WEBVTT - Dating as a Celebrity 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:04.560 You're listening to Jog Just Sea now with me Jojo 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:09.800 Siua an iHeartRadio podcast. Oh my god, I'm laughing at 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:14.760 this before I even start this. Oh frick me dating 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:21.800 as a celebrity. I wish there was a textbook answer. 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:26.040 I wish there was a pamphlet, a user manual, an 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:29.040 instruction sheet. Shit. If there wasn't, it was in a 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.280 different language, I would learn that language just to figure 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:36.760 out how to do this. It is one of the 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:41.960 hardest things about my job. Whenever I say, you know, 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.199 being a celebrity, or I call myself a celebrity, I 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.800 always get very strange. I mean, I don't I know 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.840 that is like what I am or or who I am, 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.240 But it's very weird to call yourself a celebrity. I 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.560 don't know why, but it's just one of those things 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.760 for me. So if I'm talking and I'm saying that 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.120 and it's weird for you to hear that, just know 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:00.720 that it's weird for me to say it too. But 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:02.600 it is what it is. So we're just gonna We're 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:06.440 gonna get past that. Anyways. One of the things about 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.440 doing and being who I am, being a super public 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:16.760 figure stating in the limelight can be very very tricky. Now, look, 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.560 I've only learned about trial and air, and there's been 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.280 a lot of trial and there as sure a been 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:27.280 a lot of air, and that is something that I 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.800 think for the last few years actually I was a 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:36.039 bit a bit naive to and a bit like, nothing's wrong, 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.160 I'm fine. But then I think in this last year 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.840 twenty twenty three, really taking the time to just be 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.960 alone and looking back and looking back at things I did, 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:48.080 mistakes I made, good things I did, it really allowed 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.000 me to be like, oh, you know what, there was 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.400 some air and that is okay. And some of the 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.560 air was on my behalf, some of the air was 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.280 on my partner's behalf. But I think being able to 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:02.360 actually realize that is a very very very massive thing. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.640 Long story short, today we are going to be deep 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:07.960 dive in talking about all of this. This is my 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:12.000 free therapy session for myself. So thank you for listening. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.079 Every single person that is hearing this right now, you 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:18.080 are my therapist for the next thirty minutes because I 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:21.120 do not have one, even though I should, I don't. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:25.000 It's okay, we're fine. That's what you're here for. Being 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:29.880 a celebrity, it is very difficult to enter the dating 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:36.680 scene just initially meeting somebody you know you first, just 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:38.840 being a human, it's hard to enter the dating scene. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.280 You go out, you might find somebody, you might not. 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.000 How do you meet somebody? Who do you work with? 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:44.680 Are these your you know what I mean? There's there's 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.040 a lot that goes into how do you actually meet somebody? 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.200 But as a person in the world, dating apps are 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.480 a thing now, and they are They make it very 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.920 very much so more convenient for sure, uh and more 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.800 I guess they make data more accessible. But the thing is, 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.880 for being a celebrity, you cannot have a dating app. Now. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.440 There is ray uh and that is some fancy one 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.079 for celebrities that you have to get approved to be in. 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.520 You got to get requested, is you referred. It's a 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.240 whole thing. But there's not that many people on it. 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.520 And so what happens is the thing with Hinge, Tinder, Bumble, 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:23.000 all of them. They see your name, So I'll put 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.200 in honestly, I'll put in Joel see what I won't 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.640 even put in jojo see because Joelle is what's on 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.560 my ID and what's on my passport and all that, 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:33.720 and I'll send in my passport, my birth certificate. I 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.520 make the joke. I'm always like shit, I'd send them 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.080 my Social Security number and I'd still get blocked. But 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.160 it is so true. They just the algorithm notices the 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.480 name and then they take it down, and you know, 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.400 then I'll email tell them what's up, and I've done 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.720 this all before. They'll say, okay, we'll get it up, 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.720 and we'll leave it up. But then again, just over time, 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:54.080 the algorithm just takes it down. And so dating apps 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:55.680 are not really a thing. So for me, I feel 0:03:55.680 --> 0:04:00.320 like I honestly meet most people, I think actually pretty 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:06.680 much everybody, just through regular social media, through Instagram, DMS, TikTok, DMS. 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:12.200 I met one person I was okay, okay, okay, wait, 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.280 let's go back. Let's go back a little bit. Because 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.080 my first like true fling was with the boy and 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.400 I know I knew him as a family friend for years, 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.920 but we didn't have like a fling until I was famous. