1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: Okay, a firm shares are down around thirteen percent, put 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: in them on track for their biggest drop since October 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: after the buy now, Pay Later Companies twenty twenty four 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: forecast the annual transaction volume slightly missed estimates. Please to 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: say a firm CEO max leftin joins us now and 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: that seems to be the pretty micro focused max the 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: forecast for transaction volume. Should the street be concerned about that? 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: Now? I'm great, I can't. I can't give the street 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: that credit. What's over. 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: We've had it absolutely blowout order every number, a top 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: to bottom increase our estimates or biguring forward and are 13 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: showing your signed up slowing down or because or ABM. Sorry, 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: I'd rarely argue with the market, but the team too hard, 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: accomplished too much, too well. 16 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: Indioking, we're just showing the highlights from the court had gone. 17 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: And you know, top line you beat considerably, matching what 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: the street expected from a loss per share. What was 19 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: the biggest factor on that top line growth of all 20 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: of the different products you're now offering. 21 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: I think across the board we did extremely well. We 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: posted just really strong party season. Our partners chopped by 23 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: or a large contributor to our growth of pacing the 24 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: average hard and detailing. We bragged about one hund thousand 25 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: active part bolders our November in Ust event on need 26 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: to show that we have some one hundred thousand patches 27 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: right now. There's a there's quite a lot of things 28 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: that contributed to the growth Football role company. 29 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: That's just across the board. We did well. 30 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: Can I dig in a bit more on the gross 31 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: merchandise volume and value? And I mean, ultimately you call 32 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 4: it out in your earnings and you said, we've posted 33 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 4: the fastest year over year GMV growth rate in over 34 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 4: a year. And you're basically saying, look, we can show 35 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: how we operate our business with excellence. Then give you 36 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 4: this moment to speak to an investor in an analyst 37 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 4: community that is saying, look, they're slightly worried about what 38 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 4: they think is a GMV deceleration for the second half 39 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: fiscal second half of twenty twenty four. You say, it's 40 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 4: the guidance is the flaw? What more can you say 41 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: to an investor base that for some reason is determining 42 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: this as a slowdown and they're worried. 43 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: Now, I think the best wage in speak for investors 44 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: is about posting more results a arm of. 45 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: Trust. 46 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: Be I'm mat at Kirk's always met with great skepticism. 47 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: So we'll just continue post results. The results for last 48 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: for more than speaks themselves, flow out, growth, share on 49 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: It's the exact number that we were getting bored as 50 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: looks gunning. 51 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: We're better at better coperties. That gets the blower and 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: we don't want to. 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: Teach our guidance strategy at all, like me, are going 54 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: to age ours love well. 55 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 4: A lot of anists can see that truest securities Andrew 56 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: Jeffrey saying that we'll be a surprise by the magnitude 57 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: of the slow down. Bloomberg Intelligence also saying that they 58 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: don't see They see momentum and they don't see this 59 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: sort of slow down. So tell us about momentum and 60 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 4: ultimately about a US consumer that feels rubbish about the economy, 61 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 4: but the economy still continues to go incredibly Well, what 62 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 4: are you seeing from a determination to spend and to 63 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: spend with you? 64 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: So the pure wallet across our many day partners is 65 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: generally in creating and very happy about that. 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: Yours consumer. 67 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: I think every few to speak on behalf of your 68 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: consumer are dealing a little bit differently than they are 69 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: acting and have no idea point for that. But there 70 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: are folks that are having our time their built and 71 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: see that in the credit card industry, building up their 72 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: delinquencies and supporting. 73 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: Increase in filling out reserves. None of that is true 74 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: for us. 75 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: We posted another were flapped or any year and your 76 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: deliquencies here based hire, et cetera. Those are all measures 77 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: of our excellent credit mard a firm consumer. The ones 78 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: that we actually led to are doing find their page 79 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: of building amount of time without I might add eighty 80 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: termal late feaser gimmicks tricks. The industry is started to 81 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: show signs of tracking where folks are maybe able to overextended. 82 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: I think that's probably what's bringing mats its mind. That said, 83 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: the holiday season was quite strong for us. We saw 84 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: really great engagement from occasional buyers that when to our 85 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: online partners and bought their gets all the way to 86 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: our particolders that use the card for everything from days 87 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: bend to UH to get by. 88 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: So people are very good about our ability to help 89 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: folks back and borrow. 90 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: Most important thing that because we don't charge, we don't 91 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: propound the interest. Our incentives are profoundly aligned with those that. 92 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: My money to. 93 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: They can't pay us back on client on schedule, we 94 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: will need much of my Our growth is actually driven 95 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: not just by the fact that there's a lot of 96 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 1: demand for buying bring the demand for from specific product 97 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: and our bread. 98 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: So I understand that you and I have talked a 99 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: lot about buying now, pay later, but also the other 100 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: products that you offer. Right this week, I think what 101 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: Caroline and I heard from CEO's markets guests the consumers strong. 102 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 2: But as you've just pointed out, credit card is becoming 103 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: a notable data point to track. How does that impact 104 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: you in. 105 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: Obviously we watch all thedustry data like everybody else. Again, 106 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: our borrower has done very well for us with us 107 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: and when we lend money we take into consideration there 108 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: across other borrowing devices they have describe port et cetera. 109 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: So we know that from consumer is quite strong and 110 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: repeat and they're able to stands back and that's. 111 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: Shown in our numbers and the numbers that were employ you. 112 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: You can see them more frequently than our early numbers 113 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: in our abs reports, et cetera. 114 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: And so we do quite good about the segment eponomies 115 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: that we serve. 116 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: I think to our folks that are starting to need 117 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: to perhaps it's really the running out of the pandemic 118 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: stating that taking place elsewhere we are able to step 119 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: are successful. 120 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 4: Thanks love ch it's great to have some time with you. 121 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 4: Thank you very much for joining the show with firm 122 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 4: CEO