1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: And so the next day we told all the troops 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: we're going to name the company GoDaddy dot com. And 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: they go, that's a terrible dame. Why would you ever 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: name a company that you know, we hate it? You 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: know so well, the deal was, we never found the 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: better name, and it's stuck. Yeah, And that was the 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: extent of my market research. Hi, my name is Bob Parsons, 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: and I'm here to tell you I'm the CEO of 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: PxC dot com and I want to remind you that 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: PxC nobody makes golf clubs the way we do. Harrian. 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Hi everybody, and welcome to your favorite podcast and mine, 12 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Off the Beat. This is your host, Brian Baumgartner. Today 13 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: we're gonna go way off the beat. Even for Off 14 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: the Beat, We're going off the beat outside of our 15 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: usual wheelhouse of factors and athletes. Today I am speaking 16 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: to an entrepreneur, a philanthropist, and well, my good buddy, 17 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: Bob Parsons. If you don't know Bob, Bob is many 18 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: many things. He's a great golfer, a decorated Vietnam veteran, 19 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: a motorcycle daddy, and yes he is a psychedelic crusader. 20 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, the founder of some little 21 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: companies you may have heard of, like Go Daddy and 22 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: p XG. Now Bob is well, Bob is literally one 23 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: in a billion because he's he's the first billionaire that 24 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: we've had here on the podcast. Not not that anyone's counting, 25 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: because I don't I don't think I could count that high. Yes, 26 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna love Bob. He's a riot, he is sharp 27 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: as attack, and I think this conversation is going to 28 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: be in the wild sixths sas category with maybe just 29 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: a hint of trouble. But just in case, buckle up. 30 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: Everybody here is Bob Parsons. Bubble and Squeak. I love 31 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: it Bubble and Squeak. 32 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: I know. 33 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: Bubble and Squeak. 34 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: I cook it every month, left over from the ninety before. 35 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: Hi, Bob, how are you doing there? Buddy? All right? 36 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: How are you good? Good? I'm you know, I've been 37 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: getting ready for this podcast. 38 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: Have you have you done so much work? 39 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: Well? No, no, I haven't done any fucking work. But 40 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: what I've what I've done is I've drank some rum okay, 41 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: and I had some potato chips. And that gives me 42 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: the voice of an angel. 43 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: You're You're like me, Bob. You and I both we 44 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: have the voice of an angel. How how have you been? 45 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 2: Are you doing well? 46 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: Bryan? If I was any better, i'd be you baby. 47 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about right. That's kind of what I think 48 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: about when I think about you, just almost like me. 49 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. 50 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: I actually did do some work in preparing for this 51 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: podcast on you. I want to talk a little bit 52 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: about your growing up. You have said over time that 53 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: you grew up your parents were gamblers. Is that right? 54 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? They were, and they weren't very good. 55 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: At what what What kind of impact did that have 56 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: on you? Were you aware at the time that they 57 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: were gambling and not very good at it? 58 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah I was. I was, well, you know, 59 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: at the time, I wasn't really aware of how very 60 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: bad at it they were, but you know, I knew 61 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: that knew they were gamblers. Uh Like you know, my mother, 62 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: for example, I learned how to read fraction. I learned 63 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: how to you know, learned about fractions from her teaching 64 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: me how to read the racing form, you know, And 65 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: I remember, as clear as it was yesterday, her showing 66 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: me that eighth is really a bigger number than the sixteenth. 67 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: Right, right, that's true. Do you think that that in 68 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: any way later in life is what helped your decision 69 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: to get into accounting and finance. Is there a correlation? 70 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: You know? 71 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: I you know, I would like to say there was, 72 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: but there wasn't. I mean, the way I got to 73 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: be into accounting was I got to go to the 74 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: University of Baltimore by a program they offered to veterans. 75 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: Now keep in mind, I failed the fifth grade and 76 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't much better any other year. You know. The 77 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: only reason I graduated high schools because I joined the 78 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: Marine Corps was going to Vietnam, and my teachers took 79 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: pity on me. Right, So, I mean, my grades were 80 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 1: nothing to really write home about. So I was working 81 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: as a laborer at a steel mill, and I've seen 82 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: this at the University of Baltimore did for veterans. They said, look, you, 83 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, as long as you've graduated or have a 84 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: GED and if you don't have a g D, we'll 85 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: help you get one. Right, you know, you know that's 86 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: all you need. Your grades don't matter, you don't have 87 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: to take any entrance exams, and you go on to 88 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: GI Bill Well to me, that's what I did. So 89 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: I went over. I went over there and I went 90 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: into the registrar's office and said, you know, I want 91 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: to go to college, and he goes, well, what do 92 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: you want to major in? And I didn't even know 93 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: you needed a major to go to Nobody in my 94 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: family ever went to college. I just thought you went 95 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: to college, right, So I then went He says, you 96 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: go see his counselor. While I went to see this guy, 97 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: and there was a line down the hall, ran another 98 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: hall around. If i'd have waited for this guy still 99 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: be waiting to see him, right. So I went back 100 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: and I said, I said to the guy at a registrar, 101 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: I said, anyway, I can pick my major, and goes sure, 102 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: here's a book of majors. I opened it up. First 103 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: major in the book was accounting, and I asked him 104 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: I said, uh, what is this? And he goes, what's 105 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: the county? He goes, well, are you good at Are 106 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: you good at math? I said yeah, reasonably, I guess, 107 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: goes anything and he goes, I have you interested in 108 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: a business? Said I am, and he goes, well, probably 109 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: should take accounting. So I did, and luckily it was 110 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: a fortuitous choice because I loved it, right, and and 111 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: I graduated Magna cumb claude with a degree in accounting. 