1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and. 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: Load from Michael Veri Show is on the air. 3 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: A very warm welcome to our new listeners in Toledo, 4 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: Ohio on news Radio thirteen seventy AM and ninety two 5 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: point nine FM WSPD. We are honored to have you 6 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: and to let you know you can email me anytime 7 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: through our webs Michael Berryshow dot com and yes I 8 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: do read every single one. 9 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Looking forward to hearing from you in Toledo, Ohio. 10 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: We are huge fans of Victor Davis Hanson and I 11 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: decided long ago that our show was not just going 12 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: to be me yammering, that when we found good things, 13 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: we would share them with you. You know, back when Matt 14 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: Drudge was at his most influential in the Drudge Report, 15 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: Drudge didn't write hardly anything. What he did is he 16 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: went out and found interesting things and that was a 17 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 3: place to go and he would curate it. 18 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: But we kind of view our show that way. 19 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: We're a team of folks, not just me, And while 20 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: I do most of the talking, a lot of it 21 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: is somebody else's idea on our team or something I've 22 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: read or something I've heard. So what we thought we 23 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: would do today during this last hour of the show, 24 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: and maybe we'll take up the whole hour. 25 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: We'll see is H. 26 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: Victor Davis Hanson, and we will I be able to 27 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: get to all of it on the show today, and 28 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: it was my intention to Saturday's podcast will be the 29 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: entirety of Victor Davis Hansen with no interruption. But today 30 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: we pulled just some of my favorite parts of this 31 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: discussion on why Trump won the twenty twenty four election, 32 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: and I think he's done a wonderful job explaining some 33 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: things that you might not have noticed but. 34 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: That you were a part of. 35 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: One of Australia's top journalists, Paul Kelly, has just said 36 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 4: this about the American election. The wide swathes of Middle 37 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 4: America knew Trump wasn't any saint, but they turned the 38 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 4: electoral matte red because they endorsed his bedrock positions that 39 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: living standards were in retreat, inflation was too high, borders 40 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 4: were not secure, and elites were too arrogant. Is that 41 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 4: a fair assessment. 42 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: I think it's a very fair it's a very accurate assessment. 43 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: I think they also saw that the occasional crudity of 44 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: Donald Trump was almost a mechanism, and their desperation that 45 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: was necessary to get the attention of the elites. In 46 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: other words, they wanted somebody who wouldn't equivocate and didn't 47 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: come from that milieu. And so they were really saying, 48 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: your agenda has no support, and yet you're ramming it 49 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: down our throats, and you won't listen to us, and 50 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: you make fun of us, You call us garbage, deplorables. 51 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: They were deemables, clingers, chumps, gregs. These are all pejoratives 52 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: at Biden and Obama and the Clintons of us. And 53 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 2: you forced us to do this. But we have now 54 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: a champion and he's going to cut through all of 55 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: this and remind you that we run the country in 56 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: not Hollywood or the institutions. There's academia, Silicon Valley. And 57 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: so they were in a complete bubble about what this 58 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: earth quake was about to hit them or this storm. 59 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: Everybody could see it. I think some of them saw it. 60 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: But the media felt in the last seventy two hours 61 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: maybe or four days, if they rigged a poll in 62 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: Iowa or they said that it was dead even or 63 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 2: that the Senate was going to be held by the 64 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: Democrats that would either get people to the polls or 65 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: it would raise money or create momentum. But John, there 66 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: were so many indicators that would prove what mister Kelly 67 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: said that the registrations were an all time high for Republicans. 68 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: They had gained six hundred thousand registrations since the last 69 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: time they contested Pennsylvania in twenty twenty. They had been 70 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: completely dumbfounded in twenty twenty on non election day balloting, 71 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: and yet they had more people non election day ballot. 