Speaker 1: What's up everyone on tourydio.
Speaker 2: And I'm Anishka and I'm Anissa Ferreira and this is
Speaker 2: MTV's official Challenge podcast.
Speaker 1: And today was a real ball buster, wasn't it? Oh Man?
Speaker 2: One of my balls did bust? And I said, can
Speaker 2: I take this saggy brown sack over to the thing
Speaker 2: and toss it in the box? But Devin and Lee
Speaker 2: right already won, So there goes my balls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, how did it feel to be back on
Speaker 3: the net and the net?
Speaker 1: How did it be back on the net?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Kind of annoying because Kelly Anne was taking up that
Speaker 2: one corner. I'm like, Kelly An, you're like a spider monkey.
Speaker 2: You see me crawling up. Why would you crawl up
Speaker 2: the same space we're not. This isn't a game of
Speaker 2: like fight each other off the net. I needed to
Speaker 2: be secure. I'm thicker, you are a spider monkey. Let
Speaker 2: me passch.
Speaker 3: She's very squirrely. She's very squirrely, and she's very strong.
Speaker 3: Kellyan's like right, so she could have used the middle
Speaker 3: of the net, yea.
Speaker 2: So it was just a for a lot of people
Speaker 2: that may suffer from PTSD. This was something that normally
Speaker 2: doesn't happen in your life. You don't go like to
Speaker 2: exposure therapy immediately and have to face that, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wasn't expecting it, So yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that Leroy and Devin had a
Speaker 2: great strategy and I felt like as long as they won,
Speaker 2: I didn't really need to like go full throttle.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, this episode was very You and Ashley heavy,
Speaker 3: so it obviously sucked to watch you have to go
Speaker 3: through that in the same breath, Like, I have so
Speaker 3: much faith that you're going to navigate this effortlessly beautiful,
Speaker 3: like you're going to handle it gracefully.
Speaker 2: I have a beautiful spar beautiful spar in the in
Speaker 2: the words of Glorilla, it's a beautiful spurt.
Speaker 1: That's what gets us. That's what gets us through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but yeah, beyond that, you know, it's
Speaker 2: another day in the Challenge House. It's another day that
Speaker 2: Adam and Steve will have to go in there, regardless
Speaker 2: if Adam has the plague or not.
Speaker 3: Also, like, this episode was full in so many ways,
Speaker 3: with so many different things happening. To see Kelly Ann
Speaker 3: and Sylvia like hugging at the end, there It's like,
Speaker 3: if Kelly Ann and Sylvia can get there, I think
Speaker 3: maybe you and Ashley can get there.
Speaker 2: You know, well, Ashley and I were friends first, so
Speaker 2: it's not a you know, like we were you saw
Speaker 2: us on Champs for Stars, Yeah, you know, so it
Speaker 2: wasn't like we weren't friends before. We may be able
Speaker 2: to get there, though. I'm going to talk to her
Speaker 2: and see what happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there is a lot of potential for it,
Speaker 3: and I'm excited for it. I also am really excited
Speaker 3: for our guests on the podcast today because this person
Speaker 3: is Hans Hans Down.
Speaker 1: His Hans domb Haws, Hans Dom, I don't know.
Speaker 2: His name's Hans. We're having Hans on the podcast today.
Speaker 2: It's Hans Don.
Speaker 1: It's the Dutch version of Devin. It's Dutch been Ons.
Speaker 3: No, I'm so excited to have him on the podcast
Speaker 3: and we're going to get into the rest of this
Speaker 3: episode with him because there's so much to talk about
Speaker 3: and honestly, we want to share the mic a little
Speaker 3: bit and let him rant because when.
Speaker 1: Dave goes on a rant, Dave goes on a rant.
Speaker 1: Dave goes on a rant, He's.
Speaker 2: Got a lot to say, and we are going to
Speaker 2: hear all of those things when we get back from
Speaker 2: the break.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned.
Speaker 3: This person is one of my favorite people on the planet.
Speaker 3: Started on a rival season, you've seen him on Vendetta's
Speaker 3: Final Reckoning all the way up to being the champion
Speaker 3: of season Ride or Dies. He's back on our screens
Speaker 3: again on All Stars five.
Speaker 2: Welcome in Devin Smooth Chalker Walker.
Speaker 4: Hello, ladies, we missed you.
Speaker 5: What an episode, dude?
Speaker 1: What an episode? Yeah, that's the way to put it.
Speaker 1: What an episode.
Speaker 3: How does it feel to be the hottest man ever
Speaker 3: to grace the screens of the Challenge?
Speaker 5: Per per you right?
Speaker 4: So, by the power vested in me, given to me
Speaker 4: by myself, I now declare me the hottest man in
Speaker 4: the history of the Challenge.
Speaker 2: First round draft pick, the hottest man and an All Star.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you want to know what self? Confidence is everything?
Speaker 4: And I have stiff competition for the person who thinks
Speaker 4: they're the hottest. And I think I have now surpassed Fessi.
Speaker 4: It was previously an unattainable mountaintop, but here I am.
Speaker 3: Do you think when Bessie looks at you now he
Speaker 3: respects you more because he realizes that you are the hottest.
Speaker 4: Do I think FEESSI respects me now because I think
Speaker 4: I'm the hottest? Yes? I do.
Speaker 5: I think he respects me more now, Jesse.
Speaker 2: Do you think that he sees how hot you are
Speaker 2: and he just can't help but to respect you?
Speaker 4: That's now that's gonna be to It's a harder answer.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna go with yes, But I don't. I
Speaker 4: just feel like that that probably could be refuted by him. Yeah, potentially.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a tough sell.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he and uh a tough smell.
Speaker 1: It's a tough sell and a tough smell, you know.
Speaker 5: Is he actually smells pretty good.
Speaker 4: He was my roommate.
Speaker 1: He smells great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got.
Speaker 4: He's got a decent scent, a lot of product.
Speaker 3: I didn't have the first three minutes of this podcast
Speaker 3: in my mind slotted for FEESSI. But I'm I'm sure
Speaker 3: he'll be happy to know that he's being talked about.
Speaker 1: In such a great way.
Speaker 4: Cinnamon raisin, tell us more. Cinnamon raisin is his cologne scent.
Speaker 5: He rubs bagels.
Speaker 1: This smells like a blueberry bagel.
Speaker 4: It's bagel it's Bagel's bagel scented.
Speaker 5: Yeah, bagel scented, cinnamon is and bagel scented.
