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Speaker 1: get to know you. And for the most part you

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Speaker 1: become lifelong friends with him. Matt Castle still buddies with

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo still, Jacoby Brisett, Wes Welker to you know,

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman to Danny Amndol what you're in a circle.

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Speaker 1: You're tied with him. It's like the mob. And I

430
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Speaker 1: don't think he gets quite enough credit for that. And

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Speaker 1: it's why that when I crushed Levian for not showing up,

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Speaker 1: and that's an embarrassment, there's no way around it. Him

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Speaker 1: not showing up to O T. A. S Is an embarrassment.

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham spending two days total in Cleveland is an embarrassment.

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Speaker 1: That's a joke. Tom Brady though, doesn't show up to camp.

436
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Speaker 1: And actually, though I've read Albert brier Head an MMQUB piece,

437
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Speaker 1: and you haven't made a good point like it would

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Speaker 1: actually throw off camp a little bit if you're not

439
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Speaker 1: gonna consistently come to them all because they kind of

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Speaker 1: have a built the way they do things in New England.

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Speaker 1: But Tom still makes an effort. Man, He's still gonna

442
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Speaker 1: known Keel Harry very well. I also think Tom smart

443
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Speaker 1: enough to realize he's gonna need this guy with cronk on.

444
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Speaker 1: But that, to me, that picture kind of sums up

445
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady nikkil Harry at his house hanging catching football's

446
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Speaker 1: nikkil Harry won't be twenty two years old till December.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady is forty two years old. That's you know,

448
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Speaker 1: I'm no math major, but a twenty plus year difference

449
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Speaker 1: and they're still grinding working together. Okay, let's uh, let's

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Speaker 1: get into the Lamar Jackson. I've seen some pretty interesting things, uh,

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Speaker 1: coming out of Ravens camp. Across my Twitter timeline over

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Speaker 1: the last week. I saw this. I think at the

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Speaker 1: end of last week that Lamar Jackson is still having

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Speaker 1: issues throwing the football. Let me let me say that again.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is still having issues throwing the football. I'd

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Speaker 1: be like, you know, I was gonna listen to Middle

457
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Speaker 1: Cops podcast, but he's having issues talking. He can't talk.

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Speaker 1: You know what. I was gonna take my wife for

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Speaker 1: anniversary to this restaurant, but the chef was having trouble

460
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Speaker 1: making food. That's pretty Nutch when you just say it

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Speaker 1: out loud. Several of his passes wobbled through the air.

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Speaker 1: I feel like my hand is a little too high

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Speaker 1: on the football and that makes the ball go out

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Speaker 1: of whack. Now, let me say this all somewhat defend

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. He's working on some stuff, right, He's trying

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Speaker 1: to clean up his mechanics. It's the off season. Not

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Speaker 1: that big of a deal. Now, Ideally, what I want

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Speaker 1: that happening, you know, going into you two when I

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Speaker 1: draft him in the first round. Probably not, but by

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Speaker 1: no means is the end of the world. But I

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Speaker 1: found this a little more interesting. Let me see if

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Speaker 1: I can pull up the tweet here that Lamar Jackson. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, he didn't know the Ravens would be implementing

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Speaker 1: quote a totally different offense end quote. There's some hype

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Speaker 1: on the Ravens. A lot of people were all in

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Speaker 1: on Lamar Jackson. Listen, I'm not I'm rooting for the kid.

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Speaker 1: He seems like an incredibly nice young man, great guy,

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Speaker 1: high character guy. I root for high character people, whether

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Speaker 1: they're in football, whether they're whatever job you're in. If

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Speaker 1: I if I find out about you, you're a good guy,

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Speaker 1: I just naturally root for you. I think most humans

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Speaker 1: kind of do that. When we find out people are

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Speaker 1: bad guys. You know, it's it's much harder to root

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Speaker 1: for unless they play for our team, or you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I don't know how you'd

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Speaker 1: root for a bad guy unless maybe in business he

487
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Speaker 1: was making you money, unless we're somehow invested. But Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: one he's mechanically trying to overhaul his game. And two

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Speaker 1: they have gone all in on this offense, trying to

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Speaker 1: build the thing around Lamar, and I think, deep down,

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Speaker 1: Lamar just because he is, you know, a competitor and

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, kind of wish as they can throw the

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Speaker 1: ball a little bit more. But don't get it twisted.