72 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: They mastered the art of early in male in vallet 73 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: than the Democrats did. They got almost twenty five percent 74 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: of black males. That really and then that wasn't really 75 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: the key statistic. Black males who did not vote for 76 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: Donald Trump stayed home, and so these big centers that 77 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: they count on to swarm rural areas in Detroit, Pittsburgh, 78 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: Philadelphia were not there in sufficient numbers. They said there 79 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: was a female gap and that Donald Trump was a 80 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: sexist and he had alienated women. He got in many 81 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: states he got more suburban white women than he did 82 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: than did heris the Hispanic vote, and we've talked about that. 83 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: I had never seen a and I live in a 84 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: Mexican American community overwhelmingly so. But I had not talked 85 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: to a Mexican American over the age of forty male 86 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: male who was going to vote for Kamala Harris, and 87 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: that had not been true. Into sixteen. They even had 88 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: the omige going out, They worked the Arab American Muslim vote, 89 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: They split the Jewish vote, which usually is seventy thirty. 90 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: All of that was known to the posters and to 91 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: the media, and yet they kept telling us that Donald 92 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: Trump was dumbfounded by Saturday Night Live, that Donald Trump 93 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 2: had threatened to kill Liz Cheney, that Donald Trump wanted 94 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: to kill the media, and they didn't. They didn't. Everybody 95 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: got sick of them. They didn't like to be lectured too, 96 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: and they knew what was going to happen. Everybody that 97 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: I knew from the middle classes thought Donald Trump was 98 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: going to win, and I could feel it. 99 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 4: Pick to the reality is is it looks to be 100 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 4: the case from here, all the money, all the celebrities, 101 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 4: all the so called influences, most of the media were 102 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: absolutely one sided and painting Trump as a threat to democracy. 103 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: This is surely actually in the in a wind for 104 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 4: democracy because people saw thrut all. They're not the mugs 105 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: that the elites take them to be. 106 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: No, they as you say, they had academia, Hollywood entertainment, 107 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: the celebrities, the money, Wall Street, the foundations. All they 108 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: lacked was the people because their agenda. They had lied 109 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: to the American people. They had said Donald Trump was 110 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: a disruptor, a disuniter, and we under old Joe Biden 111 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: from Scranton in twenty twenty will unite the country under moderation, 112 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: and that was a complete lie. They used him as 113 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: a vessel and empty vessel for an Obama extreme agenda 114 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: of open borders with no health or background checks, twelve 115 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: million illegal aliens, uninhabitable downtown of our major cities. They 116 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: were overridden with crime, an attack on fossil fuels, nuclear power, 117 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: a disastrous foreign policy that you could define it by 118 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: the Afghanistan debacle, or the two wars in Ukraine and 119 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,119 Speaker 2: the Middle East, or the Chinese balloon or China threat 120 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: to plot in Taiwan. 121 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: More Victor Davis Hanson. Why Trump won the twenty twenty 122 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: four elections coming up? 123 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: They remain scared the death of you, and they remain 124 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: scared to. 125 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: Death of Trump. Michael Berry Show. 126 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: You're not going anywhere even if Trump does. You're not. 127 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 3: So I'm turning over some of our space to something 128 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: we are which will also be our Saturday podcast, and 129 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 3: that is Victor Davis Hanson's Why Trump Won the twenty 130 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 3: twenty four election. 131 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: We thought it was rather insightful and we wanted to 132 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: share it with you. 133 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: We won't be able to get to all of it 134 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 3: on the show today, but it will be our entire 135 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 3: Saturday podcast this Saturday. Next Saturday will be Molly Hemingway 136 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: on Media Bias, which you don't want to miss. 137 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: But we're not on the air live on Saturdays. 138 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: So we always choose something because people asked us to 139 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: do that. This is something that we I know, ramone, 140 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: I got it. Yes, can I finish? So it's amazing 141 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: things I have to do while we're most distracted me Anyway, 142 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: we thought it was really good and so we pulled 143 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: a few clips from it in case you don't get 144 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: to listen to the entire Saturday podcast. Here here's Victor 145 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 3: Davis Hanson on why Trump won the twenty twenty four election. 146 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 4: Did you see yourself or imagine such a disasive victory? 147 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: Did I imagine the victory such a desausion victory is. Yeah, 148 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: I thought he had a good chance of winning the 149 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: popular vote, just because if you have a Republican candidate, 150 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: and the way it works here, as you know, they 151 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: lose the urban areas and the minority votes, and they 152 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: count on the rural areas, and under the Obama massaging, 153 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: and those urban areas had reached such a you know, 154 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: when Obama ran in twenty twelve against Romney for reelection, 155 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: he won one precinct in Philadelphia, very dubiously, so thirty 156 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: thousand to one. How can you ever make that out? 157 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: When you hear that Donald Trump was going to get 158 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: half of the Latino vote, or he was going to 159 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: get twenty five percent of the Black vote, or he 160 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: was going to get union people or the United Auto 161 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: Workers or the Teamsters. That hasn't happened here. And this 162 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: was a man that they said was racist and polarizing 163 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: and hateful. And then when you saw that suburban white 164 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: women were going over him at the time, we were 165 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: told all they care about his abortion on demand. Yeah, 166 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: you can see that he had made inroads, and you 167 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: had a super impose that fact on the reality that 168 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: unlike a Bob Dole or Mitt Romney or John McCain. 