WEBVTT - Rivals in the Ruff w/ Devin Walker

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<v Speaker 1>What's up everyone on tourydio.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Anishka and I'm Anissa Ferreira and this is

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<v Speaker 2>MTV's official Challenge podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>And today was a real ball buster, wasn't it? Oh Man?

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<v Speaker 2>One of my balls did bust? And I said, can

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<v Speaker 2>I take this saggy brown sack over to the thing

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<v Speaker 2>and toss it in the box? But Devin and Lee

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<v Speaker 2>right already won, So there goes my balls.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, how did it feel to be back on

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<v Speaker 3>the net and the net?

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<v Speaker 1>How did it be back on the net?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of annoying because Kelly Anne was taking up that

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<v Speaker 2>one corner. I'm like, Kelly An, you're like a spider monkey.

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<v Speaker 2>You see me crawling up. Why would you crawl up

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<v Speaker 2>the same space we're not. This isn't a game of

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<v Speaker 2>like fight each other off the net. I needed to

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<v Speaker 2>be secure. I'm thicker, you are a spider monkey. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me passch.

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<v Speaker 3>She's very squirrely. She's very squirrely, and she's very strong.

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<v Speaker 3>Kellyan's like right, so she could have used the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the net, yea.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was just a for a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>that may suffer from PTSD. This was something that normally

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't happen in your life. You don't go like to

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<v Speaker 2>exposure therapy immediately and have to face that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just wasn't expecting it, So yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think that Leroy and Devin had a

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<v Speaker 2>great strategy and I felt like as long as they won,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really need to like go full throttle.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this episode was very You and Ashley heavy,

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<v Speaker 3>so it obviously sucked to watch you have to go

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<v Speaker 3>through that in the same breath, Like, I have so

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<v Speaker 3>much faith that you're going to navigate this effortlessly beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>like you're going to handle it gracefully.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a beautiful spar beautiful spar in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the words of Glorilla, it's a beautiful spurt.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what gets us. That's what gets us through.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, but yeah, beyond that, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>another day in the Challenge House. It's another day that

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<v Speaker 2>Adam and Steve will have to go in there, regardless

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<v Speaker 2>if Adam has the plague or not.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, like, this episode was full in so many ways,

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<v Speaker 3>with so many different things happening. To see Kelly Ann

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<v Speaker 3>and Sylvia like hugging at the end, there It's like,

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<v Speaker 3>if Kelly Ann and Sylvia can get there, I think

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you and Ashley can get there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, Ashley and I were friends first, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a you know, like we were you saw

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<v Speaker 2>us on Champs for Stars, Yeah, you know, so it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like we weren't friends before. We may be able

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<v Speaker 2>to get there, though. I'm going to talk to her

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<v Speaker 2>and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there is a lot of potential for it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm excited for it. I also am really excited

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<v Speaker 3>for our guests on the podcast today because this person

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<v Speaker 3>is Hans Hans Down.

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<v Speaker 1>His Hans domb Haws, Hans Dom, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>His name's Hans. We're having Hans on the podcast today.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Hans Don.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Dutch version of Devin. It's Dutch been Ons.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm so excited to have him on the podcast

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<v Speaker 3>and we're going to get into the rest of this

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<v Speaker 3>episode with him because there's so much to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>and honestly, we want to share the mic a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit and let him rant because when.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave goes on a rant, Dave goes on a rant.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave goes on a rant, He's.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a lot to say, and we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>hear all of those things when we get back from

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<v Speaker 2>the break.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 3>This person is one of my favorite people on the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Started on a rival season, you've seen him on Vendetta's

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<v Speaker 3>Final Reckoning all the way up to being the champion

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<v Speaker 3>of season Ride or Dies. He's back on our screens

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<v Speaker 3>again on All Stars five.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome in Devin Smooth Chalker Walker.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, ladies, we missed you.

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<v Speaker 5>What an episode, dude?

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<v Speaker 1>What an episode? Yeah, that's the way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>What an episode.

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<v Speaker 3>How does it feel to be the hottest man ever

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<v Speaker 3>to grace the screens of the Challenge?

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<v Speaker 5>Per per you right?

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<v Speaker 4>So, by the power vested in me, given to me

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<v Speaker 4>by myself, I now declare me the hottest man in

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<v Speaker 4>the history of the Challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>First round draft pick, the hottest man and an All Star.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you want to know what self? Confidence is everything?

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<v Speaker 4>And I have stiff competition for the person who thinks

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<v Speaker 4>they're the hottest. And I think I have now surpassed Fessi.

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<v Speaker 4>It was previously an unattainable mountaintop, but here I am.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think when Bessie looks at you now he

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<v Speaker 3>respects you more because he realizes that you are the hottest.

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<v Speaker 4>Do I think FEESSI respects me now because I think

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the hottest? Yes? I do.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he respects me more now, Jesse.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that he sees how hot you are

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<v Speaker 2>and he just can't help but to respect you?

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<v Speaker 4>That's now that's gonna be to It's a harder answer.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm gonna go with yes, But I don't. I

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<v Speaker 4>just feel like that that probably could be refuted by him. Yeah, potentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a tough sell.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and he and uh a tough smell.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a tough sell and a tough smell, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Is he actually smells pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>He was my roommate.

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<v Speaker 1>He smells great.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's got.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got a decent scent, a lot of product.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have the first three minutes of this podcast

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<v Speaker 3>in my mind slotted for FEESSI. But I'm I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>he'll be happy to know that he's being talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>In such a great way.

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<v Speaker 4>Cinnamon raisin, tell us more. Cinnamon raisin is his cologne scent.

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<v Speaker 5>He rubs bagels.

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<v Speaker 1>This smells like a blueberry bagel.

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<v Speaker 4>It's bagel it's Bagel's bagel scented.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, bagel scented, cinnamon is and bagel scented.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's good. I'm glad we got that out of

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<v Speaker 4>the way so I can put this note card away.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm just kidding. That was straight off the top.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh god.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know how I felt about this watching this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you feel about it?

