WEBVTT - Sexual Expression Sparks Debates

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's up. Family. It's your girl to me Ka

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<v Speaker 1>d Mallory.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's your boy, my son and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are your host of street politicians, the place

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<v Speaker 1>where the streets and politics me.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally, you don't sound like you're not saying it trying

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<v Speaker 3>to copy how well I say it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've told you already to what it is, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing that. If you want to keep reiterating the same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>then go on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Copy me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I and you were on at different parts of

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<v Speaker 3>the last few weeks. You and others have been on

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<v Speaker 3>the road. We've all been on the road together. But

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<v Speaker 3>I was on the road for about three weeks. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I can sustain living in America,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I might have to move because the call lost

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<v Speaker 3>of survival. And by the way, I tried to do

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<v Speaker 3>one or two fun things too, like when everybody was

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<v Speaker 3>gone and it was just me by myself, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I try to like do a little fun and I

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to just like literally by myself, focus on

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<v Speaker 3>a few fun things. And I don't understand how people

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<v Speaker 3>are surviving with these numbers they keep saying there's no inflation,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean no recession. They keep saying there's no recession.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, and I don't hear it usually

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<v Speaker 3>when the Democrats lie, because they lie and they try

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<v Speaker 3>to cover up things. Of course, every political party is

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<v Speaker 3>going to try to suppress any negative information because they

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<v Speaker 3>don't want when especially when they're coming up on election time,

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<v Speaker 3>to have you know, certain dark clouds open. So every

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<v Speaker 3>administration does that. Every political part already is gonna speak

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<v Speaker 3>talk up their good side. So but I also don't

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<v Speaker 3>hear a counterbalance from the Republicans saying that there is

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<v Speaker 3>a recession. It seems like no one is saying there's

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<v Speaker 3>a recession. Maybe there, of course they are analysts than others.

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<v Speaker 3>But I a person who am not I'm not struggling.

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<v Speaker 3>Am telling you it is way.

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<v Speaker 1>Too expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Flights, hotel, car services, just services in general. Three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty dollars for makeup, you know, four hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's two hundred dollars. It's a lot of money

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<v Speaker 3>to survive, and it's just it makes me feel very

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I just know, and I know I keep

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<v Speaker 3>ask saying the same thing almost every show. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's getting worse.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I definitely agree with you. You know, of

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<v Speaker 2>course living is has skyrocketed, and being you know, being

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<v Speaker 2>in a position to actually be able to pay your

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<v Speaker 2>bills out worrying about that and then like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to have a good time. You actually see how

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<v Speaker 2>fast when he goes and you it's just like thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars here, fifty five hundred dollars here, every this and that,

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<v Speaker 2>this and that, just trying just to maintain and the

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<v Speaker 2>average person, you know, has to be dealing with a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I know, case the point, we just see

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<v Speaker 2>all these robberies are starting to happen, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that's like who who who was it

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<v Speaker 2>that that got robbed?

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<v Speaker 1>We damns and indrests. He's an actor.

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<v Speaker 3>And then of course, you know, our our auntie Tina,

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<v Speaker 3>Tina knows our house was also burglarized where an entire

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<v Speaker 3>safe was removed. And listen, that's very triggering to me because,

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, my son's father was murdered over a

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<v Speaker 3>safety and removed from a high house that he was

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<v Speaker 3>living in with some people in Pennsylvania. And the one

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<v Speaker 3>thing I know is that whenever somebody physically moves a

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<v Speaker 3>whole safe, they have information about where it is, how

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<v Speaker 3>long they're gonna have to get it out, because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure and by the way, we haven't even heard Tina

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<v Speaker 3>Knowles confirmed anything about this. So they're saying it's a

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars in the safe. You know, the media that

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<v Speaker 3>they make up anything all the time, So we don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how much money was really in it. But a

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars is a lot of money to move. And

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<v Speaker 3>so if they did move a million and jury in

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<v Speaker 3>a safe, the safe was not light, that means that

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<v Speaker 3>they knew they had time to physically move the safe.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's funny, Masan because my parents never told the

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<v Speaker 3>neighbors when they were going to be out of town.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the social media erar you, it's hard for

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<v Speaker 3>people not to know that you're on tour with your

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<v Speaker 3>daughter in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's hard for people

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<v Speaker 1>not to.

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<v Speaker 3>Know that you're on a yacht with Magic Johnson and

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<v Speaker 3>Cookie Johnson and they, you know, they do their trip

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<v Speaker 3>every year.

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel Jackson.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a big trip that I you know, I always

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<v Speaker 3>sit and just fantasize on what it would be like

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<v Speaker 3>to spend time just sitting with them and listening to

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<v Speaker 3>the wisdom and the stories and the funnies. So this

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<v Speaker 3>is stuff that people are watching. So while you're out

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<v Speaker 3>of town, they know how long it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>before you retire.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and people are hungry. You know that It goes

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<v Speaker 2>down to that the inflation that they say is not

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<v Speaker 2>happening in the recession, they say, we're not in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people are really like we're talking about that. People are

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<v Speaker 2>really trying to figure out because there's a lifestyle and

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<v Speaker 2>I think what happens with social media, it also shows

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<v Speaker 2>shows people really living and enjoying life. Right, And if

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<v Speaker 2>you're just.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody, they look like they.

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<v Speaker 2>Are, well, they look like they are, but you don't

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<v Speaker 2>really look like you. Are you on a boat, you

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<v Speaker 2>know in the Seven Seeds with with five or six

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<v Speaker 2>millionaires and billionaires, you don't really look like you have

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<v Speaker 2>you at a party surrounded by the top artists or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And everybody got on and they got a

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<v Speaker 2>whole page on how much the watches cost. They had

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<v Speaker 2>fifty people that was in a certain party and they

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<v Speaker 2>were showing the watches that range anywhere from fifty to

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars. They were just showing the watches that

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<v Speaker 2>each of them had on, So it don't really look

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<v Speaker 2>like you actually can you can pretty much concur that

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<v Speaker 2>these people are living their best life.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you but you don't know what people got

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<v Speaker 3>going on, you just know you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just trying to say, it's hard for you

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<v Speaker 2>to believe that they not. You know, when you look

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<v Speaker 2>and you like, you know, I know where I would

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<v Speaker 2>be enjoying myself with that. But you got about fifty

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<v Speaker 2>dollars dollars in your pocket, the bills is coming, the

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<v Speaker 2>kids is hungry, you know, the gas, you got your

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<v Speaker 2>check engine light on. You know, Oh, you're young and

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<v Speaker 2>just impressionable. So it's a lot. It's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>pressures that I realized that this generation deals with that

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't have to do. We just had to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with seeing the people from our block have a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of things that we didn't have. But when you go

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<v Speaker 2>to the social media and it looks like everybody in

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<v Speaker 2>the world is doing better than you, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lot. It's a lot of stress. So with

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<v Speaker 2>I say all the time, poverty is violence, man. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I'm thankful that there was nobody in those homes.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that the only thing it was with some

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<v Speaker 2>property that they probably have and so on. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>probably can ensure and get back whatever it is that

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<v Speaker 2>they lost, but you know, we just had some real

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<v Speaker 2>tough times.

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<v Speaker 1>No it is, I mean, and and the robber, the burglaries.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody has to be aware because it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in my house, it's a total different situation because there

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<v Speaker 3>are people here all the time, twenty four hours a day,

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<v Speaker 3>round the clock. It's somebody in the house, people watching

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<v Speaker 3>my house. You know, we have it set up that way.

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<v Speaker 3>But and I'm not saying that there's not in Tina

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<v Speaker 3>Knowles's house either. Obviously she didn't have the same you know, resource.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't have the same resources that she has.

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<v Speaker 3>But I actually live with other people, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, So it's different. It's a total different situation.

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<v Speaker 3>I live with other people, so it's people always around. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 3>when I say we're going to Kentucky to fight Daniel Cameron,

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<v Speaker 3>or we're going to the exact spot where aj Owens

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<v Speaker 3>was murdered, when I say those things, people know that

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<v Speaker 3>you're not around, you're not at home, or at least

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<v Speaker 3>they think that you're not at home.

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<v Speaker 1>And just like you said, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Glad that no one was in those homes that was harmed.

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<v Speaker 3>The other side of it is, I'm glad you didn't

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<v Speaker 3>walk into somebody's house trying to steal their stuff and

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<v Speaker 3>they were home and put a bullet all the way

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<v Speaker 3>through your behind. So this is a time that people

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<v Speaker 3>are living real dangerous because folks is not gonna let

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<v Speaker 3>you just take their stuff because you going through whatever

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<v Speaker 3>you go through, they're not going to allow it to

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<v Speaker 3>have it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna see more people.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever see I don't know if I ever

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<v Speaker 3>told you, or maybe I did send it to you

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<v Speaker 3>when the Uber Eats or one of those delivery services

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<v Speaker 3>when he tried to twist the doorknob of a woman

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<v Speaker 3>and the woman pulled a gun on him and held

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<v Speaker 3>him at at a gunpoint until the police arrived. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna mess around and go up in something and

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<v Speaker 3>find out that people are not playing about their stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what I think is so funny. If

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<v Speaker 3>it it's true that there was a million dollars in

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<v Speaker 3>Teena Ole's house, right, if it's true. Now, these are

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<v Speaker 3>people who had massive resources, massive resources, and yet and

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<v Speaker 3>still she still has some cash in. Now, black coats

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<v Speaker 3>gonna put some cash in the house in case anything

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<v Speaker 3>shall have it happened to have That's oh.

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<v Speaker 2>That's old school, Manma. We was taught that. Man, the

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<v Speaker 2>banks might close, don't put all your faith in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>technology and all like, have you some money and just

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<v Speaker 2>in case anything go bad. So you know, yeah, Mama Tina,

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<v Speaker 2>don't play she from the old.

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<v Speaker 1>School at your little cash in the house.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, we don't know that that story is exactly

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<v Speaker 3>as it's being told. So on speaking of money, the

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<v Speaker 3>family of Tyree Nichols is suing the city of Memphis

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<v Speaker 3>for five hundred million dollars and the audacity and I

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<v Speaker 3>get it. Lawyer's gone lawyer right, any system it is

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<v Speaker 3>going to try to protect itself. But they're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get the city of Memphis is trying to get the

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<v Speaker 3>lawsuit drop so that they don't have to pay this

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<v Speaker 3>family to five hundred million dollars. I don't I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what they're talking about. We saw it,

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<v Speaker 3>like everybody saw why it's five hundred million is not

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<v Speaker 3>even enough for the trauma of the whole community. They

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<v Speaker 3>ought to be paying everybody, all of us that had

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<v Speaker 3>to watch Tyree Nichols being beat to death by those officers.

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<v Speaker 3>So the audacity of them to even try to they

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<v Speaker 3>should be saying, let's just settle it quietly. I do understand. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>lawyers are gonna lawyer, but you know, even even I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, you know, it's just like, okay, yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a no brainer. I think y'all figure

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<v Speaker 2>out how you can set or if they were five hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>give them for ninety nine, man, because I ain't got

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<v Speaker 2>a snowballed chance in hell what they did to that man.

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<v Speaker 2>The greediousness, the fact that you know that it even

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<v Speaker 2>happens is you can't you can't. First of all, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't put a price tag on life, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that his mother, his parents, and his family

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<v Speaker 2>have to be reminded of the way he was brutally

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<v Speaker 2>and just beat and you know, it seemed like it

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<v Speaker 2>was so malicious, you know, And the fact that just

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<v Speaker 2>that that vision, yeah, exactly, and just that vision being

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<v Speaker 2>able to go all over your head. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you can put no price. I think, actually you asked me,

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<v Speaker 2>they should be asking for a billion dollars, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just think that all of our tax player,

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<v Speaker 2>we send money to people that ain't done ship for us,

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<v Speaker 2>that don't deserve it. We give millions and billions of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to other countries and shit, and we always say

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have money. Well, this was to me, this

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<v Speaker 2>would be our tax money going to the right thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And then and hopefully we start ending this

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<v Speaker 2>qualified immunity so these officers can have to pay up

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<v Speaker 2>their own pocket, you know, and be dead broke, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we you know, unfortunately the man lost his life and

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<v Speaker 2>he's dead, but we want you to be dead broke while.

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<v Speaker 1>You live, right because the thing is the way that

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Legislatively, we still are fighting to change the laws, and

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<v Speaker 3>there is a fight against us to get that done.

