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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discuss the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds. And Judge A. Goren has reprimanded former

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Speaker 1: President Trump for posting a false personal attack on the

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Speaker 1: judges clerk. We have such a great show for you today.

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Speaker 1: Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett checks in with us right before the

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Speaker 1: vote to strip Kevin McCarthy of his speakership. Then we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to NBC's news is Ben Collins about his Blockbusters

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Speaker 1: story on how a white supremacist newspaper article inspired Elon's

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Speaker 1: game plan for Twitter. But first we have the Mary

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Speaker 1: Trump Shows, the One the Only Mary Trump. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Fast Politics, my favorite friend and to someone I

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Speaker 1: really adore, Mary Trump.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Mollie, it is great to be here. It is

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Speaker 2: always better to share the apocalypse with you.

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Speaker 1: It's true. I feel like we've lost so many years

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Speaker 1: of our lives to your uncle. Obviously it's not your fault,

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Speaker 1: it's he's your uncle. But years ago, would you ever

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Speaker 1: think that he'd be holding the entire country hostage?

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Speaker 2: No, there was literally no reason to think that he'd

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Speaker 2: be holding a network hostage.

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Speaker 3: At the beginning of the all. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's absurd.

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Speaker 2: It's a devastating indictment against so called it adults in America.

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Speaker 2: And I was actually just working on a piece about

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Speaker 2: this stupid age controversy.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're the same age. For anybody who's listening,

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Speaker 3: Donald and Biden are the same age?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Does everybody wish Biden were younger? Including Biden? Sure?

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Speaker 2: I wish I were because it feels like the last

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Speaker 2: seven years have been three decades.

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Speaker 1: It's true. It's such a good point. I mean, there

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Speaker 1: is such a feeling that we are in this soul

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Speaker 1: vacuum of the last seven years. Right now, Trump is

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Speaker 1: in New York for this fraud case. It feels like

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Speaker 1: this fraud case, which is by the way, one of many,

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Speaker 1: and it's sort of a different kind of case than

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Speaker 1: a lot of his other cases. It's a civil case,

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Speaker 1: I think, and so it's not a case where he

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Speaker 1: could end up in jail. But it does seem to

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Speaker 1: me like this is this case where it's the family

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Speaker 1: business has hit him in a way that other cases

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple things. First of all, yes, it is

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Speaker 3: a civil case. It should absolutely have been a criminal case.

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Speaker 3: In fact, the codes being cited in the case are

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Speaker 3: all criminal codes.

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Speaker 2: It just shows you how corrupt the DOJ was under

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Speaker 2: Bill bar And listen, he had a lot of company.

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Speaker 2: Syvan's could have done something about this a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: The man who preceded Elvin Brad. Yeah, a good point

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Speaker 2: about Syvan's. Don't give Syvans a pass.

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Speaker 3: No, let's not do that.

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Speaker 2: So Donald is in court because as you as you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: this case matters to him more than any other. First

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Speaker 2: of all, he doesn't care if he's accused of stealing

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Speaker 2: the election or stealing documents, because he can justify.

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Speaker 3: This in his own little mind.

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Speaker 2: He thinks it makes him look tough, that he's beating

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Speaker 2: and he's unfortunately not wrong about that. This goes to

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Speaker 2: he is on the most fundamental level, And as this

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Speaker 3: This is the.

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Speaker 2: Last nail in the coffin of the empire my grandfather created,

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Speaker 2: and it shows that he is a fraud and that

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Speaker 2: if he's some kind of schoolyard bully. And he's gonna

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Speaker 3: And that's the beautiful thing about it.

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Speaker 1: So Trump sort of built this empire from stealing from

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Speaker 1: his siblings. Well he didn't build any one of whom

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Speaker 2: Not exactly what happened is that during my grandfather's lifetime,

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Speaker 2: he disproportionately favored Donald, so that, as we learned in

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Speaker 2: father aunts and other uncle did not receive the same benefit,

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Speaker 3: That he had that leg up first of all.

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Speaker 1: And then, yes, Kristen, he and his sister go get

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Speaker 2: Yes, they essentially got together and made sure that this

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Speaker 2: pay as much an inheritance tax.

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Speaker 1: Right, which is cheating the irs.

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Speaker 3: Cheating the irs.

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Speaker 2: And the other goal was to make sure that my

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Speaker 3: So when my grandfather died, they were claiming that his

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Speaker 2: I literally do I think he owned something like forty

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Speaker 2: years later they sold it for seven hundred million.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So it turns out that devaluing assets is a

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Speaker 1: common Trump family tactic.

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Speaker 2: It would appear, So I'm not saying it's an uncommon practice.

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Speaker 1: Right, it is illegal, though, I mean, I think it's

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Speaker 1: important to realize, like, intentionally misstating the value of assets

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Speaker 2: Well, and also, let's put it this way, there's also

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Speaker 2: the scale at which one does that. There's also the

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Speaker 2: flip flopping on it. What he seems to have done

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Speaker 2: is overvalue for purposes of getting loans, undervalue for purposes

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Speaker 2: then becomes because it's you know, quote unquote comment practice.