112 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let me ask you, so, why do you 113 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: think that you were such a bad Was it? Was 114 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: it about applying yourself? 115 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: Like? 116 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: Why were you such a bad student? Almost failed the 117 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: fifth grade, barely graduate from high school? And then you 118 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: know you suddenly you're Magna cumbloude from UNI of Baltimore 119 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: in accounting, Like what what was that? What was the change? 120 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: Well, a couple of things. First of all, you know, 121 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: if I was a kid in school today, I'd be 122 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: pumped full riddling. That's first thing. Right. They used to 123 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 1: give me these yellow it's yellow number two Taykonda Rogan 124 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: pencils and I would chew them down, baby, inside an hour. 125 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: And then I have yellow paint all over my face. 126 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: I look like a rapid little beast, you know. And 127 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: then and then that stuff at home, things were like nuts. 128 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: So you know, it didn't make for me really focusing 129 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: on school. So I mean I just I managed to 130 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: squeak by. Now the Marine Corps. The Marine Corps focused 131 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: me and made all the difference. 132 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I graduated and if you can't, you 133 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: can't see Bob right now, but he's wearing a shirt 134 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: on right now. This says US Marines attitude is everything. 135 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: I know. You're great love for the people, both passed 136 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: in service and and current service members. Your decision to 137 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: join was this because you didn't know what else to do? 138 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: Or did you have a particular passion and knew you 139 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: wanted to pursue that? In high school? 140 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: Very few things have I done because I have a 141 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: particular passion. I'll tell you that right now. I mean, 142 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: I've developed that after the fact. But in my senior 143 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: year I was I discovered alcohol and the opposite sex, 144 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: and you know that really doesn't make you know, that 145 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 1: doesn't really get you ready for the teens list. So 146 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: so I was not doing well and I didn't think 147 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: I would even have enough grades to graduate. So I 148 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: had two guys come to me after gym class one 149 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: day and they asked me to say, what do you know, 150 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: what are you going to do after you graduate? I said, 151 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: I'll probably still be here, and I'll still be here. 152 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't think I want to graduate, yea, So they said, 153 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: why don't you you want to go with us? We're 154 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: going to go talk to the Marine Corps recruiter. All 155 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: three of us wound up joining And now this is 156 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty eight, and in nineteen sixty eight, and 157 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: then in nineteen sixty nine. I'll give you by comparison 158 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: to war in Afghanistan, the casualty rate there one hundred 159 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: and fifty a week, both sides killed them wounded. All right, 160 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: one is too many. I'll tell you that right now. 161 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: When I listed in the Marine Corps, that number was 162 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: thirty two thousand, seven hundred a week. Yeah, so you know, 163 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: we didn't know. We didn't know that we were off 164 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: to have an adventure see foreign lands. So anyhow, when 165 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: I went ahead and managed to get accepted into the 166 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: Marine Corps, I showed my teachers my orders a report 167 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: to boot camp that August, and they all passed me. 168 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of extra credit. 169 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: You know. 170 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: We used to get extra credit for I don't know, 171 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: reading a book or something. You got extra credit by 172 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: joining the Marine Corps. Wounded in Action while serving in Vietnam. 173 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: Recipient of the Combat Action Ribbon, Vietnam Gallantry Cross and 174 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 2: the Purple Heart. Is this the hardest thing you ever did? 175 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: You know, and in many respects I would say, yeah, yeah, 176 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean it is. You know, being in in combat 177 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: is is very painful. The stuff you have to carry 178 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: is you know, very awkward and very heavy, which translates 179 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: to pain, and you get very little sleep to no sleep. 180 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I mean it is. It is 181 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: every aspect of it's uncomfortable. I remember laying in those 182 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: rice patties at night with mosquitoes even as fite, even 183 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: though we you know, we had repellent chewing the shit 184 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: out of me. And then it's grizzly. I mean it is. 185 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: It is grizzly, beyond your imagination. So it is not 186 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: a happy thing, that's for damn sure. But that's being 187 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: in combat. 188 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 2: Is it the thing that you're most proud of in 189 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: your life? 190 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so, I think so. 191 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you you come back. You were injured in action? Now, 192 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: is that is that why you left? 193 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: No? No, no, actually actually actually in the Army Navian 194 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: Air Force, if you were wounded you could opt out 195 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: of combat in the Marine Corps three times. Of course. 196 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: It is a fucking course, it is, of course, you know, 197 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: you know, the Army Davian Air Force, our tour was 198 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: twelve months Marine Corps thirteen months. Ow fucking course, it 199 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: is right, oh Jesus Christ. So so any anyhow, I 200 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: I I what happened with me? Where I was walking 201 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: on a point team one night and I was walking 202 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: second to the point man, a real high stepping guy. 203 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: He stepped over a tripwire. I mean he didn't see it. 204 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: It was pitch dark. He was just lucky. Well, I'm 205 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: not that high stepper. I hit the trip wire was 206 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: attached to a North Vietnamese hand grenade, which is best 207 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: I can determine. That thing blew and I mean it 208 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: tore up my legs and my left EBow, but it 209 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: wasn't a life threatening wound. So I was in the 210 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: hospital in Japan, was there recuperating for a couple of months. 211 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: And then when I healed up, when I was close 212 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: to healing up, I got orders back to the bush. 213 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: Baby God, yeah, my god. So on my way back 214 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: through a crazy series of events, get ready for this, 215 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: get ready for this, yere put the sea pelowin. 216 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: All right. 