1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. In 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: scripted as well, we have so. 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: Much to talk about greeting and salutation, honey, that's what 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: we're doing. So on Tonight's Live, I've listened and I'll responded, 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: and you guys wanted me to bring back my amazing 12 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: friend and amazing co host f M. K. Williams to 13 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: talk about the Candy and Todd divorce proceedings. So on 14 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: this one, what we're gonna do is utilize Ebony's amazing 15 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: intelligence when it comes to the law and being a 16 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: celebrity and how those two things sort of intersect when 17 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: it comes to what happens with the celebrity divorce, the 18 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: money desk at stake, children being involved, minor children at 19 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: that in addition to recent information about particular allegations of 20 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: possible cheating. So, Ebony, are you ready to break this 21 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: all down? 22 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: I am if I have shot approval from the rain Drops, shit, 23 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: I mean, well damn. 24 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: Well. Look, you know the range are very opinionated. So 25 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: just to catch you all up to speed, what's going on? 26 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: And look, this has been a situation that a lot 27 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: of did not see coming. So I want to make 28 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: sure to recapture you guys exactly what is happening. So 29 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: rain Drops, as you all know, Candy Burristucker has decided 30 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 2: to file for divorce on November twenty first. She has 31 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: called it quiz after eleven years of marriage. She said 32 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: in a statement that after deep thought a lot of prayer, 33 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: she's made the decision to move forward with advores. Okay, 34 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: she cited that the marriage was irretrivially broken and that 35 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: she was seeking for joint cust study. So before we 36 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: get into Ta's response, which truly did break the Internet ebony, 37 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 2: some of divorces, especially celebrities, we always hear the reconcilable differences, 38 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: which is pretty much like the safest thing to say 39 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: about like two parties. We decided to different matters to 40 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: say that it was irvally broken explain to us exactly 41 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: what that particular statement means and why or why not 42 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: is that important when it comes to this divorce. 43 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 3: Well, the only real legal significance of that language, Carlos, 44 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: and it's a good, it's a good point of clarification 45 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: is that because, like you said, irreconcilable differences is a 46 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: catch all, you know, it's it's a standard catch all 47 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: that almost everybody uses in their uh no fault state divorces, 48 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: which Georgia is. But that beyond you know, what do 49 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: you call it? Reconciliation piece just kind of goes to 50 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: tap the judge or the try or effect on the 51 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: shoulder and let them know basically, we're not particularly interested 52 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: in counts or mediation tactics that would put us on 53 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: a path for reconciliation. It's basically because sometimes when you 54 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: initially find you do an initial first filing of divorce, 55 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: you might have a judge push you in that direction, 56 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: especially when there are minor children involved, as is the 57 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: case with Candy and Todd. They've got a six year 58 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 3: old daughter Blaze, nine year old son Ace and so 59 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: and especially I'm going to bring up some components rain drops, 60 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,119 Speaker 3: So follow me here when you're in the Bible Belt, 61 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: they are in the state of Georgia. And I say 62 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: this as a proud Southern girl myself, who practice family 63 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: law in the state of North Carolina, you're gonna sometimes 64 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: run into a judge, and the judges, y'all, have a 65 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 3: tremendous amount of discretion in family law cases. So that's 66 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: one thing to note. This is not a prosecutor and 67 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: a defense This is a judge and only a judge 68 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 3: that we'll hear from both Candy's lawyers and Todd's lawyers 69 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: and decide all the elements of this case, from custody 70 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 3: to the enforcement of the prenup, which we will get to, 71 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 3: to all the elements. And so when you're in this 72 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 3: type of jurisdiction, the South, the Bible Belt, where the 73 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: culture of the region, y'all, and that mandates a presumption 74 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: of family, a presumption especially in the political climate that 75 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: we're in. I don't have to name it, y'all can 76 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: put it together, okay, where there's such a energy and 77 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: propensity around traditional family values and family staying together and 78 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 3: nuclear family situations. So the inclusion by Candy's attorney and 79 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: their legal team of that sentence essentially beyond reasonable chances 80 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: of reconciliation is to say, hey, you're honor In case 81 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: you're thinking about trying to put us on track for 82 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: some type of preliminary reconciliation counseling, we can skip it. 83 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: That's what that says to me. 84 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So one of the things that occur after that, 85 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: because again the worse filings for me, and again I'm 86 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: not a lawyer, I'm just a general public citizen. One 87 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: thing that I thought was okay, it was a kind 88 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: way of saying, this relationship cannot be you know, retrieved 89 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: outside of getting back together. We do have minor children together. 90 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: We are going to try to have a joint custody. 91 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: She did say that. She also said that look, they 92 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: have businesses together, and that any depth that they have 93 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: to be split and anything else should be split. Everything 94 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: seemed to be fair and everybody said, okay, that's fine. 95 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: Then a few days later after that, on December second, 96 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: I'm sorry an December second, what happened On December first, 97 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: Tom Tucker's attorney, Randy Kessler, responded to Candy's filing, and 98 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: this is where things were said, ebony that run the 99 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: general public, the wrong way, not all of a sudden, 100 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: but I wanted to get your thoughts on it. In 101 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: the In the document, it did state that Todd would 102 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: like to have in the unlike in the hopefully unlikely 103 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: event that they are unable to reach a custody deal, 104 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: he will be seeking primary physical custody, joint legal custody, 105 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: and final decision making authority. The document stated that Candy 106 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: having substantial time and meaningful access to the children. He's 107 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: praising her as a mother, But he also did say 108 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: that because she travels a lot, he wants to be 109 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: able to be the primary parent if they're unable to 110 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: reach a deal. You being a love yourself, you being 111 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: a working mom, yourself, you're actually on set today, yep. 112 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: Out of state, by the way, out of state, on 113 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: set out on the other side of the country. So 114 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: I'm actually very similarly positioned to where Miss Candy Burgers 115 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: is in terms of this type of situation. So let's 116 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: start in the back, carlost let me do some issue 117 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: spotting here, old school style. Everything you read, and I'm 118 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: so glad you read it in its totality around uh 119 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: Todd's request on the custody piece. The initial request this 120 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: is around a potential child support claim. Okay, so let's 121 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: let's reverse engineering. This is setting up a potential claim 122 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: from Todd and his legal team to seek child support. 