1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Very Show is on the air. They got a name 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: for people like you, Hi. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: That name is called recidivism, repeat on fender. 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: Not a pretty name, is it high? No, sir, that's 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: one bonehead name. But that ain't me anymore. 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 3: You're not just telling us what we want to hear, No, sir, 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 3: no way, because we just want to hear the truth. 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: Well, then I guess I am telling you what you 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: want to hear. Boy, didn't we just tell you not 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: to do that? 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, Okay, then we cannot keep our promises on Medicare. 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 4: We simply must make the cuts some waste, fraud and 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 4: abuse in Medicare so that the benefits and the premiums 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 4: are untouched. We owe it to our seniors, We owe 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 4: it to our country. 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 5: It is no question that there is an enormous amount 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 5: of waste and fraud and abuse in this government. There 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 5: is no question to my mind that Congress has not 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 5: been vigilant enough in rooting out that waste and fraud 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 5: to the tune of billions and billions of dollars. I 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 5: would simply say that, while it is absolutely appropriate to 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 5: condemn the Congress. It is also important to note that 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 5: we have an administration in this city, in Washington, d DC, 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 5: and the function of an administration is to administer them 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 5: and that means that when there is waste and fraud, 27 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 5: you have an administration who should also be on top 28 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 5: of that situation. 29 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: If we're going to eliminate the waste, broad and abuse 30 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: in Medicare, it does mean we're going to cut some 31 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: of that out. And when I hear my friend Dave 32 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: Camp say you cannot cut money out of Medicare, well, 33 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: we don't want to cut the good stuff that you 34 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: point out one third of Medicare doesn't go to patient care. 35 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: You can't just get up there and say we don't 36 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: want to cut anything out of Medicare. We want to 37 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: cut the bad stuff and keep the good stuff. 38 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: Is all. 39 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 6: Money you do show let you have say that's you me. 40 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 7: Because our thought lorn show you. 41 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 8: That. I spent the entirety of our morning show today, 42 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 8: a three hour program talking about the US Senate race 43 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 8: in the state of Texas, talking about the primary we 44 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 8: had two days ago, talking about the swamp's attempt to 45 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 8: replace the will of the people of Texas with John 46 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 8: Cornyn their swamp creature, talking about the deal they are cutting, 47 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 8: and by John Thune's own own words, the pressure they're 48 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 8: putting on Donald Trump, have been putting on Donald Trump 49 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 8: to endorse John Cornyn over Ken Paxton, and how this 50 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 8: is a terrible thing for Texas voters. Now, I'm not 51 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 8: going to go through all of that again, I would 52 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 8: encourage you, if you're interested to learn more, to go 53 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 8: listen to the podcast wherever you get your podcasts. It's 54 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 8: a three hour podcast from this morning, but I laid 55 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 8: it out as clearly as I possibly could. I'm going 56 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 8: to give you a shorter version today or this evening. 57 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 8: I'm going to give you a shorter version of that 58 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 8: because I think this is very, very important and it 59 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 8: goes like this. I'll take a couple of segments, but 60 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 8: I'm not going to do the entirety of the show 61 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 8: on it because we have people who listen to all 62 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 8: five hours. At some point. I'm repeating myself terribly, but 63 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 8: here goes. So the theory goes after our primary in 64 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 8: Texas on Tuesday, where John Cornyn, the four time senator 65 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 8: who is despised by the base, who he has called radicals. 66 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 8: Imagine that imagine calling Trump voters radicals, because that's what 67 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 8: he's talking about. That's why he wanted to stab Trump 68 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 8: in the back in twenty twenty four. That's why he 69 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 8: said Trump shouldn't run in twenty twenty four. There is 70 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 8: a battle royale going on. Make sure you understand this. 71 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 8: There is a battle royale going on between the swamp 72 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 8: and Trump voters Tea Party America. First, the problem is 73 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 8: you're just going about your business, running your machine shop, 74 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 8: driving a truck, being a cop, being retired, being a homemaker, 75 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 8: whatever it is you do. The swamp has professional people 76 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 8: all day, every day and a big bank account, and 77 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 8: they are engaged in warfare against you day in and 78 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 8: day out to manipulate you into doing what you would 79 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 8: not already naturally do. If you would, they wouldn't need 80 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 8: a job, they wouldn't need to be hired. They're very 81 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 8: good at what they do. So we start with his 82 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 8: idea that the President tweeted yesterday or put on truth 83 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 8: social that we need to knock it off and call 84 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 8: off the runoff in Texas. We don't need a runoff. 