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Speaker 2: We get headlines like at Donald's fraud trial's first day,

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Speaker 2: opposing views on property valuation. Well, okay, yeah, they're closing views,

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Speaker 2: but one of them is corrupt, false, and illegal, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, both of them are, they're just for different reasons.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I mean the county's assessment or the IRS assessment. Right, no, question,

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Speaker 1: As we are sitting here like talking about this trial,

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Speaker 1: a continual stream of trials. What I think is interesting

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Speaker 1: about this trial is like, he didn't need to be here, right,

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Speaker 1: He's here because he thinks it'll help his cakes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he does well.

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Speaker 2: I think it's also he's there to make sure that

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Speaker 2: and that's a huge strategic mistake on his work.

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Speaker 1: Say more about that. That's quite interesting for.

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Speaker 2: Reasons that aren't entirely clear, either because his lawyer is

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Speaker 2: fucked up or because this was going to be a

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Speaker 2: means the judge is going to rule, which, as we know,

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Speaker 2: here because the judge has adjudged that the facts favor

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Speaker 2: the prosecution's argument. So what Donald seems to think is

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Speaker 2: going to help his case is for his lawyers to

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Speaker 2: But it's as if Donald is not interested in making

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Speaker 2: the case for the judge. He's interested in making the

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Speaker 1: If that makes sense right. Trump has a lot of

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Speaker 1: seems in my mind that Trump is kind of diminished.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he really is, and that's why he's doing all

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Speaker 3: He thinks it's a sign of strength.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure why he thinks that, but it's clearly

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Speaker 2: a side of weakness and desperation. He thinks that his

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Speaker 2: and he just seems increasingly like a whiny, aggrieved toddler.

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Speaker 2: I don't I'm not totally sure why there was a

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Speaker 3: We see him just sitting there.

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Speaker 2: He's pouting, he's looking like somebody who just had his

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Speaker 2: but again, it just shows you how important this is

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Speaker 1: I just want to know, like he is the Republican

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Speaker 1: but he clearly doesn't scale Right, McCarthy would not have

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Speaker 1: this is like clearly a case of Trump having diminished

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Speaker 1: just am curious. You know a lot about psychology, you

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Speaker 2: What it looks like is absolute chaos and just the

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Speaker 2: stark truth that the Republican Party, with or without Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: need to take that in. Let's stop pretending that there's

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Speaker 2: down with him. We already see this with his engaging

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Speaker 2: Donald's political a vote it. He's just doing his job essentially.

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Speaker 2: So it's the same thing writ large in the Republican Party,

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Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy stands for nothing. Medgate stands for nothing except

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Speaker 2: I'd like to think that the events of the last

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 1: Lara was getting a lot of push to run for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an understatement. He couldn't care less.

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Speaker 2: They exist to serve his needs and help him in

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Speaker 2: he has that in comic with my grandfather. My grandfather's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really not what you want in a president

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Speaker 1: I'm laughing to keep from crying again. But it is

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. If the Republicans can't deliver for him, then

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Speaker 2: We see how he gets rid of people who aren't

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. We want to edit a good note,

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Speaker 1: No, that's no problem. Tell us the problem. That's good.

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Speaker 3: Well, the problem is that it won't stop with the

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's not like he'll destroy the Republican

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Speaker 2: So I think what we need to do is just

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Speaker 3: That's the best we can hope for it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mary Trump. Can't wait to see you. We're

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Speaker 1: both going to be at the New Republic Stop Trump's

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Speaker 2: I did you.

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Speaker 3: I just wish they'd put a little asterisk next to Trump.

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Speaker 3: It can get awkward if people were there to stop me.

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Speaker 1: Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett represents Texas's thirtieth district. Welcome to Fast Politics, Congresswoman.

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Speaker 4: Crockett, Hey, I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: We're so happy to have you. Incredible course of events.

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Speaker 1: So the reason I booked you was, do you remember

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but like we met at the correspondence dinner maybe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right. But I was so incredibly

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Speaker 1: blown away by your speaking at the impeachment hearing. Talk

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Speaker 1: Like I've never seen an impeachment hearing turn into a

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Speaker 7: Listen the Republicans they may not like the terms. That

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Speaker 7: the Oversight Committee. And you know, this wasn't really so

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Speaker 7: much about defending the president as much as it was

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Speaker 1: So you're a lawyer, you come from Texas, you served

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Speaker 5: Listen.

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Speaker 7: I will applaud the Texas House Speaker Dade Feelin. I

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Speaker 7: definitely the House. It is very disappointing that we consistently

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Speaker 7: what is right, no matter how much there's nothing that

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you right now, it's seems like

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Speaker 5: I mean, we've been united since day one.

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Speaker 7: If anybody's been paying attention on anything that was super

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Speaker 7: But if we needed to do it, we would have.

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Speaker 1: I think that McCarthy desperately needs some Democrats to save him.