Speaker 4: So that's good. I'm glad we got that out of
Speaker 4: the way so I can put this note card away.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just kidding. That was straight off the top.
Speaker 6: Oh god.
Speaker 2: So I know how I felt about this watching this episode.
Speaker 2: How did you feel about it?
Speaker 4: On a scale of a nissa to good. I'd probably
Speaker 4: put myself at a good. So I don't know. I
Speaker 4: can only imagine how you felt, but I guess we'll
Speaker 4: get into it later. I don't know. I thought it
Speaker 4: was a decent app It's tough, Like the rivals theme.
Speaker 4: I've been fortunate enough to do these twice now, and
Speaker 4: it's always like kind of a shot in the dark.
Speaker 4: I saw someone on Twitter said said something pretty funny,
Speaker 4: and it was like, I love how these rivals range
Speaker 4: from you tried to ruin my family last year, you
Speaker 4: told me I was ugly twenty five years ago.
Speaker 1: So it really does so much spectrum of stuff.
Speaker 5: Everything's a spectrum.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything's a spectrum.
Speaker 3: Where do you think you and Leroy fall on this
Speaker 3: spectrum of rivals?
Speaker 5: We're probably middle of the pack.
Speaker 4: To be honest, So like, I don't even think Lee
Speaker 4: roy knew that I knew that he did all that
Speaker 4: stuff on Double Agents, because for whatever reason, people forget
Speaker 4: that it is a TV show that you can watch
Speaker 4: but also record and then rewatch. So if you're someone
Speaker 4: like me who really likes to keep a tab on
Speaker 4: who you may you know, have a free free.
Speaker 5: Shot at I.
Speaker 4: I do do that, And I did watch that season
Speaker 4: back and think to myself, huh, I really got played here.
Speaker 4: So for him, I don't think it was he really
Speaker 4: cared because he was the one doing the mean thing.
Speaker 4: But for me, I was pretty salty. So I think
Speaker 4: we're probably middle of the road.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. I I feel interest. I don't think he
Speaker 1: exactly to your point.
Speaker 3: I don't think he'd have the same reaction, but I'm curious,
Speaker 3: Like when you guys were standing up there and like
Speaker 3: TJ was like, okay, Devin and.
Speaker 5: Leroy, were you like how or were you like happy in.
Speaker 4: A way.
Speaker 1: Partner?
Speaker 4: And yeah, well, I mean he Let's keep in mind
Speaker 4: at this point, Turbo was still on the stage, so
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, this has gotta be right. It leveled
Speaker 4: a pussy chicken level two and pussy Chicken level three,
Speaker 4: and I'm not sure if you add or multiply those,
Speaker 4: so us together would have been pussy Chicken level five
Speaker 4: or six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what if we get exponents in there? Then
Speaker 1: were really fucked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you throw a couple of parentheses in and then
Speaker 4: you know we could beget you fasty Chicken double digits.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But I was happy to have Leroy, obviously happy to
Speaker 4: have Leroy. You know, he's he's a really good partner.
Speaker 4: And I say it in this episode, always the bridesmaid,
Speaker 4: never the bride. I really firmly believe he has all
Speaker 4: the components to win. There's just a little bit that
Speaker 4: I think Cam has really helped him with where he
Speaker 4: he says this even in his own words, that he
Speaker 4: always feels really bad about like sending people in. And
Speaker 4: I do believe that, and Cam has really helped him
Speaker 4: recognize in my opinion, having played with him before and
Speaker 4: then played with him on Double Agents with Cam has
Speaker 4: really helped him differentiate, uh, like how to navigate the
Speaker 4: game without bringing your feelings too far into it, which
Speaker 4: we can see that Frank is excellent at.
Speaker 2: I would love I already for the notes that but yeah,
Speaker 2: I need collective notes from all of you of how
Speaker 2: to just just.
Speaker 1: Go in there and say, I know we're friends. Fuck it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was crazy. Frank's admission was actually I found
Speaker 4: pretty refreshing.
Speaker 5: I do think it's.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: I love when people pat themselves on the back for
Speaker 4: like their manipulation skills, when what they're actually doing is
Speaker 4: just lying directly to your face. It's like, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: not that hard to do well if you just lie,
Speaker 4: Like everyone knows that, it's pretty easy if you if
Speaker 4: you're if you're playing the game.
Speaker 5: With zero integrity, it's not hard to go far. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it is it. I just don't think it is.
Speaker 3: It's giving that Frank is not coming back for multiple seasons.
Speaker 1: And I say this because you can't talk about it.
Speaker 1: I might have to change it up.
Speaker 4: I mean, like you may.
Speaker 3: He is, like, how any challengeer watching this has to
Speaker 3: know his m O after this, it's not gonna work
Speaker 3: for seasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is the thing.
Speaker 2: Johnny's been doing it for decades and people still seem to.
Speaker 1: Fall for it. Johnny Johnny has it takes it takes
Speaker 1: a whole.
Speaker 3: Season to get Johnny to admit he's done something wrong
Speaker 3: if he ever admits it.
Speaker 4: Frank's coming in hot season one, being like, honestly, I
Speaker 4: hate them all. I hope that I don't tell him
Speaker 4: I like him, but I hate them and I want
Speaker 4: to kill them.
Speaker 5: I actually there's an opportunity. I think he sent me
Speaker 5: a couple of.
Speaker 1: Texts m M, yeah, you're gonna respond.
Speaker 4: Frank fired off a couple of texts no, I did.
Speaker 4: I have no problem with Frank. I actually, and when
Speaker 4: I say this, I truly mean it. I find it
Speaker 4: refreshing for someone to own it this aggressively. I agree
Speaker 4: with Tori that I don't think that it's gonna work out.
Speaker 4: Potentially he's not playing the long game. Okay, so I
Speaker 4: don't think it's gonna work out in the future, but
Speaker 4: it is very refreshing. I just love how there's a
Speaker 4: common like self fulfillment from like lying directly to people's faces.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like, okay, I get that, Like I
Speaker 4: guess you tricked them, but like why would they expect
Speaker 4: Like of course they wouldn't. There's no you're doing it
Speaker 4: like it's not even needed, you don't even need to
Speaker 4: do it. So I don't know, it's just a weird.
Speaker 4: It's kind of an interesting way to play, and we'll see,
Speaker 4: we'll see how it works out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, h this episode was super interesting.
Speaker 3: But I want to just go back a little bit
Speaker 3: in time because the last time we saw you on
Speaker 3: the screens was Battle of the Eras.
Speaker 1: Yes, you left halfway through the game.
