1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: You're listening to Seahawks stories, dicking you behind the scenes 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: with your favorite current and former Seahawks play fake prop fact, 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: go the froward. D got a man, it's Metcap. He's 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: out the touchdown Seahawks powered by Seahawks dot Com. Turbin 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: in the backfield. When Wilson, who goes out of the 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: shotgun look out here comes to Platts Rustle steps up. 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Now he's got a scramble. Now he comes to Turbin 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: midfield forty five forty damn here, signing like thirty twenty five, 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: puts his head down on a run by Turbin. He's 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: all the way down to the Chargers twenty one yard line. 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: A thirty two yard pickup. Now here's your host. Super 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: Bowl forty eight champion Robert Turbin second and four from 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: his home thirty four mcmanthrows intercepted again, it's the twopoo. 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: He's inside the twenty for fifteen but then the five 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: touchdown Seahawks. Two interceptions, two touchdowns for the Seahawks, a 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: thirty four yard return. Well put the twopoo. Welcome to 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: the NFL. Baby, what's up? What's up? Baby boy? Shop boy? 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: Robert turban a k A turbot in the building once 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: again for another beautiful episode of Seahawks Stories. I got 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: the one and only you heard it, Pick six man 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: himself loaf to Tupu, joining the building with me. How 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: you doing, man, blast Man? Thank you for having me 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: talk about that pick six right there. Linebackers don't get 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: too many of those, man. I was blessed to have 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: two of them, and I remember him very well. But 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: that one was Philly. They ran the stick concept, you know, 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: the tight end five yards out, and I just, uh, 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: you know, I pulled the trigger. Shoot the gunners, they 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: like to say. And you got to make the most 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: of the the opportunities. And I'm just lucky it was only 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: thirty four yards because I did not want to get caught. 32 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: You who you remember? Who the quarterback was? Hib? Okay? 33 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: And what about your other pick six? Um, Jimmy Clawson 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: Carolina twenty six yards left flats? Okay? All right, all right? 35 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: You know I only asked because you never know, like, 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know, he get an interception off somebody 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: who's like, you know, maybe you grew up watching or 38 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: idolized growing up, any any of those come to mind. 39 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: I tipped a couple footballs from Brett Farve. I didn't 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: he too too hard for me to catch it. I'm 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: a linebacker for a reason. Turbo, Yeah, he was a 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: He was a gun slinger for sure. Well, listen, man, 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: you had a very decorated career both in college and 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know, let's start at the collegiate level, right, 45 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: you play for Pete Carroll, who's currently you know, the 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: Seahawks coach. Now you've guys been able to we're able 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: to do some great things at USC. So just talk 48 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: about the process of choosing USC as the school you 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: wanted to go to. Uh, and then the successes you 50 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: guys were able to have. Well, I grew up in 51 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: Massachusetts and so I wasn't highly recruited US. It's not 52 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: exactly a hotbed for recruits, uh, you know, for top 53 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: one hundred. So going out of a high school, I 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: got recruited by three colleges Yukon, Rutgers, and Temple, and 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: they wanted me to play quarterback. So I didn't see 56 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: a lot of five eleven some my own quarterbacks in 57 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: the NFL. So it was kind of my first business 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: decision that I took a scholarship, a play linebacker for 59 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: the Humane Black Bears, and then upon having a successful 60 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: freshman campaign, I decided to transfer and I was supposed 61 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: to go to Oregon. They have this full scholarship lined up, 62 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: but unbeknownst to me, my dad had sent the tape 63 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: to USC and we stopped by for a visit before 64 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: taking off to Oregon. And I'll never forget the day. 65 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm in Heritage Hall. There's all the Heisman's, there's all 66 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: the all the national championship banners, and Pete Carroll walks 67 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: up and he says, if I give you this scholarship, 68 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: we come here over Oregon. And I said absolutely, and 69 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: he shook my hand, he said, congratulations, you're a Trojan. Wow. Wow. 70 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: That must have been an amazing feeling at the moment, 71 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: and at the time. You talk about all of the 72 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: national championships you were witnessing there over the course of 73 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: your visit, you we're able to win two of them 74 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and three, two thousand and four, Uh, you know, 75 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: super Bowl champion, but never one in at the collegiate level. 