217 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: I wound up in Marine Corps intelligence because my grades 218 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: and so forth, I was exactly the kind of guy 219 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: that was wow, and I was stationed on Okinawa and 220 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: and and what happened was I ran into a guy 221 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: on my last night there. Who I saved this guy's 222 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: life the first night in the bush helicopter with a 223 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: he was he was stunned from this guy being injured. 224 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: I mean, and and a matter of fact, chopper was 225 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: going to land on him. I've seen it. I ran push, push, 226 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: push push the chopper missus boats. We tripped over a 227 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: rice patty dyke in to that ship. But I saved 228 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: his ass and mine too, right. So uh, he was 229 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: wounded a couple of weeks later, and that was his 230 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: third wound. So he was stationed in intelligence and in Okinawa. 231 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: And I ran into him and he said, you know, 232 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: you saved my life. I get your station here, And 233 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, okay, you know you hear so much 234 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: bullshit in the military. Right, So when I fell out 235 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: from my flight to Vietnam to go back to the 236 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: rightful company, I had order of station to meet Aaron 237 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: and okaw, we got it done. So, I mean, that's 238 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: how that happened. It was just the right time, baby. 239 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: Be in the right right place at the right time. 240 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: How how many years did you serve two well two. 241 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: Right you left. You talked about going to the University 242 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: of Baltimore and finding something that you were really good 243 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: in numbers and accounting and business. Your first business was 244 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: selling a home accounting program, money Counts. Now this is 245 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: before there were computers at home. 246 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: Well this is this is right at the beginning of 247 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: it up. 248 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: Beginning of home computers. Did you use a computer with it? Yeah, 249 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: of course I did. 250 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: Of course I did. You know what I did? Was 251 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: I developed when I was in It was nineteen seventy five. 252 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: Keep in mindy IBM computer wasn't released until nineteen. 253 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: Eighty, right, That's what I was thinking. So I was. 254 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: I was working in accounting for this leasing company, Commercial 255 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: Credit Leasing, and they would send me different places to 256 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: just schedule the asset cities leasing companies they wanted to buy. 257 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: So they sent me to Redwood City, California and company 258 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: that did exotic cars. I scheduled it, and when I 259 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: was done, I had twelve hours left to kill between 260 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: when my flight was and the current time. So I 261 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: wound up on Stanford campus and I was like bookstores. 262 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: I went to a bookstore and I bought a book 263 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: on programming in the Basic computer language. And I started 264 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: reading it while I was waiting for the flight, and 265 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: read all the salient points, and I wrote my first 266 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: computer program, won a flight. And it just so happened 267 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: that in my office we were owned by a company 268 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: called Control Data, which was one of the first computer companies, okay, 269 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: and we had a terminal, a dumb terminal looked like 270 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: a teletype machine. There weren't even monitors then, and it 271 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: happened to run this basic computer language. And so I 272 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: finally got my program running. And then I started doing 273 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: that programming all the time if I could to make 274 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: my job easier. And when Apple two E was out 275 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: two C was out, bought one of those. And then 276 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: I bought an IBM PC, and unlike a lot of people, 277 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: if I wanted it to do something, I wrote the 278 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: code and I also studied the internals, and I got 279 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: to be really good at it. And so when I 280 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: wrote a home computer program, and in nineteen eighty four, 281 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: I decided to try selling it. That's the genesis of that. 282 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: Wow, that's unbelievable, Bob. Did you get any Did you 283 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: have any in the military. You didn't. There was no 284 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: math or finance anything that you got there, right, this 285 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: was all the University of Baltimore and your own big brain. 286 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I mean in the military, I mean, you know, 287 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps. I'm pretty much surprised they weren't 288 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: using stone tablets. So what I got out it was 289 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: all manual. Baby. 290 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeh, that's incredible. You sold Parsons technology to into it. Well, 291 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: first off, do you think it was the idea that 292 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: you had fulfilling a specific need or the way that 293 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 2: your programs operated that made you such a big success 294 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: growing it from really a small business into this multimillion 295 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: dollar company. 296 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: Well, you know, it was first of all, you know, 297 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking about filling a need. I was 298 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: thinking about feeling a need for me for keep track 299 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: of my own finances. Okay, So that's how I wrote 300 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: that program called Money Counts. And it got to be 301 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: good because it was the only double entry system. Everything 302 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: else was single entry and you know, a little half 303 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: assed and so forth back at that time, and so anyhow, 304 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: so you know, first of all, it was it was 305 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: pretty good. It took me three years to learn how 306 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: to sell it, a lot of false starts, but I 307 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: put a total of forty thousand dollars into business, and 308 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: I wound up selling it for sixty four million. 309 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a pretty good return on that investment. 310 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: What's what's harder, bob making the product or getting people 311 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: to buy it? 312 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: I would say both. It's like it's like the angeline 313 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: in the gasoline. You know what's more important? 314 00:18:59,280 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: Right? 315 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know today it would be the 316 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: engine or the electric assuming they ever fucking sell one 317 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: in them. Right. 318 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: You retired a few for a few years after that 319 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: sixty four million dollar sale? Why why not stay retired? 