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<v Speaker 4>On a scale of a nissa to good. I'd probably

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<v Speaker 4>put myself at a good. So I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 4>can only imagine how you felt, but I guess we'll

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<v Speaker 4>get into it later. I don't know. I thought it

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<v Speaker 4>was a decent app It's tough, Like the rivals theme.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been fortunate enough to do these twice now, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's always like kind of a shot in the dark.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw someone on Twitter said said something pretty funny,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was like, I love how these rivals range

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<v Speaker 4>from you tried to ruin my family last year, you

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<v Speaker 4>told me I was ugly twenty five years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So it really does so much spectrum of stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything's a spectrum.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, everything's a spectrum.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you think you and Leroy fall on this

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<v Speaker 3>spectrum of rivals?

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<v Speaker 5>We're probably middle of the pack.

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<v Speaker 4>To be honest, So like, I don't even think Lee

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<v Speaker 4>roy knew that I knew that he did all that

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<v Speaker 4>stuff on Double Agents, because for whatever reason, people forget

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<v Speaker 4>that it is a TV show that you can watch

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<v Speaker 4>but also record and then rewatch. So if you're someone

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<v Speaker 4>like me who really likes to keep a tab on

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<v Speaker 4>who you may you know, have a free free.

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<v Speaker 5>Shot at I.

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<v Speaker 4>I do do that, And I did watch that season

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<v Speaker 4>back and think to myself, huh, I really got played here.

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<v Speaker 4>So for him, I don't think it was he really

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<v Speaker 4>cared because he was the one doing the mean thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But for me, I was pretty salty. So I think

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<v Speaker 4>we're probably middle of the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmmm. I I feel interest. I don't think he

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<v Speaker 1>exactly to your point.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he'd have the same reaction, but I'm curious,

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<v Speaker 3>Like when you guys were standing up there and like

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<v Speaker 3>TJ was like, okay, Devin and.

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<v Speaker 5>Leroy, were you like how or were you like happy in.

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<v Speaker 4>A way.

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<v Speaker 1>Partner?

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, well, I mean he Let's keep in mind

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<v Speaker 4>at this point, Turbo was still on the stage, so

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, okay, this has gotta be right. It leveled

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<v Speaker 4>a pussy chicken level two and pussy Chicken level three,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not sure if you add or multiply those,

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<v Speaker 4>so us together would have been pussy Chicken level five

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<v Speaker 4>or six.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but what if we get exponents in there? Then

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<v Speaker 1>were really fucked.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you throw a couple of parentheses in and then

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<v Speaker 4>you know we could beget you fasty Chicken double digits.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was happy to have Leroy, obviously happy to

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<v Speaker 4>have Leroy. You know, he's he's a really good partner.

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<v Speaker 4>And I say it in this episode, always the bridesmaid,

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<v Speaker 4>never the bride. I really firmly believe he has all

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<v Speaker 4>the components to win. There's just a little bit that

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<v Speaker 4>I think Cam has really helped him with where he

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<v Speaker 4>he says this even in his own words, that he

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<v Speaker 4>always feels really bad about like sending people in. And

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<v Speaker 4>I do believe that, and Cam has really helped him

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<v Speaker 4>recognize in my opinion, having played with him before and

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<v Speaker 4>then played with him on Double Agents with Cam has

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<v Speaker 4>really helped him differentiate, uh, like how to navigate the

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<v Speaker 4>game without bringing your feelings too far into it, which

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<v Speaker 4>we can see that Frank is excellent at.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love I already for the notes that but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I need collective notes from all of you of how

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<v Speaker 2>to just just.

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<v Speaker 1>Go in there and say, I know we're friends. Fuck it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was crazy. Frank's admission was actually I found

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<v Speaker 4>pretty refreshing.

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<v Speaker 5>I do think it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I love when people pat themselves on the back for

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<v Speaker 4>like their manipulation skills, when what they're actually doing is

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<v Speaker 4>just lying directly to your face. It's like, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not that hard to do well if you just lie,

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<v Speaker 4>Like everyone knows that, it's pretty easy if you if

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<v Speaker 4>you're if you're playing the game.

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<v Speaker 5>With zero integrity, it's not hard to go far. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it is it. I just don't think it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's giving that Frank is not coming back for multiple seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say this because you can't talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have to change it up.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, like you may.

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<v Speaker 3>He is, like, how any challengeer watching this has to

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<v Speaker 3>know his m O after this, it's not gonna work

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<v Speaker 3>for seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny's been doing it for decades and people still seem to.

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<v Speaker 1>Fall for it. Johnny Johnny has it takes it takes

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<v Speaker 1>a whole.

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<v Speaker 3>Season to get Johnny to admit he's done something wrong

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<v Speaker 3>if he ever admits it.

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<v Speaker 4>Frank's coming in hot season one, being like, honestly, I

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<v Speaker 4>hate them all. I hope that I don't tell him

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<v Speaker 4>I like him, but I hate them and I want

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<v Speaker 4>to kill them.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually there's an opportunity. I think he sent me

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of.

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<v Speaker 1>Texts m M, yeah, you're gonna respond.

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<v Speaker 4>Frank fired off a couple of texts no, I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I have no problem with Frank. I actually, and when

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<v Speaker 4>I say this, I truly mean it. I find it

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<v Speaker 4>refreshing for someone to own it this aggressively. I agree

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<v Speaker 4>with Tori that I don't think that it's gonna work out.

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<v Speaker 4>Potentially he's not playing the long game. Okay, so I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think it's gonna work out in the future, but

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<v Speaker 4>it is very refreshing. I just love how there's a

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<v Speaker 4>common like self fulfillment from like lying directly to people's faces.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I'm like, okay, I get that, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>guess you tricked them, but like why would they expect

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<v Speaker 4>Like of course they wouldn't. There's no you're doing it

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<v Speaker 4>like it's not even needed, you don't even need to

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<v Speaker 4>do it. So I don't know, it's just a weird.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of an interesting way to play, and we'll see,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see how it works out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, h this episode was super interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>But I want to just go back a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>in time because the last time we saw you on

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<v Speaker 3>the screens was Battle of the Eras.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you left halfway through the game.

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<v Speaker 3>We did see a couple of flowers and bouquets be

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<v Speaker 3>sent to Michelle, maybe a crossword puzzle in there that

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<v Speaker 3>we suspected either meant I love you or I hate you,

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<v Speaker 3>or potentially I like you.

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<v Speaker 1>We were trying to figure out which four letter word

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<v Speaker 1>you were using in there.

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<v Speaker 3>But you pretty much came home, had a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a break, and went right back into All Stars.