Speaker 3: We did see a couple of flowers and bouquets be
Speaker 3: sent to Michelle, maybe a crossword puzzle in there that
Speaker 3: we suspected either meant I love you or I hate you,
Speaker 3: or potentially I like you.
Speaker 1: We were trying to figure out which four letter word
Speaker 1: you were using in there.
Speaker 3: But you pretty much came home, had a little bit
Speaker 3: of a break, and went right back into All Stars.
Speaker 3: What made you decide to go back so quickly and
Speaker 3: tell us what that transition.
Speaker 1: Was like and also talk a little bit about Michelle.
Speaker 4: Okay, I can do all of those things with style
Speaker 4: and grace. That was me patting myself in the back.
Speaker 4: So I actually stayed in Vietnam for like three weeks,
Speaker 4: maybe maybe like two weeks, and then I got home
Speaker 4: and I was home for I think like two or
Speaker 4: three weeks. And while I was still in Vietnam, they
Speaker 4: asked me to go back, so I.
Speaker 5: Was like, well, I can't stay here forever, So I.
Speaker 4: Got to go home at least, and like check on
Speaker 4: my boat, make sure it's still floating.
Speaker 1: You have to check on your boat.
Speaker 4: Got to check on.
Speaker 5: The vessel, make sure it's above water.
Speaker 4: So I popped back over to the States briefly, and
Speaker 4: then honestly I needed the miles to get to.
Speaker 5: Crystal status with Delta.
Speaker 4: So I.
Speaker 5: Free upgrades go a long way.
Speaker 4: No, I didn't like the way that I had left forty,
Speaker 4: and I believe it or not, it was such a
Speaker 4: weird misconception of how I feel like my kind of
Speaker 4: enemies saw the way that I was playing that game
Speaker 4: versus how I was actually playing it. You've played with
Speaker 4: me before, atory I was so not trying to manipulate
Speaker 4: anybody on forty or really even play the game that hard,
Speaker 4: Like I truly wasn't. I was in bed. There's like
Speaker 4: a hilarious scene of us of you being like how
Speaker 4: long you've been in that bed? I'm like about fourteen hours.
Speaker 5: I slept till three.
Speaker 4: I got pretty much blacked out every night, like I
Speaker 4: was not playing the game, and still like looked around
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, it's halfway, maybe I should
Speaker 4: probably clock in, And then obviously at that point it
Speaker 4: was too late, but I wanted to really play, and
Speaker 4: the reason that it was forty was difficult for me. Obviously,
Speaker 4: whether it came across this way or not, I really
Speaker 4: was putting other people's games ahead of my of my own,
Speaker 4: And it seems like at a certain stage I made
Speaker 4: people choose or whatever, but that was really because it
Speaker 4: was so clear to me that if I'm not around,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be able to kind of help
Speaker 4: the people that I want to help, and I know
Speaker 4: they're going to get fucked over later down the line,
Speaker 4: so I have to draw the line in the sand now.
Speaker 4: And I felt like this was going to be a
Speaker 4: good opportunity to go back and play like fully for myself.
Speaker 4: I knew obviously that a lot of the people we'd
Speaker 4: normally play with weren't going to be there, and I
Speaker 4: didn't know what the theme was or anything, but I
Speaker 4: figured it was just going to be kind of a
Speaker 4: fresh cast, because what are their psychos are going to
Speaker 4: go back?
Speaker 5: And I guess it was just me and Anissa.
Speaker 3: I want a redemption for Leroy Katie Doyle or Katie
Speaker 3: Katie Cooley. There was a few people that were on
Speaker 3: errors even if it was even if they.
Speaker 1: Weren't there, but they had a been there for a while.
Speaker 5: I No, that's so true.
Speaker 3: I mean, Devin was definitely there the longest, and course
Speaker 3: you were. You're crushing it this season. I mean, watching
Speaker 3: you and Leroy compete in this daily challenge, it's not
Speaker 3: a surprise to me. The one thing that stood out
Speaker 3: to me the most about you guys was that you only.
Speaker 1: Did two trips with those balls.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, if I know anything about Dave, he
Speaker 3: is making sure you do less trips. He I like,
Speaker 3: that's what's one of the most important things I've ever
Speaker 3: learned from you strategically in a game. So talk to
Speaker 3: us a little bit about what it's like to work
Speaker 3: with Leroy. Do you feel like you are mostly the
Speaker 3: one coaching or developing the strategy for how you wanted
Speaker 3: to approach each individual challenge or was it like more collaborative.
Speaker 4: So the bar scene has taught me less trips is
Speaker 4: more fun. So when I go to the Yeah, when
Speaker 4: I go to the bar, I order two drinks at
Speaker 4: a time. Yeah, So I don't have to wait in
Speaker 4: line twice. I just I just that strategy over into
Speaker 4: the challenge. Now, someone like Dario who had a horrible strategy,
Speaker 4: I was insane. He was like, He's like, my plan
Speaker 4: is to take one ball at a time so that
Speaker 4: when people see us way out in front, it's going
Speaker 4: to break them mentally. I was like, and then it
Speaker 4: immediately cuts to like Dario and Ashley with one ball
Speaker 4: apiece and everyone's directly.
Speaker 5: Behind them with five balls.
Speaker 4: I was like, how'd that work out for you, budd
Speaker 4: good good strategy. Efficiency is the name of the game.
Speaker 4: As far as who's leading and who's following with me
Speaker 4: and Leroy, he definitely deferred to me in terms of
Speaker 4: like what are you comfortable doing, Let's do that. You
Speaker 4: also weren't allowed to take. I don't think you were
Speaker 4: allowed to take more than five balls. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: what the rules were, but either you weren't allowed to
Speaker 4: or doing two trips of five was the same as
Speaker 4: doing six and four, right, So yeah, we knew we
Speaker 4: were going to do it in two trips and that
Speaker 4: was FESSI and Amber did the same thing. But as
Speaker 4: far as whoever's taken the lead, I think me and
Speaker 4: Leroy have a really good balance of neither one of
Speaker 4: us being super committed to like our own strategy. If
Speaker 4: the other person's really confident in.
Speaker 5: Theirs, I mean, that's good.
Speaker 3: That's obviously so important to like have a good, healthy
Speaker 3: partnership with somebody. I think like it was a little
Speaker 3: shocking in a good way to see Leroy kind of
Speaker 3: be like, I'm actually gonna take the reins on this puzzle.
Speaker 4: Did he actually do that or.
Speaker 1: Was he just saying that in his interview.