85 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 8: He'll just pick the nominee because even though the Democrat 86 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 8: in the in November James Tallerrico, even though he's very weak. 87 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 8: We need to get it right and we need to 88 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 8: have a perfect campaign. Okay, well that's salesmanship. 89 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: That's Trump. We know that that's what he does. 90 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 8: What he's trying to say there is We could mess 91 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 8: around and lose the US Senate seat in Texas if 92 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 8: we're not careful. Because Taal Rico is a good candidate. 93 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 8: He is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He's very dangerous. 94 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 8: He can quote the Bible, and he's evil. He is 95 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 8: Bamdani in New York. He is Gavin in California. He's 96 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 8: better than Beto was in Texas. He's Beto Jesus we 97 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 8: call it. So in order to get that right, we 98 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 8: need to not spend the next ten weeks, according to 99 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 8: the president, campaigning. So I'm going to endorse somebody and 100 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 8: I want the other person to drop out. And so 101 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 8: a lot of people tell me that seems reasonable. How 102 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 8: does that work? So the president will pick our nominee. 103 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 8: Why shouldn't we get to vote? Two years ago, when 104 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 8: they smothered Joe Biden and put Kamala Harris in as 105 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 8: the nominee, we ridicule the fact that the party doesn't 106 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 8: care about their voters. The party pooh bahs picked their nominee. 107 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 8: That's why her book is called one hundred and seven 108 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 8: Days because they picked her one hundred and seven days out. 109 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: Now we're going to start doing that. 110 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 8: And by the way, Trump doesn't even want Corn and 111 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 8: he wants Paxton. But the pressure is coming in from 112 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 8: the Senate. Well what are they pressuring him with? This 113 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 8: is important to. 114 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 9: Note twenty ten, when the Tea Party movement really kicked up, 115 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 9: Barack Obama was president and. 116 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 8: We were extremely frustrated. So we didn't organize in order 117 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 8: to defeat Obama. Weized in order to defeat the Republicans 118 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 8: who were rolling over and letting Obama have his way. 119 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 8: The Tea Party movement was not a reaction to Obama 120 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 8: people think it was. It was a reaction to the 121 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 8: reaction to Obama. In two thousand and eight, John McCain 122 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 8: ran for president. It was a very weak field of 123 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 8: Republicans and he was kind of the last man standing. 124 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 8: He wasn't a good candidate, and the closest he came 125 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 8: in that election was a Friday morning, as I recall, 126 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 8: when they unveiled a very attractive governor of Alaska named 127 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 8: Sarah Palin. Now a lot of people since then have 128 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 8: changed their opinion in Sarah Palin. But that day, this 129 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 8: very very attractive former miss Idaho was a soccer mom, 130 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 8: mama bear tough. It tapped into a whole segment of 131 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 8: the populace that had never really been connected. As the 132 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 8: young people say, they felt seen the suburban moms who 133 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 8: were protective of their kids and will scratch your eyes 134 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 8: out over them, felt like, finally, somebody like us that'll 135 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 8: go up there and fix things. And so McCain resented 136 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 8: it from the beginning because all of a sudden, McCain 137 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 8: is always McCain had always wanted to be the guy, 138 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 8: and he was an ever the guy, and so he 139 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 8: had waited around. He was dismissed by Bush in two thousand, 140 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 8: he'd had the Keating scandal. 141 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: He'd hung around long enough. 142 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 8: Was very arrogant, much like John Cornan, very arrogant, he's 143 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 8: smarter than the people. 