320 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: Well? First, you know, I like you. I like golf. Okay, Right, 321 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: So I had a year where I couldn't Yeah, better, 322 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: maybe a little more than a year, but I had 323 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: a year where I couldn't do anything. And I mean, 324 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 1: this agreement not to compete was I couldn't do anything, right, 325 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: shine a pair of shoes, and you know they had 326 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: a whole back, I'd forfeit it and so forth. It 327 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: was stupid. So so any anyhow, so what I did 328 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: was I started playing golf, and I moved to Arizona, 329 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: and I was and you know, if you're playing every day, 330 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: you know the only guys you're going to play with. 331 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: Are the guys that are retired, right, I mean long retired, right, 332 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: And so I mean I'm like at the time, I'm 333 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: forty five years old and I'm playing with all these 334 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: old men every day. And see, Brian, I got to 335 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: learn certain things about him. There's a when when a 336 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: guy reaches a certain age, right, he's like a super senior. 337 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: He starts dressing in strange ways. You know, they look 338 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: like they look like they look like flags from other countries. 339 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: It's like, what the fuck? You know, for Christmas, I'm 340 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: going to get you a mirror. But that's but that's 341 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: what they do, right, So uh, I you know, I 342 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: and at night, I wanted to be back in the game, right, 343 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: So that that's why I came out of retirement. 344 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: You come out of retirement and you you started this 345 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: little business called go Daddy. I read that you wanted 346 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: to call it Big Daddy. A warning to listeners out there, 347 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: don't go to big daddy dot com. That's very, very 348 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: different than go Daddy. It was formerly known as Joe 349 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: Macs Industries. You do domain web hosting became the largest 350 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: in the world. What was it about this company? What 351 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: what did you see before anybody else saw it. 352 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: Well, well here's here's you what I did. You know, 353 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: when when I first started, I had I had a 354 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: lot of money. 355 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: I had. 356 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: I had like thirty six million dollars and I thought, well, 357 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: you know what, I know the Internet is going to 358 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: be the thing, so I need to find a way 359 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: to turn a buck on the internet. So so what 360 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: I did. I hired a number of very intelligent people 361 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: and we tried a bunch of different things, and what 362 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: the idea was, if it didn't work, we quit doing it, 363 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: and if it did, then we keep doing it. That's 364 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: called a search fund. Very difficult way to make money. So, 365 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we did a number of things. None of 366 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: them worked, but the only thing that gained traction was 367 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: we were doing websites for people and that worked. I mean, 368 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: that made money. So we had a number of people 369 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: ask us, do you have a product that I could 370 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: use where I could do my own website, And that 371 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: was the idea that came up with the genesis of 372 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: our product, website complete so people would do their own website. 373 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: Passed nineteen dollars and you know that sort of thing. Well, 374 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: the problem was, it was a couple of problems The 375 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: first problem was there was so much noise from the 376 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: dot com boom that people didn't see us right and 377 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: and and the second the second thing was the name 378 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: Joe Max Technology. This kind of was very forgettable. So 379 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: me and my right hand person, a lady by the 380 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: name of Barbara Rectorman, we went to work and to 381 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: come up with a new name. And so after about 382 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: three days and nights, one of us says, how about 383 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: big Daddy taken? How about fat Daddy taken? And then 384 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: I remember to go command from AOL used to be 385 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: and type go disc go that, and I typed in 386 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: go Daddy available. So Brian, we bought it as a joke. 387 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: And and so the next day we told all the 388 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: troops We're going to name the company GoDaddy dot com. 389 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: And they go, that's a terrible fucking name. Why would 390 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: you ever name a company that you know? We hate it? 391 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: You know? So well, the deal was, we never found 392 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: the better name, and it's stuck. 393 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: It stuck. 394 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was the extent of my market research. 395 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: The name cost me nine bucks. 396 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 2: That's smart though I never thought. I never put that 397 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 2: connection together because it was with the with the old AOL, 398 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: which of course everybody had, and you know, initially, I 399 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: mean that was my first email account and access to 400 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: the internet, of course was AOL that's very very smart. 401 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: Not surprisingly, that business was very successful. You get into 402 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: Go Daddy because you see the Internet as a possibility 403 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 2: and you want to make money. Now, my impression is 404 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: that after that, you decided to do things that you 405 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 2: wanted to do, things that were passion projects of you, 406 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 2: like motorcycles. You like to ride motorcycles, right, Bob, I do. Yeah, 407 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: So now you own motorcycle dealerships because that gives you joy. 408 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: Is that an accurate statement? You started doing work for 409 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: things that bring you joy? 410 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you know I did. Yeah, and then and 411 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: then they eventually, uh after I got into the business, 412 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: said no longer brought me joy, okay, And then and 413 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: then we had to make it work. Now motorcycles. I mean, 414 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: you know what what I'm telling you, My dad told me, Brian, 415 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I mean, when I started 416 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: my first business, he said, it is always going to 417 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: seem to you like the other guy's business is easier, 418 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: he says, don't you ever believe it. They're all tough. 419 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: And so I found that out about motorcycles. It took 420 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: me a couple of years to figure out how to 421 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: do it. Now we know how to do it. I 422 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: owned seven of them, right, But I have to tell 423 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: you before I shift away from going daddy, I have 424 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: a Twitter story. 425 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So here I am. This is This 426 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 2: is in. 427 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: I'd say about two thousand and six to thousand and seven. 