more confident

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 2>than you. But here's the other thing. You make great

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 2>products that you don't. You don't have to worry about

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 2>your confidence because it always works, right Bob. Well, there

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 2>you go. You're you're at the ten year mark with

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 2>PXG and one of the things that you all do

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 2>you wait to release I mean ten years and this

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 2>is the sixth generation. It feels to me like all

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 2>the other golf companies come out with a new club

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 2>every six weeks or so, but you really take the

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 2>time and you and I have talked about this before,

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>where you really work on and research, do tons of

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 2>testing before you let anything go out to the market.

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. That's true.

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like and there's a lot of jealousy in the industry,

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll tell you that, Like we we have

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>a few competitors. One competitor for sure, who who I

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>won't name, your spreading ship lies about our equipment, you know,

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>because we have the thinnest face in golf and we

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>have an explosive core. Uh they say, well, that makes

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>it very inaccurate, you know, front the back and left,

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>the right and so forth. Actually, are golf dot Com tested,

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean every new club this year, are our irons

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>are the most accurate?

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, I mean so that did wrong? Whe that?

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 2>And uh so?

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>So anyhow, I mean, you know, like, for example, you

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>can cut a competitors club open and it looks like

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a dumpster inside. All right, Yeah, you know, you cut

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>ours open and it looks like a Marine Corps drill team.

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, everything is perfect. So, I mean, it's just

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's just the difference in what we're doing.

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 2>I have to talk to you about psychedelics, Bob. I

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>know when you returned from combat you suffered from PTSD.

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 2>First off, if you would talk to me a little

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>bit about your own experience and how psychedelics has helped you.

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, here's what happened before I went to Vietnam. You know,

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I had a pretty rough childhood, so I was carrying

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:38.839
<v Speaker 1>some of that. But I was still a pretty happy guy.

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Loved going places, meeting people, all those sorts of things.

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 1>But after Vietnam, the Bob that came back was very

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 1>different from the Bob that left. Bob that came back.

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>People would describe me as very intense. I had a

0:34:56.440 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 1>flash temper. I didn't feel like I got belonged no

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 1>matter where I was at. So I didn't want to

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 1>mostly be with other people. Uh, you know, isolation was

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 1>you know something that that I did, and I was.

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I was a pretty focused guy. Now, you know the

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>good side of all that is the way I dealt

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 1>with my PTSD. I buried myself in my work and

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>often I think if I hadn't had PTSD, would I've

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>been so successful? Yeah, I don't know for sure, I'd

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 1>have been a lot happier, for sure. And the other

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>thing is I cry every now and then, always when

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I was alone. I mean, a lot of depression goes

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:43.399
<v Speaker 1>with that. And so for sure cost me my first

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>two marriages. I mean, you know, both of them hungowners.

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>God bless them. They both hung on as long as

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 1>they could. And then finally they put a boot in

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>my ass and send me back. And I got cut

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:01.840
<v Speaker 1>from the team twice. And then when I met my

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>third wife, Renee Renee, Yeah, she turned out to be

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:12.839
<v Speaker 1>it's She's just a wonderful, wonderful person. It's the best

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>thing that ever happened to me. So she hung in

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>with me. In nineteen eighteen, I read Michael Collins book

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 1>called How to Change Your Mind, and it's all about

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a treatise one the Bible, one's psychedelics. And so

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I went to my wife and I said, you know,

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to try this, maybe it'll help me. Because

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>what happened was, over the years, PTSD didn't get better,

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:47.320
<v Speaker 1>got worse. And so she had me hooked up with

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:52.439
<v Speaker 1>a couple of guides in two weeks, and I met

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>with them and on the first day I took ayahuasca,

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know, there was a lot of talk, a

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of exchange, you know, the stuff that I was

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>dealing with and so forth. And at the end of

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of tears, a lot of tears. And

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>at the end of that, I still remember it was

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:23.399
<v Speaker 1>psilocybin or magic mushrooms. God said to me, I swear

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 1>to Christ, find this is true. I mean, I says,

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>no bullshit here. And I realized that it's like, you know,

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 1>it's just the same as putting your hand on the

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Bible when somebody talks to you. Right. So first he

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 1>made this this pot of tea, and he goes his

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 1>tea holds three cups and he goes, I really made

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>it strong. You're only going to need one cup, Brian.

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I drank all three cups and I ate the tea. Bags.

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh brother, I was on the roof. So so we

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 1>took him to revisited, relived a lot of stuff, and uh.