123 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: I want everybody to immediately put spousal support on a 124 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: selparate chef, a separate shelf. Spousal support and child support 125 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Okay. Spousal 126 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: support may or may not even be at play, depending 127 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: on whether or not the judge decides to uphold the 128 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: existing prenuptial agreement. But child support is something that you 129 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: actually cannot bypass in a pre nup, Okay, because it's 130 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: not about you or you spouse or spouse. It's about 131 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: who the child. So excuse me. With that framework, With 132 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 3: this being all about a potential child support claim, that 133 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: would be why Todd, through his attorney Randy Kessler, would 134 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: be seeking primary physical custody, because if you don't have 135 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: primary physical custody, there is little to no claim around 136 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: why you should be compensated from the other parent, because 137 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 3: the judge will typically look at that as if it's 138 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: split physical custody. They will look at y'all as equals 139 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: who are more or less equally positioned to care for 140 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: the children through your own resources with the time you 141 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: each equally have the children. But if you're saying no, no, no, no, 142 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: I am the the children are with me most of 143 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: the time, subject to visitation from the other spouse, then 144 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 3: the financial presumption shifts. Carlos, see how that goes. And 145 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 3: now the expectation is I need to be paid from 146 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:16,479 Speaker 3: the other's spouse compensated for taking on more fiscal responsibility 147 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 3: because the children are with me more so I'm feeding them, 148 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 3: I'm clothing them, I'm housing them, I'm paying for their extracurriculars, 149 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: and I need to be paid child support to make 150 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: that equitable. That's so, that's that's connecting the dots as 151 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: to why he's starting from a physical custody demand and 152 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: then the legal joint custody that standard because uh, there 153 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: is no fiscal component to legal custody, because legal custody 154 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: is not about where the physicality of the children. It's 155 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: only about the decision making. So this is where they 156 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 3: go to school, if they have health insurance, what kind 157 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: testing the things of this in terms of like whatever 158 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: whatever assessments the children might need as they continue you 159 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 3: to grow and develop but then I think it's interesting. 160 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: Something I don't see often, Carlos, is this final request 161 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: potentially of final decision making. Because the whole point of 162 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: joint legal custody is to say that we are joint 163 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: in assessing what I just ran down, schooling, healthcare, the 164 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 3: major decisions that affect the child's life. But he's saying 165 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 3: that I actually want final decision making potentially, and that's 166 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 3: a bit unusual. So but the first thing you said 167 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 3: is important. We only get to me having physical primary custody, 168 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 3: joint decision making, legal custody and final decision if and 169 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 3: only if we can't get to a custody agreement. So 170 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: that's gonna be the first step, Carlos. They're gonna sit 171 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 3: down with maybe a mediator, an arbitrator, or even the 172 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: judge and try to see if they can come up 173 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: with what we tend to call a consent decree, which 174 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 3: means we both consent mutually agree that this is going 175 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 3: to be the custody arrangement. So that's going to be 176 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: the first attempt. 177 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: Todd, on his social media has had this sort of 178 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 2: like social media series, nothing I would call a websode, 179 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 2: but he has been promoting that he does a lot 180 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: of daddy daycare, and he's been doing this for you know, 181 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: in recent months. Do you think that was a part 182 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: of strategy to show that he is the prime he 183 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: is being theen based on what he's showing me as 184 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: the primary care came, I don't have to. 185 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: I don't have to think it. Well, I was gonna say, 186 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: I don't have to think it, Carlos. I know it. 187 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: I know it, and it's not necessarily that's not a deed, 188 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: that's not nefarious, that's just quite obvious. Quite frankly, when 189 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: you see people start to show up in a public setting, 190 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 3: which social media is as public as it kind of 191 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: gets right because it's real time visibility, establishing a narrative 192 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 3: which may very well be true, may not be true, 193 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: maybe a little true or and untrue, who knows, right, 194 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: but they're establishing a narrative that sements them in a 195 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: particular position. So he's saying publicly, hey, public and potential 196 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: judge and whoever's assessing this, I need you to know 197 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: that it is me that is primarily at home doing 198 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: the daily caretaking of the children. I'm running the bathwater, 199 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: I'm preparing the meals. I'm preparing any medicines they may take. 200 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 3: I'm the one doing story time because why my wife, 201 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: per his claim, is out of town, out of the country, 202 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: promoting Broadway shows, doing press for her incredible you know, 203 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: works and projects and movies and films and all the 204 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: amazing things she's doing. So while she is away, kind 205 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: of well, what's it getting the bacon. I'm playing daddy 206 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 3: daycare at home, frying up the bacon, and I am 207 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: holding down the home front. That is clearly Carlos what 208 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: he has been trying to establish for the past several months, 209 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: which bolsters his argument his legal claim that that's why 210 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: I should be designated the primary physical custodian, because, like 211 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: you were saying, and you know, using me as an 212 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: example of what it looks like to be the working 213 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: mom who's going to get the bacon. I'm out in 214 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 3: La getting the bacon. I'm on set getting the bacon. 215 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: Somebody's got to get the bacon. But also somebody has 216 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: to be home to fry the bacon because the children 217 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: can't eat un fried bacon, you know, using this analogy, 218 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: so I would tell you, cybar, this this is sidebar. 