169 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: He had a fanatical base in rural and small town America, 170 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: and I mean fanatical is defined by they would do 171 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: anything to vote for him. If there's a hurricane in 172 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: rural North Carolina, they didn't matter. They were going to 173 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: get out and win him that state. Nobody had ever 174 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: seen such loyalty by these irredeemables. These were the people 175 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: of East Palestine and Ohio that the administration completely ignored 176 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: when they had a toxic fume. They are the people 177 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: that were in the hurricane damage that they were very 178 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: tardy in helping. And so it's I think it's a 179 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 2: very good lesson because it's democracy and representative democracy in 180 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: its best form. You know what. Another irony we were 181 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: told John that with the National Voters Compact that the 182 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: Blue states had were only sixty one votes short of 183 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 2: getting rid of the electoral College, which has a lot 184 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: of constitutional protections in it and has a long history 185 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 2: of utility for both sides. And these state legislatures had 186 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: voted to go around the amendment process, which they could 187 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: never do. You need two thirds of Congress, three fourths 188 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: of the state and just have the states adhere to 189 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: the national vote and reject the state vote because they 190 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: were sure they were going to win the national vote. 191 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: And they had won the national every national vote since 192 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: two thousand and four, for twenty years, and they hadn't 193 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: They a Republican hadn't gotten fifty one percent of the 194 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 2: majority vote since nineteen eighty eight. And guess what. Donald 195 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: Trump was the first person in twenty years on the 196 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: Republican side to win the popular vote. He will probably 197 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: be the first republicans's ninety eighty eight to win fifty 198 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 2: one percent of the popular vote. And all the states 199 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: that swore in pass legislation they would unconstitutionally reflect the 200 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 2: national vote not doing it. California is pledging all of 201 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: its electors to Harris, who won the state, as they should. 202 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: So the more that the aftermath is really making the 203 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: left look pretty bad. He moved. 204 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 4: Trump moved quite quickly in his acceptance speech, victory speech, 205 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: whatever he might choose to call it, to say that 206 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 4: he would seek to heal America, given that he may 207 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 4: in fact have secured that first majority vote for so 208 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 4: long and so forth is in a position to do so. 209 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 4: America looks so bifurcated so at war with itself. I 210 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 4: mean the constant him as a fascist. 211 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: He is. People apparently don't know what the word means. Oh. 212 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: I must remember that after twenty sixteen, after they were 213 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: he and Hillary, she was calling him a agent and 214 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: he was calling her crooked Hillary. Everybody thought that given 215 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: she had destroyed thirty thousand emails and the devices upon 216 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: them and they were under subpoena, that he would have 217 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: the DOJ go after And when he say the first 218 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: thing he said, she's suffered enough, people went to him 219 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: and said, you've got to fire James Comy, the director 220 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: of the FBI, sab he tried to sabotage. I'm not 221 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: going to do that. He never did any of that. 222 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: But how can he heal the country? When Latita James, 223 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: a prosecutor in New York who tried to bankrupt him 224 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: and said that she's going to press down. How can 225 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: you do when Alvin Bragg at the end of the 226 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,479 Speaker 2: month is going to try to put him in jail 227 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: and Jack Smith has re indicted him. A federal prosecutor 228 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: for all of these were minor matters. That know whether 229 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: prosecutor would have picked up they've never done it against 230 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: the next president. And now we're facing a situation where 231 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: the left is openly saying, well, we may have lost 232 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: the election, but maybe Fanny Willow, Latita James, or Alvin 233 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: Bragg or Jack Smith can put him in jail, and 234 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: that would cause the constitutional crisis he's been two people 235 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: try to shoot him. People are very afraid of his 236 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: health in the next ninety days until he takes power. 