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Speaker 1: any number of reasons. Do you think that there are

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Speaker 7: I think the caucus is united, and I want to

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Speaker 7: But to be clear, McCarthy hasn't really done anything that

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Speaker 5: They're very very clear.

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Speaker 7: And what I can say is that Republicans are the

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Speaker 5: Yet again, that is for sure.

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Speaker 5: Do I have guess? Do I have my job?

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Speaker 4: What it was that they felt like I should do.

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Speaker 7: And I was shocked that they're paying this close of attention,

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Speaker 7: People just want government to function, regardless as to who

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Speaker 1: Some of this machination feels like it's two in the

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Speaker 7: And you know, I have those constituents that are just

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Speaker 7: You know, I've got to do some interviews with some

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Speaker 7: to put it on the local news networks what was

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Speaker 7: going on that may be what's happening. I'm not really sure,

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Speaker 7: but I was really shocked, but in a good way,

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Speaker 7: because I want people to pay attention. When I ran

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Speaker 7: for office, one of the things that I said is

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Speaker 7: that I want to be held accountable because that's one

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Speaker 7: of the things that I think we fail to do

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Speaker 7: with elected officials. So I am confident in all votes

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Speaker 7: that I take. I know that not everyone will ever

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Speaker 7: agree with me one hundred percent, but I want to

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Speaker 7: hear from my constituents.

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Speaker 5: I believe in democracy.

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Speaker 7: I believe that I should be challenged if my district

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Speaker 7: feels as if I am not truly adequately representing their

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Speaker 7: voices in Congress. I believe in this stuff like I

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Speaker 7: drink the koul Ai right, I can't really say that

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Speaker 7: the other side really believes in how we are supposed

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Speaker 7: to function, as evidence by the way that they have functions.

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Speaker 7: I think that Matt Gates is an attention whrror, and

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Speaker 7: I think that the media helps him out.

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Speaker 5: With that because this is a half baked idea.

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Speaker 7: There is no way that anyone under Nancy Pelosi, regardless

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Speaker 7: of how they may have felt about her, would not

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Speaker 7: have orchestrated anything of the kind, even if it only

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Speaker 7: took one vote. They wouldn't have done it simply because

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Speaker 7: you can't do this in a half baked way. This

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Speaker 7: is half baked. He has no plan, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the question. So they remove McCarthy

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Speaker 1: and there's no one else. I mean, does anyone even

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Speaker 1: want this job in the Republican Party.

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Speaker 7: If they have any semblance of a mind, they would

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Speaker 7: not want this job at all, because, mind you, he's being.

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Speaker 4: Baked because he managed to keep the government open.

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Speaker 7: Like what world are we living in where the biggest

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Speaker 7: problem that we have is that we're going to keep

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Speaker 7: the government open, that we're gonna make sure that the

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Speaker 7: people that work hardest for us, the people that they've

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Speaker 7: been really against and complaining about and saying that they're

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Speaker 7: not working hard enough that they don't need to work

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Speaker 7: at home, the people that are complaining because our constituents

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Speaker 7: are calling us telling us that they can't get passports and.

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Speaker 4: All the things, and they're saying, never mind, shut it out.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 7: But it also doesn't make sense that the terrible bills

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Speaker 7: that he's keeping us here for the next two weeks,

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Speaker 7: even though we were supposed to be at home and

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Speaker 7: have our district work period for these two weeks. They're

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Speaker 7: just messaging bills. He's not trying to govern. These bills

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Speaker 7: have no chance of making it through the Senate, no

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Speaker 7: chance of making it to the President's desk and being

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Speaker 7: signed into law because they are way too draconian.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I was actually going to ask you,

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Speaker 1: was if the Speaker gets removed and there's no one,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily matter per se, because I mean, the

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Speaker 1: only thing he's been able to do is name all

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Speaker 1: those post office right.

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Speaker 5: That is true.

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Speaker 7: There's nothing that he's attempted to work on in a

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Speaker 7: bipartisan way, and there's no clean way that I can

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Speaker 7: see for us to truly hold McCarthy to a new

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Speaker 7: standard and say, listen, you can continue to be beholden.

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Speaker 5: To this very small.

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Speaker 7: Radical caucus, or you can just walk across the aisle

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Speaker 7: and meet us in the middle. I mean to have

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Speaker 7: conversations with Republicans that are voting for bills that they

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Speaker 7: don't even believe in.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm asking, I'm.