219 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: This is part of the reason that I used a 220 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: donor true tide of my personal story time part Yeah. 221 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: Part of the reason that I decided to be a 222 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: single mom by choice, Carlos King and use a donor 223 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: and not have a father for liberty, not use a friend, 224 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: not have a cold parenting situation, is because I knew 225 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: my circumstances professionally would put me in Candy's exact situation, 226 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: and that I would very possibly end up paying child 227 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: support for my own daughter. Oh apps, some motherfucking lute 228 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: excuse me, I would easily be in a position to 229 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: have to go in front of a judge looking just 230 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: like this and plead my own case from my own 231 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: daughter that I carried in birth, to say, despite my 232 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: travel schedule, my work schedule, my sometimes lack of real 233 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: time availability, I assure you I can make sure all 234 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: of her needs are met. Because that opens the door, 235 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: Carlows for exactly this where a father, despite the relationship 236 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: between me and the father, despite what we even previously 237 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: agreed to, could then say, your honor, look at her. 238 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: She's outside. She might be outside for very wonderful, noble reasons, 239 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: but she's away from home and children need, you know, mom, 240 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: to be home. Mom's not available to be home, and 241 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: so she has she has put her custody rights at 242 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 3: risk from a legal standpoint, and I'm here to step 243 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: into the to the to the to the pocket. I'm 244 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: here to step into the role and play the primary 245 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: custodian for my children. And that's a real risk, Carlos, 246 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: and it is one of the reasons I'm telling you 247 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: that women with high power careers that demand travel or 248 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: time away. My daughter is being very well taken care 249 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: of right now, rain Drops in Carlos. I assure you, 250 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: I'm getting hourly updates from her nanny, who has been 251 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: with her since she was four months old. She's in 252 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: a lovely, you know, preschool that she's been so she's good. 253 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: But if I had to argue this to a judge, 254 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: it could go either way, and I wasn't willing to 255 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 3: risk it going either way. So that's a personal decision. 256 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: Every woman gets to make that decision for herself. But 257 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: I hope that helps understand rain Drops why somebody would 258 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: do what I did, And more and more women are 259 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: electing to do it because we don't want to be 260 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: in court having to potentially fight for custody of our 261 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: own children simply because we chose or needed to go 262 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: to work. 263 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, well, listen, you are preaching to the choir 264 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: of the women who are working mothers. Who's working women 265 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: in the group chat? With that being said, I want 266 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: to ask you this because this was brought up recently 267 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: and I never thought about it until one of my 268 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: brain drops brought it to my attention. Does that hurt 269 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: a woman in this case? So, let's sen if Candy 270 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: had Blaze via surrogacy, right, yes? Does that will that hurt? 271 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: Let me remind could Todd and his attorney used that 272 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: as a way to establish her busy schedule and the 273 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: reason why it is in the best interest for the 274 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: primary custody to be in the hands of the father 275 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: because of something like that. Is that something that could 276 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: be used? Has it ever? Did? 277 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so. I appreciate 278 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 3: the curiosity. I see where it could come from from 279 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 3: a curiosity standpoint, but I don't believe so. I didn't 280 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: follow that storyline, Cluk, I was watching this shor at 281 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 3: the time. But from what I know period of sarrogacy, Carlos, 282 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: it is almost always used for medical necessity, Candy, like myself, 283 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 3: is now very much so considered advanced maternal age. Candy 284 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 3: at that point had already birth Riley. Also at that 285 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 3: point Ace and Ace she was older as well, so 286 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 3: I could see we're medically speaking, she would have a 287 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 3: very sound argument to say that Blaze was brought to 288 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: the world lovingly and beautifully sarrogacy because not of professional obligations, 289 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: you know. And she couldn't carry the baby because it 290 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: was inconvenient, but due to medical reasons, so that would 291 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: not I don't see any argument, Carlos where that would 292 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 3: legally work against her. 293 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: This is reality. He with the King, and I'm Carlos King. 294 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. Okay, So rain Drop, 295 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: I'll hope that answered your question. I want to make 296 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: sure to ask that, so thank you rain Dad for 297 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: asking that question. I want to move into the financing. 298 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: Can I just add something real quick because it doesn't 299 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: necessarily the Candy, but it could apply to other women 300 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 3: in these situations. Let's say Candy had used an egg donor, right, 301 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 3: So let's say Candy was so was the legal mother 302 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 3: of one of her children, but not the biological mother. 303 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 3: I want to be clear, rain Drops, that does not 304 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 3: jeopardize her custody. The law does not afford a biological 305 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: parent more legal rights than a legal parent. I think 306 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: that's very important to clarify. 307 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 2: Okay, and I'm clarified that. And and Ebony, I'm not 308 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: sure if you heard of this story that happened to 309 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: Sherry Shepherd. 310 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 3: Oh, yes, Sherry has told me that story herself at 311 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: her own mouth. 312 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: Yes, are you at liberty if you wanted to, because 313 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: because what you said made me think about that. Because 314 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: rain Drops, listen, Sherry Shepherd used a dinner egg, which 315 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 2: was her ex husband Lamar Sally's firm, to have herself 316 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: through a surrogate mother. The egg donor was selected by 317 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: the agency after you know, they signed an agreement with 318 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: the agency to be the legal parents. However, rain Drops, it. 319 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: Led to a legal battle during the divorce, with a 320 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 4: court ultimately ruling that Sherry was the legal mother of 321 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 4: the child and have to pay. 322 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: Child support. Sure did, Sure did? Sure did? So that's important. 323 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 3: So anybody hearing this this thinking you're mitigating your financial 324 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: responsibility by putting some biological distance between you and the child, 325 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 3: you are not. The court said, motion denied, go ahead, Carlos. 326 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 2: All right, so I want to get into the financial 327 00:20:59,640 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: so good. 328 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 3: This is so many issues, so many issues. 329 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: As my team all week, I said, I am attending 330 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: the University of Kay Williams because you. 331 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 5: Know, I'm obsessed with you and your brilliant and just 332 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 5: everything that I'm learning from you courtesy of this and listen, 333 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 5: I have so much of my play. 334 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: But I do want to go to law school now. 335 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 2: And also just so you know, a lot of frame drops, 336 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: courtesy of just watching you for years and also watching 337 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 2: this you are. You are influencing and inspiring a lot 338 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: of people at the law school. So I want you 339 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: to know that, and I so love that you. 340 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 3: Just so y'all know, rain drops. Of the entire legal profession, 341 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 3: only five percent count on one hand, one two, four 342 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 3: or five percent are Black attorneys. There are less than 343 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: for men and women black men and women. There are 344 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: less than sixty seven thousand Black attorneys in the United 345 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 3: States of America. We are underrepresented in this profession and 346 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 3: it affects us in every way from child support to 347 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: a criminal court to real estate property court. When you 348 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 3: get people's deeds stolen from underneath them, we need us 349 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 3: so Carlos all jokes aside, brother, I will literally write 350 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 3: your personal recommendation letters to law school. And I am 351 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 3: hand to God, very dead serious, very soon. 352 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: Thank you for that. And you know me, I take listen, 353 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 2: she knows it could be worked together. Everything I do 354 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: I take seriously, and I'm always preparing myself. So when 355 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: the time is right, I will let you know. Okay, 356 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: so rain drops. As we all know, Candy and Todd 357 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: got married April fourth, twenty fourteen. Todd, in the court document, 358 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: has stated that although he admits that he did sign 359 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: a prenuptial agreement, he is suggesting, though, that he was 360 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: pressured into signing it without his lawyers around. 