WEBVTT - The Mentor You Didn't Ask For

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're gonna get to the message in just a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the message. I want to go back to corinth

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<v Speaker 1>this week. We were last week talking about a troubled

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<v Speaker 1>mind and an open door, that greatest opposition comes in

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<v Speaker 1>the moments of greatest opportunity. I believe God gave somebody

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<v Speaker 1>discernment last week about a door that you're standing in

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<v Speaker 1>front of and the devil that you're fighting to get

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<v Speaker 1>through it. Well, this week, I want a journey further

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<v Speaker 1>into the book of Second Corinthian tewod Corinthians, Chapter twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm real excited. I'm gripping onto the pulpit just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to calm down Oh man, this is so good.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so good. I already heard it. Holy Spirit

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<v Speaker 1>preached it to me, and I promise you it's good. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I might mess it up trying to preach it to you,

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<v Speaker 1>but the way God gave it to me birthday. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're going back to Corinth. This is a very culturally

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<v Speaker 1>compromised church, confused church. But we're going to Corinth one

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<v Speaker 1>more time. And Apostle Paul is getting personal with these believers.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe he has a personal word to speak

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<v Speaker 1>to us today. Not Paul, but God. Second Corinthians twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>verse six. Paul says, even if I should choose to boast,

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<v Speaker 1>I would not be a fool, because I'd be speaking

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. It's quite confident this apostle. He's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>could back it up. If I told you everything that

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<v Speaker 1>God had did for me, it wouldn't be boasting, It'd

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<v Speaker 1>just be facts. Wow. But I refrain, he said, so

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<v Speaker 1>that no one will think more of me than is

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<v Speaker 1>warranted by what I do or say, or because of

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<v Speaker 1>these surpassingly great revelations. Therefore, in order to keep me

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<v Speaker 1>from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh,

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<v Speaker 1>a messenger of Satan to torment me. Three times. I

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<v Speaker 1>pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me,

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<v Speaker 1>but he said to me, my grace is sufficient for you,

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<v Speaker 1>for my power is made perfect in weakness. Therefore I

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<v Speaker 1>will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so

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<v Speaker 1>that Christ's power may rest on me. And that is why,

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<v Speaker 1>for Christ's sake, I delight in weaknesses and insults, in hardships,

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<v Speaker 1>in persecutions, in difficulties, For when I am weak than

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<v Speaker 1>I am strong. Now I want to preach about verse seven. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was

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<v Speaker 1>given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan

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<v Speaker 1>to torment me. We're going to call this message the

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<v Speaker 1>mentor you didn't ask for, the mentor you didn't ask for,

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<v Speaker 1>Holy Spirit, and minister your word in Jesus' name. Amen,

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<v Speaker 1>be seated. Be seated, the mentor you didn't ask for.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a argument with some family members recently, not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>Argument wasn't contentious, It just was I probably stated in

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<v Speaker 1>my position too strongly now that I look back on it.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about people who had influenced our life

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<v Speaker 1>for Christ and somebody said the word mentor. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if that's a buzzword anymore. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>big buzzword when I was starting Elevation Church. Mentor, who's

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<v Speaker 1>your mentor? You need a mentor in the ministry, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's still obviously a corporate America term. Culturally, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know so much anymore. It's been replaced by influencers. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we talk in the language of mentor.

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<v Speaker 1>But I made a statement to my family who attend

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<v Speaker 1>our Greenville campus, Holly's sister and usband, a dad, and mom,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said I don't believe in mentors anymore. And

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<v Speaker 1>everybody said, now, that's extreme, and it probably was. Looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>it probably was extreme, But you have to understand, I've

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<v Speaker 1>just had some weird experiences with weird people, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably coming from that standpoint of the idea of a mentor.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if it was Paul, I could get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Paul was a master builder. He called himself that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now do you see why God had to give him

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<v Speaker 1>a thorn to keep him humble? He called himself a

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<v Speaker 1>master builder. But everybody is not, mister Miyagi, and in

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<v Speaker 1>certain moments, of my life I've been I guess a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit resistance to people who have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>expertise without much experience seems to be the day where

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<v Speaker 1>living in there is no shortage of unsolicited opinions. And

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<v Speaker 1>even one time when the church was first getting going,

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<v Speaker 1>we need a building to meet and I went to

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<v Speaker 1>meet with a guy and I can remember the room.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember his name. I remember the room, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember something so weird that happened. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>probably why I don't really like the term mentor that much.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was talking about, you know, we need some resources,

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<v Speaker 1>and can we use your building to meet on when

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<v Speaker 1>you're not using it and things like that, and the

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<v Speaker 1>guy took it a little too far. He said, son,

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<v Speaker 1>you're here asking me for a building and a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of money for your budget, but seems like to me,

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<v Speaker 1>what you really need is a daddy. And then he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Bryan is my witness. He goes, I'll be your daddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Understand that the idea of a mentor, you know, is