237 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: Everybody had heard a new Kamala Harris that had rejected 238 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: thirty years of her radical, very radical socialist agendas to 239 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: be palatable. But everybody now is so cynical. They know 240 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: that when she has ninety days left on her vice 241 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: presidential tenure, she'll just revert back to what she was 242 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: before the campaign. So the hostility is coming from the left, 243 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: and it's always been that way in this cycle of 244 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: politics that we've seen. There's something about Donald Trump that 245 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: and you see it in your country, you see it 246 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: in Europe. Among wealthy elites, educated elites. They feel that 247 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: he he should not represent them, even though he has 248 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: constitutionally won that privilege of representing, they still don't want 249 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: him to be represented by him more. 250 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: Victor Davis Hanson why Trump won the twenty twenty. 251 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: Four Americans a nation that can be defined in a 252 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: single word. I put him put the number nine, not 253 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: only frontier. Gimory expressed a courage. 254 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: Scene of the Statum Michael Berry show. 255 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 5: He now. 256 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: Knows, I think how the place works. Yes, that and 257 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 4: he will know. I would imagine who are real change 258 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 4: agents and who to put who to build around him 259 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 4: if you like a good team around himself. That presumably 260 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: with a sympathetic House and Congress, as it appears he 261 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: will have. The Cynics might say that'll give him unfettered power. 262 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 4: Others might say it will help him govern in a 263 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: very clean way. To respond, let's face it to America's 264 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 4: vital concerns. The economy is not doing well for them, 265 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 4: Immigration is a problem, and the elites and their wokism 266 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 4: are mad. He will know now much more effectively how 267 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 4: to start to change these things. 268 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 6: Would that be a fair assessment, Yeah, I think it is. 269 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 6: He doesn't see that as radical. He sees that He's 270 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 6: called it common sense. He's taken the example of Mexico. 271 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 6: Mexico is sent by deliberation twelve million illegals. Here, we 272 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 6: have three hundred and fifty thousand people with criminal records 273 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 6: that were knowingly let in from Latin America and Mexico. 274 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 6: They've committed horrendous crimes. We have the cartels that have 275 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 6: killed indirectly but by design in a way, by masking 276 00:17:54,320 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 6: fentanyl with prescription drugs and candy, even one hundred thousand Americans. 277 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 6: And Eiden was so afraid to say anything to Mexican. 278 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 6: First thing Trump said, and he even said it before 279 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 6: the election, I'm going to call the president of Mexico 280 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 6: up and I'm going to say no more fentanyl and 281 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 6: no more illegalation immigration. I'm going to slap a twenty 282 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 6: five percent tariff on you, and I'm going to probably 283 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 6: tax your remittance as you get sixty billion. We'll see 284 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 6: how you like it. And he's serious about that. He's 285 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 6: not trying to bully people, but he does things like that. 286 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 6: So if you have an international incident where Australia isn't 287 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 6: a very vulnerable to take your country and they feel 288 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 6: that they need the support and encouragement of the United States, 289 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 6: he's not going if he believes that. 290 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: If he were to agree with you, he's not going 291 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: to call up and say, well on the one hand. 292 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: On the other hand, he would say what do you need, 293 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: when do you need it, and I'll do it. And 294 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: that's the type of ally he is. He's not wishy washy, 295 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 2: and that's what bothers the left. They think in nuances 296 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: are in gradations and incrementalism. He's not that. For better 297 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 2: or worse. He's very decisive. He's not reckless, but he's 298 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 2: very decisive, and he moves very decisively with China, with Russia, 299 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: with the radical Islamic world. And if you think what 300 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: he said he was going to do in two thousand 301 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: and fifteen, he said he was going to get rid 302 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: of Isis. In fact, he used the bulgarity, I'm going 303 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: to bomb the shi t out of them. He said 304 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 2: he was going to deal with the Iranians who had 305 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: killed Americans in Iraq. That was Solomani. He said that 306 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: he was going to cut off Iran and brankrupt him. 307 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: He almost did. He would have if they hadn't uplifted 308 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: the sanction. All of those things he did. And I 309 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: was talking to, you know, to some Israelis diplomats, and 310 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: they said, we've had so many sophisticated people who knew 311 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 2: the Middle East and we've asked them for support and 312 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 2: they always give us a thousand reasons why they couldn't 313 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: do it. And they were asking me, as an American, 314 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 2: what is it with your president? He came over here 315 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: and our team said to him, we'd like to finally 316 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: get the embassy in Jerusalem. He said, it always belonged there. 