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:27.040 But it was very normal because we had known each 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.720 other since I was like five or six. My second 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.520 fling actually ended up becoming my first boyfriend. I got 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.560 introduced to him through friends and that was kind of 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.640 It's kind of like a social media relationship in a way, 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.280 like we I like, I will never deny that I 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.719 thought he was like cute for a time, but it 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.520 was never like we were never going to truly be 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:49.760 in love, you know what I mean. Like it was 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.000 more for like videos and stuff for sure. And then 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.800 I met my first girlfriend actually on a cruise ship. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.120 That was very interesting. When I met her, I actually 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.040 we were just friends for a while. She was dating 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.400 somebody at the time. She was dating a boy actually 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.840 at the time, and we became very good friends very 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:12.240 quickly on this cruise. And what's interesting is I actually 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.640 in the beginning thought she had no idea who I 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:19.160 was because she was not acting like she did at all, 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.680 and so whatever we were, we were fighting over this 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.520 crane game. This is like three days into the cruise. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.800 We were fighting over this crane game. And she hadn't 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.240 been around me when people were coming up to me. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.200 But like I just thought she like didn't think anything 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.960 about I don't know what I thought. I mean, I 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.159 was I was young, I was fifteen, and so whatever 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.200 doesn't literally doesn't matter. Anyways, we're fighting over this like 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.920 claw machine and we're fighting over it, wrestling over it. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:44.479 She stops and she looks at me and she said, 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.640 aren't you supposed to be nice? Like, you know, because 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:53.839 obviously I have. I would like to think that I'm nice. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.640 But of course the brand, you know, hold the drama 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:00.680 kidick Caaser, everyone's superhirl, dear you am. It's very it's 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.120 very much so happy, go lucky, very positive vibes driven. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.200 And so I looked at her and I was like, oh, 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.680 so you do know who I am? And she was like, yeah, 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.600 of course I do. Everybody does, but like it just 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.520 isn't why like I wanted to become friends with you, 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:15.920 And I was like, oh that's sweet, like didn't think 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.840 much of it whatever. And so then cut to a 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.480 year later, she ended up becoming my very first girlfriend, 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.240 and so that's how we met. And then after that, 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:29.240 every other girlfriend or partner of interest, even if they 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.760 didn't become a girlfriend, has been just through social media. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.640 And that is something that is very interesting because you 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.279 can't tell who people truly are, but you think you can. 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:42.840 And it's a trap that I've fallen into a few 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.280 times now where I'm like, oh, I know exactly this 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:46.680 person has i't mean I see them every day on 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:50.760 social media, not realizing that I see thirty seconds of 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.160 their twenty four hours a day on social media. And 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.560 I'm sure that that's been the same from a partner's 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.800 to me, you know what I mean. But I have 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.159 met some actually some really incredible people through social media 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.920 that just never went anywhere, you know what I mean, 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.000 Like there's no shame in being like, hey, we don't 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.280 work out as like partners in a relationship, but we 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:11.960 can be homies, you know what I mean. And so 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.680 that's something that I'm very grateful for a lot of 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.440 my people that I was like, oh man, this person's hot, 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:21.440 let me slide into the DMS. It just it's gone nowhere. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.160 But it's become very homey, very friendly, and that's very 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.480 that's a vibe that I love. I think friends are 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:31.600 freaking awesome And now I want to dive into that's 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.760 kind of how I meet people. But now, so say 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.240 I'm with somebody, This is where it gets really tricky. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.600 So we already passed tricky stage one, right, we found somebody. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:45.960 Now we're happy. Let's enter tricky stage two. We go 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.440 out on a date. Now, when you go out on 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:49.880 a date. You know, you want it to just be 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.120 you and that person. You ditch the whole world and 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.240 you go to dinner with just them and you can 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.760 look into each other's eyes and everyone disappears and you're 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:01.360 in this beautiful moment and then all the sudd boom 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:05.800 bam boom, somebody will come up to you and say, oh, 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.800 my gosh, can I take a picture with you? And 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:13.000 that is who I am before this relationship and during 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.040 this relationship, and if this relationship ends, after this relationship, 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.280 and I'm very proud and I'm very very grateful for fans, 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.200 and I would love love to take a picture with you, 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.600 of course, but there's something to be said about that, 