1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Revere, Revere. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Donks look at this now, tip to tip. This is 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit we 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell. 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Oh better late than never, let's 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: put it that way. Sorry for the delay, but we 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: are here Monday, UFC two seventy two post fight to 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: talk about some Ramirez Pedraza, some Choco Latito, a whole 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: lot to do. Hello everyone, this is Morning Combat and 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: I am merely one half of your hosting duo. My 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: name is Luke Thomas. 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Here we go 69 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: Topic number one BC. I did the post Fight Show, 70 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: So I can't wait to hear what you have to say. 71 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: Colby Covington basically dominates Jorge mass that'll en route two 72 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: a unanimous decision I think had a fifty to forty five, 73 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: fifty forty four and a forty nine to forty six. 74 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: But that basically tells the story of the fight BC 75 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: overall impressions of the fight, and then specifically, what did 76 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: you learn about Colby Covington in this contest? 77 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, you know, in the end, it played out 78 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: how we all thought was certainly the most likely outcome. 79 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: It's why the betting odds were were that way, with 80 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: a three to one favorite for Covington, who had the 81 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: freshness advantage and certainly most importantly that stylistic advantage. It 82 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: was right in some of our ways we predicted and 83 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: look at it a coming in in terms of what 84 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: version of mos vidoal it would be. But it went 85 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 3: to script for the most part. And what I learned 86 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: is that Kolby Kofetkin is still very much at age thirty. 87 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: Four of the true elite of this. 88 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: Game, right in that same category in my opinion, with 89 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: the Max Holloways, Robert Whittakers, Dustin poorrieres right now, who 90 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: are some of the best UFC fighters who are not 91 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: champions at the moment, right on the edge of the 92 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: top ten pound for pound, makes smart adjustments, showed his 93 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: toughness in that little hiccup in round four, which is 94 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: you know, probably gonna be more of a conversation on 95 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: what Mosvedal didn't do after that moment. But I'm still 96 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: seeing a very complete fighter, Luke. And whether you love 97 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: him or you hate him, but it's set up for 98 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: you to hate him, to be fair, that pivot which 99 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: he laid the groundwork during fight week of the you know, 100 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 3: I hate Dustin Poorier two guys, don't forget that that 101 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: instant pivot afterwards shows he understands Luke where he's truly at. 102 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: He's not gonna get a third shot at Usman anytime soon, 103 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: so you need money fights. And if he can continue 104 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: to like this Mosvidal fight to fight guys who you. 105 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: Know, a little bit older, not a well rounded. 106 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: His cardio, his wrestling, what makes him great is is 107 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: very much the top of the sport, Luke, the you 108 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: know those categories cardio wrestling. He knows what the hell 109 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: he's doing and he's rounded out his game enough to 110 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: make sure there were no you know, there were hiccups, 111 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: but there was no problem at the end of the day. 112 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: The calling out of Poorier. You you seem to believe 113 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: that that is, you know, designed to get a big 114 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: name fight right and to sort of stay relevant by 115 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: virtue of that. Do you think that the UFC will 116 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: make him fight the winner of either Luke versus who's 117 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: he fighting here balal Mohammad or the winner of Burns 118 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: versus CHIMAIV. Where does Colby even because listen, Poorier, I 119 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to take that fight. He 120 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: might well have to see, but there's a decent chance 121 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't. So where does that leave Colby? 122 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: If you're Colby at thirty four, you know you're still 123 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: the best you've ever bet. This is where the physical 124 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: and the mental and the experience comes together. This is 125 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: the best version of Colby Covington right now. He knows 126 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: his win is closing though Luke and I don't think 127 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: it's advantageous for him to go back to the to 128 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 3: the ladder and go through the top two or three 129 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: guys to try to just get back into the conversation 130 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: of a nusman fight, he needs to stay on the 131 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: outside looking in so that if Usman suddenly retires or 132 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: moves up and wait, or if Tremaiah just kicks the 133 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: damn door in suddenly, Colby's. 134 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 4: Still right there. 135 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: Almost to be fair in a Yo Wanna type situation 136 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: where this big gun just waiting, but he doesn't have 137 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: to sit out. Luke him planting the seeds for a 138 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: poorier fight, him knowing that if he can just keep 139 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 3: throwing out that bait at the McGregor types that you know, 140 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: at the DS, types of the guys that he knows 141 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 3: could make him big fights. I can't see him losing 142 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 3: any of those in this you know, greater BMF sort 143 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: of gray area between two divisions here. But I wonder, though, 144 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: what you're a spirit of your question was what if 145 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 3: they try you know, what if they try to push 146 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 3: him into at the UFC. You know, you saw Dana 147 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: and Colby didn't even shake hands on stage at the 148 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: ceremonial way in, and you know, you know from day 149 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: this comments that you know, he's like, look, Koby's a nactual, 150 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like he's a great fighter, 151 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: and we we deal with him and we make it work. 152 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 4: But uh, you know, I don't know, because I think 153 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 4: they're realized. 154 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: They'd have to be if the UFC, they have to 155 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: be smart enough to realize that he may not. 156 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: Be an a premier pay per view brand. 157 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: But he's building and has built now two fights with 158 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: Usman and now this one. 159 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 4: You know, a legitimate following. 160 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: I don't think you'd want to stuff that if you're 161 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: UFC and force him back into some kind of number 162 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: one contender fight. I think that you can make this 163 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: type of fight that we saw him against a fan 164 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: friendly action guy a few times over. 165 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: Luke my read on this PC, I don't wonder if 166 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: you agree. Is they you know, it's the it's the uh, 167 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: it's the old press conference. Was it was? It was 168 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: it singletary, No, that was I want winners, But it 169 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: was they are who we thought they were. 170 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: Dennis Green, it was yeah, that's right, Yes, yes. 171 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: They are who we thought they were. Uh, you know, 172 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Jorge was probably the better striker, although at times certainly 173 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: the volume and pressure on the feet from Colby snuck through. 174 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: But it was really obviously as we know, he had 175 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: six of fifteen takedowns. In the fifth round, he had 176 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: four minutes and thirty four seconds of control time, really 177 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: putting it on him in that fifth and final frame, 178 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: getting two of two takedowns right just on him like 179 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: White on Rice. And there were these other moments where 180 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: he got dropped briefly in the fourth. Obviously, I think 181 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: Maswodol had a decent second round, but in general the 182 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: fight just kind of played along the path where it's 183 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: like they're probably know each other really well, Kolby is 184 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: going to be the better wrestler and will grind out 185 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: positions on route to a decision victory that was relatively 186 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: ho home. That's exactly what you got. I do think 187 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: we saw a couple of new wrinkles from Colby on 188 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: the ground where he would play in guard and not 189 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: really try to pass and then do more ground and pound. 190 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: That has been something that has plagued him a little bit. 191 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: Against Lawler, he had almost no ground and pound because 192 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: he was so worried about controlling position. This time, you see, 193 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: I felt like he managed different positions that gave him 194 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: different tools in different scenarios. That's better than being one 195 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: note about it all the time. So I did see 196 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: some growth, but I just I mean here's the thing. 197 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: We had talked about this before the fight. He didn't 198 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: have any wins over anyone existing before Saturday, over a 199 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: current top I think ten or fifteen ranked welterweight. Now 200 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: he does have one. He is thirty four, he's the 201 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: best he's ever been. It's just here's where I can't come. 202 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: I can't I can't decide what's going to happen, or 203 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: I can't figure it out. I think there's a strong chance, yes, 204 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: of course, Listen Poitier could take the fight, but I 205 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: have a feeling he wants to deny Colby that and 206 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: by the way, that's a terrible fight for Dustin Poarier. 207 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: I don't like his chances in that one. 208 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 3: I think Partia is And those early odds were like 209 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: minus four hundred Covington I saw that were posted yesterday. 210 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that might be even generous, to be 211 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: quite honest with you. Colby's bigger and has that skill 212 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: set we just saw. So for me, the thing is, 213 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: it's like, did Colby have a great, strong performance, Not 214 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: a doubt about it. He looked really good. He deserved 215 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: that victory, clean, easy, minus a couple of hiccups here 216 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: or there. But I guess there's still these questions about me. 217 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: I assume a guy who gives Kamaru really sort of 218 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: takes that to facto number two spot. But there are 219 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: there's this new, entire fresh wave of welterweights that Colby 220 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: has not really put his hands on yet or vice versa, 221 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: and I think that remains unresolved. 222 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: True, absolutely, And look, if tremaiav wins his next fight, 223 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: you know, I think you should get the title shot. 224 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: And I've said that that he could. You could already 225 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 4: have given. 226 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: It to him, which is somewhat you know, people, Okay, 227 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: I get it, but you know, don't be crazy. 228 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: But I really believe that. 229 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: If it doesn't go that direction, if if Kamaro beats 230 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: Leon Edwards and then tries to either take a little 231 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: bit of time off or or whatever, if you end 232 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: up seeing Tremaiah versus Colby Covington, Luke, that's gonna be 233 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 3: I mean, that could be another number. Even though I'm saying, hey, Colby, 234 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: I don't think you have to go back to the 235 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: well and try to become the number one contender because 236 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: I'm not even sure there's an appetite for a third 237 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: fight with you and usman. You know, go stay a 238 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: pay per view trash talking action guy even though you're 239 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: you know, really cringe. I mean, I don't mean action guy, 240 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: because he fights to his strengths. 241 00:10:58,920 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: You know. 242 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: It's like wrote a story about it on CBS Sports yesterday. 243 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 4: It's like, you know, it's not the Mayweather thing exactly. 244 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: You know, Mayweather would bark and get you mad at them, 245 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: but then have these brilliant, defensive, you know, kind of 246 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: boring ish at Tomes victories. But you know it's there's 247 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 3: some smoking mirrors in that with Covington of making himself 248 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: feel like he's a bigger brand than he actually is. 249 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: He's smart at that. 250 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: And as much as I'm saying, hey, go back and 251 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 3: just make money and just make big fights if they 252 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: if if it's not next for Ustman versus Tremaiah for 253 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: any reason, Tamiah versus Colby is I mean, God, Luke, 254 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: that's a that's just a hell of a damn fight. 255 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: That would tell us so much in so many ways 256 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: about both. 257 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: He really what or a Gilbert Burns fight. A Gilbert 258 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: Burns fight would tell us a lot too, To be honest, Ah, 259 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: I grant that Tremaiah one has a certain mystique to 260 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: it that we couldn't ever really ignore. Last question on Colby, 261 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: then we'll talk about masdof for a brief moment in 262 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: your mind. Where does he rank among most popular active 263 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: UFC fighters? 264 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 4: You talking about Colby? Yes, in terms of their potential 265 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 4: pay per. 266 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: View brand, Yeah, like whether they're Saturday. 267 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 4: How their values their value? 268 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: And look, there are different kinds of pay per view 269 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: values A side and B side, you know, as opponents. 270 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: Colby's largely playing the opponent role up to this point. 271 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: And you can even argue even though he was the 272 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: higher ranked guy, which is why his name was first 273 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: in the promotion. I didn't realize that A lot of 274 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 3: people you know, came at me and updated me on that, 275 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: so thank you. Is he now an A side? I 276 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 3: think is an important question. And if you do consider 277 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 3: him a potential A side, I don't know. 278 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: Look before I. 279 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 3: Answer your question, he seems to have the formula down 280 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: at how to be a great B side, right, Like, 281 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: match him with anybody, he'll trash talk the shit out 282 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: of them. He may end up, you know, probably winning 283 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: because these seems like you know, he's not fighting guys 284 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: on the equal level if he's going to stay in 285 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 3: this lane. 286 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: But in that regard, it's Connor number one. 287 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 5: Is it? 288 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: Is it? 289 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 4: John Jones number two? 290 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: Is he's up? There? 291 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 5: Is he? 292 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: Kamaramber. 293 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: You've got certain guys like like Pourier or Holloway who 294 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: need the right matchup. 295 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: They need that right dance partner. 296 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: But given that Covington might be I mean, you can 297 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: make the argument that Covington's the best pay per view 298 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: B side of the moment, like he's the the number 299 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: one guy in that category. 300 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: Look, yes, I think that's probably accurate. Whether he remains 301 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: to be the number two welterweight over time, I guess 302 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: we'll have to see. Let's talk about Jorge masvit ALBC. 303 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: To me, this was really I mean, I guess you 304 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: could say this about the knockout loss to Kamaru, but 305 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: it was so not you know, I didn't have it instantaneously, 306 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: but the fight was relatively short. This was the first 307 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: time where okay, granted the guy had to fight Colby Covington, 308 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: who is potentially the second best welterweight on the planet. 309 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: You know, we all know how good he is. I 310 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: thought Jorgey looked a little bit old, not terrible, not 311 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: over the hill, but he was wearing it physically in 312 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: a way where I don't know that he ever Positionally 313 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: it didn't look the same, but just from body language, speed, nimbleness, 314 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: the ability to scramble through, he just looked like he 315 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: was thirty seven. Was starting to play a again, not 316 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: the determining factor, but playing a factor. BC. Do you 317 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: agree and where does he go from here? 318 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: It's hard for me to disagree based on how I 319 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: perceive it because it's it's related to that. It's just 320 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: sort of like Luke, like, did I expect a better version? Yeah, 321 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: I mean I predicted him. I was like, look, it's 322 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: not likely, but I just have this feeling. And there 323 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: were moments in this fight, even though this fight goes 324 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: down as a one sided fight, they were particular moments 325 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: and he sort of nailed it right the fourth round 326 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: punch in which he dropped Kolby to a knee briefly, 327 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: and it's like, dude, follow that up mixed with I 328 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: thought he won the second round. I thought he had 329 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: moments in both rounds one in three where it didn't. 330 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 4: It wasn't enough to win around or make that argument. 