1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: The rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray Murry, you there. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: You love sandwiches? Huh, Let's go to eighty. It was 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: bo wow that Prime Time. Maybe I had a crush 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: on Betty Rubbell. 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black. 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: He caught them the game last night, although they won 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: the game. You're listening to to Gotson Company. 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: It is to Godson Company presented by Vanduel and. 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: The FanDuel Sports book is Real Good Air. 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: As mikey a on Zoom Taylor, I don't know where 14 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: he is Port Saint Lucie. 15 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: I think spring training Baseball. Hopefully he'll join us with 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: a live radio show today. Is he. 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: I have the exclusive thoughts I got him yesterday from 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: both Mike Gullick Junior and Taylor on their thoughts regarding 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: the NBA's All Star Weekend, and I want to see 20 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: if they're aligned with you and so first I will 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: not tell you what their thoughts were, But first I 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: would like to get your thoughts on the All Star 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: Game in general and if you have any thoughts on 24 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: the weekend. 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: Okay, So I know I told you before the weekend 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: that I had a flag football tournament this weekend and 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: it always happens on All Star Weekend lately. 28 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 4: Last year actually went to All Star Weekend, So I 29 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 4: missed a tournament. 30 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: But how'd I do? 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 3: Ye as frustrating team went to and one on round robin. Yeah, 32 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: and lost the first playoff game on Saturday morning. And 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: that's just the worst, Man, you lose, It's nine am 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: and you ain't got nothing else to do. 35 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I got something for you. Do it in the. 36 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 4: Postseason about that, I know. 37 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't won that thing in eleven years 38 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: and I'm so desperate to win another one. However, right 39 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: my watching of the tournament of the All Star Weekend 40 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: is kind of limited this weekend. So the first thing 41 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: I saw I was at an Anthony's Cold Fire Pizza 42 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: after a series of games on Saturday, and I looked 43 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: up and I was like, oh, the. 44 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: Dunk Contest is on. 45 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: It feels a little early for that, And then I realized, oh, yeah, 46 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: they moved everything up this year. I was like, that's 47 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: a good, good thing to do. Because those things lasted 48 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: way too late. A couple of things I saw. I 49 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: saw Jackson Hayes just go up for a regular dunk, 50 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: like a two handed dunk, right, which is a one 51 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: handed just not even from the free throw line, like 52 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: even if there was if there was a defender in 53 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: the paint. 54 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 4: It would have gotten blocked easily. 55 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: Like that's how bad of a dunk it was, Okay, yes, yes, 56 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: And then it was. 57 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: Like a putback dunk during a regular season game. 58 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 4: Just awful. 59 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: It's just awful. Even as an in game dunk, it'd 60 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: be like five, okay. And then I saw Keldon Johnson 61 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: and Carter Bryant go and Carter Bryant had this one. 62 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 3: All he had to do was just give me a 63 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: decent dunk. And he went like the entire time just 64 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: trying for this one. And I'm just like, my man, Like, 65 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: if anybody was trying to save this All Star or 66 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: Dunk contest, it's the guy who's half of his name 67 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: is Vince Carter, half of his name is Cochin Bryant. 68 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: You're meant to win this damn thing. Just give me 69 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: a dunk that can beat Kelden Johnson. 70 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: And he couldn't do it right and that, and when 71 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: I saw Kelden Johnson holding up the trophy, I was like, Man, 72 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 3: the Miami Heat have some sort of voodoo Overall Star 73 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: weekend because they have the most random dudes just win stuff. Yes, 74 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: Jason Capono win a three point shooting contest, Harold Minor 75 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: win a dunk contest, and now you've got Kelden Johnson 76 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: win the dunk contest. So I didn't even see the 77 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: three point shooting contest. I thought the headlines of Damian 78 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: Lillard winning it were fake because I was in it. Yeah, 79 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: it hasn't. He hasn't played a game all season. Won 80 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: the three point shooting contest. Wow, Dame God. Yeah, you 81 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: could almost say the same about Keldon Johnson. I don't 82 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: think he's played very much at all this season. Won 83 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: the dunk contest. So when we get to the All 84 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: Star Sunday, I watched about this much of it and 85 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: I'm holding my fingers about an inch apart. Yeah, And 86 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: it was all while Kawhi Leonard was going crazy for 87 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: thirty one points and I was like, Wow, this is 88 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: the greatest player of all time. 89 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: And that was pretty much my experience for the All 90 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: Star Weekend. 