76 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: I mean, big deal. Just talk about you know, those 77 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: two championships, what they meant to you? When uh, just 78 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: the you know, just the overall feel of it. Yeah, no, 79 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: it was incredible, man, what we were able to do. 80 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: Uh with my my time down there with Pete in 81 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: twenty six games that I was blessed to play and 82 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: start there. We were twenty five and one. We lost 83 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: one game and triple overtime and uh, you know we 84 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: could have done it was no, that was the year 85 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: after me. Okay, that was the national championship after me, 86 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: but this was to cal h and a guy by 87 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: the name of Aaron Rodgers. You know, can people know him? 88 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, so that was our only blemish. But 89 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: it was just it was amazing. I mean, you know, 90 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: with your time here and how amazing that offense and 91 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: defense were the team. It was it's all about the team. 92 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: And so we did something special down there. And what 93 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: really meant a lot to me is every day right 94 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: outside the linebackers locker room was the national championship from 95 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four and my dad was on that team. Wow, 96 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: And so I got to pass his picture every day 97 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: and it just a little added incentive and motivation, you know, 98 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: to make him in the school proud. And so now 99 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: there's a plaque seventy four sitting there and next to 100 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: it is the two thousand and four with my picture 101 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: on it. It sounds like your dad had a plan 102 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: when he snuck that tape over there to USC while 103 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: you were visiting Oregony City. Wanted to follow in his footsteps. 104 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: Talk about your dad and and just his impact on 105 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: your life and how much you know he was an 106 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: inspiration to you. Oh man, my hero. Um. You know, 107 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: he was a fourteen year NFL veteran UM and also 108 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: my coach, so I got to learn a lot of football. 109 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: But those are some some bumpy times. You can imagine 110 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: a coach, you know, with the expectations of being a 111 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: former player, but then also your dad and so we 112 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: got into it a couple of times, but it was 113 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: some of the greatest times I ever had playing for him. 114 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: And then just you know, always talking ball with me 115 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: and telling me what the offense is really trying to 116 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: get Downe on each formation recognition. So I really I 117 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: attribute a lot of my success to not only having 118 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: that experience, but then also being down there with Pete 119 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: and all those coaches. They you know, they really teach 120 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: you the game and they're they're phenomenal teachers of the 121 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: game standing at USC just for a moment, you know, 122 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: any any kind of behind the scenes teammate, uh, you 123 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: know story that kind of sticks out to you doing 124 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: your your time there, winning championships and balling out. Um, 125 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: it was just incredible. Man, I love all. I still 126 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: talk to all my guys you know from SC and so, 127 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think very similar to you when you 128 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: win your championship here right, it's there's a bond created 129 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: after all which you go through and sacrifice that it 130 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: only gets strengthened the brotherhood when when you win the championship, 131 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: the ultimate sacrifice we all we all make. You know. 132 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 1: I saw you over the weekend and uh, you talked 133 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: about having the opportunity to run out of the tunnel 134 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: at USC again first time in twenty twenty years, two 135 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: decades from decades man, So you know, just talk about 136 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: how that what that feeling was like to be able 137 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: to do that. And they got the win against I 138 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: think it was Oregon States this week Fresno was okay, 139 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, so just talk about that feeling, what it 140 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: was like to be able to do that, you know, again, 141 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: it was incredible. Um, I left as a junior after 142 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: my junior year, so I didn't get the senior night 143 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: that most guys get, the farewell, you know, their final game, 144 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: and they know it's their final game in whatever stadium 145 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: ours the coliseum and it's such a historical place. Um, 146 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: so many great games been played there. But to run 147 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: down the tunnel just to have my kids there, because 148 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: my kids are too young. They didn't even know my 149 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: dad played football, and so thank you and so for 150 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: them getting to see their grandfather who they never met, 151 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: and and my picture on the walls, and just how 152 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: decorated and the tradition you know that USC has and holds, 153 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: and I think we're really on the cusp of doing 154 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: something great down there with Lincoln Riley and those guys. 155 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: So but the atmosphere was electric running down there, man, 156 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: I could see a look. It was like leading your 157 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: boys out there again one last time. And I hope 158 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: that all of my you know, fellow Trojans and everybody 159 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: gets to do it at their their their university, because 160 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: there's nothing like it. Man. It was. It was unbelievable. Yeah. 161 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: Well just uh, you know, my pon may not matter, 162 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: but I do have USC making the top four this year, 163 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, getting into that playoff and 164 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to compete for the national title once again. 