Speaker 4: Tangerine puzzles, as Drell famously calls them, are my kryptonite
Speaker 4: in a lot of ways I've lost. I lost a
Speaker 4: lot of them. So I was happy when he was
Speaker 4: like confident, that's what I mean. I was like, oh, no, doubt.
Speaker 4: Like before, we didn't know what the puzzle was before
Speaker 4: we got to the station, So once we got there
Speaker 4: and it was a tanagram, I was like, all means,
Speaker 4: if you feel like you have this, let it rip.
Speaker 4: And he did really well, like he truly. What's funny
Speaker 4: about that is I was I probably did better in
Speaker 4: the obstacle portion, and Leroy did better in the puzzle
Speaker 4: we like reversed roles.
Speaker 1: Mmm, love a little row reversal. He left a little
Speaker 1: row reversal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, lit some dom something crazy, a little switch.
Speaker 1: We love, we love a good switch. Well, you guys
Speaker 1: crushed it. It worked for you. You guys least challenge.
Speaker 4: I loved it and shout out Anissa the cargo net slayer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, said I looked at it like, Devin, as long as.
Speaker 1: You win, I'm safe. Yeah, that was part of my strategy.
Speaker 1: We're looking at him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was no reason. We passed each other on
Speaker 4: the rope at one point and I was like I think.
Speaker 4: I was like Anissa, chill, like, you're good, We're gonna win,
Speaker 4: Like it's fine.
Speaker 1: No, I'm like I'll hold it steady for you. I'm
Speaker 1: like I'll just wait here.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And that's that was in these paired situations like this,
Speaker 4: and had we not had a star and had I
Speaker 4: not felt like there was kind of this whisper going
Speaker 4: around the house that Adam and Steve are going to
Speaker 4: be the house volte and I'm like, okay, well, if
Speaker 4: they win. This seems like a male male team target situation.
Speaker 4: So if they win and they're safe, yeah, we have
Speaker 4: some connections. But also as we're seeing it, The feeling
Speaker 4: in the house overall was like, don't get too comfortable,
Speaker 4: definite Leroy because if Adam and Steve go, you're next
Speaker 4: in line. Like, no one felt like they could beat us,
Speaker 4: to be honest, no one felt like they could beat us.
Speaker 4: So we needed to win, and we did. And I
Speaker 4: don't know, it was a tough decision. I know Sylvia
Speaker 4: and Kelly and are probably pissed about it, but it
Speaker 4: wasn't It certainly wasn't a personal thing. I was looking
Speaker 4: at it more like this is just one of the
Speaker 4: teams that I really don't know where they stand right, Like,
Speaker 4: I know they've got connections to Ashley, but then Kelly
Speaker 4: An's got connections to Amber, and then Shane and Devon
Speaker 4: get put in the blender there as well. It's like
Speaker 4: we it was really hard to determine who was working
Speaker 4: with who, especially because I was so bored that I
Speaker 4: was so bored, they were so bored.
Speaker 5: They were painfully boring.
Speaker 1: We cross where, we cross worded heavily.
Speaker 4: BESI was the most interesting person there. It was insane.
Speaker 4: It was absolutely insane. I mean, obviously outside of a
Speaker 4: NISS who I have a relationship with outside of the game,
Speaker 4: I went in there thinking to myself, well, someone's got
Speaker 4: to have something.
Speaker 5: And then like Daria walks in, I'm like, whoa big miss?
Speaker 4: All Star? Unbelievable?
Speaker 5: All Star were like no star review on Yelp.
Speaker 4: Or like one star review.
Speaker 7: Don't go here, Ashley Kelsey, so a snorefest. Oh I'm sorry,
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, nice person, snorefest.
Speaker 4: And also, can I just say one thing that I
Speaker 4: also just absolutely loathe about most of the people that
Speaker 4: were there. It was fucking talk about my baby time
Speaker 4: all the time. It was all the time, everyone talk
Speaker 4: about our babies.
Speaker 5: Now, shut up.
Speaker 4: No one cares about your baby.
Speaker 5: I certainly do not care about your child. I don't
Speaker 5: care about them at all.
Speaker 4: I hope they are alive, and I hope they're healthy
Speaker 4: and having a good life. But I don't want to talk.
Speaker 5: I don't want to talk about them or to them.
Speaker 4: I have no interest in it.
Speaker 5: Everyone just kept being like my cat and my wife.
Speaker 4: I was like, Jesus Christ's five weeks, everybody.
Speaker 5: Relax, We're gonna be fine.
Speaker 4: So I pretty much just buried myself in crosswords and
Speaker 4: and uh in Carlsberg's and and uh. Yeah. It was
Speaker 4: a snorefest.
Speaker 5: So I I mean, I feel it.
Speaker 1: I feel apps and a lot of crosswords.
Speaker 3: It feels like you really had to get that out.
Speaker 3: So I'm so happy that we were able to be
Speaker 3: there for you to I know.
Speaker 4: Thank you, And I'm so sorry about everyone with children.
Speaker 4: They're so interesting.
Speaker 5: Hey, quick newsflash. No one cares about your kid except
Speaker 5: for you on my wa who cares about your cat?
Speaker 5: No one else cares.
Speaker 4: If they're acting like they care, they don't.
Speaker 5: They're lying to your face.
Speaker 3: You know what, I have to say that it's really
Speaker 3: hard to care about normal life stuff when you're in
Speaker 3: a game, playing for a lot of money, and you're
Speaker 3: worried about if the person you're talking to is manipulative
Speaker 3: like Frank or as you say, just lying straight to
Speaker 3: your face, you know, like like you just never know
Speaker 3: in a house like that, it's very difficult to take
Speaker 3: people for face value in that game.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 4: Things I don't want to do talk about your kid,
Speaker 4: look at photos of your kid, sing your kid happy birthday,
Speaker 4: all things that happened in a one hour. In one
Speaker 4: hour or honestly, what they should do is they should
Speaker 4: put them all in a room and start a timer
Speaker 4: and give them an hour to talk about their kids,
Speaker 4: and then and then hard ice on your children.
Speaker 1: For twenty three hours a day.
Speaker 4: Okay, get you get your what do they call it
Speaker 4: in jail? You get your yard time. Okay, I'll go
Speaker 4: out in the yard talk about your kids. When you come.
Speaker 5: Back to your cell. You need to not talk about
Speaker 5: your children anymore. Okay, I'm not all stars.
Speaker 1: Six parents first, non parents.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, brutal.
