1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Calf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We're 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: on the radio from one until four. After four o'clock 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: on the iHeart app. We transform into a podcast, John 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: and Ken on Demand so you could hear the show later. Mas, 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: you missed some of it. We're digitized, huh, we become 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: we go into a digitization machine. Digitization. Another quick update 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: on the Louisville bank shooting this morning, and again it 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: was more of a corporate situation. We don't believe it 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: was the bank, like you'll walk in and make deposits 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: and there's teller windows and all that. It looks like 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: a twenty three year old by the name of Connor Sturgeon, 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: who worked as a summer intern for Old National Bank 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: for three consecutive years and then joined as a commercial 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: development professional in twenty twenty one and a full time 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: associate and portfolio banker last year, decided that he had enough. 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: There were reports he was fired. I haven't really been 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: able to confirm that with too many other details. But 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: he went back into the bank and stormed into a 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: conference room this morning and opened fire. Before it was over, 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: four people were dead. He eventually died. We don't know 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: whether or not he killed himself yet or he was 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: killed in gunfire from responding police offers. But one of 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: the police officers who got there right away was ambushed 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: and shot in the head and apparently was a rookie. 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: It was just sworn into the police department recently and 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: has severe injuries. There is a former high school classmate 28 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: of the shooters who said, yeah, he played a lot 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: of sports football, basketball, track, and he had numerous concussions. 30 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: Talking about Connor Sturgeon, eighth grade missed most of the 31 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: year because he had multiple concussions, and then he had 32 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: a couple of more in high school. And apparently he 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: would wear a helmet even while playing basketball because he 34 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: had multiple cushions from playing football. And this is an 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: interesting I don't know if the authorities are going to 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: follow up on this because the possibility of CTE. Yeah, 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: because some of the professional football players who've met a 38 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: bad end later in life, they've gotten very violent, they've 39 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: committed suicide, they've went crazy. They opened up their brains 40 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: and found a lot of degenerative damage in there from 41 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: the CTE. I have a vague memory of one football 42 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: player who I think they'd do something violent to his 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 1: family where they killed himself from something pretty awful. Few 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: of those guys is chronic traumatic and cephalopathy right, caused 45 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: by repeated blows to the head, and you end up 46 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: with aggression, mood swings, depression, and paranoia. CNN is reporting 47 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: that he had just learned he was going to be fired, 48 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: and as I mentioned before, he left a note for 49 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: his parents and a friend explaining his intention to go 50 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: and shoot up the bank. Now I wonder why he's 51 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: going to be fired. Was he exhibiting all those mental 52 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: illness symptoms. Yeah, and they said, well, we can't have 53 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: this here. His Instagram account, where he filmed the shooting, 54 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: has been taken down, but screen grabs showed some final 55 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: posts not completely verified by the New York Post, including 56 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: meme photos with the captions I know what I have 57 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: to do, but I don't know if I had the 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: strength to do it, and quote I could burn this 59 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: whole place down. His last post was allegedly they won't 60 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: listen to words of protests. Let's see if they hear this. 61 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: So he wasn't one of those nerdy in cell types. No, 62 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: this is all anger and let go. Yes, this is 63 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: a workplace grudge, which is what we had a lot 64 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: of what back in the nineties, and then the postal workers, 65 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: and there are other people sometimes going to shoot up 66 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: the workplace because they have But it's still common. I 67 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: didn't happen last year with the guy on the farm 68 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: up in northern California. Yeah, he killed a bunch of 69 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: co workers. Yeah, it's still one of the more common 70 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: man Beside schools, it's the longest. I think the longest 71 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: running version of these mass murder shootouts is the disgruntled employee. Probably, Yes, 72 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: it's a good way to put it. And I would 73 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: say a close second or right with it, is school 74 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: shootings where you have a bullied kid. Right, It's never 75 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: anybody who's had a good day. Well, no, I don't 76 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: why would it be. It's never anybody who want a 77 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: trophy that day, you got to raise in a promotion 78 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: that day. No, somebody said yes to a marriage proposal 79 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: that day. It's never that guy. Nope. Now we have 80 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: this once again. We have a bill in Sacramento and 81 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: apparently she tried this last year in the state Senate. 