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 1>The next day I took off and he said, you

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>don't need a break, baby, And so I I taken

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>go play golf with Renee and we played and we

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 1>played nine holes and when I went out, it was

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>like the trees knew I was there, you know, and

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know, the leaves they all like, hey, Bob, hey,

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:36.360
<v Speaker 1>tell buddy. So I got to the green and the

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 1>greens told me where the butt? Okay, they told me

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>hit the but but I made so many long putts

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I never missed. I never putted that good in my

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>whole life. And so I went back and that was

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the third day. On the fourth day, it was LSD

0:38:57.600 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, and I mean and.

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>That was.

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>That was that was pretty that was pretty well. But

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 1>after I was done, you know, it's important to realize,

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, if I'd just took psychedelics for those three days,

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have changed much. Psychedelics with the right guides

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 1>does because you know, the therapy does the healing, the

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 1>psychedelics make it possible.

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 2>So the psychedelics open you up to be able to

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 2>discuss and go places that you would not if you

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 2>had not taken it.

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Is that right, exactly? And willing to accept change.

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right?

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>So after that, my wife noticed it, you know she

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's kept saying to me, man, you seem different.

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:53.920
<v Speaker 1>There's so much calmer and happier, and you know, willing

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to you know, even do some certain things, you know,

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>And when I got back to my office, the people

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>in the company goes, what the fuck is he out

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>at the bob? You know, I mean this guy, I

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 1>mean he is, He's complementary. He again so calm, you know,

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 1>he says such nice things, you know, and I mean

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 1>in the meantime, I mean before that, it was like

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 1>he's the most attense person I've ever worked it, right, Christ,

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 1>get him away from me. I mean even my son

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>told his wife, he said, you know, I'm worried that

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.719
<v Speaker 1>my father is going to die soon. She goes, Whye,

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>he goes, well, he keeps calling. He calls more than

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:39.320
<v Speaker 1>he ever did, and he's so nice to me. I

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>worry that he's found out he's going to die soon.

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>And he says change. Well, you know, I had to

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 1>set him straight, and we did. But it had been

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 1>forty nine years since the war and I finally came home.

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's awesome. I mean, had you had experience taking

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 2>these drugs recreate? I mean I don't even know. I

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 2>guess that's had you had experience with psychedelics previously without.

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>The door No, no, because you know, I believed all

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the standard boshit. I thought if I took LSD, I'd

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 1>climb up on a roof and jump off, thinking I

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 1>could fly. Well, you know that's not the case, right,

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:19.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, and so forth. So I would have never

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>taken them. But after I read Michael's book and I

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 1>understood that these things is what they're healing power was,

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>then I said, I'm on board.

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.800
<v Speaker 2>It's that's incredible. I mean, I was hoping that you

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 2>were going to say that, because I think that's the

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:39.759
<v Speaker 2>issue that we're dealing with right now. Right we have

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 2>something that may really be able to help people, particularly veterans,

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 2>people who are suffering with PTSD, either from the military

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 2>or something else, but there's a stigma attached that, you know,

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 2>makes people scared or or not able to use it.

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I have to tell you all this. I saw these numbers.

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 2>This is absolutely staggering. Bob and his foundation Bob and

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Renee Parsons, has given over fourteen million dollars to psychedelics

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 2>funding and total funding aimed at impacting PTSD. Bob one

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:25.280
<v Speaker 2>hundred over one hundred and nine million dollars. You truly

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 2>are putting your money where your mouth is and and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to help others who are dealing with the same

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 2>things that you have been. I that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I do that because I know how

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.799
<v Speaker 1>important it is. And I do it because I can

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 1>do it. And there's a there's a there's a saying

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 1>in the Bible to him who much has given, much

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>is expected. Yeah, and so we try to take that

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the heart. And I know that when the day comes

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:03.920
<v Speaker 1>when we fucking wake up and that, you know, we

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:08.320
<v Speaker 1>wake up and we know that, okay, that this stuff

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>is as important as it is. Like, for example, on

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.919
<v Speaker 1>the third field trials for m d m A, which

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>we help fund of hardcore cases, somebody being treated with

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:25.320
<v Speaker 1>md m A by a trained clinician or you know,

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the therapists, psycho psychologists, psychiatrists, after three sessions, sixty seven

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>percent are completely cured.

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Come on, is that that's incredible?

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:41.919
<v Speaker 1>Right? And and and so this is the third time.