144 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: But finally he gets his shot in two. 145 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 8: Thousand and eight, and he's a nominee and he basically 146 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 8: just rolls over and lets Obama win because deep down 147 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 8: he kind of felt like, well, you know, we kind 148 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 8: of do need to have a black president, and I 149 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 8: don't want to be called a racist. And I'm still 150 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 8: in the Senate, so I can always go back to 151 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:38,239 Speaker 8: the Senate and he did. And there was a resentment 152 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 8: among people that Obama was transforming our nation for the 153 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 8: worst and the Republicans were not standing up to it. 154 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 8: The Republicans were self dealing, and the only way we 155 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 8: were going to fix this was not just to defeat 156 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 8: Democrats at the ballot box. Hell, we'd had George Bush 157 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 8: as president for eight years from two thousand and two thousand. 158 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: And eight or one toh nine. How are you want 159 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: to calculate that? 160 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 8: But there was the understanding that we can't just support 161 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 8: Republicans against Democrats. We have to support our Republicans against 162 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 8: the uniparty Republicans. And that's when that took off, and 163 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 8: it got heated, and we scared the hell out of 164 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 8: the establishment. 165 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: And nobody knew where this thing came from. 166 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 8: There was no titular head there was no organizational chapter, 167 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 8: there was no headquarters, there were no lobbyists. This was grassroots, 168 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 8: ground up and it was exciting, but as always happens, 169 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 8: there were people who saw an opportunity to make a 170 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 8: lot of money. And some of them even started with 171 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 8: the best of intentions, and they declared themselves the head 172 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 8: of this or that tea party or the national tea Party, 173 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 8: or the founder or the spokesman or the guy who 174 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 8: will start selling things to them, and we'll start mobilizing them, 175 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 8: and we'll start selling endorsements, and we'll start blessing this person, 176 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 8: and we'll start getting paid to be consultants as to 177 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 8: how to win the tea party. 178 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: And by the end of. 179 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 8: Twenty twelve, the entity loosely known as self described tea 180 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 8: Party voters was for all intents and purposes, disbanded by neglect. 181 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 8: But during that time, the voice of Donald Trump was 182 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 8: cutting through. He was saying things that were getting people's attention, 183 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 8: and there was the understanding of a kind of a 184 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 8: reform minded electorate that maybe the answer to our problems 185 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 8: doesn't come from within the Republican ranks. Maybe the old 186 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 8: days of the guy who comes out and runs as 187 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 8: a state rep and then a state Senator and then 188 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 8: a congressman. Maybe we need some people from outside of 189 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 8: all that. And so that's the ground swell that became 190 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 8: Donald Trump. That and his incredible magnetism and charisma, and 191 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 8: his understanding of showmanship, and his ability to communicate to 192 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 8: people in terms they understood. What the media said was 193 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 8: not presidential because it wasn't like any other president was 194 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 8: very connectable, accessible to voters. So Trump Trump rolls through 195 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 8: those primaries. In twenty sixteen, gets elected, tries to cut 196 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 8: a deal with the swamp. 197 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: But what do they do. 198 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 8: They stab him in the back. Twenty twenty, they steal 199 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 8: the election from him. Twenty twenty four, he comes back, 200 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 8: this time with a vengeance. This time he's not cutting 201 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 8: deals with other Republicans. This time he understands those people 202 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 8: are the problem before he could be a John Cornyn, 203 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 8: the senior senator from Texas, had a press conference and 204 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 8: told everyone there on the record, Trump is past his prime. 205 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 8: It's time for the country to. 206 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: Move past him. 207 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 8: This is the guy who had said we don't need 208 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 8: a border wall. Trump doesn't know what he's doing. This 209 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 8: is a guy who's in favor of red flag laws. 210 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 8: This is a guy who worked to keep Trump from 211 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 8: being president very recently. This is a guy who is 212 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 8: part of the cabal that Trump ran against. And this 213 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 8: is a vote who our Senator will be for the 214 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 8: people of the state of Texas. Enter all that into evidence, 215 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 8: and then you find out that John Thune, by his 216 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 8: own admission, has been pressuring President Trump to vote for 217 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 8: John Cornyn. I mean to endorse John Cornyn and get 218 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 8: Ken Paxton, who's the people's candidate, as Paul Wall said, 219 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 8: a people's champ, a's Paul Wall to people's chance. Well 220 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 8: you got Ken Paxton is the people's candidate. And Trump 221 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 8: loves Paxton and does