331 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: But you're like if he can keep making these adjustments 332 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: or stay in that lane, there's something here. 333 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: So all of that was true. 334 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: I think he did put in the best training camp, 335 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: he knew how for this version of him, and I 336 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: think he did have a good mix of explosiveness with 337 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: with trying to set it up, but there was no 338 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: next level magic to be had. 339 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 4: And I think more importantly, Luke. 340 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: He doesn't have the stamina for five round championship elite 341 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: level fighting, and certainly not at this point. And you 342 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: know when I mentioned I think, you know he had 343 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: the best training camp, he knows how to have. 344 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 4: He's a guy. 345 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: I even with that twenty nineteen which now is like 346 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: this aberration moment where the perfect version of him came 347 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: form Luke and then it's easy to mythologize that and 348 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: overrated of course. And I didn't even think he should 349 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: have won the Fighter of the Year that I thought 350 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: it was out of Sonia. But you know that's not 351 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: to take away from him here. You get the point 352 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: is I think that's always held him back, Luke from 353 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: from really getting to the highest level. I don't I'm 354 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: not sure he's fit. He ever truly figured out how 355 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: to get the best of him physically, stamina wise, cardio wise, 356 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: so that there's never a question. And I know that's 357 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: that's hard for a guy like him who lives and 358 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: dies with the explosion and that that's gonna you know, 359 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: pull out your guess tank, but especially in that fourth round, 360 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: to not be able to follow up on the moment 361 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: that you wait for. You set up that moment the 362 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: whole damn fight, and and he he had nothing. 363 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: To to to pour on that. 364 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: Luke. 365 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 4: Uh, it's disappointing. 366 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: Because he did come in with the eye of the tiger, 367 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: I thought, but that the fuel wasn't there. 368 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: This this this sort of this this particular moment that 369 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: Jorgesen reminds me a little bit of like the pre 370 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: explosion Jorge, where granted he's having you know, he had 371 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: a bad loss in the one prior to this, and 372 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: then this one was pretty dominant, so in some ways 373 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: the losses look worse. In fact, that's what that's what 374 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: I was gonna make, Like the things that troubled him 375 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: before are still troubling him now. Granted we're at a 376 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: more elite level, so I don't think that the old 377 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: guys who used to trouble him if they were still 378 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: around or whatever, would still do that, or you know, 379 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: if he had the skill set back then it wouldn't 380 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: be the same. But I'm saying that as he's graduated through, 381 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: yes he's gotten better, but the challenges have gotten tougher. 382 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: So that problem, while he has I'm sure it worked 383 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: Dilla to address it, it still kind of holds him back. 384 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: Which is these grapplers who just are relentless with it. 385 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: They don't necessarily sub him out, they don't necessarily beat 386 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: him up too bad, but they definitely neutralize him. And 387 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: he just looked neutralized. And then this is the difference 388 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: we see in previous fights. He looked neutralized, but there 389 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: was a little bit more scrambling, a little bit more activity, 390 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: a little bit more hustle. This time that part was 391 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: missing too. Again, give kat Kolby for taking it out 392 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: of him, but it just felt like he was wearing 393 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: it in ways I hadn't seen him wear it under 394 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: these kinds of conditions previously. 395 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree with that, Luke. And and you 396 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 4: wanted more from him. 397 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 3: You wanted him to take that ultimate chance and risk 398 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 3: pouring it all out to win, and you know it, 399 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: it is it the Is it the lack of elite 400 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: level stamina that held him back from even trying that? 401 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 4: Or was it an unwillingness? Luke, I'm not sure. 402 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 3: I saw that unwillingness in the first Usmann fight, and 403 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: I was hypercritical, even though it was a short camp 404 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: and he had that built in excuse I don't you 405 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: know the second Houseman fight, he seemed more willing to 406 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: let it go. And look, you just saw what happened. 407 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: You ran into the one of the greatest fighters of 408 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 3: all time. To be fair, I didn't see that that 409 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 3: mindset that is needed to create the Askrin moment. 410 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 4: You're right, you know, you know what I'm saying, Luke. 411 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm asking a lot of this guy right 412 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: for this moment. But this is probably if we're if 413 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 3: we're being honest, the best fighter. Jorge is gonna fight 414 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 3: for the. 415 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 4: Best of his rest of his career. 416 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: He'll make bigger fights, maybe more fans, you know, McGregor. 417 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: I mean, he's always going to be a sexy guy 418 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: to throw in with anybody, but this is probably the 419 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: last great fighter that he will have fought, and I 420 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 3: don't know if he gave himself the best chance to win. 421 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: Luke, you're talking about that fourth round or whatever round 422 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: it was. Was it the fourth, I'm talking about four. 423 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 4: It was the fourth. 424 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 3: But I'm saying, while it's easy to just say ah 425 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: itt end of the gas, I don't know if he 426 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 3: had the desire to risk it all and try to 427 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: finish him there. 428 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: It was. 429 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 4: It was too safe in the end. 430 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: It's interesting. I mean, he certainly regretted it. In his 431 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: postfight comments, he said that he thought after he heard 432 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: him like that that he didn't want to just jump 433 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: in because he thought Kolbe was going to shoot on 434 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: him and he didn't want to give it up. But 435 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: in the end he let the guy off the hook, 436 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: and he was right about it. He was like, it's 437 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: only about a five second window where I had to pounce, 438 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: and he didn't, and he ultimately paid for it. Last 439 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: thing on this we'll talk about the comin event. Bec 440 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 1: Do you think that does Masvidoal's loss? It hurts his stock, 441 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: But I did see an interesting wrinkle which means people think, 442 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: because his relative ability has declined, that it makes a 443 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: Connor fight more likely, because now Connor has a better 444 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: chance against him than maybe he did previously. Agree or disagree. 445 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, And a lot of people are like, well, 446 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: if Mosville is showing you at thirty seven that he's 447 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 3: not of the elite level anymore, and you know, he 448 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: got pretty close in twenty nineteen, he got above it, 449 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 3: I thought, But then you know, why would he sign 450 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 3: a brand new contract. 451 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 4: Well, he's going to be so again. 452 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: He's going to be so damn marketable against everybody, and 453 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: it's going to go in the predictable arc, you know 454 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: what I mean. There's going to be fight in the 455 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 3: beginning that he can win, in big fights that he's 456 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 3: going to be a part of where he may not 457 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 3: have a chance, and it's selling his name. And then 458 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: eventually he you know, as long as he'll stay, he'll 459 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 3: he'll be a great guy to match against guys coming 460 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: up that you really need to test. And I think 461 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: in the in the short period, Luke, there's a few 462 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 3: different potential pay per view bangers. I mean it's not 463 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 3: just you. I mean, you know, the Nate rematch. We 464 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: may not have this massive up appetite for it, but 465 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: that's that's a fan friendly fight to make as well. 466 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: Certainly is no doubt about it. So we'll have to 467 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: see what happens next. 468 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 4: And what about him and Poorier? Luke No, him and Poorier. 469 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: I think they're boys. I don't think. I mean, it 470 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: could be a big fight to your point. 471 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, but they are too close. You're right to 472 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 4: too close, too close. 473 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't think they want it. So we'll have to see. 474 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the co main event BC 475 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: half Eel dos Anos took on not to Moykano grandam 476 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: Moikano for five days notice, had to travel from South 477 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: to North America. It was a tough assignment and it 478 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: only got worse from there. That was an absolute shellacking. 479 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: Now credit to Moykano in a level of tough that 480 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: is difficult to discriby. Nearly get stopped in the third. 481 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that they came out for the fifth 482 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: nearly gets stopped there or for remark, Goddard says, you 483 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: got thirty seconds to turn this around before I call it. 484 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: But he still fought the entire twenty five minutes again, 485 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: made a decent account of himself in the fifth all 486 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: things considered, but it was it was no way he 487 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: was gonna win DC. Should that fight have been stopped. 488 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it should have been. 489 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: It really should have been, because he had already proved 490 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 3: his point and when look, I got it wrong in 491 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: predicting that Moikana would get the upset here. But what 492 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 3: I didn't get wrong was predicting that Moikana would even 493 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: with the challenges of this being a five round fight 494 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 3: on short notice, which you know, it makes no freaking 495 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: sense why this was a five round fight under any circumstance. Really, 496 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 3: I mean, even then, Diaz one shouldn't have been to 497 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: be fair. Yes, there are certain fights, especially number one 498 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: contender fights, that sometimes you do wish could have been 499 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 3: five rounds, but this wasn't necessarily that when you add 500 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: in the short notice. But even with that, Luke I 501 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: was brave enough to pick him because I felt like 502 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: that he knew this was his moment. So when you've 503 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 3: got a wild horse like that, a guy that has 504 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 3: so much pride and is willing to go through it 505 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 3: all the fact that they made him to be fair, 506 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: you know, you could even argue is as big of 507 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 3: this reward would have been short noticed pay per view 508 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 3: coll main event beaten a legend like RDA. 509 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 4: You know, you can make a couple of leaps in 510 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 4: the rankings. 511 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: Wouldn't it have even been worth it to land that 512 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: fury rally in the late fifth And I know there's 513 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: certain you know, Tougher just bleed fans that are like, well, 514 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: see the fact that they didn't stop it. You know, 515 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: we almost created this crazy ending and that justified it. 516 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: It didn't justify it. The body language was in the 517 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 3: scary mode. He had already been concussed, and you could 518 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: have stopped it. I think two rounds earlier during that 519 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 3: flurry where his head snap back and by the time 520 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: we got to where the deformation of the face and 521 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: the eye and then you add in that cage side 522 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 3: doctor And I don't have his name at the moment, Luke, 523 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: and I've I'm not here to you know, absolutely crap 524 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: on him because that's a tough job and he's been 525 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: a high profile one for a while. 526 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: But to just almost throw his. 527 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: Hands in there and be like, yeah, you know, that's cool, 528 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: you can do what you want, you know, to the 529 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: ref and basically say I don't really have a recommendation 530 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 3: for you. That's really what he said without saying it. 531 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 3: You know, I don't really care really, you know what 532 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 3: I mean? You want to go with it. Go ahead, 533 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to put all the pressure on you, Mark Goddard, 534 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: which it just doesn't make any sense. That's a role 535 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: with deep responsibility, Luke, and he was just too whole 536 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 3: hum about it. And Luke, I look, the guys on 537 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 3: the broadcast nailed it. That fifth round flurry from Moikana 538 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: was only really possible because our Da showed humanity and 539 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: took his foot off the gas and didn't want to 540 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 3: essentially take a chunk out of Moikano's career in a 541 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: fight that was already decided. And I think, you know, 542 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: I think Wakata got pissed and he could smell that 543 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: and that's why you sort of had that finish the 544 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 3: way it was. But damn, dude, no, this shouldn't happened, Luke, 545 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: there were there was at least three. I thought, can't 546 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: turn away moments of it needs to be stopped right now. 547 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: And when you once you get to you know, want 548 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: you missed it or you wanted to be an exciting fight. 549 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: We're up to three. We're up to this guy may 550 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: not see again. And if this keeps going, I mean, 551 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 3: what are we doing? 552 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: I just don't understand how we get to these positions. 553 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: What are people looking at where they're like, I'm not 554 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: sure what to do here. He merely gets stopped in 555 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: the third. The fourth round, for the most part, wasn't 556 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: a battering up until like the very end of the 557 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: fourth round, in which case he was a battering because 558 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: that was when he got sliced open and further demolished. 559 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: And he goes back out for the fifth and the 560 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: doctor's looking at him and looking at him and looking 561 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: at him, and I don't you know, I don't know 562 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: what the right answer is in all of these cases. 563 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm not a medical professional and I'm not a licensed referee, 564 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: and I think Mark Goddard was trying to do something 565 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: because he was like, you know, the thirty second warning 566 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: and whatnot. But dude, it's just I can't believe we 567 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: keep having to have these conversations event after event after event. 568 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: The level of risk analysis here by corners consistently at 569 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: the elite level in mixed martial arts is poor. BC. 570 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about it later. 571 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 4: Trickle. 572 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: Latito fought on de Zone over the weekend and his 573 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: opponent Ramirez martinezxcuse me, Martinez Martinez. Yes, I was thinking 574 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: about the Padraza fight. But Martinez, dude through halfway through 575 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: that fight, and by the eighth or ninth round, he's 576 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: not cut. I mean, he's losing this fight pretty badly, 577 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: but he's not cut. He hasn't been dropped. He's firing 578 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: back at least somewhat. They consistently talk in that fight 579 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: about whether it needs to be stopped. Let me explain 580 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: something to you, folks. The level of abuse that Martinez 581 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: took in that fight relative to Moiicano is a minute 582 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: fraction a minute fraction. And even in boxing, they were like, 583 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, this one's looking bad for him 584 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: for different reasons, not that it was necessarily an epic beating, 585 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: but that Martinez just really had no hope for victory. 586 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: Mma is a little bit different, and I understand BC 587 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: making a different calculus about chances because mma is so volatile. However, 588 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: if you nearly get stopped in the third, you lost 589 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: the fourth, you have just one round, The doctor's giving 590 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: you the old evil eye, the referee is telling you 591 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: have thirty seconds, letting the fight continue to that point, 592 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: what purpose could it possibly serve? The guy came in 593 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: on five days, We're going to be five days notice 594 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: from South to North America. Five round fight granted up 595 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: aweight class or whatever was catchway one sixty. Dude, his 596 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: chances of winning that were slim to none to begin with. 597 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: After the third and after the fourth it was infinitesimally small. 598 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: It is not rational or frankly all that ethical to 599 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: send him back out in the fifth. 