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they don't ever have results like this, and

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 1>they're thinking about it, so you know, I mean, you know,

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.719
<v Speaker 1>they're you know, they got their steps that they have

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:57.320
<v Speaker 1>to do and and you know, and I understand and

0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I have no criticism of them, but uh, you know,

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 1>they have a lot of people that they got to

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>deal with politicians and to say the least. So they're

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:08.320
<v Speaker 1>working on it. But I mean, you know something some

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>of the crazy stuff. Crazy stuff is you know, there

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:16.800
<v Speaker 1>was there was an an initiative up in front of

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Congress to make uh to study marijuana for its it's

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 1>possible healing effects. And even though there was a lot

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:31.320
<v Speaker 1>of support for it on the Republican side, they voted

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>against it. And the reason they voted against it, and

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:37.279
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I'm not necessarily faulting them, I mean

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:39.399
<v Speaker 1>in a way I am, but I'm in a way

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm more faulting the process. Right, they voted against it

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>because it was introduced by a Democrat in the Senate. Now,

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>had it been introduced by a Republican, what a pass?

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's the way it's you know, our government works.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think it's noteworthy that you have chosen to

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:09.480
<v Speaker 2>not be an investor in these psychedelic therapies, that you

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:13.959
<v Speaker 2>have chosen to use it through your foundation to give

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 2>because you feel like people may not trust your story

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 2>and it adds credibility to your story. You feel that

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 2>passionately about this and how it can just plain help

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 2>people that you're willing to to not be an investor,

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 2>but to give Is that right?

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean you think about it. Let's say I'm

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 1>investing in psychedelics being approved. Well, I mean, you know,

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and this, I am not faulting at all people that

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:49.280
<v Speaker 1>invest in this stuff because we need them completely, because

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>they're the ones that will carry the day, right all right,

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:56.800
<v Speaker 1>But to just for we're right now at a stage

0:45:56.800 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 1>where credibility is absolutely important. And given the fact that

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I have no act to grind in it, I have

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.440
<v Speaker 1>no money to make in it. All I have to do.

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 1>What I get out of this is to be able

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>to sit back and smile and say, you know what

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I helped to this. That's it. One other thing in

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 1>my rifle squad, you know, I was, I was operated

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 1>on a squad level in Vietnam, and my squad we

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>were out on an ambush every night. And every night,

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, in Vietnam, they're no front lines, so we'd

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 1>go out a couple of miles and we set up

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.959
<v Speaker 1>in a little circle and the only safe place Brian

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:41.360
<v Speaker 1>was inside that circle. And so you know, the guys

0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I was with, you know, I mean, most of them

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 1>seen far more combat than I did. I mean, I

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:49.359
<v Speaker 1>was wounded after a month and I never went back

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 1>to combat. So, I mean, the guys that served so

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:55.440
<v Speaker 1>much more combat, seen so much more than I did.

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:59.800
<v Speaker 1>But squad leader and the machine gunner dear friends of

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 1>mine to this day. I fucking love those guys. They're

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 1>crazy bastards, but I love them. And so both of

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 1>them were carrying this PTSD cross. I got them together

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 1>and we went to another location. I had the same

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 1>GUIDs go through it with us that you know I

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 1>went through with them before, and I went through it

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:28.279
<v Speaker 1>again with them because to get them to do it

0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:30.440
<v Speaker 1>and both of them.

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 2>Come home, that's incredible, both.

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Of them, both of them, both their wives told me,

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:37.719
<v Speaker 1>he says, I mean, one of them said, you know,

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 1>he's now talking to his sons about the war. He

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 1>would never do that before. He's so relaxed. I finally

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 1>got my husband back, and I mean, and the other

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 1>one said the same thing, same thing. Yeah, So, Brian,

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:55.919
<v Speaker 1>the stuff works well.

0:47:56.040 --> 0:48:00.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, you're a veteran, you created a number

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 2>of successful businesses. But it seems to me that if

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 2>you can get this help get this passed, the use

0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:11.320
<v Speaker 2>of this uh these therapy is to help people that

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 2>truly need it. This uh, this could be your legacy?

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Will that be? Will that? Will that? Would that be

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 2>acceptable for you?

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I don't need a legacy. No. Once

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gone, baby, you know what, just flush the toilet.

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Well I hear along those lines, you signed the giving pledge,

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Is that right?

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I did. Yeah. My wife is the one that

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:40.960
<v Speaker 1>was really interested in that, so I signed that with her,

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 1>you know. And at the end of the day, what

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:46.879
<v Speaker 1>it says is that, uh, we're you know, we'll we'll,

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:51.399
<v Speaker 1>we'll give half of whatever we have to charity after

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 1>we're dead. And you know, after I'm dead. I'm a

0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty generous guy.