428 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I am selling a couple of three domain names, 429 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: the second right, and we got all these people that 430 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: are interested in Twitter handles, and we got this search 431 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: algorithm that is looking stuff up and so forth. So 432 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: I get the idea that man would be just as 433 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: easy for us to get a Twitter handle and sell 434 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: it for you know, offer it for whatever they you know, 435 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: you know we ought to paying then pay Twitter half 436 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: of that. And I mean they rack up a stack 437 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: of cash because they're giving them away now for nothing, 438 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: right right, So, and I mean, I mean it's made them, 439 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: made them millions. So I go to them. We go 440 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: to them and talk to them and we tell them this. 441 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: You know what they told us. We don't care about revenue, 442 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: really yeah, and that's what our men, Eli Musk found out. 443 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: You know, the fucking idiots are running the aside, And 444 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, I was like, well, have you told your 445 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: bank set? Yeah? 446 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: Did you do it anyway? 447 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: Oh? 448 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: Fuck? No? 449 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, No, why why why would I do 450 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 3: that for them if they're not gonna even if they 451 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 3: don't want it, right christ And knowing them, they'd have 452 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 3: probably sued me to stop me. 453 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: Right to not to not allow them to make money. 454 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: They would have sued you. That's crazy. I thought you 455 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: were going to tell me you were about to take 456 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: over Twitter. That's what I thought was going to be 457 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: the big news. But no, you just tried to No, no, 458 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: there's no way. I mean to me, I would be 459 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: like a grand to have symphilis, motorcycles, golf. Now you 460 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: said it doesn't give you Golf still gives you joy, 461 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: right yeah, okay, but not motorcycles. Motorcycles. 462 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: Motorcycles do too. I love them, I mean I just 463 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: love them, right yeah. 464 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: But but not the business of it. 465 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: Well no, I love the business of it because now 466 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: now I know it. But what I'm telling you is 467 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: everything is difficult, and so it took us. Took us 468 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: quite a while to figure out how to make money 469 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: with a motorcycle dealership. Now that we know I love 470 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: running it, take care of my customers like nobody else does, 471 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: and it is it is a blast. 472 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 2: Uh you speak of golf. You bought one of my 473 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: favorite golf courses in the world. It's Goottsdale National Golf 474 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: Course and the founder, the grand Poobah of my favorite 475 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: golf company, p x G Parsons Extreme Golf, which well, 476 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: does it better than anybody. Has It made you fall 477 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: more in love with the game or just the business? 478 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, you know PHG. Yeah, I love the company. 479 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: I love the operation, and we work all the time 480 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: on figuring out the best ways to do it. No 481 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: company has customer service like we do. And I believe 482 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: that our clubs are the finest clubs made in the industry. 483 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: Yes, well, you are putting your money where your mouth is, 484 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: unlike anything that has ever been done in the golf 485 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: world before. You just had the new Gen six clubs 486 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: come out and you are so caught. I love this 487 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: both about you and the company. You are so confident 488 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: that your clubs are the best of the business that 489 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: you have a contest now this August where you are 490 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: allowing people to come in hit their own drivers and 491 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: then hit yours and if their's wins, you give them cash, right. 492 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: Bucks, Yeah, give them hundred bucks. Put on a master card. 493 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: Done, MasterCard, one hundred bucks. If their own driver that 494 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 2: they own and are used to hitting outperforms yours. You're 495 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: that confident now. I was told by one of our 496 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: good mutual friends. You casually did this competition and out 497 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: of fifty eight times people came in to try to 498 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: get clubs or we're trying out clubs. Out of fifty 499 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: eight times, fifty five your driver won. Why do you 500 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: think that this gen six? What do you think you 501 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: have found now that even though they were great before, 502 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: what have you found now that has made them even better? 503 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: Okay, well, here's what I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna 504 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: tell you again. We make the finest equipment in the world. Yeah, 505 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: that's the first time. Okay, hold that in your mind. Okay, 506 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: all right. The second thing, we have tested it against everything. 507 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: We're the tall hal get the crows, brother, that's the trunk. Yeah. 508 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: And the deal is it is not only the longest, 509 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: the most forgiving, and it's the most accurate. Right, And 510 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: so you know the we won fifty five out of 511 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: fifty eight times, and we lost those three due to flukes. 512 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: I can assure you. 513 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, you you you have said in terms of 514 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: putting your money where your mouth is, that you can't 515 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: win a farting contest unless you're willing to shit your pants. 516 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: And you you are. This is what I was told. 517 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: And you're you're, you're, you're entering this farting contest and 518 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: you're going against everybody. 519 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, you know I am, but you 520 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: know this particular farting contest. It's like like the tables 521 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: in Vegas. You know, I know I'm gonna win, right right, 522 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: So so so bring them on and then the worst 523 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: they'll do is they'll get to hit a really good driver. 524 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: Right. I love that. I love that you're doing this. 525 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: By the way, you famously there's no one more confident 526 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: than you. But here's the other thing. You make great 527 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: products that you don't. You don't have to worry about 528 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: your confidence because it always works, right Bob. Well, there 529 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: you go. You're you're at the ten year mark with 530 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: PXG and one of the things that you all do 531 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: you wait to release I mean ten years and this 532 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: is the sixth generation. It feels to me like all 533 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 2: the other golf companies come out with a new club 534 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: every six weeks or so, but you really take the 535 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: time and you and I have talked about this before, 536 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: where you really work on and research, do tons of 537 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: testing before you let anything go out to the market. 538 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's true. 539 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: You know. 540 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: It's like and there's a lot of jealousy in the industry, 541 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, I'll tell you that, Like we we have 542 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: a few competitors. One competitor for sure, who who I 543 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: won't name, your spreading ship lies about our equipment, you know, 544 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: because we have the thinnest face in golf and we 545 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: have an explosive core. Uh they say, well, that makes 546 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: it very inaccurate, you know, front the back and left, 547 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: the right and so forth. Actually, are golf dot Com tested, 548 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean every new club this year, are our irons 549 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: are the most accurate? 