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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, December fourteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: And now a guy who would be saying his tenth reindeer,

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Speaker 1: but well he's sitting next to Lockerman, j P. Chadlick.

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Speaker 1: There are nine reindeer. Is that accurate? Oh, Rudolph's to ninth.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in its Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm J P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: We've got a busy show ahead, busy two hours in fact, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's Jaguars analyst Jeff Lockman. He's with us. He'll join

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Speaker 1: us here in just a moment. Jaguars Dot Com seenor

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Speaker 1: writer John Oser joins us at four fifteen. He was

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Speaker 1: aboard Kismut yesterday some media members invited to visit with

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Speaker 1: Jaguars owner shot Con today, the tenth anniversary of the

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Speaker 1: approval of his purchase of the Jaguars. We'll get John

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Speaker 1: Ozer's taken what Mr Khan had to say recapping week four.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Titans over the Jaguars twenty nothing will

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Speaker 1: put that one to bed, thank goodness. And we'll look

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Speaker 1: ahead of week fifteen. The Texans come to town to

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Speaker 1: face the Jaguars, a battle of two and eleven teams.

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Speaker 1: Then at five o'clock the Urban Meyer Show on the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Radio Network. We'll hear from Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Jags fell this past week twenty to nothing,

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Speaker 1: the first shutout lost for the Jaguars since two thousand nine.

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Speaker 1: For the third time this season, they were held to

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Speaker 1: under two hundred yards, only eight rushing yards on eight

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Speaker 1: rushing attempts total, both of those franchise lows all time.

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Speaker 1: The defense doing what they can. It was their second

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Speaker 1: best day in terms of total yardage allowed for the season,

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Speaker 1: two d and sixty three yards. Good in the quick

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Speaker 1: change category after the second half interceptions by Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: Just not enough full complementary team football this past Sunday,

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Speaker 1: of course, and the Jags take another l in the season,

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Speaker 1: their second, their second five game losing skid of the season.

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. After the game, I'm talking with Shot Khan

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Speaker 1: about his belief of turning it around. I assured him

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Speaker 1: that we I still believe in my heart we will.

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Speaker 1: How fast, you know that depends on Once again, I

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Speaker 1: still think there's good pieces you watched, don't you watched

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Speaker 1: out there today? Miles Jack and that defense and some

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Speaker 1: of those kids. Uh roy smoot, I mean I was

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Speaker 1: those guys are playing their tails off. You get a

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Speaker 1: couple of scores on offense, you're right there, and we

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Speaker 1: didn't do it. So what's the answer. Start leaking information

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Speaker 1: or some nonsense. No, No, that's nonsense, that's garbage, that's

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Speaker 1: you know, that's once again I've been very blessed. I'm

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Speaker 1: not really dealt with that. I'm not dealt with Well

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Speaker 1: did you hear what he said? What? No, Let's improve

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Speaker 1: on offense and get our quarterback in a position to

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Speaker 1: be successful. That's our focus. What someone's brother said or

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Speaker 1: someone said, someone said that will that occupy very little

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Speaker 1: my time. And if if there is a source, that

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Speaker 1: source is uneployed, I mean within seconds, if there's some

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Speaker 1: source that's doing it, that's head coach, are buyer. After

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Speaker 1: the game this past Sunday, we welcome in Jeff Logman

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Speaker 1: of course, Logs. Good afternoon, first afternoon. By the way,

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Speaker 1: who doesn't know that there's nine Reindeer? Well, okay, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's I mean really I never really, I guess

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Speaker 1: counted them. I don't know there's nine. He's the ninth.

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Speaker 1: Rudolph's the ninth, right, I mean, come on, man, okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know Rudolph with his nose so Bran,

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Speaker 1: I've heard the song, Yes, you never sang the root

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Speaker 1: and you know the song that has the names of

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Speaker 1: the previous eight, got it? You never? Christmas is kind

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Speaker 1: of right. When's the Christmas against? Okay? Good this year? Yeah? Good?