165 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: You know, my favorite USC game was against was that 166 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: game against Texas, although in an l I thought it 167 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: was one of them, you know, I mean, arguably the 168 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: greatest college game in the history of college football. See, 169 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: being a running back, I thought you were gonna go 170 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: Fresno Reggie Bush. You know that historic game where he 171 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: had almost five hundred yards of offense by himself. Yeah, no, 172 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: he was. He was bawling when he stopped on the 173 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: sideline and kind of Yeah, I don't truly talk about 174 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: but no, that one was. That one was a classic, man, 175 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: just because of all the back and forth. But you 176 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned that you left us a junior, so curious 177 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: you know what went into the decision for you to 178 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: leave early USC and then you get drafted to Seattle. 179 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: They trade up to get you, so like like this 180 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: this demand right here, Okay, we need to get him. 181 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: So talk about that feeling as well. They took a 182 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: lot of heat for that pick. You know, they said, 183 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: I never forget sitting there on draft. They like they 184 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: take They trade up two Fords and swapped a second 185 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: to take an undersized linebacker from USC and I, you know, 186 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: that kind of helped with the chip on my shoulder, 187 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, which I've always had, not getting recruited everything, 188 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: overcoming all that adversity. But you know, yeah, it was 189 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: an unlikely jump, you know, transfer an end to leaving early. 190 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: It's you know, everybody's like, are you crazy? And I 191 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: just felt like, you know, it was time to move on. Man. 192 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: I didn't think another hundred tackles or another couple interceptions, 193 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: and Zachs was gonna propel me into that first round 194 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: where you know, all the pretty boys are, man, the 195 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: first rounders. You there's a difference between a first and 196 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: a second rounder. And so I wasn't going to run 197 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: the four four or forty that they wanted. And I 198 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, my body of work should 199 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: speak for itself. And it did. And uh, it just 200 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: takes one to fall in love with you, and the 201 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: Hawks did. And I'm grateful because man, I'd never been, 202 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, up to Washington or Seattle, and you know, 203 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: when you get here, it's just breath taking and how 204 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: much this is a football you know city. You know, 205 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: it's a lot of people don't understand until they go 206 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: experience it and go sit with the twelves at the game. 207 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: You think USC wins that national title. If you're on 208 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: the team that next season against against Texas, oh, man, 209 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you know, Vin Vince Young 210 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: was doing his thing. Man, it's the quarterback spy man. Yeah, 211 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: but you know people leave all the time. Tommy Harris, 212 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: he left Oklahoma, he was a phenomenal, like two time 213 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: consensus All American. And I still say, even though it 214 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: was lopside at fifty five nineteen, if he's at that 215 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: Oklahoma game the year before, I don't know how it 216 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: goes down because that that was a vaunt. That was 217 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: a tough front seventh they had and he was the anchor. 218 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: So um, it's fun to play in the hypotheticals. But 219 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't I plead the fifth. Well, 220 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: you come off the national title four, you get drafted 221 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: in OH five, you make the All Rookie team as 222 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: a rookie with the Seattle Seahawks. You're part of the 223 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl team as well, so you're probably thinking, you 224 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: know you're on this, You're on this high ride right now, 225 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: back to back national title, then you're in the Super Bowl. Man, 226 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: talk about that experience. I mean it was a whirlwind, man. 227 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean just the longest, you know, playing as long 228 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: as you can each each season, and you know, getting 229 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: ready for a sixteen game season plus preseason plus playoffs. 