91 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: Wait, hold on a second, do you really feel like 92 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard is the greatest player of all time? 93 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: I mean I do not, but I do think that 94 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 3: if he was healthy his entire career, right, top three, 95 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: Like that's how disgusting this guy is. 96 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's fair. 97 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: I think that's if he was healthy his entire career, 98 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: which obviously he hasn't been. But I think most people 99 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: feel like if Kawhi had remained healthy, he probably has 100 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: I don't know, four to five. 101 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: Rings right, probably about the right number. 102 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's going down as one of the top 103 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: five NBA players. Is he has him in his top 104 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: three of all time? Mike, Yeah, you had something there. 105 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 106 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 5: I'm just wondering if this is finally going to be 107 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 5: the Dunk Contest that solves the Dunk contest problem, which 108 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 5: is every year we get some big stars that go, hey, 109 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 5: if you do the Dunk Contest next year to some 110 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 5: other star, and every year they go, you know what, 111 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 5: next year, we're gonna do it. Next year, we're gonna 112 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 5: do it, and then the next year comes and it's no, 113 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 5: they're not. 114 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: So so the problem with the Dunk Contest is Jackson Hayes. 115 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: And the problem with the dunk contest is I don't 116 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: know any of the names. They are fringe names, and 117 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: unless you're really paying attention to the NBA, I know 118 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: who Jackson Hayes is. He's not a guy that I 119 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: want to see in the dunk contest. You want to 120 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: see Izzy. I am not one for trying to regain 121 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: some sort of thing like the All Star Game and 122 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: change it and make it turn it into something that 123 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna love. I never loved it to begin with, 124 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: if I'm being honest. The All Star Game had some 125 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: cool moments when we were growing up. When I was 126 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: growing up in the eighties and nineties, you know, you 127 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: had Magic and Isaiah, and you had that All Star Game. 128 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: And you know when Magic, you know, tested positive and 129 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: announce the world that he was HIV positive, came back, 130 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: played in that All Star Game exchange with Isaiah Thomas 131 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: at center court. Magic had a big game one All 132 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: Star Game MVP. You're never gonna get a moment like 133 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: that again in an All Star Game. It took a 134 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: unique set of circumstances to create that, And so I 135 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: don't really care enough to sit around. 136 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: And discuss how we're gonna change the All Star Game. 137 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: But the dunk contest is a different animal, because that 138 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: thing was entertaining. Yeah, and as far as I'm concerned, 139 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: Jordan and Dominique dunking against each other was the All 140 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: Star Game. And so the problem is, and I agree 141 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: with Stephen A. Smith on this, he blamed Lebron James 142 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: for the demise of the dunk contest. The problem is 143 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: Lebron James. Those guys are unwilling to do it, and 144 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: then you had your left with Jackson Hayes and some 145 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: guy in the heat. 146 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: You know, but one player shouldn't be fully respect Like 147 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: I don't think that Lebron James should be free of 148 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: blame for this, Like he should get plenty of blame 149 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: for not being you know, the Michael Jordan of his 150 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: generation when it comes to the All Star Game, like 151 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: giving it some life. They also, you know, blame him 152 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: for playing hard when Kobe Bryant challenged him to go 153 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: one on one in the All Star Game and he 154 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 3: passed it, and he's just like, come on, man, that's 155 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: not what this is about. 156 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: And so you know that's when it's. 157 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: Also not about Lebron getting embarrassed by Kobe Bryant. 