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Speaker 2: Oh like, what's good?

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Speaker 3: Everybody?

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Speaker 2: You have found us? This is the l Huddle Podcast.

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Speaker 2: My name is Will Sava alongside my Prima, My Prima Ermana,

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Speaker 2: mj Acasta Ruiz. Hey, oh we MJ. We are not alone.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, this podcast has got a little

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Speaker 2: bit more menacing. You know, we like to pump up

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Speaker 2: all of our guests.

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Speaker 3: We always like to.

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Speaker 2: Pump up all the Latinos who are doing well, not

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Speaker 2: only in the NFL, but the entertainment world in general.

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Speaker 2: We have this wonderful cross section happening here. So the

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Speaker 2: next guest that we have he is a painter, a

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Speaker 2: spoken word poet, and an actor. His TV credits include

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Speaker 2: a memorable role in the acclaimed ABC drama series American Crime,

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Speaker 2: NBC's Line Order, Special Victims Unit, Snowfall for FX, SWAT

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Speaker 2: for CBS. But perhaps we know him best for being

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Speaker 2: l Secret Angel Reyes from Mayan's MC on FX. Give

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Speaker 2: it up for Clinton Cartennis, but we can't play what's up?

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Speaker 3: Like, how's it going? Guys? Thank you for having me?

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Speaker 1: Not the full IMBD credits, Will he read through that's

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Speaker 1: not even full though. I feel like that's just a

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Speaker 1: little bit. We're so excited to have you here. You're

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Speaker 1: an LA dude, born and raised, big sportsman, former football

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Speaker 1: player as well, so we're going to get into some

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Speaker 1: Mayan's MC season five. This is huge. I mean when

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Speaker 1: it first got introduced as a spinoff, did you anticipated

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Speaker 1: having this long of a run. I mean, we knew

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Speaker 1: that that that archetype right, that like cultural pink point

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Speaker 4: Us, you know, I think naively though, I think we

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Speaker 4: all thought that it was gonna go an automatic seven seasons.

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Speaker 3: Like Sons of Anarchicet.

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Speaker 4: But then we filmed the first pilot and uh, they

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Speaker 3: So we're every so all of.

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Speaker 4: Us were like, well, oh, like we better rethink, yeah,

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Speaker 4: let's not buy these houses and cars, and you know,

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Speaker 4: let's pump the brakes a little bit. So it kind

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Speaker 4: of put everybody in check. But as time progressed and

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Speaker 4: the stories became more interesting and the character developed.

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Speaker 3: Became more interesting.

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Speaker 4: I think we all saw that this was you know,

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Speaker 4: so grateful for it to be at this point.

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Speaker 2: I am so curious because that man has his cape.

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Speaker 2: Christian Bale has talked about wearing the suit and how

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Speaker 2: he felt transformed. How does that Harley transform you and

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Speaker 2: your character? How bad you feel when you're on there?

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Speaker 3: I can't lie.

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Speaker 4: You know, you feel pretty bad at when you especially

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Speaker 4: in the morning, right before you can get on the

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Speaker 4: the back, like you feel unstoppable. But the Harley, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the Harley really really drives it home.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think everybody feels a little bit bigger than they

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Speaker 4: So no, it definitely brings a different level of testosterone.

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Speaker 1: I would say, Okay, so I tried to be on

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Speaker 1: we're keeping it. We're keeping it for me.

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Speaker 2: Great, thanks for making me look bad.

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Speaker 1: And you got to do the.

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Speaker 1: We can pivot this. It's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 3: It's like I like you.

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Speaker 1: Greatest things about the show Clay is just the level

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Speaker 1: to know that you're surrounded not just by your community,

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Speaker 4: I mean working alongside you know, Emilio Rivetto, who was

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Speaker 4: But then for me personally, working with Edward James almost

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Speaker 4: and to have these deep conversations with him about acting

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Speaker 3: So just learning from him, I'm honored.

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Speaker 4: And you know, he gives me great advice all the time.

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Speaker 4: last day of filming, he said. He said, Okay, when

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Speaker 4: He's like, you tell them, I'm expensive, but I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Period.

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Speaker 4: I was like, you know, like I was taken back

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Speaker 4: he meant. He's like, you have to know your worth

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Speaker 4: and doesn't mean that like you have power in this game.

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Speaker 1: No, you know, but I'm good.

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Speaker 2: How do we get more Latino representation in the entertainment industry?

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Speaker 2: We had Rita Moreno on and she was lamenting the

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Speaker 3: Well, two things I think. First of all, as a

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Speaker 4: So like just awareness and maybe you know, showing kids

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Speaker 4: I think that's a big start. But the real I

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Speaker 1: No one can tell our stories like us, right, And you.

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Speaker 4: Know, it's it's sad when you do see stories about

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Speaker 3: But then you know, it's just it's it just drives

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Speaker 4: And me was like, okay, I as an actor, I

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Speaker 4: So it's kind of really opening my eyes too and everything.

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Speaker 4: To answer your other your second part of your question, yes,

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Speaker 4: Again, if when we see stories about us not written

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know how many other ethnidsties and

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean. So we are headed in the

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Speaker 4: Growth, yes, but there's always room for much more.

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Speaker 1: I love that real quick. I want to touch on

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Speaker 1: your upcoming field and time alone because this is huge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah Henson is involved.

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Speaker 4: So the film is about so it's two it's a

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Speaker 4: Is takes place in the kitchen and my character's name

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Speaker 3: So it's about these two separate characters.

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Speaker 4: And then Anna played by Taraji he had seen as

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Speaker 4: So it's these two interesting stories and we intersect in

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Speaker 4: So No, I'm really excited for this. Yeah, hopefully we're

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Speaker 2: I love that, right, can't wait for that. You know,

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Speaker 2: in talking to you and MJ, I think you would agree.

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Speaker 2: Clay just seems like such a nice, thoughtful, down to

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Speaker 2: earth guy. But you have a sixterior. You have this exterior, right,

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Speaker 2: like some of the characters that you play, like a

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Speaker 2: secret that you right, like Angel? How how do people

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Speaker 3: Do they say?

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Speaker 2: Are they expecting that that menacing type character?

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Speaker 4: Boots and riding up on his motorcycle, and you know,

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Speaker 4: they're a little disappointed. The way I address is a

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Speaker 3: So there are like you said, and Jay, they.

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Speaker 4: Are expecting, they are expecting that guy. But once they

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Speaker 3: Asked them what their name is and you know, kind

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Speaker 4: It gets really comfortable after that, but they are disappointed.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be that's going to be dangerous. Have you

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Speaker 1: Thank thank you, Clai.

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Speaker 1: Who's going to the club?

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Speaker 2: In your biographies or whenever there's anything avalue. Obviously it's

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Speaker 3: Cool, so cool.

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Speaker 1: I love that. But look at that it's one one

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Speaker 1: It was destined to you. I love that, Clay, thank

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Speaker 1: We are so excited for Mayan's MC another season on FX.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. We want to see you out at a

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Speaker 1: do it. He's gonna surbridere's what You're gonna tragedy. No,

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Speaker 1: Just give him a chance. That's all I'm saying. Graater Nation, Clay,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. We're going to, of course continue

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Speaker 2: Appreciate its heys the heat next.

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Speaker 1: Round in the finals.

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Speaker 3: Let's go have a good one, guys, right, thanks Clay,

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Speaker 3: appreciate thank you, Clay. We appreciate you, thank you, Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 3: You guys are great. Thank you. Have a good one.

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Speaker 3: You too, You too.

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