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<v Speaker 3>What made you decide to go back so quickly and

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<v Speaker 3>tell us what that transition.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like and also talk a little bit about Michelle.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I can do all of those things with style

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<v Speaker 4>and grace. That was me patting myself in the back.

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<v Speaker 4>So I actually stayed in Vietnam for like three weeks,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe maybe like two weeks, and then I got home

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<v Speaker 4>and I was home for I think like two or

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<v Speaker 4>three weeks. And while I was still in Vietnam, they

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<v Speaker 4>asked me to go back, so I.

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<v Speaker 5>Was like, well, I can't stay here forever, So I.

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<v Speaker 4>Got to go home at least, and like check on

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<v Speaker 4>my boat, make sure it's still floating.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to check on your boat.

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<v Speaker 4>Got to check on.

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<v Speaker 5>The vessel, make sure it's above water.

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<v Speaker 4>So I popped back over to the States briefly, and

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<v Speaker 4>then honestly I needed the miles to get to.

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<v Speaker 5>Crystal status with Delta.

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<v Speaker 4>So I.

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<v Speaker 5>Free upgrades go a long way.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I didn't like the way that I had left forty,

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<v Speaker 4>and I believe it or not, it was such a

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<v Speaker 4>weird misconception of how I feel like my kind of

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<v Speaker 4>enemies saw the way that I was playing that game

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<v Speaker 4>versus how I was actually playing it. You've played with

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<v Speaker 4>me before, atory I was so not trying to manipulate

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<v Speaker 4>anybody on forty or really even play the game that hard,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I truly wasn't. I was in bed. There's like

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<v Speaker 4>a hilarious scene of us of you being like how

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<v Speaker 4>long you've been in that bed? I'm like about fourteen hours.

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<v Speaker 5>I slept till three.

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<v Speaker 4>I got pretty much blacked out every night, like I

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<v Speaker 4>was not playing the game, and still like looked around

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, oh, it's halfway, maybe I should

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<v Speaker 4>probably clock in, And then obviously at that point it

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<v Speaker 4>was too late, but I wanted to really play, and

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<v Speaker 4>the reason that it was forty was difficult for me. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it came across this way or not, I really

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<v Speaker 4>was putting other people's games ahead of my of my own,

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<v Speaker 4>And it seems like at a certain stage I made

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<v Speaker 4>people choose or whatever, but that was really because it

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<v Speaker 4>was so clear to me that if I'm not around,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to be able to kind of help

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<v Speaker 4>the people that I want to help, and I know

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to get fucked over later down the line,

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<v Speaker 4>so I have to draw the line in the sand now.

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<v Speaker 4>And I felt like this was going to be a

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<v Speaker 4>good opportunity to go back and play like fully for myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew obviously that a lot of the people we'd

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<v Speaker 4>normally play with weren't going to be there, and I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know what the theme was or anything, but I

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<v Speaker 4>figured it was just going to be kind of a

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<v Speaker 4>fresh cast, because what are their psychos are going to

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<v Speaker 4>go back?

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<v Speaker 5>And I guess it was just me and Anissa.

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<v Speaker 3>I want a redemption for Leroy Katie Doyle or Katie

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<v Speaker 3>Katie Cooley. There was a few people that were on

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<v Speaker 3>errors even if it was even if they.

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<v Speaker 1>Weren't there, but they had a been there for a while.

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<v Speaker 5>I No, that's so true.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Devin was definitely there the longest, and course

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<v Speaker 3>you were. You're crushing it this season. I mean, watching

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<v Speaker 3>you and Leroy compete in this daily challenge, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a surprise to me. The one thing that stood out

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<v Speaker 3>to me the most about you guys was that you only.

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<v Speaker 1>Did two trips with those balls.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, if I know anything about Dave, he

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<v Speaker 3>is making sure you do less trips. He I like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what's one of the most important things I've ever

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<v Speaker 3>learned from you strategically in a game. So talk to

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<v Speaker 3>us a little bit about what it's like to work

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<v Speaker 3>with Leroy. Do you feel like you are mostly the

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<v Speaker 3>one coaching or developing the strategy for how you wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to approach each individual challenge or was it like more collaborative.

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<v Speaker 4>So the bar scene has taught me less trips is

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<v Speaker 4>more fun. So when I go to the Yeah, when

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<v Speaker 4>I go to the bar, I order two drinks at

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<v Speaker 4>a time. Yeah, So I don't have to wait in

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<v Speaker 4>line twice. I just I just that strategy over into

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<v Speaker 4>the challenge. Now, someone like Dario who had a horrible strategy,

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<v Speaker 4>I was insane. He was like, He's like, my plan

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<v Speaker 4>is to take one ball at a time so that

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<v Speaker 4>when people see us way out in front, it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to break them mentally. I was like, and then it

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<v Speaker 4>immediately cuts to like Dario and Ashley with one ball

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<v Speaker 4>apiece and everyone's directly.

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<v Speaker 5>Behind them with five balls.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, how'd that work out for you, budd

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<v Speaker 4>good good strategy. Efficiency is the name of the game.

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<v Speaker 4>As far as who's leading and who's following with me

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<v Speaker 4>and Leroy, he definitely deferred to me in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>like what are you comfortable doing, Let's do that. You

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<v Speaker 4>also weren't allowed to take. I don't think you were

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<v Speaker 4>allowed to take more than five balls. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 4>what the rules were, but either you weren't allowed to

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<v Speaker 4>or doing two trips of five was the same as

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<v Speaker 4>doing six and four, right, So yeah, we knew we

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<v Speaker 4>were going to do it in two trips and that

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<v Speaker 4>was FESSI and Amber did the same thing. But as

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<v Speaker 4>far as whoever's taken the lead, I think me and

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<v Speaker 4>Leroy have a really good balance of neither one of

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<v Speaker 4>us being super committed to like our own strategy. If

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<v Speaker 4>the other person's really confident in.

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<v Speaker 5>Theirs, I mean, that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>That's obviously so important to like have a good, healthy

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<v Speaker 3>partnership with somebody. I think like it was a little

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<v Speaker 3>shocking in a good way to see Leroy kind of

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<v Speaker 3>be like, I'm actually gonna take the reins on this puzzle.

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<v Speaker 4>Did he actually do that or.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he just saying that in his interview.