158 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: Zach wildly they called one of the greatest performers and 159 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: athletes of all time. Not competitive as a result of that. 160 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: But the dunk contest hasn't always been Jordan right that. 161 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: It can be somebody that's just one level below him 162 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: but still super tower. 163 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: It could be Vince Carter, it could be Tracy McGrady, 164 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: It could be guys like that. It doesn't have to 165 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: be Lebron James, just household names that you want to 166 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: see participate in some sort of dunk context. 167 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: I'll even sort of lower the floor for you. 168 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: It can be a name that maybe you've heard of, 169 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: but as long as they put an effort into the performance. Right, 170 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: Matt McClung, nobody knew who he was outside of real 171 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: basketball hoopers, right, real hoop heads. Yeah, when he came 172 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: out there, you could see he worked on his everything. 173 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: He worked on every dunk, he worked on the pattern, 174 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: the order of the dunks. You know, he worked on 175 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: every element of that execution. And it had people saying, Wow, 176 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: that was impressive, even though you know he might not 177 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: have even been the best athlete of the group. Now, 178 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: what if it was justin I know I say these guys' 179 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: names all the time, but hear me out. What if 180 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: it was twin versus twin men Thompson versus the sar 181 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: Thompson enough people would be like, Okay, I kind of 182 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: maybe heard of them, and then there's an element of intrigue, 183 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: intrigue and interest to it. And those are what people 184 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: say all the time. Two of the best athletes in 185 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: the league. 186 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: I want to see that a. 187 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: Couple of Thompson's cutting it up about that. Yeah, nicely, 188 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: I would be good with that. It doesn't need to 189 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: be superstars. It could just be fringe. It could be 190 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: players that start that we've heard of, that contribute to 191 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: their team that we care about in some sort of way. 192 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: It'd be nice to have a superstar, but just having 193 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: players we've heard of, not Jackson Hayes participating in the 194 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: Dunk Contest. 195 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: You know, it would have been nice to have a 196 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: z Eion in there. Even before he you know, lost 197 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: the weight, was more of a crazy athlete to watch. 198 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: I think these days, when you you know, you lose 199 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: the Zions, you lose the ja morants, you start getting 200 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 3: those guys make think of that they're bigger than the 201 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: dunk contest. I don't think it's ever going to be recovered. 202 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: I don't think you're ever going to get those guys 203 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: going again. But you know, the All Star Game in itself, 204 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: I guess is better now, but it really didn't when 205 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: I watched Kawhi go crazy. That's why I stuck on 206 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: the channel because it was I was toggling between that 207 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: and curling, believe it or not, really and. 208 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 4: Kawhi is what kept me glued. 209 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: When the when the next game started and it was 210 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: clearly a little bit of a blowout and the young 211 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: guys were running away with it. 212 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 4: Switch back to curling, Stay Sweden. That was a battle. 213 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 6: No cheaters there in that match. 214 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: USA curling stands for cheating. 215 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 6: Canadian cheating, So the see in Canada. 216 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: The see in Canada stands for cheaters as well. Leave 217 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: Canada alone. I mean, Jesus Christ. 218 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: What would be the modern equivalent of JR. Ryder, who 219 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: was a good player, a fine player in the NBA, 220 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: but also a guy you look forward to participating in 221 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: the NBA dunk Contest. People need to realize the dunk contest, right, 222 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: I'll give you a time. 223 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 6: A good teammate. 224 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: People need to realize that Tom Chambers won this thing. 225 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: At one point, Tom. 226 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: Chambers, who was a great NBA player, were very good 227 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: NBA player, and that was enough for me. Like it's 228 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 2: never It doesn't have to be the best player in 229 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: the world. It just so happens that Michael Jordan was 230 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: what he participated in this. He was going up against 231 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: Dominique Wilkins, who was probably a top ten to fifteen 232 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: player in the NBA at the time. Isaiah Ryder won 233 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: that thing, Vince Carter won that thing. I think Tracy 234 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: McGrady won that thing. None of those guys were top 235 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 2: three players at the time in the NBA. 236 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, my answer is gonna go ahead and it's gonna 237 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: be Miles Bridges on the current day, JR. 238 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: Ryder at number two. No chance in hell Tom Chambers won, 239 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 4: and I'll start a dunk contest. 