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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 1: What is up straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight

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Speaker 1: Fire for Wednesday, October eleventh, little midweek juice here on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. We got a crappy Thursday night football game

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Speaker 1: with Denver and Casey. The Slate Sunday is borderline incredible.

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Speaker 1: I am absolutely loving it. I mean, I don't even

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Speaker 1: know where to start. Seahawks Bengals game has some spice.

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by Chargers and Cowboys and the Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: revenge game. I am interested in the McDaniel's Belichick elimination game.

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Speaker 2: Can we call it that?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, rob if it feels like the loser

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Speaker 1: that one's done, although you could argue the Patriots are

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Speaker 1: already done and for the first time really this season,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna see multiple games possibly impacted by whether If

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Speaker 1: you are the kind who is using an app or

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Speaker 1: looking at the gambling lines every day like I am,

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Speaker 1: multiple times, you're noticing the totals are coming down.

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Speaker 2: That has a lot to do with weather.

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Speaker 1: But I kind of wanted to spend today just dive

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Speaker 1: into this topic because given dak struggles against the Niners,

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Speaker 1: and dak Is still waiting for a contract, given the

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Speaker 1: early struggles of Bryce Young, just given the uncertainty at

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Speaker 1: quarterback play. I mean, listen, you guys, look around the league.

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Speaker 1: Some of these primetime games have been ghastly. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback play around the league just seems to be dipping.

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Speaker 1: And in a year where we have a good quarterback

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Speaker 1: class projected for twenty twenty four, and some things still

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Speaker 1: may fall aside and some players may tumble down the

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Speaker 1: boards a little bit, it feels like this is one

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Speaker 1: of those years wherein you when you drill down and

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Speaker 1: you go through all thirty two teams, how many teams

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Speaker 1: have a franchise quarterback right now? And I went through

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Speaker 1: all the teams and Rob and I will do this, folks.

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Speaker 1: The answer right now with franchise quarterbacks is nine.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Now, I broke them into five different lists. I've got

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Speaker 1: have a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That's nine.

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Speaker 1: I've got probably the guy, and there's four in that section.

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Speaker 1: Now that one's really dicey. It's gonna tick some people off.

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Speaker 2: Just be patient.

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Speaker 1: And then I have the middle ground, the ugly middle,

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Speaker 1: the worst place to be, whether it's the NBA, the NFL.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to be in the middle.

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Speaker 1: You're not good enough to get a high draft pick,

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Speaker 1: and you're maybe good enough to keep a coach who's middling,

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Speaker 1: and maybe you get in the wildcard round and it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. You're there, but you're not You're not

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Speaker 1: like a threat to win the Super Bowl. And there

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Speaker 1: that's for now. He's all we've got. It's like a

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Speaker 1: stop gap until we find our franchise guy. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of those. Then there's probably not the guy, and

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Speaker 1: then there's please send help. I'll just get the please

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Speaker 1: send help out of the way early. It's only three teams. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's the Jets, Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 2: We don't know if Aaron Rodgers is coming back.

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Speaker 1: He can talk to talk. We have no clue, but

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Speaker 1: please send help. Is the Jets and Zach Wilson, obviously

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Speaker 1: the Giants and Daniel Jones and the Patriots and Mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: please send help like they're in dire streets. But I

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Speaker 1: do want to go to the top and Rob and

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Speaker 1: I will go back and forth quickly on this, and

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Speaker 1: you know, franchise quarterback. It's one thing to have a

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Speaker 1: top ten quarterback. It's another to have a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: For me, a franchise quarterback means we're set. I go

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Speaker 1: to sleep at night. I don't have to worry about

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Speaker 2: I don't have to worry. We got a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We just got to figure out the rest. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward three five seven years.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now I add three five seven years, because, like

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Speaker 1: you know, franchise quarterback means he's your guy for a while.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking the likes of Aaron Rodgers and green Bay

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Speaker 1: And I'll start with one that Rob doesn't love. But

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Speaker 1: You're building around them. You either paid them or you're

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Speaker 1: still have a franchise quarterback, Raven's Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: They just signed him. He is the guy.

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Speaker 1: He's not the problem in Baltimore that they haven't broken through.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals Joe Burrow, done deal. Jacksonville Jags Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: haven't paid him. He's the guy, trust me. Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers Brock Purty. He is a

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Speaker 2: He's their guy. They're not looking for a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They moved up in the draft to get Trey Lance.

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Speaker 1: They saw what two years of Trey Lance, they saw

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Speaker 2: Trey Lance. Brocks our guy.