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, you're a pretty generous guy now. In twenty twenty two,

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 2>you gave a million dollars to to try to advocate

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 2>for people with PTSD. That's one million dollars every fourteen days.

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:20.839
<v Speaker 2>The trend is continuing this year. You're you're pretty damn

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:24.960
<v Speaker 2>generous now, Bob, and you're pretty damn good at what

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:29.880
<v Speaker 2>you do. God bless you. Thank you for being exactly

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:30.440
<v Speaker 2>who you are.

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 1>One little thing I'd like to point out that we

0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 1>do move a million to charity every fourteen days. But

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 1>it's to a combination of causes. Yeah, you know, and

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:46.759
<v Speaker 1>not not all of it is for PTSD, and so okay,

0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know we got we got a lot

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of other problems to Brian, I know it.

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 2>You give a lot to the Scottsdale area and other

0:49:55.920 --> 0:50:00.080
<v Speaker 2>important foundations around the world. Why stay in Scottsdale? What

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 2>is it about that area for you?

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I could live anywhere in the world,

0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and I choose Arizona. I think Arizona is one of

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:12.839
<v Speaker 1>the last great states. Yeah, it is hotter and shit

0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 1>in the summer. I love it. I can't be hot enough.

0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, it was hot for one hundred and ten

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>degrees for twenty three days. You know what. You know

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 1>it gets rid of people. I mean, and you know

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:26.879
<v Speaker 1>not so many people live there, right.

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:29.239
<v Speaker 2>I have to tell this story. I don't know if

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 2>you'll remember what the commercial was. The very first time

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I met you a number of years ago, I showed

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:39.719
<v Speaker 2>up at Scottsdale National Golf Club. And I mean when

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:43.440
<v Speaker 2>I say on the course, I don't mean like on

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 2>a cart path somewhere or out by you know, the

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:52.720
<v Speaker 2>restaurant in the middle of the course. There was the biggest,

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:58.840
<v Speaker 2>most executive looking desk that was sitting out on the course. Bob,

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:03.320
<v Speaker 2>you were shooting a commercial and you were pounding on

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:05.759
<v Speaker 2>this desk and you were behind this desk on this

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:10.520
<v Speaker 2>golf course. And I looked over and went, wow, that

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:14.200
<v Speaker 2>is a That is a badass. That is a badass.

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:18.320
<v Speaker 2>He just like this is this he this, he is.

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 2>He is indeed the head of his domain, so much

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:24.759
<v Speaker 2>so he's gonna put a desk on the middle of

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 2>golf course to show everybody who the boss is. Not

0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 2>that they didn't know already. That was just amazing, you know.

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 1>You know. One of the story behind that. One one

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 1>of the golf magazines came up with that idea, okay

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 1>for to take a photo, you know, to head up

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to the interview. And I was wearing a sleeveless shirt

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and and and I have tattoos, big tattoos with both arms,

0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 1>so you could you could see them. And uh, you

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:56.200
<v Speaker 1>know most of my tattoos are under karmas. I mean,

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 1>you know that's my wife. You know, she don't want

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 1>me looking like a com when I go out publish.

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, keep doing what you're doing, Bob. I am so

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:14.800
<v Speaker 2>so grateful to you and thankful for the work that

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I do with you. I am so thankful for what

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:22.560
<v Speaker 2>you are doing for other people. Look, people may love you,

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 2>they might hate you, but God blessed, they're going to

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:28.840
<v Speaker 2>respect you because of all that you have accomplished, everything

0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:31.439
<v Speaker 2>you put your mind to, and I wish you nothing

0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:32.000
<v Speaker 2>but the best.

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, always a pleasure to see you, buddy.

0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Bob. Bob, You're amazing. What an

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 2>incredible life you have lived, and I feel so lucky

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 2>that you took the opportunity to share it with me

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 2>with us today. I'm going to see you out on

0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:03.239
<v Speaker 2>the course soon. I fully intend to dominate you with

0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 2>your very own creation by p XG Clubs. Uh, listeners,

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna see you. Well, no, that's not right, I'm

0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:15.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna hear. I'm gonna You're gonna I'm gonna talk at

0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:18.080
<v Speaker 2>you whatever it is. I'm gonna be right here on

0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:21.960
<v Speaker 2>the podcast next week. You should come back and listen again.

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