240 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: I believe he did. 241 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: I would have remembered Tom Chambers. 242 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 4: I dug contest. 243 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 2: Yes, for those of you who don't know Tom Chambers, 244 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: he was tall and white, he was Jackson Hay. 245 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: I do not think he won this nineteen eighty seven 246 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: dunk contest, and think, in fact, I think famously he 247 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: was in the dunk contest. That was a rematch. I 248 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: think a third rematch between MJ and Dominique Wilkins. Hey guy, right, yeah, 249 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: he finished seventh out of eight. 250 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: Well, I'm convinced he he was a runner up at 251 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: least one year. 252 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: He was the first white player to compete in the event, 253 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 3: but was eliminated in the first round after hitting the 254 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: room on one of his attempts. 255 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: He is Jackson Ayes, the original Jackson Hayes. Yes, oh 256 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: my god, all right, now I have to look it up. 257 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: I am convinced I saw Tom Chambers growing up. Maybe 258 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: he was an acid trip. I have no idea, but 259 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: I thought he won a dunk contest all about dunk 260 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 2: champion Tom. 261 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 6: Sure it wasn't a three point contest. 262 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: He could have been no way, now Tom Chambers is Well, 263 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: you look that up. 264 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: Tom Chambers' career highlight, and. 265 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: Frankly, it is one of my favorite basketball highlights of 266 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: all time. I've never actually told Mark Jackson this to 267 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: his face because it probably would embarrass him. But when 268 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: he climbed the ladder, that was Mark Jackson, and Mark 269 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 3: Jackson's head is just above Tom Chambers's knee as Mark 270 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: is about to dunk that he basically went up with 271 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: two hands and then went higher after he contacted Mark 272 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: Jackson of the New York Knicks on the ground and 273 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: had one of the most impressive dunks I've ever seen. 274 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 2: So I looked it up and it says clearly this 275 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: is a courtesy of AI Overview. 276 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: Tom Chambers was never an NBA Slam Dunk. 277 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: Contest champion, thank you, because that hit me as hard 278 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 3: a jarring as who is this today's JR. 279 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 4: Rider. 280 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: Yes, he did win All Star Game MVP in nineteen 281 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: eighty seven, just so you know what kind of player 282 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: Tom Chambers was. 283 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: Well, that's where you were confused. 284 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: It was the exact same weekend you remember Tom Chabers 285 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 3: holding up a trueh It was the MVP trophy, how 286 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: about you, dude? 287 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: But I remember guys like Terry Stansbury. 288 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: They win it, but they were exciting dunkers, and they 289 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: complimented the great players who were in those dunk contest 290 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: Look at is he he's so impressed. 291 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 4: I know who very impressive. 292 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: That's it was Stansbury, the one who did the sort 293 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: of spinning. 294 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: Yes, what's it called the Statue of Liberty dunk? 295 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: Right? 296 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's the way. 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The game was competitive, but 332 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: the only reason it was competitive is because a young 333 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: kid decided to stroll on the court and make it 334 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: important again and he actually gave max effort. 335 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: Is it possible that Victor Webbin Yama is too tall 336 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: to not try? 337 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 338 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: Like, if he's out there and just stands like this, 339 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: he's going to probably deflect at least half the passes 340 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: in an All Star game. Yeah, So it's just like 341 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: it's probably more difficult for me to not try than 342 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: it is for me to actually go out there and 343 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: play normal. And if he gives fifty percent effort with 344 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: that body and those guys who weren't really trying to 345 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: begin with, he's gonna look like he's giving one hundred 346 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: percent effort. So I think it was one of those deals. 347 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: It's just like which one's easier for me? And I 348 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: think for Victor it's easier for him to just play 349 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: basketball at like a fifty to sixty percent pace and 350 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: show up all those other All Stars. 