550 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 551 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean so that did wrong? Whe that? 552 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: And uh so? 553 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: So anyhow, I mean, you know, like, for example, you 554 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: can cut a competitors club open and it looks like 555 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: a dumpster inside. All right, Yeah, you know, you cut 556 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: ours open and it looks like a Marine Corps drill team. 557 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: I mean, everything is perfect. So, I mean, it's just 558 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the difference in what we're doing. 559 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: I have to talk to you about psychedelics, Bob. I 560 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: know when you returned from combat you suffered from PTSD. 561 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: First off, if you would talk to me a little 562 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 2: bit about your own experience and how psychedelics has helped you. 563 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: Well, here's what happened before I went to Vietnam. You know, 564 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: I had a pretty rough childhood, so I was carrying 565 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: some of that. But I was still a pretty happy guy. 566 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: Loved going places, meeting people, all those sorts of things. 567 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: But after Vietnam, the Bob that came back was very 568 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: different from the Bob that left. Bob that came back. 569 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: People would describe me as very intense. I had a 570 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: flash temper. I didn't feel like I got belonged no 571 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: matter where I was at. So I didn't want to 572 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: mostly be with other people. Uh, you know, isolation was 573 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: you know something that that I did, and I was. 574 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: I was a pretty focused guy. Now, you know the 575 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: good side of all that is the way I dealt 576 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: with my PTSD. I buried myself in my work and 577 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: often I think if I hadn't had PTSD, would I've 578 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: been so successful? Yeah, I don't know for sure, I'd 579 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: have been a lot happier, for sure. And the other 580 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: thing is I cry every now and then, always when 581 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: I was alone. I mean, a lot of depression goes 582 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: with that. And so for sure cost me my first 583 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: two marriages. I mean, you know, both of them hungowners. 584 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: God bless them. They both hung on as long as 585 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: they could. And then finally they put a boot in 586 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: my ass and send me back. And I got cut 587 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: from the team twice. And then when I met my 588 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: third wife, Renee Renee, Yeah, she turned out to be 589 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: it's She's just a wonderful, wonderful person. It's the best 590 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: thing that ever happened to me. So she hung in 591 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: with me. In nineteen eighteen, I read Michael Collins book 592 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: called How to Change Your Mind, and it's all about 593 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: it's a treatise one the Bible, one's psychedelics. And so 594 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: I went to my wife and I said, you know, 595 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: I'd like to try this, maybe it'll help me. Because 596 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: what happened was, over the years, PTSD didn't get better, 597 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: got worse. And so she had me hooked up with 598 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: a couple of guides in two weeks, and I met 599 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: with them and on the first day I took ayahuasca, 600 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: and you know, there was a lot of talk, a 601 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: lot of exchange, you know, the stuff that I was 602 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: dealing with and so forth. And at the end of 603 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: that a lot of tears, a lot of tears. And 604 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: at the end of that, I still remember it was 605 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: psilocybin or magic mushrooms. God said to me, I swear 606 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: to Christ, find this is true. I mean, I says, 607 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: no bullshit here. And I realized that it's like, you know, 608 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: it's just the same as putting your hand on the 609 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: Bible when somebody talks to you. Right. So first he 610 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: made this this pot of tea, and he goes his 611 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: tea holds three cups and he goes, I really made 612 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: it strong. You're only going to need one cup, Brian. 613 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 1: I drank all three cups and I ate the tea. Bags. 614 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: Oh brother, I was on the roof. So so we 615 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: took him to revisited, relived a lot of stuff, and uh. 616 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: The next day I took off and he said, you 617 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: don't need a break, baby, And so I I taken 618 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: go play golf with Renee and we played and we 619 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: played nine holes and when I went out, it was 620 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: like the trees knew I was there, you know, and 621 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: and you know, the leaves they all like, hey, Bob, hey, 622 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: tell buddy. So I got to the green and the 623 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: greens told me where the butt? Okay, they told me 624 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: hit the but but I made so many long putts 625 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: I never missed. I never putted that good in my 626 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: whole life. And so I went back and that was 627 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: the third day. On the fourth day, it was LSD 628 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: and yeah, and I mean and. 629 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 2: That was. 630 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: That was that was pretty that was pretty well. But 631 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: after I was done, you know, it's important to realize, 632 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, if I'd just took psychedelics for those three days, 633 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have changed much. Psychedelics with the right guides 634 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: does because you know, the therapy does the healing, the 635 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: psychedelics make it possible. 636 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 2: So the psychedelics open you up to be able to 637 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 2: discuss and go places that you would not if you 638 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: had not taken it. 639 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: Is that right, exactly? And willing to accept change. 640 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 2: Okay, all right? 641 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: So after that, my wife noticed it, you know she 642 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, she's kept saying to me, man, you seem different. 643 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: There's so much calmer and happier, and you know, willing 644 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: to you know, even do some certain things, you know, 645 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: And when I got back to my office, the people 646 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: in the company goes, what the fuck is he out 647 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: at the bob? You know, I mean this guy, I 648 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: mean he is, He's complementary. He again so calm, you know, 649 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: he says such nice things, you know, and I mean 650 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: in the meantime, I mean before that, it was like 651 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: he's the most attense person I've ever worked it, right, Christ, 652 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: get him away from me. I mean even my son 653 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: told his wife, he said, you know, I'm worried that 654 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: my father is going to die soon. She goes, Whye, 655 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: he goes, well, he keeps calling. He calls more than 656 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 1: he ever did, and he's so nice to me. I 657 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: worry that he's found out he's going to die soon. 658 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: And he says change. Well, you know, I had to 659 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: set him straight, and we did. But it had been 660 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: forty nine years since the war and I finally came home. 661 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 2: Wow, that's awesome. I mean, had you had experience taking 662 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 2: these drugs recreate? I mean I don't even know. I 663 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 2: guess that's had you had experience with psychedelics previously without. 