600 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I disagree that his chances of winning were 601 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: We're as low as you say, because he's an extremely 602 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: talented guy. No, he didn't get the proper training camp, 603 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 3: but like I mean, and you know, we saw the 604 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: depths of what he's made of, and obviously that was 605 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 3: the scary part. But I don't blame his corner even 606 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 3: though they were wrong, because there's so much emotion built 607 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 3: into that that that's why we have the extra fence 608 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: right around the lion cage. That's why we have the 609 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 3: doctor and the commission and in the referee. So you know, 610 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 3: it felt like as a as a team they failed Moycatto, 611 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: you know, and that's why. 612 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 1: There's blame to go around. I don't think that's fair. 613 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: I guess my point is, BC, you've been around as 614 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: long as I have. We're roughly the same age man, 615 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: not just in boxing and MMA. How many times have 616 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: you seen guys take fights like, not not exactly like this, 617 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: but put in situations where a fight should have been 618 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: stopped and it was and it was brutal or whatever, 619 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: and then later on in the career they're like, ah, 620 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: maybe it should have been stopped. And a lot of 621 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: times those guys don't have the money at the end. 622 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: What condo. By the way, express and clear about his 623 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: need for more money is like burning desire to finally 624 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: have some big paychecks. He got half of one here. 625 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: I don't know if the UFC took care of him 626 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: and after the fact, I guess we'll have to see. 627 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 3: Ana said at the press conference, Dana basically did the 628 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: BC without saying it with Dana was like, hey John Nash, Yeah. 629 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 4: We're gonna We're not gonna tax him on it. 630 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: We' gonna give him a giant bag, probably three of them, 631 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 3: just filled with cash. I mean, look, that's what I mean, 632 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 3: not only for keeping the show on the road, but 633 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 3: good god, man. 634 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: Good good And he needs time off too. Man has 635 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: taken brutal knockouts before too. That's the other part. It's like, dude, 636 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: just what chance does someone have, even as talented as 637 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: Hanato Waikano, when you've got an experienced, super skilled opponent 638 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: beating the fuck out of you through four rounds, it's 639 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: irrational to send them out one last thing on this 640 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: SPECU and we'll move along. Which is this is the 641 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: point I made on the postfight show. Everyone keeps saying, well, 642 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: the corner knows them best, and the corner knows them best. Right, 643 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: the corner does know them best. We don't know them 644 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: better than the corner. But clearly it is obviously true 645 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: at this point that that knowledge of that fighter and 646 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: that relationship to that fighter, it is not sufficient to 647 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: make more informed and credible choices about when to throw 648 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: the towel, and in fact, it biases them in the 649 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: opposite direction and towards their strengths, away from their weaknesses. 650 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely, in some cases, the emotions too high or just 651 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: the look this is my boy a lot, you know, 652 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 3: a lot of times the father trainers are the ones 653 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: that that they'll throw the towel the latest, right, you know, 654 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: and and there's a lot of you know, it's a 655 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 3: lot of emotion there. But again that's why you have 656 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 3: the built in fence around it. By the way, r 657 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: DA Luke still just a fucking legend, and that you know, 658 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 3: and the fact that he did seem to show his countryman, like, 659 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: you know, some mercy in round five. I mean, that's 660 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: just the that's the chef's kiss to like, that's a 661 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: real man right there, Luke. 662 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you don't think he was 663 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: showing mercy, go look at the fourth and fifth round 664 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: of what RDA did to Petis. Let me tell you 665 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: very clearly, RDA was putting his foot on the brake 666 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: on this one, lasting on RDA BC. Where is he 667 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: in this division? Because that was actually a good win. 668 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: I mean it was you know, it wasn't what it 669 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: was supposed to be. Doesn't get the physive quality win, 670 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: but he did what he was supposed to. 671 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: Where is he I would say he's in probably one 672 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: of the top positions where if a man, you know, 673 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: a title opportunity falls through, somebody gets you know, COVID 674 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: or somebody gets whatever, that that he's going to be 675 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: the call for emergency, which is obviously not a bad 676 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: place to be into cash in big paydays. But you know, 677 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 3: he said after he'd love a title shot next. 678 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 4: It's not what he's going to get. It depends, Luke. 679 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 3: He's showing you that he's still in a form where 680 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 3: you just don't need to make legend versus legend fight, 681 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 3: like he might be one more win away from a 682 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 3: from a real title shot, not a last minute one, 683 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: not a hey, well you know, former champion. 684 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 4: We love the name he's he's still playing. He's still 685 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: in the game, Luke. 686 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 3: So I don't want to see him against the Tony 687 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: Ferguson level, you know, I want I want to see 688 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 3: him against somebody right freaking there where Off the top 689 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: of your head, what would make rankings wise the best 690 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: matchup here, the smartest matchup if you are looking at 691 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: it as that way. 692 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 4: That like, no, he's still you know, one of the 693 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 4: three or four best in this division at the moment. 694 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: Chandler, Chandler him, Chandler is ranked fifth, he's ranked six. 695 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: That might change a little bit. Seven is hook Seven 696 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: is Ferguson, Eight is hooker. You could do hooker, but 697 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: you would be going backwards at that point. 698 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 4: So RDA Chandler. 699 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Luke, Yeah, that's like that's like you 700 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: know when when that's like in winter time when you 701 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: step into the hot tub, you know, like snow's coming down, 702 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 3: and it's like, oh my god. 703 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 4: This is gonna be great, but it's so cold, and 704 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 4: then you're. 705 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 3: Like, oh shit, that's everything that I want. 706 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: ANYBC, true or false, that's a different fight if it's 707 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: five rounds versus three rounds, Right, that's a much more 708 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 1: winnable fight in either direction if you expand it out 709 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: to main event level. 710 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's a great point. And no matter how 711 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 4: many rounds you said it for, that first one is 712 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 4: going to be the best thing that ever happened to you, Luke. 713 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 4: So just you know, just get ready, all right, all. 714 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: Right, fair enough, we go now to the feature fight 715 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: of the UFC two to seventy two main card. How 716 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: about this. This guy was the biggest standout performer to 717 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: me on the entire main card, Bryce Mitchell. He handled 718 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: Edson Barbos. He had a thirty twenty six to thirty 719 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: twenty five on one of the cards, and I can't 720 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: say I necessarily disagree with that. BC. He went four 721 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 1: for four on takedowns. That's the most efficient and the 722 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: most takedowns Barbos has ever given up in a UFC fight. 723 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: Kabib did that, but had to get I think thirteen 724 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: attempts to do it. Now, granted, Habib had a lot 725 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: more ground and pound than he did, which explains the 726 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: ability for Barbosa to move. But either way you look 727 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: at it, dude, he made smart decisions. He executed on 728 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: a game plan, He stayed out of trouble, he took 729 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: minimal damage. He dropped Barbosa and completely controlled him on 730 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: the ground. Dude, Bryce Mitchell's a star, is he not. 731 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 4: He just made the leap. 732 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 3: You just saw it, you know, And and damn he's 733 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: got the motor and he's got the technique and the craft, 734 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: but he's got something special in the intangibles department. I 735 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: think that we, or me personally, I own a little 736 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 3: bit of an apology. Look that that that I had 737 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 3: never interviewed him before. In that interview he did with 738 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: Ariel Hawani was you know, headline producing for a reason, Luke. 739 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 4: It was aggressive, it was you know, it's a man standing. 740 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 3: Up for his beliefs, which which you you know, you 741 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 3: may or may not have respected, but it was It 742 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 3: allowed me and a lot of people to paint a 743 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: picture of who this guy might be. But yet i'd 744 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 3: heard everyone say, oh no, this kid is is incredible, 745 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 3: a gentleman like you know, this kid is a genuine person. 746 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: I think the build up to the fight, meaning his 747 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: fight week interviews and unfortunately we didn't get the chance 748 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 3: to connect at the end and the post fight you 749 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 3: know press conference if you if you listen to it, 750 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: this is he's an interesting human being, Luke. But I 751 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 3: think he's solid and yeah, nobody you know, there's there's 752 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: a side to him, right, but I think you know, 753 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: for for where he needs to be emotionally to climb 754 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 3: this ladder and take on the killers that are there 755 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: given his age and relative lack of experience against the 756 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 3: elite level. Now we're starting to get there, right but uh, 757 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: you know, relative lack of it. 758 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 4: He's got a a He's. 759 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: Got an old soul poise to him, Luke. That is 760 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 3: that is really a big part of why he can 761 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 3: go in there and execute a performance like this, knowing 762 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 3: that Barbosa is dangerous at every second, but knowing also 763 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: he's have to put a pace on him to wear. 764 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 4: Him out and take away that danger. And he did it. 765 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 4: He did it perfectly. 766 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: And in Barbosa, I think you're starting to see him go, 767 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: you know, the little bit old man came out of him. Unfortunately, 768 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,479 Speaker 3: lack of output was really the thing, you know they 769 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 3: talked about on the broadcast, too comfortable to stay on 770 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: his back. 771 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 4: Some of that true, but it. 772 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 3: Made it easier because Bryce Mitchell was going for it, Luke, 773 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 3: And you know, I got the Camo trunks and at 774 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 3: least he's showing us that there's a few different sides 775 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 3: to him as a person, and I think a lot 776 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 3: of that is also what makes him a great fighter, Luke. 777 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, the guy has his own ideas about 778 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: the world that don't align with mine. But that's probably true. 779 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: You could say for almost every single UFC fighter they 780 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: see the world quite differently than most of us, and 781 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: so you know, that's sort of a different conversation. But 782 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to the fighter, I just don't know 783 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: what people could possibly not that he's a perfect fighter. 784 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: No fighter is. But that was a sensational performance PC. 785 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: I had people saying that this was a setup fight 786 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: for Bryce Mitchell. Are you fucking people insane? Number one, 787 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: they were ranked tenth and eleventh, So by virtue of 788 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: just that, I think Mitchell was the eleventh by the way, 789 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: so dis virtue of that you often see guys who 790 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: are right next to each other a paired. Moreover, let 791 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,479 Speaker 1: me explain something to you. If you think that never 792 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: before in UFC history have so many fighters routinely declined fights. 793 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: We have it on pretty good authority that it's now 794 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: more than ever, and so that makes it difficult to 795 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: find fights. Now. I don't know exactly the origin of 796 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: this one, how much they have to play games with it. 797 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: But BC, while I grant I'm in a complete agreement 798 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: with you that Barbosad definitely showed some signs of age 799 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: and a little bit of shop warningness. But the point is, 800 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: in terms of the level of ability, it was clear 801 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: that Bryce had not fought someone as credentialed, who was 802 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: as battle tested against the very best before. Even if 803 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 1: there may have been on paper some stylistic advantages, that's 804 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: why you didn't get a finish. It's actually hard to 805 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: do that against a guy like Barbosa. Even though some 806 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: have the point I'm trying to make her ESBC, this 807 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: idea that like he was gifted an opponent to look 808 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: good in is fucking stupid and I'm totally insane. 809 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 4: Did you hear the. 810 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 3: Sound of those first couple leg strikes that Barboso in 811 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 3: the first round with that, Mitchell afterwards was like, look, 812 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 3: my game plan was to check those and after that 813 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 3: first one there, you know, there was not going to 814 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 3: be a need to ever try that again. I mean like, 815 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: like that was just dude, this come on. But again, Bryce, 816 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: Mitchell had to show us that he actually is looking 817 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 3: to be potentially a great fighter in order to control 818 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: somebody like Barbosa like that, because if he wasn't that good, 819 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 3: Barbosa's in that fight and you know, probably has a 820 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 3: conversation on the scorecards at the end of it. 821 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: I absolutely agree that speaking of Barbosa, this is probably 822 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: I don't know if any one fight BC represents the end. 823 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no end until he decides to hang 824 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: them up. But what I'm trying to say is you 825 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: look at this performance, you look at the move down 826 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: to one forty five. I just he wanted to go 827 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: to one forty five to get a title and Jose 828 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: Alda went down to one thirty five and obviously is 829 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: in a very different circumstance down there. I appreciate that 830 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: Edson Barbosa has wrung out the sponge to get all 831 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: the water in it. But BC, I think it's out 832 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: of water. The idea at this point that he can 833 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: make a title push at one forty five, I just 834 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: don't think there's any evidence for it. Now. That doesn't 835 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: mean he has to retire tomorrow or he's some kind 836 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: of scrub. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, if 837 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: your goal is title, I just don't see a viable 838 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: path for it. 839 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 4: No, No, it's it's not gonna happen. 840 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 3: And this, look, this was that opponent that was coming 841 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 3: up that was gonna tell us that, and we learned 842 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 3: it and it is what it is. 843 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 4: And you know, it's like he's not retiring tomorrow. But 844 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 4: I often think of like what would. 845 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 3: What is the legacy of a guy like this, Like 846 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 3: he's so damn well respected Barbosa, because he's fought everybody 847 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 3: and he's always been game as shit. I mean that seriously, 848 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 3: That beating he took against a Bee Luke, like that 849 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 3: was one of those like is this necessary? 850 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 4: Should we? You know what I mean? Like that was 851 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 4: just ridiculous. 852 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 3: But reinventing his body, reinventing his game, if he wanted 853 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 3: to just keep doing it because he loves it, and 854 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 3: you know, maybe bank the biggest paydays you can probably get, 855 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 3: which is what happens when you build a name at 856 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 3: the end of your run. Moving back up to life, wait, 857 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 3: there's a there's a lot of fun action fights you 858 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 3: can make, Luke, if you really wanted to. 859 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: And you can take take an easier fight. Bryce Mitchell 860 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: is a tough fight. Don't take fights like that. Take 861 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: an easier fight if you just want to say, because 862 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: Barbosa can still beat guys at this level. That seems 863 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 1: to me true, but just not guys like Bryce Mitchell. 864 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: That is. 865 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 3: Can I say something, Luke, and I want you to. 866 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 3: I just want to see a reaction. You know, maybe 867 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 3: maybe I'm. 868 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 4: A genius or maybe you're just like all right, you know, 869 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 4: you're a lot of talk. And it's in Barbosa versus 870 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 4: Connor McGregor at lightweight. 871 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: It's fun. It's fun. It's fun, Boss, Barboss. You know, 872 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: you could get tagged with the big punch. That's the 873 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: only thing for him there but the leg kicks. There's 874 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: a lot of fun fights for Connor. Connor never has 875 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: a shitty fight, right, No, that did. 876 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 4: That didn't make it. You didn't get horned up from that. 877 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 4: That did that was that was like. 878 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: Of all the possible choices, that's not my top five. 879 00:38:59,040 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 4: See that's so interesting. 880 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 3: So that's like an Eastern European woman on Instagram. 881 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 4: You're like, all right, for some people maybe you know BC, maybe, 882 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 4: but you know, give me that LBB. 883 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yes, the old LBB, the 884 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: famous lbb's Okay, last thing on Bryce MITCHELLBC. Here's one 885 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: thing I just want to point out a lot of 886 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: times we get these characters in MMA from all different 887 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: parts of the world and all different parts of the country, 888 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: and people love them for their character. And you should 889 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: if that's a thing that appeals to you or not, 890 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: if not, whatever, you can make a choice. But the 891 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: one thing that should be put on Bryce Mitchell again 892 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: as a fighter, you better put some respect on him. 893 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: Not just because he's good. He has a very modern 894 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: skill set. He's not just out there winning with old 895 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: farm strength and determination. No, he's winning with the very 896 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: best practices of modern grappling, changing up between upper and 897 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: lower body takedowns, chaining them together, advancing to mount working 898 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: through all these things. But what the very best guys 899 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: are doing in terms of best practices. I'm not saying 900 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: he's the best grappler, but I'm saying his game much 901 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: more closely error is what the very best are doing, 902 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: then what all the other guys are doing. And I 903 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: hope people understand that. 904 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 4: Did you just take a shot at brock Lesner? 