351 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: Yes, we do have a stat of the day. We 352 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: have Treek Hill to get to. 353 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: We do have Mikey's reaction to some news that I 354 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: gave him earlier today. We'll get to all of that, 355 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: uh in just a second. So those guys I didn't 356 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: watch the All Star Game, Taylor, Mike Goulick Junior, they 357 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: felt like it was fixed simply because Wembin Yama tried. 358 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: I don't care about the All Star Game. I care 359 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: about the dunk contest, and I'm with stephen A. It's 360 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: Lebron's fault because if it's much like webmbin Yama going 361 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: out there and giving max effort. When you see him 362 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: doing it, chances are you're gonna meet his effort, right, 363 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: You're gonna meet it. Whatever it is that he's putting 364 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: into it, you're gonna feel the need to put something 365 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: into it. If Lebron James signed up for the Dunk Contest, 366 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: everyone else would fall in line. Now, I don't know 367 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: if I want to see Lebron. 368 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: Dunk at this advanced stage, so I'm talking, you know, 369 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: five six years ago. 370 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: But if a guy like Jalen Brown, let's say, or 371 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: Woman Yama got involved in the dunk Contest, I would 372 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: be excited. 373 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 3: To get you know, See, there's a name nobody's thought, 374 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 3: nobody's brought up before for the dunk contest, Vitama. 375 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 4: Like, I don't know how. I don't know what his 376 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 4: vertical leap actually is. 377 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 3: It probably isn't even that impressive, But I would love 378 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 3: to see him in the dunk contest. 379 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: Yes, what were you telling me with Kevin Durant? Like 380 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: you told me there was something going on with Durant. 381 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 2: I have no idea what's going on with Durant. I 382 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 2: only know what Taylor wrote for me, and we can 383 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: observations that I did yesterday, and it was something called 384 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 2: burner accounts, which is the least. 385 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: Shocking thing of all time with Kevin Dury. 386 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 4: This was the most interesting part of All Star weekend. 387 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: Is the fact that people seem to have all, right, 388 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: let me just get in front of this. 389 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 4: I don't believe it's Kevin Durant. 390 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't believe this is an exposed burner account, 391 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: but it is funny that it is a possibility and 392 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: probably a decent pass ability that it is him. And 393 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: according to the Internet, according to leakers, that this is 394 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: exposed DMS from a burner account of his. And there 395 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 3: are a lot of things that ties, you know in 396 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: terms of like how it's when it was started, and 397 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 3: you know what images are involved to it. Like there's 398 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: a lot of little detective work going around saying clearly, 399 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: this is Kevin Durant. And if you paid any sort 400 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: of attention to the beginning of the All Star Game before, 401 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: during introductions, during the layup line, Kevin Durant was on 402 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 3: his phone the entire time, and your only stew you're 403 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: on your phone all the time, right, It's usually because 404 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 3: you're either putting out fires or trying to settle something, 405 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: and that's exactly what it seemed like Kevin Durant was doing. Now, 406 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: you could easily say if it was not him, he 407 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: would be on his phone again putting out fire, saying, hey, 408 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 3: clearly that wasn't me. Let's figure out what's going on here. 409 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: But as a guy who has a history stew of 410 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: obviously having an exposed burner account saying that he's still 411 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 3: doing the burner account thing because those people on Twitter 412 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: don't deserve the freedom to not get called out for 413 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: what they say, right. But I mean, he's even asked 414 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 3: questions like, if you had to give up for the 415 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 3: rest of time, either Twitter or video games, what would 416 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 3: it be? And he said video games again, because he 417 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 3: needs to check people on Twitter. It's the most important 418 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: thing in his life. It feels like, Yes, And some 419 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: of these things that he said Stu were pretty crappy 420 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 3: stuff about his own teammates. 421 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: Really wow. 422 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: So he's on the rockets now, just so everyone knows, 423 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: in case you're just starting to pay attention to the FBA. 424 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: Go ahead, he's a Houston Rocket. 