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Speaker 7: Like, how could you vote for this, say for agriculture, right, agriculture,

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Speaker 7: they want to cut funding all the way down to

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Speaker 7: two thousand and seven numbers. We're dealing with the farm

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Speaker 7: bill this year, and our farmers are hurting. We see

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Speaker 7: what's going on as relates the climate change, those climate

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Speaker 7: issues that we're having, these climate emergencies. They're not just happening,

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Speaker 7: say in Florida to the non farmers, right, They're happening everywhere,

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Speaker 7: and our farmers are hurting, and our farmers are the

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Speaker 7: ones that make sure that we can all eat. And

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Speaker 7: so the idea that you say, no, no, no, we're

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Speaker 7: going to make sure there's less money. We're going to

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Speaker 7: go to two thousand and seven numbers, which means that

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Speaker 7: we've not adjusted for regular inflation, let alone hyperinflation. And

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Speaker 7: they've decided that crypto is now a commodity that falls

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Speaker 7: under agriculture. So we've passed the bad partisan bill where

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Speaker 7: we said ninety million dollars for an agency to make

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Speaker 7: sure that they can oversee crypto, like in what world?

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, why are y'all voting for this.

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Speaker 3: Terrible ag bill?

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Speaker 7: And it's also that they can say, well, you know what,

526
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Speaker 7: we've bought a cut spending like no, no, no, Let's tell

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Speaker 7: the real story in real life, if you don't have

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Speaker 7: the money that you need, but you've got necessities. You've

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Speaker 7: got to keep the roof, you've got to make sure

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Speaker 7: that you've got a car, You've got to make sure

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Speaker 7: you've got guess, you got to make sure you've got food.

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Speaker 4: You got to make sure you've got health care.

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Speaker 7: You got to make sure that you have these necessities covered.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: Real people in.

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Speaker 7: The real world a lot of times end up going

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Speaker 7: to get in the second job or a third job.

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Speaker 7: And I'm not saying that that's right, but people do

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Speaker 7: what they've got to do to serve. So the idea

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Speaker 7: that the Republicans refused to look for any other way

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Speaker 7: to bring in more money, which means that we tax

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Speaker 7: the rich.

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Speaker 4: That's the problem. We can't survive this way.

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Speaker 1: So do you think there's a world in which Democrats

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Speaker 1: are open to a power sharing agreement with the Republicans?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I absolutely think there's a world.

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Speaker 7: The problem is that we don't have an honorable broker

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Speaker 7: on the other side of the deal that would enter

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Speaker 7: into such an agreement.

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Speaker 5: That we could say we can trust this. That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: There's really no one to trust on the Republican side, right.

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Speaker 5: There really isn't. I don't know who it would be.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think that leadership has a better idea

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Speaker 7: of some potential options because they've been here longer. But

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Speaker 7: anybody that probably is semi trustworthy probably would never.

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Speaker 5: Get the votes. That's the reality.

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Speaker 7: Like, they probably wouldn't get the votes because that far

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Speaker 7: right flank again would not want to see that person.

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Speaker 7: Matt is having a conundrum because things are passing in

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Speaker 7: a bipartisan way. I don't know when we got to

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Speaker 7: this world, but this is the world that we're living

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Speaker 7: in where we have a House that's run by Republicans

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Speaker 7: that don't believe in bipartisanship and somehow can't recognize you know,

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Speaker 7: I feel like we should take them back to the

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Speaker 7: YouTube video of like how you do a bill or whatever? Right, Like,

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Speaker 7: you're never going to get this crap through the Senate

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Speaker 7: and to the President and get him to sign it anyway,

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Speaker 7: you may as well work in a bipartisan way, right.

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Speaker 1: I Mean, that's the thing. It's just incredible to watch

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Speaker 1: Republicans scramble. Does Trump want Gates to shut down the government?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, No, absolutely, Gates is just a tool, and he

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Speaker 7: is trying to be as extreme as he can, kind

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Speaker 7: of like his failed governor who is about to go

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Speaker 7: down in this Republican primary. You know, Gates, it's our

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Speaker 7: understanding he wants to become the governor of Florida. So

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Speaker 7: the more extreme and radical he acts, the more points

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Speaker 7: he feels like he puts up on the scoreboard with

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Speaker 7: Trump as well as the extremists, and he's thinking that

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Speaker 7: he's most likely in a good position to get the

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Speaker 7: governor's mansion in Florida. Unfortunately, we need him so function

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Speaker 7: as a responsible congress person at this moment, you know,

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Speaker 7: because one of the things that had been discussed widely

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Speaker 7: was this idea of the disaster funding and hoping that

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Speaker 7: that would entice the lights of.

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Speaker 4: A Matt Gate. I mean, it's like, dude, you're in Florida.

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Speaker 7: Your constituency is directly impacted by shutting this down because

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Speaker 7: we know that this emergency disaster funding will become problematic,

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Speaker 7: and you still voted against it, Like you're not voting

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Speaker 7: your district at all.

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Speaker 5: Like, I mean, that's that's just what they.

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Speaker 1: Do, so important and so true. Congresswoman Crockett, we have

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Speaker 1: to let you get to let you get to your vote.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you your time so much. Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely have a good one.

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Speaker 1: Ben Collins is a senior investigative reporter for NBC News.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fast Politics, Ben Collins.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Bradley Mulley.

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Speaker 1: What is going on? This is a wild story. First

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Speaker 1: of all, how tell us the top line and how

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Speaker 1: did you discover those?