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<v Speaker 3>But economically, you can certainly make sure, as Attorney Crump

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<v Speaker 3>always says, that we make killing a black man or

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<v Speaker 3>woman unjustifiably so expensive that the country can't even continue

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<v Speaker 3>to pay the fees too, you know, for for this

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<v Speaker 3>immunity of murder. God, you know, it's just we need

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<v Speaker 3>it to be so so expensive that they say we

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<v Speaker 3>got to do something different because we keep on we

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<v Speaker 3>can't keep on paying out this type of money. And

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<v Speaker 3>yes it is taxpayer dollars, there's also some insurance policies

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<v Speaker 3>and other things that play into us. So it's not

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<v Speaker 3>all taxpayer dollars. There's some other pieces that play into

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<v Speaker 3>how the departments have to pay as well, and the

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<v Speaker 3>City of Memphis all of them. And like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>the police officers ought to be paying themselves. They should

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<v Speaker 3>never ever, ever, ever ever be comfortable anywhere in their lives.

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<v Speaker 3>They shouldn't have no money. They should be shamed, they

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<v Speaker 3>should be they should have to move for people doing

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<v Speaker 3>protests outside of their homes. They should just be as

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<v Speaker 3>uncomfortable as possible. That's what I think about that. So Essence,

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<v Speaker 3>we just came out of Essence weekend and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>over a million black women, specifically more people but black

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<v Speaker 3>women getting together in New Orleans in that city. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know something that I was thinking to myself, that

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<v Speaker 3>is really the one place that when I look around,

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<v Speaker 3>I do not see white people.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't be there. I don't see him.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know they are Orleans. But in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of like, you know, how white folks always find like

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<v Speaker 3>at the rallies and different things, you see white people,

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<v Speaker 3>you see we you know we we just finished at

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<v Speaker 3>the rally for a j Owens and there was white

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<v Speaker 3>there was white people there.

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<v Speaker 1>White people always aren't But for whatever reason, during essence, people.

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<v Speaker 2>Ain't no white people there.

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<v Speaker 1>People go during that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's it's not they think. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not saying they should be there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you might see one or two. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know if you see one or two, actually I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. But you know, there's a couple, it's a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a couple of people that come to the cookout

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, you might see here and there. But

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, like you said, it's really not

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<v Speaker 2>many Caucasians there.

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<v Speaker 3>But while Jill Scott was singing the star Spangled Banner,

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<v Speaker 3>the or the at the black star Spangled Banner, which

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<v Speaker 3>I thought was powerful by the way, I was looking

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<v Speaker 3>around because that's heavy, and I was looking around to

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<v Speaker 3>see the discomfort.

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<v Speaker 1>Of you know, white folks, and it occurred to me

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<v Speaker 1>that there were.

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<v Speaker 2>There ain't nothing to be discomfort.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm hm, well that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>But what bothers me? Okay, forget that work? This is

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<v Speaker 2>no no you no, no, it's not don't work for me.

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<v Speaker 2>This notion that when we critique America and when we

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<v Speaker 2>say things and we bring up history, historical events that

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<v Speaker 2>we know when she talked about all the things that

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<v Speaker 2>she said in that Star Spangled banner, when she she

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<v Speaker 2>reritted rewrote it so.

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<v Speaker 1>That if nineteen years old, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So that it fits the narrative of what we actually

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<v Speaker 2>deal with and have dealt with in America, that there

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<v Speaker 2>were so many people with this. Well, if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>like it here, whyon't you just go? And that shit

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<v Speaker 2>bothers me more than anything. You know, the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>we actually live here and we and like she said,

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<v Speaker 2>this fucking country is built on our backs. We have

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<v Speaker 2>every right to critique, We have every right to point

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<v Speaker 2>our historical events that have been not so favorable that

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<v Speaker 2>we've had to endure, that our ancestors have had to endure.

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<v Speaker 2>And nobody gets to keep telling us that we don't

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<v Speaker 2>we shouldn't be here if we're not okay with the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that our people were enslaved. It's like the dumbest

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<v Speaker 2>shit ever, you know, And I hate that. I hate that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, somebody who's on my page. It's this one

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<v Speaker 2>person on my page that said that shit, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's over a thousand people that's underneath him calling

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<v Speaker 2>him that every dumb mother effort that they can, as

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<v Speaker 2>we think of. And it's just sad that there are

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<v Speaker 2>people who think that we're supposed to be silent about

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<v Speaker 2>a pinion, a historical one of the most egregious, the

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<v Speaker 2>most egregious event in history in American history, that we

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<v Speaker 2>should be silent, especially after we see the remnants and

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<v Speaker 2>the remembrance of what has happened to our people. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when we look and see the conditions that our people

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<v Speaker 2>are faced today, they are direct, you know, results of

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<v Speaker 2>what we talk about. So all of y'all with the

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<v Speaker 2>if we don't like it, leave, if you can't see it,

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<v Speaker 2>then my middle fingers up.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a lot of people that if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>like it, leave, because that was a big part of

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<v Speaker 3>the whole essence debate. You know, several nights of a

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<v Speaker 3>concert and of course Janelle Monnee I was there for

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<v Speaker 3>her performance while waiting for Lauren Hill to come out.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I think the next night, or maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>last night, which I wasn't there for Meg, the Stallion

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<v Speaker 3>performed and there was some we don't like it, so

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<v Speaker 3>either we're leaving or we really what they What I

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<v Speaker 3>heard people saying was they wanted Meg and Janelle Monet

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<v Speaker 3>to either tongue down in or don't be in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I thought to myself, first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>Joanel Monne and Meg in her own way, they are

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<v Speaker 3>a special cup of tea that you have to want, right,

0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:44.719
<v Speaker 3>like you It's not regular lifting, right, this is whatever

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<v Speaker 3>whatever thing. It's got spice and all that in it.

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<v Speaker 3>But sure I'm not gonna take that. I understand. I

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<v Speaker 3>also understand that we live in a highly sexually charged

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<v Speaker 3>time so right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now sex sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex sex.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. Totally understand that there are people who feel,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, every time they turn on their cell phone,

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<v Speaker 3>every time they, you know, anything they do, they're seeing

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<v Speaker 3>this sex being pushed in their faces, and therefore their

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<v Speaker 3>children are impacted by it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not disagree or not understand it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't, But what I would say to offer a

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<v Speaker 3>balanced approach, right, And I guess it's very much so

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<v Speaker 3>the thought of the day for me. The first night

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<v Speaker 3>of the concert, Lauryn Hill had on about full outfits.

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<v Speaker 3>In one thing, she had on some big feathers thing

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<v Speaker 3>covering up everything she had. Her full body was covered.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't work, not one time, right, So Larren Hill

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<v Speaker 3>came on, I mean Janelle came on before she pulled

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<v Speaker 3>out the nipple. I don't really understand. I was there,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't think I was paying attention close enough

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<v Speaker 3>to understand the context of what happened in that moment,

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<v Speaker 3>which nipple was covered by the way, but still she

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<v Speaker 3>pulled her breast out. So that was one thing. Then

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<v Speaker 3>you had Lauryn Hill right Then after Lauren, the next

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<v Speaker 3>night you had Missy Elliott, who we know is fully

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<v Speaker 3>dressed with the shimmerie and even the baggy clothes, and

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<v Speaker 3>she's Missy doing what Missy does right.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit of sexy, but she's not overly sexy.

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<v Speaker 3>The last night you had Meg the Stallion and some twerkers.

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<v Speaker 3>My thing is everything you wanted was there? There's people women?

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<v Speaker 3>When you got a million women, a million women going

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<v Speaker 3>to a show, participating in a conference. It is true

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<v Speaker 3>that they are going to be different types of women

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<v Speaker 3>who are interested in different things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think from my.

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<v Speaker 3>Perspective, right one, you don't have to participate in the

0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.080
<v Speaker 3>parts you don't want to see what I do. Every year,

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<v Speaker 3>I get the Essence schedule. I don't like to go

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<v Speaker 3>out every night. That's not my thing. So I look

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<v Speaker 3>at the schedule and I see who I am interested in.

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren was somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>I was there, my homegirl and I and we sat

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<v Speaker 3>for hours on end while Essence.

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<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason the schedule I don't know, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was late before Lauren came out, and it was not

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<v Speaker 1>her fault because she came right out once.

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<v Speaker 3>You know her people was doing their set while Kenny

0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:45.199
<v Speaker 3>Burns and DJ Clark Kent was doing their thing. The

0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:47.160
<v Speaker 3>set was being built, and as soon as the set

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<v Speaker 3>was finished, Lauren was on the stage. So we're not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do the lauryn Hi'll be late thing. I know

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<v Speaker 3>she does this sometimes, but she wasn't this time. But

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<v Speaker 3>it was super late by the time she came out.

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<v Speaker 3>That's who I wanted to see. There were other things

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<v Speaker 3>on the schedule that I was an interested in, so

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<v Speaker 3>Therefore I didn't show up early or I left early.

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:10.600
<v Speaker 3>I tailored my experience to my taste. So if I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to see mag thee Stallion and the Magnes

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<v Speaker 3>do that work thing she does, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>I like it, I'm not gonna lie like I'm I

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<v Speaker 3>guess I'm of a generation or whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not against Meg and her turk and I'm just not.

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<v Speaker 3>But I understand there's people who don't like it, so

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<v Speaker 3>then you don't have to see it. And then you

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<v Speaker 3>were saying something the other day. I heard you saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, what I want to say. Huh No, I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to reiterate this, but if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>repeat that, you can.

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<v Speaker 3>So you were saying that Essence has been a certain thing,

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 3>so people are looking for a certain quality.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think I'm not saying quality because I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make it seem like what Meg does is

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<v Speaker 2>of less quality. It's just a different genre, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>different feel, it's a different dynamic. And I think since

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<v Speaker 2>I've been going to Essence, there's always been this this

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:17.200
<v Speaker 2>theme of dynamic. Right, it's hip hop excellence, it's more

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:22.359
<v Speaker 2>geared towards not more of the conservative kind of understanding.

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<v Speaker 2>I think most artists who come and perform at Essence

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<v Speaker 2>have pretty much classic hits pretty much. They have either

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<v Speaker 2>classic hits or new classic hits, and they perform them

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<v Speaker 2>as if they perform it for a certain crowd, right.

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 2>And I think even even some of our most explicit

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<v Speaker 2>and people who push radical artists, who push the envelope sexually,

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<v Speaker 2>when they come to Essence, they perform it in a

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<v Speaker 2>different in a different way. And I think, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't think I don't think that I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>anyone who performed at Essence with the level of sexuality

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 2>that Janelle did or that Meg did. Yet maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>have been Maybe maybe we can go to former you know,

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.639
<v Speaker 2>performances and say, oh, such and such did this and

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 2>such and such was way more explicit than that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that's a dynamic that has really been introduced.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think, you know, to your point, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>that they're trying to attack, attract a younger audience and

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<v Speaker 2>and keep you know, moving and moving to a different space.

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<v Speaker 2>And it actually maybe evolved, but it's a lot of

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 2>people that just like their stuff the way they had

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<v Speaker 2>it right. There's a lot of people that go to

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Essence every year and they're used to a thing. They

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<v Speaker 2>used to hearing their favorite artists you know that they've

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<v Speaker 2>been in love with for the last ten, fifteen, twenty years,

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 2>sing their classics, do their songs jump up and down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not you know, and it's a lot more families,

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<v Speaker 2>family orientated show. It's not a lot of it's not

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of you know, that kind of material that's

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 2>been there. So people are there. You got in the

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Essence crowd. You got people from twenty to eighty. There's

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 2>eighty year older women that's sitting in there. And because

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 2>they wanted. They fans of Lauren Hill. They fans are Missy,

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 2>they've been you know, they like certain songs that they've

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:31.719
<v Speaker 2>come there every year, and there's certain artists that they

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>they you know, this is their time. They go to there,

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 2>they see their friends, you know, they get their same

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.920
<v Speaker 2>seats every year, and this is their thing. So when

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 2>they see something that's completely new and is on the

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 2>side of sexual that's not more family orientated, some of

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 2>the all gonna be irritated. Their kids are gonna be like, oh,

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 2>that's my girl. Megan, but some of the elder people

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 2>who've been going to Essence for twenty and thirty years,

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.040
<v Speaker 2>they're not gonna it's gonna be okay with it.

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, but let me just say this right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, India I read had and hopefully

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 3>when our guest joined, we'll get an opportunity to talk

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 3>about this some more, because I made a comment on

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 3>his page when he was saying thank you to India,

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 3>and I think India.

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Iria is a goddess.

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 3>Anything she say, I love Indi Iri is like for.

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Me, she is, She's she.

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 3>I want to see her on my TV and listen

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 3>to her all the time. I love nd I re

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 3>anybody who knows you know I love India, my posician know.

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 3>What she said is that you know why we're trying

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 3>to we're making this culture mainstream and I don't like

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 3>this moment. And my response to those two things at

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 3>once is that the reason why you didn't necessarily see

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 3>and I can't.