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<v Speaker 1>just a little complicated for me, not just because of

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<v Speaker 1>that one experience, but I think early in my life

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<v Speaker 1>I did want somebody I wanted God to give me

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who kind of like you can do on I

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<v Speaker 1>see this video game that Graham plays called two K,

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<v Speaker 1>and he builds a player is called my player, and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes in and he gives the player everything, not

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<v Speaker 1>only cosmetically, but the skills and abilities. And I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of always wanted God to give me someone who would

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<v Speaker 1>give me the right amount of lateral movement and the

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<v Speaker 1>right tattoos on my left arm, and the right hide,

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<v Speaker 1>and the right speed and the right dunking. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of wanted I kind of wanted ministry to

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<v Speaker 1>be like my player on two K, where somebody could

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<v Speaker 1>supercharge me with the answers and stuff. And one time, Holly, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>Holly has this ability to say stuff in a sentence

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<v Speaker 1>that will stick with you. So I was complaining that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really have like I had great dad, great mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I had great people in my life who helped me

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<v Speaker 1>long a way I can stand up here for a

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<v Speaker 1>year and list them. But I was looking for that

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<v Speaker 1>one person who would put their arm around me and say, now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how you do it in regards to preaching

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<v Speaker 1>and leadership, and this is when you should build the building,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is when you should launch this part of

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<v Speaker 1>the ministry. And this is how you. Iire the right

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<v Speaker 1>staff and basically somebody to shepherd me through a mistake

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<v Speaker 1>free ministry and life and marriage, a one stop shop.

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<v Speaker 1>And Holly said to me, you know, in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of my discouragement, this is what she said to comfort me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, God is never going to give you what

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<v Speaker 1>you're asking for. He's going to give you a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people to guide you, but He is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to let your guides become your God. She said that

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<v Speaker 1>that sweet little HOLLI ferdict, thank you for your service,

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<v Speaker 1>hour's outreach. She talked to the Man of God that

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<v Speaker 1>way in my face, God is never gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>book club Holly Bird, lover Holly French for I love.

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<v Speaker 1>And Holly said that to me, can you believe it?

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<v Speaker 1>She was right. God wasn't going to give me what

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<v Speaker 1>I was asking for. One reason is that God cannot

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<v Speaker 1>give you a mentor for where you are that will

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<v Speaker 1>limit you from where He is ultimately leading you to be.

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<v Speaker 1>If God would have sent me in that season of

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<v Speaker 1>my life, one person that I would pattern my life

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<v Speaker 1>after totally, she said something important. He's going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a lot of guides, but he wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>your God, and he gave you a unique gift, and

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<v Speaker 1>only he knows. She didn't say all this. I'm preaching

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<v Speaker 1>off of what she said to me fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>God is not going to give you a my player

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<v Speaker 1>career mode for your ministry. God is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>give you one person to model after, because if you

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<v Speaker 1>modeled after them completely and entirely, you would be them.

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<v Speaker 1>And He already has them, so he could kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>If God gave you one person, the person that you

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<v Speaker 1>compare yourself to, and think of all I got just

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<v Speaker 1>be like them, and if I could have what they

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<v Speaker 1>have and do what they do, if God gave you them,

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<v Speaker 1>it would make you unnecessary. She was trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>me to see that in life, I will have many guides,

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<v Speaker 1>but only one God, only one God who knows me.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I love about God the more I experience

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<v Speaker 1>his will and his plan for my little life is

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<v Speaker 1>that He's the only one who can match the courses

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<v Speaker 1>to the calling. When you go to college, If you

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<v Speaker 1>go to college, if you stay in college, you'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to declare a major eventually, say is that you take

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<v Speaker 1>you can take any classes you want to. You can

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<v Speaker 1>show up when you want to. Nobody's gonna make you

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<v Speaker 1>do anything. You can have a point seven GPA Eric

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<v Speaker 1>Phillips if you want to. You can party and flunk

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<v Speaker 1>out and come to North Greenville and follow me there

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<v Speaker 1>and ask me to help you get your life together

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to, Eric Phillips. But you can't declare

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<v Speaker 1>a major and then pick the I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of us wow want to pick an outcome that we

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<v Speaker 1>want in our lives, but then we want to customize

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<v Speaker 1>the courses because we live in that age where we

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<v Speaker 1>think like we think that that mentorship is like a menu,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're a cheesecake factory where the menu is thicker

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<v Speaker 1>than the Bible. The menu. If you've been a cheesecake factory,

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<v Speaker 1>the menu is thicker than the Septuagint. And that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how we want to do. That's kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>the Corinthian Church wanted to do with Paul. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>furious at this church because they had the best pastor,

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<v Speaker 1>the master pastor, Paul. How can they be fighting with

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<v Speaker 1>each other and divided within each other when Paul is

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<v Speaker 1>their pastor? How can they have such a master mentor