425 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: Yes, I learned how one of his teammates to Barr 426 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: Smith the R word he goes back to other teammates 427 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: talking about Kyrie, saying he thought that Luka Doncic would play. 428 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: He said the white European would play like ethical hoops 429 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: or something like that. He went, he's as far as saying, 430 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 3: I swear I miss Ben Simmons. At least he would 431 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 3: give me the ball. 432 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: It's all he did because he wouldn't shoot. 433 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 4: He said, if. 434 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 3: He put a meme of some guy looking confused, and 435 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 3: he said, this is I try to hold Steph accountable 436 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: in film meetings, and that's how everybody looked at me. 437 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 4: It's just a lot of stuff. 438 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: That seems a little two on the nose, even though 439 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: it's supposedly DMS. It's a little two on the nose 440 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: for me to believe that it's KD. But the fact 441 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: that he has this history had a lot of people 442 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: believing that it's him. And I would love to see 443 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 3: what that Houston locker room is like. I'm pretty sure 444 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: they're all just gonna say, ah, we know it wasn't 445 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: you don't worry about it. 446 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 4: Right in the back of their minds, they're just waiting 447 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 4: for him to say something. 448 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm certain Kyrie's already reached out and said it 449 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: was him, Steph Curry, Raymond Green as well, Hey it 450 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: is Durant. Let me remove any doubt. Okay, that is 451 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: actually Kevin Durant talking about you while playing on the 452 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: same team. If it is Kevin Durant, Okay, he's hanging 453 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: on to stuff, right. He feels like he he's never 454 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: going to get the credit he deserves for being one 455 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: of the all time great players in the NBA, to 456 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: which I would respond, Hey, that's on you, Kevin Durant 457 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: and the decisions that you made no one else. 458 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 4: I don't know if he'll ever admit that. 459 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 3: That is the core reason I think right now if 460 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: you ask him, he'd be like, no, even if you 461 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: ask him, because I think he's even sort of denied 462 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: the idea that in Golden State he was jealous of 463 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 3: Steph Curry's affection from the fans that he didn't get Like, 464 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 3: I think he's implied that, but I think it's more 465 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: of a joke, like, of course, they're going to love 466 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: the two light skinned boys who were there longer than 467 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 3: I was, Like just to speaking. 468 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: Now, they're gonna love the guys who won a championship 469 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 2: before you even got there. 470 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 4: That's it. 471 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: The affection you're looking for, you're earning for, was in 472 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: Oklahoma City and you left them. 473 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: I mean right. 474 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: But the thing I think that Kevin Durant is longing 475 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: for is just for people to see the full picture, 476 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: like I think he would love for that. 477 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 4: He speaks like a guy. 478 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 3: Who, outside of burner accounts, has nothing to hide, right, 479 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 3: Like if you pull back the curtain of everything in 480 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 3: his career, his life, it's just like, look at me. 481 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: I work hard, I stay out of trouble, probably smoke 482 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: too much weed. 483 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 4: And yeah I talk shit about my teammates. 484 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 3: That's the one thing that you could get me on 485 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 3: is or not teammates, just people in the league in general. 486 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: But he wants to come across as the guy who 487 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: keeps it the most real, right, But he knows that 488 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: if he does that publicly, then he just looks like 489 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: a full time jerk. And so it's just it feels 490 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: like him just trying to fight his own instincts and 491 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: he's losing the battle. 492 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I agree with that. I do also, don't 493 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 2: leave Oklahoma City. Also, stop enough with Golden State. Man, 494 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: they were laughing at you when you agree to join 495 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: that team because they didn't need you, and so you're 496 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: never gonna get People are just never gonna. 497 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: View him the way he probably should be viewed. 498 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 4: That's it. 499 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: I think he's only a great offensive players in the NBA, 500 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: unlike any we've ever seen. 501 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: Probably it's crazy. 