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I can't remember every show, right, so

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>I can't say for sure what's in every show. I

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:58.679
<v Speaker 1>think I generally agree with you that because we know

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>that working or the work culture, which by the way

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.199
<v Speaker 1>I know for it, And I asked my mama to

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 1>be clear because somebody else said, no, it's getting worse.

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I asked my mama.

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 3>When Tina Turner started came you know out and started

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 3>shaking with the shimmery with her butt and doing them,

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 3>I thought that was too much. They thought it was

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 3>too much. They said it was too By the way, Beyonce,

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 3>Beyonce has been told even by some of our own

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 3>leaders to put some.

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>More clothes on and that she's too sexy and too explicit. Right, but.

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Let me let me just finishing what I'm saying. So

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 3>these so the thing is Essence has a responsibility to stay.

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Relevant to the whole culture.

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 2>It's not about I don't know if that's I don't

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 2>know if that's I don't know if that's what people

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 2>are saying. I don't know if because it's like it's

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 2>just like Iri, no, no, no, Because Indy Iri has

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 2>a brand that she with India, Irin says is what

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 2>she's always She came into the game with that same

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 2>mentality that's the Brandon. So what she's saying is not

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 2>far fetched for India to say, like this is what

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 2>India is to say. So with people. Anybody that critiques

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 2>what she says, that's how that's who she's always been.

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 2>She's always been. I don't know why women are taken

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the clothes on, and I'm not going to do that.

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not critiquing that. I'm not critiquing that. I'm

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>saying that she was trying to push back.

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Against Essence, and Essence released a statement which they did

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 3>not call her name, but they said, we have a

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 3>wide array of folks that we are trying to bring

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 3>the entertainment that they like to that right now, granted,

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 3>say whatever you want. I looked at the footage. I

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 3>wasn't there for Meg, but I looked at the footage

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 3>and I saw some older people who you were talking

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 3>about getting down because they like a few of Meg's songs.

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 3>So I'm saying that you're never are going to please everybody.

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 3>And I do understand that there's a thin line because

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 3>the issue is so much bigger than just Meg and

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Janelle Twerking, Right, It's bigger than that, I get it.

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 3>The broader conversation here is what is happening to our

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 3>society and our women and our men and whatever because

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 3>of so many different issues that we're seeing.

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>We see in the Christian.

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Rocks and the or and I guess that's when you

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 3>tell me it's Christian, excuse me her and the sexy.

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>It's a lie.

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 3>But I truly do believe my opinion. I don't think

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 3>these people are gonna last long. And I'm not talking

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 3>about Meg and Carty and folks like that. I'm talking

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 3>about these other young ladies. I don't think it's going

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they're gonna have to evolve, even in

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:58.479
<v Speaker 3>their brands, because eventually you can only be but so

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 3>many booty holes before people like, all right, we got it.

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, I hear what you're saying, but I just wanted

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 2>to go back to a point because I guess it's

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 2>in the r when we need to bring them on

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 2>in a second. But when you talk about Tina Turner, right,

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and then you talk about Beyonce and you talk and

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>you talk about how people were saying that was too much, right,

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you see that there's less and less clothes every time,

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 2>right you So you so what I'm saying is you

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>you'll definitely see it. It's not it's not the same.

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 2>So it's not when we're saying something this definitely it's

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>going to a point where Tina Tina had she shook

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>a butt at the camera and she had a little

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 2>shimmery thing. Now this person gonna shake her button and

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 2>she's gonna have half it. She's gonna have Leo tard on.

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 2>This person gonna have a throng on. This one's gonna

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 2>be naked. Like the the there is growth. So everybody

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 2>is not going to agree with it. And that's what

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to say. I'm saying that there has to

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 2>be and it can be. It doesn't. Everything doesn't have

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 2>to fit into one thing. Like I'm not going nobody's

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna make me think that the church is going involved

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 2>to the preacher up there or the the whoever is

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 2>the priest. If there's a female she's up there talking,

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 2>because this is the church. You want, I don't. I don't,

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't. So that's what I'm trying to say. We

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 2>can't say that we want to appeal to it because

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 2>there are people that's in the church that that love

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Magda Staff, but they're not.

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Gonna go to church to say church. You know.

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 2>What I'm trying to say is nobody was the Essence

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Fast has a certain brand and people go there because

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 2>that brand represents a thing and if if, if that

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 2>brand stops a lot of and that's what a lot

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>of artists do is it's called a lot of artists

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>and an attempt to reach a new demographic and get

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 2>a new fan base, they do something different and you

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 2>go away from what your brand is established, that has

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 2>you did for thirty and forty years, and what you

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>start doing, you start you're not actually gaining because that

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 2>demographic that you're going after is not really your fan base.

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>But but but but because.

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 2>We go because the thing is this you like, But

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 2>you you've been going to Essence for something else because

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 2>that's when you go there. That's not using.

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 3>But I'm not gonna not go to Essence. By the way,

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I want to see some of these

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 3>other type of artists out there.

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>But I don't see meg as being.

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying, I'm not saying artist.

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 3>That's not gonna stop me. That's not gonna stop me

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 3>from going to the concert. And the majority of women

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 3>will continue to go, but they do have everybody does

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 3>have to have an element of the different, you know,

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 3>little tastes.

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>If you do a festival, you're gonna put a taste.

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 5>The bottom line is, there's no there's another There's nothing.

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Wrong with having a brain saying what I'm saying with

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 2>your brain.

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 3>But it's not about Sticky because the brand had evolved.

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there were things that they did before that

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 3>they started doing something else and people were like, I

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 3>don't like this, why is this happening? It always going

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 3>to be people that are not gonna like different elements,

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 3>But the overwhelming majority, from Lauren to Missy to Jill

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Scott to this one and that one was on on key,

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 3>they had one or two things that was a little different.

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not I'm but with those artists. We all but

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing wrong with those artists because reality situation is,

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:42.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't think people go to the essence to see

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 2>to see the visuals of those things.

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 3>They might all they was in the owls dancing, okay,

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 3>loving it up.

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 1>So maybe we should bring our guests.

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 2>As always, I would show it was full of our friends,

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 2>and this guest is no different. He's one of a

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 2>brother I respect musically, you know, I love what he

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 2>does for his community, with the community at large, he's

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 2>an educator, he's dope lyricists, and he's one of my guys.

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 2>This brother here, Haqeen Green from Channel Live, the founder

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.760
<v Speaker 2>of twenty four Hours of Peace, and a New Jersey native.

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 2>He is here to join us today. How you doing today, brother.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 5>I'm great, I'm excellent. Thank you for having me on

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 5>the show. It is completely my honor. Thank you, Sef

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 5>ma'am peace, Queen.

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 1>What's up man? You know how much we love you Haqeen.

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 3>You know we always speak very highly of you because

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 3>you're just that type of dude. And everywhere I've not

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 3>ever heard anyone say something bad about Hakeen Green.

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 4>I just had is somebody out there with some darts

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 4>for me.

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 1>They don't say it.

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 3>To me, and trust me, people got something to tell

0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 3>me about everybody, but they say anything bad about you,

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 3>And I think that is a true testament, you know,

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 3>to to to who.

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>You are and what you've done.

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 3>My dad is that type of guy that everywhere he

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 3>goes people say positive things about him, and that's just

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 3>a that's a good thing when you can actually walk

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:18.839
<v Speaker 3>in and out of rooms and have people you know,

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 3>carry your name and uphold your legacy in a positive way.

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think my mother she gets all the credit.

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, as she should. Man, Yes, sir, so Hakem. I

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 2>know you do a bunch of work. You know, you're

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 2>a part of the legendary Channel Live and in that concert.

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna even a couple of tickets. I can. I

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 2>got to call me a favor.

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 2>You know that a Yankee stadium.

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, no, no, I'm not gonna be a Yankee stadium.

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 2>You're not coming to Yankee Stadium.

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:54.320
<v Speaker 5>Man, I can't afford Yankee Stadium. It's crazy. Dave Jackie

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 5>robs Up, he got your arm behind that. They look,

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.959
<v Speaker 5>you should be at the Yankee Stadium. Man, I'm gonna

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. But we're working hard

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 5>to pull off. August twelfth, the very next day KRS

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 5>one Temple of hip Hop, twenty four hours a piece.

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 5>We're doing a hip hop celebration on the block in

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 5>front of fifteen to twenty Central Avenue on the twelfth

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 5>the next day.

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh so you're gonna be in the hood. That's my hood.

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm from University and all that, So that's

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 2>right down the block I was born.

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 5>That's what that's what hip hop is about, being in

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 5>the hood and touching down with the people.

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:30.919
<v Speaker 4>You see how we're doing Nork every year.

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 5>So it's the fiftieth anniversary of hip hop and the

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.839
<v Speaker 5>community that gave us hip hop, we need to give

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 5>something back, so you know, we're doing our effort for free.

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 5>Even though the Yankee Stadium event is looking quite legendary,

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:46.240
<v Speaker 5>it's it's crazy.

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 4>It's crazy, but for the people.

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 5>We over on Central Gavenue fifteen twenty Central g Cavenue

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 5>on August twelfth.

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 2>See it's over there August twelfth.

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 4>I saw you with Chris at the jah Roof show.

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.360
<v Speaker 5>A few weeks back, and I know you guys chopped

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 5>it up, so I'm hoping we got my side on

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 5>the bill.

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, man, from your mouth to gods is man,

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 2>listen you. I would love to be there. That's the hood,

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm wanting. I started rapping because of Chris,

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 2>So it's that you know you if you're from the

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Bronx and Chris didn influenced you as a lyricist, you know,

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 2>then then I don't even know what you was doing.

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 2>So I'm definitely would love to be there.

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 5>Right So vitalizing the flyer right now talking about promotion.

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 5>So we're gonna add my SiGe name on there.

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:39.879
<v Speaker 2>If you don't mind thease, do do business right right time,

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 2>right in time. So tell tell people about twenty four

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 2>hours a piece, how it started? You know, what is

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 2>the goal and every where it is? Everything?

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like you out like you.

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 5>I was highly influenced by KRS one. Of course I

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.360
<v Speaker 5>work with him with Chanel Lives Matters and Record. But

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 5>in two thousand and six we reconnected and we initiated

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.880
<v Speaker 5>to Stop the Violence Movement as a nonprofit. So in

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.439
<v Speaker 5>doing that work and kind of coal us and using

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 5>hip hop to coal us around peace, love, unity, safety,

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 5>having fun, it kind of allowed me to carry this

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 5>over to Jersey where I hooked up with ros Baraco

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 5>who was then Southwork Councilman's principal Central High School, and

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 5>following him and the North Anti Violence Coalition, it was like, Okay,

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 5>how can we use hip hop culture to peace to

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 5>push peace, love, unity, safety, having fun.

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 4>I got with a Mary Baraka Junior.

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 5>He was like, Yo, we need to put the hip

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 5>hop out on the block for twenty four hours hot,

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:41.839
<v Speaker 5>all day, all night. I'm like twenty four hours. Why

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:43.800
<v Speaker 5>don't we just do something like forty six hours in

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 5>and out, you know, easy setup. No, we got to

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 5>make a statement and do this for twenty four hours,

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 5>and that's how twenty four Hours of Peace was launched.

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:52.879
<v Speaker 4>Peace, Love, Unity, safety, having fun.

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of people in our community who are

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 5>already doing the work. I mentioned the North Anti Violence

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 5>Coalition and like yourself, you guys are doing the real work.

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:06.719
<v Speaker 5>The commercial is the commercial right, and as artists and

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 5>creatives we have the ability and the power to shape

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 5>the messaging in a certain way. So that's what I'm

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:15.439
<v Speaker 5>doing with you know, my effort to support the work,

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:16.880
<v Speaker 5>the real work that you guys do.

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:19.320
<v Speaker 4>The folks that are in Newark, New Jersey.

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 5>Big shout out to the Office of Violence Prevention and

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 5>Trauma Recovery and the Brick City Peace Collective. You guys

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.479
<v Speaker 5>are your research, but we're talking about that real work,

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 5>tending to people who have suffered violence, traumatic experiences, getting

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:38.359
<v Speaker 5>that extra support, organizing city government around that effort. That's

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 5>what it's about. And we can use hip hop to

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 5>engage folks in that way.

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, Definitely, you've been and you've been. You know, a

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.879
<v Speaker 2>stead work, a start work in that area for years.

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, I remember when you brought me up to

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 2>twenty five hours a piece, and you know, I was amazed,

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 2>like dag, it's just this level of energy. I think

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Queen Latifa was. There was so many people there, you know,

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 2>and it was a dope event. So when is the

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 2>next twenty four When is twenty five hours a piece?