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Speaker 1: Good to know um. Saturday reports going into Sunday's game

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Speaker 1: about the tension on the staff and the story the weekend,

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Speaker 1: the weekend, and then Sunday's game happened. The Jags were

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Speaker 1: shut out this week and today. In fact, shot Con

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Speaker 1: talking to the media yesterday the tenth anniversary of his ownership,

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Speaker 1: and Con said that basically he's going to do what's

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Speaker 1: best with the team in the city moving ahead. He's

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Speaker 1: not impulsive. That's losing now is different than the losing

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Speaker 1: in the past because there's a lot of attention on

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Speaker 1: it and because of the things going on outside the team.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot happening here. Well yeah, I mean there's

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Speaker 1: a lot happening. And I think part of this too

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Speaker 1: is the level of disappointment because when when you reset

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Speaker 1: the franchise, so to speak, and that you have the

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Speaker 1: what you expect that the first overall pick, quarterback Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: And I still believe in him. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: So and the and the talk was prior to the game.

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Speaker 1: But you only have eight carries and one of those

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Speaker 1: was actually a scramble by Trevor Lawrence. So there's really

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Speaker 1: I mean really confusing. And uh and and I almost

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Speaker 1: it almost felt because you put so much pressure on

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Speaker 1: too much, and then it leads to four interceptions, which

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Speaker 1: it was not all his fault he admitted were obviously

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Speaker 1: Well the first one was the first one was not

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Speaker 1: Lavisca Chanal. Now, if Lavisca doesn't catch the ball when

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. A little teas there, but to give it

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Speaker 1: to you in summary, the Titans are shown cover zero blitz.

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Speaker 1: showing that they're all coming. Linebackers are walked up to

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Speaker 1: The third interception was uh, I think that was the

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Speaker 1: that throw. But Jadon Mixins now has to become a

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Speaker 1: a bad weekend overall on so many different fronts. Because

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Speaker 1: as they come. If he wrote it, then then then

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Speaker 1: And then you had the performance on top of that,

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Speaker 1: and so it just it just doesn't make it better.

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Speaker 1: And my point was is that you know, you you

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Speaker 1: that right? Wrong and different? It's reality, That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: And that's what Mr Kann was saying, and some of

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Speaker 1: Get his thoughts on what Mr Kanna had to say.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to unpack there, of course, about the

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Speaker 1: So all right, four games to go. This team has

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Speaker 1: scored nine points a game since the bye week on offense.

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Speaker 1: want to get back to be in your core. Well

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Speaker 1: that's what I thought. Is that what you want to

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Speaker 1: very good. I don't think that's very wise. And I

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Speaker 1: think that brings into question just just like this pass game.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I bring that up is like this

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Speaker 1: Is that what you really need for young quarterback? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're you're you're trying to create and facilitate development and

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Speaker 1: fifty one times? Is that going to accelerate his development?

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Speaker 1: But the problem is that you might risk the opposite

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Speaker 1: it's just frustrating JP and I think it's frustrating for

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Speaker 1: this offensive it is not built to pass protect all

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Speaker 1: NFL owners, how many teams have this raw material essentially

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Speaker 1: there too grow? And you know, because you go to

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Speaker 1: other cities and you just you don't have the real state.

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Speaker 1: You don't. It's right, exactly, you don't have the ability.

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Speaker 1: And he said, that's what moves the needle. That's what

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Speaker 1: he was asked specifically, why you passionate about Jackson's People

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Speaker 1: always question it, And that's what he said, This is

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Speaker 1: a chance to I don't think he used the word legacy.

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Speaker 1: How many times do you get a chance to move

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Speaker 1: the needle in a good way in a great American city?

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Speaker 1: Very rarely? That really is the power here. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you know I get that people want to question everything

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Speaker 1: these days. I've heard him say that over and over again.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that's his vision for it, that's

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Speaker 1: his motivation. Yeah, that's how I feel about it. All right, Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the coming down to the show. By the way, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: did you hear j P turned forty on Sunday? We

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Speaker 1: we we have to have that. I'll be honest, here's

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Speaker 1: what a big deal that was. I went, you know,

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Speaker 1: he had a happy hour event. I went, Jackie's just

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Speaker 1: seen the line at this place. Really it was three blocks. Now.