not love Corning. But wait, what 222 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 8: pressure can this Senate majority leader exert upon this president? Hey, Donald, 223 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 8: you gotta endorse our guy. Come on, you think that's 224 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 8: gonna happen? What pressure? What could he do to make 225 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 8: Trump do that which Trump doesn't want to do? Because 226 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 8: if Trump already wanted to do it, you don't have 227 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 8: to pressure. Is it withhold support for the Save Act? 228 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 8: If so, then so be it. If we're going to 229 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 8: cut deals to get what we want from our own people, 230 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 8: that's negotiating with terrorists. Oh but Michael, it'll be worth it, 231 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 8: so we'll have election integrity so that we could vote 232 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 8: for candidates we didn't choose. 233 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: What baby? Right now? You walk sooned into the Michael Berry. 234 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: So keep it lock right here. 235 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: More truth on the way, more honest to beings coming 236 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: at you right here, only on the Michael Berry. 237 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: So imagine this for money. 238 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 8: Imagine understanding that the Save Act, the Act that's going 239 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 8: to bring integrity to our voting system. We understand that 240 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 8: there is voting fraud in this country, and we understand 241 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 8: we have one shot at fixing this. We have Republicans 242 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 8: in the House, Republican majority in the Senate, and a 243 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 8: president in the White House that's willing to push this 244 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 8: thing forward. If we don't do this and we don't 245 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 8: have the House, the Senate, House, or the Senate this November, 246 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 8: then we won't get it passed, and we'll never have 247 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 8: the integrity in the political process. We'll never have fair 248 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 8: votes again to be able to take back those houses, 249 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 8: the House in the Senate. So at that point we 250 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 8: have fallen to corruption. And everyone understands this. So imagine 251 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 8: everyone understanding this, and John Thune and the Senate Republicans saying, yeah, 252 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 8: but we're not going to pass it. But it's your 253 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 8: signature legislation. It's the one thing your voters want more 254 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 8: than anything else. You can't get this many people, by 255 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 8: the way, not just your voters. This is the most 256 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 8: popular thing you could possibly do. This is way more 257 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 8: popular than supporting bombing Iran. This is way more popular 258 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 8: than anything else out there. Free, fair, secure elections. In 259 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 8: every poll, it polls better than anything else. Here's ice cream, 260 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 8: it polls better than that. Here's good smoke, brisket ends 261 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 8: polls better than that. 262 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: Here is set. 263 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 8: No, it doesn't pull better than that. It pulls better 264 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 8: than anything else. 265 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: It's pulled. 266 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 8: So surely you're for it, right Uh uh No, we're not. 267 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 8: We're holding it up. We're not going to do it 268 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 8: unless the President keeps one of our swamp members in 269 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 8: the Senate. Oh so, wait a minute, it's not the 270 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 8: Democrats holding it up. 271 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: It's you. 272 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 8: The one bill your voters want more than anything else. 273 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 8: You can pass it tomorrow, but you're not going to 274 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 8: pass it tomorrow unless the President does what you want. 275 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 8: So if Cornyon didn't get the Trump endorsement, you wouldn't 276 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 8: pass the Election Integrity Bill. 277 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: But you told us. 278 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 8: It's critically important to protect our democratic republic that this 279 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 8: bill passed. The President has called it the most important 280 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 8: piece of legislation this year. If not in a decade, 281 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 8: and you're saying, yeah, we're not going to pass it 282 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 8: unless the member of our club, the same people that 283 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 8: own us, own him. He's that important to us. He's 284 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 8: that important that when he wanted to be Senate Majority Leader, 285 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 8: y'all wouldn't let him. He's bought and paid for. You 286 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 8: think you think Ken Paxton would be that bad because 287 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 8: Ken paxon Is is heavily supported within our state. Why 288 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 8: do you need to get involved to help your guy. 289 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 8: You don't even live in Texas. Have you ever even 290 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 8: been to Texas other than to go raise money then 291 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 8: run back to DC. But you're telling me that you're 292 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 8: willing to sacrifice the signature piece of legislation to ensure 293 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 8: elections for all of America unless you get your way. 294 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 8: This is why you don't negotiate with terrorists. When you 295 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 8: give terrorists what they want, you encourage more copycatters. That's 296 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 8: what this is about. When you reward this sort of stuff, 297 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 8: you can call it compromise, you can call it pragmatism, 298 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 8: you can call it whatever you want. When you reward 299 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 8: people like this. You know, a friend of mine had 300 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 8: a company that was getting sued. They had drivers out 301 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 8: on the roads. They had service providers to people's homes, 302 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 8: and any time there was any excuse to get sued, 303 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 8: somebody find a lawsuit and they would sue my friend's company. 