361 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 6: Todd's lawyer said that he was presented without having council present. 362 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 2: Even though Candy then counsel that communicated previously with Todd's 363 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: counsel regarding a potential prenuptial agreement. What do don't want 364 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: to Rang Josh to know, because I know they're dealing 365 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: with business. What that means Range John's and I want 366 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: ethnic to school us on this when they say that 367 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: Candy's lawyers independently spoke to Todd without his lawyer's president. 368 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: The reason why that could be deemed I'm not going 369 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: to well, I'll just say the word is correct me 370 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. The reason why that may be deemed 371 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: unethical is because the moment, the moment two parties, So 372 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: in this case, Candy and Todd, Candy a Todd having 373 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: separate lawyers, the moment the lawyers are engaged talking to 374 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: each other. As a lawyer, you're not allowed. 375 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 6: To speak to the other council's client without them being president. 376 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: Is that correct? 377 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: That correct? Yes? Yeah, Okay, I mean that's that's that's 378 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 3: like a one on one type of way you get 379 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 3: sationed by the Bar association, is speaking to another attorney's 380 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 3: client without representation present. And just the reason for that, 381 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: rain Drops, is because there's a certain power dynamic at 382 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: play and certain presumptions of understandings that we have with 383 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: each other amongst each other as attorneys. Okay that lay 384 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 3: people could be brilliant, could be fortune five hundred CEOs, 385 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 3: could be multi muntime billion millionaire, celebrity whatever. It's not 386 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: undermining to say they are incompetent. It's just to say, 387 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 3: and they can actually catch this tea colors, they can 388 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: actually be attorneys. It can actually be it can actually 389 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 3: be an attorney. But if they are not the attorney 390 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 3: representing the legal interests of that person, in that case, 391 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: they are not permitted to speak to the council period. 392 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: Yes, And what we saw on the Wedding special was 393 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: Candy did call her lawyer. Tom was president. Todd tried 394 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: to call his lawyer. He didn't answer, but we did 395 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: see on camera that Candy's lawyer on speaker was talking 396 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 2: with Todd. And what would happened on the wedding. 397 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: Can we ask the flag that when Todd tried to 398 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 3: then later in that same scene call his lawyer, Randy 399 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 3: and tried to do the same thing, like, hey, Randy, 400 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 3: Candy's right here with me. Can you talk to us 401 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: and basically calm her down and let her know it's 402 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 3: gonna be all right. Randy Kessler said, what I think 403 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: not I will not be speaking to miss Burris without 404 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 3: her council present. But what I can do for you, 405 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: Todd is get on the phone and call Candy's attorney 406 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 3: and we could talk lawyer to lawyers. So that's the 407 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: easy way to think about it, rain drops. Lawyers should 408 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 3: be talking lawyers to lawyers, and the party should be 409 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: talking to each other, but we will not have a dynamic. 410 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: A triangulation is the word where me and my lawyer 411 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 3: are sitting on the phone with my future husband without 412 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 3: his lawyer present. Because that in and of itself can 413 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: be construed as a form of duress, a form of 414 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: compounding pressure and obligation that does not afford equal representation. 415 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: So, with all of that being said, Todd attorney in 416 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: this document, okay, is the reason why he is questioning 417 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: the prenuptial agreement because of the fact that he did 418 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: find the document without an attorney. His attorney president. One 419 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 2: thing that the attorney is saying, ebony is the fact 420 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: that I'm gonna read a verbatim so one of his 421 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: quote things right now, give me one second, okay. Tucker's 422 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: counterclaim for divorce also demanded a division of all marital 423 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: assets both real and personal, tangible and intangible between the parties. 424 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 425 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, production was in my ear. Read that 426 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 3: last line again, thank you, okay, just the last the 427 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 3: last two lines. 428 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: Okay. A division of all marital assets both real and personal, 429 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 2: tangible and intangible between the parties. 430 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: Well, that's just going to probably mean to cover all bases, right, 431 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 3: because we know George is a community property state, and 432 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 3: he's just saying, hey, listen, we want all we know 433 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 3: what real property and assets are. That's the houses and 434 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: the cars and things like that, clothing, jewelry, things like 435 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 3: that that were purchased during the marital time which eleven years. 436 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 3: But the intangible stuff that could be things like stop 437 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 3: that appreciate it maybe right, or if either of them 438 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: or both of them have any pension funds. So basically, 439 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 3: you know accounts that things that are not liquid, assets 440 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: that are not liquid, so whatever you know that could 441 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: be any any account, money market accounts, things of that nature. 442 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: One thing that I want to get into is the 443 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 2: fact that people assume Evny like, hey, they signed a prenup, 444 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 2: they got on the boards, everything should be good. It's 445 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 2: a legal document. Tell me why that's not always the case. 446 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: They weren't married for ten plus years. Somebody did say 447 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: in the chat that is it true that in ten 448 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: years in the state of Georgia that you may be 449 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: able to renegotiate your prenup just based on all of 450 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: the activities that may have occurred in the ten years. 451 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: And one thing that I do want to say, Mayor 452 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: J Blige ex husband can Do did sign a prenup. However, 453 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: she still had to pay. 454 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: Home as Justin Ross affection affectionately called him ken don't 455 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 3: shout out to the lovely Dustin Ross. So a few things. 