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Speaker 1: My wife and I said, we can't deal it. We're

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Speaker 1: both in our fifties. We can't be out that late.

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Speaker 1: But evidently it was a shin big man huh by

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Speaker 1: a happy confirm, nor deny those those reports, but a number.

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Speaker 1: It is a big number. Yes, congratulations your number. Though

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit behind. John, appreciate it, man, I'm

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Speaker 1: well done on the reporting. We appreciate that. On Jaguars

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Speaker 1: dot Com, check it out Jaguars dot Com Senior writer.

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Speaker 1: We're back in just a moment with a look ahead

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Speaker 1: senior writer John Oshan giving us the breakdown of the

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Speaker 1: meeting on Kismett. I gotta say that I've always been

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Speaker 1: a big fan of John's and John covered the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: as a beat writer back in the early days with Prisco.

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Speaker 1: He did. And then when John left for a while,

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Speaker 1: he was in Indianapolis and was covering Colts and it

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Speaker 1: was writing for Colts dot com, and then I think

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Speaker 1: also another publication there when they disbanded their in house

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Speaker 1: kind of writing staff or on the website. And if

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Speaker 1: people have never read John Osher on Jaguars dot com,

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Speaker 1: then they're making a mistake because I literally when we

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Speaker 1: used to prepare, prepare for the cults, the cults, pr

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Speaker 1: staff was notorious for having a terrible release to gather

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Speaker 1: information for for a game day broad cast. So what

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Speaker 1: would I do. I would always read John Oshan to

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Speaker 1: get the skinny on what was going on with the cults.

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Speaker 1: And so, folks, if you want the skinny, and I

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Speaker 1: get the skinny too from John still to this day,

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Speaker 1: go to Jaguars dot com because he's simply the best

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Speaker 1: sits right here down the hall, and it does a

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Speaker 1: great job in that it for a long long time

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Speaker 1: and has some good stuff on Jaguars owner shot con

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Speaker 1: the conversation. I haven't read that, but I will. There's

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Speaker 1: two stories up on Jaguars dot com as we speak.

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Speaker 1: I've been here today working with you, so I'll get

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Speaker 1: to it. Like I enjoy this on every time, you're

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Speaker 1: kind of bringing me down. How is that? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? JP, or just look the

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Speaker 1: game and the weekend for the Jaguars did not go well.

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Speaker 1: It was bad. It was and I think that that

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Speaker 1: has totally brought you down a little bit. And then

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Speaker 1: in turn, you're kind of it's like a vicious cycle. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it brought you down, and then I you know, I

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Speaker 1: was there, Okay, I saw it. It wasn't good. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't a great weekend, and so I kind of bounced

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Speaker 1: back a little bit on Monday and not come in

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Speaker 1: here and hang out with you. And now and you're

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Speaker 1: trying to bring me down. I'm not. It's not accurate

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Speaker 1: at all. First of all, I'm positive guy, and but

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Speaker 1: it's mid December. The team's not playing well. And the

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Speaker 1: offense didn't score. And no, but I'm gonna look, there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of negative to this game, and trust me,

508
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Speaker 1: I've got a list of negative here. Okay, the offensive

509
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Speaker 1: lines performance wasn't well. The Trevor appeared to be taking

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Speaker 1: a step back, the commitment to the run game was

511
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Speaker 1: not there. Those things are all true and they cannot

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Speaker 1: be denied, and especially on a weekend or the stories

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Speaker 1: that were publishing, it kind of becomes dog piling, I guess.

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Speaker 1: But it's turned. Okay, it's turned. I mean it, it happens.