304 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 8: And when he took the company over, the previous CEO 305 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 8: would settle every deal. So they'd say, you know, they'd 306 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 8: ask for ten million dollars and settle it for one 307 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 8: hundred grand, and the plant's attorney would get forty thousand 308 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 8: and the client would get forty it would get sixty 309 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 8: percent of that, So sixty thousand going down the road. 310 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 8: And they were getting sued once a week, constant lawsuits. 311 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 8: So my friend took over. He said, we're not settling 312 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 8: any cases. We're not letting the insurance companies settle any cases. 313 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 8: We're going to fight every case. These are fraudulent cases, 314 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 8: they're frivolous, and we're going to fight them. And the 315 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 8: reason is a planet's attorney takes the case for in 316 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 8: the state of Texas, no more than forty percent of 317 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 8: the total take. They can get up to forty percent. 318 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 8: They negotiate that with the client and they usually front 319 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 8: the expenses. 320 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: So what they want to do is file. 321 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 8: Lawsuits and get a settlement. 322 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: So here's the letter. 323 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 8: Hey, we're going to sue you for you can make 324 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 8: up any number and sue you for two hundred million dollars. 325 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 8: And you call back and go, all right, howbout we 326 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 8: give you one hundred thousand dollars today. All you've done 327 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 8: is write a letter. You got five minutes invested in 328 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 8: this thing. Okay, So they make forty grand, they give 329 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 8: sixty grand to their client onto the next one. It's 330 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 8: good money if you can get it, but you got 331 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 8: to get the settlements. So when the person, when they 332 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 8: defendant says you want how much? Yeah, you ain't getting that, 333 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 8: sue us, take us to court. Start spending your own money, 334 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 8: Go get your experts, get your associates involved, start billing hours. 335 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 8: Except the planet's attorney can't build a client. He just 336 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 8: gets to share a commission contingency on the total take. 337 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 8: So what happened was the planet's attorneys would say, oh, 338 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 8: you're going to trial, but we'll settle with you. No, 339 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 8: we don't want to settle. So my friend said, we 340 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 8: don't want to settle, take us to trial. We want 341 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 8: to take this to trial. Well, well, let you settle 342 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 8: for one hundred thousand, but you asked for how many 343 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 8: million dollars? Yeah, we're feeling gracious. No, you're not getting 344 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 8: a penny. I'll drag this thing out for years. How 345 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 8: about it if we settle for fifty thousand, not one penny, 346 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 8: drag it out for years? 347 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: How about it? 348 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 8: Not one penny. The lawyers began dropping the lawsuits because 349 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 8: they were frivolous. They were ridiculous. It's not to say 350 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 8: every lawsuit is frivolous, but these were. Within one year 351 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 8: of this, the lawsuits magically stopped. You See, when you 352 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 8: compromise with evil people who are engaged in evil deeds, 353 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 8: you incentivize more evil deeds. But Michael, you got to 354 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 8: are the bad thing will happen. We won't pass the 355 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 8: Save Act. So maybe you don't pass the Save Act, 356 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 8: and maybe you tell every Republican who didn't pass the 357 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 8: Save Act, which they told you was so important, that 358 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 8: you're coming after them too. It's not just corning. See, 359 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 8: at some point you have to decide if they're going 360 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 8: to control you or you're going to control them. 361 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: If you're going to blink. 362 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 8: Every time this happens, if you're going to blink, if 363 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 8: if we play chicken and you always get scared, you 364 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,959 Speaker 8: will always lose. This is a very important time in 365 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 8: this country's span as to whether John Thune and the 366 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 8: swamp is going to pick the Senator from Texas or 367 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 8: whether the voters are we don't want John Corny. 