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 4>This year?

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:07.879
<v Speaker 5>The next one is September first and second, of course

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:10.800
<v Speaker 5>in North New Jersey, and we try to schedule it

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:12.760
<v Speaker 5>towards the end of the summer, heading back to school,

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:15.839
<v Speaker 5>just to start the school year off on a positive note.

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 5>And we've been able to do that fight well since

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 5>twenty ten. Every year since twenty ten except for the

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:22.719
<v Speaker 5>pandemic year.

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:27.959
<v Speaker 3>Now have you seen like in terms of the data.

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.360
<v Speaker 3>I never forget the New York City. One of the

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 3>biggest fights I had with Mayor Bloomberg was around getting

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:38.959
<v Speaker 3>money for the anti violence work. You know, of course

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Erica Ford and At Mitchell and so many people in

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 3>the City of New York. We were fighting for resources

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:51.320
<v Speaker 3>and Mayor Bloomberg said that there was no data to

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 3>prove that funding small grassroows groups would actually help to

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 3>reduce violence. He thought it should be all about the

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 3>political side, and you know, of course passing legislation to

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 3>get guns off the street and all of that, and

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 3>we said, no, that's part two.

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Part one is invest in our communities. So from the

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours.

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 3>Of component and thinking of you know, his well, let

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:22.240
<v Speaker 3>me go backwards and say, but when he talked about data,

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 3>we understood then that that was the that was necessary

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 3>going forward. So we would never be caught out there

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 3>again without data points. So no one could deny resources

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 3>based upon that. So what do you have, you know,

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 3>what do you think in terms of what twenty four

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 3>hours a piece the impact.

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 1>That it has on the community.

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so let me let's you say, twenty four hours

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 5>a piece is one day in a year, right, and

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 5>you know it's organizing the cultural the cultural community, the

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 5>artist community, plugging into the nonprofits that already exists, and

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 5>of course with the city comes behind it, with the support.

0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 4>It's a part of a larger effort. Spirit had it

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 4>by the mayor.

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 5>Before he was the mayor, he launched the Initiative to

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 5>Declare Violence of Public Health Issue, which was about local, state,

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 5>federal government investing in community. The number one resource is

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 5>human resource, so we don't invest in human beings. Everything

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 5>else is gottage, right, So raz understanding that has a

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:24.800
<v Speaker 5>series of initiatives. Office of Bole of Prevention, Drama Recovery,

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 5>Brick City Peace Collective are just two of the flowers

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 5>on that tree. It's an overarching and I don't want

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 5>to speak like an expert as if I know all

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 5>the bits and pieces that said Nork is experiencing the

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:41.720
<v Speaker 5>lowest violence and crime rates since before the Nork riots

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 5>in sixty seven. Last year, a New York police department

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 5>didn't fire their gun one time, not shoot somebody. They

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 5>didn't fire their weapon one time. And I think that

0:43:53.640 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 5>the city has throughout the entire year. In North last year,

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:04.879
<v Speaker 5>nor police department didn't fire their weapon one time.

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>And he defunded the police.

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 2>That's the culture.

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:10.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't. I don't, you know, said, I don't

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 4>work for the mayor, I don't work for the city.

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:13.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't think.

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:17.239
<v Speaker 5>I know over there that you know, people get a

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 5>little itchy about the defund word, but it is what

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 5>it is.

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 4>He took money from the police department and put it

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 4>into these programs.

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and I say he abolished the police obviously, and

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 3>that's not what defund means.

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Like people try to twist it on purpose because they

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>want to confuse folks.

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Defunding needs take some money, as you said, and shift

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:41.720
<v Speaker 3>it to other places, and you are able to prove

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 3>that when you invest in the human resources is the

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 3>best resource. When you invest in community and not so

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 3>much impunitive damage method methods that you'll see more success

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 3>in terms of safety and so on and so forth.

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.359
<v Speaker 3>And by the way, I mean I know these things

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 3>because obviously we talked to Mayor Baracco all the time.

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 3>It is also dangerous to have police officers having to

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 3>fill the role of being the mental health therapists. You

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 3>were gonna say, go ahead, well no, it's.

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 5>You know they they're called peace officers, right, and you

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 5>know that first line of defense should be offense should

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 5>be the work of peace officers who are trained professionals,

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 5>social workers, psychologists, educators who know how to you know,

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 5>talk to talk when it comes to de escalating people

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 5>having mental health crisis, walk them, get them over to

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:35.840
<v Speaker 5>the other side.

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:36.720
<v Speaker 4>They're needed.

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 5>You know, people are crying out for help or having

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:41.840
<v Speaker 5>meltdowns at a lot of a lot of times and

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:44.279
<v Speaker 5>they need professionals, not just somebody to short up with

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 5>a gun. And you know what raz Mayor Barack has

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 5>been doing in North New Jersey, not just with getting

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:52.879
<v Speaker 5>behind twenty four hours of piece, but everything he's doing

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 5>is transforming the city in a positive way.

0:45:55.800 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 2>You're definitely shout out to rest Rock. We've been doing

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 2>We've been doing work with Boycott Black Murder in Newark.

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, shout out to Keisha Yuri, Shout out to

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Kylisha Hill, the people who work those those programs that

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about, and a lot of other organizations like

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 2>New Direction, who I work with, you know, one of

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 2>the the ny Brothers who work out there. It's a lot,

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:24.240
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a real collective.

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:28.839
<v Speaker 2>I've been working with these individuals and they're very intentional

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's serious about the community. So the work that's

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 2>happening there, you know, it's a blueprint. It's a blueprint

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 2>for the rest of the cities and the rest of

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 2>the states. You know that if you actually invest the

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 2>money in people in the community, that you'll see change.

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:48.919
<v Speaker 3>So make sure we uh spread love to our brother

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:53.800
<v Speaker 3>Bashir Anelli. You know, he's another brother that before and

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 3>before everybody got to Newark to start doing anti violence work,

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 3>he was on the ground. This brother has been assist

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:05.320
<v Speaker 3>that he is like the father, if you will, of

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 3>anti violence, organize it in my eyes. Now, I know

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.920
<v Speaker 3>there were people before him, but I'm saying I'm forty

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 3>three years old and I've been knowing.

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:18.359
<v Speaker 5>I know Bashir since i was eight years old exactly,

0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 5>So I like, in terms of our walk, like we

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 5>walk together, it's a crew of us that you know,

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 5>I graduated high school nineteen eighty seven, So it's like,

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:31.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, a lot of the folks that I work

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 5>with in North now, folks that I've known from the

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 5>sandbox literally, you know. And what's happening in North is

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:40.799
<v Speaker 5>about you know, people on the inside who have been

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:45.480
<v Speaker 5>doing the work for years and Mayor Baraka empowering him

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:48.279
<v Speaker 5>to come inside city Hall to continue that work. And

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:51.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, Vasher is just one of those folks. You know, again,

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 5>one of the North Anti Violence Coalition, and if the

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:56.879
<v Speaker 5>peace was inspired by watching the work of the North

0:47:56.920 --> 0:48:01.239
<v Speaker 5>Anti Violence Coalition, Rest in peace. Natasha Allen one of

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 5>the powerful sisters in the North community who you know,

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:06.840
<v Speaker 5>one of the executive members of the North Kentry Polace

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 5>coalition passed away last year and alexis trustee. Just you

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:14.280
<v Speaker 5>know again, I've been knowing these folks since the sandbox,

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 5>grew up with them and to see them, you know,

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:20.480
<v Speaker 5>transform their community like you got to pitch in, you

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:23.399
<v Speaker 5>gotta help. So for all the artists out there, that's

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 5>our responsibility is to help the real work going.

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 3>On now you're still making music. Also, because you know,

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:32.800
<v Speaker 3>my son is always very clear because people are like

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:35.280
<v Speaker 3>my son is an active he's that I'm an artist

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 3>and an activist. So he is a ractivist, that is no,

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 3>his his title is raptivist. He say sure that people know,

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 3>don't try to act like I'm not still outside and

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:48.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't still.

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:53.359
<v Speaker 4>Have got these bars. I met the God.

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 5>First time I met you was at Tramps at the

0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.439
<v Speaker 5>kras One Redman show.

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:00.120
<v Speaker 4>This was probably.

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 5>Six or seven or twenty first Street, and like you

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 5>were like the talk of the town, like every my

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:13.800
<v Speaker 5>sign my side, like you were next right, so you know,

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:16.560
<v Speaker 5>to know what happened and the trand you know what

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 5>and you come out on the other side and you're

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:23.759
<v Speaker 5>doing this and like you're over where I'm at, Like

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 5>you was over there you come through the belly of

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 5>the beasts and you hear and it's like your confirmation

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 5>for what I've been working towards for, like you know,

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 5>since I got put on by Chuck Chris Exclaim so

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:43.239
<v Speaker 5>forth and someone that ability to speak the language of

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:47.360
<v Speaker 5>the people to elevate them. So it's like, man, you know,

0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 5>you influenced me as much as I'm the og and

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm before it. Man, you influenced me in ways we

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 5>have no idea and we have a song together called Don't.

0:49:57.239 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Truck Don't Trump right, we definitely do so.

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:10.760
<v Speaker 5>Yes Aubrey album produced entirely by Rob Lawrence, Hitman Legend.

0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 4>I got Carl Thomas, carris.

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 5>One, Selo Green Freeway step on the project and g

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 5>Simone Big Shot the g Simone. Krras One's wife, she's

0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:24.319
<v Speaker 5>on the project. And we got some bangers on there.

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 4>Check it out.

0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 5>Rob Lawrence is no joke on the on the tracks

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 5>and like my side test, I got them bars.

0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:38.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, speaking of bars, you and I had I dropped

0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:43.400
<v Speaker 3>what I thought was some bars on your game the

0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 3>other day and we were just talking about, you know,

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:50.799
<v Speaker 3>this this moment that we're in where which we all

0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 3>agree the three of us won't argue that this is

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:59.040
<v Speaker 3>a super super sexualized time right where it's a lot

0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 3>of sex out here, everybody's selling something, you know whatever.

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna leave that at that.

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:08.400
<v Speaker 3>And I think that I and and and also I

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:10.920
<v Speaker 3>said on your post, where you would, you know, basically

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 3>showing love to nd I re for her position that

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:17.479
<v Speaker 3>she doesn't like this moment that we're in where we're

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 3>sort of mainstreaming sex in a place.

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Like Essence Fest.

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:25.080
<v Speaker 3>I think one of the things, and I don't. I'm

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 3>not against Ndia, I Rea. I respect her position. I

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 3>think her position is necessary because it must be a

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 3>balanced conversation. Never have our culture be, you know, in

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 3>a space where Auntie or sister sister, we're gonna still

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 3>call her sister, can't step into the chat and say, hey,

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:42.680
<v Speaker 3>let's make sure we keep.

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:44.839
<v Speaker 1>Our shit together, right, So I don't.

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:47.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm not against her for that, But I do have

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:51.360
<v Speaker 3>other another perspective, or I think a broadened perspective on it.

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 3>And I talked about how the show has so many

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 3>different elements. It was it was full of all the

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 3>things that anybody wanted to see. I was saying to

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:03.479
<v Speaker 3>my son, I go to essence. Every year, I would

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 3>like to be out at one and two o'clock in

0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 3>the morning every night. I wish they would start a

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 3>concert at two o'clock in the afternoons, so I go

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:12.840
<v Speaker 3>to bed at ten o'clock, like, but that's not what

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:16.040
<v Speaker 3>they do. Concerts go till two o'clock in the morning.

0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 3>And I look at the schedule and decide what I

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:21.839
<v Speaker 3>want to see. You know, I don't.

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't go to everything. Some nights I'm like, you know,

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:26.360
<v Speaker 1>some years, I want to see this. I want to

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:28.799
<v Speaker 1>see that. I know I'm not gonna stay up three nights.

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:31.279
<v Speaker 1>That's not going to happen. So I need to pick

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:32.120
<v Speaker 1>a hall, a.

0:52:32.280 --> 0:52:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Solid tooth, and that's what I do. So I feel

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 3>like understanding that I saw. I watched Laurren Hill put

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 3>on one of the best performances ever one only one

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:47.799
<v Speaker 3>other time, and I've seen Lauren Hill several times. One

0:52:47.880 --> 0:52:51.439
<v Speaker 3>other time, PUFF had a small thing and my son

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:54.080
<v Speaker 3>and I somehow ended up at the front table, and

0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:54.799
<v Speaker 3>I and.

0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:55.640
<v Speaker 2>My son.