82 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: State Senator Susan telementis Eggman. I am the Eggman. Now. 83 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: I've known about this woman for years. She is a 84 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: notoriously progressive, woke kind of legislate tour and she's from Stockton, 85 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: a Democrat. The bill is SP forty three, and the 86 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: idea behind it, which sounds good on paper, and that 87 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: changes to California's behavioral health law so that the severely 88 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: mentally ill can be taken under conservatorship involuntarily. That's her 89 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: plan because of the problem with the really whacked out 90 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: homeless people on the streets and a lot of people 91 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: saying it's nothing we can do. If they don't want 92 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: to come in for help, we can't force them to 93 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: the history of this is as you've probably heard decades ago, 94 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: and we're talking about more than fifty years ago. California 95 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: had a network of mental institutions where they had tens 96 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: of thousands of people inside and everybody inside was treated 97 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: very badly and tortured. I didn't have to be run 98 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: that way, but that's the way they did it. Back 99 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: in the the ones flew over the Cuckoo's Nest scenario. 100 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: So in nineteen sixty seven, this was a bipartisan effort. 101 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: The Lanternman Petris Short Act. Those are three legislatures. Legislators 102 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: they put together the bill Ronald Reagan signed it, basically 103 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: emptying out the mental health facilities. And what was supposed 104 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: to happen was local cities and counties were supposed to 105 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 1: open up their own mental health treatment centers to handle 106 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: things locally and regionally. I guess that money was never allocated. 107 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: I guess they lost the will to build these centers 108 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: because there was very very few of them constructed, if any. 109 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: And part of this Lantriman Petris Short Act was to 110 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: make it difficult, very difficult to put somebody in a 111 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: mental facility against their will. Right. You had the acou 112 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: crowd get involved, and everybody had constitutional rights to be free, 113 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: matter how deranged they were. And so at the time, though, 114 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: we didn't have this massive drug addiction which has created 115 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the homeless and caused a lot of 116 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: mental illness. A lot of this mental illness is created 117 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: by the long term use of these destructive drugs. It is, 118 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of drugs that can make people think 119 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: that the person in question is severely mentally ill with 120 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: some sort of paranoid schizophrenia, but actually it's the drugs 121 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: that cause them this type of behavior. But either way 122 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: they need help, whether it's drug abuse treatment or mental 123 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: health treatment. Get them in there, figure it out and 124 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: try to get them on a better track. Now. But 125 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: we've had so much and of course there's several people 126 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: quoted this story. I don't want to air on their 127 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: civil liberties. I don't want to make a mistake. And 128 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: this bill is too broad, this bill that they think 129 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be grabbed in off the streets. Probably, I 130 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: don't know why that they're just saying that because because 131 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: they have religious objections here. This is the woke religious crowd, 132 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: and they don't think anybody should be ever taken in 133 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: and put into forced mental treatment. So of course they 134 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: stir up images of Nazi troops coming down and grabbing 135 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: a relative and dragging them away and locking them up. Well, 136 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: that doesn't have to happen. You could do it right. 137 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,119 Speaker 1: You could have a procedure, you could go to court, 138 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: you could have medical people doing analysis and then decide 139 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: to put them away so that you could treat them 140 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: and maybe they get better. At the very least they'll 141 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: stop terrorizing the public. With all the advocates we have 142 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: out there. If we can't construct a bill that could 143 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: handle this and make sure it's not done with abuse 144 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: and wrong, why can't they do it right? All right? 