368 00:24:54,280 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: You are listening to Michael Berry's show, Well, it's. 369 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 8: A treat to be joined by a book author who 370 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 8: happens to be a friend of mine. You probably don't 371 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 8: know him as a book author. You probably know him 372 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 8: as one half of Clay and Buck. From in Houston, 373 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 8: Where From from whence? I broadcasts eleven to two, East 374 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 8: Coast noon to three, and of course West Coast nine 375 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 8: a to noon. He had the unenviable position of coming 376 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 8: after Rush Limbaugh after his untimely passing. But I think 377 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 8: they've done a very good job. They don't try to 378 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 8: be Rush Limbaugh. They're Clay and Buck. And it's taken 379 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 8: a few years, but I think people are really kind 380 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 8: of getting the way their show works. It's different, but 381 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 8: it's good. 382 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,239 Speaker 1: I enjoy it. 383 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 8: I only usually get to hear the third hour, if 384 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 8: at all, because I'm in studio, but sometimes I'll run 385 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 8: and drive somewhere. I got to be on the show 386 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 8: with them earlier this week, which was a treat. But 387 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 8: I've gotten to know these two guys off air, and 388 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 8: I have to tell you their first class dudes. They're 389 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 8: good human beings and they've become friends, and along with 390 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 8: Jesse Kelly, the four of us have conversations and they're 391 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 8: relatable and accessible, but they're whip smart and their show 392 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 8: does extraordinarily well across the country in ratings and in influence. So, 393 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 8: without further Adie buck Sexton is our guest. Here's a 394 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 8: new book out called Manufacturing Delusion, How the Left uses brainwashing, 395 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 8: indoctrination and propaganda against you. Not really light stuff, but 396 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 8: I have to tell you I was very interested reading it. 397 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 8: I have to say, Buck, I'm not sure what this 398 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 8: says about my opinion of you. It's a very interesting read. 399 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 8: I don't think I expected it to be so interesting. 400 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 8: I watched a movie. I don't know if you ever 401 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 8: watched this movie. It has Gene Hackman in it, and 402 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 8: it's the Stasi in East Germany and their eavesdropping on 403 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 8: this guy. 404 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: And it's very dark, but it's really good. 405 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 3: You're talking about the lives of others, the lives of others. 406 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: Yes, of course, you would know that a lot of others. 407 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 3: Is a fantastic movie das Levin, that's the original German. 408 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 8: I expected it to be kind of like that, real 409 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 8: slow moving and dark. 410 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: But this is a really, really good read. 411 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 8: What I'd like to do is actually just dive in 412 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 8: and kind of go through some of the book. 413 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: I encourage you to buy it. 414 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 8: It's called Manufacturing Delusion by Buck Sexton, and he uses 415 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 8: his CIA background as an analyst with NYPD Intelligence Division 416 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 8: and as a CIA officer to really go in and 417 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 8: and go through a lot of what's happening to us. 418 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 8: He uses references to COVID a lot, he uses references 419 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 8: to Stalinist Russia. He uses references to a guy named 420 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 8: Lou who're going to learn about in a moment, and 421 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 8: uh and something called killing the Mind. We'll get all 422 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 8: we'll get into all of that. But I wanted to 423 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 8: fast forward page two oh six. There was something I 424 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 8: found very interesting. I'll just read it. The framework of intersectionality, 425 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 8: developed by critical race theorist Kimberley Crenshaw, views overlapping social 426 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 8: identities such as whiteness and maleness as force multipliers in 427 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 8: situations of privilege and oppression. If you are white, able bodied, heterosexual, 428 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 8: cis gender, male, Christian, middle or owning class, middle aged, 429 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 8: or English speaking, you are privileged. And it goes through 430 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 8: all that. But here's the part I wanted to get 431 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 8: to them and ask you to comment about. Conversely, if 432 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 8: you are a black, handicapped, queer, female Muslim, the intersection 433 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 8: of these traits intensifies your oppression in a white supremacist culture. Intersectionality, 434 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 8: in the opinion of the white, gay male Catholic writer 435 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 8: Andrew Sullivan, quote is operating, in Orwell's words, as a 436 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 8: smelly little orthodoxy, and it manifests itself. It seems to 437 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 8: me almost as a religion. This is the explanation of 438 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 8: almost everything in American politics today, gelled down into this 439 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 8: one little paragraph. 