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Speaker 1: But I think with all of the negative over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: the one thing that was positive that gets lost in

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Speaker 1: the mix because is of the negativity, which is, like

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Speaker 1: I said, again, it's earned the defensive performance in a

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Speaker 1: game in which the offense did nothing. And that's not

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Speaker 1: the first time that's happened. This not but but here's

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Speaker 1: the reality. The last couple of games, the defense has

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Speaker 1: not been playing particularly well. Going into that game, I

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Speaker 1: think I threw the number out there and I still

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Speaker 1: got it on my board here at the Jaguars defense

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Speaker 1: going into Tennessee in the four previous game had had

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Speaker 1: allowed five seventy five yards rushing on d carries. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot. So they weren't up to the standard that

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Speaker 1: they had said earlier in the years. But the one

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Speaker 1: category that they have been good at and they were

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Speaker 1: amazing at it in this past game because the offense

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Speaker 1: through and Trevor Lawrence through four interceptions and I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna say it was all on Trevor the offense through

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Speaker 1: four interceptions. The Jaguars defense responded in the subsequent Titans

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Speaker 1: possessions to only allow twenty one yards and to allow

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Speaker 1: a field goal three points. That for the season, now,

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Speaker 1: this is an impressive number because the offense has turned

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Speaker 1: it over time. They have only allowed as a defense

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Speaker 1: sixty four points off of those twenty five offensive giveaways.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's really good. And the one thing that's

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Speaker 1: negative that continues to be negative about the Jaguars defense,

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Speaker 1: they're not taking the ball away and that's that's a

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Speaker 1: problem that that they've got to find ways to take

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Speaker 1: the ball away. And the one number that's disturbing they

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Speaker 1: have one one recovered fumble on the air. As a

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Speaker 1: defense getting caused fumbles or recovering fumbles as a defense

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Speaker 1: getting takeaways, that's not a talent issue. That's not that's coaching,

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Speaker 1: and that's attention to detail and that's focus, and it's

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Speaker 1: not happening for the defense. That's the number that bothers

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Speaker 1: me the most as the defense, because you can do

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Speaker 1: that if you if you coach it up and the

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Speaker 1: players have the awareness for it and they and you

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Speaker 1: have players that realize this is what I need to do,

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Speaker 1: like Josh Allen did a couple of weeks ago, punching

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Speaker 1: the ball out. Great play. Where is that from other

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Speaker 1: people on the defense and we're not seeing it. That's

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Speaker 1: clearly an area that Joe Cullen and his coaches coaching

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Speaker 1: staff on the defensive side of the ball can and

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Speaker 1: should get better at because, like I said, that is

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Speaker 1: not necessarily a talent issue. But the one thing I

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Speaker 1: will say in their defense, takeaways a lot of times

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Speaker 1: happen when the score differential gets in your favor. So

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Speaker 1: in other words, you're winning, teams feel like they have

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Speaker 1: to press, like Trevor did late in the ball game,

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Speaker 1: Well we're not making anything happen. We gotta force one here,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you end up finding

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Speaker 1: a way of making an interception or somebody gets careless

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Speaker 1: with the ball because they're trying to do too much

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Speaker 1: because their teams not playing well and they're trying to

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Speaker 1: make up for somebody else messing up, and the and

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Speaker 1: the defense doesn't have that ability to be a front

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Speaker 1: running team in a game to have the opponents make mistakes.

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Speaker 1: Teams that are playing the Jaguars right now, you know

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Speaker 1: what they're thinking is we score seventeen points. W we won,

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Speaker 1: So they're playing conservative. The Tennessee Titans played extremely conservative.

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Speaker 1: How many balls down the field did you see Tanny

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Speaker 1: Hill thrown up? Hardly any? Because there's a mindset now

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Speaker 1: when you play the Jaguars, and it's the right mindset.