230 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: It was incredible. And luckily I just had so much 231 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: help around me, including third rounder fellow linebacker Leroy Hill, 232 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: absolute beast, so I didn't have to go it alone, 233 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: so to speak. And and I just it was one 234 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: of the most fun years of football I've ever had 235 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: because the team, everybody just loved playing football and playing 236 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: for each other. And I think that's that's how you 237 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl, just such as you and 238 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: your boys did. And um, yeah, super Bowl participant, you 239 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: can't say super Bowl champion, that's all right, man. Um. 240 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: You know, the draft experiences is a little different for everybody. 241 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: And we talked about Seattle trading up and how that 242 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: made you feel. You know, obviously there's a good side 243 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: to that because you know a team wants you, and 244 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: then you know there's a chip on the shoulder because 245 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: people are like, what, you know, why, why why are 246 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: you doing that? And did you did you think you 247 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: were going to go somewhere else. Did you know what? 248 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: What was that? Like? You know, it was wild? So 249 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: you go. Usually you go to the combine and you know, 250 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: you kind of talk to teams and even after that, 251 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: there's all these trips that you're allowed to take, right, 252 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: I didn't have one single trip, And so I'm sitting 253 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: there after the combine like, did I mess up? Like 254 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: are these draft pundits right? I'm not going to get drafted? 255 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: And uh not. So I guess they were just playing 256 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: their cards close to the vest and they didn't want to, 257 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, tip their hands, so to speak. So um, 258 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: I did have one call with the Buccaneers and the Bengals, 259 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: who also had second round picks and had a need 260 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: at linebacker. So I thought, really it was going to 261 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: be one of those two. Barrett Rude went first pick 262 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: of the second round in front of me, and then 263 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: the Bengals when we're talking to them, they said, if 264 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: he's there at forty eight, we'll take him, but we're 265 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: not going to trade up for him. And so that's 266 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: when I think Seattle got winded and they moved in. 267 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: And then since he ended up with one of my 268 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: favorite linebackers, Odell Thurman from Georgia. Man, he was a beast. Yeah, awesome, awesome. 269 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: So you played for Mike Holmgren right when you come in. 270 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: He had a little short stint with coach More yet 271 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: one year, and then your boy comes in Coach Carroll. 272 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: You know, so just talk about playing for each coach 273 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: and then obviously having the opportunity to play for your 274 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: college coach as well once he was able to roll 275 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: in from Yeah, I see, you know, Jim didn't really 276 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: get he had one year. He didn't. I don't think 277 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: he really got a fair shake to really see what 278 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: he was capable of doing. Um and uh but with 279 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: with Homegren my first five years and then uh Pete 280 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: my last year, and then I had him three in college. 281 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: So very different contrasting styles. Uh, you know, I mean 282 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: even just look at him. Mike six six, you know Pete, 283 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't know five. I'll give him five nine, five 284 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: tens um, but uh, you know, it's just you know, 285 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: Pete's very energetic. Hey, let's go. You know, and I 286 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: don't want to say raw rah. I think that you 287 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: know that discredits you know, really how how much he 288 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: helps you know, mold and and and get these guys 289 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: to play at a higher level. Um, but he is 290 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: there's something about that energy that resonates and it really 291 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: you feed off of. And then with with Mike was 292 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: very disciplinarian. And Mike, you know, I know he hated penalties, 293 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: UM and you always knew where you still with him, 294 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: and you know, you didn't want to stand on the 295 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: sideline with him if he messed up, because he would 296 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: let you have it. But it was I think three 297 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: or four years that I played with Mike, we were 298 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: number one or in the top three and penalties U 299 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: not getting penalties, so that he always said, it's hard 300 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: enough when you're doing everything right to beat another team 301 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, do not beat yourself. And 302 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: so that was that was really one of the things 303 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: that I think we really did well was a discipline 304 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: when we were playing with him. One of the great 305 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: quarterbacks of all time here in Seattle, Matt Hasselbeck, teammate 306 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: that you played with. Your dad was teammates with Matt 307 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: Hasselbeck's father back in the back in the day with 308 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: the Patriots. So you know, what was your relationship like 309 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: with Matt And uh, you know, did you ever you know, 310 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: give him some at your high school quarterback. So did 311 