905 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: Did I? 906 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 4: Did I pull that hair out of the soup? Luke? 907 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 4: Did you? 908 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 3: I think you're just I mean, come on, Luke, you 909 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, like, don't don't, don't be smirched 910 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 3: that guy, Luke. 911 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 4: I mean that penis tattoo sword on his chest. It's 912 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 4: coming for you, Luke. 913 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm desperately concerned. All right, for the rest 914 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: of the UFC two seventy two card, we'll have it 915 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,919 Speaker 1: on an extra credit here. After the show number four, BC, 916 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: Choko Latito got back to action against Julio Sesar Martinez 917 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: via unanimous decision. Now first thing's first, Choko Latito thirty 918 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: four years old. This was on to his own boy. 919 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: He beat the fucking breaks off of Martinez. I give 920 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: credit BC to Martinez for trying to put rallies together, 921 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 1: especially in that twolth round. Not even rallies, but maybe 922 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: just flurries, you know, just to just to kind of 923 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,240 Speaker 1: fight back a little bit with whatever way he could. 924 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: But dude, this was a master craftsman behind the wheel 925 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: of a steam roller, and there was nothing Martinez could do. 926 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: A how impressed were you? And b what specifically does 927 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: this win set up for Gonzales, which is. 928 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, they answer your final question first is just to say, 929 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 3: like this shows he certainly still got it at thirty four, 930 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 3: but this gets him right back to what this fight 931 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 3: should have been, which is, you know, a monster fight 932 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 3: the trilogy with Jan Franz Fisco Estrada for all the 933 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 3: belts there, or maybe even a third dance with Swisa 934 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 3: Cats or Rungviside. Now that Chuck Latito is is just 935 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 3: in a different place. Now, this this Twilight Tour. I 936 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 3: told you ahead of time. You know, watch this fight 937 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 3: and and savor it. Savor what this man is giving 938 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 3: us at a time in the career we're in this division. 939 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 4: You're you're done, you know. 940 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 3: And the fight was great to watch, even though it 941 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 3: became one sided. The spirit that Martinez shows. They were 942 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 3: talking up his his like elementary school playground, my ability, 943 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 3: and that's how he got his nickname the Iron Boy. Dude, 944 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 3: he still fights with that same exact spirit. They're like, yeah, 945 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 3: all of his classmates were like, he's made iron. We 946 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 3: can't keep him away from just mauling us and tearing 947 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 3: us to pieces. Dude, he's reckless. The form he throws 948 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 3: is all over the place. But he brought the wavos 949 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 3: even though he had a lot of weight problems that 950 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 3: almost canceled this fight. And you know, you have to 951 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 3: wonder if that if he was extra drained, even though 952 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,959 Speaker 3: he's the guy moving up in weight from one twelve 953 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 3: to one fifteen. You wonder if the next morning wiy 954 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 3: and he had to do to keep this fight from 955 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 3: getting canceled just zapped him out even more. But he 956 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 3: was going to be game, but it was also going 957 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 3: to be the perfect canvas for Chocolatito to show us 958 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 3: his artistry. 959 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 4: Luke, he's not as quick as he used to be. 960 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 3: His power isn't as massive here at this weight class, 961 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 3: Chuck Latito as it was in the smaller weight classes, 962 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 3: although he can still thump. 963 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 4: But tom if I'm wrong, dude, he's a joy to behold. 964 00:42:55,120 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 3: This isn't hardest, Like this guy's like his craft timing technique. 965 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 5: I Q. 966 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 3: I mean it's it's and he's and he's just a 967 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: classy dude, a proud nicaragu when a classy dude like 968 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 3: I love this man. Remember when when when Tommy Heinsen 969 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 3: would be like, I love Walter talking about McCarthy, that 970 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 3: Walter McCarty boner from from here to a handover mass Luke, 971 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 3: I got that for chocol latito right now. 972 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm rock hard with emotion. I love this man. 973 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: Uh, I don't quite feel these same sexual urges. However, 974 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: what I would say is I share all of the 975 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: general enthusiasm. Dude, if you are an MMA fan and 976 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: you have access to this fighter, you're a his own customer. 977 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: You are only cheating yourself. If you don't watch, nobody 978 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: loses except you. If you don't see this guy, he 979 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: is beyond special. And again, as BC indicated, he's not 980 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 1: even necessarily In fact, he's pretty much post prime at 981 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: this point. But he's still so good you just can't 982 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: believe it. Watch how many times we see he actually 983 00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: pushes uh Martinez back and forces Martinez constantly out of position, 984 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,479 Speaker 1: loosely so when he's even throwing those flurries, there's nothing 985 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: behind it because he has no stable structure. Meanwhile, you 986 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: heard the Sergio Martinez the commentator talk constantly about the 987 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: footwork and the balance of Gonzalez. Dude, he is constantly 988 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: in he is in good position, putting his opponents out 989 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: of good position, forward pressure angles the whole nine yards 990 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: and dude, I've never seen a guy that's never I 991 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,280 Speaker 1: haven't seen a guy in a long time stand guard 992 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 1: like this right in front of his opponent, motherfucker, right 993 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: in front of his opponent and make them miss constantly. 994 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: We're not talking making guys miss at mid range. I'm 995 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 1: talking making guys miss at close range, at pham booth range. 996 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: And he did it over and over and then would 997 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: counter offense on top of it. Dude, Martinez, this fight 998 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: turned at the forty four second mark of the first round, 999 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: and Choco Latito never looked back. If you don't watch 1000 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: this guy, you have only yourself to blame. You are 1001 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: missing out on a master craftsman who can still do 1002 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: elite work. 1003 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 3: And if you get thirsty for more, watch the Estrado 1004 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 3: rematch from last year, arguably the fight of the year, 1005 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 3: and watched those two fights with Sti Katsurrungvisa. 1006 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 4: That first one a thriller of a bloodbath, but uh 1007 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 4: luke good. 1008 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 3: Great to see him get his moment. Let's make the 1009 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 3: big fights. Let's keep it going, all right? 1010 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: Point number five. The other boxing event took place on 1011 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: Friday night. Interestingly, this one didn't have maybe quite as 1012 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: much buzz, but ended up being a much more competitive 1013 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,439 Speaker 1: affair than I think even you and I thought BC. 1014 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: So Jose Ramirez he did get the win that part, 1015 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,760 Speaker 1: win as expected over Jose Padraza. However, I would say 1016 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: it was pretty competitive. Padraza was game, Ramirez had enough 1017 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: tricks BC to get it done. True or false? So 1018 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,439 Speaker 1: answer that one for me and then tell me. Does 1019 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: this performance to you inspire confidence about his chances to 1020 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: reclaim a belt at one forty? 1021 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:50,720 Speaker 4: It really does. 1022 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 3: But what I love about it, and it's really it's 1023 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,439 Speaker 3: perfect that this is who Jose Ramirez is because he's 1024 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 3: so honest and humble and hard working and you know 1025 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 3: all those super He's like the guy you want, like 1026 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 3: growing up in the house next to you or to 1027 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 3: date your daughter. Like he puts that off and it's 1028 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 3: he had to kind of walk through some stuff like 1029 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 3: this was a close, competitive fight. It's him purposely not 1030 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 3: not accepting a soft match. You know, he's going right 1031 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 3: back in there, gets a top contender after you know, 1032 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 3: ten months gone lose his first loss, getting kind of 1033 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 3: handled in a close fight by a guy who just proved, 1034 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 3: in Josh Taylor, to be that. 1035 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 4: Much better than him. We were asking a lot of him. 1036 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 3: And not only was this fight great to watch, and 1037 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 3: I'll get into that in a second, Rameira's having to 1038 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 3: get hurt briefly a couple of times, having to make 1039 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 3: so many key adjustments, and then Petraw's a damn you 1040 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 3: gotta give this guy credit coming on in rounds eleven 1041 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 3: and twelve. And while Ramerez did feel the heat the 1042 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 3: way he closed round eleven after getting tagged up early, 1043 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 3: like yeah, Luke, with Josh Taylor exiting this division, he 1044 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 3: might be the guy right now that now the titles 1045 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 3: will end up having to be sort of vacated and 1046 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 3: golf into different directions in the galaxy while to start 1047 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 3: all over again at rebuilding matchups and trying to get 1048 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 3: back to an undisputed champion. 1049 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 4: But I wonder in some mythical powerful pound ranking. 1050 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 3: Of those who are at one point forty right now, 1051 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 3: not necessarily counting the guys that we think are moving 1052 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:11,479 Speaker 3: up soon. 1053 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 4: Ryan Garcia, Tank Davis. 1054 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 3: I think I like him number one again, just slightly 1055 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 3: above Regis Progray. 1056 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 4: Of course, you know a couple other very. 1057 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 3: Strong names that are that are that are still here 1058 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 3: or and again that are coming because Luke, the difference 1059 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 3: between oh sorry, my closing point about the humility after 1060 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 3: the fight for him to say, look, I'm not gonna 1061 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 3: lie to you. I got nervous for this fight, like 1062 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 3: you know, and this guy packs that arena in Fresno, 1063 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 3: and he represents the people of that valley, hard working valley, 1064 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 3: and it embodies them. And you know they packed that 1065 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 3: arena that that was a big time fight atmosphere, and 1066 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 3: he admitted, Luke, you know it was threatening to be 1067 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,760 Speaker 3: too much pressure for me to come back and improve 1068 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 3: it all over again. And the way he did prove 1069 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 3: it though, Luke, he's known for kind of being responsible, 1070 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 3: but being kind of straight ahead beside it behind his 1071 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 3: high guard and then he's creative with the combinations. He's 1072 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 3: adding so much more to his game and you can 1073 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,280 Speaker 3: see it. And he's got one of the best trainers 1074 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 3: in the game of Robert Garcia, but there was much 1075 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 3: more layers to what he does. For half the fight, 1076 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 3: he made Padraza, the natural counterpuncher, sort of come at him, 1077 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 3: which was brilliant because Ramerez would close the distance with 1078 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 3: pressure but then hang there and counter Padraza and then, 1079 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 3: you know, no counterpuncher likes to be consistently countered, and 1080 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 3: it was a constant sort of switch game of them 1081 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 3: making each other adjust but Rameirez's adjustments were better. This 1082 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 3: was a competitive and close fight, but he's still the 1083 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 3: guy Luke I saw arguably the best version of him, 1084 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 3: even though he had to overcome a little you know, 1085 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 3: he had to shake off a few big punches late 1086 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 3: in the later rounds. 1087 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have much to add to that except 1088 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 1: I thought the exact same thing as you. It was. 1089 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 1: Padraza gave a really good account of himself. But fighting, 1090 00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: if you go back and look at the highlights, for example, 1091 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 1: you just consistently or play it fast forward, what you'll 1092 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: consistently see is, you know, with obviously a couple exceptances 1093 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: here or there, long stretches of the fight with Padraza 1094 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,439 Speaker 1: along the ropes, and he did impressive work there. BC 1095 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 1: I thought, given the circumstances, I just thought, if Ramirez 1096 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: is going to be able to back you up, even 1097 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: if there are some counterpunching opportunities there or whatever, and 1098 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: he did have his own moments, that was just too 1099 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: much of a metaphorical and literal backfoot to beat Ramirez. 1100 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: That was not the best game plan to beat Ramirez, 1101 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: or at least not the one that I thought, well 1102 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: he could have. Yeah, I don't think that was a 1103 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: winning strategy beginning to end. However, the success he had 1104 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: with it was still quite admirable. Ultimately, I just thought 1105 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 1: Ramirez did enough of the dance leading to have Padraza 1106 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 1: follow and that made the difference over time. Is that 1107 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: a fact? 1108 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 4: This was? 1109 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 3: Yes, it is, And this was a Jose Padraza fight, 1110 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 3: which means like, it's so hard not to fall in 1111 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 3: love with him as a fighter because he's so smart 1112 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 3: and calculated and sneaky, and you know, he embodies that 1113 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 3: nickname of the sniper and his counter punching ability and 1114 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 3: he's game as heck. But Luke, as you sort of 1115 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 3: warned coming in, he does sort of level out when 1116 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 3: he faces the you know, elite level competition, and in 1117 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 3: some of those. 1118 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 4: Fights you want, you only you know he's one of 1119 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 4: It's like he's one of. 1120 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 3: Those guys like, man, if he just did a little 1121 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 3: bit more, if he was a little bit more busy 1122 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 3: and active, right, But I think what makes it frustrating 1123 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 3: to watch him is he's so damn elite or close 1124 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 3: to elite in a few different categories, but every time 1125 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 3: he tries to be great, he finds out he's just 1126 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 3: short of that. He's a very good fighter with some 1127 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 3: great tendencies, but man, he can't get over that highest 1128 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 3: hump and he you know, he made Ramirez work and 1129 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 3: he was still landing big shots late like we talked about, 1130 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 3: and I thought andre Ward was very critical of his 1131 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 3: of his strategy, but very fair too. 1132 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 4: It was a very you know, good night on the 1133 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 4: mic from Andrea. 1134 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 3: But this was the perfect test. I mean, this is 1135 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 3: a tough ass test, but Ramirez passed it. And Luke, 1136 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 3: I want to say one more thing. It's easy to 1137 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 3: to think Rameirez is overrated, and I fell for that 1138 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 3: for a long time because you know, he doesn't have 1139 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 3: fight ending power and he's not like a pure boxer. 1140 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,919 Speaker 3: He's sort of this aggressive hybrid of smart boxing under 1141 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 3: the pressure fighter category. 1142 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 4: But his intangibles, his IQ, he's really fucking good. 1143 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 3: I mean, like you know, he's ready right now to 1144 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 3: get right back on the horse. 1145 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 4: So I can't wait to see what happens. 1146 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 1: These were to your point. I like the point that 1147 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: you made, which was he didn't necessarily change a shit 1148 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,959 Speaker 1: ton round to round. It was tiny little adjustments about 1149 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,720 Speaker 1: what kind of space to give, what punch to select, 1150 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: when to throw, what set up to use, YadA YadA YadA, 1151 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: and so on in there, and he had to slowly 1152 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: implement it against the Pedraza who was also trying to 1153 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: play that game with him. This was a real I 1154 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 1: mean we always overused this constantly, but that was a 1155 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: real chess match, man. That was a real chess match 1156 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: where these guys said constantly having it was one move 1157 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: after the other. Right. 1158 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 3: It was that close to being my favorite type of fight, 1159 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 3: high speed chess. It was more in that category. It 1160 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 3: wasn't an all action fight, but there were great adjustments, 1161 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,800 Speaker 3: great skill, toughness, crowd environment. 1162 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,919 Speaker 4: This was a very fun I was entertained as heck 1163 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 4: watching this, so uh shout out to everybody involved there. 1164 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: All right, that is it for our top five. It 1165 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 1: is now time for you to ask us questions. It 1166 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: is time for dms from the digity. Don't you do these? 