456 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: This ten year mark, let's clear some things up. Ten 457 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: years in some states is hugely significant, like the state 458 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 3: I'm in right now, California. In California, we saw this 459 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: with Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman in California. Legally speaking, 460 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 3: it's for real, for real, for real once you get 461 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: to ten years, meaning it now becomes very difficult to 462 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: not cash the other party out once you hit the 463 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: ten year mark. Now, let's go to Georgia where this 464 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: is happening. They don't have that severe of a statute 465 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: where everything kind of changes it ten years, but certainly 466 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 3: a few things do happen at ten years. Now, no 467 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: sitting judge is going to presume that this was just 468 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 3: for play play. If somebody sayed ten years, even if 469 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: they were a gold digger, they were committed, so we're 470 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 3: gonna treat them more seriously. That's a real thing. Also 471 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: point in the marriage, but certainly it's more likely after 472 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 3: the ten year mark things could be renegotiated. We even 473 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 3: heard Ashley Darby discuss this on Real Housewives of Potomac 474 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 3: when she was still married to Michael Darby that once 475 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 3: they got to ten years, it essentially is thrown out, 476 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 3: you know, this notion of we need to be real 477 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: careful of how we divvy things up once you get 478 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 3: to ten years. Again, the presumption is that everybody was 479 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: operating in good faith and that this is more treated 480 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: as a community of sorts and that's how it's gonna 481 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 3: be handled. So that's the significance of the ten year piece, 482 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 3: just so everybody's clear on that. It doesn't seismically change 483 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 3: what's going on here, but it says that nobody the 484 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 3: judge is not gonna look at Todd or whoever the 485 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 3: other person is and say you just married them just 486 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 3: for money, because most people that just married for money 487 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: are in and out in a year two or three, 488 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: not eleven. 489 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: And just so we know for the record, Candy is 490 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: the one that actually filed for the divorce. Todd did it. 491 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: So I just wanted to make sure that fact was 492 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: also presented because people are saying that all of this 493 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: happened because you know Todd wanted to, you know, get 494 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: the money. It's pretty much well. 495 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 3: Cash out, yeah, cash out. Well, we had to add 496 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 3: this to Carlos because I think you're right. First of all, 497 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 3: you're exactly right. I think people look at he signed 498 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: the document. It's legally binding, case closed. While that's not 499 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 3: the now, it is important that he signed the document. 500 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: I do want to be clear, it's not a nothing sandwich, okay, 501 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 3: because he signed the document. And there's also a part 502 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 3: in the wedding special or maybe it's an episode of 503 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 3: the next season where he says on camera, against my 504 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 3: attorney's advice, against my attorney's advice, I signed the document 505 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 3: because no piece of paper I'm paraphrasing now, but no 506 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: piece of paper is going to get in the way 507 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 3: of me and Candy being together. That's not gonna be 508 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: a good fact for Todd Tucker. However, it's not. But 509 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: it's not going to be a good fact for him, Carlos. 510 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 3: But it's not controlling enough to undermine his entire claim. 511 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: And part of the reason why is what I'm about 512 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: to tell you and point out now, both of their 513 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 3: lawyers are going to make arguments around whether or not 514 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 3: his signing of the prenup was what we call truly voluntary? 515 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: Was it truly voluntary? And when he says what I 516 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: just said, he said, against my attorney's advice, I signed 517 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: it anyway. That goes to it being voluntary. 518 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: Right. 519 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 3: But you know what doesn't bode well for Candy's side 520 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: of this argument and it being truly voluntary the time frame, 521 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 3: the fact that these two were twenty four hours before 522 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: their wedding, still going back and forth around the document 523 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 3: itself clauses what this means interpretation Already, that's a flag 524 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 3: to any judge Carlos, because ideally, for a prenup to 525 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 3: be deemed kind of best practices, this should have been 526 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: done months ago, months ago, this should have been in 527 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 3: the can. This is what this really is supposed to 528 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: look like in best practices is we set a wedding date, 529 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 3: and we each give our lawyers the document. Your lawyer 530 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: drafts it, they send it to my lawyer. We spend 531 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 3: at least, on average, with this kind of money involved, 532 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 3: a month to three months negotiating back and forth. What's fair? 533 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: Would I like what you like? Cut this out? Or 534 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: draft this? Da da da da da da. Then we 535 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: agree on the document I sign, you sign, it's notarized, 536 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 3: it's in the can at least a month, if not 537 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 3: three or four months ahead of the wedding date. When 538 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 3: you are just the nature of the pressure cooker of 539 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 3: vows start in twenty four hours now, that could easily 540 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 3: be construed as duress in its own form? Is that 541 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: making sense? Just the nature of the timeline can can 542 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: can be construed as an aspect of duress? Why? And 543 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 3: I don't know that that that this is on candy, 544 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 3: So I'm not saying that rain drops. But what I'm 545 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 3: saying is that's going to be investigated by the judge, 546 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 3: Miss Burris and your counsel. When did you deliver the 547 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 3: initial draft to mister Tatar and how long did his 548 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 3: counsel have to review it? And when did they get 549 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 3: the revisions? And how long did you to see did 550 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 3: you allow adequate reasonable time of review, consideration, and negotiation 551 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 3: and execution of the document, because if the court deems 552 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 3: you did not, and that you kind of tried to 553 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 3: run the clock out so that you were you felt 554 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 3: like your decision is marry the love of my life 555 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 3: or signed the document ill advised that that wouldn't vote 556 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 3: well for Miss Boris. 557 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 2: I have to ask the question because it's in the 558 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: comments and I want to get your expert opinion. A 559 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: lot of people are saying that with Todd because Okay, 560 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: Candy tops a claim Todd's response and said that they 561 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 2: will use the Bravo footage of the wedding series to 562 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: show that he did sign it. Now, with that being said, 563 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: the fact of the matter is Todd did sign it 564 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: the morning of his wedding. He did not have a 565 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 2: lawyer present. Yes, the Bravo cameras were there, But the 566 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: question does remain do you think that Todd was smart 567 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 2: enough to know that at the end of the day, Godfribis, 568 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 2: something may go awry. I do have this to protect myself. 