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Speaker 1: Don't make a mistake, Just get enough points. They're not

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Speaker 1: good enough on offense to score. Don't don't beat yourself

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Speaker 1: against the Jaguars. And that will be the Texans mindset

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Speaker 1: when they come in here on Sunday as well. Let's

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Speaker 1: take a look at the Houston Texans offense, and they

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Speaker 1: are dead last in the league and a number of categories,

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Speaker 1: including scoring. They are two tenths of a point worse

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Speaker 1: than the Jaguars and points per game. They are last

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Speaker 1: in total offense, last and rushing offense thirty feet in

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Speaker 1: passing offense. Um, they've given the ball away twenty times

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Speaker 1: this season, ten fumbles lost, ten interceptions, which is bottom third. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, so they're not a good offense. They've had

590
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Speaker 1: so many changes, injuries, guys have moved on. Davis Mills

591
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Speaker 1: is the quarterback now committed to him. He just just

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Speaker 1: had a seventh start. Yeah, and you know there's talk

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Speaker 1: down there talking to folks down there today that you know,

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Speaker 1: if this offseason goes a certain way, they might just

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Speaker 1: circle behind him next season. Two. That's all up in

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Speaker 1: the air. Of course, there's still four games left this season.

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Speaker 1: But last week through over three thirty yards touchdown. Uh

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Speaker 1: seven starts as you said, log sixty six passing in

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Speaker 1: those games and eight touchdowns, eight interceptions. Third round pick

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Speaker 1: this year out of Stanford, So he's he's triggering all

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Speaker 1: this right now. Let me let me just give you, okay.

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Speaker 1: And in these categories, Davis Mills is better than Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence completion percentage, yards per attempt, touchdown percentage, he's better

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Speaker 1: in the interception percentage category. His rating is higher. I

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Speaker 1: mean those numbers when we look at that as Jaguar fans,

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Speaker 1: we go, wait a minute, Wait a minute. This this

607
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Speaker 1: is a third round pick that's playing for the Texans

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Speaker 1: and we got the first overall pick in the draft,

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Speaker 1: and ours is not playing better than theirs. If you

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Speaker 1: look at those numbers, that would bother you, right concerning Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that and that's and that that's I think that's something

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Speaker 1: that's going forward that that has to be fixed and

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Speaker 1: that's not look at the text. You know, people talk

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Speaker 1: about and people have used you know, people have used excuses,

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Speaker 1: Oh well, you know we've had injuries or you know,

616
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have had injuries, they've lost guys dotata dot

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Speaker 1: name me somebody on the Texans offense. That's a big

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Speaker 1: time weapon. Yeah, you don't have many. I mean there's many. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean cooks. But that's about it. And that's that's

620
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Speaker 1: stretching it. Okay, yeah, okay then, or I mean is

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Speaker 1: it so? Is is it a weapons issue for Trevor

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Speaker 1: m I mean, that's my point is that you have

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Speaker 1: enough weapons to where the performance can and should be

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Speaker 1: better right now, especially at this point of the season

625
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Speaker 1: when he has the number of snaps that he has

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Speaker 1: under his belt. That's got to get better for Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not pointing the finger at him. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's a finger that gets pointed at the

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Speaker 1: entire process, you know, that gets pointed at coaches, at

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Speaker 1: at the program, at ever his teammates. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: everything's better. Absolutely, Houston defense. I guess what they haven't

632
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Speaker 1: played much better than the offense has done in Houston

633
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Speaker 1: this year. This is far from the Texans defense of

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Speaker 1: about five years ago. Those guys are gone now. They

635
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: sent away. Is that Cunningham And last week they waived

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Speaker 1: him and sposedly violated some team rules. Tardiness, et cetera

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Speaker 1: was an issue with him in Houston. Well he's gone.

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Speaker 1: Now he's with the Titans, and they'll get to figure

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Speaker 1: it out. Which Mike Rabel coached him when Mike was

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Speaker 1: thing on that Mike knows him obviously very well, if

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Speaker 1: he coached him and then he picks him up. And

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Speaker 1: that was a waiver claim as it was, And where

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00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: the Jaguars at in the waiver claim more, they're right

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Speaker 1: up there near the top. I wonder if that was

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Speaker 1: considered just a thought. I don't know the answer to that.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that because I can tell you that us

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Speaker 1: Zach Cunningham. I haven't watched him, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: what happened with the issues this year. But when you