Speaker 3: Okay, No, it's good that you got that out, so
Speaker 3: we know how you feel about talking about children. How
Speaker 3: do you feel about people saying I'm sick, don't vote
Speaker 3: me into elimination.
Speaker 4: I like it more than talking about people's kids. I'd
Speaker 4: put that one notch above. But so to be fair,
Speaker 4: this was.
Speaker 1: Kind of really was very sick.
Speaker 5: I mean, we saw the sweat.
Speaker 4: We made him sit on the front of the bus,
Speaker 4: we created a barrier. Yeah, I'm actually shocked that Steve
Speaker 4: didn't have a remedy, some sort of remedy. I also
Speaker 4: do want to get to Steve's hair. At some point Elite.
Speaker 4: I didn't know they were giving out perms Steve. I
Speaker 4: would have got one, bud unbelievable. Apparently, I don't know
Speaker 4: I wasn't sure. He looked great. His hair looks unreal
Speaker 4: when he lets it down. I just we never saw
Speaker 4: it because he never wore it down in the house.
Speaker 1: A lot of pontiadbands before his interviews.
Speaker 5: He must have been getting perms because it looks great. Nice,
Speaker 5: looks nice.
Speaker 1: But have you seen his hands?
Speaker 5: His hands are elite? Yeah, his hand model yeah? Oh
Speaker 5: oh trust me.
Speaker 3: Did he talk about it a lot? Like as much
Speaker 3: as people talked about children.
Speaker 4: H Dude. Here's the thing about Steve is he's actually
Speaker 4: super interesting and I like him a lot. People get
Speaker 4: him going and then they're like, oh my god, he
Speaker 4: won't stop talking about his hands. It's like, dude, you
Speaker 4: asked yeah, they run, You asked him about it, You
Speaker 4: asked him about his beautiful hands. You sit there and listen.
Speaker 4: He's been he's been patiently waiting for a turn in
Speaker 4: between child time to talk about his hands. Now you listen.
Speaker 3: It's just so funny because if you're in the Challenge house,
Speaker 3: you know that people talk in circles about what they
Speaker 3: have to talk about, Like everyone's on a loop.
Speaker 1: Like everyone comes it's been five minutes.
Speaker 3: They're coming back to their kids or they're coming back
Speaker 3: to They're like, I can just imagine.
Speaker 1: And the thing is is.
Speaker 3: You you didn't know that many people this time around,
Speaker 3: so you're meeting them.
Speaker 4: Yo. They were chasing me around the yard, like can
Speaker 4: I tell you about my kid? I was like, no,
Speaker 4: get away from me. They thought I was running for exercise.
Speaker 4: I was just trying to stay moving. I was just
Speaker 4: trying to stay moving. So I was at an earshot.
Speaker 1: I a circular path that we would like.
Speaker 4: They were out, They like had picket signs. What do
Speaker 4: we want to do talk about our kids? When do
Speaker 4: we want to do it? Now?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: When do we want to do it? At every waking moment.
Speaker 5: I can't handle it.
Speaker 1: I can't handle this.
Speaker 4: Adam.
Speaker 5: Adam was writing his kid's names on his forearms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, how do you think you're gonna feel
Speaker 3: if you have a kid.
Speaker 1: You don't think you're going to be doing that.
Speaker 4: I don't think I'll be writing their names on my
Speaker 4: forearms on a game show. I could be wrong. My
Speaker 4: life could take a turn. I I'm not sure, but
Speaker 4: if I had to guess, I would say probably not.
Speaker 4: Keep in mind, I flushed Kyle's ultrasound photo down the
Speaker 4: toilet in thirty seven, So just in general, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear about that ship.
Speaker 1: Watch that were you done?
Speaker 4: No, he tried to get He tried to show me
Speaker 4: his thing, and I was like, this is gonna, this
Speaker 4: is gonna emotionally distract you, and I can't have it
Speaker 4: because you're my number one.
Speaker 5: So I took his ultra sound flushed it in the
Speaker 5: game Kyle, and in the game so fucked hilarious.
Speaker 1: What about Kelly? What about Kelly?
Speaker 3: And she talks about her dogs a lot or dogs
Speaker 3: a lot, which and you know me, I'm an animal lover.
Speaker 3: But is it was it the same amount as talks
Speaker 3: about kids.
Speaker 1: Or is it just more of an interview thing.
Speaker 4: I don't think she talked about dogs that much. I
Speaker 4: didn't talk about dogs too much. Kelly's actually Kelly and
Speaker 4: was relatively chill.
Speaker 1: I'm a Kellyan fan.
Speaker 5: There really wasn't anybody that I disliked.
Speaker 4: There just wasn't many people that I liked and I
Speaker 4: and I don't know how that plays out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, I'm a big Steve guy.
Speaker 4: Steve was one of the more interesting people, like like,
Speaker 4: I mean that genuinely, Yeah, Steve is one of the
Speaker 4: one of the more interesting people that was that was
Speaker 4: there for me, like.
Speaker 1: Very smart, he knows a lot about a lot of things.
Speaker 5: Yeah he doesn't.
Speaker 4: I mean, he likes the chat. He's a chatter.
Speaker 5: He's a chatty cat chatter.
Speaker 1: He's a chatty cat.
Speaker 3: I liked him on All Stars four, so I was excited.
Speaker 3: It's just so interesting, Like I know you so well,
Speaker 3: so I was really wondering who you were gonna vibe with.
Speaker 3: And I think that's like another green flag with around Steve,
Speaker 3: because I also feel like I would really like him too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, Steve, Steve is great.
Speaker 4: And it wasn't that I again that I didn't I like,
Speaker 4: it wasn't that I was like not vibing with people.
Speaker 4: It's that for whatever reason. And I think, honestly, it's
Speaker 4: like early in the game, people are trying to play
Speaker 4: it safe.
Speaker 5: I don't know. Maybe it just didn't kind of it
Speaker 5: like didn't click, but it was.
Speaker 4: It was a little boring.
Speaker 1: Well I'm glad you got that out, all of that,
Speaker 1: every part of it. All Right, we have to take
Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get back to the show.
Speaker 3: You definitely stirred the pot, you know, when you had
Speaker 3: your power with Leroy, You guys went around, you had
Speaker 3: all of the conversations, and it completely threw all of
Speaker 3: us for a loop when you ended up choosing kelly
Speaker 3: In and Sylvia to go into the elimination.
Speaker 1: When did you decide to do that?