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Speaker 1: They've identified him. They got their solid backup in Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 1: They moved off Lance. Rock Party is a franchise guy

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Speaker 1: for Sam Franz and the final guy, And this one

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff was kind of washed in LA He just

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Speaker 1: He goes to Detroit, he plays pretty well, then he struggles.

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Speaker 1: Like Jared Goff is their guy. Now I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: But for now, Rob, I've got him in.

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Speaker 1: We have a franchise quarterback, like the Detroit Lions are

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Speaker 3: I mean, I understand the sentiment. It's something I personally

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Speaker 3: obviously have more than enough to win, especially in a

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Speaker 3: the best pass rusher in that conference. And that's including

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Speaker 3: guys like Michael Parsons and Nick Bosa. I've read on

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Speaker 3: Tuesday Afternoon that he actually leads the NFL in pressures

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Speaker 3: the weapons. Ima Ross Saint Brown is a stud. Jamison

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Speaker 3: seeing this list. Ultimately, it's gonna come down to the

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Speaker 1: The good news for Lions fans is the schedule's tough

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Speaker 1: Had this as four and we got two rookies in here.

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Speaker 1: Stroud come on five games, probably the guy. Listen, you're

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Speaker 1: The injuries, obviously you're gonna throw some consternation for Colts fans,

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Speaker 1: get to the next category, Rob, for now, he's all

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Speaker 1: Next up, Bryan Tannehill. I don't think he's long for Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott. If Jerry Jones decides after another postseason flame

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Speaker 3: out that you know, he's just not the guy regardless

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Speaker 3: of what I've been telling everyone on the fan in

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Speaker 3: Dallas and what I tell the people here in the newspapers,

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Speaker 3: he could be a guy that is available to a

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Speaker 3: team like the Lions. You know, who knows what Aaron

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Speaker 3: Rodgers with the Jets. You know that feels like, hey,

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Speaker 3: if we're a quarterback away, if our quarterback is even average,

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Speaker 3: the slightly above average, we can make some serious noise

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Speaker 3: and those two guys, Kirk Cousins Dak Prescott, have shown

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Speaker 3: that even if they're not elite quarterbacks, you can win

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Speaker 3: a high number of games with those guys at the helm.

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Speaker 3: If you have the right pieces around them, you can

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Speaker 3: make some noise in whatever conference you're playing in. And

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Speaker 3: those are the two that I agree with you in

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Speaker 3: the way you have him tiered out as probably the

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Speaker 3: guy or that's all we got. I agree with that.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if they're long for the team

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Speaker 1: know how, sometimes, like in in coaching, it's like, do

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Speaker 1: you want to go from being an offensive coordinator to

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Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator?

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Speaker 2: Again? Like, is that a lateral move?

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Speaker 1: Is the next move to head coach? I wonder if

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Speaker 1: going from golf to Dak Prescott is that a lateral move.

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Speaker 1: Goff has more playoff wins he won in with the Rams, obviously.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's interesting. I hadn't really thought of it.

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Speaker 3: Definitely feels like it would be a lateral move to me.

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Speaker 3: I think of those three guys, Goff, Dak, and Cousins,

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Speaker 3: I would have Cousins first. I think he's shown that

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Speaker 3: he's the better passer of the three.

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Speaker 2: Well Cousins with an offensive line. Holy hell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It just it really depends on how things, you know,

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Speaker 3: shake out here the rest of the season with Detroit

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Speaker 3: and Dallas and whether or not they falter relative to expectations,

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Speaker 3: Because I think we can all agree that Minnesota's going nowhere,

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Speaker 3: and it's really up to Kirk Cousins at this point

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Speaker 3: with his no trade clause if he's looking to go

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Speaker 3: somewhere else. But those two, Yeah, it's TBD.

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Speaker 1: All right, So there's the fourth or fifth categories. We

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Speaker 1: already covered the dead last one, please send help. Probably

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Speaker 1: not the guy. This may be harsh. Probably not the guy.

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Speaker 1: Can he Pickett in Pittsburgh. He's I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I got fooled, folks by the preseason. I got fooled.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: At the end of last year, Jordan Love, Rob g's

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Speaker 1: favorite new guy after Monday Football, Jordan Love, who probably.

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Speaker 2: Not the guy.

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Speaker 1: Listening he's been with the ORG for three years. We're

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Speaker 1: five games in. It's like, I mean, you give him

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Speaker 1: a little more room, but probably not the guy. Justin

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Speaker 1: Fields in Chicago like nice moments, feels like, listen, they

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Speaker 1: got their pick in Carolinas.

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Speaker 2: You gotta go quarterback like Fields, Probably not the guy.