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Speaker 1: watch Zack Cunningham, I think it was a second round pick.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a first round pick. I can't remember, because he's

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Speaker 1: a high pick. He's a really good football player, really

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Speaker 1: good football player, can play in space, he's fast, he

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Speaker 1: can blitz, he can do a lot of different things.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know cap numbers, I don't know guaranteed money,

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Speaker 1: because all of those things have to factor in. But

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Speaker 1: when you find out that somebody was available and you go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that was an opportunity for this team to maybe acquire

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Speaker 1: some better talent, I'm going, well, I wonder why they

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Speaker 1: didn't do that. That's thinking out loud? Is that cutting him?

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Speaker 1: Second round pick out of Vanderbilt? Um? It was the

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Speaker 1: Lea's leading tackler last year. He's a Pro Bowl at

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Speaker 1: at one point he was considered a Pro Bowl type

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Speaker 1: caliber linebacker. And who's the other guy that was in

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Speaker 1: the middle with him? It was that cunning Ham and

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Speaker 1: Hard head, I mean just a tough, physical linebacker. About

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Speaker 1: Bernardrick McKinney. Yeah, those two guys when when when they

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Speaker 1: were you know with j J and Merciless, I mean

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Speaker 1: that that that was a good defense, good defense, and

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Speaker 1: that Cunningham was a big part of it. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: it will be a totally different looking group when they

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Speaker 1: come rolling in here this Sunday, will return and take

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Speaker 1: a look at the Baptist Health injury report for the Jags,

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Speaker 1: will look at the a f C South standings though

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Speaker 1: you have a pretty good idea, and we'll get our

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Speaker 1: final thoughts and then at five o'clock the Urban Meyers

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Speaker 1: Show here from the Jaguars head coach, as always on

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Speaker 1: Tuesday afternoon, get his thoughts, final thoughts on last week's game,

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Speaker 1: moving ahead to the Texans, and much much more coming

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Speaker 1: up from the head coach. This is Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour Tuesday afternoon. Coming up in about ten minutes, the

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Speaker 1: The Baptist Health Injury Report Baptist Health changing healthcare for

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Speaker 1: good Orban Meyer Monday said Carlos Hide was in concussion protocol.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Brandon Linder missed last week's game with a

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Speaker 1: back issue. There are six players on the reserve injured list,

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Speaker 1: and we've got four games to go. We'll maybe get

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Speaker 1: some more from urban Meyer would guess maybe Wednesday when

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Speaker 1: he speaks with the media on the injury set up.

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Speaker 1: Of course, that's when the the injury report starts coming

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Speaker 1: out Wednesday, Thursday, Friday each week, and as you would

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Speaker 1: expect this time of year logs, you're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: longer list because of the way the season goes. It's

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Speaker 1: time of year, that's what it is. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just it's just part of it um and it's not

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Speaker 1: easy to fight through. I can tell you that at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year. It when you're when you're losing,

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Speaker 1: and then you have physical ailments on top, it even

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Speaker 1: makes it more difficult and and and for part of

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Speaker 1: that reason, that's one of the things I say that

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Speaker 1: this defense should be also not forgotten about how good

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Speaker 1: of a performance that was from this game, because when

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Speaker 1: you have an offense that has had the number of

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Speaker 1: weeks of lack of performance, then it's easy probably just

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Speaker 1: to say, here we go again. You know, why should

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Speaker 1: I play hard? We don't have a chance, and the

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Speaker 1: the motivation just evaporate eates, And for this defense to

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Speaker 1: continue to play as hard as they did, I thought.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was impressive. And some guys that I

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Speaker 1: thought played really well defensively, and I just want to

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Speaker 1: mention some names here. Okay, I thought Campbell played solid.

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Speaker 1: It's not like the Titans were throwing the ball a lot,

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Speaker 1: so it wasn't a lot of expected out of him.