1167 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: Every Monday? You can email us Morning Combat at gmail 1168 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: dot com, of course, but that actually outs for Wednesdays 1169 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,320 Speaker 1: and Fridays. We put up a post on Instagram. Excuse me? 1170 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: What about post on Instagram every Sunday Morning Combat on Instagram? 1171 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: And then the producers pick five of those questions. All right, BC, 1172 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: Here we go first at the underscore or underscore, the Gibsonator, 1173 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: another underscore. If Dustin Poarrier beats Covington at one seventy, 1174 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: does that put him in a title fight? 1175 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 5: I guess, BC, I guess that's that's the formula for 1176 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 5: how a star navigates the UFC, you know, political matchmaking 1177 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 5: pay per view scheme, Like that's the best way to 1178 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,479 Speaker 5: do it, right, Yeah? 1179 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 4: I mean callby. 1180 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 3: Covington's he's still the number one contender, Luke, you know. 1181 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: Okay your head no, no, bs gun to your head? 1182 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: Does Poorier take that fight? Like make a call? 1183 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 4: No? 1184 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 1: No? 1185 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 4: Does he accept it or win it? As? 1186 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: Does he accept it? 1187 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 3: So I'm glad you brought that back up because I 1188 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,760 Speaker 3: meant to make this point earlier. 1189 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 4: I like what you said, or maybe he would just 1190 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 4: say f. 1191 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 3: You Colby and not give him the payday in the 1192 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 3: fight and the opportunity to sort of, you know, be 1193 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 3: a be a bashtard and do it on all you know, 1194 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 3: a large scale against his wife and child. 1195 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 4: Uh. But I think it. 1196 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 3: Comes down to what are Poorier's options in the moment. 1197 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 3: If Poorier has a bigger pay per view fight to make, 1198 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 3: he's gonna make it. But I think Poorier would be 1199 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 3: willing to do it knowing that there's real, you know, 1200 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 3: real necessary motivation in there to want to punch this 1201 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 3: guy right in the damn face. 1202 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,359 Speaker 4: And also it's gonna move, it's gonna make him money. 1203 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 3: And that's I think where Poorier is not in some selfish, 1204 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 3: you know way, but you know he's he's a humanitarian 1205 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,839 Speaker 3: in a lot of ways too. But I think that's 1206 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,399 Speaker 3: what he's chasing big fish. If Colby's the biggest fish 1207 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 3: of the moment, I think he takes it. 1208 00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:58,319 Speaker 1: Luke. 1209 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 3: I do think though, that the concerns you showed about 1210 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 3: how bad of a matchup is for for Pourier are 1211 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 3: are legit, absolutely legit. 1212 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he's Colby's bigger. And then you know, Dustin 1213 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: was joking on Twitter the other day like about some 1214 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 1: pain that I think was like some you know tweet 1215 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 1: had gone viral, like giving birth is the most pain 1216 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 1: a human can suffer, and and he quote to it 1217 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: and be like, you ever been choked out from the 1218 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: back twice in two title fights? You know, just sort 1219 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,840 Speaker 1: of saying, like the pain of that, not like the 1220 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: literal pain, but the significance of it really bothered him. Yeah, 1221 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, you would imagine Colby's not like Demian Meyer 1222 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 1: from the back, but he can get there and he 1223 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: can threaten with it. I don't know, man, that's a 1224 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: bad fight in. 1225 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 3: Our producer Mikey Morma reminded me that Dustin did give 1226 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 3: that comment where he said he wouldn't let Colby make 1227 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 3: money off of him and that he would fight Kobe 1228 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 3: outside of the ring for free. And you know, and 1229 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 3: I get that this is something that rightfully Dustin as 1230 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 3: a man is. 1231 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 4: Like, nah, f you. But I also think he's a businessman, Luke. 1232 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 4: So that's that's the point of that. 1233 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: From at custom props one, would it benefit the uf 1234 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: C to make more non title pay per view main events. 1235 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,799 Speaker 1: Would there's stars like das Masvidal and Connor and then 1236 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: stack pay per view cards with multiple low selling champions, 1237 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 1: In other words, make three title fight pay per views 1238 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: with low selling pay per view champions. What do you think? 1239 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 4: All? 1240 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 1: Right? 1241 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 3: So, what he's specifically asking and it's not that we 1242 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 3: don't ever see non title pay per views, it's just 1243 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 3: rare in this era, right, it used to be a 1244 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 3: thing that happened a lot more when there weren't as 1245 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 3: many options or weight divisions or what have you. But 1246 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 3: specifically putting non title attractive fight pay per views, grudge matches, 1247 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,800 Speaker 3: whatever have you, all action fights and putting title fights 1248 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 3: below it. Yeah, I think that would be a smart move. 1249 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 3: And they've gone what they've gone against that, right, they 1250 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 3: never wanted, you know, the top of fight always has 1251 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 3: to be a top at the end of. 1252 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 1: That's even so that's the part. It's like, from a 1253 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 1: commercial standpoint, would it makes sense to put let's just 1254 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: make something up das Masvidal two, put that at the 1255 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: top of the card and then put somebody like Chefchenko 1256 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 1: who is obviously well respected but not like the biggest sales. 1257 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:00,400 Speaker 1: Uh story, make a. 1258 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 4: Ton of sense? 1259 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 3: It would make a tough and it's surprising they don't 1260 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 3: already do that because they make a lot of decisions 1261 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 3: that we debate on this show, whether that was controversial 1262 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 3: or not fair or whatever. The business always wins out, Luke. 1263 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 3: You know, they always figure out what's best for business 1264 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 3: in a very McMahon like way. 1265 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1266 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,839 Speaker 1: That's all true. I don't disagree, but here's where I'm 1267 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: at BC. It's like, dude, what's wrong with the UFC 1268 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,919 Speaker 1: business in terms of their ability to succeed? Basically nothing? Yeah, 1269 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,239 Speaker 1: they're killing it. If anything, they're a monopoly, right, that's 1270 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 1: the bordering on it, depending on one's perspective, like they 1271 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,879 Speaker 1: are the eight hundred pound guerrilla in this industry times 1272 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 1: a thousand. So the question you have to ask yourself 1273 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 1: is what is it to be gained by doing that? 1274 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 1: Guess there are something to be gained, and it's not 1275 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 1: even to say that if they did a dias maas 1276 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: wat Aal two and then Chevchenko as the Comaine or 1277 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 1: something that Chefchenko wouldn't also benefit. But there also is 1278 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: something to be said for, like respecting weight class champions 1279 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 1: and giving them their due as people where. Yes, we 1280 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 1: might suffer a little bit on the sales end by 1281 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: how we position who's on cards and where, but we 1282 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 1: are going to honor what these champions mean to us 1283 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 1: by giving them pre eminent billing. I would hate to 1284 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,359 Speaker 1: lose out on that. I could understand this argument if 1285 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 1: the business was suffering, but yeah, killing it. 1286 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 3: So why I mean with that, with that ESPN deal alone, 1287 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 3: this is pretty much a non starter, right, Like they 1288 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 3: don't like of course they make aggressive pay per view 1289 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 3: main event decisions to make the matchups even like that's 1290 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 3: why you would see OLIVERA. McGregor for example, you know 1291 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 3: this year if if this star is aligned or what 1292 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 3: have you. I mean, it's why it would make a 1293 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 3: lot of sense. But yeah, they don't need to And 1294 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 3: I and I miss those days. You true false, Luke. 1295 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 4: And Dana is what he is? 1296 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 3: What he is, I mean, Dana's is, Dana White is 1297 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 3: entertaining as shit, whatever you want to say about him 1298 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 3: when he's on the microphone, like it's a thing, like 1299 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 3: you watch it and of course like like he's that's why, 1300 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 3: it's part of why he's so successful. 1301 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 4: But but I don't know where I was going with that. Luke, 1302 00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 4: I fell right off the side of the cliff, all right, 1303 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 4: you know I'll. 1304 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 3: Take the eighth delta flight on the web, Jane, I wish, 1305 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 3: I wish I did though, I wish I'd get the 1306 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 3: extra leg room to find my find my brain again. 1307 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 4: But you know, hey, we had a good run. 1308 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: We had a great run for as long as it lasted. 1309 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 1: PC from at TJ Underscore Podro Do you guys believe 1310 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Turner could be a contender at one fifty five? 1311 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: Seems like he is huge for the division so far, 1312 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 1: has looked great on the scale and is just efing 1313 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 1: people up. Think he's a problem for a lot of guys. 1314 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: You see his wins to date. He has two losses 1315 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,920 Speaker 1: to Luke and Frivola. Theola one was by decision. He 1316 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: got finished by Luke, but he has a win on 1317 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 1: the Contender series Callan Potter Joshua Cooley boo. Then it 1318 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 1: starts to turn up a little bit brock Weaver and 1319 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 1: then his last two euro Schmititch who is very good, 1320 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 1: and then of course this last one Jamie Malarkey. What 1321 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 1: do you think PC? 1322 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 4: I think I remember what I was gonna say about 1323 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 4: taking a white Luke that. 1324 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 1: It is a great show. 1325 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 4: I think it's for I can't Luke. Yeah, yeah, we're 1326 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 4: right great, We're on out, We're right great. 1327 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, did you miss did you miss 1328 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 3: the old hungry, desperate data That's what I was gonna ask, 1329 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 3: did you miss the guy that still would do some 1330 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 3: questionable things, but it was about elevating the sport and the. 1331 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 4: Brand, and like, do you miss that guy? It's like 1332 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 4: there's still a good part of that guy in there. 1333 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 4: Of course. I mean, they're they're monstrously successful, but he's 1334 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 4: not fueled by that anymore, Luke. He's still fueled by 1335 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 4: fuck you, but not exactly like that. 1336 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, not exactly, Like, let's make the sport look the 1337 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: best in all circumstances. You know, I had five red 1338 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 1: bulls this morning kind of thing. Uh, that part is 1339 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: probably missing. But dude, if you've had this much success, 1340 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 1: it's just not possible to maintain that kind of you know, 1341 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: fucking game seven, Bottom of. 1342 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 3: The Night, right, and you'll burn the shit out too. 1343 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 3: You'll burn Luke. I have moments where I burn out too, 1344 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 3: or I'm like, man, I you know I can't. I 1345 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 3: can't keep this all at this level? 1346 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 4: Can I and then you know me? 1347 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 1: The are we the data and Lorenzo? Is that who 1348 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: we are? 1349 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 4: Why? Why do the do the No? 1350 00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 1: I won't make that joke. I can't. 1351 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 4: I can't make that joke. They'd remove me. 1352 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 3: All right, Luke, you ask me about Jayalen Turner. The 1353 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 3: Tarantalla looked fantastic. 1354 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 4: What was the spirit of the question? Is he a 1355 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,439 Speaker 4: future title challenger? Is that what you're asking? 1356 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: What do you think? What's his upside? Basically, this fight 1357 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: was a. 1358 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 4: Great step forward in extending that, Luke. 1359 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 3: I'm not fully convinced yet, but this is like, oh, 1360 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 3: he's not just some attraction now because his nickname is 1361 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 3: the Tarantula and he's got weird spider's crown all over 1362 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 3: the videos that we see, Luke, the guy's actually talented 1363 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 3: and explosive. But you are seeing the techniques start to 1364 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 3: come together, the game planning. He's on his way there, Luke, 1365 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 3: I still want to see improve me, prove me right. 1366 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, exactly. Here's the thing. He is twenty six 1367 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: years old. Twenty six Let's pump the brakes, everybody. We 1368 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 1: don't have to rush him anywhere. I'm not saying that 1369 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: the spirit of the question necessarily says that. But anytime 1370 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 1: we're like, oh man, this young guy looks really good, 1371 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 1: we're all of a sudden like, well, who could he beat? 1372 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 1: He can probably be beat lots of guys, but let's 1373 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 1: get him to a point where he is doing it systemically. 1374 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 1: He is doing it carefully, He is doing in a 1375 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: planned and coordinated manner. Because if he asked me, these 1376 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: wins that he has, they're nice. But he does have 1377 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 1: those two losses granted to a very very very good 1378 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,280 Speaker 1: Vicente Luke, and that was, you know, in twenty eighteen, 1379 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,840 Speaker 1: four years ago, and in the case but I was 1380 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: gonna say the case of his last two, No, those 1381 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 1: were much better opponents, and he dispatched with both of 1382 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 1: them as well. So it's the last two that tells 1383 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: you he's really beginning to turn the corner. But BC, 1384 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, we still need to see a little bit 1385 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: more of him tested later in fights. What happens if 1386 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 1: guys don't fall into traps and he's in the third round, 1387 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 1: What does this cardio look like? He's twenty six, so 1388 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,920 Speaker 1: he looks awesome, But there's a lot of time left 1389 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 1: before we really have to ask broader questions about that. 1390 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 3: That was an aggressive opponent who brought a little lot 1391 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 3: of him. So it was good to see that for sure, Luke, 1392 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 3: what can the fans hope for? 1393 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 4: On extra credit. 1394 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Today, Jalen Turner, we're gonna talk about We're gonna talk 1395 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: about Vin Holland as well. Kevin Holland quietly had a 1396 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 1: very good performance, albeit it took a little while to 1397 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 1: get going, but once he did, he was all in. 1398 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about seragey bit back Marina Hadriguez lots 1399 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 1: of folks, so I'm being to look up for that 1400 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 1: later today. All right at Underscore, why do you have 1401 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 1: a question? 1402 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 3: No, I just like to advertise our stuff. I want 1403 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 3: people to buy it, you know, so I want you 1404 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 3: know I'm not gonna watch it. I'm sure it's gonna 1405 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 3: be great though. 1406 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:24,520 Speaker 1: You know what, I actually believe you this stuff. All right, Uh, 1407 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 1: b C, this one's all for you. How does Tim 1408 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Zu do in his American debut? And do you see 1409 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 1: little brother Nikita's pro debut? 1410 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 4: Nikita will be making a brief appearance. And have you 1411 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 4: seen this ship very shortly? 1412 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 1: Uh? 1413 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 3: There are there are reports out there, Luke that Timsu 1414 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 3: is gonna gonna headline a Showtime card against Terrell Goshe. 1415 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 4: I know that Showtime is. 1416 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 3: Is going to unveil the full schedule this week, and 1417 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 3: and you know, you see some of these potential reports 1418 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 3: or whispers and it's looking strong. But uh, dude, this 1419 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 3: is Tim Zu's moment. I mean, that's a tough opponent 1420 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 3: and it's tough to do this to to fly over, 1421 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 3: but this is the right time to do it. Let's 1422 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 3: make it an events, make it a spectacle. And yeah, 1423 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 3: I think you got a favor for him to win. 1424 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna show you what he has in 1425 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 3: the moment. I just can't wait to see what Terrelle 1426 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 3: Gochet makes him show, because you know that guy can 1427 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 3: a couple of times where you're like, you thought he 1428 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 3: was better and he's found a plateau. But then there's 1429 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 3: other times where you know, Goche let his hands go 1430 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 3: and he's got that amateur background and be like, oh man, 1431 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 3: that guy. Guy's a tough ass out. So this is 1432 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 3: a great matchup in that regard where we're gonna find 1433 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 3: that out. But if I'm gonna guess whether Tim Zoo 1434 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 3: shines or not. Right now, the stocks on Tim Zoo shining, 1435 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 3: ask you. 1436 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 1: Real quick for folks who are more familiar with his father, 1437 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: and they may not know too much about Tim Zoo, 1438 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 1: give me, like the the twenty second pitch. What is 1439 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 1: it about Tim Zoo that excites you so much? 1440 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,440 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, just the way he attacks to 1441 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 3: the body with the left hand and the hooks is 1442 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 3: impressive and aggressive and it stands out. And his dad 1443 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 3: was a boxer puncher, but a guy who can bang, 1444 01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 3: but his dad was a little bit more on his 1445 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 3: toes larading in and out. Tim's solid and I don't 1446 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 3: I mean that not only in the stance, in the 1447 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 3: way that he attacks works behind the jab, very very 1448 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 3: good technique, but his temperament, Luke is seems to be 1449 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 3: uh something special there and that that's not it's not 1450 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 3: a surprise if you grew up as the son of 1451 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer and you you know, and you 1452 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 3: probably traveled with him and idolized him and went to 1453 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 3: every event. 