569 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 7: The footage to protect himself, The footage of the fact 570 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 7: that he is signing the morning and everything and everything 571 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 7: that led to it, him having issues with Mama Joyce, 572 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 7: his his his mother makes you rest in peace, and 573 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 7: Mama Joys almost getting the physical altercation the day. 574 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: Before the wedding. He's being you know him and came 575 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: again to an ur I'm gonna tell. 576 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 3: You something else. I'm gonna tell you something else that 577 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 3: would work in his favor. Again, not controlling, but just 578 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 3: something in his bucket. There was a couple of times 579 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 3: that morning or the day before rather where Candy was 580 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 3: saying things like, what do you need to talk to 581 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: your lawyer for? Talk to him for what? This is open? 582 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 3: You know, this is this is simple. You're making something 583 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 3: out of nothing. That kind of language not ideal for 584 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 3: showing voluntariness, because what ideally would have been said is like, 585 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 3: of course, baby, call your counsel, call him a million times, 586 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 3: go over in a thousand times. I want you to 587 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 3: be completely comfortable with all the terms and conditions in 588 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 3: the document before we walk down this aisle. That's what 589 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 3: a judge is ideally looking for, not anything that looks 590 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 3: to try to circumvent the conversation with counsel because it's 591 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 3: very important. 592 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, a few more minutes. Get back to worry. 593 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 2: I want to I want to get into this so 594 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 2: that so rand on us all the legalities that we know. 595 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 8: As of today, December fourth, at the December fourth, sixty 596 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 8: seven pm Eastern Tod's attorney, Brandy Kesseler has not counter 597 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 8: claimed to Candy's response. 598 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 9: Now yesterday, Ebanie the very credible People magazine revealed that 599 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 9: a source said that Candy Birds discovered that Todd Tucker 600 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 9: was talking to other women behind her back. 601 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 2: That same day. Yesterday, Candy revealed on her Instagram a 602 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 2: post where she said how she has been dealing with 603 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 2: this for months and that sometime we have to check 604 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 2: on your strong friend. She had a photo slide of 605 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 2: her smiling and said that she was hurting and it 606 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: was in pain emotionally behind these photos. Today Today today 607 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 2: Tod posted a photo of him in a scenery background, 608 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 2: saying how he's with somebody, a friend of his, and 609 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 2: he's this journey has been difficult for How are the 610 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: interesting time? It's the timing. Do you think these two 611 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 2: people are using the media to influence the public perception? 612 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 2: Did Todd cheeto Candy? I'm emotionally distressed too, not just her. 613 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 2: Is that a factor in this that that that could 614 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 2: help the case legally? 615 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 3: I think they're doing what people in their position kind 616 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 3: of have to do right now, Carlos, which is do 617 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 3: two things at once. They're letting their lawyers, their actual lawyers, UH, 618 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 3: navigate this very real issue of divorce and custody and 619 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 3: all these things in the court of law, and because 620 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 3: of just how hugely public Candy and now Todd are, 621 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 3: they are working the court of public opinion at the 622 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 3: same time. Because if they were to do the thing 623 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 3: that we used to be told and advised to do 624 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 3: in this business, which is let it play out in 625 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 3: court and the public opinion piece will take care of itself, 626 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 3: we're seeing now that that no longer is effective. Those 627 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 3: are no longer the times we're living in, Carlos King. 628 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 3: So they are doing what public figures of their magnitude 629 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 3: must do. Actually, I would say, which is get in 630 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 3: front of some of this public narrative immediately and as 631 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 3: soon as possible. So Candy probably or her team probably 632 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 3: I think correctly assumed that if there starts to be 633 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 3: an argument around infidelity or bad actions on the part 634 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 3: of Todd Tucker, his legal team would then go to 635 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 3: her Instagram and pull all of these beautiful, gorgeous photos 636 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 3: of Candy Burris in July, of Candy Burris in March, 637 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 3: of Candy Burros in September, and say, for a woman 638 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 3: who was going through all that you just told this 639 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 3: court you're going through, I certainly can't tell this to me. 640 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you how it go down in the 641 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 3: war room. Baby. I'm telling you how to go down 642 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 3: the war room. I'm telling you how to go down 643 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 3: in the depositions because I've sat in them. I have 644 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 3: done the questioning. Well, ma'am, you just told me that 645 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 3: your husband was cheating on you with your best friend, 646 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 3: and this and that and you going through it and 647 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 3: you got postpartum? Was this you having postpartum in Malibu? 648 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 3: Was this you have? This is how it go down, baby. 649 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 3: So this is Candy and her team saying, oh no, 650 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 3: we're not gonna allow for that. We're gonna we're gonna 651 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 3: we're going to get in front of that narrative and 652 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 3: we're gonna say, despite what it looks like, despite all 653 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 3: the you know, what's an eighteen hundred hark, I mean, 654 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 3: her stylist. But but but but you know, behind the 655 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 3: oh my god, god, dang here everything okay, back to 656 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 3: the business. Said hey, I'm sorry, I was literally gaged 657 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: despite all of that stunning, gorgeousness that you see on 658 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 3: your screens. My heart breaking. I was absolutely devastated. I'm 659 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,919 Speaker 3: literally going through and then now, twenty four hours later, 660 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 3: we're not gonna let that go un answered, if we're 661 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 3: Todd Tucker and his team right, because certainly we're not 662 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 3: gonna let the opposing council or you know, opposing party 663 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 3: at this point which they are adversaries, Ladies and gentlemen. 664 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 3: Don't be confused, not saying they hate each other, not 665 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 3: even saying they don't still love each other. But when 666 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 3: it comes to what this is, in this point in time, 667 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 3: they are adversarial to one another, you better fucking believe it. Okay, 668 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 3: So he's not gonna allow his now adversary to take 669 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 3: that argument and run with it unanswered. So now we 670 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 3: too have to make our case that despite what it 671 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 3: looked like and the holding hands and the red carpets, 672 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 3: I too was struggling, I too was going through. So 673 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 3: we'll see something else I want to put out a 674 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 3: far go, Carlos. What we don't know is whether or 675 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 3: not this this prenuptial agreement had something called a bad 676 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 3: boy clause. Okay, This said is that a part of 677 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 3: the divvying of the assets and lat is predicated on behavior. Now, 678 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 3: these aren't very common because they're very hard to enforce 679 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 3: and very hard to prove, but it is. 680 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 8: It is. 681 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 3: It is something that we see. Sometimes it's rumored that 682 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 3: Jessica Bill and Justin Timberlake have such a clause that says, 683 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 3: in addition to the basic consideration who has what, who 684 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 3: made what, who brought what to the table, and when 685 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 3: they bought it, and da da dah, we're also gonna 686 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 3: consider before we make the division of assets and liabilities, 687 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 3: take into account whether one or either party committed infidelity, 688 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 3: was a bad actor. If indeed, fidelity is even you know, 689 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 3: a consideration in the marriage. So we don't know, and 690 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 3: I have no reason to know because I wouldn't know, 691 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 3: right we haven't seen the documents yet. But I just 692 