317 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: And then they said they keep talking about the Golden 318 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: Heisman Israeli. He said, yes it is, that's done. And 319 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: then they said, in Iran is the cause of all 320 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: these problems. Is there any chance that we could discuss 321 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: the Iran deal or the one hundred billion in oil revenue. 322 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: He said, they're done, We're out of the Iran deal. 323 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: We're going to get this. And then they would say 324 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: things like the Huthis are terrorists, but no American would 325 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 2: wants to ruffle their fair. Well, we'll just call them terrorists. 326 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 2: And as this diplomat spoke to me, he said he 327 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 2: did more for Israel that needed to be done, not 328 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 2: just because he liked Israel, but we're fair and were 329 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: for the greater good of the Middle East. He did 330 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: more in two months than the last fifty years of 331 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: American presidencies. And he said The odd thing about it 332 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 2: was he probably was not a sophisticated or as well 333 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: read in the intricacies and the nuances of Middle East 334 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: history and diplomacy, but he had an innate, I mean, 335 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: and sense of Moraley what had to be done and 336 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: why it wasn't done. And so that's why he's kind 337 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: of you know, yo to Israel today and he doesn't 338 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 2: mention Israel much. He doesn't really talk about it, but 339 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: when you go to Israel, he's almost a sainted figure 340 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 2: because he did more for the autonomy of Israel than 341 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 2: any other president has done, and yet he didn't really 342 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: He may john have got forty percent of the Muslim 343 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: vote in Michigan, the more the left pand or two. Yeah, 344 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: he did. Part of it was one of the daughters 345 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: in the West. 346 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: We do have a look in the wish that there 347 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 4: are many many people in the Middle East who are 348 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: quietly cheering Israel on because they're frightened of Iran. 349 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: Yes, he did, and he was. He made the argument 350 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: that Hamas does not represent or it may have been 351 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: elected at once, but it's not in the interests of 352 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 2: the people of Gaza that Iran. If you cut off 353 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: the head of the snake. Then people would be free 354 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: to deal with Hesbalah and Hamas and the hutis a 355 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: lot of people from the Middle East appreciate that, and 356 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 2: so I think it's an exciting time. We'll see if 357 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: he gets good people around him. One of the problems 358 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: that when you talk to people surrounding him in twenty sixteen, 359 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 2: no one wanted to work for him, The Maverick, the Outsider. 360 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty, it was sort of that he had a team. 361 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: Now they're getting six and seven applications for even minor position. 362 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: Everybody wants to work for Donald Trump. And I don't 363 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 2: know if he's going to be able to filter out. 364 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 2: But suddenly the thing in Washington is all of these 365 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: never Trump or anybody wants to be part of this team. 366 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: They're very excited, and they're going to have a terrible 367 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 2: time trying to find people who will not do what 368 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: happened last time with the anonymous the person in Homeland 369 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 2: Security that was bragging to the New York Times and 370 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: he was sort of an insurrectionist and derailing executive orders. 371 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: Are people in the Defense Department that were overriding Trump's orders. 372 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 2: He's got to get a team that is loyal, but 373 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: he's got so many people that want to participate. 374 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 4: He did say, as I understand it, at one point, 375 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 4: that Israeli should go after Aron's nuclear capability. Presumably he's 376 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 4: likely to revisit that, and presumably the Iranians are now 377 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: deeply concerned because plainly they've been hit much harder already 378 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 4: by the Israelis, and they're admitting plainly they now know 379 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: that Israeli is highly effective with American encouragement. I would 380 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: have thought the Israelis could do a men's damage to 381 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 4: Iran and they would be extraordinarily subdued by that at 382 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 4: the moment. 383 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that because of his you had 384 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 5: a lot of people RFK Tulci Gabbard around him, and 385 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 5: he is campaigned strenuously against optional military wars in. 386 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: The Middle East, especially land engagements. Cost of benefit analysis, 387 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: these are not worth it. But as I understand his 388 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: message to net Yahoo is it would be better for 389 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: you if you feel that Iran is going to attack 390 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: you again, either to write it out and then take 391 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: it in retaliation. Given the prompt to take out the 392 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: nuclear facilities, their military bases that are oil before I'm president, 393 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: that would be easier. So that is the message that 394 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: I think he's telling me Israeli. 