1454 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 4: I mean this, this should feel normal for you, and 1455 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 4: it seems to feel very normal for him. 1456 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 3: And sometimes that doesn't matter in the end, and sometimes 1457 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 3: that gives you a reason to be so confident when 1458 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 3: you haven't seen improve of yet. 1459 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: And then last but not least, we see at Ross Rusty. 1460 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 1: Did you guys see the new Batman movie? And also 1461 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,040 Speaker 1: which is both of your favorite Batman movies? You see? 1462 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 1: What do you think? 1463 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 4: I did not see this new one, Luke? Have you 1464 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 4: that everyone's talking about? 1465 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 1: No, I had. I had violetta duty by myself. My 1466 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,680 Speaker 1: entire family is in Colombia. 1467 01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, and you saw that when you had 1468 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 3: your technical meltdown this morning. I think it was very 1469 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 3: fueled by by poor sleep and overparenting. 1470 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 1: It was like, I've not slept much in a few days, 1471 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 1: so I'm just like, like I was. 1472 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have been surprised if you were like you 1473 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 3: fucking kids listened to me, you know, I mean just 1474 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 3: been like you know, I mean, you were like daddy 1475 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:19,960 Speaker 3: pants and gaff in me. 1476 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:20,760 Speaker 4: But that's fine. 1477 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, BC I was. I was frustrated. 1478 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,040 Speaker 1: I was frustrated. Okay, I apologize formally. I mean that, Uh, 1479 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 1: your favorite Batman movie is what? 1480 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 4: Dude? 1481 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 3: You remember we did the homework on MK MK COVID 1482 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 3: homework on uh the First Dark Night, Luke? 1483 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 1: Yes? Or did we do it on the second one, 1484 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,120 Speaker 1: I think it was the first one was with the Scarecrow, 1485 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 1: second one was with h was it? 1486 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:45,560 Speaker 3: Uh? 1487 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I had seen this second. 1488 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 1: One was the heath Ledger joker. 1489 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 3: The second one that one, Luke, that one is untouchable. 1490 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 3: But I haven't seen them all, and I'm not like 1491 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 3: an officionado, So I'm just kind of talking about outside 1492 01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 3: my ass a little. 1493 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 4: But my ass is been been places. 1494 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 1: Look, I mean I'm not Yeah, wow, hey, what happened 1495 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 1: to the Twitter account morning combat? No context? Because that 1496 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 1: would have been perfect for that. 1497 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, sometimes we stumble into a hole like baby Jessica. Look, 1498 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 3: and you know it happens, right, that's a deep damn. 1499 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 1: Deep people know the Baby Jessica reference. These are like 1500 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties kids references that we all did that. 1501 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 1: I don't think any of our fucking audience knows I 1502 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 1: was gonna say. I will say this. That's why. 1503 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 4: That's why they haven't shut me down for those John 1504 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 4: Beney jokes, Luke, that's why. Okay, nobody know where he 1505 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:40,480 Speaker 4: gets them anymore. 1506 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 1: Nobody knows like Jean Binet, who was that some kind 1507 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 1: of French waiter? Who is that what I was gonna 1508 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 1: say was BC two things. One I've not seen the movie, 1509 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,400 Speaker 1: although I find it weird that every new generation tries 1510 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,960 Speaker 1: to make Batman darker and grittier than the last one. 1511 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 1: It's like, you don't have to do that. But okay, uh, 1512 01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm with you. The Heath Ledger Dark KNIGHTE is probably 1513 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 1: the best one. I will say honorable mention to all 1514 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 1: of the animated Batman movies. And there was one that 1515 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 1: was done by a Japanese firm that makes it sort 1516 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,280 Speaker 1: of does like it's like an alternate reality where Batman 1517 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 1: and Joker are in like nineteenth century Japan and their 1518 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 1: showguns and uh samurais and they're sort of fighting for control. 1519 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 1: That one was actually weird but very interesting and cool. 1520 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,440 Speaker 1: So check that one. 1521 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 4: And and Fast to the Furious Tokyo Drift I think 1522 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:31,800 Speaker 4: was the best one. So I'm not I don't I'm 1523 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 4: not surprised. 1524 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 1: Look, okay, you know what I'm saying, dude. 1525 01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 4: And that one, that's that's a great movie, Dude, that's 1526 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 4: great movie. 1527 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,440 Speaker 1: Is there is there anyone on earth who a likes 1528 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 1: the Fast and the Furious movies in like a real 1529 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 1: way and be past high school algebra is there? Does 1530 01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 1: that does that ven diagram overlap at all? 1531 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 4: Does it have a January sixth connection? I don't know 1532 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 4: about that, Luke. Can we show shit yet? 1533 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 1: We gotta? Yeah, I let's show your ship. BC. We're done. Yeah, 1534 01:07:58,200 --> 01:07:58,640 Speaker 1: where's you go? 1535 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 3: We scoured the globe, the his and lows, the good, 1536 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 3: the bad, the ugly, the in between, in combat sports 1537 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 3: and beyond. 1538 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 4: This one's called have you seen this shit? 1539 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 5: Uh? 1540 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 1: You know who is back from the park and banging 1541 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 1: on my door? I don't know if you can hear it? 1542 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, he my guy. 1543 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 3: I need to see Uncle Gringo's glasses. Now that's a 1544 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 3: good deterrent, Luke. 1545 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 4: Right, you should send all of her prospective boyfriends to 1546 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 4: me over zoom. 1547 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,000 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I can't believe that in that state of 1548 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 1: my life, Mia Moore, I'm working. 1549 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, hey, Luke. 1550 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,719 Speaker 3: We started UFC two seventy two in Las Vegas. Cowboy 1551 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 3: Olavera getting his Johnny Walker on in the prep point. 1552 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,599 Speaker 3: I know Cowboy's done this before, Luke, but I'll tell 1553 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 3: I could tell you with with with probably a good 1554 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:45,679 Speaker 3: deal of accuracy. 1555 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 1: He Fox, Luke, you know what I'm saying doesn't he 1556 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 1: have like seventy nine thousand children or something? 1557 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 4: I don't know, but that's uh. 1558 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 1: Who was it, dude? Who was the guy who played 1559 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,760 Speaker 1: for the Jets? Was it Cromarty who had like ten 1560 01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: kids or whatever? 1561 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, that's a fait's. 1562 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 1: He's the he's the crom of the of the UFC. 1563 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 1: Just like a fuck load of kids man's white condoms. 1564 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 4: You'll be talking Kevin Holland on extra credit. 1565 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: But after this, hold on, hold on, I mean this is. 1566 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh boy, you come on, coming on, hey, tukey, 1567 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 3: if you're coming on, come on, all right. 1568 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 1: Come here, everyone that I love you very much. Oh 1569 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,880 Speaker 1: you don't want to say high Look, look how. 1570 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:35,560 Speaker 4: Sad she is? 1571 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 1: Hey? 1572 01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 4: Hey tu key, two key, two key, tukey. 1573 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 6: Do you want to see Uncle Gringo's glasses again? Yeah, 1574 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 6: that's assumed, you know, Yeah, all right, all right, Oh 1575 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:54,600 Speaker 6: there she is. 1576 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 4: Look that's great. 1577 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 1: Go ahead, we got yeah, we don't. 1578 01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,760 Speaker 4: We don't have child abuse on. Have you seen this 1579 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:00,320 Speaker 4: ship this week? 1580 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,800 Speaker 1: So we should be good. Luke, you want me to 1581 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 1: beat you up? 1582 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,040 Speaker 4: You want to go to the park splash pad, Luke, 1583 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 4: she wants the splash pad. 1584 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 1: Let's keep going with the show. I'm sorry about this, PC, 1585 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 1: I just yeah, yeah, because there's no control over god Zilla. 1586 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:21,240 Speaker 4: Wow. Wow, Luke. Kevin Holland got put in a choke 1587 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 4: at the end of round. Why, I've never seen this before. 1588 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:24,800 Speaker 4: He's like, no, no, I'm good. I'm good, Luke, I'm good. 1589 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 1: The arm with an arm in rear, naked choke, those 1590 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 1: can work, by the way, but it's very difficult. 1591 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, Kevin Holland always always showing you that that the swagger. 1592 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 1: I like it. 1593 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,200 Speaker 3: He was so swaggery, Luke that after his victory he 1594 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 3: did he pulled the tie to or no, he pulled 1595 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 3: the Derek Lewis excuse me, put some respect on that 1596 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 3: and removed his cop and and tossed it to a 1597 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 3: to a lucky fan. 1598 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 4: Luke. 1599 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,680 Speaker 1: That is beyond disgusting. I mean, what are these people doing. 1600 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,599 Speaker 1: I'm gonna drink out of your shoe and then breathe 1601 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:54,280 Speaker 1: out of your cup. 1602 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 3: I mean, if if I was gonna say, if somebody 1603 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,560 Speaker 3: gifted you that knowing that you're a huge UFC, like 1604 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:07,599 Speaker 3: if Tony Ferguson, Luke, Yeah, no, no, I can't. 1605 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 1: This is it's all. It's just what has happening with 1606 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,720 Speaker 1: my No, no, no, okay, all right, this dude, I 1607 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,720 Speaker 1: mean we're stuck here. I'm stuck here. This is my 1608 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 1: this has been my weekend. I'm stuck here. 1609 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, okay, this is. 1610 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't slept. This is what I've been 1611 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,080 Speaker 1: doing for seventy two hours. 1612 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know I forgive you for Yeah, this 1613 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 4: is okay. All right, Luke. I don't know if we're 1614 01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,840 Speaker 4: appropriate anymore. But look, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. 1615 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,640 Speaker 3: Did you see Tim Elliott hold the glove of tageir Ulambekov, 1616 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,679 Speaker 3: which really pissed off coach Habibe Luke. 1617 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that's insane. I mean you can grab the 1618 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 1: glove obviously on the top of it, and you can 1619 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,360 Speaker 1: grab your own glove, which people don't realize you can't 1620 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,360 Speaker 1: grab someone else's glove like that. That's what you all 1621 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 1: Romero did to Tim Kennedy. 1622 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 3: Uh, this is part of the high Hi, not Moicano 1623 01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,799 Speaker 3: ending Luke where he he got pretty angry, I believe. 1624 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,000 Speaker 3: To tell me if I'm wrong, that Moi Kana who 1625 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 3: threw blood all over and vehemently pushed back the cutman 1626 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 3: and the commission members. I think he was mad that 1627 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,200 Speaker 3: he thought our DA was taking it easy on him, Luke, 1628 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 3: and he didn't. 1629 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 4: Want to get embarrassed that way. He wanted to be 1630 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,439 Speaker 4: He's like, you know, end me. You know what I'm saying. 1631 01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 4: It was very obi Wan episode four at the end, Luke. 1632 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 1: It was more like Anakin at the end of episode four. 1633 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:31,040 Speaker 4: To be honest with you, Anakin was Vader at four, Luke. 1634 01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,360 Speaker 1: Okay, oh at four? Yes, what am I saying? I'm 1635 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 1: in at three? Sorry about that? All right? 1636 01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 4: All right, hey, Luke, let's keep it going. 1637 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,479 Speaker 3: Brian boom Keller, her friend of the show, did not 1638 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:43,439 Speaker 3: get the win against good Lord another new Margot Metof 1639 01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,640 Speaker 3: who looks like a future champion, but he did get 1640 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,439 Speaker 3: the spinning back fist bump from Bruce Buffer. 1641 01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Luke, Let's see that stuff's a little played 1642 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 1: out to me. The fighters love it, and I guess 1643 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:56,640 Speaker 1: if they love it, that's great. I don't seem to 1644 01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:57,559 Speaker 1: think it's all that interesting. 1645 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:03,000 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Luke real, Luke Real is gonna recognize real? 1646 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:07,320 Speaker 3: Even backstage at UFC two seven two, here's a NFL 1647 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:12,519 Speaker 3: and partying legend Michael Irvin posing with Kamaro Usmann. Luke, 1648 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:19,000 Speaker 3: we couldn't last ten minutes in Michael Irvin's after hours 1649 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,280 Speaker 3: world in the nineteen nineties. 1650 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 1: Luke, I don't think we could last ten minutes in 1651 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 1: his after world now? No, no, no, I mean, can 1652 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,760 Speaker 1: you imagine the kind of parties and the things he's seen. 1653 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm done. No, that one's like, why is he so 1654 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,240 Speaker 1: happy all the time? I don't know. He's lived a 1655 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,720 Speaker 1: marvelous life and he's wealthy. I mean, wouldn't you be 1656 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 1: got a great TV job? 1657 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an you know, kind of like an ambassador 1658 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:43,200 Speaker 4: to the sport. 1659 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, revered hero of America's most popular game. You know 1660 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:48,240 Speaker 1: there it is Luke? 1661 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,320 Speaker 4: All right, de Zone Boxing from San Diego. 1662 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 3: Luke, just three months after the life threatening motorcycle crash 1663 01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:59,679 Speaker 3: and spine surgery, Charlott's ring announcer David Diamante returning to work. 1664 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,880 Speaker 4: I saw that fast there, Yeah, then I thought was possible. 1665 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 4: Well done, sir. 1666 01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:09,519 Speaker 1: Didn't he break like seven or eight major bones or something? 1667 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,360 Speaker 1: I guess not. I don't know what happened to him, but. 1668 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 3: I mean he turned this around insanely quick. So a 1669 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 3: lot of determination in that fellow so glack. Congrats Luke 1670 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,519 Speaker 3: on this card unbeating Diego Pacheco with a brutal ko 1671 01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 3: two of Jenk Pilana. 1672 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,559 Speaker 4: Did you see this ship. 1673 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 1: Only on replay? Yes? Oh my god, oh goly something 1674 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:34,200 Speaker 1: that was some. 1675 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,200 Speaker 4: Ray Mercer Tommy Morrison ship on the way down. Damn well. 1676 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,559 Speaker 1: He had his hands down and this dude just let 1677 01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 1: him have it. Right. He steps in, Let's see what 1678 01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,280 Speaker 1: he's doing. He faints, goes over the top and then 1679 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,559 Speaker 1: steps through almost whitch his stances with the left hook. 1680 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he look on the same card. This one might 1681 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:48,960 Speaker 4: even be better. 1682 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,200 Speaker 3: Did you see Mauricio Bronco Lara, who of course had 1683 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,439 Speaker 3: that two fight series in that upset of Josh Warrington 1684 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,200 Speaker 3: beating the buzzer to end the round to finish off 1685 01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 3: Emilio Sanchez. 1686 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,000 Speaker 1: I did see this one. This one made the high 1687 01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,519 Speaker 1: lights too, and this one could have been this one. 1688 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,560 Speaker 1: I was supprot well, I mean, look at this. He 1689 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,280 Speaker 1: hangs on here and then this dude just lets him. 1690 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:14,160 Speaker 1: Look at the body punching. Good lord, all right, I'll 1691 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 1: walk you down, yep. 1692 01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 4: Finish him. Shit, dude, dude, that's gotta be the k 1693 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:22,880 Speaker 4: over the year. 1694 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,479 Speaker 1: Holy crap, dude, those when it happens at MMA A 1695 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,360 Speaker 1: little bit less so a little bit more in boxing. 1696 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,160 Speaker 1: But these ones where they fall backwards but their knees 1697 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,280 Speaker 1: are in front, like they're the knees over toes. Guy, 1698 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,639 Speaker 1: that is that is that is always a vis shit 1699 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,479 Speaker 1: knockout gaff. 1700 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:40,640 Speaker 4: Can we go full screen here? 1701 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,720 Speaker 3: We talked about the legend Chocolatito Roman Gonzales and my 1702 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,360 Speaker 3: love for him. Let's just admire his work for a second. No, 1703 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,640 Speaker 3: not only do soft footwork, but that you know he 1704 01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,760 Speaker 3: won't even always throw a full speed Luke to get 1705 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,960 Speaker 3: off these four or five punch combinations and everything is accurate, 1706 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,759 Speaker 3: and he's moving and he's never I mean, just a master. 1707 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 1: Dude. Watch how often he put again, Watch how often 1708 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,840 Speaker 1: he's in position and how often he pushes like this 1709 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,880 Speaker 1: Martinez out of position even if he doesn't land, he 1710 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:09,599 Speaker 1: pushes him out. 1711 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,439 Speaker 3: Great shit, great shit from the legend here, Luke, let's 1712 01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 3: go to the hardwood. Rough moment for former NBA player 1713 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,599 Speaker 3: Shabaz Muhammad on this breakaway in the Filipino Basketball League. 1714 01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:27,560 Speaker 4: Oh boy, that's uh yeah, I mean you're not supposed. 