502 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 3: I think in the long term he's going to have 503 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: his proper credit. I think people are going to I 504 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 3: think the longer we go without seeing another player like him, 505 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: you know, the seventh foot just absolute natural scorer, the 506 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: more the myth of him is going to grow. And 507 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: I think the longer we get away from that eighteen nineteen, seventeen, 508 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 3: eighteen nineteen Warriors team and the more we get into 509 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: this parody phase of the NBA. 510 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 4: The more we're going to say, yeah, that might have 511 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 4: been the greatest team of all time. 512 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 2: We have some Bill Barnwell trades to break down. Proposed 513 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: trades from Bill Barnwell. I've passed. Yeah, well, now listen, 514 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 2: these are trades that could happen. I trust Barnwell and 515 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 2: I need football plus to Reek kill level. What were 516 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: your thoughts? Is he quickly here? We were supposed to 517 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: have Jeff passing on. We do have some big news. 518 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: I delivered that news to mikey A. He gave me 519 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 2: a response. We'll try to recreate that phone call. It's 520 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: set number two of Steatson Company. We were supposed to 521 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: have pass in pass and called me. He said, listen, 522 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I need to reschedule. Big news is breaking. 523 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: I'll tell tell you about that just a second. But 524 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: is he Tareek Hill no longer with the Dolphins. Released 525 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: by the Dolphins. He's an unrestricted free agent, could sign 526 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: wherever he wants. Predictably, he sends out on Twitter the 527 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: Cheetah will be back, of course, what else is he 528 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: gonna say? Your thoughts on Tarik Kill the Dolphins? I 529 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: think no one's surprised the Dolphins release Tareek Hill. 530 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: The rebuilding retooling, too, is going to be next. 531 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: Treek Hill's certainly one of the most exciting players in 532 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: Dolphins history and NFL history. I'm interested in whether or 533 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: not Treek Hill can get back to where he was 534 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: two years ago, which was the most feared player offensive 535 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: player in the NFL, because if he can get back 536 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: to that or somewhere close to that, someone is going 537 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: to get a big time talent here during the off season. 538 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 539 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: So I'll start with the Dolphins part of that first, 540 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 3: because I find it funny that people talk about the 541 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel era or the call of the Tyreek Hill 542 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: era or the most recent era of Dolphins football, which 543 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: what did that last? 544 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 4: Was it four years? Five years? 545 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: So that what's happening right now, what's currently finishing off 546 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 3: with the Mike McDaniel era and the Chris crew era 547 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: is just part of the longer era. Like after Dave 548 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: Wantstett left the Dolphins, which I want to say, was Mikey, 549 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: can you check this for me? 550 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 4: Like two thousand and seven eight? 551 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it was one actually maybe two thousand and one, 552 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 3: somewhere in that range. Like that's when that era of 553 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 3: Dolphins football was over. It was like the bridge from 554 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: Marino Jimmy Johnson to Dave wants Debt where they're a 555 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: team that you know, every year would start off hot yeap, 556 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 3: fade in December, yes, and maybe win one playoff game. 557 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: Like that was our living. That was how we lived. Mikey, 558 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: what year was it the Dave want Dolphins? 559 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 6: He was fired in Week nine of two thousand and four. 560 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: So that was the end of it, right that. 561 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: After that because we haven't I say, we still haven't 562 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: won a playoff. 563 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 4: Game this generation. 564 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 3: Okay, it's been since two thousand and one, so that's 565 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 3: an entire generation of fans born went through school, college, 566 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: have a kid maybe who have never been alive for 567 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 3: a Dolphins playoff game. 568 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: That's the same era. 569 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter who's coaching, it doesn't matter who's GM, 570 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what the final result is because it's 571 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: always the same either no playoffs and you're horrible, or 572 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: mid and you lose in the first round. And so 573 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 3: all this is is just an extension of that. All 574 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: this is is just the latest, you know, ever, And 575 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 3: I don't think people realize how frustrating it used to be, 576 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 3: even when it was the Dave Wanston and Jimmy Johnson air, 577 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 3: because like I said, it would always be like nineteen 578 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 3: ninety six and one, eight and one, fizzle down the 579 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: stretch five hundred losing a playoff game, eight and oh 580 