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<v Speaker 4>Tangerine puzzles, as Drell famously calls them, are my kryptonite

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<v Speaker 4>in a lot of ways I've lost. I lost a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of them. So I was happy when he was

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<v Speaker 4>like confident, that's what I mean. I was like, oh, no, doubt.

0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.800
<v Speaker 4>Like before, we didn't know what the puzzle was before

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<v Speaker 4>we got to the station, So once we got there

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<v Speaker 4>and it was a tanagram, I was like, all means,

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<v Speaker 4>if you feel like you have this, let it rip.

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<v Speaker 4>And he did really well, like he truly. What's funny

0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.399
<v Speaker 4>about that is I was I probably did better in

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<v Speaker 4>the obstacle portion, and Leroy did better in the puzzle

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<v Speaker 4>we like reversed roles.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmm, love a little row reversal. He left a little

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<v Speaker 1>row reversal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, lit some dom something crazy, a little switch.

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<v Speaker 1>We love, we love a good switch. Well, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>crushed it. It worked for you. You guys least challenge.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved it and shout out Anissa the cargo net slayer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, said I looked at it like, Devin, as long as.

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<v Speaker 1>You win, I'm safe. Yeah, that was part of my strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>We're looking at him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was no reason. We passed each other on

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<v Speaker 4>the rope at one point and I was like I think.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like Anissa, chill, like, you're good, We're gonna win,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm like I'll hold it steady for you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like I'll just wait here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And that's that was in these paired situations like this,

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<v Speaker 4>and had we not had a star and had I

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<v Speaker 4>not felt like there was kind of this whisper going

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<v Speaker 4>around the house that Adam and Steve are going to

0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:19.080
<v Speaker 4>be the house volte and I'm like, okay, well, if

0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:24.320
<v Speaker 4>they win. This seems like a male male team target situation.

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<v Speaker 4>So if they win and they're safe, yeah, we have

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<v Speaker 4>some connections. But also as we're seeing it, The feeling

0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.960
<v Speaker 4>in the house overall was like, don't get too comfortable,

0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:39.040
<v Speaker 4>definite Leroy because if Adam and Steve go, you're next

0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.640
<v Speaker 4>in line. Like, no one felt like they could beat us,

0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.080
<v Speaker 4>to be honest, no one felt like they could beat us.

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<v Speaker 4>So we needed to win, and we did. And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, it was a tough decision. I know Sylvia

0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:52.719
<v Speaker 4>and Kelly and are probably pissed about it, but it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't It certainly wasn't a personal thing. I was looking

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<v Speaker 4>at it more like this is just one of the

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<v Speaker 4>teams that I really don't know where they stand right, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I know they've got connections to Ashley, but then Kelly

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<v Speaker 4>An's got connections to Amber, and then Shane and Devon

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<v Speaker 4>get put in the blender there as well. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>we it was really hard to determine who was working

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<v Speaker 4>with who, especially because I was so bored that I

0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:31.480
<v Speaker 4>was so bored, they were so bored.

0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:33.680
<v Speaker 5>They were painfully boring.

0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.639
<v Speaker 1>We cross where, we cross worded heavily.

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<v Speaker 4>BESI was the most interesting person there. It was insane.

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<v Speaker 4>It was absolutely insane. I mean, obviously outside of a

0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.359
<v Speaker 4>NISS who I have a relationship with outside of the game,

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<v Speaker 4>I went in there thinking to myself, well, someone's got

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<v Speaker 4>to have something.

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<v Speaker 5>And then like Daria walks in, I'm like, whoa big miss?

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<v Speaker 4>All Star? Unbelievable?

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<v Speaker 5>All Star were like no star review on Yelp.

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<v Speaker 4>Or like one star review.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't go here, Ashley Kelsey, so a snorefest. Oh I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sorry, nice person, snorefest.

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<v Speaker 4>And also, can I just say one thing that I

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<v Speaker 4>also just absolutely loathe about most of the people that

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<v Speaker 4>were there. It was fucking talk about my baby time

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<v Speaker 4>all the time. It was all the time, everyone talk

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<v Speaker 4>about our babies.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, shut up.

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<v Speaker 4>No one cares about your baby.

0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 5>I certainly do not care about your child. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>care about them at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope they are alive, and I hope they're healthy

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<v Speaker 4>and having a good life. But I don't want to talk.

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:51.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to talk about them or to them.

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<v Speaker 4>I have no interest in it.

0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:57.680
<v Speaker 5>Everyone just kept being like my cat and my wife.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, Jesus Christ's five weeks, everybody.

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:04.200
<v Speaker 5>Relax, We're gonna be fine.

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 4>So I pretty much just buried myself in crosswords and

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 4>and uh in Carlsberg's and and uh. Yeah. It was

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 4>a snorefest.

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<v Speaker 5>So I I mean, I feel it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel apps and a lot of crosswords.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like you really had to get that out.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm so happy that we were able to be

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<v Speaker 3>there for you to I know.

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, And I'm so sorry about everyone with children.

0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:30.200
<v Speaker 4>They're so interesting.

0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:35.879
<v Speaker 5>Hey, quick newsflash. No one cares about your kid except

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:39.920
<v Speaker 5>for you on my wa who cares about your cat?

0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:42.439
<v Speaker 5>No one else cares.

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:45.840
<v Speaker 4>If they're acting like they care, they don't.

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<v Speaker 5>They're lying to your face.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I have to say that it's really

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<v Speaker 3>hard to care about normal life stuff when you're in

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<v Speaker 3>a game, playing for a lot of money, and you're

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 3>worried about if the person you're talking to is manipulative

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.440
<v Speaker 3>like Frank or as you say, just lying straight to

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 3>your face, you know, like like you just never know

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 3>in a house like that, it's very difficult to take

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 3>people for face value in that game.

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 1>For sure.

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 4>Things I don't want to do talk about your kid,

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 4>look at photos of your kid, sing your kid happy birthday,

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 4>all things that happened in a one hour. In one

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 4>hour or honestly, what they should do is they should

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 4>put them all in a room and start a timer

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 4>and give them an hour to talk about their kids,

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.639
<v Speaker 4>and then and then hard ice on your children.

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:35.400
<v Speaker 1>For twenty three hours a day.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, get you get your what do they call it

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 4>in jail? You get your yard time. Okay, I'll go

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 4>out in the yard talk about your kids. When you come.