1715 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 1: To wear this our free throw shooting contest is not 1716 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:30,519 Speaker 1: more glorious than this. 1717 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're not supposed to wear the Cedric Sabalis 1718 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,519 Speaker 3: blindfold during the game, Luke, that's not good at all. 1719 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,080 Speaker 3: All right, Hey, what a week for Canalo Alvarez. The 1720 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,240 Speaker 3: first face off Luke of his May seventh light heavyweight 1721 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,280 Speaker 3: title bout with Dimitri Bevall came out at the kickoff 1722 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 3: pressure in San Diego, and Luke, you can see the 1723 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 3: very legitimate size difference, as as we talked about Bevall, 1724 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,679 Speaker 3: a very very legit one seventy five or unbeaten great boxer. 1725 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,960 Speaker 3: But this is a stylistically going to be a very 1726 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:00,799 Speaker 3: interesting challenge challenge. 1727 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,320 Speaker 1: Bivoll, to me, a little bit smaller than covial Lev. 1728 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,400 Speaker 1: I thought covial lev was taller than Canelo in ways 1729 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,519 Speaker 1: that Bivoll was not obviously Bivoll's bigger, right, But yeah, 1730 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,520 Speaker 1: wasn't covid Leve a lot taller. 1731 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,519 Speaker 3: A lot taller, But he he chose to box to 1732 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,560 Speaker 3: stay safe rather than punch against Canelo, which was Coveleev's 1733 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,519 Speaker 3: calling card, which made that fight so kind of weird. 1734 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,479 Speaker 3: But you had a great victory for Canelo. Also, Luke, 1735 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:25,599 Speaker 3: let's go to the sound here. You remember I had 1736 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,439 Speaker 3: Oscar dale Hoya on this show and you can listen 1737 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,839 Speaker 3: to that interview at YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat. 1738 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,639 Speaker 4: And he did say, yea, you know the Canelo Ryan 1739 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:34,320 Speaker 4: Garcia beef. 1740 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 3: We're gonna settle it in the ring one day, three 1741 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,080 Speaker 3: to four years from now at one hundred and sixty 1742 01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:38,679 Speaker 3: five pounds. 1743 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,800 Speaker 4: They asked Big Red Luke, What'scadela? 1744 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:44,960 Speaker 6: Joya said that you and Ryan Garcia could potentially fight 1745 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:45,639 Speaker 6: in the Futudi show. 1746 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:52,960 Speaker 4: Comment, that's yoking, is yoking, Luke, that they're just that's 1747 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:57,360 Speaker 4: just just yoking. But uh, Canelo is a badass. 1748 01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,720 Speaker 1: Hey, don't yoke about that. My wife just like that. 1749 01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,920 Speaker 1: So it's all right, bro. Is Daddy Yanki is one 1750 01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:09,000 Speaker 1: of my favoriteuke Daddy yank Old. Here's old Yaki's yogurt. 1751 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,880 Speaker 4: And look at these two, uh, these two boxing lovers. 1752 01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:13,040 Speaker 1: Here. 1753 01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,120 Speaker 3: Promoter Eddie Hearn putting his arm around can Now this 1754 01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:16,439 Speaker 3: is totally aimed at Oscar. 1755 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 4: This could be us, but you play. 1756 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:23,760 Speaker 1: In right, Uh yeah, Eddie heard his talle as shit. 1757 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 4: By the way, dude, he's six seven. People forget that 1758 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,120 Speaker 4: he's a he's a dashing gentleman. 1759 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,080 Speaker 1: Luke I said he's tall as fuck. 1760 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,200 Speaker 4: Yeah he is all right, and finally Canelo exiting the 1761 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:37,720 Speaker 4: parking lot in his twenty nineteen Bugatti Chiron, which he 1762 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,679 Speaker 4: purchased Luke for three point zero four million. 1763 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,759 Speaker 1: Now, BC, is this nicer than my twenty fifteen Mazda 1764 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:45,719 Speaker 1: c X five. 1765 01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,639 Speaker 4: By a by a bit, Luke? I mean good? 1766 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:49,599 Speaker 1: What does it do? Is it fly? 1767 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:50,920 Speaker 4: He paid three million for it? 1768 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:51,160 Speaker 1: Luke? 1769 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:52,919 Speaker 4: What the hell does it do? Is have a slushy 1770 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:53,479 Speaker 4: machine in it? 1771 01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:58,799 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, dude, they I mean my wife 1772 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,120 Speaker 1: one time. You can do this. You can pay to 1773 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,920 Speaker 1: drive a luxury automobile around a racetrack. Have you ever 1774 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:05,280 Speaker 1: done that? 1775 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,800 Speaker 4: I haven't, but it sounds fun as crap. 1776 01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,400 Speaker 1: Sounds fun as balls. Except this is before the weight 1777 01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,040 Speaker 1: game too. By the way, I couldn't fit in a McLaren. 1778 01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,559 Speaker 1: I was too tall for the McLaren so they put 1779 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,679 Speaker 1: me in What did they put me in? Like a Porsche? 1780 01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:22,439 Speaker 1: I think, dude driving one of those cars versus the 1781 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,439 Speaker 1: ship they sell on the side of the road at 1782 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:29,719 Speaker 1: some dealership. They're not even in the same league of machine. 1783 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,320 Speaker 1: It's it's a completely different experience. I can only imagine. 1784 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you, like, by a rule, don't you have 1785 01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:37,559 Speaker 1: to get blown if you're driving this car? 1786 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:37,840 Speaker 4: Like? 1787 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,040 Speaker 1: I think that's just I think I think. 1788 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,040 Speaker 3: It's I mean, look, the package is very Luca in 1789 01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 3: terms of the accessories, but I think that is the Uh. 1790 01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I need you that, I need surround sound, I 1791 01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,839 Speaker 1: need Yokohama tires, and I need to get blown consistently 1792 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:53,880 Speaker 1: behind the wheel. 1793 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,200 Speaker 3: I mean for three billion, Luke, you might it might 1794 01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,360 Speaker 3: be justified. All right, Hey, Luke, some people don't have 1795 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,920 Speaker 3: that money. In fact, some can't afford a can opener, Luke, 1796 01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:06,680 Speaker 3: But no can opener, no problem for this legend of 1797 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:07,160 Speaker 3: the game. 1798 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, this man isn't a hero. And if they haven't 1799 01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,800 Speaker 1: given him the Congressional Medal of Honor, I don't know why. 1800 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:18,840 Speaker 4: I don't understand it. 1801 01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:26,639 Speaker 1: But wow, right, that dude has definitely seen some crazy 1802 01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:27,479 Speaker 1: shit in his life. 1803 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, I don't know. I don't know the details. 1804 01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:32,760 Speaker 4: I want to know. I want to have him on the. 1805 01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:33,639 Speaker 1: Show, Luke, to be fair. 1806 01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,920 Speaker 4: All right, there it is there, it is right there, 1807 01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,320 Speaker 4: all right, Luke. Can I ask you a personal question? 1808 01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,040 Speaker 1: Have you ever served before poorly? 1809 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,559 Speaker 4: All right? Well, have you ever serfed a d before? Luke, 1810 01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. 1811 01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,040 Speaker 1: That surfboard is hilarious. And he's got stickers on it too. 1812 01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:00,519 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I ride this every week. 1813 01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, rock O surf Shop bought it right there. Yeah, 1814 01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,320 Speaker 4: oh wow, Luke. Okay. In Wholson News. 1815 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,240 Speaker 1: Next to Ron John's surf Shop. 1816 01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Luke, I got some Holsoon news, Cindy Cravin was 1817 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,280 Speaker 3: finally made a legitimate woman by her longtime boyfriend Charles 1818 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,200 Speaker 3: and here's their engagement announcement. 1819 01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:19,639 Speaker 4: Luke. 1820 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:31,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes she was, Luke, Yeah, yes, yeah, yes, bang yes, 1821 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 3: look look at her. 1822 01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:32,960 Speaker 1: Look at her too. 1823 01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:38,080 Speaker 4: She's like, yep, yeah, it says it right there. Yep, 1824 01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:43,720 Speaker 4: you're damn right. Wow. Okay, Luke. Big week for pro debuts. 1825 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,120 Speaker 3: In this in the Squared Circle of boxing there, Luke 1826 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,000 Speaker 3: h Nikita Zoo, the son of coach your brother of Tim, 1827 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,240 Speaker 3: Like we talked about, when's his pro debut? 1828 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,040 Speaker 4: Second round knockout? 1829 01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,519 Speaker 3: Luke, He had taken five years off to go to college, 1830 01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,800 Speaker 3: but he is a four time amateur in the past. 1831 01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 3: He's twenty seven years old. And look, you don't typically 1832 01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 3: face you know, a world beater in your pro debut, 1833 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,720 Speaker 3: but there's his brother cheering him on. He looks like 1834 01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,880 Speaker 3: he's he's, uh, he belongs Luke. 1835 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,080 Speaker 4: I think he belongs here, all right? 1836 01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean your pro debut. You you're fighting, you know, 1837 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 1: the as you like to put it, the guy who 1838 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,280 Speaker 1: drove the uber there. You're not really fighting the very best, 1839 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:19,840 Speaker 1: but you're not supposed to. It's your pro debut. 1840 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that can that that agent fella opened 1841 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:22,840 Speaker 4: with his teeth. 1842 01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,679 Speaker 3: That's who you're fighting. But hey, Nikita Zoo is probably 1843 01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:28,959 Speaker 3: right now. We got to follow him, Luke, every step. 1844 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,720 Speaker 1: Of the way. Okay, all right, let's do it, all right, Luke. 1845 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:35,599 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty Olympic silver medallist Richard Torres Junior, the heavyweight 1846 01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,800 Speaker 3: made his pro debut on Friday, just twenty two years old, 1847 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,439 Speaker 3: and he just needed two rounds to dispose of Adam Nelson. 1848 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:43,439 Speaker 4: Luke, this was good shit. 1849 01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 1: I mean this this was a bit of a donk fest. 1850 01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Torres looks like he actually might be interesting 1851 01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,000 Speaker 1: to follow, but the other guy was. I mean, this 1852 01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,080 Speaker 1: was regional mma, but you know, obviously it's not. It 1853 01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:57,160 Speaker 1: had it had all the you know, the Benny Hills 1854 01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:02,599 Speaker 1: sketch of h I mean, look, he's just still getting 1855 01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,160 Speaker 1: turned here and show. 1856 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just need like a half dressed nurse running 1857 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,559 Speaker 4: away from Benny. That's what this needs. And then then 1858 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:11,480 Speaker 4: I me too, Probably. 1859 01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,679 Speaker 1: I like how his I like how that dude's entire 1860 01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,840 Speaker 1: brand is now impossible in the year twenty twenty two. 1861 01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like he's like Harvey Weinstein's you 1862 01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:21,760 Speaker 3: stole everything I work for. 1863 01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,720 Speaker 4: Mother, Like, hey, Bill Costpy, you know what I mean, Like, 1864 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 4: come on, bro, it's like, dude, you know. 1865 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 1: If you didn't grow up with Benny Benny Hill as 1866 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,639 Speaker 1: like on your Comedy Central or TV, it's hard to explain. 1867 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 1: The dude's brand was sexual harassment and chasing women around 1868 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:37,840 Speaker 1: all day long. That's what it was. 1869 01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,600 Speaker 4: We used to get it late at night on w 1870 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,840 Speaker 4: w p I X eleven out of New York was 1871 01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,599 Speaker 4: like the greatest regional cable channel of all time because 1872 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,280 Speaker 4: all they ever played was like Charles Bronson movies and 1873 01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,280 Speaker 4: shit like that all the time. That channel would play. 1874 01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,280 Speaker 3: Benny Hill at like one am on the weekends, and like, 1875 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,479 Speaker 3: as a little kid, you'd run into that, you'd be 1876 01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:59,000 Speaker 3: so fired up. Luke okay, Luke Torres could handle himself 1877 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,720 Speaker 3: in the ring. He looked pretty decent. But did you 1878 01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:04,679 Speaker 3: see him with the Rubik's cube. They claim he's also 1879 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:06,879 Speaker 3: a magician and he builds rockets. 1880 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:07,880 Speaker 4: I'm not making this up. 1881 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,720 Speaker 1: Look there it is. 1882 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:11,120 Speaker 4: Wow. 1883 01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,840 Speaker 1: I gotta say. Someone was telling me he was close 1884 01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,880 Speaker 1: to the end stage when he did this. I don't know, 1885 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 1: because I don't play with the Rubik's cubes, but it 1886 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:21,280 Speaker 1: looks pretty fucking fast to me. 1887 01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:21,479 Speaker 2: Bro. 1888 01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and dude, we've all left around with one I. 1889 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't My brain doesn't work that way, Luke, 1890 01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:28,920 Speaker 3: And I don't think that surprises you one bit. 1891 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,040 Speaker 1: No, I don't think that it does. 1892 01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:31,240 Speaker 3: Oh. 1893 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,400 Speaker 1: Look at the traps on this dude too good, Lord 1894 01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 1: ears Man, he's coming. He's coming. 1895 01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,840 Speaker 4: We'll find out what he's made of. Eastern Europe. Loop. 1896 01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,679 Speaker 4: It's a It's like Reagial Mma. It's just a different place. 1897 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,879 Speaker 4: Check out this fight training sequence, which involves a bear, Luke. 1898 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 1: Bro, look at this bear working on his triceps. Fuck, y'all, 1899 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:50,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna be it's a he's he's trying to look 1900 01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,200 Speaker 1: good in a tank top in the summer. Don't be 1901 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:57,720 Speaker 1: policing what my bears do. These other two. Just I 1902 01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:59,200 Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck they're up to, but the 1903 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:00,960 Speaker 1: bear is the star of this video. I want to 1904 01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:01,600 Speaker 1: be clear about that. 1905 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:06,560 Speaker 4: Speaking of Europe Wild Weekend of Boxing. 1906 01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:10,080 Speaker 1: Results, last thing, last thing, just further proof BC. I 1907 01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:14,000 Speaker 1: don't care if you live in Russia, United States, Canada, wherever. 1908 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,559 Speaker 1: People who live in the forest. Yeah they're different, bro, 1909 01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:19,439 Speaker 1: They're completely different. 1910 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,800 Speaker 4: Well said, very very well said. All right, Luke, did 1911 01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:24,839 Speaker 4: you see this headbutt? 1912 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,160 Speaker 3: I don't know the fighters, I don't even know what country, 1913 01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:29,479 Speaker 3: but this pro this has been going all over Oh 1914 01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:30,640 Speaker 3: there's the fighter namely. 1915 01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:37,080 Speaker 4: Oh shit, Luke, dude, what was that illegal? That's what 1916 01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:42,000 Speaker 4: that was? Saul okay, ship, that was just blatant. 1917 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,160 Speaker 3: Well, Luke got a little wilder here. I don't even 1918 01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:46,960 Speaker 3: know if this is the same show, but this other 1919 01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,800 Speaker 3: video is making the rounds. I'm gonna guess Europe the 1920 01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:51,759 Speaker 3: fan getting involved, Oh. 1921 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,280 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, these must be people who live in the 1922 01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:55,280 Speaker 1: forest as well. 1923 01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,120 Speaker 4: And then look at that. They go, oh bro rumbo, 1924 01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,760 Speaker 4: Luke over the top, Holgan wins, unbelievable. 1925 01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:02,360 Speaker 1: Where the fuck is this? 1926 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,680 Speaker 4: How about that security taking care of that ship? Bro? 1927 01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,840 Speaker 1: You hear he comes in the ring? The two boxes, like, 1928 01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:09,880 Speaker 1: what the fuck? And he's talking shit and then they 1929 01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:11,680 Speaker 1: just whoop chuck his ass out. 1930 01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know everybody wants to get their shot 1931 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:16,679 Speaker 4: in on this Donk. 1932 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely, Luke, all right, a T shirt of the 1933 01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:24,080 Speaker 3: week time, Luke, Finally, finally somebody has the balls to 1934 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:33,280 Speaker 3: tell the truth. I mean, you know, as you always say, 1935 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:34,960 Speaker 3: how can I criticize that? 1936 01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:35,360 Speaker 1: Luke? 1937 01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,080 Speaker 4: If i've you know, you know what I mean? 1938 01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,000 Speaker 1: He let he who is without sin cast the first 1939 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:40,719 Speaker 1: stone my friend. 1940 01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, hey, Luke, I'm not into slap fighting at all, 1941 01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:45,519 Speaker 3: but there were a lot of people cared about this 1942 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,040 Speaker 3: Logan Paul thing. Did you see this Ko though? And 1943 01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:55,200 Speaker 3: Logan Paul the promoter's reaction. Good lord, there's Arnold, there's 1944 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,000 Speaker 3: Todd Harris of the w E C Luke, Yeah. 1945 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not I mean, look at Schwarzenegger sitting down, 1946 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,120 Speaker 1: just like what has happened to my life? I love Schwarzenegger, 1947 01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 1: He's my hero. But and he put this at the Arnold, 1948 01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,560 Speaker 1: and I get that he's trying to experiment. If you 1949 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,400 Speaker 1: don't know what the Arnold is, it's like the biggest 1950 01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:18,160 Speaker 1: bodybuilding slash weightlifting slash powerlifting expo in the world. 1951 01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,120 Speaker 4: It's got Look, it's got an amateur wrestling vibe to 1952 01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:21,799 Speaker 4: it too, though. 1953 01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:25,240 Speaker 1: Right they Well, here's what's funny. Strike Force used to 1954 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,000 Speaker 1: put on events in Columbus, Ohio where this is traditionally 1955 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,320 Speaker 1: held on the same weekend, and there would be like 1956 01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,840 Speaker 1: an MMA Arnold crossover. They have stopped doing it. I 1957 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:33,479 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. 1958 01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 4: Wwe used to do that too, and try to link 1959 01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:37,800 Speaker 4: up with it as well. 1960 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like how the slap fighters look like they're 1961 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:42,479 Speaker 1: wearing venom kits too, by the way, look at that. 1962 01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, there, Look, I don't like every combat sport. 1963 01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,560 Speaker 3: I really don't like the slap shit Luke slapsticks. 1964 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,599 Speaker 1: It started out as like a weird thing they did 1965 01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,439 Speaker 1: on radio stations back in like the late nineties, early 1966 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,880 Speaker 1: two thousands, and it just took on a life like this, 1967 01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,799 Speaker 1: which I don't quite Yeah, I mean, it's just it's. 1968 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,720 Speaker 3: It's it's really stupid. It really is, all right, Luke, 1969 01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,000 Speaker 3: proud dad Alert. Look, if you don't have much much 1970 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,040 Speaker 3: to brag about, Luke, and one day you'll be you're 1971 01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,720 Speaker 3: probably already bragging to every person you meet, because look, 1972 01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:12,760 Speaker 3: two key is that incredible, Luke, I'll give her that. 1973 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,559 Speaker 3: But check out this dad at the airport, just telling 1974 01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:16,160 Speaker 3: it like it is. 1975 01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:17,920 Speaker 4: He is proud of his girl. 1976 01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,479 Speaker 1: Congrats Melinda out of prison yesterday, start Rolton. 