0:52:57.120 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Nobody else was dead except him at Laurenn Hill in

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:03.200
<v Speaker 3>the room that night, because you know, she performed and

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:06.239
<v Speaker 3>she was so amazing, but this she was in Oh

0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 3>she was oh hakem at essence. Lauren was on high,

0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 3>she was amazing, she was radiant and all that. So

0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:18.720
<v Speaker 3>you got that, and you had she was fully dressed,

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:22.359
<v Speaker 3>she had everything on. Then you had you know, Jill

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Scott who came with the old Negro spiritual the new

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 3>star Spangled banner then and she was of course fully dressed.

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Missy Elliott was fully dressed. She wasn't twerking. She was shimmering,

0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:37.880
<v Speaker 1>but not twerking.

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.040
<v Speaker 3>You had a lot of people, right, and then of

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:44.759
<v Speaker 3>course you also have the element of the time that

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:48.080
<v Speaker 3>we're in where these younger girls they doing what they're doing,

0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 3>and there's other young girls that are not doing that.

0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:54.759
<v Speaker 1>So I just know that, you know, I feel like

0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the variety of things that's out there.

0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:02.160
<v Speaker 3>When you have a million women coming together, people want

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 3>to see different things, and so I just feel that

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't overly it wasn't overly done. There was more

0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:11.880
<v Speaker 3>of the other stuff and less of the meg and

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Janelle Monee Tourken moments.

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.880
<v Speaker 1>That was one moment in a full three days.

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Of a festival.

0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:18.319
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:21.960
<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't think the critique is about the whole thing.

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:27.279
<v Speaker 5>I think the critique is about that moment. So if

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:36.160
<v Speaker 5>anything goes, everything will. If we allow for anything, everything will.

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.840
<v Speaker 5>Now this is my first essence festival. But when I

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 5>think of essence an essence festival, I don't think of

0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 5>black tails, don't I think of there's a level of

0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:58.200
<v Speaker 5>excellence that essence represents that you tarnish your legacy when

0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 5>you would go down to the to attach it.

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:03.240
<v Speaker 4>Now, there's a respectful way to do everything.

0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:08.759
<v Speaker 5>But when you allow for anything, everything goes, and you

0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:12.319
<v Speaker 5>can't then control what goes and what doesn't go because

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:14.320
<v Speaker 5>why can they do it but I can't do it?

0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:17.280
<v Speaker 5>You get into that argument now, you know, I understand

0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:19.840
<v Speaker 5>the times that we're in and there's a reason for it.

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:23.880
<v Speaker 5>Like as much as there's a sexual revolution, I can

0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:27.560
<v Speaker 5>enslave you with sex, there's really you gotta be careful

0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 5>o the sexual revolution. No, in a lot of ways,

0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:32.880
<v Speaker 5>it's you becoming a slave to your desires and your

0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:39.839
<v Speaker 5>passions and creating the environment where indecency rules today, where

0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:45.360
<v Speaker 5>indecency is, decency isn't. So when things go wrong and

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:49.719
<v Speaker 5>you're expecting decency to step up, decency left the room

0:55:50.200 --> 0:55:51.480
<v Speaker 5>when indecency stepped in.

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:56.399
<v Speaker 4>So I ain't perfect. I got my garbage. Like I said,

0:55:56.719 --> 0:55:58.839
<v Speaker 4>there's somebody out there. It darts for me too.

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:04.360
<v Speaker 3>But struggle with I struggle with the use of the

0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:10.360
<v Speaker 3>term in decency when we're talking about Meg and Janelle

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:13.839
<v Speaker 3>Monette specifically. I'm just talking about those two sisters specifically

0:56:13.840 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 3>because they was the target of India's point, right. They

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:21.399
<v Speaker 3>were they were, they were the two and I think

0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 3>both of them are incredibly talented. I think that Meg

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 3>the Stallion is a great artist. I think that she's

0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:33.120
<v Speaker 3>got some she I mean, yeah, she'd be twerking and

0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:37.359
<v Speaker 3>it is what it is. But I don't I if

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:41.040
<v Speaker 3>they had sexy read up there talking about booty whatever

0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:44.240
<v Speaker 3>they talking about, whatever that is, then I might agree

0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:44.440
<v Speaker 3>with you.

0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:46.239
<v Speaker 1>But the problem, the.

0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Problem is the problem is the problem is this. It

0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:50.600
<v Speaker 2>opens the door for sexy rich.

0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:51.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're gonna have a let.

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:55.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm not even gonna put it on. Like I'm not

0:56:55.719 --> 0:57:00.279
<v Speaker 5>saying Meg and Janelle they were an artist form. They

0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:01.600
<v Speaker 5>were when they let.

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:05.000
<v Speaker 4>All the other sisters up on stage. That's when indecency

0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:09.480
<v Speaker 4>go was on it we allowed. But that you can't decide, Ma.

0:57:09.920 --> 0:57:11.719
<v Speaker 4>We don't want to see the crack of your ass.

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:16.560
<v Speaker 4>We just don't know. Oh yah, yeah.

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:19.920
<v Speaker 5>I always brought another comparison to just so it's not

0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:24.240
<v Speaker 5>about women, right, So when the whole sagging pants thing happened,

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:27.960
<v Speaker 5>right with males sagging their pants and the whole show

0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 5>in your underwear, like that's just indecent, bars.

0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:38.120
<v Speaker 4>Don't want it's indecent. It's not for every environment.

0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:43.400
<v Speaker 3>It may be indecent, but I see it all the

0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:47.320
<v Speaker 3>time in some places that un quote unquote so supposed

0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:49.680
<v Speaker 3>to be so professionally whatever.

0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:53.360
<v Speaker 5>And they are wrong, and you're right, Like what you

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 5>said is right. It ain't wrong just because I might

0:57:57.000 --> 0:57:58.400
<v Speaker 5>or man I identify with it.

0:57:59.000 --> 0:58:00.680
<v Speaker 4>It's wrong. It's wrong.

0:58:01.360 --> 0:58:06.560
<v Speaker 3>And I also feel like I also struggle here, right,

0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 3>I struggle in this other area.

0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I struggle because I feel like I hear a lot

0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of men.

0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Very loudly trying to help determine what is decent or

0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:26.320
<v Speaker 3>boundaries for women.

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:29.720
<v Speaker 1>And I understand that we have to respect our kings.

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm not one.

0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm all about respecting our kings. But I

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:38.560
<v Speaker 3>also think that we as women probably need a space

0:58:38.600 --> 0:58:41.200
<v Speaker 3>where we can try to work some of that stuff out. Right,

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Because We've always been being told how we should show up.

0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:49.760
<v Speaker 3>We've always been being told by men what we should

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:52.440
<v Speaker 3>look like. And I think that some of it is

0:58:52.600 --> 0:58:56.040
<v Speaker 3>resistance to that. So it might be out of control.

0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 3>It might be out of control in some aspects. Right,

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:00.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying all of it, but some of it

0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:06.080
<v Speaker 3>may be just a barrier breakdown of always being told

0:59:06.480 --> 0:59:09.440
<v Speaker 3>what we should look like, how we should dress, how

0:59:09.520 --> 0:59:13.320
<v Speaker 3>we should show up, and what is okay with society

0:59:13.560 --> 0:59:18.320
<v Speaker 3>for women. Right, we have been censored, if you will,

0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 3>and our lifestyles and everything about us has been so

0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:25.920
<v Speaker 3>controlled by whatever society things, which includes men, not just

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:28.480
<v Speaker 3>black men, but men in general. So I think we're

0:59:28.600 --> 0:59:33.000
<v Speaker 3>seeing some resistance to that happening in this moment as well.

0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I agree with you there, and a lot of times.

0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:48.400
<v Speaker 5>That environment to express yourself is tied to the exploitation

0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:52.440
<v Speaker 5>of who gets the dollar at the end. Right, So

0:59:52.520 --> 0:59:54.800
<v Speaker 5>when we look at the advertisers and the sponsors and

0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:58.080
<v Speaker 5>and so forth and so ons who come in and are.

0:59:58.040 --> 1:00:02.400
<v Speaker 4>Willing to dump money here but not dump money there, it's.

1:00:02.280 --> 1:00:06.080
<v Speaker 5>Because you know, to the lowest common denominators what appeals

1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:06.840
<v Speaker 5>to the most people.

1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:08.920
<v Speaker 4>But so if I can keep you here, this is

1:00:08.960 --> 1:00:10.400
<v Speaker 4>where all the investment's going to go.

1:00:11.000 --> 1:00:13.480
<v Speaker 3>I agree, but you but we can't say that about essence,

1:00:13.760 --> 1:00:18.280
<v Speaker 3>right because at essence the investment is covering a wide

1:00:18.760 --> 1:00:24.200
<v Speaker 3>array of the celebration of black talent, right, It's covering everything.

1:00:24.280 --> 1:00:28.280
<v Speaker 3>It's not like, well, they're narrowing in on a certain

1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:30.480
<v Speaker 3>type of thing. And I wouldn't I wouldn't bear to

1:00:30.640 --> 1:00:33.920
<v Speaker 3>say that there's probably some sponsors that didn't even like

1:00:34.720 --> 1:00:37.400
<v Speaker 3>the whole trque thing and the bood thing and the

1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:39.640
<v Speaker 3>whole thing. They probably are not even really with that.

1:00:40.000 --> 1:00:41.440
<v Speaker 3>And it might be a little bit of shock to

1:00:41.520 --> 1:00:43.080
<v Speaker 3>the system as well, because I know a lot of

1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:48.280
<v Speaker 3>the women specifically who handle the accounts that are millions

1:00:48.360 --> 1:00:51.360
<v Speaker 3>of dollars worth of sponsorship to Essen, And I can

1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:55.120
<v Speaker 3>tell you that there's not outside in that way. But

1:00:55.600 --> 1:00:59.200
<v Speaker 3>I also saw them on camera up in there with Meg,

1:00:59.400 --> 1:01:02.080
<v Speaker 3>like know, because they like it as well.

1:01:02.160 --> 1:01:09.200
<v Speaker 2>So it's I just think just as artists, as individuals,

1:01:09.320 --> 1:01:12.840
<v Speaker 2>just as professionals. Right when you when you have a

1:01:12.920 --> 1:01:16.880
<v Speaker 2>catalog right there, there's there's there's a way that you

1:01:16.960 --> 1:01:20.400
<v Speaker 2>show up right. You understand, you understand the dynamics, you

1:01:20.520 --> 1:01:26.560
<v Speaker 2>understand your your audience. I just don't think if certain

1:01:26.600 --> 1:01:30.200
<v Speaker 2>people will actually perform at certain other events that they

1:01:30.240 --> 1:01:30.880
<v Speaker 2>would show.

1:01:30.800 --> 1:01:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Up certain ways Meg does.

1:01:32.840 --> 1:01:32.880
<v Speaker 4>No.

1:01:33.000 --> 1:01:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know what I've seen I've seen.

1:01:35.800 --> 1:01:39.720
<v Speaker 2>I've seen Meg come out without having on a leotard

1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:44.560
<v Speaker 2>and without having on like I've seen her, but I've

1:01:44.560 --> 1:01:47.360
<v Speaker 2>seen him come out without having what even if she

1:01:47.520 --> 1:01:49.920
<v Speaker 2>does the certain dances, but the way, it's a certain

1:01:49.960 --> 1:01:52.280
<v Speaker 2>way that she presents herself that I've seen her perform

1:01:52.360 --> 1:01:55.400
<v Speaker 2>at different shows and different things where there's a different

1:01:55.600 --> 1:01:59.520
<v Speaker 2>dynamic and understanding that this dynamic is different. But I

1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:02.000
<v Speaker 2>think artists we have to because there's certain songs that

1:02:02.080 --> 1:02:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna perform everywhere. Like I know, I'm not

1:02:04.920 --> 1:02:07.040
<v Speaker 2>performing my song lefty gunna be in the right pom

1:02:07.080 --> 1:02:09.200
<v Speaker 2>when I go to the school. I'm just not doing

1:02:09.280 --> 1:02:13.000
<v Speaker 2>that because that's not the audience for that song. Right,

1:02:13.080 --> 1:02:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna address a certain way. This what I'm

1:02:15.920 --> 1:02:18.960
<v Speaker 2>saying is the Essence has Like he said, there's a

1:02:19.120 --> 1:02:22.520
<v Speaker 2>brand that there's a brand of black excellence. The Essence

1:02:22.560 --> 1:02:27.000
<v Speaker 2>represents right. And I think that each of those artists

1:02:27.040 --> 1:02:30.360
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about have songs and have things that are

1:02:30.440 --> 1:02:34.040
<v Speaker 2>so dynamic that the Essence wants those things, and I

1:02:34.160 --> 1:02:36.840
<v Speaker 2>just think that we have to attach it to the excellence.

1:02:37.080 --> 1:02:40.880
<v Speaker 2>The Essence is not just saying I'm gonna be I'm not.