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Speaker 1: They're basically gonna run the glorified option wing T offense.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Lamar said coming into the offseason workouts. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know we would have a totally different offense. When

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Speaker 1: I got here, coach was like, yeah, we have a

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Speaker 1: totally new system. So when he showed up for the

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Speaker 1: off season, John Harbaugh says, get ready, Lamar, this bad

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Speaker 1: boy is completely different from what you were doing last year.

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Speaker 1: We have a totally new system. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: go through this and that it's getting to me a

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Speaker 1: little bit. So Lamar Jackson is getting overwhelmed with this

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Speaker 1: option offense. Now listen. I think it's telling you all

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Speaker 1: you need to know John Harbaugh, which I thought was

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Speaker 1: a little crazy that he stayed with the Ravens, given

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Speaker 1: that he has a quarterback that can't throw. He's just

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Speaker 1: putting all his chips in the table and running this

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Speaker 1: crazy option offense and they're just gonna run around Lamar.

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Speaker 1: And I think I've heard Danna Jeremiah say it before

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Speaker 1: like this, He's probably not gonna be a second contract guy.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna go all in for two or three years

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Speaker 1: and just try to win doing it this way. Well,

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Speaker 1: I got news for you. You can't win doing it

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Speaker 1: this way. It is not a sustainable way to play.

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Speaker 1: The only way you can possibly win doing it this

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Speaker 1: way is when you implement it mid season and teams

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Speaker 1: aren't ready for it. When teams have an off season.

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Speaker 1: We've seen with the San Fransco forty Niners, you can't

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Speaker 1: stifle it. The difference with Kaepernick is he was a

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Speaker 1: much better thrower and a much more explosive thrower, and

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Speaker 1: his team was just way better than Lamar Jackson. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't even close. Kaepernick also Lamar's shiftier Kaepernick was. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what his forty time was in Nevada. I

525
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Speaker 1: honestly don't care, because his play speed was incredible. In

526
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Speaker 1: his peak, he could fly, but he also just had

527
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Speaker 1: an absolute hose and he was hit or mit accuracy wise,

528
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Speaker 1: but when he was on you, you were done because

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Speaker 1: he threw like a Brett Farve rope. And when the

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Speaker 1: when the forty Niners, the opposite of what they're doing

531
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Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson, tried to spread the offense out, it

532
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: crippled the offense. John Harbaugh, who kind of probably took

533
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Speaker 1: notes from his brother, realized, we're not even gonna mess

534
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Speaker 1: with that. We're going to all in tom Osborne, Nebraska

535
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Speaker 1: nineteen six. With Lamar Jackson, I just don't see two

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Speaker 1: things how it's possible to sustain winning that way unless

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Speaker 1: you have the best defense. In the late they just

538
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Speaker 1: lost a bunch of defensive players. And you can light

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Speaker 1: people up with your quarterback running. Well, here's the problem

540
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: lightening people up with your quarterback running. You don't want

541
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Speaker 1: your quarterback to consistently run, He'll get killed. Lamar Jackson

542
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: doesn't wait two and got Jerome bettis, you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: him keep these options plays, He's gonna get destroyed. Even

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Speaker 1: Kaepernick three or four years in, his body broke down.

545
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Speaker 1: He had a bad finger, messed up, his thumb, had

546
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Speaker 1: some knee issues, like he started getting hit and Kaepernick

547
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: didn't even take that big hits. Lamar Jackson's already taken

548
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: got molly walked a few times as a rookie. What's

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00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: gonna happen when they go all in on this offense?

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Speaker 1: I said from the jump I would not have drafted

551
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Speaker 1: him mainly because I did not see his ability to pass.

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Speaker 1: You know what, the Ravens saying, You know what, Middlecoff,

553
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Speaker 1: we agree with you. We don't think the kids can pass.