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:31.200 like it's so public. You are never just the two 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:32.760 of you, you know what I mean. And so I'll 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:34.520 be at dinner and that's the situation that will happen, 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.600 and you know, you snap out of that moment very quickly, 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.319 and for me, it's a very normal thing to snap 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.480 out of that moment to meet the fans to take 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.719 a picture. A lot of times it'll be kids, you know, 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.240 and so of course I want to have the best 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.040 time ever with the kid and just say, oh, how's 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.360 your dinner? You have a fun night, like, oh my gosh, 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:52.840 I do birthday of it. But then you know, spend 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:54.160 us to spend a second to talk to them. I 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.559 know if I saw Miley Cyrus, I would want to 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.000 have my moment, you know what I mean, Like I 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.640 don't want to take a picture, I don't want to 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:01.600 say and so I can get it. I can see 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.840 where people are coming from. Miley, I would care if 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.240 you're on a date. I would be very very respectful. 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.640 But I understand where people are coming from. People don't 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:14.559 even know that they're you know, coming in during a moment. 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.079 And so it's something for me that's very normalized. But 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.880 for my partner at the time, or I mean, this 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:24.800 has happened on every relationship, so for my partners, it's 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.439 very much like whoa wait a second, I thought this 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.640 was about us, you know what I mean. And so 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.719 that's something that's very hard. So I've actually found that 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:38.120 dating not in public places for me is easier, which 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.480 I saw Prince Harry said something actually about when he 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:45.480 started dating Megan, it wasn't like, oh hey, let's go 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.920 out to the movies because everyone's going to see us 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:53.439 it's like, hey, come meet my family, the Queen of 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:55.920 England and you know what I mean. And so it's like, 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.040 that's your first date is in your house, and your 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:00.480 home where's a lot of people, you know, You go 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.240 out for a long time, you have all these fun 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.079 little moments, and then you come home and then you 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.839 meet the family. But dating as a celebrity, you do 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.440 that in reverse. You don't get to be public right away. 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.320 You have to keep it private in your in your 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:18.240 confined home. So that's something that almost breaks a boundary 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.840 a little too quick, and I've found is very difficult 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.120 to deal with because you know you're letting somebody into 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.640 your whole life right away without even knowing them, and 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:39.720 that's it's tricky. It's tough. I have found. There are 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:44.760 some things that are a very very very good date. Movie. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.440 I know people say that movies suck as first dates, 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.520 but as celebrity they are so great because you can 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.079 go and you can sit in a dark theater, you 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:53.800 can inter right when the movie starts, so you can 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.439 exit right when it ends, no one knows you're there. 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:01.120 Also escape rooms, because you can book out the whole 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.679 escape room. No one will know that you're in there, 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:08.520 you're bonding, you're having fun, you're working together, you're thinking, 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.760 you're talking, you're laughing. There's a lot of good about 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.839 escape rooms, and they can be very very private. So 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.920 I feel like those for me are like my first 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.559 like go to what are we gonna do today? Let's 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.680 do this, you know what I mean. But honestly, aside 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.839 from that, like a nice car ride to the beach 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:26.599 and like, but then you get to the beach and 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.640 there's paparazzi there. You know what I mean. It's like 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.520 there's no privacy anywhere. And so I've learned that you 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.440 have to be very cautious because a lot of times, 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.800 oh my god, this one time, kid, this are you 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:40.000 ready for this one? Buckle up? So I took my 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:45.080 best friend, best friend, best friend I cannot reiterate enough, 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:49.880 best friend who is in a relationship, who I like, 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.679 I love their relationship, like, live your life, do your thing. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.319 I am her best friend. Took her to Airwon, We 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.559 go in, we have fun, we leave whatever, We're back 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.000 in the car eating food. We didn't know this, we 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:08.000 got paparazzied. Totally fine, totally normal. Paparazzi publishes this article 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:11.160 photos of us laughing. Obviously it's my best friend, Like, 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.800 we're gonna laugh, Joe, just see what on date with 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:18.480 Instagram model YadA Ya when I tell you, I looked 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.559 at it and I laughed and thought it was hilarious. 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.320 And then it was like, Joe, just see what. Being 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:28.160 so chivalrous got the door for Okay whatever, Fine, this 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.640 was like a hole, like, oh my god, they're really 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.280 running with this, right, I get back to this place 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.000 now they're getting the door in the show. Fore's part 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:37.480 is a very important part to the story, because I 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.160 get back to this place, air one that we were at. 