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Speaker 1: And then finally Sam Howell and Washington, who one week

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Speaker 1: looks like, hey, what do we got here? In the

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Speaker 1: next week is like, oh, we don't have anything. So again,

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Speaker 1: but Rob, I just outlined thirty two teams. What does

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Speaker 1: it say about the state of the league that over

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Speaker 1: half the league has questions about quarterback and long term

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Speaker 1: Now this I'm sure this is the same deal that

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Speaker 1: happens most years, but it's got to be just a

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Speaker 1: bummer to not know about your future because the quarterback

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Speaker 1: plays so bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of it goes back. So let

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Speaker 3: we talked about earlier in the week, is that all

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Speaker 3: of the rules and all of the way the style

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Speaker 3: of play has shifted here in the last five six years,

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Speaker 3: our geared towards the offense, specifically for high end quarterback play.

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Speaker 3: And it's fitting that the teams that you mentioned at

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Speaker 3: the top have a franchise quarterback. Chargers, Bills, Chiefs, Ravens, Bengals, Jaguars,

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Speaker 3: Eagles definitely, and then to be determined on Niners, Lions.

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Speaker 3: But those first seven absolutely win because of their quarterback.

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Speaker 3: They have other pieces around them, obviously, like the Eagle's

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Speaker 3: got a great offensive line. The Chiefs quietly have a

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Speaker 3: good defense this season. The Ravens have always been upround defensively,

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Speaker 3: but everything they do from the roster outward is built

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Speaker 3: around the skill set of their quarterback. The Eagles offense

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Speaker 3: does not work if they don't have the threat of

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hursts running the football the way that they do right.

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Speaker 3: The Baltimore Ravens offense is not work with those receivers

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Speaker 3: and that Hodge Podge running back group. It were not

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Speaker 3: for Lamar Jackson and his explosive ability run in the

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Speaker 3: football and throwing the deep ball. Same thing Herbert, you know,

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Speaker 3: Allen and Patrick Mahomes. Those guys, it doesn't really matter

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Speaker 3: who you have around them. It feels like they're gonna

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Speaker 3: be successful in some form or fashion. Everybody else.

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Speaker 2: You need the.

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Speaker 3: Right chemistry around them. You need the right fit, the

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Speaker 3: right pieces. And that's why I believe there's not thirty

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Speaker 3: two guys who are upper echelon. Put me with anyone

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna make it work. There's too many that

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Speaker 3: most of the league most years, especially now. You need

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Speaker 3: a good running game, you need a good defense, You

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Speaker 3: need a high and wide receiver to mask your quarterbacks deficiencies.

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Speaker 3: And I think that that's why, to your point, two

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Speaker 3: thirds of the league is to be determined on their

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Speaker 3: quarterback situation.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like in the NBA, like how many

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Speaker 1: number ones are there, Like, you know, Dame Lillard was

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Speaker 1: the number one.

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Speaker 2: We gave him a chance.

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Speaker 1: He's not a one with Portland. Now can he go

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Speaker 1: to Milwaukee be a two? Hell?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know Anthony Davis tried to be a one in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. I was like, he's better two to Lebron

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Speaker 1: in LA.

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Speaker 2: So why does this matter in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: Well, look at the primetime situation. Most primetime games have

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Speaker 1: been blowouts and one sided this year. Why because the

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Speaker 1: quarterback plays lopsided? Like going into the season. San Fran

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Speaker 1: Dallas supposed to be an awesome game. Dak Prescott three interceptions,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love and Jared Goff. That's a couple thursdays ago.

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Speaker 1: I mean, game was total garbage because love stinks Monday

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Speaker 1: night football.

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Speaker 2: Love stinks this Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, we thought he was gonna be good. Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, double digits spread. I just looked at

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Speaker 1: Sunday at football, Rob Are you ready it's the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants and the Buffalo Bills to spread fourteen. Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones neck injury. Who knows, but it doesn't matter because

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Speaker 1: he stinks. And then you look at Monday and you

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Speaker 1: got Dak and you got Justin Herbert, and again it's

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Speaker 1: like geez, I mean, is this gonna be another blowout?

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Speaker 1: You just start looking at these games and they try

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Speaker 1: to put the best quarterback matchups in primetime, and because

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Speaker 1: there aren't enough good quarterbacks to go around, makes life

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Speaker 1: kind of tough. So that's it for today's short pod,

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Speaker 1: just quarterback centric. We have our special guests coming up tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll go back to an NFL guest Thursday

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Speaker 1: for NFL Picks Off the Five and oh, I gotta

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Speaker 1: bring it back.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, I'm out