145 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: When we come back, the LPs, which is the act 146 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: that John was talking about, had some definitions in it. 147 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: The person needs to be quote a danger to theirselves 148 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: or a danger to others, or the third part is 149 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: gravely disabled. That's the part that this state senator is 150 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: honing in on, the words gravely disabled, maybe to change 151 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: the meaning a bit. We'll get into the details of 152 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: that when we return. Ah, a word will be revealed. 153 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: It's a keyword. You could win some money. Johnny Ken 154 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: caf I AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the 155 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. You're listening to John and Ken on demand 156 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: from kf I AM six forty. All right, So we're 157 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: talking about another effort in Sacramento. A bit of a surprise. 158 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: I guess it's because it's coming from what I consider 159 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: to be a left woke progressive legislator by the name 160 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: of Susan Eggman from Stockton, a Democrat, to change some 161 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: of the requirements of what we call the LPs. At Lanterman, 162 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: Petra Short which deals with conservatorship telling people that who 163 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: have so much mental health issues that they can't take 164 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: care of themselves, that we're going to take you in 165 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: for care, whether you agree to that or not. As 166 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: I mentioned right before the break, original Act from the 167 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties laid out three conditions to detain someone against 168 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: their will. They have to be a danger to self, 169 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: a danger to others, or gravely disabled. And the big 170 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: one is the third one, and that's what she's focusing 171 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: on in this bill, gravely disabled. The original Act described 172 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: it as the inability to provide for the most essential 173 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: aspects of life food, clothing, or shelter, or being mentally incompetent. 174 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: So they're arguing today that the definition is too narrow, 175 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: that someone who's laying down in the park and getting 176 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: money or money meals donated to them and clothing wouldn't 177 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: be considered gravely disabled under the original definition of the Act, 178 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: which is why they're mostly left alone, because somehow they're 179 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: providing some type of food, clothing, and shelter for themselves 180 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: right the essential aspects by stealing it and begging for 181 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: it from other begging for it right or having the 182 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: meals on wheels on wheel. Now to toss they need 183 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: to toss the word gravely out of that. Do you 184 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: think that's the imp of the end? Well, yes, because 185 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: gravely makes it sound like they're about to die, all right. 186 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: Grave condition is the worst condition you can be in 187 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: before you die in a hospital. So they need to 188 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: chuck that word. And yeah, she's looking at something like 189 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: substantial risk of deterioration, debilitation, or illness. If you know 190 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: someone will have a mental illness or a substance used disorder. 191 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: The thing is it used to be you could you 192 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: could take action. You knew it when you saw it, right, 193 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, if it smells like a duck and 194 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: looks like a duck and walks like a duck, you 195 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: see these most of us looking around can see that 196 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: these people are in no control of the See these 197 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: people are sprawled out on a hardven. How many people 198 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: die a year? A thousand people a year dieing tho 199 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: thousand now two thousand. Yeah, it's five a day in 200 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. And so when you see a guy and 201 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: he's lying on a hard sidewalk and he's clearly on 202 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: drugs and he's babbling and acting nuts, just start with 203 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: the obvious cases, the ones that everyone normal would agree on. 204 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: We can't have the Wolke religious people controlling this narrative 205 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: because they're hopeless, all right. They're in a cult. They 206 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: can't see straight anymore, they can't think straight. Take a 207 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: normal person. You see guy on the ground and he's 208 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: mumbling to himself and his head's bobbed around. He can't 209 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: even stand up clearly, and he needs to be taken 210 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: away somewhere. And then then you decide what the severity is. 211 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: Is it just an addiction? Does he have schizophrenia? Is 212 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: a mental illness that's from the brain damage because of 213 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: the drugs. I mean, you know, it could be a 214 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: hundred things. So you got to take him in and 215 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: examine them and decide what to do next. And Joy 216 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: also adds substance use disorder as an indicator of grave disability. Yeah. 217 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: Now apparently they're thinking that that addiction plays a role 218 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: in mental illness. Yes, and right away, we have, of 219 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: course opposition. The Howny Behavioral Health Directors Association doesn't like 220 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: this coerced in involuntary treatment for substance abuse disorder as 221 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: counterproductive and that effective outcomes arise from voluntary compliance. Look, 222 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: they're going to object to everything. Again, they're in a religion, 223 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: all right, so they're not thinking rationally. You can't have 224 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: a hological discussion. You can't be reasonable, you can't compromise. 