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 3: want rain drops to put that on the radar that 693 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 3: if indeed there was a bad boy cl laws that says, 694 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 3: all of this looks different if mister Tucker is proven 695 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 3: to be out of fidelity, or maybe if Miss Burgess 696 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 3: is proven to be. And sometimes they go one way, 697 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 3: so don't assume that what's good for the goose is 698 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 3: good for the other. I've seen bad boy clauses that 699 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 3: only apply to the husbands. I've seen bad woman clauses 700 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 3: that only apply to the wife because it's understood that 701 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 3: the husband, because he's bringing the whole bag. Can do 702 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 3: whatever he want to do. But you bitch, you better 703 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 3: not think about it. I've seen it, so I'm just 704 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 3: telling you. 705 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 2: What it is. 706 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So go ahead, go. 707 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 2: Ahead, question questions. With that being said, With that being said, 708 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 2: With that being said, Candy and Todd have been very 709 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 2: public and open about inviting women in their bedroom. It's 710 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 2: been something that they've been very open about. They this 711 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 2: is not a secret. They have three songs. They've been 712 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 2: very open about it. They had that understanding. If there 713 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 2: is a bad boy cloth or bad woman claw in 714 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 2: the in the in the prenuptial agreement, is it plausible 715 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 2: to say if Todd decided to be with a woman 716 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 2: independently of Candy, although Candy has allowed women to enter 717 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 2: their bedroom together, is that considered cheating because he does 718 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 2: have a free pass to sleep with other women based 719 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 2: on from my understanding watching the show, if she was around, 720 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 2: but is that considered cheating? And and and we have 721 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 2: seen videos of them on Instagram. They been on boats 722 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 2: with with with a third you know, with with another 723 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 2: woman and seems to be having a good, golly time. 724 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 3: So this is the height of judges discretion. Carlos and 725 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 3: this is where you know. One thing we say in 726 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 3: the law, and I've heard this since my first day 727 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 3: of law school, is the law always lagged behind society, right, 728 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 3: So what we know are these notions of whether it's 729 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 3: threesomes or more broader polyamory. They've always existed. No one's 730 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 3: naive to it, but the visibility and maybe the frequency 731 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 3: is peaking. It's climaxing right part in the pun Okay, 732 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 3: So because of that, I could see this is gonna 733 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 3: be what judge do you get on what day? And 734 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 3: what are their personal kind of values around this sort 735 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 3: of thing. You can end up in front of a 736 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 3: judge that's very kind of old school and traditional. It 737 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 3: feels like my grandma, don't start nothing you can't finish, okay, 738 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 3: May she rest in peace. So, hey, young lady, you allowed, 739 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 3: you know, you broke the seal so to speak, you know, 740 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 3: and once you break the seal and allow one woman 741 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 3: into your bed, you are tacitly inviting unlimited women at 742 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 3: unlimited times. And it will only be a fool that 743 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 3: thinks she can control the nature of it once we've 744 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 3: allowed permissible third party participation. That's one perspective you could 745 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 3: get a more of all. We'll say judge man or 746 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 3: woman of any age by the way, that says, hey, no, 747 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 3: it don't go like that. The couple must be in 748 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 3: complete agreement at all times on what the rules and 749 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 3: participation look like. So if it's if she's known, if 750 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 3: Ms Buris knows and she's you know, volunteering, and she's willing, 751 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 3: then it's permissible. But any activity outside of her knowledge, 752 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 3: outside of her permissiveness this court is gonna deem to 753 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 3: be out of fidelity of the agreed upon relationship. So 754 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 3: that's that's gonna ultimately be the height of a judge's 755 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 3: discretion point. 756 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 2: Okay, and my last question for you is this. You 757 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 2: were very honest about, you know, not dating a bus driver, 758 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 2: right and then girl. 759 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 3: And it absolutely not. 760 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 2: Yes, it lifted, it was split. A lot of people 761 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 2: are decide, a lot of people are not on your side. Yes, 762 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 2: that's how the conversation. The last question for edby k 763 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,959 Speaker 2: Williams at least up tonight because she will be back. 764 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 765 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 2: You are a woman of means, you are a highly 766 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 2: educated woman, and you are a celebrity. You, like I said, 767 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 2: have been litten about not dating the bus driver based 768 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 2: on the fact that they're you know, the the financial 769 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 2: difference between Candy and Todd entering the relationship, and now 770 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 2: he's asking for you know, possible child support. Alumny, are 771 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 2: these the reasons why you felt so strongly about not 772 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 2: dating a bus driver to prevent yourself from being in 773 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 2: the situation? 774 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 3: But of course that's an easy answer, no shame. In 775 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 3: my game, rain Drops, this is very much a part, 776 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 3: not exclusively, but a very real part of why I 777 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 3: personally this is a me decision, each woman, each man, 778 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 3: each person gets to make this decision for themselve. But 779 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 3: for me, this would not be a risk I would 780 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 3: be willing to take. And that's based on a few things, right, Raindrops, 781 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 3: It's based off my personal value system. I'm very old school. 782 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,439 Speaker 3: I'm very much of the traditional mindset that I think 783 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 3: men in this nation we live in a patriarchy, and 784 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 3: I believe that men, despite challenges that they also go through, 785 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,720 Speaker 3: I think they are put in best position to climb 786 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 3: the capitalism ladder of this nation based off of male 787 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 3: patriarchal systems. So what do I look like tethering myself 788 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 3: legally for sure to a man that I'm out earning 789 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 3: when the whole system is designed for you to out 790 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 3: earn me. So I got a problem with that, and 791 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 3: I have no problem saying that, put it on a 792 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 3: T shirt. That's fine, fine, totally fine with it. But 793 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,919 Speaker 3: in addition to that, because I have practiced family law, 794 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 3: I know what it's like to see sherry share. And 795 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 3: I also have relationships with women who have paid child 796 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,439 Speaker 3: support for their own children. I have relationships with women 797 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 3: who have paid spousal support to men for years, to 798 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 3: multiple men. Some of these women and they're not all famous. 799 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 3: Some of them are accountants, some of them are CEOs, 800 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 3: some of them are you know, working healthcare positions, you know, 801 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 3: And that's again, not a risk I am personally willing 802 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,240 Speaker 3: to take. So I want to be clear before anybody 803 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 3: thinks anything funny style, I am not calling Todd Tucker 804 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 3: a bus driver at all. I believe that Todd was 805 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,720 Speaker 3: a working individual, that he bought many things to the table, 806 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 3: and Candy made sure we knew that. But the discrepancy 807 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:39,720 Speaker 3: is undisputed. The financial discrepancy between herself and Todd remained severe. 