1:02:41.240 --> 1:02:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm here to get shock value. I'm gonna do some

1:02:43.840 --> 1:02:46.400
<v Speaker 2>shit that nobody did to bring shock value because I

1:02:46.480 --> 1:02:47.960
<v Speaker 2>want it and I don't. I think we I think

1:02:48.000 --> 1:02:50.000
<v Speaker 2>we caught up in a shock value and I don't,

1:02:50.200 --> 1:02:51.680
<v Speaker 2>and I'm.

1:02:51.040 --> 1:02:51.680
<v Speaker 4>Not all for that.

1:02:51.800 --> 1:02:53.720
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of times people are doing things

1:02:53.760 --> 1:02:56.280
<v Speaker 2>because they want to shock somebody. When you're talent, they

1:02:56.400 --> 1:02:59.840
<v Speaker 2>actually have talent. That supersedes the fact that we got

1:02:59.920 --> 1:03:02.800
<v Speaker 2>to talk about that and you did this like we

1:03:02.840 --> 1:03:05.760
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't even have it. Now it's overshadowed that you actually

1:03:05.840 --> 1:03:08.320
<v Speaker 2>did dope ship there, you know, And I think that's

1:03:08.360 --> 1:03:10.320
<v Speaker 2>what every I think that's what the ever we are

1:03:10.440 --> 1:03:10.760
<v Speaker 2>in there.

1:03:11.880 --> 1:03:13.480
<v Speaker 5>Add on to that, he just made me think of

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<v Speaker 5>something in terms of, you know, the Essence brand, and

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<v Speaker 5>maybe I gotta twist it. Maybe I'm holding Essence to

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<v Speaker 5>a higher standard of what it really is. But where

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<v Speaker 5>I think Essence is right, Like there's places for everything,

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<v Speaker 5>and we know who Megan is. We know, well, we

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<v Speaker 5>thought we know who Janell mo. They is she's becoming

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<v Speaker 5>something else. So we're not mad at that at all.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just she's transformeding.

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<v Speaker 4>But we know, we know what Megan is.

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<v Speaker 5>Essence should be the thing where Meg now steps up

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<v Speaker 5>that says I'm gonna present myself with Yeah, Meg the style,

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<v Speaker 5>and y'all do these gigs here and it's all good.

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<v Speaker 5>But when it comes to essence, I'm gonna step up.

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<v Speaker 5>And that shows systems across the board or not just systs,

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<v Speaker 5>people's time.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not she like, this is a woman of

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<v Speaker 2>we know that she can do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. I think that's where my struggle

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<v Speaker 1>is that I don't see.

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<v Speaker 4>It.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think her brand was debased.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even I need to think about this more

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<v Speaker 3>because and that's okay to say, like as a woman,

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<v Speaker 3>I need to think about it more because I know

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<v Speaker 3>that as the two of you are speaking, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't mean this in a in a dramatic way, there

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<v Speaker 3>are things that you're saying that's triggering me and the

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<v Speaker 3>freedom of my womanhood right Like, it's just it's triggering

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<v Speaker 3>me to say that I don't I don't because.

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<v Speaker 1>People say the same thing to me. But let me finish.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm just I'm saying because essence is about for

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<v Speaker 3>the most part, it's about women, right for the most part.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know what Lil Wayne did when he

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<v Speaker 3>was there, if any of his songs was the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that we know has massagyny in it, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>it probably was, and he performed, and nobody is talking

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<v Speaker 3>about how it was ten lyrics or or three of

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<v Speaker 3>his songs perspected or degrading women, right, But.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with her.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with her in that sense that essence is

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<v Speaker 5>for women, and then you have an artist who's a

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<v Speaker 5>large portion of his music is degrading women.

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<v Speaker 4>That's really a conflicted messaging exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a lot of conflict in general of things

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<v Speaker 3>that have to be negotiated in order to give people

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<v Speaker 3>what they want, right or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So it triggers me.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also I want to be thoughtful about how

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<v Speaker 3>all of this because you said something, and my song's

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<v Speaker 3>been saying it to me all week, because we've been

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<v Speaker 3>talking about this over and over again. It's all connected.

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<v Speaker 3>And we know where in a time when things in

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<v Speaker 3>our community there's some challenges, some serious challenges we're up

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<v Speaker 3>against with the ways in which we behave or are

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<v Speaker 3>behaving as a community, and a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 3>see playing out. And I know that there must be

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<v Speaker 3>a connection somewhere with entertainment because we know I'm black

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm proud, and those moments were moments that lifted

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<v Speaker 3>our people up, and we see something else happening. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just saying that I would like for the two of

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<v Speaker 3>you to hear that I have people who come to

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<v Speaker 3>my social media and I've had brothers, specifically some of

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<v Speaker 3>my brothers, more spiritual brothers. I'm not going to put

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<v Speaker 3>title specific titles out there. Come to me and tell

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<v Speaker 3>me that I should not have a bikini on online

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<v Speaker 3>because people are not going to respect me as a leader.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's problematic for me.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I'm trying to say so because wait, let

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<v Speaker 3>me just finish my point and you take it. Because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm showing up as my full self right on my

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<v Speaker 3>social media. My full self is there. Now, it's some

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<v Speaker 3>other things that I probably do that maybe and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, maybe not, But there's some other things I

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<v Speaker 3>might do that's not on social media, but I'm saying

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<v Speaker 3>that I feel slightly oppressed by my own brothers that

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<v Speaker 3>I know love me when I'm told that I can't

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<v Speaker 3>be in the bikini online because somehow that's gonna make

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<v Speaker 3>people not want to show up in a fight that

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<v Speaker 3>we're in that has absolutely nothing to do with what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm wearing. And so when I hear us talking about

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<v Speaker 3>decency around this other thing, it triggers me. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a final I don't I can't put a

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<v Speaker 3>punchline on what I'm saying, but we gonna come back

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<v Speaker 3>and talk about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just say one more thing. Your social media

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<v Speaker 2>is your personal This this is your personal life.

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<v Speaker 1>With those million people that's on.

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<v Speaker 2>It, they're following you, you didn't follow them. You didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go into their arena, you didn't go into their house.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't go into the church with what your baby

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<v Speaker 2>suit on and decide that you're gonna say a speech

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<v Speaker 2>and a baby suit because you should be able to

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You are.

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<v Speaker 2>You are one hundred percent aware that when certain organizations

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<v Speaker 2>and certain places come, you understand that there is something

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<v Speaker 2>that's required to do that you dress a certain way

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<v Speaker 2>because you're you're multi.

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<v Speaker 1>Thus Okay, you breaking those barriers.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you break We have been showing up places where

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<v Speaker 3>people have expected us to do things a certain way

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<v Speaker 3>and we have been like, that's just not what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but that's but that's not what we do anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>You understand I'm saying what I'm trying to explain to you.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't do certain things, So we don't go trying

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<v Speaker 2>to act like we do something and the people that call.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is what we also don't do. You

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<v Speaker 2>you are you, and you know how to be. When

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<v Speaker 2>you decide you want to look pretty on Instagram, you

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<v Speaker 2>posted a pretty picture. When you decide that you want

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be the beat, you post a picture

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<v Speaker 2>to beat. That's what you want, that's your personal thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But you understand that when you going to the rally,

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<v Speaker 2>you ain't going in the bathing suit to the rally.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not trying to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get shock value. But I might wear some booty cutters.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is this I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say with Miniester fa Arakon, me and

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<v Speaker 3>the minister had a very specific conversation because you know

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<v Speaker 3>his perspective, well, are.

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<v Speaker 2>You going to are you going to? Are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to the mansle booty cutters.

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<v Speaker 1>One, of course not.

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<v Speaker 3>But y'all think Essence, I know what I think. Everybody

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<v Speaker 3>at Essence wants to see this thing that you got

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm trying to say, Essence has are you all

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<v Speaker 3>day haking? You will never get off of this thing?

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<v Speaker 4>I want to.

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<v Speaker 5>So we want to spin back to twenty fours apiece, right, So, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>twenty five hours a piece, right is. Initially was for

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<v Speaker 5>positive artists like myself, my sign to have the stage

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<v Speaker 5>to do our thing and kind of and promote that

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<v Speaker 5>whole message. When we do that, it was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we get six seven hundred people, fifteen hundred people, whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. Twenty twenty one was a big year.

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<v Speaker 5>But last year we did Drill, We did five Yeofarign,

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<v Speaker 5>g Herbal, two Rare. We had Fabulous, who's gunn heavy

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<v Speaker 5>in all his music. We had a cls moved myself.

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<v Speaker 5>We try to balance it out. But because the five

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<v Speaker 5>year oldarg Herbal and Fabulous, that's what the numbers out.

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<v Speaker 5>Now we're on stage, it's twenty four hours a piece.

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<v Speaker 5>Every other song is I'll blow your head off, I

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<v Speaker 5>put a gun in your mouth, I'll do this. I'll

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<v Speaker 5>do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Ras is looking at me like, y'all hot, you gotta

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<v Speaker 4>fix this, you gotta do something.

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<v Speaker 5>G Herbal set was just total murder, killed, murder, kill

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<v Speaker 5>our sexually assault you. I'll sexually assault You'll sexually assault you.

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<v Speaker 5>All little girls knew every word and he's talking about

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<v Speaker 5>sexual assault.

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<v Speaker 4>It's art. It's music. I'm not saying, you know that's

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<v Speaker 4>what he's a valid me.

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<v Speaker 5>It's music. But I know what he's saying. And he's

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<v Speaker 5>talking about killing black people and sexually assaulting black men

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<v Speaker 5>and he's being celebrated. They know every word. So after

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<v Speaker 5>he gets off his set, I had to reset the broom,

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<v Speaker 5>reset the table, bring people back to why we're here,

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<v Speaker 5>because on the twenty four Hours of Peace stage, we

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<v Speaker 5>shouldn't be promoting that, even though there's a reason why

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<v Speaker 5>he talking about that. We know black men are oppressed,

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<v Speaker 5>we know that, we know all these things, but at

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<v Speaker 5>some point we got to draw a line and say

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<v Speaker 5>you can't do that here.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know if you figured it out, because

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<v Speaker 4>we might be back to seven hundred people if we

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<v Speaker 4>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, okay, well this is.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is a this is a very important

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<v Speaker 3>conversation that we're having, and I think it's one that

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<v Speaker 3>we need to continue to have because this is the

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<v Speaker 3>way to do it right, Like this is the way

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<v Speaker 3>to have the conversation about what's appropriate, what's not when

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<v Speaker 3>and how and not have white folks determine what should

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<v Speaker 3>and should not happen in our communities and where our

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<v Speaker 3>people can show up certain ways. I'm just hoping that

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<v Speaker 3>based upon me telling you about the swimsuit thing and

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<v Speaker 3>all of that, that it also helps to broaden your

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<v Speaker 3>perspective and understanding of what it feels like to be

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<v Speaker 3>a woman who has many different I have all kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of things with me, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about work and work all the time, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It has actually drawn lot a lot of younger people

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<v Speaker 3>and different people, especially women, to my world and to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they come to me because I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I work and work, so I can do both things.

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<v Speaker 1>I can be all those things.

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<v Speaker 3>And it has been not so much a marketing tool,

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<v Speaker 3>but it has helped people to see me in more

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<v Speaker 3>than just one thing. And I've been winning folks into

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<v Speaker 3>the movement because they're like, Tamika is different, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I understand it as a place in time for

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<v Speaker 3>everything I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also know that Jamal and Brian are just

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<v Speaker 3>given an example. When he's preaching, he understands that he's

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<v Speaker 3>got to kind of go to the line in an

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<v Speaker 3>area that is very different than the regular and he

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<v Speaker 3>has and his church is packed full of people who

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<v Speaker 3>are there because he's gonna get up there and say lyrics.

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<v Speaker 3>He gonna talk about stuff that might be a little racy,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's working in terms of his messages. So we

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<v Speaker 3>just got to figure out a balance, that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that, it's just like it's just like when

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<v Speaker 2>but Dumal Brian also know when he went way too far,

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<v Speaker 2>they tore his ass up, right, you remember that when

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<v Speaker 2>he said when he did all that, they said, oh no, no, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>you ain't gonna come in here with that, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>we we gotta understand that.

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<v Speaker 5>And to me, you know, you're talking about looking at

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<v Speaker 5>the culture, analyzing the culture, and being strategic in how

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<v Speaker 5>you engage with the culture. That because most people using

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<v Speaker 5>that language, male and female, are looking to exploit young people.