1977 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:26,479 Speaker 4: She made it, Luke, she made it. 1978 01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:30,080 Speaker 1: Okay, bro, is this guy the biggest dad who ever dadded? 1979 01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,920 Speaker 1: He's got the wrong size shorts on. Yeah, he's got socks. 1980 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,760 Speaker 1: He's got socks up to his caps, which, by way, 1981 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,400 Speaker 1: it's okay. He's got the key chain hanging off the 1982 01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,880 Speaker 1: side shirt tucked in, which is definitely nineteen ninety three. 1983 01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,040 Speaker 3: There's definitely a key to a basketball gym on on 1984 01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,799 Speaker 3: that roll of keys, and Luke, there's an Emily Winmeyer 1985 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:48,280 Speaker 3: tattoo on. 1986 01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,360 Speaker 4: His left forearm. You know it turns out. 1987 01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,200 Speaker 1: Wow, probably, And look at his sneakers. He definitely got 1988 01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,559 Speaker 1: those at the worst place to ever buy sneakers, much 1989 01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,320 Speaker 1: to the chagrin of his child. Yeah. Yeah, this guy's 1990 01:28:58,400 --> 01:28:59,920 Speaker 1: in that belt buckle is doing a lot of work 1991 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:01,599 Speaker 1: right now, a lot of work. 1992 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,800 Speaker 4: He's happy, Luke. Okay, his daughter's free. We're talking about 1993 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,320 Speaker 4: Eddie Hern being six seven, Luke. He put on the 1994 01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 4: gloves last. 1995 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:13,760 Speaker 3: Week against Matchroom Sports CEO Frank Smith and look at 1996 01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,519 Speaker 3: the towering inferno, Eddie Hern go to the body. 1997 01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:21,160 Speaker 1: Here are they doing? No head punches? What are they doing? 1998 01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,880 Speaker 3: Oh shit, yes, just body. We're all he's a Look 1999 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:25,599 Speaker 3: he's not getting up from that, Frank Smith. 2000 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:26,640 Speaker 4: We're not getting up from that. 2001 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,439 Speaker 1: I mean he you know, my man's got the worst 2002 01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,680 Speaker 1: haircut on earth. And you know, I'm not gonna I'm 2003 01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,559 Speaker 1: not gonna judge, but he's got a few extra LB's 2004 01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,040 Speaker 1: on him, you know. Yeah. 2005 01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, Are you impressed by Eddie Skill at all? I 2006 01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:37,960 Speaker 4: mean it's not stephen A. Smith. I'll tell you that. 2007 01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:40,240 Speaker 1: No, I'm not impressed. 2008 01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:44,080 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, Luke a couple more to end it, Luke, 2009 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:45,960 Speaker 3: this week in Marijuana, let's end with this. 2010 01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:46,400 Speaker 4: Okay. 2011 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:48,519 Speaker 3: First of all, I've got what I think is the 2012 01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,760 Speaker 3: world's worst first four foot blunt. 2013 01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:54,120 Speaker 1: Luke your thoughts, huh? I mean put it in my veins. 2014 01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,720 Speaker 4: Yes, that gets the world star stamp on that screen. Absolutely, 2015 01:29:58,960 --> 01:29:59,760 Speaker 4: like I really care. 2016 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,400 Speaker 1: Wouldn't care if this dude had COVID he could blow 2017 01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:03,920 Speaker 1: all that smoke in my face. 2018 01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:07,439 Speaker 3: That's quite a well, uh, Malka in showtime, have come together, 2019 01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,120 Speaker 3: Luke for your birthday, and they are going to gift 2020 01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,920 Speaker 3: you one hit of this, Luke, the I don't know what. 2021 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:17,160 Speaker 4: You call it. There the full the full frontal treatment here, Luke, 2022 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:19,600 Speaker 4: you could not handle this. 2023 01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm like a cat who has seen a squirrel for 2024 01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:35,200 Speaker 1: the first time. If you don't do this for my birthday, you're. 2025 01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,320 Speaker 4: But sure it could kill you? You damn right? 2026 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,519 Speaker 1: Yes, I certainly hope. Yeah. 2027 01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, he went out doing what he loved. Yuh, that 2028 01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:51,160 Speaker 4: is unbelievable. The wow, wow, Okay, that's all the shit 2029 01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:52,280 Speaker 4: I got this week, Luke. 2030 01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,840 Speaker 1: That's great, pretty good, BC, pretty good. All right. With 2031 01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:56,519 Speaker 1: that in mind, we have time for odds and ends. 2032 01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:56,960 Speaker 1: What do you got? 2033 01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:58,000 Speaker 5: Uh? 2034 01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:02,720 Speaker 3: Anthony Joshua has finally announced the new trainer. It didn't 2035 01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,599 Speaker 3: end up being the sexy pick we thought it might, 2036 01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,320 Speaker 3: as he did kind of a tour the world of 2037 01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:08,639 Speaker 3: the biggest trainers in boxing today. He ends up picking 2038 01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:11,920 Speaker 3: his longtime assistant Angel Fernandez, who, to be honest, Luke, 2039 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:13,880 Speaker 3: I don't know really much about it all beyond the name, 2040 01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:15,280 Speaker 3: so we'll see what kind. 2041 01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:17,280 Speaker 4: Of effect that has. But Luke, it's it. 2042 01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,040 Speaker 3: Were obviously in such a weird time because of the 2043 01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:24,720 Speaker 3: Russian invasion in Ukraine and God, the courage of these 2044 01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:28,400 Speaker 3: elite Ukrainian boxers who are just going, you know, just 2045 01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,200 Speaker 3: going for it, right to the front line and manning 2046 01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:31,600 Speaker 3: up in army, you know, and all that. 2047 01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:33,960 Speaker 4: It's like, it's weird. It's like, I don't even know 2048 01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:35,800 Speaker 4: what you know. 2049 01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:37,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds stupid to say, like what the 2050 01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,280 Speaker 3: heavyweight division, you know, looks like in the next eighteen months, 2051 01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,720 Speaker 3: because you know who six the champion, He's got three 2052 01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:45,720 Speaker 3: or four belts. But you know, he was on that 2053 01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,479 Speaker 3: CNN interview and you know, the announcer had gotten the 2054 01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,080 Speaker 3: question asker had gotten controlled for basically saying, you know, 2055 01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,240 Speaker 3: when do you think you're a rematch with Joshua will 2056 01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:57,120 Speaker 3: take place? And he's like, I don't care, you know, 2057 01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:01,360 Speaker 3: I never like, you know, my country, my God, my family, 2058 01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:04,519 Speaker 3: like you know, like holy of course, you know, so 2059 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,479 Speaker 3: it will be interesting, Luke, just in that regard, because 2060 01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,000 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, Tyson Fury's gonna fight Dillian White, But 2061 01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:13,639 Speaker 3: I don't know what the future brings for Anthony Joshua 2062 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:15,720 Speaker 3: or that rematch or what have you. 2063 01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,800 Speaker 4: It's obviously wait and see. In so many more categories, 2064 01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:20,599 Speaker 4: way more important than heavyweight boxing. 2065 01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:22,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, last thing on this by the way, I tweeted 2066 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:23,840 Speaker 1: it out last night. You can still see it on 2067 01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,040 Speaker 1: my timeline. There was you know, it's hard to know 2068 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,560 Speaker 1: what information is accurate coming from there. I mean, do 2069 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:30,600 Speaker 1: your best, We're all trying our best. But there was 2070 01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,639 Speaker 1: a video of a captured Russian soldier sort of explaining 2071 01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:36,640 Speaker 1: his view that like, here's what we thought we were 2072 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,880 Speaker 1: going in. We had some reason to think that, you know, 2073 01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:42,439 Speaker 1: maybe we didn't exactly understand it, but they basically believed 2074 01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:44,800 Speaker 1: that the Ukrainians were waiting to be This was what 2075 01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:48,400 Speaker 1: he said, that they understood their job as a humanitarian 2076 01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,200 Speaker 1: act and the Ukrainess were waiting to be liberated. They 2077 01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,800 Speaker 1: weren't totally sure, but that was their general orientation. And 2078 01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,200 Speaker 1: he said the first time he was really jolted awake, 2079 01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,519 Speaker 1: and how untrue that was was. He says his two 2080 01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,840 Speaker 1: favorite boxers and he mentions him by name, where Usik 2081 01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:02,839 Speaker 1: and Limachenko, And he said when they joined the resistance, 2082 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:06,720 Speaker 1: he was like, oh, oh right, like this is not 2083 01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:09,200 Speaker 1: at all what we thought it was. But he mentions 2084 01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,160 Speaker 1: them by name in this video. So if you haven't 2085 01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,799 Speaker 1: seen it again, you know who knows what's accurate and whatnot, 2086 01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:15,960 Speaker 1: but it was a it was an interesting piece of 2087 01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,120 Speaker 1: content to say to say this put it mildly off, 2088 01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:19,920 Speaker 1: put it that way anyway. 2089 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, holy holy, holy crap. 2090 01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:22,880 Speaker 1: Luke. 2091 01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:24,720 Speaker 4: It's uh, it's rough, Luke. 2092 01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,240 Speaker 3: And by the way, not related at all, but kind 2093 01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:28,599 Speaker 3: of related. First, I wanted to make sure are you're 2094 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:31,240 Speaker 3: going to do Umar and Normaga metof in your extra 2095 01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:32,080 Speaker 3: credit because that guy. 2096 01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,479 Speaker 1: Deserves a lot of talking about I am I am ye. 2097 01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:38,639 Speaker 3: And number two, the Marina Moreau's moment, you know, being 2098 01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:40,920 Speaker 3: from Ukraine and in a very emotional speech and I'm 2099 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:41,519 Speaker 3: glad they get you know. 2100 01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:42,920 Speaker 4: Joe even gave it the mic and was like, go 2101 01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:44,000 Speaker 4: for it. It was great. 2102 01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,519 Speaker 3: But uh, what'd you feel about some of the Russian fighters, 2103 01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:51,000 Speaker 3: you know, getting booed because it's like, you. 2104 01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:53,639 Speaker 1: Know, not Habib, they didn't boo Hernibe. 2105 01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,040 Speaker 4: I mean yeah, but like these guys aren't on the 2106 01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,559 Speaker 4: front lines trying to trying to make this war happen, so. 2107 01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,639 Speaker 1: I know these are just ordinary people. I don't. I don't. 2108 01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean again, I go back to the famous story 2109 01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:06,800 Speaker 1: during Bodog Fight when Trevor Prangley fought Yuki Condo, I 2110 01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,880 Speaker 1: think in Philly or somewhere like that, and the whole 2111 01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,680 Speaker 1: crowd was chanting USA, USA, and but the problem is 2112 01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,639 Speaker 1: Trevor Prangley is from South Africa. They just couldn't tell. 2113 01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,240 Speaker 1: So that was always a fun little thing. I don't 2114 01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:19,520 Speaker 1: try to get to racism. 2115 01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:21,479 Speaker 4: Racism. Yeah, look I got. 2116 01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:25,519 Speaker 1: It's like you're cheering for the white guy just because 2117 01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:29,800 Speaker 1: he's It's a little bit of problem. But okay, we'll 2118 01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:31,479 Speaker 1: have to see what all that well happens there my 2119 01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:35,560 Speaker 1: quick quick odds and ends. They put this on the broadcast. 2120 01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have otherwise known about it. But Drake, the 2121 01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:42,840 Speaker 1: hip hop artist from Canada bet two hundred and seventy 2122 01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:49,080 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars BC on Masvidol and then lost it all. 2123 01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:52,920 Speaker 1: Now BC, isn't there a Drake curse? Where I guess 2124 01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,240 Speaker 1: like he was like supporting like Duke or unc or whoever, 2125 01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:57,800 Speaker 1: and they would lose, and then he'd show up to 2126 01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,639 Speaker 1: like some other sporting event they would all fucking lose, 2127 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,599 Speaker 1: and the McGregor and he lost to Mayweather boy. 2128 01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,519 Speaker 4: Saying Kentucky basketball, Alabama football. 2129 01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:10,360 Speaker 1: That's right, because he's also like he's also like a 2130 01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:12,719 Speaker 1: bandwagon fan, where like I mean, he's not a bandwagon 2131 01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:14,800 Speaker 1: fan for the Raptors because he's from Toronto, I guess. 2132 01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:18,080 Speaker 1: But uh, for like the American teams, he just blombs 2133 01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,280 Speaker 1: on too, like the big winning programs or whatever. 2134 01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:26,560 Speaker 3: Anyway, celebrity celebrities are leeches to hot winning teams and 2135 01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:28,800 Speaker 3: rubbing their star against it. 2136 01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:30,720 Speaker 4: Luke, we know that shit, all right. 2137 01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:35,120 Speaker 1: See what sports team if one sport if you if 2138 01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,000 Speaker 1: we if this show just blew up and we were like, 2139 01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, ten times bigger than Joe Rogan podcasts, bigger 2140 01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,400 Speaker 1: than you could ever imagine, And there could be one 2141 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:44,479 Speaker 1: sports team who could offer you season tickets for life. 2142 01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:45,840 Speaker 1: Who would it be that you take it from? 2143 01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:53,639 Speaker 4: Great question, Luke, College AM pro or just pro college 2144 01:35:53,680 --> 01:36:00,760 Speaker 4: and pro? I get bought the Boss and Celtics would 2145 01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,639 Speaker 4: be my pick. But I was considering Penn State football, Luke, 2146 01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:05,639 Speaker 4: but I don't really want to spend that many days 2147 01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:06,599 Speaker 4: in Happy Valley though. 2148 01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:10,439 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I won't go there. I will not 2149 01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:10,960 Speaker 1: go there. 2150 01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,560 Speaker 4: No, not because of that. No, I will not go 2151 01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:15,200 Speaker 4: there because. 2152 01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:19,720 Speaker 1: He's like hashtags and dusky. Yeah, I would have liked 2153 01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,679 Speaker 1: to have picked the Commanders, but they're just so awful. 2154 01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,080 Speaker 1: I can't. I would probably go with the Wizards, even 2155 01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:27,240 Speaker 1: though it's not really an inspiring choice. All right, BC, 2156 01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:27,960 Speaker 1: that is it for us? 2157 01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:28,120 Speaker 4: Now? 2158 01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:30,400 Speaker 1: Are there reminding us? We have a Top of the 2159 01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:34,679 Speaker 1: Morning collection? I believe this is the merch collection BC. 2160 01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:37,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a part of our Saint Patrick's Day 2161 01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:42,000 Speaker 3: package at Morningcombat Dot store that RJ duncle cracker that 2162 01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:45,479 Speaker 3: has so you know, expertly curated Luke and put together. 2163 01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,800 Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't clear this shit with us, but 2164 01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:48,400 Speaker 3: it works. 2165 01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:48,639 Speaker 4: Luke. 2166 01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:50,800 Speaker 3: I saw that onesie. You could outfit your child in 2167 01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:54,000 Speaker 3: an MK Saint Patrick's Day onesie today, Luke. And the 2168 01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,080 Speaker 3: bibs as well, And you know I can't throw stone 2169 01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,280 Speaker 3: at kids for wearing a bib anyway, Luke, I spilled 2170 01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:01,800 Speaker 3: food on my shirt right out of my mouth every meal, 2171 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:02,800 Speaker 3: probably every meal. 2172 01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,400 Speaker 1: Look, BC, we find out that stuff is on the 2173 01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,840 Speaker 1: store by going to the store. We don't ever see 2174 01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:09,920 Speaker 1: mock ups, we don't ever see ideas. 2175 01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,479 Speaker 3: We just see Really, That's why I'm saying RJ's throwing 2176 01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:13,280 Speaker 3: like a perfect gamer. 2177 01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:17,040 Speaker 4: Now. He's like Doc Ellis on acid, just slinging curveballs 2178 01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:18,000 Speaker 4: right now. And it's working. 2179 01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:19,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's like, also, we need to take some 2180 01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,840 Speaker 1: new picks with us posing in merch because I look 2181 01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:26,559 Speaker 1: fat as fuck in all these photos and ill you wait, 2182 01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:27,799 Speaker 1: since we took it, I was skinny. 2183 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,519 Speaker 3: Then I've put on another you know a little bit here, Luke. 2184 01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,439 Speaker 3: But yeah, after you know, getting COVID and hurting my 2185 01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:36,519 Speaker 3: back and just being an old old bitch hibernating in 2186 01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,160 Speaker 3: the winter, Luke, which is really my m it's my 2187 01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:40,519 Speaker 3: survival move, Luke. 2188 01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:43,439 Speaker 1: You know it's but they should sell BC yoga pants 2189 01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:45,599 Speaker 1: because your bitch ass does yoga on the regular. 2190 01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:48,200 Speaker 4: We do. We have the white sweatpants with the with 2191 01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,720 Speaker 4: the MK logo on. Those are comfortable as heck. 2192 01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,880 Speaker 1: All right, a reminder Morning Coombat dot Store you can 2193 01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:55,760 Speaker 1: go there. Showtime dot Com is the label that pays 2194 01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,280 Speaker 1: thirty day free trial. If you like it, you can 2195 01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,439 Speaker 1: keep it. If not, you can do something else. Morning 2196 01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,920 Speaker 1: Combat at email, Wednesday's fan subs Friday is dead wrong. 2197 01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:03,679 Speaker 1: Anything else. You need to reach the show about. That's 2198 01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:04,320 Speaker 1: how you do it. 2199 01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:07,559 Speaker 4: And people be on the people, be on the lookout, Luke. 2200 01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,880 Speaker 3: The Showtime Boxing announcement, I think even in the next 2201 01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,600 Speaker 3: twenty four hours is looked like it's going to be 2202 01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,280 Speaker 3: a big rollout with a lot to talk about. You know, 2203 01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:18,280 Speaker 3: I'm sure on Wednesday show, Luke, I got my traveling 2204 01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,200 Speaker 3: schedules getting in the way. I can't be on Wednesday's 2205 01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:22,120 Speaker 3: morning Combat show. 2206 01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:25,320 Speaker 1: So you're going to be on Showbox on Friday. Correct. Yeah. 2207 01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:28,559 Speaker 3: That was literally the only flight that gets you eventually 2208 01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:34,559 Speaker 3: from Hartford to Rapid City. So yeah, so have fun there, Yeah, 2209 01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,240 Speaker 3: Deadwood baby, all right, I'm coming. 2210 01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm coming for you. 2211 01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:38,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2212 01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:39,960 Speaker 1: All right, So there you have it. Thumbs up on 2213 01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,559 Speaker 1: the video, hit subscribe, leave a nice review on the podcast. 2214 01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:44,600 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Wednesday. Be on the lookout for 2215 01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,080 Speaker 1: more interviews and extra credit coming your way as well, 2216 01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:52,120 Speaker 1: for CBS for Showtime, for Malka, for BC. I'm lt. 2217 01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:54,200 Speaker 1: We'll see you guys next time, and until then, may 2218 01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:55,639 Speaker 1: all of your gains be loyal.