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Speaker 6: Basically, there is this text that was sent to Elon

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Speaker 6: Musk about ten days before he bought Twitter that outlines

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Speaker 6: almost exactly what you would do for the next eighteen

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Speaker 6: months after he bought the company. It was a link

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Speaker 6: to an article by it's guy named Darren Batty. Oh

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Speaker 6: and Darren Beatty, Yeah, you might know this if you're

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Speaker 6: deep in the weeds on what i'd call rat bookers

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Speaker 6: on yes, really try to mess with politics from the

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Speaker 6: inside out. You probably know Darren Beatty, frequent guest on

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Speaker 6: Tucker Carlson's show, a big guy in that space. You

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Speaker 6: probably know him best from being fired from the Trump

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Speaker 6: White House. He was a speechwriter for Stephen Miller and

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Speaker 6: some other people. In the truck White House.

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Speaker 1: It turned out to be a white nationalist, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Basically he spoke along this guy on a panel who

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Speaker 6: runs this White House I supposed to called v Dare.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, v Dare I remember yet?

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Speaker 7: Go on?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So he writes this thing. It's basically, here's what

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Speaker 6: Elon Musk will do once he buys Twitter. Ten days

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Speaker 6: after the story comes out, Elon buyer, and then it

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Speaker 6: outlines basically exactly what happened. It talks about him losing

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Speaker 6: all of his regular users once he lest right wires

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Speaker 6: back on, bar right people back on. Then it says

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Speaker 6: he should blame the ADL for it, which is like

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Speaker 6: most people in the last few weeks, Elon's spewed to

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Speaker 6: the ADL came out of nowhere, wildly antismitic, which it is.

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Speaker 6: There was precedence for this in this sphere where Darren

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Speaker 6: Batty lives. It really lines up one to one. It

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Speaker 6: even talks about things like being softer on Russia. He

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Speaker 6: says that Russia in this game plan has been canceled

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Speaker 6: right using the George Floyd tactic is what it says

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Speaker 6: in there. So it lines up one to one, not

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Speaker 6: only with Elon's politics but with his decisions, and that

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Speaker 6: text was revealed last year in a lawsuit from when

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Speaker 6: Elon tried to back out of buying Twitter. Twitter actually

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Speaker 6: sued Elon to go through with that enormous inflated purchase

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Speaker 6: price that Elon off. The issue is a big problem

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Speaker 6: that we had for nine months in looking into these texts,

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Speaker 6: is we still don't know who sent him this text. Right,

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Speaker 6: That's what my colleague, Lord Colauney, and I have been

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Speaker 6: trying to deduce for nine months. But this is this

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Speaker 6: is our last like tree shaking thing that we can do.

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Speaker 6: We can say what we know here. The judge in

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Speaker 6: the Delaware Chancery Court has said that whoever sent this

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Speaker 6: doesn't have to be revealed necessarily. There are people that

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Speaker 6: have this document, with this unredacted document that says who

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Speaker 6: you sent this text. If you're one of those people,

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Speaker 6: just please hit me up because I would love to know.

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Speaker 1: I always think that it's never the person playing three

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Speaker 1: dimensional chass because like, I came of age in the time,

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Speaker 1: and came of age is obviously hyperbole, but of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: So I always think it's like awk, I'm stupid, Right,

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Speaker 1: It's always this straight line. So this would in fact

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Speaker 1: point to the idea that Elon is not just like Trump,

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Speaker 1: that he's not just sort of trying to stay alive

659
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Speaker 1: another day, but that he does have a grand plan.

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Speaker 6: So it's kept to a lot of people on the

661
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Speaker 6: Elon speats throughout this space other than the tech world.

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Speaker 6: They come out from that end, from the sort of

663
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Speaker 6: culty alternative lifestyle world that need in habits as well,

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Speaker 6: and they all basically have combed to the same conclusion.

665
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Speaker 6: A person can have a plan that sucks, right, Like,

666
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 6: the plan can be really dumb, right, and you can

667
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Speaker 6: follow through the plan that might even be detrimental to you.

668
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 6: It can definitely be detrimental to most people, but it's

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Speaker 6: still a plan, and that's basically what this was. And

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Speaker 6: this story sort of outlines that as well. It talks

671
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Speaker 6: Darren Baby's plan says, look, you're going to lose a

672
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Speaker 6: lot of your money. You should buy this company out right,

673
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Speaker 6: and you're going to lose a lot of your money.

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Speaker 6: All the advertisers will flee. They're all in on it

675
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Speaker 6: on this big globalist American agenda. But only you, sir,

676
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Speaker 6: only you can take down the globalist American Empire says

677
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Speaker 6: it like that in that article. So this is his

678
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Speaker 6: Blaze of Glory. And by the way, that's the nickname

679
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Speaker 6: for the app when you look it up in the

680
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Speaker 6: app store now x Twitter, it says Blazier Glory, right,

681
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Speaker 6: And that's what this is. He's going out in guns

682
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Speaker 6: a blazing. That's what this looks like.