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<v Speaker 4>So we create the environment where anything goes.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything will you're talking about being strategic, setting barriers, doing

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<v Speaker 5>things towards a higher purpose than just the culture.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what they're doing or this is what they want.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just gonna pease them because sometimes it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you're giving it. It's like giving you a kid. Just

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<v Speaker 2>keep giving them sugar all day because they asked for it. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I can't keep giving you sugar because it's

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<v Speaker 2>killing you. But yeah, exactly, But you gotta like they said,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta put the the the cherry inside the colf

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<v Speaker 2>drop right because you wanted to taste good. But you

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<v Speaker 2>still but where is the colt drop? See when it

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<v Speaker 2>ain't no colt drop, that's where the problem is.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever you said, I didn't see this part about the other.

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<v Speaker 4>They bought a whole bunch of people on stage.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like, you know, it was it's anybody, all types,

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<v Speaker 5>all sizes, all shame, all agents. No, I mean no,

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<v Speaker 5>the one girl, her whole thing went up. You could

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<v Speaker 5>see the crack up behind it was a few of

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<v Speaker 5>them that would go help. You know, it was what

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<v Speaker 5>it was because it's meg, it's you know, we get it.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's like, okay, this is why I'm not the

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<v Speaker 5>when I saw the videos like, Okay, that's why I

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<v Speaker 5>don't go to those parties.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want you to know that B is clapping

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<v Speaker 1>cheeks in her concert right now, this word writing.

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<v Speaker 2>Concert, just like just like Meg gonna clap cheeks in

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<v Speaker 2>her but she B is not gonna go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Essence Award and clap cheeks. She just ain't gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's should I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Think, but she's not gonna. But she's gonna do it

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<v Speaker 2>with a different level.

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<v Speaker 1>She's gonna understand it's a certain way exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Can ask your question, what was the watermelon song about

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<v Speaker 4>lemonade or eliminade? Who's the Who's the song? That was

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<v Speaker 4>some real it was real gutter, but it was Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 4>And when it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Eliminade about the lollipop or something, Beyonce got some ship

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<v Speaker 3>that when you.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen to it, right, what I'm saying, it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the girl is super talented, one of the greatest ever

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<v Speaker 5>do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't even front I got you. But it's like certain

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<v Speaker 4>songs you shouldn't be on the radio. Kids is going

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<v Speaker 4>to kids is going.

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<v Speaker 5>To school, And I had to be with it was

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<v Speaker 5>one of my favorite songs, bunch of my favorite songs

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<v Speaker 5>national anthems for us.

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<v Speaker 4>It's degrading, like it sets the stage for nothing positive. Actually, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That already by the time you got knowledge and understand

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<v Speaker 2>that you already like the song you.

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<v Speaker 4>Done, you don't only because you've got to go.

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to be thoughtful about my response because

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<v Speaker 3>again I'm taking into account that you brothers are two

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<v Speaker 3>people that love black folks, right, So everything you're saying

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<v Speaker 3>is because we want to see black folks at our

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<v Speaker 3>high cels. We know what's going on in our communities.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that our young girls, the way in which

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<v Speaker 3>they are, some of the behavior that we see is

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<v Speaker 3>very problematic and it's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the culture certainly has room for critique. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm I'm for that.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's all I'm gonna say. I'm gonna leave it

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<v Speaker 3>at that. I want to I want to give drop

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<v Speaker 3>a bomb in this conversation, but I think this is

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<v Speaker 3>such a rich dialogue that it requires revisiting it and

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<v Speaker 3>allowing other people to play a role in the conversation

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<v Speaker 3>to talk through, you know, their feelings about about these things.

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<v Speaker 3>I know one thing I don't agree with is when women,

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<v Speaker 3>any entertainer says I'm not a role model, that's a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's something.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And everybody, everybody's a role a role model, a

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<v Speaker 5>good one or bad one.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody's a role model.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, brother Green, Haquen Green, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 3>joining the street politician.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we more and so sat in the

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<v Speaker 1>living room and just kick it and talk, you know, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, blessings over twenty four hours of piece because you're

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<v Speaker 3>doing three hundred and sixty five days a piece.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you do every day. That's what we try

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<v Speaker 1>to work towards.

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<v Speaker 3>And we need all the support that we can get

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<v Speaker 3>because there is so much attention and focus on the

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<v Speaker 3>negative aspects of you know, in our community. And so

1:18:32.360 --> 1:18:34.880
<v Speaker 3>when folks step out like you have been for so

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<v Speaker 3>long to do the work you're doing, we have to

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<v Speaker 3>salute you, send you.

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<v Speaker 1>Prayers and positivity because it's not easy. It is not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you for everything you're doing, and we love

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<v Speaker 1>you and we hear we support you.

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<v Speaker 4>Likewise, likewise, you guys are so.

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<v Speaker 5>Got the battery in my back in a real way

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<v Speaker 5>every time I see you guys out there, it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>thank god, somebody loves.

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<v Speaker 4>Black people, and you guys love black people.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate you all right, thank you, king piece. Shout out

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<v Speaker 2>to my brother Hakim Green Man dope conversation, the work

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<v Speaker 2>he does in Newark and just in general, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as an educator and just somebody who's actually for our people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just dope. You know, we got music together, going

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<v Speaker 2>to get his album Aubrey that he said he just dropped,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's not much else to say. Follow him. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't know Hakim Green from Channel Live, the

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<v Speaker 2>legendary group, all we do is smoke matt ism like

1:19:29.840 --> 1:19:31.839
<v Speaker 2>they was one of the first people on the cannabis

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<v Speaker 2>thing back in the days and they was signed to

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<v Speaker 2>care rest Ones. So and he's still doing this thing

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<v Speaker 2>on just a high level, man twenty five, like I

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<v Speaker 2>could tell you twenty four hours a piece of a

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<v Speaker 2>real big thing in Newark that they do, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>So shout out to him on that. And so let

1:19:49.560 --> 1:19:50.960
<v Speaker 2>me go to my I don't get it because this

1:19:51.000 --> 1:19:58.320
<v Speaker 2>is like one of the biggest topics. You know, everybody's

1:19:58.320 --> 1:20:02.599
<v Speaker 2>been talking about. Kiki p and her boyfriend, baby daddy whatever,

1:20:03.040 --> 1:20:05.000
<v Speaker 2>And you know, there's been a lot of weighing in

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not and it's not my job. Is not

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<v Speaker 2>my place to tell anybody how to handle their relationship, right,

1:20:14.479 --> 1:20:17.719
<v Speaker 2>because everybody's relationship is different. Things that work in somebody's

1:20:17.760 --> 1:20:20.599
<v Speaker 2>relationship might not work for me, you know. And then

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<v Speaker 2>and if you in a relationship where where there are

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<v Speaker 2>major things that you that you have that are you know,

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<v Speaker 2>non negotiable, and your partner doesn't have that, then you

1:20:30.000 --> 1:20:33.080
<v Speaker 2>probably in the wrong relationship. Right If he feels that

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<v Speaker 2>how she dresses wasn't something that a mom should do,

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<v Speaker 2>and this and that, and in a relationship and they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't come to terms with that, and you this a

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<v Speaker 2>non started for you and she's saying pretty much on

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<v Speaker 2>a way what I want, then you're probably in the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong relationship. And that's just the reality. Sometimes people are

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<v Speaker 2>not equally yok. Sometimes you attracted to somebody like somebody

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<v Speaker 2>cool this and that, but there's certain things that you're

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<v Speaker 2>not willing to negotiate that that person is not willing

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<v Speaker 2>to negotiate either, on the opposite side of the spectrum,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just have to understand that and you got

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<v Speaker 2>to move on from that. But my other my I

1:21:04.479 --> 1:21:06.840
<v Speaker 2>don't get. It is not even about that, my I

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<v Speaker 2>don't get. It is pretty much about why grown people,

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<v Speaker 2>family members, friends, close friends, people who claim to love

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<v Speaker 2>you or do all these things, are utilizing social media

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<v Speaker 2>to have discourse. Like to me, like, I'm really like,

1:21:26.360 --> 1:21:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm so disturbed at it, Like I'm watching everybody go

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<v Speaker 2>to social media with millions and hundreds of thousand people

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<v Speaker 2>who don't give a fuck about you, who just want

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<v Speaker 2>to critique you, just want to tear you down, who

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<v Speaker 2>just want the tea on your information to where you

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<v Speaker 2>can't even come back from me, right, Because this conversation

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<v Speaker 2>that this man had with his women about his women

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<v Speaker 2>as she came home and he had that same conversation

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, yo, you mom, what the fuck is

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<v Speaker 2>you doing over there? That might have been just a debate, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, what are you talking about? I'm sexy this,

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<v Speaker 2>But but I don't think it was all right. I

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<v Speaker 2>see you in this man face and this and that

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<v Speaker 2>you like we're supposed to be in a relationship. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was disrespect. Whatever it was, it could have

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<v Speaker 2>been a dialogue that they had amongst each other that

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<v Speaker 2>could have got settled. Now you putting your personal business

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<v Speaker 2>on the internet has caused so much, so much. We

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<v Speaker 2>got think pieces, we got dissertations, we got everybody in

1:22:26.240 --> 1:22:29.880
<v Speaker 2>the world is playing in on your relationship, right, and

1:22:29.960 --> 1:22:33.040
<v Speaker 2>then what it does is it either lessens your value

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<v Speaker 2>or it lessens her value, because now you got men

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<v Speaker 2>trying to disrespect her, You got women disrespecting you, the

1:22:41.000 --> 1:22:43.920
<v Speaker 2>other men disrespecting you. You got so it's so many

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<v Speaker 2>different things, and the world is divided, and now you

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<v Speaker 2>can't even have your own personal relationship normal, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>why I just don't get why people or who told

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<v Speaker 2>people that it made sense for you to take your

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<v Speaker 2>personal relationship and your personal issue with people that you've

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<v Speaker 2>known for years, people that you share intimate space with,

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<v Speaker 2>people you got the phone, the people you could text,

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<v Speaker 2>people you know where they live, that you can knock

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<v Speaker 2>on the door, that you sharing your personal information and

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<v Speaker 2>differences on the internet. I don't get what the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>that is. I just I'm it's so far from me.

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<v Speaker 2>I get you might have a moment, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>writing I just literally just see some other shit that

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<v Speaker 2>somebody some of our friends just sent me and I'm like, Lord,

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<v Speaker 2>have somes Why is people putting a personal business on

1:23:29.840 --> 1:23:33.439
<v Speaker 2>the internet. We gotta listen. It is a recipe for

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<v Speaker 2>a disaster because at two seconds that you mad at

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<v Speaker 2>your friend, your girl, this and that that you write

1:23:40.600 --> 1:23:44.920
<v Speaker 2>so and anger it. Don't it don't disappear. Now, it's

1:23:45.000 --> 1:23:46.800
<v Speaker 2>in the cloud. This ship is in the it's in

1:23:46.920 --> 1:23:51.160
<v Speaker 2>the algorithm, and it's showing up every time when you

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<v Speaker 2>over it and you you're trying to be cool and

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<v Speaker 2>you walking by and nigga like, Kiki, you shouldn't be

1:23:56.680 --> 1:23:59.599
<v Speaker 2>with that. Nigga too weak? Come fuck with a player

1:23:59.680 --> 1:24:02.760
<v Speaker 2>and a type of shit or the girls walking up

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<v Speaker 2>to to him. Yeah, she don't respect you. You need

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<v Speaker 2>to like, why are you putting people in your personal business?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's the thing. I mean, it's a lot that

1:24:12.520 --> 1:24:16.920
<v Speaker 3>conversation is a whole different. There's so many layers to

1:24:18.120 --> 1:24:21.360
<v Speaker 3>personal business on social media. A lot of people feel

1:24:21.400 --> 1:24:23.320
<v Speaker 3>like it's their only outlet, and.

1:24:24.960 --> 1:24:27.439
<v Speaker 1>The majority you feel like it's your only outlet.

1:24:29.360 --> 1:24:32.880
<v Speaker 3>The majority of people who go to social media. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is what I have to say about the Kiki thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I ended here, and there's much more. We can

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<v Speaker 3>talk about this every week. But the majority of the

1:24:43.680 --> 1:24:48.360
<v Speaker 3>reason why people go to social media is because they

1:24:48.439 --> 1:24:53.960
<v Speaker 3>are looking to embarrass and or yeah, they're looking to

1:24:54.160 --> 1:24:58.720
<v Speaker 3>harm a person. They want to harm their their their brands,

1:24:59.360 --> 1:25:05.280
<v Speaker 3>they want to expose them, embarrass them. They are looking

1:25:05.479 --> 1:25:11.040
<v Speaker 3>to do something to negatively impact that person's life, right,

1:25:11.400 --> 1:25:13.080
<v Speaker 3>That's the reason why they do it. So that's what

1:25:13.439 --> 1:25:20.400
<v Speaker 3>makes this whole situation with you know, with Kiki's boyfriend.