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 3: on the next year, fizzle down the stretch five and 581 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 3: five losing a second round. And it's like, at least 582 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 3: we had that, right And so with the last twenty 583 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 3: five years, like I am so numb to this Tyreek 584 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: Hill Dolphins coaching change, Jophins GM regime chanmee so numb 585 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: to it, which is why I was so excited, like 586 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 3: Pete so high during that whatever six week stretch of 587 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 3: that season where you know, the highlight was scoring seventy 588 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: on the Denver Broncos. And that's why that felt so 589 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 3: incredible for such a short period of time, because this 590 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 3: has been twenty five years of this so long story short, 591 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: it's probably too late. 592 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 4: Just wake me up when we're good again. I don't 593 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 4: know what it's gonna require. 594 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, Mike, you put that on the ball. 595 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: Wake me up when we're good again. 596 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: Yes or no? 597 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: Man, Jeff, fans have been sleeping for a long time, so. 598 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but is he You have to sit through it, 599 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: like the pain is what ultimately is gonna make the 600 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: winning feel good. I've been telling myself that, trying to 601 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: justify why I sit down and watch this Jet team 602 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: every single Sunday, and I've been doing so for forty years. 603 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: It's because eventually they'll stumble into some sort of winning. 604 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: And when they do, and they have back to back 605 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: AFC championship games, those games, the playoff games, the divisional games, Oh, 606 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: they felt good because I sat through the ship is 607 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: he you know? 608 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 4: You know I'm currently sitting in it. 609 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: And yeah, but I wasn't telling anyone wake me up. 610 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 2: I was up and I was watching. I mean, they 611 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: were putting me to sleep, but I was up, but 612 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: I was watching. 613 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: Well, I will say this, My super Bowl logo theory 614 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 3: is falling straight to ship. 615 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: Do you remember the conspiracy theory? 616 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 4: Not anymore? Now, what are you gonna do? 617 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: Whin youers have to work with the logo? Change what happened. 618 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: They got rid of Tyreek Hill all that they're clearly rebuilding. 619 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: So this is not going to be a surprise super 620 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: Bowl year for a team that might win two games. 621 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 4: The Chiefs are going to get him, right, They can't. 622 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 4: They can't resist that Patriots. 623 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 3: Maybe I don't see Tyreek Hill as a guy going 624 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: back to that, especially when he's not sure. I mean, 625 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: nobody's really sure about Patrick Mahomes' recovery. 626 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 4: I think he's going to be just fine. 627 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: But I think he'll probably go to someplace where he 628 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: can be top target and you know, try to get 629 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 3: those numbers up and have a renaissance season after his injury. 630 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 3: I think that's probably more important to him than winning 631 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 3: another Super Bowl. 632 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: I go to Buffalo if I'm him, That's where I'd go, 633 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: because you want to be the guy that says, hey, 634 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: I'm the reason Josh Allen won a super Bowl. You 635 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: know I won one with Mahomes. I want one with 636 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: Josh Allen if I'm him, because you're right. Everything you 637 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: just said is exactly right. You cannot have any sort 638 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 2: of confidence. I don't care if you speak to Patrick 639 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: Mahomes every day. You can't have any sort of confidence 640 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: that Mahomes is going to bounce back, be healthy and 641 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: if he is going to be the same quarterback he 642 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: was before he got injured. You just and you know 643 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,239 Speaker 2: Josh Allen is. And so if I'm Treek Hill, That's 644 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: where I'm going. 645 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: I was wondering what would be like the the deciding 646 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: factors for Tyreek Hill, and I think top of his list. 647 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 3: And this is why Buffalo makes sense way taller quarterback, 648 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: taller than to get somebody who can see me down there, 649 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: yeah and not have to just launch it up because 650 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: he thinks I'm down there. 651 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 4: I think Josh Allen might be the right answer. 652 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, coming up in an hour two here, 653 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: No Jeff passing, but Mikey's reaction to news I delivered 654 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: to him and an incredible, just incredible stat of the day. 655 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: Plus we break down trades that didn't happen. 656 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: Wow, who needs yet