664 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: The door No, no, because you know, I believed all 665 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: the standard boshit. I thought if I took LSD, I'd 666 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: climb up on a roof and jump off, thinking I 667 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: could fly. Well, you know that's not the case, right, 668 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: you know, and so forth. So I would have never 669 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: taken them. But after I read Michael's book and I 670 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: understood that these things is what they're healing power was, 671 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: then I said, I'm on board. 672 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 2: It's that's incredible. I mean, I was hoping that you 673 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 2: were going to say that, because I think that's the 674 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 2: issue that we're dealing with right now. Right we have 675 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 2: something that may really be able to help people, particularly veterans, 676 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 2: people who are suffering with PTSD, either from the military 677 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: or something else, but there's a stigma attached that, you know, 678 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: makes people scared or or not able to use it. 679 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 2: I have to tell you all this. I saw these numbers. 680 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 2: This is absolutely staggering. Bob and his foundation Bob and 681 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: Renee Parsons, has given over fourteen million dollars to psychedelics 682 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 2: funding and total funding aimed at impacting PTSD. Bob one 683 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 2: hundred over one hundred and nine million dollars. You truly 684 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 2: are putting your money where your mouth is and and 685 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 2: trying to help others who are dealing with the same 686 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 2: things that you have been. I that's incredible. 687 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I do that because I know how 688 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: important it is. And I do it because I can 689 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: do it. And there's a there's a there's a saying 690 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: in the Bible to him who much has given, much 691 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: is expected. Yeah, and so we try to take that 692 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: the heart. And I know that when the day comes 693 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: when we fucking wake up and that, you know, we 694 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 1: wake up and we know that, okay, that this stuff 695 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: is as important as it is. Like, for example, on 696 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,919 Speaker 1: the third field trials for m d m A, which 697 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: we help fund of hardcore cases, somebody being treated with 698 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: md m A by a trained clinician or you know, 699 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: the therapists, psycho psychologists, psychiatrists, after three sessions, sixty seven 700 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: percent are completely cured. 701 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 2: Come on, is that that's incredible? 702 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,919 Speaker 1: Right? And and and so this is the third time. 703 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't ever have results like this, and 704 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: they're thinking about it, so you know, I mean, you know, 705 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: they're you know, they got their steps that they have 706 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 1: to do and and you know, and I understand and 707 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: I have no criticism of them, but uh, you know, 708 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: they have a lot of people that they got to 709 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: deal with politicians and to say the least. So they're 710 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 1: working on it. But I mean, you know something some 711 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: of the crazy stuff. Crazy stuff is you know, there 712 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: was there was an an initiative up in front of 713 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: Congress to make uh to study marijuana for its it's 714 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: possible healing effects. And even though there was a lot 715 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: of support for it on the Republican side, they voted 716 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: against it. And the reason they voted against it, and 717 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not necessarily faulting them, I mean 718 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,399 Speaker 1: in a way I am, but I'm in a way 719 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: I'm more faulting the process. Right, they voted against it 720 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: because it was introduced by a Democrat in the Senate. Now, 721 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: had it been introduced by a Republican, what a pass? 722 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way it's you know, our government works. 723 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's noteworthy that you have chosen to 724 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 2: not be an investor in these psychedelic therapies, that you 725 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,959 Speaker 2: have chosen to use it through your foundation to give 726 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 2: because you feel like people may not trust your story 727 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 2: and it adds credibility to your story. You feel that 728 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 2: passionately about this and how it can just plain help 729 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 2: people that you're willing to to not be an investor, 730 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 2: but to give Is that right? 731 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 1: Well, I mean you think about it. Let's say I'm 732 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: investing in psychedelics being approved. Well, I mean, you know, 733 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: and this, I am not faulting at all people that 734 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 1: invest in this stuff because we need them completely, because 735 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: they're the ones that will carry the day, right all right, 736 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 1: But to just for we're right now at a stage 737 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: where credibility is absolutely important. And given the fact that 738 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: I have no act to grind in it, I have 739 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: no money to make in it. All I have to do. 740 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: What I get out of this is to be able 741 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: to sit back and smile and say, you know what 742 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: I helped to this. That's it. One other thing in 743 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: my rifle squad, you know, I was, I was operated 744 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: on a squad level in Vietnam, and my squad we 745 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: were out on an ambush every night. And every night, 746 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, in Vietnam, they're no front lines, so we'd 747 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: go out a couple of miles and we set up 748 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,959 Speaker 1: in a little circle and the only safe place Brian 749 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: was inside that circle. And so you know, the guys 750 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: I was with, you know, I mean, most of them 751 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: seen far more combat than I did. I mean, I 752 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: was wounded after a month and I never went back 753 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: to combat. So, I mean, the guys that served so 754 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: much more combat, seen so much more than I did. 755 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 1: But squad leader and the machine gunner dear friends of 756 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: mine to this day. I fucking love those guys. They're 757 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: crazy bastards, but I love them. And so both of 758 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: them were carrying this PTSD cross. I got them together 759 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: and we went to another location. I had the same 760 