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 5>Back to your cell. You need to not talk about

0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 5>your children anymore. Okay, I'm not all stars.

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Six parents first, non parents.

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, brutal.

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, No, it's good that you got that out, so

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.160
<v Speaker 3>we know how you feel about talking about children. How

0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 3>do you feel about people saying I'm sick, don't vote

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 3>me into elimination.

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 4>I like it more than talking about people's kids. I'd

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 4>put that one notch above. But so to be fair,

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 4>this was.

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Kind of really was very sick.

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 5>I mean, we saw the sweat.

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:14.920
<v Speaker 4>We made him sit on the front of the bus,

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 4>we created a barrier. Yeah, I'm actually shocked that Steve

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:21.640
<v Speaker 4>didn't have a remedy, some sort of remedy. I also

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:25.159
<v Speaker 4>do want to get to Steve's hair. At some point Elite.

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.919
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know they were giving out perms Steve. I

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 4>would have got one, bud unbelievable. Apparently, I don't know

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:37.360
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't sure. He looked great. His hair looks unreal

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 4>when he lets it down. I just we never saw

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 4>it because he never wore it down in the house.

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>A lot of pontiadbands before his interviews.

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 5>He must have been getting perms because it looks great. Nice,

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 5>looks nice.

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>But have you seen his hands?

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 5>His hands are elite? Yeah, his hand model yeah? Oh

0:25:57.800 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 5>oh trust me.

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Did he talk about it a lot? Like as much

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 3>as people talked about children.

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 4>H Dude. Here's the thing about Steve is he's actually

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 4>super interesting and I like him a lot. People get

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.159
<v Speaker 4>him going and then they're like, oh my god, he

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 4>won't stop talking about his hands. It's like, dude, you

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 4>asked yeah, they run, You asked him about it, You

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 4>asked him about his beautiful hands. You sit there and listen.

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 4>He's been he's been patiently waiting for a turn in

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 4>between child time to talk about his hands. Now you listen.

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 3>It's just so funny because if you're in the Challenge house,

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 3>you know that people talk in circles about what they

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 3>have to talk about, Like everyone's on a loop.

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Like everyone comes it's been five minutes.

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:46.120
<v Speaker 3>They're coming back to their kids or they're coming back

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 3>to They're like, I can just imagine.

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:49.360
<v Speaker 1>And the thing is is.

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 3>You you didn't know that many people this time around,

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 3>so you're meeting them.

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 4>Yo. They were chasing me around the yard, like can

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 4>I tell you about my kid? I was like, no,

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 4>get away from me. They thought I was running for exercise.

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 4>I was just trying to stay moving. I was just

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:05.680
<v Speaker 4>trying to stay moving. So I was at an earshot.

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I a circular path that we would like.

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 4>They were out, They like had picket signs. What do

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 4>we want to do talk about our kids? When do

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 4>we want to do it? Now?

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Now?

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 4>When do we want to do it? At every waking moment.

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 5>I can't handle it.

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't handle this.

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 4>Adam.

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 5>Adam was writing his kid's names on his forearms.

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, how do you think you're gonna feel

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 3>if you have a kid.

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't think you're going to be doing that.

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't think I'll be writing their names on my

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:39.639
<v Speaker 4>forearms on a game show. I could be wrong. My

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 4>life could take a turn. I I'm not sure, but

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 4>if I had to guess, I would say probably not.

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 4>Keep in mind, I flushed Kyle's ultrasound photo down the

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 4>toilet in thirty seven, So just in general, I don't know,

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to hear about that ship.

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Watch that were you done?

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 4>No, he tried to get He tried to show me

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 4>his thing, and I was like, this is gonna, this

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 4>is gonna emotionally distract you, and I can't have it

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 4>because you're my number one.

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:07.679
<v Speaker 5>So I took his ultra sound flushed it in the

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 5>game Kyle, and in the game so fucked hilarious.

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>What about Kelly? What about Kelly?

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 3>And she talks about her dogs a lot or dogs

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 3>a lot, which and you know me, I'm an animal lover.

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 3>But is it was it the same amount as talks

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 3>about kids.

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Or is it just more of an interview thing.

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 4>I don't think she talked about dogs that much. I

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 4>didn't talk about dogs too much. Kelly's actually Kelly and

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 4>was relatively chill.

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm a Kellyan fan.

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 5>There really wasn't anybody that I disliked.

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 4>There just wasn't many people that I liked and I

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 4>and I don't know how that plays out.

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, honestly, I'm a big Steve guy.

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 4>Steve was one of the more interesting people, like like,

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean that genuinely, Yeah, Steve is one of the

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 4>one of the more interesting people that was that was

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 4>there for me, like.

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Very smart, he knows a lot about a lot of things.

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah he doesn't.

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he likes the chat. He's a chatter.

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 5>He's a chatty cat chatter.

0:28:58.400 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>He's a chatty cat.

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 3>I liked him on All Stars four, so I was excited.

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 3>It's just so interesting, Like I know you so well,

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.239
<v Speaker 3>so I was really wondering who you were gonna vibe with.

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's like another green flag with around Steve,

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 3>because I also feel like I would really like him too.

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, Steve, Steve is great.

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 4>And it wasn't that I again that I didn't I like,

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't that I was like not vibing with people.

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 4>It's that for whatever reason. And I think, honestly, it's

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 4>like early in the game, people are trying to play

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 4>it safe.

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 5>I don't know. Maybe it just didn't kind of it

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 5>like didn't click, but it was.

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 4>It was a little boring.

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Well I'm glad you got that out, all of that,

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>every part of it. All Right, we have to take

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Okay,

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 1>let's get back to the show.

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 3>You definitely stirred the pot, you know, when you had

0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 3>your power with Leroy, You guys went around, you had

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 3>all of the conversations, and it completely threw all of

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 3>us for a loop when you ended up choosing kelly

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 3>In and Sylvia to go into the elimination.

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>When did you decide to do that?

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 4>We had narrowed it down. We go over to Adam

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 4>and Steve. We go Adam Steve, take three teams off

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 4>the list. We don't you're already sick. You got fucked

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 4>over by the house. We don't want to like, we're

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 4>not putting in stars for this reason. So we've taken

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 4>like two teams off the list.

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 5>Take three off the list. Who do you not want

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 5>to go against?