440 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: Buck Sexton, Thank you, sir, and thank you for the 441 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: kind introduction. And I would just say, before we dive 442 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: into some of the meat of this conversation which you 443 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: just teed up for us, I'm very gratified. The book 444 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: in its opening week hit number four in the New 445 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: York Times bestseller list, So for a first time author, 446 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: I think that's a pretty. 447 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: Solid surprising and people will read it. They're going to 448 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: love it. 449 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 9: Thank you. 450 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 6: Well. 451 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: This has been the main thing I've gotten from people 452 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: is because look, you understand this, right, and people expect 453 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: you and me and those of our to be entertaining 454 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: and engaging radio hosts. But a lot of books put 455 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: out by people in the conservative commentary world, they're edge 456 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: of the commentary world in general, are first of. 457 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: All written by other people. Mean, they didn't write the book. 458 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: I wrote this book. I wrote every word of this book. 459 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: And they tend to follow up pretty straightforward. You know, 460 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 3: Here's how we Win Back America like some version of 461 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: Here's how we Win Back in America. 462 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: This book was something. 463 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: That I came up with because I thought it was 464 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 3: really important and it was really bothering me, right, It 465 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: was something that I was really struggling with, and it 466 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: was how do people go crazy who otherwise seem normal? 467 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: And not just in crazy countries or societies, although there's 468 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: certainly a. 469 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 6: Lot of that. 470 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: It happens here, Maybe it happens temporarily, maybe it happens 471 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: to a few million instead of all three. 472 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: Hundred and fifty million of us. 473 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 3: But there's a process, and there are people, there are 474 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 3: institutions apparatusy that abuse those processes. 475 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 1: I also call them tactics. 476 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 3: Right things to do to coerce people's minds, to control 477 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 3: people's thought processes to the point where you can get 478 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 3: them to believe crazy things and act in crazy ways. 479 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: That's the underlying thesis. Now a lot of this comes 480 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,479 Speaker 3: out of COVID. It's not a COVID book at all. 481 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 3: You know, there's some references to COVID, but it's about 482 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 3: far more than that. But in the aftermath of COVID, 483 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: it was a hold on a second. You know, I 484 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: had this moment where I said, hold on a minute, 485 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: we just went through a mass hysteria, a mass psychological 486 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 3: breakdown in this country. That sure, we made it through, 487 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 3: and yes, people want to just forget about it. But 488 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: had things been worse Michael, had that virus actually had 489 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: a one or a five or god for data, you know, 490 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 3: ten to fifteen percent fatality ratio, we would be saying, 491 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 3: seeing like an end of civilization kind of event in 492 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: this society because people went so completely nuts and made 493 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: such bad decisions, and the authorities were such liars and 494 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: so untrustworthy. So what I wanted to do is go 495 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 3: back to Okay, when what are the origins of mass 496 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 3: mind control in the modern world. Now, by the way 497 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: it relies on modernity in some way, because you and 498 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: I are sitting here as radio guys. It is because 499 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: of mass media that you can have mass mind control 500 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 3: in the way that we've seen it. 501 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 4: Right. 502 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: Sure, there are books, sure there. 503 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: You know, there could be faith doctrines spread to people 504 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 3: over the course of centuries, et cetera. 505 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: But I'm talking about. 506 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: A concerted, immediate effort to get large numbers of people 507 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 3: to change their thinking in service of a political orthodox 508 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: your ideology. That's only possible really in an era of radio, 509 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: TV and now the Internet. 510 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 8: It's shocking because it's Orrellian in the sense, in a 511 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 8: sense and on a scale that Orwell could have never imagined. 512 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 8: And that's what's amazing we're talking about Sexton. The book 513 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 8: is manufacturing Delusion. Will continue that conversation coming up.