Speaker 4: We had narrowed it down. We go over to Adam
Speaker 4: and Steve. We go Adam Steve, take three teams off
Speaker 4: the list. We don't you're already sick. You got fucked
Speaker 4: over by the house. We don't want to like, we're
Speaker 4: not putting in stars for this reason. So we've taken
Speaker 4: like two teams off the list.
Speaker 5: Take three off the list. Who do you not want
Speaker 5: to go against?
Speaker 4: At least we can do that for you. And then
Speaker 4: based off the teams that they didn't decide, we were
Speaker 4: left with I believe Shane and Davon, kelly In and Sylvia,
Speaker 4: and then Frank and Sam and they were like, we're
Speaker 4: fine with any of these options. So we just was like,
Speaker 4: Shane and Davon, I haven't I don't have a huge
Speaker 4: relationship with either one of them, but I've played with
Speaker 4: Shane before, I've done the podcast a few times with Davon.
Speaker 5: I think she's hilarious, so I wasn't going to go
Speaker 5: that route.
Speaker 4: And then we had a conversation with Frank and Sam
Speaker 4: and they just, I guess, gave us a little bit
Speaker 4: more faith that we would be prioritized. So it just
Speaker 4: it wasn't that we had anything against KellyAnn and Sylvia.
Speaker 5: It was just they just ended up kind of being
Speaker 5: the odd team out.
Speaker 3: Well, now that we've heard Frank say verbatim that he
Speaker 3: can manipulate you easily because you have an ego, do
Speaker 3: you regret not putting in Frank.
Speaker 4: And Sam that ego? Frank talking about someone else's ego
Speaker 4: is quite quite the kettle hot scenario if you ask me.
Speaker 4: I think he's a great guy, but he conceded is
Speaker 4: an understatement. Frank does believe he is God's gift to
Speaker 4: this green Earth, and he is very handsome, he's smart
Speaker 4: as hell, he is in good shape. I find him
Speaker 4: to be a little mean. I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 4: I think he's a little mean to Sam. I think
Speaker 4: he was mean to her kind of the whole time,
Speaker 4: and he's kind of covering it with like this weird
Speaker 4: support that's like very see through to me. But No,
Speaker 4: Frank had zero input on our decision to put Kelly in. Essentially,
Speaker 4: we were like, hey, there's three teams we're gonna pick from.
Speaker 4: You're one of them. Make a case for the other two.
Speaker 4: And he made a case for both of the other two.
Speaker 4: But no, Frank, Frank wasn't manipulating. I don't think as
Speaker 4: much as he thinks or thought that he was. I
Speaker 4: can see why he would want we always have to
Speaker 4: remember these interviews happened later. And I think sometimes things
Speaker 4: happen in the game where you're like, Okay, I've done
Speaker 4: this thing. Now let me go back retroactively and make
Speaker 4: it seem like this is what was happening the whole time.
Speaker 4: And for those of us that have done the show
Speaker 4: several times, we know that that is a strategy used.
Speaker 4: I did it to you. Remember when I couldn't to me? Yeah,
Speaker 4: remember when I couldn't pull the rope up And I
Speaker 4: was like, I totally did this on purpose. It's like, no,
Speaker 4: I couldn't pull the rope up because I was a
Speaker 4: little weany.
Speaker 1: Like I don't even care. I'm like, you were just
Speaker 1: trying to get me.
Speaker 5: You're trying to get me as your rival.
Speaker 1: Turns out you got me as your ride or die.
Speaker 5: I know how that, how.
Speaker 4: That happened, How that happened, Big swing and a miss.
Speaker 5: Did you guys watch my ridiculousness episode or what?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, no you're watch it.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's so good.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 4: I just want to say this to any challengers that
Speaker 4: are listening to this, which is probably zero, but if
Speaker 4: you do get the opportunity, if you get the opportunity
Speaker 4: to go and do it, it's very fun. And uh,
Speaker 4: it was a great experience. So thanks shout out to
Speaker 4: them for having me. And uh, what a night that
Speaker 4: was when we got double double Devin.
Speaker 5: You know Double Devin.
Speaker 3: We got Double Devin first episode of All Stars, and
Speaker 3: then we went we went straight into ridiculousness. And I
Speaker 3: think what killed me the most was your Instagram stories
Speaker 3: where you were like and at ten pm, after hours
Speaker 3: spicy content.
Speaker 5: I was so I died, I was laughing so hard.
Speaker 4: I just I want everybody to know that I crack
Speaker 4: myself up.
Speaker 1: I think it's so clear.
Speaker 4: I know there just hooting and howling over here on
Speaker 4: a daily basis, so low. I called toy yesterday. I
Speaker 4: was like, hey, have you uh, hey, you liking your house?
Speaker 4: And she was like, I never leave it. I was like,
Speaker 4: I know me too, it's great. I'm just in here
Speaker 4: fucking cracking myself up. It's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just have to leave it for three months
Speaker 3: at a time, or in your in your situation, six
Speaker 3: months or eight months in Vietnam, and then you go
Speaker 3: back and you watch yourself in Vietnam from your house.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not that bad.
Speaker 4: Go to Vietnam, come home, watch yourself in Vietnam, rinse
Speaker 4: and repeat.
Speaker 1: Go back to Vietnam down the street from your old house.
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, everyone, don't overthink it.
Speaker 4: Book a ticket to Vietnam.
Speaker 2: Oh I can't nice.
Speaker 5: Nice, don't overthink it.
Speaker 3: You know who I think probably won't be booking a
Speaker 3: ticket to Vietnam anytime soon.
Speaker 1: And soh I.
Speaker 3: Was gonna say KellyAnn and Sylvia because they seem to
Speaker 3: be leaving on good terms and they both have weddings
Speaker 3: to plant per this episode.
Speaker 2: And Sylvia loved you, it seemed she was. She was
Speaker 2: so excited, she was happy to be in there.
Speaker 4: I did get that invite, but I did switch addresses.
Speaker 4: So I imagine it probably just went to the wrong place.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about them for a second.
Speaker 3: I want to to I want to do a direct
Speaker 3: quote from Sylvia Devin, you can kiss my flat ass.
Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? I?
Speaker 4: Uh would, I left?
Speaker 5: I would so funny. I would rather kiss Sylvia's flat
Speaker 5: ass than get her armpit sweat on my shoulder.
Speaker 4: Disgusting.
Speaker 1: You didn't love them just bonding over. I did what
Speaker 1: I really did.
Speaker 5: I hated that. I hated that.
Speaker 4: I may have hated that more than I hate when
Speaker 4: someone has a condiment stain on their shirt in a
Speaker 4: water park, which I hate. It's a it's a niche hate,
Speaker 4: but I loathe it.
