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Speaker 1: the questions Bill, a little bit of why question? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: All right, before we get into talking about your team.

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Speaker 1: Most people around the NFL were pretty surprised that Andrew

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Speaker 1: Unusual in that, yes, he's had injury problems, but he

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Speaker 1: of why guys just call it quits. Oh yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: Each situation is different, each player is different each so, um,

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Speaker 1: All right, well, this is as you know, the NFL

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