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 4>At least we can do that for you. And then

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 4>based off the teams that they didn't decide, we were

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 4>left with I believe Shane and Davon, kelly In and Sylvia,

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 4>and then Frank and Sam and they were like, we're

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 4>fine with any of these options. So we just was like,

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 4>Shane and Davon, I haven't I don't have a huge

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 4>relationship with either one of them, but I've played with

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 4>Shane before, I've done the podcast a few times with Davon.

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 5>I think she's hilarious, so I wasn't going to go

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 5>that route.

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 4>And then we had a conversation with Frank and Sam

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 4>and they just, I guess, gave us a little bit

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 4>more faith that we would be prioritized. So it just

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't that we had anything against KellyAnn and Sylvia.

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 5>It was just they just ended up kind of being

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 5>the odd team out.

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, now that we've heard Frank say verbatim that he

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 3>can manipulate you easily because you have an ego, do

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 3>you regret not putting in Frank.

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 4>And Sam that ego? Frank talking about someone else's ego

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 4>is quite quite the kettle hot scenario if you ask me.

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 4>I think he's a great guy, but he conceded is

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 4>an understatement. Frank does believe he is God's gift to

0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 4>this green Earth, and he is very handsome, he's smart

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 4>as hell, he is in good shape. I find him

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 4>to be a little mean. I'm just gonna say it.

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 4>I think he's a little mean to Sam. I think

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 4>he was mean to her kind of the whole time,

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 4>and he's kind of covering it with like this weird

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 4>support that's like very see through to me. But No,

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 4>Frank had zero input on our decision to put Kelly in. Essentially,

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 4>we were like, hey, there's three teams we're gonna pick from.

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 4>You're one of them. Make a case for the other two.

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 4>And he made a case for both of the other two.

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 4>But no, Frank, Frank wasn't manipulating. I don't think as

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 4>much as he thinks or thought that he was. I

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 4>can see why he would want we always have to

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 4>remember these interviews happened later. And I think sometimes things

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 4>happen in the game where you're like, Okay, I've done

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 4>this thing. Now let me go back retroactively and make

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 4>it seem like this is what was happening the whole time.

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 4>And for those of us that have done the show

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 4>several times, we know that that is a strategy used.

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 4>I did it to you. Remember when I couldn't to me? Yeah,

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 4>remember when I couldn't pull the rope up And I

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:21.959
<v Speaker 4>was like, I totally did this on purpose. It's like, no,

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't pull the rope up because I was a

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 4>little weany.

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't even care. I'm like, you were just

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to get me.

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 5>You're trying to get me as your rival.

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Turns out you got me as your ride or die.

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 5>I know how that, how.

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 4>That happened, How that happened, Big swing and a miss.

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 5>Did you guys watch my ridiculousness episode or what?

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, no you're watch it.

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, it's so good.

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>It's so good.

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 4>I just want to say this to any challengers that

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 4>are listening to this, which is probably zero, but if

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 4>you do get the opportunity, if you get the opportunity

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 4>to go and do it, it's very fun. And uh,

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 4>it was a great experience. So thanks shout out to

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 4>them for having me. And uh, what a night that

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 4>was when we got double double Devin.

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 5>You know Double Devin.

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 3>We got Double Devin first episode of All Stars, and

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 3>then we went we went straight into ridiculousness. And I

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 3>think what killed me the most was your Instagram stories

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 3>where you were like and at ten pm, after hours

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 3>spicy content.

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 5>I was so I died, I was laughing so hard.

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 4>I just I want everybody to know that I crack

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 4>myself up.

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's so clear.

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 4>I know there just hooting and howling over here on

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 4>a daily basis, so low. I called toy yesterday. I

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 4>was like, hey, have you uh, hey, you liking your house?

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 4>And she was like, I never leave it. I was like,

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 4>I know me too, it's great. I'm just in here

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 4>fucking cracking myself up. It's great.

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you just have to leave it for three months

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 3>at a time, or in your in your situation, six

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 3>months or eight months in Vietnam, and then you go

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.760
<v Speaker 3>back and you watch yourself in Vietnam from your house.

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's not that bad.

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 4>Go to Vietnam, come home, watch yourself in Vietnam, rinse

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 4>and repeat.

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Go back to Vietnam down the street from your old house.

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, listen, everyone, don't overthink it.

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 4>Book a ticket to Vietnam.

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh I can't nice.

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 5>Nice, don't overthink it.

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 3>You know who I think probably won't be booking a

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 3>ticket to Vietnam anytime soon.

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 1>And soh I.

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 3>Was gonna say KellyAnn and Sylvia because they seem to

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:50.880
<v Speaker 3>be leaving on good terms and they both have weddings

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 3>to plant per this episode.

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 2>And Sylvia loved you, it seemed she was. She was

0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 2>so excited, she was happy to be in there.

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 4>I did get that invite, but I did switch addresses.

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 4>So I imagine it probably just went to the wrong place.

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Let's talk about them for a second.

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:12.720
<v Speaker 3>I want to to I want to do a direct

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 3>quote from Sylvia Devin, you can kiss my flat ass.

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>How does that make you feel? I?

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 4>Uh would, I left?

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 5>I would so funny. I would rather kiss Sylvia's flat

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 5>ass than get her armpit sweat on my shoulder.

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 4>Disgusting.

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>You didn't love them just bonding over. I did what

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I really did.

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 5>I hated that. I hated that.

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 4>I may have hated that more than I hate when

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 4>someone has a condiment stain on their shirt in a

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 4>water park, which I hate. It's a it's a niche hate,

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 4>but I loathe it.

0:36:58.520 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 5>I had that.

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 4>I hated that. I hated that. But yeah, I don't

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 4>think they'll be going back to uh the Vietnam anytime soon. Honestly,

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 4>they were pretty entertaining. We in retrospect, we should have

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 4>kept them around.

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 5>But again, I don't know.

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 4>It was early, no one had really done anything. You

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 4>know how it is like when you win one early

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.919
<v Speaker 4>and everyone's kind of just like promising the same thing.

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 4>It's like, yeah, I.

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Don't know how you figure it out?

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's like okay, well, whatever one of you. Yeah,

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, pick your poison essentially, so yeah, but yeah,

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. They were you know, gone too soon

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 4>hashtag gone too soon.