554
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Speaker 1: So you know what, we're not gonna ask him to pass.

555
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Speaker 1: We're just gonna run this option offense. And even Lamars like,

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Speaker 1: what the hell are we doing? This is kind of crazy? Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's no team that I have less faith in to

558
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Speaker 1: make the playoffs now because they're gonna be just so different.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna win some games. Hard By has a culture

560
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Speaker 1: there of toughness. The defense, regardless that they siphoned through players,

561
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Speaker 1: is always solid. But here's the problem. If this offense

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Speaker 1: is just not working through four or five, six games,

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Speaker 1: let's say they start kind of slow or two and

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Speaker 1: three or you know, three and five, John Harbaugh does

565
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: not have the expertise or know anything about offense to

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Speaker 1: help them out. For as great as hard By is,

567
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Speaker 1: and I think he's a phenomenal leader. He's good with

568
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Speaker 1: young players. Uh, he just his team is typically ready

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Speaker 1: to play in big games. He's obviously be Belichick several

570
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Speaker 1: times to won a Super Bowl. But when when stuff

571
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Speaker 1: gets derailed and goes off the beaten path offensively, there's

572
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Speaker 1: nothing he can do. It's why they've had so many

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Speaker 1: issues over his tenure on offense. He's a he's a

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Speaker 1: fish out of water when it comes to offense. I

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Speaker 1: think he can motivate because defense is all about toughness

576
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Speaker 1: and he knows special teams, but when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the intricacies of offense, and especially quarterback play. He brings

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Speaker 1: nothing to the table. Nothing. So I was already down

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Speaker 1: on the Ravens because I wasn't that high on Lamar Jackson. Again,

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Speaker 1: nothing personal, just don't like him as a player. I'm

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Speaker 1: out on the Ravens. I think they could be in

582
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Speaker 1: just for one of those like six and ten seasons.

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Speaker 1: That goes like, what the hell was that? Especially in

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Speaker 1: that division. You know, the Browns are gonna be a

585
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Speaker 1: lot better, The Steelers are gonna be out for blood.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Bengals, you could argue to have better players. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know much their code. First year coach, you

588
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: got Andy Dalton, A J. Green. Some of these guys

589
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Speaker 1: come back from injuries. Is there a chance that the

590
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Speaker 1: Ravens when we look up in the dust, settles like

591
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Speaker 1: January one? They finished last place in the FC now

592
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Speaker 1: and we're talking about this Lamar Jackson experiment was a disaster.

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Speaker 1: That's why he said that the people in the media

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Speaker 1: did him such a disservice, acting like he was some

595
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Speaker 1: superstar player. You can't be a superstar quarterback if you

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Speaker 1: can't throw. And he literally is working on throwing right now.

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Speaker 1: Wobbly balls now, you can throw Peyton Manning through a

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Speaker 1: wobbly ball. It was just accurately placed into the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver's hands. Lamar Jackson's wobbly balls end up in the

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Speaker 1: in the training table, on the sideline. So I'm out

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Speaker 1: on the Ravens. I get it's May. They don't have

602
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Speaker 1: to play a game for months, but this is not

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Speaker 1: a good sign. Hardballs waving up the white flag. They're

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Speaker 1: going tom Osbourne mid nineties Nebraska Cornhuskers. Get ready for

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Speaker 1: that offense. I got news for you. That offense does

606
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Speaker 1: not work on Sundays. You could argue how that offense

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Speaker 1: doesn't even work on Saturdays anymore, but I'll promise you

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Speaker 1: it doesn't work on Sunday's. Ravens get ready. This could

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Speaker 1: be an ugly, ugly season. Appreciate everyone listening. Again. I

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Speaker 1: need you for those Middlecoff mail bags d MS wide

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Speaker 1: open at John Middlecop on Instagram. Slide right in and

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Speaker 1: I'll answer your questions. Come on, slide right in, John Middlecop,

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Speaker 1: answer the questions. See you later this week. Three and

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Speaker 1: out pod. Thanks for listening, God speed, audios, peace, See

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Speaker 1: you m