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Speaker 1: So what does it say that he's going to do next.

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Speaker 6: So that's sort of the issue with this whole thing

685
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Speaker 6: is that it sort of ends at destroy everything and

686
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Speaker 6: leave everything in rubble. Like this story doesn't have like

687
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 6: a like a lot of things. Steve Bannon accolytes think

688
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 6: it's mostly just about tearing things apart and then rebuilding

689
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Speaker 6: from there, and they assume that, you know, people can

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Speaker 6: capitalize from there. That's the issue with this. This story

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Speaker 6: ends with Twitter being form apart, there being no direct

692
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Speaker 6: line to the news anymore, people being lost in the

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Speaker 6: information ecosystem being hasn't happened. But the issue is there

694
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Speaker 6: is no plan from here. That's sort of the issue

695
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Speaker 6: with Dan and Knight politics as it is, you know,

696
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Speaker 6: the the baby Tucker Carlson style thing. It's all about

697
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Speaker 6: getting rid of these guys you think are in the

698
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Speaker 6: way the ADL or you know whatever that ethnic substitute

699
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Speaker 6: you would be for that, you know, getting the Clinton's

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Speaker 6: out or getting the Biden's out or getting the obamasucking

701
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 6: always by the way, but there's no replacement. They think

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Speaker 6: it's a step to a white national style state, but

703
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Speaker 6: there is no land from here. It's just destruction.

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Speaker 1: So the next plan is just flood the zone. Was

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Speaker 1: a conservative media conservative with with al right media and

706
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Speaker 1: hope that that somehow wins use the election in twenty four.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, confusion and panic and chaos and maya, that's the plan.

708
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Speaker 6: And also, by the way, this helps Elon's business interest.

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Speaker 6: You know, there are a lot of regulators we're sort

710
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Speaker 6: of zeroing in on Elon about full self driving the

711
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 6: Tesla thing that right is not full or self and

712
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Speaker 6: also SpaceX, which had a pretty disastrous launch that because

713
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 6: of Twitter they were able to reframe as you know,

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Speaker 6: a successful mission, things like that.

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Speaker 1: But that is there now.

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Speaker 6: Under particularly through need from regulatory age these so that

717
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Speaker 6: has been helpful to him, Like the chaos is helpful

718
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Speaker 6: in the interim, and this state is pretty good, pretty

719
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Speaker 6: good place for Elon to be right now, he gets

720
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Speaker 6: to have control over the pipeline to then do this,

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Speaker 6: and this is basically where I think he wanted to

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Speaker 6: end up. This is a good situation, especially considering you know,

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Speaker 6: all the contenders have also sort of failed to launch

724
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Speaker 6: or have gone up and burst into blames immediately.

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Speaker 1: But he can't service the DAD. I mean, even though

726
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Speaker 1: he's the richest man in the world, he still has

727
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Speaker 1: to service the DAD. So ideologically this he's winning. But financially,

728
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Speaker 1: even though he's the richest man in the world, isn't

729
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Speaker 1: this ultimately unsustainable?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, of course it's understandable. In fact, like it's kind

731
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Speaker 6: of crazy to be a better progress built a lot

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Speaker 6: of people. Again, a lot of people sort of benefit

733
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Speaker 6: from the destruction of a very useful citizen journalist pipeline

734
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Speaker 6: that we've built over the last ten years.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: You know, Saudi's are also part of people who invested

737
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Speaker 6: in this in China as well. You don't want people

738
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Speaker 6: finding out about human rights abuses and then those things

739
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Speaker 6: going viral and then the news having to cover them.

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Speaker 6: So I'm not saying that they are I don't I

741
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Speaker 6: have no information on this. This This here is expect right,

742
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Speaker 6: I'm not saying they're in on it. I don't know

743
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Speaker 6: any about that, but I will say that it is

744
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Speaker 6: probably a better news environment for them than where we

745
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 6: were before, where Jamal Kashobi's death could be at amplified

746
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 6: all day long as like the number one trend on Twitter.

747
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Speaker 6: Now it would be muddied with a bunch of I

748
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Speaker 6: would say, stupid bullshit.

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Speaker 1: So I'm glad you feel comfortable cursing here. I'm sorry

750
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: to be like the boring finance person here, but there's

751
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Speaker 1: still no way for Elon to service this debt. So

752
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Speaker 1: sooner or later X ends up owned by the bank.

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Speaker 6: Yes, at some point they will come calling on this stuff.

754
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Speaker 6: It depends on I just don't know when that is right.

755
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 6: And the banks also a lot of these places have

756
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Speaker 6: money tied up in the myth of Elon and other

757
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 6: sectors right right in SpaceX and Tesla and the boring

758
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 6: company in all your places. Just because that myth of

759
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 6: Elon has been exposed through this, they still have to

760
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 6: make it work on these other places.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it definitely appears like he went rogue with

763
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Speaker 6: his stuff, and the respectable parts of finance now have

764
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Speaker 6: to come collect the bag. But I don't know how

765
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Speaker 6: long this can last. You're exactly right, moll. This is

766
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Speaker 6: not something that a person who in good stead would

767
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Speaker 6: want their money tied up into.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was purchased for forty four billion dollars,

769
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Speaker 1: so a lot of people have billions of dollars invested

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Speaker 1: in this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 6: It's not a pretty seat, it really isn't.