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I definitely feel like Kelly Ann and Sylvia brought.

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>It like their fight was.

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously for them it was very real, but

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 3>like they they brought it this season for them, every every.

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Word, Yeah, the seed next Tuesday and she meant it.

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like they weren't faking it. There wasn't like the

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 2>you're okay. They were really like, bitch, I don't like you,

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:56.919
<v Speaker 2>and I don't like you either.

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 4>I was disappointed Beth was gone so soon. I was

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 4>really disappointed.

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 2>That's what's starting to really Uh you were a big

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Beth guys.

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:06.839
<v Speaker 1>More about Beth.

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm a big Beth guy. I gotta just call it

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 5>how I see it. I know people.

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 4>Don't love her. I know she may have trying to

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 4>try to uh ruin a couple of relationships along the way.

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 5>I don't.

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm a big Beath guy, you know, Yeah, I just

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 4>damn uh she She was nice to me and I

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 4>thought she was pretty funny and you know, so like

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 4>you know how I really liked Jody as well, because.

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:43.839
<v Speaker 1>I really like Jody.

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to compare Beth and Jody because they

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 4>are very different, but in my interactions with them, they

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 4>were both like kind of like down to hang out,

0:38:56.840 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 4>drink beers and like had a little something going. Yeah,

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 4>like Beth was getting after it a little bit, so

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 4>that's awesome.

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't know, I.

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 2>Like beer pong, dude, I'm telling you.

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 4>It was probably like of people I didn't know super

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 4>well going in that I enjoyed hanging out with Beth

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 4>was up there. Sam's great. We get to see a

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 4>little Sam and a Nissa moment in this episode, which

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 4>I thought was which I thought was great, And I

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 4>feel the same way about that.

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I always want to support people.

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was, I was. I felt I did feel

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 4>a little badly for Sam. She got off to kind

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:39.320
<v Speaker 4>of a rough start obviously, just like with that climate,

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 4>it's like pretty brutal to to do that type of

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 4>stuff in And I really thought she means she was

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:50.399
<v Speaker 4>pushing herself to failure, So like that that is at

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:53.359
<v Speaker 4>just because your your failure level may not be where

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 4>somebody else's is, the will power to push yourself to

0:39:56.440 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 4>failure is something to be admired and something you should

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 4>get credit for. And I was just looking at that

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 4>of like, the mental fortitude it takes to push yourself

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.879
<v Speaker 4>to the point of your body failing before giving up

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:14.320
<v Speaker 4>is like all I would want to see in a partner.

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 4>And so I thought that was a cool moment when

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 4>you were kind of giving her flowers for that and

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 4>you said, of course.

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 3>And Anissa another direct quote, she called you beautiful and smart.

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about that? I think they're both accurate.

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:30.879
<v Speaker 1>I knew you were going to say that. I knew.

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I think it's nice to hear those things. I think

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 2>it's nice to be to, you know, do something kind

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:44.720
<v Speaker 2>and know that it's it's genuine and that someone received

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:47.320
<v Speaker 2>it the way that it was intended. And I only

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 2>wanted her I knew how. I know how she feels,

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 2>and you know, our experiences might be a little different,

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 2>but I wanted her to feel comfortable. Yes, she's stellar

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 2>at crosswords, so is she She really got some good

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 2>She really got some one that I could have never

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 2>figured out.

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 4>We would call in the closer. Sam was the closer.

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.239
<v Speaker 4>We'd call in the closer and she'd be like, uh,

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, like, uh, jimminy crickets were like, what

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 4>how the hell did you get that?

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 5>She's like I saw the jay Like what he's like,

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 5>humpty dumpty. I'm like, are you just saying like riddles?

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>It actually works to.

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Keep guessing nursery rhymes. What's going on here?

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Why do it get so dark over there? Devin? I know, Dave,

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I need you to put it on because I'm very.

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 3>You're just fainting into the abyss where Okay, you're back?

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I was quite nervous.

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:35.919
<v Speaker 4>He went out.

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 5>It's terrible.

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to know, Devin. You did have some notes

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 2>written down? Is there anything we missed? Anything?

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:51.360
<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, so let's just see what I have written

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 4>down that I kind of had questions about.

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 5>So here's something Shane said.

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 4>Is it Is it a widely accepted fact that men

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:05.760
<v Speaker 4>can't handle sickness?

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:08.439
<v Speaker 5>I've never heard this before. Yes, this is a thing.

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but we do say that men can't handle like

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 3>the common cold, and like women are so powerful and

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 3>strong we give birth and can have fevers.

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh that's a thing and periods and all out.

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 4>Well, I was I was unsure if that was a

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:26.280
<v Speaker 4>saying I'd never heard Okay, so that is true. Now

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 4>onto my second note card. Veronica states during the challenge

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 4>that she believes she is doing a good job of

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 4>laying low, and I just would like to say, Veronica,

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 4>I agree you are. You are certainly doing that. If

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 4>that is a strategy, congratulations, you have nailed it. It

0:42:55.160 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 4>seems like it's it's easy to say that's your strategy

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 4>when it is the only thing you are capable of doing.

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 4>But needless to say, I applaud you on doing that strategy.

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>That's not the emoji that I am.

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:18.439
<v Speaker 3>For anyone who can't see this, which is everyone because

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 3>we don't have a video podcast and he's just putting

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 3>her face over her hands over her face.

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I just thought that was hilarious of

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 4>it being like, oh, yeah, no, this is strictly strategy based.

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 4>I was like, really, because it seems like probably just

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 4>the only possible option.

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:36.320
<v Speaker 5>I can't Dario had another knee slapper.

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 4>I guess that.

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.839
<v Speaker 5>Something along the lines of, I guess the challenge has

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:49.759
<v Speaker 5>changed since eighty eight or eighty six random years to pick.

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 4>Also a little bit of agism from Dario. Don't love

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 4>it don't love it, Dario. Yeah, not only the same

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 4>joke that's been recycled I don't know four hundred times

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:03.760
<v Speaker 4>on this challenge.

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 5>Oh it's an old person wheelchair eighties. It's like, come on, dude,

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 5>dinosaurs Yeah, like din something gray hair, It's like, can

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:17.359
<v Speaker 5>you for the love of God?