225 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: The movement is more and more people want these want 226 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: these homeless off the streets. So they have to go somewhere. 227 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: You have to force them to go somewhere. We're offering treatment. 228 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: So we're going to make normal people happy by getting 229 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: the vagrants off the streets. And we're going to do 230 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: something good for the vagrants by seeing what kind of 231 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: treatment they need, and they're going to be brought indoors. Now, 232 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: that is a compassionate solution that does good for everybody involved, 233 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: all the stakeholders. Good one. All right, you've appropriated a 234 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: good word. This is what I want. I want them 235 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: off the streets. I don't particularly care what happens after 236 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: they're off the streets. But if you do, then go 237 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: take them to the treatment center. But you have to 238 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: force them off the streets into the treatment center. Why 239 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: don't you want to get them treated? And why does 240 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: this keep coming up with reasons not to treat them. 241 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: That's what I am suspicious of do you want them 242 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: to die? Is this a death cult? This woke this 243 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: woke religion? Is it a death cult? You want them 244 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: to die? And I think we're quite different from the 245 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: sixties in that if we take them in and they're mistreated, 246 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: this crowd will be there to tell us that. I 247 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: think back in the fifties and sixties there were no 248 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: organized activist groups who are looking at to see what 249 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: they were doing in the mental institutions, and a lot 250 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: of this stuff never got reported or it's done in secret. 251 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Now all you need is one employee with Twitter and 252 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: a cell phone and it'll be broadcast around the world immediately, 253 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: so we'll find out about the abuses fairly quickly. So 254 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: apparently there's another section that says if a person cannot 255 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: attend to their necessary personal or medical care or self 256 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: protection or personal safeties at risk, I like this. They 257 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: found a professor of law at USC of course, named 258 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: Ellen Sacks. What constitutes personal's care and how do we 259 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: distinguish mental illness from eccentricity or neurodiversity? Who makes that determination? 260 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: In other words, somebody may just be a little off, 261 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: but they're not You got bravely disabled you're going to 262 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: yank them off the street. Yes, you know what, you 263 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: have to be eccentric indoors. You have to be neurodiverse indoors. 264 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: Went new neurodivers is. This is this new woke term. 265 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: Different brains, yet different brains that process differently, think differently. Okay, fine, 266 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: if their behavior is publicly intolerable, they got to go 267 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: inside or do it in their backyard, as long as 268 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: they look of the neighbors. You do have to have 269 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: a standard of public behavior. And if you need to 270 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: howl at the moon, you have to go out to 271 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: the desert and go how out there. So they can 272 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: be neurodiverse and they can be eccentric. They bring up 273 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: phony issues, Well, you're just wanting to ban people because 274 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: they're No. It's that you can't do the disgusting things 275 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: that people are doing in the streets. You can't do 276 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: the scary things they're doing. And we all used to 277 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: agree on that five years ago. We all agreed on 278 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: it before the woke religion took over. Apparently back in 279 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: the fifties, before this Lanterman Petris Short Act. It said 280 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: all you had to do is get a psychiatrist to 281 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: make a decision that the person needed to care. Statemental 282 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: hospitals were flooded with patients thirty seven thousand by nineteen 283 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: fifty five who languished in psych wards. Many were poor 284 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: and indigent, subjected to treatments that were misguided, unscientific and cruel. 