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Speaker 1: Is there some reason why Threads has had such inability

774
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Speaker 1: to capture the market share?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's a series of things, Like the

776
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Speaker 6: magic of Twitter is that it really did drive the

777
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Speaker 6: news it drives still to this day. The ability to

778
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Speaker 6: sort of sort of aimlessly yell at power get people's attention.

779
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Speaker 6: Did you see that thing this weekend with the liftcats situation? Now, okay,

780
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Speaker 6: there was this guy who was going to the vet

781
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Speaker 6: and he left his hat on the other side of

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Speaker 6: the footwell nearsid of the car, and then he got

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Speaker 6: out of the car to go to the other side

784
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Speaker 6: of the car to cat up, and the driver drove

785
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Speaker 6: away and then wouldn't respond to him and literally left

786
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Speaker 6: cat on the side of the road. I mean, I

787
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 6: was personally like angry on behalf of him and this

788
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Speaker 6: guy went to Reddit and the Austin section of Reddit,

789
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Speaker 6: and he was like, I don't what to do. They

790
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 6: were like, everyone is like call the police, call the police,

791
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Speaker 6: please it. And then they were like, go on Twitter

792
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Speaker 6: and we'll flip a shit right right, and we'll yell

793
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Speaker 6: Lift until they do something. And then they did, right.

794
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Speaker 6: So this guy goes on Twitter. He goes viral on Twitter.

795
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Speaker 6: Lift sends a team of investigators to go searching around

796
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Speaker 6: every possible area to find his cat.

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Speaker 1: And then they do.

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Speaker 6: They find this cat that's covered and Fleess dehided at

799
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Speaker 6: all this stuff, but Lift sends all these employees out

800
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Speaker 6: to go find this guy's cat because of this monstrous Lifter.

801
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Speaker 6: Good that there is the magic of Twitter. Thread stuff

802
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 6: now that still goes on for now. Yes, that still

803
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Speaker 6: goes off now because Lift is still there. There's a

804
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Speaker 6: way to scream up right right in Twitter. There is

805
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Speaker 6: there is a way to basically get in the year

806
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Speaker 6: of power on Twitter. You can't really do it on threads,

807
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Speaker 6: which feels like the mall blue sky too small.

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Speaker 1: Why is threads so hard to use? Like they have

809
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Speaker 1: so much money and yet it's so hard to use.

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Speaker 6: Because all those things that has mentioned right. That was

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Speaker 6: a side effect of Twitter that wound up being the

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Speaker 6: most important part of it. There's no impetus for Facebook

813
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Speaker 6: to build a platform where people can stream at lift

814
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Speaker 6: until somebody does something, or people can create a protest

815
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Speaker 6: movement or something. That's the most important part on Twitter.

816
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Speaker 6: But no venture capitalist, no part of big money would

817
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Speaker 6: intentionally build a website like that. Now that's insane to

818
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 6: how they view power. So like they were trying to

819
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 6: make a nice little stream service on threads that kind

820
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 6: of mirrored Twitter, right, but it didn't have that sort

821
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Speaker 6: of It didn't have the same functionality. And that's on purpose.

822
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Speaker 6: That's how it gets complicated, is to build something like this.

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Speaker 1: It can't.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to come from one of

825
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Speaker 6: the big players because there is no reason for them

826
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Speaker 6: can make one.

827
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Speaker 1: Now we're going to go to the Mally confession part

828
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Speaker 1: of the interview.

829
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Speaker 5: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I come from like a lot of privilege

831
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Speaker 1: and I'm married to someone who's the venture capital has

832
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Speaker 1: focused as in education, but who does do this. And

833
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Speaker 1: I always thought that there would be like good capitalism

834
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Speaker 1: would win over bad capitalism and save the world. I'm

835
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Speaker 1: starting to think that was a little naive.

836
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Speaker 6: Look, I don't know. I'm sorry to get into that.

837
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Speaker 6: That is a I would say, literally above my pay

838
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Speaker 6: gader mine too. In this instance, it's not a great scenario, right,

839
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Speaker 6: I just thought we were smarter than this. A guy

840
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Speaker 6: bought the pipes to the news and instead of the

841
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Speaker 6: news covering it, Like, I can't believe a guy bought

842
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 6: the pipes, they just covered what his whims are. Instead

843
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 6: they covered the spectacle and the cult of personality. Maybe

844
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Speaker 6: I should have expected that co thirty what happened with

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Speaker 6: dolld chom right, But cover the pipes, Cover why he

846
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Speaker 6: was so interested in doing that, Cover how he's changing

847
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Speaker 6: the way we get information, like instead because that the

848
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Speaker 6: game is rigged in this way, if you have enough money,

849
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Speaker 6: you can just buy the news screened it.