Speaker 5: I had that.
Speaker 4: I hated that. I hated that. But yeah, I don't
Speaker 4: think they'll be going back to uh the Vietnam anytime soon. Honestly,
Speaker 4: they were pretty entertaining. We in retrospect, we should have
Speaker 4: kept them around.
Speaker 5: But again, I don't know.
Speaker 4: It was early, no one had really done anything. You
Speaker 4: know how it is like when you win one early
Speaker 4: and everyone's kind of just like promising the same thing.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know how you figure it out?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's like okay, well, whatever one of you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know, pick your poison essentially, so yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know. They were you know, gone too soon
Speaker 4: hashtag gone too soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I definitely feel like Kelly Ann and Sylvia brought.
Speaker 1: It like their fight was.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously for them it was very real, but
Speaker 3: like they they brought it this season for them, every every.
Speaker 1: Word, Yeah, the seed next Tuesday and she meant it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they weren't faking it. There wasn't like the
Speaker 2: you're okay. They were really like, bitch, I don't like you,
Speaker 2: and I don't like you either.
Speaker 4: I was disappointed Beth was gone so soon. I was
Speaker 4: really disappointed.
Speaker 2: That's what's starting to really Uh you were a big
Speaker 2: Beth guys.
Speaker 1: More about Beth.
Speaker 5: I'm a big Beth guy. I gotta just call it
Speaker 5: how I see it. I know people.
Speaker 4: Don't love her. I know she may have trying to
Speaker 4: try to uh ruin a couple of relationships along the way.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm a big Beath guy, you know, Yeah, I just
Speaker 4: damn uh she She was nice to me and I
Speaker 4: thought she was pretty funny and you know, so like
Speaker 4: you know how I really liked Jody as well, because.
Speaker 1: I really like Jody.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to compare Beth and Jody because they
Speaker 4: are very different, but in my interactions with them, they
Speaker 4: were both like kind of like down to hang out,
Speaker 4: drink beers and like had a little something going. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like Beth was getting after it a little bit, so
Speaker 4: that's awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, I.
Speaker 2: Like beer pong, dude, I'm telling you.
Speaker 4: It was probably like of people I didn't know super
Speaker 4: well going in that I enjoyed hanging out with Beth
Speaker 4: was up there. Sam's great. We get to see a
Speaker 4: little Sam and a Nissa moment in this episode, which
Speaker 4: I thought was which I thought was great, And I
Speaker 4: feel the same way about that.
Speaker 1: I always want to support people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was, I was. I felt I did feel
Speaker 4: a little badly for Sam. She got off to kind
Speaker 4: of a rough start obviously, just like with that climate,
Speaker 4: it's like pretty brutal to to do that type of
Speaker 4: stuff in And I really thought she means she was
Speaker 4: pushing herself to failure, So like that that is at
Speaker 4: just because your your failure level may not be where
Speaker 4: somebody else's is, the will power to push yourself to
Speaker 4: failure is something to be admired and something you should
Speaker 4: get credit for. And I was just looking at that
Speaker 4: of like, the mental fortitude it takes to push yourself
Speaker 4: to the point of your body failing before giving up
Speaker 4: is like all I would want to see in a partner.
Speaker 4: And so I thought that was a cool moment when
Speaker 4: you were kind of giving her flowers for that and
Speaker 4: you said, of course.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: And Anissa another direct quote, she called you beautiful and smart.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? I think they're both accurate.
Speaker 1: I knew you were going to say that. I knew.
Speaker 2: I think it's nice to hear those things. I think
Speaker 2: it's nice to be to, you know, do something kind
Speaker 2: and know that it's it's genuine and that someone received
Speaker 2: it the way that it was intended. And I only
Speaker 2: wanted her I knew how. I know how she feels,
Speaker 2: and you know, our experiences might be a little different,
Speaker 2: but I wanted her to feel comfortable. Yes, she's stellar
Speaker 2: at crosswords, so is she She really got some good
Speaker 2: She really got some one that I could have never
Speaker 2: figured out.
Speaker 4: We would call in the closer. Sam was the closer.
Speaker 4: We'd call in the closer and she'd be like, uh,
Speaker 4: I don't know, like, uh, jimminy crickets were like, what
Speaker 4: how the hell did you get that?
Speaker 5: She's like I saw the jay Like what he's like,
Speaker 5: humpty dumpty. I'm like, are you just saying like riddles?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: It actually works to.
Speaker 4: Keep guessing nursery rhymes. What's going on here?
Speaker 1: Why do it get so dark over there? Devin? I know, Dave,
Speaker 1: I need you to put it on because I'm very.
Speaker 3: You're just fainting into the abyss where Okay, you're back?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was quite nervous.
Speaker 4: He went out.
Speaker 5: It's terrible.
Speaker 2: I want to know, Devin. You did have some notes
Speaker 2: written down? Is there anything we missed? Anything?
Speaker 4: Well, okay, so let's just see what I have written
Speaker 4: down that I kind of had questions about.
Speaker 5: So here's something Shane said.
Speaker 4: Is it Is it a widely accepted fact that men
Speaker 4: can't handle sickness?
Speaker 5: I've never heard this before. Yes, this is a thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we do say that men can't handle like
Speaker 3: the common cold, and like women are so powerful and
Speaker 3: strong we give birth and can have fevers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's a thing and periods and all out.
Speaker 4: Well, I was I was unsure if that was a
Speaker 4: saying I'd never heard Okay, so that is true. Now
Speaker 4: onto my second note card. Veronica states during the challenge
Speaker 4: that she believes she is doing a good job of
Speaker 4: laying low, and I just would like to say, Veronica,
Speaker 4: I agree you are. You are certainly doing that. If
Speaker 4: that is a strategy, congratulations, you have nailed it. It
Speaker 4: seems like it's it's easy to say that's your strategy
Speaker 4: when it is the only thing you are capable of doing.
Speaker 4: But needless to say, I applaud you on doing that strategy.
Speaker 1: That's not the emoji that I am.
Speaker 3: For anyone who can't see this, which is everyone because
Speaker 3: we don't have a video podcast and he's just putting
Speaker 3: her face over her hands over her face.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just thought that was hilarious of
Speaker 4: it being like, oh, yeah, no, this is strictly strategy based.
Speaker 4: I was like, really, because it seems like probably just
Speaker 4: the only possible option.
Speaker 5: I can't Dario had another knee slapper.
Speaker 4: I guess that.