808 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 3: And when there is a severe discrepancy from the man, 809 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 3: the woman whoever it is this risk of money grab 810 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,720 Speaker 3: accusations is going to always be at play. 811 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 2: Ebony, I know you got to run. Thank you so much, 812 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,359 Speaker 2: my love for breaking this down for you are listen, 813 00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 2: she knows this already. 814 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 6: You will have been heavy requested your arms were president, and. 815 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 2: I know you're busy on the West coast, but I 816 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 2: want to say thank you so much for taking time out. 817 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,720 Speaker 3: I love you, and I. 818 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 2: Get my best a Liberty and I will see you 819 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 2: some of my. 820 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 3: Live I will love you. Rain Drops y'alls by Sweetie 821 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 3: Bye Carlos. 822 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so rain drops, you have it here. 823 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,399 Speaker 6: Ebony broke it down. Ebony broke it down. Ebney broke 824 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,240 Speaker 6: it down. Ebony broke it down. 825 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 2: I want to read the super chat really fast before 826 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,280 Speaker 2: I have to run myself job to get my food. 827 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 2: I gotta eat tu seven o'clock job. 828 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 6: Sweet talks the Mama Joyce's behavior along with the pressure 829 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 6: of being filmed at to the duress. 830 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think what we're seeing now is 831 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 2: I thought Candy's filing for divorce was very straight and narrow. 832 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 2: It wasn't anything that I thought was relacious. Then Todd responded, 833 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 2: and Todd, I think what Todd asked for. 834 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 6: If they're unable to agree to joint to the custody 835 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 6: of the kids, then. 836 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 2: You know people want X, Y and Z. I think 837 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 2: that's when people started parkling, like what's going on? And 838 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 2: then when he challenged the prenup, challenging, challenging, excuse me 839 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 2: the prenup, I think the audience was like, oh, this 840 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 2: is about to get a little messy. So to answer 841 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 2: your question, sweet Tea talks, I don't know. I think 842 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,399 Speaker 2: I think more is going to come out. And one 843 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 2: thing I will say about being in the media is 844 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 2: this okay, And and hear me, Lillington brain drops when 845 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 2: you see things like bread crumbs being dropped, something big 846 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 2: is about to happen when you see like little bread crumbs. 847 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 2: And People Magazine is very different than I don't want 848 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 2: to I want to mention outlet because I'm not trying 849 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 2: to like say one is high to the other. But 850 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 2: what I will say is People Magazine in order for 851 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 2: them to publish a story, and I know this for 852 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 2: a fact, I am a journalist. Hey, porscha, People Magazine 853 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 2: is the most credible entertainment magazine in the world. In 854 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 2: order for them to publish anything from a source, they 855 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 2: need more than two sources. And that's just the fact, 856 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 2: me sweating job, that's a fact. You need more than 857 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 2: two sources for People Magazine to publish anything. They're not 858 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 2: gonna take a phone call from Edna because she heard 859 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 2: on the streets. M okay at First Avenue or you 860 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 2: know she read on the YouTube streets. Child, what, No, 861 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 2: they're not going to which I think a lot of 862 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 2: people should not do. But I digress. 863 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 6: Stop reporting on things that isn't substantial anyway. They're not 864 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 6: going to report on anything unless they get multiple sources. 865 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 6: So what happened yesterday? 866 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 2: I was like, People Magazine, my people, So that happened? 867 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:30,760 Speaker 2: And then I know you got look, wait a minute, Carlos. 868 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 2: Miss Edna's reliable too, Yes, child, But I'm just saying 869 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,800 Speaker 2: not when it comes to sources that People Magazine is 870 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 2: gonna take without talking to miss Edna in addition to 871 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 2: two more people. Child, That's all I'm saying. Okay, So 872 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 2: when I saw that, I was like, oh, these are breadcrumbs, 873 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 2: cause that's how the video works. It is with this child. Okay, 874 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 2: Oh I missed this. This This is a question for 875 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 2: Ebony when Leina and c Hey, Carlos and Ebony. If 876 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 2: toad Chie could he still get alamoney love y'all, I'll 877 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 2: bring you know what I want to do. Actually, I won't. 878 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:16,280 Speaker 6: Me and Ebony to come back and then maybe bring 879 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 6: on a Georgia divorce lawyer to talk. 880 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 2: To ebd and I because I like that. Because the 881 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 2: thing is this, Everything is contingent on the state. When 882 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 2: you get married. State laws are different. As you all though. 883 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 2: That's that, all right. Last question from page four one 884 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 2: two eight Carlos as a producer for Candy's wedding special, 885 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 2: how did you feel about Candy gimming Todd the pre 886 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,720 Speaker 2: nup forty eight hours forty eight hours before the wedding. 887 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 2: I saw that the comment. First of all, I have 888 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 2: no feelings in terms of I follow me as a producer, 889 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 2: I follow the reality. I don't I don't invoke my 890 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,800 Speaker 2: personal opinion based on the reality of the people were filming. 891 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 2: So I wastly busy following it in real time. I 892 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,479 Speaker 2: did see the comments built A lot of you guys 893 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 2: are saying that she gave him the prenup forty eight 894 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 2: hours before they got married. I don't. I don't know 895 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 2: if that is true, I have to I have to 896 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 2: go back and watch the season. Based on my memory, 897 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,839 Speaker 2: I think he had it. I don't listen, I would, 898 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 2: I don't think. Listen. I don't think Todd had a 899 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 2: first draft of the prenup forty eight hours before they 900 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 2: were married. I don't think that's the case. I think 901 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:46,320 Speaker 2: what may have been the case is maybe the final 902 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 2: draft on Candy's part was sent to him forty eight hours. 903 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 2: But I don't think he received a first draft forty 904 00:55:53,000 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 2: eight hours. So you know, but who, okay who? We 905 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:07,240 Speaker 2: watched the wedding special here, Okay, the diva just me said. 906 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,280 Speaker 2: I heard he got it three weeks before. 907 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 6: Okay, I'm what I'm gonna do is look at the 908 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,360 Speaker 6: the wedding special again, because I don't remember. 909 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 2: I don't remember, but I do not. I'm ninety nine 910 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 2: percent sure he did not receive a first draft forty 911 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 2: eight hours. I don't think so at all. I don't 912 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 2: think that. But he did receive the final document the 913 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 2: morning of the wedding. 914 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 6: Because we were there filming it. So all right, ray listen, 915 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 6: I'll hope you guys enjoyed this episode. We will be 916 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 6: back more and when more information occurs, and thank you 917 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 6: guys so much, and I'm dropping. 918 00:56:54,680 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 2: I'm driving another episode tomorrow. Okay, so make sure you 919 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,720 Speaker 2: guys go on Patreon, Patreon, doctor Hevle and I. 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