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: you ever try to give him some tips offense a 312 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: little how to throw that thing around? I mean, I 313 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: think I could still throw it farther to him, you know, 314 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah I said that, Matthew. But um, yeah, so I 315 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: knew the hasbecks very well growing up. Matt's a couple 316 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: of years old than me, so I competed against his 317 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: youngest brother, Nathaniel, who's a phenomenal athlete, and then Tim 318 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: was of course between them, and he went to Boston 319 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: College and played with several teams in the NFL. But yeah, man, 320 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: it was it was special, you know, that bond because 321 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: we knew each other growing up. But then when we 322 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: come to a whole different city and you've got two 323 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: kids from the Tritown area, which is Rantham Plainville in Norfolk, 324 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: and he grew up in Norfolk and I grew up 325 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: in Plainville. For to have two Trytown kids representing, you know, 326 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: um as captains on offense and defense of a team 327 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: was a pretty unbelievable experience. You played with, uh you 328 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: know some of the I guess new era kind of guys. 329 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: Well maybe not so not so new, but you know, 330 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: the guy the kJ Rights of the World, was a 331 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: rookie during your last year. The following year, Bobby Wagner 332 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: comes in, you know, uh, and there's some other young 333 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: players who trickled in as well. And you've stayed here 334 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: in Seattle, you know, and you are the loudest guy 335 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: in the suites when the Seahawks are playing, the biggest fan, 336 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: probably the biggest critic too. You know, you know you're 337 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: gonna heard me, So just talk about your relationship, you know, 338 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: as new guys. As your career kind of ended, and 339 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: obviously you know that transition can be up and down 340 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: for everybody, but just you know how you were supportive 341 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: of the new guys who continued to roll into this program. Yeah, 342 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: I mean, John and Pete have done a phenomenal job 343 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: bringing you guys such as yourself that we're just ready 344 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: to take it over and take it to a whole 345 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: new level. And you know, of course I got to 346 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: play with with Cam and Earl. They were rookies my 347 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: last year or two, and like the legion of Boom, 348 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, Scherm and all of them came just the 349 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: year after and eleven, and so just I could see 350 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: it when we were you know, when the draft classes 351 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: were rolling in, it was a different caliber of athlete 352 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: and it was kind of reminding me of the times 353 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: when I was at SC. I was like, wow, man, 354 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: you got all these top five, these these amazing football players, 355 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: and when it comes together, it's beautiful. And so I 356 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: just tried to do my best to just you know, 357 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: relay any information I could about you know, what helped me, 358 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, become better. And mine was a very cerebral game. 359 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: I wasn't gifted with the athletic prowesses some of these guys, 360 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: but um, you know so, and then I got to coach. 361 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 1: I really think that was the biggest thing in fifteen 362 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: and sixteen. Got the coach and really got to impart 363 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: some wisdom to to kJ and Bobby And not that 364 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: they really needed any they're already rolling, but you know, 365 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: Ken Norton did a phenomenal job with them, and so 366 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: I just tried to support them in any way I could. 367 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: And um, it's it's been. It's been amazing. Yeah, it 368 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: sounds like you try to get guys turned up to 369 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: kJ said at his press conference that he's chilling in 370 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: the sweet sip of tequila with Loafa man, you know 371 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: you're trying to get everybody do stuff. Uh hey man, 372 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: energies contagious baby, But yeah, that's probably I got. I 373 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: got some shout outs. I'm lucky enough to get some 374 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: shout outs, even at a Hall of Fame speech or two. 375 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: But Kj's saying that he's gonna run around the sweet 376 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: Strip at the Kiel with me. It was probably the 377 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: coolest shoutow't ever got. That's what's up, man. So what 378 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: is your fondest memory of being the Seattle Sea Huk? 379 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean? Draft days special to everybody because it's the day, 380 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: you know, kind of like little girls dream of their 381 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: wedding days, little boys dream of getting drafted. Yeah, and 382 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: that's the truth. And so that was awesome being around 383 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: all my family and having them see not just years 384 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: of my hard work but also their support come to fruition. 