285 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: Was that back when they use socks therapy to yeah, 286 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: zapp your brain and stuff. They did a lot of 287 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: primitive stuff. Ya see, we're not like that today. Nobody 288 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: knew any of my own I know, nobody knew anything 289 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: back then, and there were there's cruelty. But you you 290 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: can now in the modern world monitor and prevent those 291 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: cruel things from happening. We don't do those experiments. And 292 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: this law professor of the interview was actually treated for 293 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: a psychotic break herself for the to schizophrenia while a 294 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: student at Yale in the eighties. Seeing, I don't think 295 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: she stay comes from well, I mean, her being opposed 296 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: to this is because I had a bad experience. Therefore, 297 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: we can't do this because it infringes on someone's rights 298 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah blah blah. You know, go down 299 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: that rabbit. Yeah, well, yeah, right, okay, so we can 300 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: give her a seat on the committee, and she can 301 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: be in charge of objections. But eventually, this is why 302 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: I always say to people, because there's certain people with 303 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: personality types and they're always looking to say no, They're 304 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: always looking to stop. And I always say to them, 305 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: you got to look for reasons to say yes. We 306 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: have to look for reasons to say yes to putting 307 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: people in forcing them into treatment, not coming up with 308 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: reasons to say no, because there'll always be a reason. 309 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: Somebody always have like a pseudo psychological, pseudo legal reason. 310 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: And you know, they want to be a contrarian, they 311 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: want to have their hot take. It gets them followers, 312 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: That gets some attention, you know. Okay, you get one 313 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: seat at the table. You can bring up all the objections, 314 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: but the rest of the rest of the committee has 315 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: to be normal people. All right, more coming up, Johnny 316 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: Ken kf I AM six forty. We're live everywhere on 317 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: the iHeart radio app. You're listening to John and Ken 318 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: on demand from kf I AM sixty. All right, I 319 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: got one for you. Chicken gunya. Let's say chicken gunya. Yes, 320 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: chicken gunya, God bless you. M that's a guess. It's 321 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: a virus. And it comes from the Mosquito. Do you 322 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: remember that many years ago? Yes? Oh, I thought you 323 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: said I had that. Youn't. No, No, I've heard of 324 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: that now that now that I put it in the 325 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: proper context, I thought I thought that was a menu item. Uh, 326 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: we know what I found in last several days. As 327 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, we've had a lot of rain. Did anybody 328 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: notice that this past winter it's all gone? No, well, 329 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: I looked ahead here Thursday. There's a very slight chance 330 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: of rain, but that's about it for probably April. Uh 331 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: so we're done with it, certainly for the most part. 332 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: You keep consisting that, and I'll say this for the 333 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: rest of the month, and then you'll say you keep 334 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: insisting that, and I'll be right. So it'll be over. 335 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't know when you'll give up, but it's over. 336 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: Atmospheric River. You were saying that in March, and I 337 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: did not say that in March. You have misrepresented me 338 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: and the show. I did not. He said in March 339 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: that we were going to have a dry April, and 340 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,239 Speaker 1: then I said, I heard a meteorologist say we were 341 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: going to have a wet April. Set Deborah Mark actually 342 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: listens to the program. Whereas you you sit there staring 343 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: at your computer screen, your phone, and you're you're you're 344 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: talking to me, ask let me tell you something. You're 345 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: talking to me, you want to know something. You're talking 346 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: to me. You can't expect Oh, I listened to you. 347 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: I have all your expressions down. You can't expect me 348 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: to listen. Well, hee is correct, That's what I said. 349 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: I read forecast for April that were pretty weak on rain, 350 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: and I said that on the air. All right, and 351 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: here we are. It's only April tenth. But but my 352 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: point is what we started to see from outfits like 353 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: the Lsogundo times was what can we scare them with next? Right? 354 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: Of course, now one of the stories is, oh, it 355 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: could be a horrible fire season because there'll be really 356 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,479 Speaker 1: really fresh growth. There'll be so much grass and trees 357 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: and plants everywhere that's fresh to burn. Of course, we 358 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: were told when there was a drought it was the opposite. 359 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: They were so dry they would it would put quickly 360 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: and easily. Right, remember that they well, they scare with 361 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: fire either way, either the causes the fire or the 362 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: the all the moisture, all the rain causes overgrowth. Yeah, 363 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: was scrut either way. Then the next thing was, oh no, 364 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: the snow melt, We're gonna be flooded out right, that 365 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: was the next scare. Yes, the last one brings us 366 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: back to chicken gunya, which is a virus borne by mosquitoes. 