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Speaker 1: But you could feel the difference that Shaq Griffin provided

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Speaker 1: in that game because he was matched up against Toulio

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and right from the onset he established

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Speaker 1: with that open field tackle that hey, I'm here to play,

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Speaker 1: and he made a difference. I thought his play was strong.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen was just kind of That's been about three

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Speaker 1: weeks now, three games for Josh Allen to where you

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Speaker 1: haven't seen a strong performance. And I'm just thinking out

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Speaker 1: loud here, But at the beginning of the Atlanta game

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Speaker 1: he sustained what appeared to be a shoulder injury. Is

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Speaker 1: that affecting him now and affecting his ability to perform?

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Speaker 1: He's been on the report at least was last week

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Speaker 1: with that. So Damien Wilson had a sack on a

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Speaker 1: blitz at tin tackles. I thought he was outstanding, outstanding.

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown was solid as normal. I thought, uh, week before,

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Speaker 1: pushed around a little bit of the Atlanta game, pushed

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Speaker 1: around a little bit. I thought he bounced back. Roy

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Speaker 1: Robertson Harris was a beast, I mean a beast, smooth

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Speaker 1: the week before strong. The only thing that I would

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Speaker 1: criticize Smooth on is that, dude, you can't line up

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Speaker 1: all sides if you're dropping from the linebacking spot. Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: I can't do that. But he was. But he was strong.

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Speaker 1: He had a good performance again. You know, he got

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Speaker 1: five sacks last year, he had a career high five

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Speaker 1: and a half. He's on pace to have a career high.

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Speaker 1: And I've I said this last week. He's tough, he

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Speaker 1: plays hard, he's tenacious, and and you've gotta love players

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Speaker 1: like him, love him. But Roy Robertson Harris, I think

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Speaker 1: is a guy that when they acquired him, they were

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Speaker 1: talking about how they didn't know how high the ceiling

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Speaker 1: really was us. That game gave you a glimpse of, Wow,

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Speaker 1: this guy could have a much higher ceiling than what

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Speaker 1: they're paying for in free agency. You rarely get that,

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Speaker 1: rarely get that. So I really like his performance and

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Speaker 1: I think he's gotten better and better and better. And

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Speaker 1: obviously he had the ankle injury or early in the season.

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Speaker 1: He bounced back from it a little bit and you

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Speaker 1: could tell that he's kind of fighting and kind of

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Speaker 1: find his way. The last couple of weeks his performance

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Speaker 1: has been really good, really good. And the one guy,

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Speaker 1: though I will say that did not have a good

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Speaker 1: performance on defense, Tavin Bryant was not good, which was

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Speaker 1: kind of surprising. He had been playing okay and and

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Speaker 1: I had a game a couple of games there where

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Speaker 1: he played pretty good. He was not good in this game.

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Speaker 1: And Miles Jack. Where where are the impact plays that

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Speaker 1: Miles Jack has made in the past. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about? Plays on the ball, calls, fumbles, recovered fumbles, interceptions,

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Speaker 1: past defense, it's part of it, the position. And he's

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Speaker 1: back in the middle of the three four. Now what

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Speaker 1: is it? It's outside a year ago or no. I

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Speaker 1: just I mean, I don't want, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're playing his own defense. You got your

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Speaker 1: eyes back to the to the ball. It's an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to make more plays. And and I just and look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not he's not playing bad. I'm just saying that

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Speaker 1: I thought, and I think he's got another level that

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Speaker 1: the what he what he's the level he sat in seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, Okay. I was hoping he would

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Speaker 1: be able to get back to some of that and

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Speaker 1: uh not. Not not a great year for him. You

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Speaker 1: know what the good news is about this defense continuing

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00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: to improve, But Miles Jack will knock your socks off.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's punishing guys still, He's still extremely physical.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, the impact plays the game changing plays.

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Speaker 1: We're not seeing some of those names you listed off earlier, Robertson, Harris, Wilson, Um,

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Speaker 1: the one Smoot. They're all on multi year deals here.

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Speaker 1: This this is a good core of this defense. It's

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00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: going to be together for at least another year, if

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00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: not longer than that of Jack Griffin signed a longer deal.