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:23.240
<v Speaker 4>So you know, yeah, Dario with another absolute zinger, would

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:27.359
<v Speaker 4>expect nothing less from him, and then my and then

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 4>my and then my final My final note, which I'm

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 4>actually gonna just putting bullet points on a T shirt

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 4>is my mom had a.

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:39.400
<v Speaker 5>Jaguar, I had a Volvo.

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 4>I grew up in a three story house, and a

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 4>thousand people went to my high.

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:52.359
<v Speaker 8>School where and in what world is that something that

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:56.720
<v Speaker 8>we are using to I guess prove a point.

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 4>And if so, what point is it?

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:03.439
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, Oh exactly, Like I don't, I don't.

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 4>It was just I thought it was random.

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:06.360
<v Speaker 5>Volvo really got me.

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 4>A thousand people went to my high school had me dying.

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:14.839
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, what what does that mean? I don't know

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 4>what that means. So if people want to buy them,

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:21.399
<v Speaker 4>they'll be on my website where Devin Walker and it's

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.880
<v Speaker 4>just going to say my mom had a Jaguar.

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 5>I had a Volvo.

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I lived in a three story house, and then

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 4>a thousand people went to my high school. And those

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 4>are those are all my notes actually. Oh and then

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:41.399
<v Speaker 4>also I have written down Steve's hair is elite hashtag herm. Yeah,

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 4>that's that's the last I already talked about that so

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 4>we can.

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:47.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, those are all the notes I had from the challenge.

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:51.359
<v Speaker 2>My face hurts and that's why no one can see

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 2>us when we do this, because I had botox. But

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 2>you would know because I don't know what to do

0:45:57.239 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 2>with my face because it still fucking moves and it

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:01.840
<v Speaker 2>is involuntary at this point.

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, not involuntary facial movement like what And he

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 4>said not that.

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Dad's gonna put a shirt.

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 4>With that quote.

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 5>Someone called the paramedic.

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:19.799
<v Speaker 4>Hey, hey, first world problems. Am I right? But Dario, you.

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 5>Got a zinger for that. You got a boatox zinger

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 5>up your sleeve.

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 4>Buddy.

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I'm old and I need botox.

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:29.360
<v Speaker 4>Would be like, oh stiff crowd.

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 5>Oh god, listen, kid is a comedian.

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you know who was a comedian? I'll say this

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:38.880
<v Speaker 1>right before we go. Adam had some great ball jokes

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 1>and you didn't love them.

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 4>I loved them. God Jesus, I will just say this

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:58.240
<v Speaker 4>between Ashley and Adam, the whites are whiting uh aggressively.

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 4>It's so absurd. I was like, holy shit, this is

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 4>what people mean, this is what they're talking about.

0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:09.360
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I got it.

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 4>Unreal. Uh So it's a good place to end there,

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:16.760
<v Speaker 4>I guess. But yeah, two of the two of the whitest.

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, I've forgotten. Beth was there too, Love Beth,

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:22.400
<v Speaker 4>but what a white?

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 5>What a white?

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:27.800
<v Speaker 2>So this was definitely all said on the show, and

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I never cracked up more in my life when Adam

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:36.520
<v Speaker 2>had to then say, We're like, Adam, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think bb W a bbl is?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't there for that, but yes, you were.

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<v Speaker 1>Was outside with the whitest of the white.

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<v Speaker 5>I was probably disassociating, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm bump so good nailed it well, Dave, Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you so much for coming on the podcast and literally

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<v Speaker 3>being my favoritepisode of the season. Yeah, my face is

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<v Speaker 3>literally in pain. Where can people follow you? And again,

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<v Speaker 3>where can they buy your merch and where can they

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<v Speaker 3>support you? Any other platform that you'd like to shine

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<v Speaker 3>a little light on.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now.

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<v Speaker 5>My Patreon. Devin Walker reacts, Okay, you have Patreon. I

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<v Speaker 5>have a Patreon, and I react to things and.

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<v Speaker 4>It's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 5>It's pretty funny, and people really like it, and we're

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<v Speaker 5>proud of you.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of rants, So just hop on there and

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be recording live from the Bahamas for the remainder

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<v Speaker 4>of the season because your boys catching a jet plane

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<v Speaker 4>out of town. Also, I believe there's still tickets available

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<v Speaker 4>for Challenge Mania for Thodderdale, yes yep, which will be

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<v Speaker 4>happening the day after Tory's birthday, So if you want

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<v Speaker 4>to come celebrate with Dave and and Rachel, which should

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<v Speaker 4>not be awkward at all, we will be there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so nice that you took time out of your

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<v Speaker 2>busy day to come on here and chat with us.

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<v Speaker 2>It is always fun to have you. You are hilarious

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<v Speaker 2>and now I'm gonna need more botox because of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's nice. Well, glad I ruined your forehead and

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<v Speaker 4>thanks for having me. Everybody, and just remember that your

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<v Speaker 4>feelings are.

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<v Speaker 6>Valid and you like to eat salad, and you like

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<v Speaker 6>to eat salad.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so nicer. Two things.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, ladies, god Hian Devin is truly the best.

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<v Speaker 1>He does he does, he is the best. He's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I love. I still think he should be one of

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<v Speaker 1>our hosts.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean if we if we ever had to host

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<v Speaker 3>in a trio, he would be the other.

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<v Speaker 1>He would be hanging out with Dave. It's true, it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be two a nieces and a day. I mean two

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<v Speaker 1>days in a Nissa. I'm sorry, my brains, it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>called the Dad Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Anissa, even though we can't talk to Dave anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>we can still find you on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can we.

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<v Speaker 3>Follow you, support you and tell you that we love you?

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<v Speaker 2>It's Anissa MTV. That's a n E E s a

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<v Speaker 2>m t V on Instagram. And Tory, where can they

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<v Speaker 2>follow you and show you some love and some support?

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<v Speaker 1>You guys can show me some loves in's and support

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<v Speaker 1>sins at Tory Underscore deal on Instagram. But more importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining.

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<v Speaker 3>Us for another episode of MTV's official Challenge podcast. Make

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<v Speaker 3>sure you tell all your fellow Challenge bands to listen, rate,

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<v Speaker 3>and review us.

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<v Speaker 2>Catch a Challenge All Stars rivals on MTV. Join us

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<v Speaker 2>after as we go behind the scenes on empty v's

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<v Speaker 2>official challenge podcast.

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