367 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: And that's the latest from the scare tactics from the 368 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: California media. Watch out. With all this rain, it could 369 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: be a high risk season for the mosquito. And what 370 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: does the mosquito carry. Well, everybody knows about West Nile, right, 371 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: that's it's a story every year. In the first case, 372 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: poph that now that scare has been going on for 373 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: at least twenty years, a long time. Yeah, yes, there's 374 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: some cases do pop up and something that's mostly fake. 375 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: Though who remembers now chicken gunya I don't think ever 376 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: hit us. I think that was more a maybe it's Africa, 377 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: I forget what part of the world. But Zeka, remember 378 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: anybody remember Zeke? There was another failed scare was problem 379 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: I think for pregnant women, remember that, which is why 380 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: people didn't take COVID seriously at first. Because you're reminding 381 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: me now of all the failed scare stories over the years. 382 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: There was no credibility that the media came first and 383 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: Zika was the next thing. Media and the government have 384 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: no credibility, and so that's why there was so much 385 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: resistance to all the COVID policies. Yeah. I don't know 386 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: about all parts of SoCal, but you don't see mosquitoes 387 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: here like you do back east. Oh no, no. If 388 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: I remember being a kid on a hot summer night, 389 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: human night, and when sunset hit, oh my god, pies 390 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: were just swarm. Look, I thought I thought this the 391 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: first winner I was here. People out here are toddlers 392 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: about whether any little thing gets them whining and crying 393 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: and scared, whether it is it's exciting different right, No, 394 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: when it when the rain, the cold, that's all of it, 395 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: all of it. You'll all ought to be sentenced to 396 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: spend a year at upstate New York. And they get 397 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: back to me night. That's why we live in southern 398 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: California because we don't like that kind of weather. Well 399 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: you're not. You don't get a guarantee that you're never 400 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: going to have bad weather. We did this past winter. 401 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: We had cold and we had rain. It's awful. Everybody complained, right, 402 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: Oh you know, you know what The problem I have 403 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: is now there's pollen everywhere. My sinuses are all swelled up. 404 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: I did see the weather woman yesterday. I watched her 405 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: a big chart. This is a bad week for the 406 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: allergy people. It's in my front yard because whatever bushes 407 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: my wife had planted, they've all sprouted flowers. I've never 408 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: seen this before, all kinds of flowers, pink flowers, red, white, purpose. No, 409 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: it's not nice. I walk out the front door and 410 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: my head explodes. Nothing's nice. Nothing's nice breaking up a 411 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: whole flock of flowers and throw them on them. Although 412 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: my allergies are going crazy horrible, I don't have I 413 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: have very mild allergies and sometimes they get in seezing fits. 414 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: But I don't know what it is. Oh, you're so lucky. 415 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: I wake up in the middle of the night. Two 416 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: nice uh this weekend? And how do you scratch your throat? 417 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: How do you scratch the roof of your mouth? Because 418 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: it's really itching. I don't know. I you know, I 419 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: drank some water and nut brush stick a toothbrush down 420 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: your throat. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't. I could 421 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: feel my tissues like that. That's what you do. But really, 422 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: hard did that come from? He was that again? That's you. 423 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: That's what you do. A new sound for the oh, 424 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: to tickle your throat. Yes, yes, I have to do 425 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: that sometimes due Let me hear that gargle right, yeah, 426 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: that's probably better. Let me hear that again. No, don't 427 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: feel surprisingly good. You take what you take, warm water, 428 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: puttle salt, and you gargle with it. It really makes 429 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: your throat feel good. I do that when I have 430 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: a sore throat. It's good. That's a lot of work 431 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: at three in the morning, though, So John, we can 432 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: also get malaria and dingay from Mosquito trying to give 433 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: you the fullest, and sphlitis. You're not going to get 434 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: them out here. Oh, I just want to be part 435 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: of the scared tax. Gay, you got to go to 436 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: Africa for those days. I want chicken gunya. She will 437 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: never learn not to make noise because those noises can 438 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: be used against you in a court of law. I 439 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: never heard anyone make this. I'd also like thought played 440 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: some sound effect her with me. I'm such a gentle flower. 