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:44.480 It's an automatic door. It is an automatic sliding glass door. 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.400 You walk and it opens, and so that just goes 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.120 to show you that, like you never know what you're 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:55.360 reading in the press, but it is. It is interesting. Now. 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.880 The thing for me is I let people in very, 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.679 very easily, and then I get very scared as soon 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:04.000 as I let them in. I let them in, and 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.240 then I get very insecure about a lot of things. 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.800 I overthink a lot of things and I just immediately 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.760 run like that's only a me thing. And so I've 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.240 had to really lean on my friends to kind of 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.199 help me judge different people and be like is this 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.240 person good for me? Is this person bad for me? 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:24.160 And then this is something that's very interesting is I 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.480 recently had to add after they go through my friends 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.240 is like, no, we think they're a cool person. I 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:34.760 have a security team, and this is something that's very 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:41.520 strange for me, and I don't like it necessarily, I'm 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.480 not comfortable with it. But it's because of an incident 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.559 that happened that I have to do, and it's a 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.559 procedure and a thing that I have to do. And 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.320 the step that I have to go through is once 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.280 I start seriously talking to somebody, they do have to 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.760 go through a background check with my security team. And 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:02.360 that is a very very awkward conversation, especially because it 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.800 has to happen very early in the talking stage. And 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:07.959 so you know, when you're in the talking stage and 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:09.439 you like don't really know if you're talking or not, 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.240 but like you think you're talking, but you don't really know, 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:12.640 and you don't want to say anything because that might 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:16.599 make it weird. That's the phase where I have to 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:22.360 be like, hey, so can my security team talk to you? 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:26.520 Like that? Is that is it's the strangest, and there 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.760 is a very specific reason why I have to do that. 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:34.160 Something did happen to me with me and I that 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:35.960 I know that. It's a step that I had to 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:37.240 take and it is something that I have to do 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.560 to protect me so that way what happens doesn't happen 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:42.840 again and I don't end up in that situation again. 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:48.840 But it is a very very very awkward conversation to 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.800 have with a like thinking about it person. Ah ah, 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.360 But normally all things have been good. I've had to 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.040 do this with a few different people. Normally people got 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:00.760 that makes me sound so crazy. I've literally done it 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:02.840 with one person. Literally, I've done it with one let 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:04.360 me not be dramatic. I've had to do it with 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:08.080 one person. It went fine, it went smoothly. We are 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.360 good to go, like. It was very great. That person 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.560 and I never ended up doing anything, never ended up 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.800 going anywhere. Never. We still talk occasionally, but not like that, 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:18.640 not on like a cute level, just on like a 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.680 like homy level. They're in a happy relationship now, which 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:25.080 is great, very happy for them. But that conversation was 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.080 so good, but they were fine with it. They were 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:28.640 fine with it, So hopefully we were about to have 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.480 that conversation. When next they're okay with it, But damn, 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:36.560 it's just strange. Another thing about being a celebrity in 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:42.440 dating is the scheduling is very very confusing because our 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:47.040 my life is my career, and my career is my life, 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.760 you know, And so at any any any given moment, 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.200 you know, I could I could be on, you know, 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.320 working in my career, and then I could be off, 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:56.480 and then I could be on and could be off, 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.120 could be on, could be off. And it's very busy. 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.320 There's a lot of rehearsals. There's a lot of studio time. 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.600 It's a lot of you know, working time. It's a 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.480 lot of TV show filming time. There's a lot, a lot, 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.000 a lot of that. But I always say that I'm 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.880 very good for making time for what I want to 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.200 make time for. Now this does kind of transition me 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:18.120 into my double life. So I say that I am 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.200 two people. I'm not two people. I am very much 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:25.440 so one person. But there is two sides to me. Right, 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.200 there's the jojo see what that the world knows has 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:33.360 always known, sees whatever this this front, this this human 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.000 you know what I mean? Then my real name is Joel. 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:42.720 And the thing is is Joelle is also just me. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.600 It's just the version of me that's like literally the 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.160 ten minutes before I go to bed at night, that's her, 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.080 you know what I mean. But the thing is is 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:55.800 I am always both. And that's something that's been really tricky. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:17:01.040 I've been in my two serious relationships. One has liked 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:05.119 Jojo but not Joelle, and one has liked Joel but 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:09.120 not Jojo. And that is something that I find very 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:13.800 difficult to juggle because I have this talk with people that, Look, 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:17.600 the thing is is you can't just like me when 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.880 I am working or performing and then not when I'm 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.439 behind closed doors. It's very strange, just the same thing, 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:28.280 and both people are present at all times. A lot 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.320 of times, you know, I was in a relationship where 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:36.399 someone would say to me like, hey, like you're not 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.080 that right now, like like be like who you really 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.960 want to be right now and saying like be Joel 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.840 right now, don't be Jojo, And I'd be like, wait, 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.560 that's not a thing. It's not I'm not like true, 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.760 it doesn't turn off like I don't just like I'm 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.359 not a I don't. I don't switch flavors. Like what 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.720 do you? It's both, And so then I had a 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.520 deep dive into this conversation with this partner of being, like, look, 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.879 the thing is is when I'm on stage, it's Joelle's 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:06.080 like hard work that's driving that performance. It's Joelle's grit. 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:11.080 When I am chilling in my room relaxing and like 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:16.359 no one's around, it's it's still both. Jojo doesn't just 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:20.560 like go wait, my work has never left ever, And 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.399 that is something that I am very very used to 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.879 and I love and I care very very much about. 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:30.480 But when someone new comes into that that has a 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:34.560 normal life, it's very tricky to explain. Look, I am 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:39.359 always this human and that human. I'm always both. Neither 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.240 one comes or goes. It's a very confusing topic and 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.080 I wish, I wish it could make more sense, and 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.120 I wish it was easier to explain it. I wish 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.000 there was a word for it, or a definition or 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.359 a story that I could tell. But it truly is 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.920 one of those things that's like just a feeling that 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.440 like you either get it or you don't. And I'm 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.800 very lucky some very good friends in my life who 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:06.720 just understand it. And my best friends forever. Rachel. She's 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.840 been my best friend since I was twelve. She somehow 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:13.280 has always understood it and always been able to be 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:17.119 there for me in career moments, in personal moments and 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.760 know that when I'm having the high of my career, 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.480 I might be having the low of my life, but 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:25.960 somehow I can have both at the same time. And 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:27.800 then I might be having the high of my life 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:29.920 but the low of my career and I can have 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.720 both at the same time. And so that's that's something 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.120 that I'm truly looking for in a partner, somebody who 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.680 can understand that. But that is just one of those 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:40.920 things is like, look, you either get it or you don't, 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.720 and I can't teach it. I can explain it, but 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:47.280 it's one of those things that I just I don't 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.960 know really how to start that conversation until it just 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.359 like comes up. And I think I actually got scared 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.560 away from that conversation because I did have it with 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:59.000 somebody who I was very interested in. And after I 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.520 had that conversation, you know, it's a gradual process, but 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.280 it they they kind of ran away a little bit, 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.960 and that to me kind of scared me away from 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.680 that conversation because I was like, ah, shit, like I 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:11.800 just gotta let people think what they want. But then 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:13.479 at the same time, I was like, but that they 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:15.920 need to know, you know what I mean? Ah, it 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:28.480 is so crazy, So let's just go to my past. Right. Obviously, 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:32.320 I've been in some very very very public relationships, and 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:36.200 there is something that happens when I'm in these relationships 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:38.320 that I still am learning how to deal with and 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.960 learning how to navigate. So whatever, We'll post a cute video. 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.439 It's fun, it's fresh, it's fears, we're living our lives. 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:49.280 Boom bam comments section, what how do you deal with this? 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.760 You know, you have people a comparing to your last relationship, 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.679 be shading your relationship, telling people that you don't belong together, 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:59.479 telling you that you can do much better, telling your 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.520 partner that they can do much better. And it's like, WHOA, 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.560 I did not know people cared that much about my relationship. 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:10.119 But okay, and that's something that's very interesting. It's like 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:12.640 you kind of gotta kind of gotta pick your battles. 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:15.679