395 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 3: Is it more. Victor Davis Hansen Why Trump won the 396 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four election, Coming. 397 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: Court Marble Fellas and then listen to the Michael Berry Show. 398 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: Good that. 399 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: The final segment of the show. 400 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: We don't normally do serious in the last segment of 401 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: the show, but today I wanted to get to this. 402 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: It's really good. 403 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 3: It's important that we understand why we won this election. 404 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: What did Gordon Bethoon say, Tell them what you're going 405 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: to do, do it, and then tell them what you did. 406 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: It's important that we own the narrative of why we 407 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: won this election. So this will be our Saturday podcast. 408 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 3: You won't get to hear it all here on the show, 409 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: but this Saturday's podcast we Victor Davis Hansen's why Trump 410 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: won the twenty twenty four election, And here you go. 411 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 4: We know, of course that he he doesn't like the 412 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 4: leader of North Korea very much, refers to him as 413 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 4: a little rocketman. Little Rocketman appears to be supplying mercenaries 414 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 4: and quite substantial numbers to Russia. I would imagine Trump 415 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 4: will be onto that one very quickly. 416 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 2: I think so he was last time. Even there, though, 417 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: he confounded the left. The left started out saying that 418 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: he was too mean, he was too reckless. When he 419 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: said my button's bigger than yours. He came in where 420 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 2: North Korea was just being a very useful bulldog that 421 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: the China master cut loose and caused havoc, and then 422 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: China kind of chuckled about it. And when they started 423 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: threatening to send missiles into the West Coast, Trump was 424 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: alarmed and said, I have a bigger button than you do, 425 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 2: and we can do the same thing to you, and 426 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 2: ours will work. He said, ours will work. The left 427 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: went crazy, and then he did what everybody who read 428 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 2: any of his books or followed his career knew he 429 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: would do. He wrote a letter to North Korea and said, 430 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 2: this is not in your interest to be on the 431 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 2: wrong side of my administration. I'm willing to talk. They talked, 432 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: and then he did exactly what he wrote about in 433 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: his books. He said, I like mister Kim Jong Oon. 434 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: We can cut a deal. I didn't find him to 435 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 2: be a monster. If you read anything he wrote about 436 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: That's what he always said. When you make a deal, 437 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: you do not insult your opposition, and then when you 438 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: make the deal, you make sure you get an advantage. 439 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: And then after the deal is over, you did not 440 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: privately ridicule him, that you praise him to the skies, 441 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 2: And that's exactly what he does. So I would imagine 442 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: that he would tell Kim Jong un in stage one, 443 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 2: what you're doing is unacceptable. If you keep doing it, 444 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: it's going to end badly for you. Then stage two 445 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: is I'm willing to make a deal, and then make 446 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: some kind of deal and then praise Kim John un. 447 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 2: And that's where the left came in and said, look 448 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: at this, he's praising a dictator, even though he had 449 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: They had just told us that he's deliberately antagonizing a dictator. 450 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: They had no idea, the motives, operandi of how he works. 451 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: But it was working, and it worked with Putin, and 452 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: it worked with Chi and we didn't have a war, 453 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 2: and it worked with the radical Islamases. As soon as 454 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: he did this, he said, Iran is an outlaw nation. 455 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 2: He killed Solomani. No one even dared to do that. 456 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: He bombed the crap, he said, out of Isis. And 457 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: then he Iran called him up and said, you've made 458 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: US look ridiculous. And Trump said, well, I'm about ready 459 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: to hit you. And they said, can we send sixteen 460 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 2: or seventeen missiles over to you in Iraq and Syria 461 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 2: and get close to your base. We'll tell you the 462 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: time and the location. Put everybody in and it'll say it. 463 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: So he said, yeah, as long as you don't kill 464 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: one American. If you kill one American, we're going to 465 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: send a salvo. So there was some disagreement. The military 466 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: felt some people suffered shell shock from the but he 467 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: the Ranians basically did what they said they were going 468 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 