441 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: What a romantic sound. It's very enticing. Thanks for sharing. 442 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: You're welcome. She was trying to help you. She's always 443 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: trying to help. I was. I was trying to help 444 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: because that is a helpful tip. I will go home, 445 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: but you have to do it. I'm not going to 446 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: do it, but you have to really do it, like 447 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: partially barfing. I don't know if I could do that, 448 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: but I'll practice it privately. Yeah, at home, I would say, 449 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, that's why. All right, more coming up, 450 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: John and Ken canf I Hey, I'm sixty. You're listening 451 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: to John and Ken on demand from KF. I am sixty. 452 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, I just got a neighborhood alert 453 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: from the Ring suspicious door knocking. Hmm that what does 454 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: it say? At ten pm? With false pretenses? I love 455 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: the you have what do you have? The next door app? 456 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: And the next door app? Yeah, I'm connected because I 457 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: have a ring doorbell system and so oh I see. 458 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: So if somebody else I get the Yeah, somebody posts 459 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: some sort of alert. Did anybody else hear that? Noise? 460 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: Sounded like a gunshot? Sometimes sometimes my phone lights up 461 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: at like three in the morning, although I don't really 462 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: notice it till the next morning because it doesn't make 463 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: a sound. Well, it does buzz very lightly when these 464 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: uh ring alerts come in, but it's like, did anybody 465 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: else hear that? What was it? Fireworks? Gunshots? The police 466 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: been notified my next door app, but they can come 467 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: from miles away from me too, I know exactly. Next 468 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: door is constantly a fight over vagrance where somebody will 469 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: post a photo and raise holy hell over a new 470 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: vagrant encampment that they found, and then somebody first commenters 471 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: always somebody goes, well, um, you know, complaining is fine, 472 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: but why don't you make a donation to this homeless 473 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: shelter and they'll provide a helpful makes you know, it 474 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: just ticks you off, and you if they'd stay in 475 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: the shelters. Yeah, right, exactly. So if you go into 476 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: any convenience store, you may have noticed, if you look 477 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: in the drink aisle that there is now an amazing 478 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: array of drinks to how do I put it? Give 479 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: people energy would be one way to put it. God, 480 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: isn't there up to give people? Well, they're called wellness drinks. 481 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: That expression there's yeah, some of them referring to him 482 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: as wellness drinks. Sing is a euphemism. I mean, honestly, well, 483 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: if I energy drink sounds good too, but I think 484 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: they've added wellness to it to just to make you 485 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: more perky, make you feel more so. We have a 486 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: class action lawsuit by a guy from northern California and 487 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: the company he's suing is out of Santa Monica. It's 488 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: the feel Free Cava drink. And he says that the 489 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: feel Free wellnessed tonic is marketed as a safe, sober, 490 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: and healthy alternative to alcohol, but he's claiming he got 491 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: addicted to it. And the lawsuit says that the drink, 492 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: by the way, they say it's no more habit forming 493 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: than sugar or caffeine, which is, by the way, it's 494 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: pretty habit forming. But we've learned to live with that. 495 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. No, you can get a mild addiction to caffeine, absolutely, 496 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: oh yeah. But he says that, well, we don't believe 497 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: that it actually has cova, which is a plant from 498 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: the South Pacific that acts as a moderate depressant. But 499 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: he says what's in it is cray tom, and I 500 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: looked up cray tom, a tropical tree native to Southeast Asia. 501 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: Consumption of it leaves uh people stimulant effects and sedative 502 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: effects that can lead to psychotic symptoms and psychological and 503 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: physiological here's the key word dependence. Now that's going to 504 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: be easy to figure out, right, to analyze the drink 505 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: to see what's actually in there. Craig Tom is a 506 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: highly addictive substance that activates the same opioid receptors as narcotics. Like, no, 507 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: I've heard about cava. No, this is craig Tom. Well 508 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: it's