385 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: And then on top of it, um winning the championship here, 386 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: the first NFC championship. It was you know, it hadn't 387 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: been done. It was done in front of everybody in 388 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: the city of Seattle, and unfortunately came up a little 389 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: short in the in the Super Bowl. But yeah, that 390 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: NFC championship, I'll never forget and uh, I'm just glad 391 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: that you guys brought it home. You know, a couple 392 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: of years later we wouldn't We couldn't have done it 393 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: without the support of Big Loaf to two poo man. Um, 394 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: last question that I have for you, Um, you know, 395 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: because you talked about your style as a as a 396 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: as a linebacker, not being the most athletic, but Jimmy, 397 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: he has some legendary games, right, Uh, multiple three interception games, 398 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: you know. Uh, you know, huge sack numbers and things 399 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: like that. So just talk about I guess, just your 400 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: preparation and you know what may aide you such a 401 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: dominant linebacker in this league. It was definitely everybody around 402 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: me is what made me better. But um, playing playing 403 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: the team sport man. Loved it, Love going out there 404 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: with my brothers. But in terms of preparation, I give 405 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: a lot of credit to the guys that I had, 406 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: Nick Holt, see Rocky Seto, Ken Norton. They really, like 407 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: I say, it was an NFL organization that Pete was 408 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 1: running down there in terms of you know, knowing what 409 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: to do, you know, uh, time on the clock, position 410 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: of the field, everything, formation recognition, tendencies, I had all 411 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: that and all that prep work for two or three years. 412 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: That's why I when I transition the NFL was pretty seamless. 413 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: It looked like I had been there before, and I 414 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: felt like I had been there before, and so um, 415 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: you know, that was my edge. And then I was 416 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: just trying to relay the information as quick as I can, 417 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: because there's only what a couple of seconds before that 418 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: plays called that ball snap, and so on any shift 419 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: or motion, I already would go to the next play. Okay, 420 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: they're ninety percent run out of that, they're you know, 421 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: seventy five percent. And then that gives you the indicator 422 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: as to when you can take a shot, because knowing 423 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: when to take a shot is just as important as 424 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: taking the shot. And I think some guys can't differentiate that. 425 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: All right, one more, one more. I know I said 426 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: I had one more question, but you know, I'm talking 427 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: to a linebacker, and so it makes me think as 428 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: a running back of the other days. See, I'm still 429 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: old enough to experience the Oklahoma days, right, but young 430 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: enough to experience the transition right out of the two 431 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: of days when you know when when the rules changed. 432 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: And so I'm just I'm just curious. You know, is 433 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: there a running back that was the toughest to tackle 434 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: or that that that you know, your your bell was 435 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: rung like this was the guy that was just it 436 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: was just it was gonna be a long day with him. 437 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: It's the NFL, so you know everybody, I mean, you 438 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: didn't have to look much farther than then FC Wes 439 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: when I was there, Ed James Hall of Fame. I 440 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: believe my boy, Sean Alexander, there's a Hall of Fame. 441 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: Finally go on the rank of Honor, Stephen Jackson. I 442 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: mean they was stacked. Frank Gore Hall of Fame like that. 443 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: That was, you know, kind of the starting four. But 444 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to the best I ever faced, Now, 445 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: I always say this hands down, Fred Taylor oh Man 446 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: telling you, I don't know if you got to, you know, 447 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: really witness and play. I did. My god, he could 448 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 1: do whatever he wanted. Turbot. It's like he can outrun you. 449 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean he could juque, he could run you over. 450 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: So it's um, you know, and I'm sure I probably 451 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: have a little PTSD because it was my first start, 452 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm just trying to get guys lined 453 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: up and then I was like, oh my god, this 454 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: guy's fast too, because on the film he was just 455 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: trucking everybody, and so it was a rare combination of size, speed, 456 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: and athleticism and um, you know, if you look at 457 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: those numbers, man, he belongs in the Hall of Fame. 458 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: Freddy Taylor, love it, Love it well, Uh, Loaf, I 459 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on the show today. Man, Um, you 460 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: know I got a quick one for you, but uh, 461 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to wrap this one up man, so hey, 462 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: we'll catch you next time. I want to say thank 463 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: you to everybody who tuned into this episode. You can't 464 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: wait for another one next wait Seahawks Stories, Baby, keep 465 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: it locked.