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Speaker 1: It does seem to me though, like when you read

851
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Speaker 1: his tweets, he does not sound like someone who feels

852
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: he won. Like he feels like someone who is desperately

853
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: like selling lemonade on the street. And when you get

854
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: Linda Yakarino, the two of them, you know they're like

855
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: the you know, he is like going to Taylor Swift.

856
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: You should post on X, this is really great, you know,

857
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: like he's the richest man in the world, Like he

858
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: feels like he's like a shoe salesman. So clearly he

859
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: has some anxiety because every tweet is like, now we've

860
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Speaker 1: decentralized news. Stop reading legacy media. Only read my weird

861
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: friend who lives in Singapore and posts you know, strange memes.

862
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Speaker 1: I mean, like, do you think though, like it doesn't

863
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Speaker 1: seem from his point of view, from what I gather

864
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Speaker 1: from his information, that he feels he's winning.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, I do think you thought people would bend

866
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Speaker 6: the knee by that point, right, I think that's you know,

867
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Speaker 6: with most of these sort of fascist autocrat fantasies, the

868
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 6: idea is to crush people into submission and everyone will

869
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Speaker 6: be in the knee, and it never actually works out

870
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Speaker 6: that way.

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Speaker 4: Right.

872
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 6: You might be able to make a lot of people

873
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Speaker 6: very upset or sound people, but you never actually win

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Speaker 6: the culture war because your culture war is making people's

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Speaker 6: lives worse. Right, it's just like like the very basic

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Speaker 6: things that I like, or else we will call you slurs.

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Speaker 6: That's not really you want a good pluralistic society, right exactly.

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Speaker 6: I do think he thought he would win by now,

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Speaker 6: and it is I would say, the testament to both

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Speaker 6: the human spirit and the concept of what we are

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Speaker 6: as found free that he has not done that. But

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Speaker 6: we are in the middle of this real information war, yeah,

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Speaker 6: real operational war, and the way it was expressed by him,

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Speaker 6: his weapon was a particularly vile in months long tantrum.

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Speaker 1: The goal here was to change hearts and minds. Right,

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Speaker 1: So he clearly isn't winning the elite like you and I.

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Speaker 1: I mean that ironically obviously that whatever we work for

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Speaker 1: legacy media. But will he change hearts and minds or

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Speaker 1: is it just too soon to know?

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Speaker 6: I do think that he has, and I think that

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Speaker 6: this is a long If you talk to people with

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Speaker 6: eleven year old boys right now, yeah, it's fifty chances

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Speaker 6: that they're into Andrew Tate because that's the averag dozen, right,

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Speaker 6: and Tat is in the same world that elon It's right,

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Speaker 6: and that's not a thing that manifests until not just voters,

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Speaker 6: but in society so much later on, and having those

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Speaker 6: thoughts and beliefs is so dangerous not just to women

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Speaker 6: but to how we operate. Like culture wars don't happen

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Speaker 6: on a second by a second basis, I would say

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Speaker 6: they don't even happen on a like electoral cycle by

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Speaker 6: electoral cycle basis. I think they happen in big swaths,

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Speaker 6: and they're in waves that you can particularly tell us

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Speaker 6: they're happening while we sit here and make fun of

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Speaker 6: them and we're like, oh, you can't be winning because

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Speaker 6: he sounds so ridiculous and sounds like he's throwing a fit.

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Speaker 1: Right, he still could be winning even if we don't.

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Speaker 1: We really don't know what's happening because we really can't

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Speaker 1: trust any of the pole line.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I completely agree with that, and I don't think

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Speaker 6: anybody has appropriately called anybody under the age of thirty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, correctly in severals.

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Speaker 6: And I think that people are saying look closer to

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Speaker 6: those abortion special election votes than to look at the

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Speaker 6: actual polls. I think probably right, But we just don't know.

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Speaker 6: We won't know until next ship.

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Speaker 1: Ben Collins bringing the Nightmare Fuel, Thank you very much, Thank.

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Speaker 6: You, Molly No moment, Jesse Cannon, Molly junk Fast.

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Speaker 1: The last episode, we were laughing about the Republicans being

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Speaker 1: in disarray, but like the infighting right now, this is

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Speaker 1: like nothing in our lifetimes, right, m TV. The motion

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Speaker 1: to vacate has made the GOP cr azy, including the

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Speaker 1: facial hair festooned Chip Roy, who told Matt Gates he

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Speaker 1: could kiss his ass. I think that is a not

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Speaker 1: not suitable for cable news, but okay for podcasting. Unbelievable stuff.

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Speaker 1: Republicans are in disarray. We'll see if Kevin McCarthy survives

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Speaker 1: another day, but odds are now. Let's not forget when

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Speaker 1: people are bragging about the Republicans' accomplishments of this Congress

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Speaker 1: that they're getting laughed at. That's it for this episode

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Speaker 1: of Fast Politics. Tune in every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday

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