1:25:20.800 --> 1:25:26.519
<v Speaker 3>That's the reason why it's problematic. It's problematic because in

1:25:26.680 --> 1:25:29.519
<v Speaker 3>my opinion, I don't know him, so I can't but

1:25:29.640 --> 1:25:34.320
<v Speaker 3>in my opinion, he literally was doing it to shame her, right,

1:25:34.400 --> 1:25:36.599
<v Speaker 3>And that's what people that's why people go to social

1:25:36.680 --> 1:25:39.680
<v Speaker 3>media because they want to shame the person who they

1:25:39.760 --> 1:25:42.599
<v Speaker 3>feel hurt them, betrayed them, or whatever.

1:25:42.800 --> 1:25:44.479
<v Speaker 1>They want to shame them. They want to hurt them.

1:25:44.520 --> 1:25:46.640
<v Speaker 3>They want to hit them where it hurts, where they

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<v Speaker 3>feel like everybody knows about it.

1:25:48.800 --> 1:25:50.719
<v Speaker 1>The problem is, as.

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<v Speaker 3>With every situation that I have watched play out, when

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<v Speaker 3>you try to shoot at somebody on social media, the

1:26:00.479 --> 1:26:01.640
<v Speaker 3>shit backfights.

1:26:02.000 --> 1:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>It always backfights, It.

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<v Speaker 3>Always somehow because as you said, the intention for what

1:26:09.439 --> 1:26:13.360
<v Speaker 3>you're trying to do, you can't control what the response

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<v Speaker 3>is gonna be from millions of people who are now

1:26:16.560 --> 1:26:20.600
<v Speaker 3>able to weigh in on your situation. So while you

1:26:20.840 --> 1:26:24.080
<v Speaker 3>think that you're just gonna harm that one person and

1:26:24.280 --> 1:26:28.400
<v Speaker 3>isolate them, what generally happens is that people who share

1:26:28.560 --> 1:26:33.400
<v Speaker 3>a variety of perspectives have loud voices, and you find

1:26:33.600 --> 1:26:37.719
<v Speaker 3>yourself having to shut your social media down or having

1:26:37.800 --> 1:26:42.639
<v Speaker 3>to protect your family maybe or your whatever whatever things

1:26:42.720 --> 1:26:46.240
<v Speaker 3>that you care about, your own brand. Because now when

1:26:46.640 --> 1:26:51.560
<v Speaker 3>when people when you google the brother's name because I

1:26:51.640 --> 1:26:54.880
<v Speaker 3>did it, I just wanted to see, the headlines are

1:26:55.040 --> 1:26:58.920
<v Speaker 3>like so and so, shame, such and such, like it's

1:26:59.320 --> 1:27:01.439
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't work out for you the weigh in which

1:27:01.479 --> 1:27:04.920
<v Speaker 3>you think it should, It just doesn't. It never it, never, ever,

1:27:05.120 --> 1:27:08.080
<v Speaker 3>ever does. I have watched this happen so many different

1:27:08.160 --> 1:27:10.760
<v Speaker 3>times where to your point, you open up the door

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<v Speaker 3>and by the.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, you actually might be freeing like he might have

1:27:16.120 --> 1:27:17.120
<v Speaker 1>freed Kiki.

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<v Speaker 3>From the relationship, because now you're giving people a reason

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<v Speaker 3>to say, oh, you went to the end of that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, I'm not saying she's gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying that it is counterproductive, and it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>because sometimes we all feel like we want people to know,

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<v Speaker 3>or we want to rally people together around our feelings

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<v Speaker 3>or our thoughts or whatever, but it just never works out.

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<v Speaker 3>And it didn't work out in this situation. And if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in a relationship with a man, I don't give

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<v Speaker 3>a damn what has happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not care.

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<v Speaker 3>At the moment that a man goes to social media

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<v Speaker 3>about me, he has his level of man leanness to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Has reduced significant. That's just my that's my feeling. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even hear.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even see, you think, because the men that

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<v Speaker 3>I know in my family, the men I'm around, they

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<v Speaker 3>don't even really do social media first of all, so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of do it, they kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>My brother is like, I'm kind of into it because

1:28:24.360 --> 1:28:25.920
<v Speaker 3>y'all be on here all the time, so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>come over here and see what's going on. So he

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<v Speaker 3>posts a picture of his kids and see the nieces

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<v Speaker 3>and nephews and you know, sell his products and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>But for him to get on the internet and write

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<v Speaker 3>something specifically towards his loved.

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<v Speaker 2>One that will never happen, It don't make sense. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's just it's just very weird, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>we have normalized shit that is so whack in this

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<v Speaker 2>culture now, you know, And I think I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>what the problem is a lot of people. People are

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<v Speaker 2>seeing shit and people say that's old school, and it's like, why,

1:28:59.280 --> 1:29:04.599
<v Speaker 2>how keeping your family business in your household is old school? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to be old school, like my family

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<v Speaker 2>business and my personal business with my friends and issues

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't need the Internet to know those those issues.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't need it.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's precisely why they want to do it, because

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<v Speaker 3>they think that you don't want it to You don't

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<v Speaker 3>that they're exposing you or there, or they're harming you

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<v Speaker 3>by saying, oh, you know, you know, I just thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about the fifty cent son, you know, coming out like

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<v Speaker 3>oh we need money or I don't have any money

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. And it ends up in other situations. It

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<v Speaker 3>happened with Masterpiece Son, right. It happened with a number

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<v Speaker 3>of young people who tried to come out and say

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<v Speaker 3>they their parents were not financially supporting them properly. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know what ends up happening. The same kid ends

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<v Speaker 3>up going back to the Internet, like y'all could shut

1:29:56.600 --> 1:29:59.840
<v Speaker 3>up nobody ask you know, nobody asked you for your opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not looking for a handout. You end up having

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<v Speaker 3>to try to defend yourself because now when you was

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to get a message to your dad or

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<v Speaker 3>your aunt or your mama or whoever it is, now

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<v Speaker 3>people are like, take your lazy ass to work. Nobody

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<v Speaker 3>owe you anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And that might not even be right. That might actually

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<v Speaker 1>be when the parent might really be wrong, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Which you open it to somebody else's perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at what happened with Ioki Simmons, same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>She she came out and said what she had to

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<v Speaker 3>say if I Russell, which I'm sure at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever was going on, she was hurt. She was angry

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<v Speaker 3>when I saw the video of Russell responding, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we know Russell's very well. So when I saw the

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<v Speaker 3>video of how he was responding, the words that he

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<v Speaker 3>was saying, I'm a father, I'm your father, I'm your father, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Some pain, that's clear.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pain, and I can no parent is perfect, no parent.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm sure whatever pain is there he has had,

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<v Speaker 3>he's been party to it. And she also, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>she feels how she feels he's been party to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Her mama made part it's party to it, because that's

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<v Speaker 3>just the way it goes right as parents. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>nature of relationships. But I know that after she came

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<v Speaker 3>out and said what she said, she's and she could

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<v Speaker 3>have everything she said could have been one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 3>on point. But she spent the next few days defending

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<v Speaker 3>herself and arguing with people online who was now given

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<v Speaker 3>their opinion and saying nasty things about.

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<v Speaker 2>Some shit that they really don't even know. But somebody

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<v Speaker 2>given an opinion based on words that you said, not

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<v Speaker 2>even understanding the dynamics, and is drawing a bigger wedge

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<v Speaker 2>between the person that you say that you loving, you

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<v Speaker 2>care about. So how how do you think that's progressive?

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<v Speaker 2>Who have you seen it work for?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, in her defense, in her defense, this is

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<v Speaker 3>a young lady, right, she's.

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<v Speaker 2>A young so I wasn't even talking about her, right, That's.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying. She's a young lady. She's a young lady.

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<v Speaker 1>So kids sometimes do things that they have to. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to get a lot of grace to our kids.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just using those as examples of how you

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<v Speaker 3>find I'm sure all of the young people who've been

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<v Speaker 3>in the last year in the press school arguing with

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<v Speaker 3>their parents and they've had to defend themselves, they probably

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<v Speaker 3>would advise another person, let's not do this because it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't really work out.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly as you wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, even just something like where Jaden recently said, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>my mom, you know, introduced us to psychedelics. That shit

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<v Speaker 3>done turned into a whole big thing. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>he just was trying to say, my mom introduced us

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<v Speaker 3>to something that's been helpful or no, no, no, whether

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<v Speaker 3>you agreeve it or not is not the point I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he was in charge his mother exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And now here we go. So you just have to

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<v Speaker 1>be careful how you use social media because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>it's just as not what people think it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>And the more and the more viewership you have and

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<v Speaker 2>the more voice, bigger your voices, you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more careful about the things that you say.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you know that, because I'm very surprised to hear

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<v Speaker 3>you say that, because you one of the main damn people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't you tell me that, But I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>See what I'm trying to tell you. It's not so

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<v Speaker 2>much that I don't care about it. The things that

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<v Speaker 2>I say, I've already made up my mind that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>willing to deal with the consequence of whatever I say.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't talk about my personal business on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't do that. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I talk about ship that's public knowledge and public opinions,

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<v Speaker 2>and i give my opinion of public ship. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going on there with my own personal shit. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not happening. So if somebody has a problem with my

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<v Speaker 2>my public view of some public ship, so I give

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<v Speaker 2>a fuck about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But still still out Yes, what you are saying is

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent right. Still, the rule applies across the board.

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<v Speaker 3>It may not be it is different, it is different,

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<v Speaker 3>but the rule generally applies across the board that you

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<v Speaker 3>have to be careful when you start speaking on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And there have been some situations in my life, your life,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of it, where we probably would do things

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<v Speaker 3>differently from how you know, however we reacted on social

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<v Speaker 3>media or how we responded. There are times when you

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<v Speaker 3>post things right, and I'm times these are public issues.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter. My opinion of these things is who cares? Right,

1:34:46.760 --> 1:34:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Nobody but our little followers care about my opinion. And

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<v Speaker 3>I get ready to write back to you my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I realized I could just text you and

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<v Speaker 3>tell you that right, or I get ready.

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<v Speaker 1>And it happens with a lot of the people.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you do, like with the situation where ha King

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<v Speaker 3>I dropped a very non confrontational perspective in his comments

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<v Speaker 3>just so that it could broad into convo.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, and it's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>God love needed.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes when y'all my brothers be posting ship and I

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<v Speaker 3>be pissed, like, I don't know. Angelo posted something one

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<v Speaker 3>day about relationships or women or some shit, and I

1:35:27.080 --> 1:35:29.360
<v Speaker 3>broke back, like and I thought about it, and I

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<v Speaker 3>deleted it immediately because one of the things that I

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<v Speaker 3>realized is that and this is a different this is

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<v Speaker 3>a different conversation. It's one I couldn't I can text him.

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<v Speaker 3>But two, what it does is open up the arena

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<v Speaker 3>for the or the floodgates for people to feel like

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<v Speaker 3>there's dissension in my organization with my friends and people

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm close to.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't your voice attack them. People will utilize

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<v Speaker 2>your voice, your taxing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's too dangerous, like our work is. It's literally dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about life threatening danger when people feel that

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<v Speaker 3>they can see something, because then then then they become.

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<v Speaker 1>Infiltrated and attack you and are to harm you exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Ride and come there we go. And with that said,

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<v Speaker 2>lead the acts.

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<v Speaker 1>Delete everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't get on a thread if they pay me,

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<v Speaker 3>I won't get on those threads.

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<v Speaker 2>I never like threads. Is just you can put your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts and people comment. You put ship up there that

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinking and get a whole thread of people. It's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a threatening you know. It ain't that conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe one day in life, but right now,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna let y'all have that. Yeah, I just I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I have too much social media already.

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<v Speaker 2>Once in a while I might write something there. For

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<v Speaker 2>the most part, it ain't gonna be a thing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be like I did Twitter. Twitter wasn't something that.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of thing put on Twitter and learn that

1:37:02.479 --> 1:37:05.080
<v Speaker 3>once you go on there, you have to commit to

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<v Speaker 3>fighting literally physically fighting.

1:37:08.200 --> 1:37:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Was there to fight though, That's the only reason I

1:37:10.840 --> 1:37:11.439
<v Speaker 2>went to Twitter.

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<v Speaker 3>I went there because to say you know what, you

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<v Speaker 3>ended up having to come back to me and say,

1:37:16.960 --> 1:37:18.720
<v Speaker 3>you know what, you was right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I went there to fight, though I definitely

1:37:23.200 --> 1:37:25.719
<v Speaker 2>went there to fight. I went there fist the cuffs

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<v Speaker 2>balled up, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know whatever, whatever.

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