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Speaker 1: So still need still need that inside, the dominant inside

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Speaker 1: kind of pass rusher that can affect the quarterbacks play.

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Speaker 1: And everybody wants Aaron Donald, but they only got only

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Speaker 1: made one of them. And so but can you find

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Speaker 1: somebody that can give you something on the inside you

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Speaker 1: need it? Veterans, choose v A for the benefits you've earned.

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Speaker 1: Visit choose dot v A dot gov. Let's take a

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Speaker 1: look at the a f C South standings and as

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Speaker 1: you would expect, they have not changed. The Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 1: are in control of the a f C South nine

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Speaker 1: and four, four and one in the division Indie seven

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Speaker 1: and six, three and two in the division Houston two

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Speaker 1: and eleven there are two wins have been in the division,

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Speaker 1: and Jacksonville two and eleven. They are oh for four

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Speaker 1: in the a f C South. Upcoming schedules only four

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00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: weeks remaining in the one campaign. And of course the

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00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: Jaguars this week faced the Houston Texans here at home,

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Speaker 1: at the Jets at New England, and then home against Indy.

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Speaker 1: And I must say my lock from Monday a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago of the Jaguars sweeping the a f

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Speaker 1: C East is not looking great. The Texans, of course

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Speaker 1: here this week at the Chargers at San fran home

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Speaker 1: against Tennessee, the Colts New England in Indy at Arizona,

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Speaker 1: home against Vegas at Jacksonville, and then Tennessee with a

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Speaker 1: tough one at Pittsburgh. That's not a tough home against

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. It's a pretty tough game against Miami and

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Speaker 1: then at Houston. All right, I'll give you that. It's

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Speaker 1: not a super tough schedule for anybody. Really. There is

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Speaker 1: the Colts, New England, Arizona, Vegas, the ll come in

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Speaker 1: a Week eight team the first three games for Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: is that's a pretty tough matchup. By the way, Mike

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Speaker 1: Rabel would absolutely be in the conversation for NFL Coach

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Speaker 1: of the Year because if you look at that Titans

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Speaker 1: football team and you and you really look closely. I

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Speaker 1: like I like John Robinson, their general manager. I think

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Speaker 1: he's done a pretty good job, but he hasn't been perfect.

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Speaker 1: Make no mistake, he has not been perfect. And Mike Vyable,

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Speaker 1: I think has gotten more out of less than what

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Speaker 1: a lot of coaches get out of football teams. He's

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Speaker 1: done a really good job and had their big workhorse

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Speaker 1: a lot of the season and they are right there

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Speaker 1: at the top and with a chance to fight for

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Speaker 1: that number one seed in the a f C. Urban

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Speaker 1: Meyer Show is coming up in just about a minute

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Speaker 1: and a half or so. What do you want to

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Speaker 1: hear from Urban tonight? Well, a couple of things. One

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Speaker 1: about the commitment of the running game or lack thereof,

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Speaker 1: and then the other thing that was a little bit disturbing.

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Speaker 1: You saw that kind of key Keystone Cops play where

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Speaker 1: wide receivers run into each other and it doesn't look

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Speaker 1: good and like, what are you doing? And and there

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Speaker 1: were a couple other instances in the game where the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver space scene where that they got in the

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Speaker 1: same neighborhood. And for a quarterback, especially a young quarterback,

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Speaker 1: if you're not having precision by the people around you,

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Speaker 1: makes it extremely difficult for any young quarterback to have success,

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Speaker 1: and that's got to get cleaned up. So we need

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Speaker 1: to ask him about that as well. Yeah, a lot

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Speaker 1: of noise around the organization right now too. How can

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Speaker 1: he ignore a lot of that and get this team

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Speaker 1: playing better football as a whole? Well here from the

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Speaker 1: head coach coming up in just a few moments. That'll

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Speaker 1: do it for Jaguars Happy Hour. Thanks to Jaguars dot

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Speaker 1: Com Senior writer John Osier stepped in with us. Read

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