Speaker 5: Something along the lines of, I guess the challenge has
Speaker 5: changed since eighty eight or eighty six random years to pick.
Speaker 4: Also a little bit of agism from Dario. Don't love
Speaker 4: it don't love it, Dario. Yeah, not only the same
Speaker 4: joke that's been recycled I don't know four hundred times
Speaker 4: on this challenge.
Speaker 5: Oh it's an old person wheelchair eighties. It's like, come on, dude,
Speaker 5: dinosaurs Yeah, like din something gray hair, It's like, can
Speaker 5: you for the love of God?
Speaker 4: So you know, yeah, Dario with another absolute zinger, would
Speaker 4: expect nothing less from him, and then my and then
Speaker 4: my and then my final My final note, which I'm
Speaker 4: actually gonna just putting bullet points on a T shirt
Speaker 4: is my mom had a.
Speaker 5: Jaguar, I had a Volvo.
Speaker 4: I grew up in a three story house, and a
Speaker 4: thousand people went to my high.
Speaker 8: School where and in what world is that something that
Speaker 8: we are using to I guess prove a point.
Speaker 4: And if so, what point is it?
Speaker 5: I don't know, Oh exactly, Like I don't, I don't.
Speaker 4: It was just I thought it was random.
Speaker 5: Volvo really got me.
Speaker 4: A thousand people went to my high school had me dying.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what what does that mean? I don't know
Speaker 4: what that means. So if people want to buy them,
Speaker 4: they'll be on my website where Devin Walker and it's
Speaker 4: just going to say my mom had a Jaguar.
Speaker 5: I had a Volvo.
Speaker 4: Oh, I lived in a three story house, and then
Speaker 4: a thousand people went to my high school. And those
Speaker 4: are those are all my notes actually. Oh and then
Speaker 4: also I have written down Steve's hair is elite hashtag herm. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's that's the last I already talked about that so
Speaker 4: we can.
Speaker 5: Yeah, those are all the notes I had from the challenge.
Speaker 2: My face hurts and that's why no one can see
Speaker 2: us when we do this, because I had botox. But
Speaker 2: you would know because I don't know what to do
Speaker 2: with my face because it still fucking moves and it
Speaker 2: is involuntary at this point.
Speaker 4: Oh no, not involuntary facial movement like what And he
Speaker 4: said not that.
Speaker 1: Dad's gonna put a shirt.
Speaker 4: With that quote.
Speaker 5: Someone called the paramedic.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, first world problems. Am I right? But Dario, you.
Speaker 5: Got a zinger for that. You got a boatox zinger
Speaker 5: up your sleeve.
Speaker 4: Buddy.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm old and I need botox.
Speaker 4: Would be like, oh stiff crowd.
Speaker 5: Oh god, listen, kid is a comedian.
Speaker 1: Do you know who was a comedian? I'll say this
Speaker 1: right before we go. Adam had some great ball jokes
Speaker 1: and you didn't love them.
Speaker 4: I loved them. God Jesus, I will just say this
Speaker 4: between Ashley and Adam, the whites are whiting uh aggressively.
Speaker 4: It's so absurd. I was like, holy shit, this is
Speaker 4: what people mean, this is what they're talking about.
Speaker 5: Okay, I got it.
Speaker 4: Unreal. Uh So it's a good place to end there,
Speaker 4: I guess. But yeah, two of the two of the whitest.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I've forgotten. Beth was there too, Love Beth,
Speaker 4: but what a white?
Speaker 5: What a white?
Speaker 2: So this was definitely all said on the show, and
Speaker 2: I never cracked up more in my life when Adam
Speaker 2: had to then say, We're like, Adam, what do you
Speaker 2: think bb W a bbl is?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I wasn't there for that, but yes, you were.
Speaker 1: Was outside with the whitest of the white.
Speaker 5: I was probably disassociating, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But I'm bump so good nailed it well, Dave, Thank
Speaker 3: you so much for coming on the podcast and literally
Speaker 3: being my favoritepisode of the season. Yeah, my face is
Speaker 3: literally in pain. Where can people follow you? And again,
Speaker 3: where can they buy your merch and where can they
Speaker 3: support you? Any other platform that you'd like to shine
Speaker 3: a little light on.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 5: My Patreon. Devin Walker reacts, Okay, you have Patreon. I
Speaker 5: have a Patreon, and I react to things and.
Speaker 4: It's pretty funny.
Speaker 5: It's pretty funny, and people really like it, and we're
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Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 4: A lot of rants, So just hop on there and
Speaker 4: I'll be recording live from the Bahamas for the remainder
Speaker 4: of the season because your boys catching a jet plane
Speaker 4: out of town. Also, I believe there's still tickets available
Speaker 4: for Challenge Mania for Thodderdale, yes yep, which will be
Speaker 4: happening the day after Tory's birthday, So if you want
Speaker 4: to come celebrate with Dave and and Rachel, which should
Speaker 4: not be awkward at all, we will be there.
Speaker 2: It's so nice that you took time out of your
Speaker 2: busy day to come on here and chat with us.
Speaker 2: It is always fun to have you. You are hilarious
Speaker 2: and now I'm gonna need more botox because of it.
Speaker 4: Oh that's nice. Well, glad I ruined your forehead and
Speaker 4: thanks for having me. Everybody, and just remember that your
Speaker 4: feelings are.
Speaker 6: Valid and you like to eat salad, and you like
Speaker 6: to eat salad.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 1: That's so nicer. Two things.
Speaker 6: That's right, ladies, god Hian Devin is truly the best.
Speaker 1: He does he does, he is the best. He's so funny.
Speaker 1: I love. I still think he should be one of
Speaker 1: our hosts.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: I mean if we if we ever had to host
Speaker 3: in a trio, he would be the other.
Speaker 1: He would be hanging out with Dave. It's true, it'd
Speaker 1: be two a nieces and a day. I mean two
Speaker 1: days in a Nissa. I'm sorry, my brains, it'd be
Speaker 1: called the Dad Podcast.
Speaker 3: Well, Anissa, even though we can't talk to Dave anymore,
Speaker 3: we can still find you on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Where can we.
Speaker 3: Follow you, support you and tell you that we love you?
Speaker 2: It's Anissa MTV. That's a n E E s a
Speaker 2: m t V on Instagram. And Tory, where can they
Speaker 2: follow you and show you some love and some support?
Speaker 1: You guys can show me some loves in's and support
Speaker 1: sins at Tory Underscore deal on Instagram. But more importantly,
Speaker 1: thank you for joining.
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