2: to do it. It was a put timpkin attack. And 469 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: then Trump didn't cause a war, but Iran behaved, and 470 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: then he puts sanctions on and yet they criticized them 471 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: for that. They said he was provoking a war with Iran. 472 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: And then when Iran didn't do anything and back down, 473 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: and they said, well, they send missiles in and he 474 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: didn't reply to them. He didn't care about America. So 475 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: we got to the point whatever he did they were 476 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: going to criticize, but it all had utility, and they 477 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: haven't come up with any formula solution that improved on 478 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: his own. And as soon as he left, the world 479 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: fell apart, It really did. 480 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 4: What does bring us to presidency? There's a general view 481 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 4: in many quarters at the next four or five years, 482 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 4: in other words, during the next presidential term, well, it's 483 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 4: the most dangerous time. 484 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: Of all the warnings that they married. 485 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 4: The Chinese military's being told to be ready by twenty 486 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 4: twenty seven to take Taiwan by force it necessary. I 487 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 4: would imagine that Trump's reelection is hardly being welcomed in 488 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 4: Beijing today. 489 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: No, it is not welcomed. And of course on the 490 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: far right, there was always a conspiracy theory because of 491 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: the lab nique that people felt. I don't subscribe to that, 492 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: but is a sign of what the right thought of China. 493 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: They felt that the cold COVID that originated in China 494 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: was somehow connected to the Chinese fear of dom frump 495 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: and wanting them out. When in November of twenty nineteen 496 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: and was almost sure that he was going to be 497 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: re elected, he was ahead of the polls. He would 498 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: have been re elected if it had not been for 499 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: COVID and the lockdown, and then the George Floyd ryots, 500 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: which I think in themselves were a result of the lockdown, 501 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: their intensity. So China realizes that for all the talk 502 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: about their they are ascendant, and they are all powerful, 503 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: and they have a bigger military. They still have. I 504 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: think in most economists will agree that they still have 505 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: only about seventy to eighty percent of our GDP. They 506 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: have four times the population, and of very crude form nations. 507 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: That takes four Chinese workers to approximate seventy percent of 508 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: what one worker does in the United States, we're a 509 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: very productive society and in many areas, for all of 510 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: the Chinese stealing and copying, we're much more pre eminent. 511 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: And under Trump, I think China will be faced with 512 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: a lot of things that is going to bother them. 513 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: They have over three hundred thousand students come here. Most 514 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: people think two or three percent are actively engaged in espionage. 515 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to continue. I think that 516 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: they have a lot of asim metrical tariffs. They know that. 517 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: I think for everyone, Trump will try to outdo their tariffs. 518 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,479 Speaker 2: Not a blanket tariff, but a tit for tat. I 519 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,719 Speaker 2: think he will tell the Chinese, if you go and 520 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: bully the Taiwanese, or the Philippines or any of our 521 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: more prominent allies. We have ways of retaliate against you, 522 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: and we will do that, and we wish you wouldn't 523 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: do that. The thing about it so strange is that 524 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: under prior Republican administrators candidates that believed in the same 525 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: theory of deterrence as Trump, there was kind of a 526 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: bragadaccio that was different than Trump's. They actually would kind 527 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: of brag that we want to get and go to 528 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: war with them or something. Trump talks a great game, 529 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: but he does not want to destroy relations with China 530 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: or any of our adversaries. He just wants to remind 531 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: them that they have overreached and what they're doing is 532 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: not in their own interest and they will stop it. 533 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: But he doesn't really want to go to war. And 534 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: there's no idea of going into Iraq or Afghanistan or 535 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: bombing Libya like Hillary did to create some type of utopia. 536 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: He doesn't have any dreams like that. It's all Jacksonian 537 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: and he wants to protect the Western world. And when 538 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: I go to Europe, it's very bizarre John to hear 539 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: people who are going to be beneficiaries of Trump's foreign 540 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: policy damn him and then praise people who would not 541 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: lift a finger to help Europe in a crisis, or 542 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 2: would you know what Trump said to the Germans. You're 543 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: playing with fire with a Norseterm pipeline number two, and 544 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: you're heavily dependent on natural gas, and we better stop 545 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 2: that for your own of the