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: GUIDs go through it with us that you know I 761 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: went through with them before, and I went through it 762 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: again with them because to get them to do it 763 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: and both of them. 764 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 2: Come home, that's incredible, both. 765 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: Of them, both of them, both their wives told me, 766 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: he says, I mean, one of them said, you know, 767 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: he's now talking to his sons about the war. He 768 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: would never do that before. He's so relaxed. I finally 769 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: got my husband back, and I mean, and the other 770 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: one said the same thing, same thing. Yeah, So, Brian, 771 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,919 Speaker 1: the stuff works well. 772 00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,479 Speaker 2: I mean, look, you're a veteran, you created a number 773 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 2: of successful businesses. But it seems to me that if 774 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 2: you can get this help get this passed, the use 775 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 2: of this uh these therapy is to help people that 776 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 2: truly need it. This uh, this could be your legacy? 777 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 2: Will that be? Will that? Will that? Would that be 778 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 2: acceptable for you? 779 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: You know what, I don't need a legacy. No. Once 780 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm gone, baby, you know what, just flush the toilet. 781 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 2: Well I hear along those lines, you signed the giving pledge, 782 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 2: Is that right? 783 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? I did. Yeah. My wife is the one that 784 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: was really interested in that, so I signed that with her, 785 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: you know. And at the end of the day, what 786 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,879 Speaker 1: it says is that, uh, we're you know, we'll we'll, 787 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 1: we'll give half of whatever we have to charity after 788 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: we're dead. And you know, after I'm dead. I'm a 789 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: pretty generous guy. 790 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 2: Well, you're a pretty generous guy now. In twenty twenty two, 791 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 2: you gave a million dollars to to try to advocate 792 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 2: for people with PTSD. That's one million dollars every fourteen days. 793 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,839 Speaker 2: The trend is continuing this year. You're you're pretty damn 794 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 2: generous now, Bob, and you're pretty damn good at what 795 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 2: you do. God bless you. Thank you for being exactly 796 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 2: who you are. 797 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 1: One little thing I'd like to point out that we 798 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: do move a million to charity every fourteen days. But 799 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: it's to a combination of causes. Yeah, you know, and 800 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 1: not not all of it is for PTSD, and so okay, 801 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know we got we got a lot 802 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: of other problems to Brian, I know it. 803 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 2: You give a lot to the Scottsdale area and other 804 00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 2: important foundations around the world. Why stay in Scottsdale? What 805 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 2: is it about that area for you? 806 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: You know what, I could live anywhere in the world, 807 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: and I choose Arizona. I think Arizona is one of 808 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 1: the last great states. Yeah, it is hotter and shit 809 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: in the summer. I love it. I can't be hot enough. 810 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: You know, it was hot for one hundred and ten 811 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: degrees for twenty three days. You know what. You know 812 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: it gets rid of people. I mean, and you know 813 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,879 Speaker 1: not so many people live there, right. 814 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 2: I have to tell this story. I don't know if 815 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 2: you'll remember what the commercial was. The very first time 816 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 2: I met you a number of years ago, I showed 817 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 2: up at Scottsdale National Golf Club. And I mean when 818 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 2: I say on the course, I don't mean like on 819 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 2: a cart path somewhere or out by you know, the 820 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,720 Speaker 2: restaurant in the middle of the course. There was the biggest, 821 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 2: most executive looking desk that was sitting out on the course. Bob, 822 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 2: you were shooting a commercial and you were pounding on 823 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 2: this desk and you were behind this desk on this 824 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 2: golf course. And I looked over and went, wow, that 825 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 2: is a That is a badass. That is a badass. 826 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 2: He just like this is this he this, he is. 827 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 2: He is indeed the head of his domain, so much 828 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 2: so he's gonna put a desk on the middle of 829 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 2: golf course to show everybody who the boss is. Not 830 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 2: that they didn't know already. That was just amazing, you know. 831 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: You know. One of the story behind that. One one 832 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: of the golf magazines came up with that idea, okay 833 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: for to take a photo, you know, to head up 834 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: to the interview. And I was wearing a sleeveless shirt 835 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: and and and I have tattoos, big tattoos with both arms, 836 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: so you could you could see them. And uh, you 837 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: know most of my tattoos are under karmas. I mean, 838 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: you know that's my wife. You know, she don't want 839 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: me looking like a com when I go out publish. 840 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 2: Well, keep doing what you're doing, Bob. I am so 841 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 2: so grateful to you and thankful for the work that 842 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 2: I do with you. I am so thankful for what 843 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 2: you are doing for other people. Look, people may love you, 844 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 2: they might hate you, but God blessed, they're going to 845 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 2: respect you because of all that you have accomplished, everything 846 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,439 Speaker 2: you put your mind to, and I wish you nothing 847 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 2: but the best. 848 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 1: Well, always a pleasure to see you, buddy. 849 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Bob. Bob, You're amazing. What an 850 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 2: incredible life you have lived, and I feel so lucky 851 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 2: that you took the opportunity to share it with me 852 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 2: with us today. I'm going to see you out on 853 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 2: the course soon. I fully intend to dominate you with 854 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 2: your very own creation by p XG Clubs. Uh, listeners, 855 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna see you. Well, no, that's not right, I'm 856 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 2: gonna hear. I'm gonna You're gonna I'm gonna talk at 857 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 2: you whatever it is. I'm gonna be right here on 858 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 2: the podcast next week. You should come back and listen again. 859 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 2: Until then, well, I hope you have a great week. 860 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 2: Off the Beat is hosted and executive produced by me 861 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 2: Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Ling Lee. Our senior 862 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 2: producer is Diego Tapia. Our producers are Liz Hayes, Hannah 863 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 2: Harris and Emily Carr. Our talent producer is Ryan Papa 864 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,839 Speaker 2: Zachary and our intern is Thomas Olsen. Our theme song 865 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 2: Bubble and Squeak, performed by the one and Only Creed 866 00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 2: Brandon