craig Tom in the cava or it's no, they're separated. Yeah, 509 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: um uh, I don't know whether or not there, it 510 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: doesn't it's not really clear to me. How do you 511 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: spelling k R A T O M. I never heard 512 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: of that craig tom right, Or it could be cray 513 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: tom but um, well yeah it's it's it's yeah, it 514 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: might they might be related. But but it says one 515 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: is cava, which is just a moderate depressant, but craig 516 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: Tom is highly addictive. Now, listen to what happened to 517 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: this guy. He said he purchased the product from A 518 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: seven to eleven and he suddenly developed a strong addiction, 519 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: drinking ten feel free beverages per day, spending thousands of 520 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: dollars per month on the drink. He also felt severe 521 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: withdrawal symptoms when he attempted to stop using the product, 522 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: and says he was eventually admitted to a hospital emergency 523 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: room with symptoms that look like alcohol poisoning, despite his 524 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: blood alcohol content being zero. He says he was admitted 525 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: again a few days later a few months later with 526 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: symptoms like psychosis and delirium. According to his attempt I'm 527 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: looking at the Mayo Clinic and they their headline is 528 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: great Tom, unsafe and ineffective. Right now the company's saying 529 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: the company's saying that they're saying that's not what's in 530 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: there their product, that it is kava. Well, how does 531 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: he know there's great Tom in it? I guess, he 532 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: added to I guess, I guess he's I think I 533 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: think they do sneak in weird ingredients into the product 534 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: and they don't tell anybody because a lot of this 535 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: stuff is unregulated. And uh what it says there's no 536 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: regulation with Yeah, and you want you want something about 537 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: your product to stand out, right, and and this the 538 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: great time what I'm reading with the Bao Clinic can 539 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: can't affect your mood? Oh I see, yeah, right, Maybe 540 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: he's onto something there. I don't know I don't see 541 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: if more people join the suit. I haven't even heard 542 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: of the product. I don't drink any of those. Don't 543 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: drink weird stuff. But you deserve what you get. Conways here, yeah, 544 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: right now, we got to David Vassa coming on and 545 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 1: talk about the Dodgers. Some people are panicking already. But 546 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: they've only played ten games and they're five hundred. You know, 547 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: i'd call that pan Yeah, but like if it was 548 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: the NFL, you know they're there. It's the one hundred 549 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: and sixty two games for a season, so they're finished 550 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: with one sixteenth of the season. That's one NFL gets 551 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: one NFL game. If they tie the first NFL game, 552 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: you wouldn't panic. Why are people panicking? Because you know 553 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: fans are morons? Oh okay, it's what have they done 554 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: for me lately? Yeah? Okay. The average IQ of bit 555 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: obsessed as fan is about forty eight. Is that right? Yes? 556 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Wow, I'm a fan. Yeah, it's right. 557 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: Uh so Dave fast Day will come with us. Also, 558 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: we have, um, this is interesting, the Apple computers. They 559 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: see a forty percent drop in PC. You know, nobody 560 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: has their the PC and where you got your you know, 561 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: your iPads and your phone, and nobody's getting PCs anymore, 562 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,719 Speaker 1: so go get a PC. And then an eighteen year 563 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: olds gifted a winning lottery ticket, you know, the scratcher 564 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: won a million dollars on an eighteenth birthday. That is sensational. 565 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: That is pretty cool. And then that's Red Nose Day. 566 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if that means clowns or alcoholics, but 567 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: it's a Red Nose Days, I think, so one of 568 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: those stupid Facebook things. I don't know, you know what 569 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm Mondo's into that. He's into the you know, it's 570 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: Champagne Day, it's Red Lizard Day, It's all that a crap. 571 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: He likes that. I don't race track. That's exactly ding 572 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: Dong and the Masters. I'm sure you guys watch the 573 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: Masters r but yeah, no, is that beautiful out there? 574 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: I like when somebody goes, well, there's a beautiful golf course. 575 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: Really really, that's your take on that golf course? Always 576 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: regarded as the most beautiful golf course the history of 577 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: the world, and yours is like, wow, that's pretty They 578 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: just they just noticed it, right, What a take? What 579 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: an original take on that? Dog? Yeah, like two Hey, 580 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: you've been listening to The John and Ken Show. 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