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<v Speaker 1>like Paul and be so petty. How can they have

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<v Speaker 1>a master mentor like Paul and be so immiture? And

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<v Speaker 1>now he's writing them a letter, not as an advisor,

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<v Speaker 1>not as a critic, as a father, to say to you,

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<v Speaker 1>I see some things in your life. This is one

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<v Speaker 1>reason I don't like the concept of a mentor either,

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<v Speaker 1>because usually if we ask somebody to be our mentor,

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<v Speaker 1>we mean, will you be my mentor until I don't

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you anymore, then I'll get another one. Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>you told me this message was going to be hard

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<v Speaker 1>to preach, but you didn't tell me it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be this hard to preach to them. Now help

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<v Speaker 1>me out. No, we do this all the time. It's like, okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's how I typically do it in my life. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like I want to select certain things that I want

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<v Speaker 1>God to bring into my life to teach me lessons.

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<v Speaker 1>But not only do I want to select the lesson,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to select the outcome of the lesson. And

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Paul is having none of it. He's saying, you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot customize Christ. You can't customize Christ. What Paul went

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<v Speaker 1>through to be who he was, it cost him greatly.

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<v Speaker 1>In chapter eleven of Second Corinthians, he mentions a shipwreck,

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<v Speaker 1>he mentions a stony, he mentions many storms, He mentions betrayals,

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<v Speaker 1>he mentions opponents. All of that. In Second Corinthians, Chapter eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>Paul who paid the price to be an apostle of

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ. He mentions all the things that made him

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<v Speaker 1>such a master pastor. Now he's writing to a church

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<v Speaker 1>that is in rebellion, and he's reminding them of his resume.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, I could brag even more, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to. I just want you to judge me based

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<v Speaker 1>on my results and see if I'm somebody worth listening to.

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<v Speaker 1>But before you judge me based on my results, let

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<v Speaker 1>me remind you a little bit more of what qualifies

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<v Speaker 1>me to be in this position. We live in a

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<v Speaker 1>day with a lot of advice and not much authority.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has an advice column, but very few people have

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<v Speaker 1>true authority. Paul is not writing advice in the scripture.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we read the Bible like its quotes on pinterests.

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<v Speaker 1>My grace is sufficient for you. Well, that's true. But

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<v Speaker 1>before Paul said that sentence in that quote, he puts

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<v Speaker 1>it in a context that's a little more interesting. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to speak to you a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about today. Is that context. Paul mentions that he had

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<v Speaker 1>a revelation of God. He actually talks about himself in

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<v Speaker 1>the third person. At one point, he says, I know

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<v Speaker 1>a man who was caught up to the third heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's talking about himself. This is Paul. And no

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<v Speaker 1>wonder Paul needed something to keep him grounded because there

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<v Speaker 1>was so much glory on his life. No wonder Paul

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<v Speaker 1>needed something in his flesh because he had so much

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<v Speaker 1>revelation in his spirit. But I'm getting ahead of myself,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't I? Because Paul said I saw amazing things, and

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell you even more about it, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to. I don't want to boast about it. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>he opens a window and he shows to the wound

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<v Speaker 1>that he calls a thorn, and the weakness that most

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<v Speaker 1>people would hide. I think we need more mentors like Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>more people who will show us not only the great power,

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<v Speaker 1>but the problems that they have to overcome to operate

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<v Speaker 1>in that power. I don't ever want my kids to

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<v Speaker 1>see me not struggle. You say, well, don't you want

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<v Speaker 1>to set a good example. I want to set an

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<v Speaker 1>example of overcoming struggle, not avoiding it, not avoiding it.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul is like that, and we need this message now

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<v Speaker 1>more than ever. I really think there's a timely word

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<v Speaker 1>from God because now everybody wants to share their opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not it's even solicited. We live in a

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<v Speaker 1>day of twelve year old life coaches. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>read the guy's books early on until I realized he

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<v Speaker 1>had started six churches and all of them imploded. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a church planting consultant. Oh but you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for a consultant these days. Just go to

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<v Speaker 1>the comment section of any Facebook post and you will

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<v Speaker 1>find consultants in the comments. Speaking of Holly, about a

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<v Speaker 1>year ago, she showed me a comment. I asked her

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<v Speaker 1>to send it to me, because this is just unbelievable, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>what people will offer in the way of expert opinion

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<v Speaker 1>that you did not solicit. I mean, she put a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of me and her on Instagram and somebody said,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all are so cute and awe and hearts and pendus

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<v Speaker 1>with hearts and all of the things that we put

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<v Speaker 1>to feign emotion and somebody said, Hi, Holly, not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if you noticed, but just wanted to say, your skin

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<v Speaker 1>looks so great. It's glowing and super clear. Thought you

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<v Speaker 1>should know. Ha, do share if you've recently changed something

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<v Speaker 1>in your skincare red heart. Three comments later, you're ready

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<v Speaker 1>for this. I feel like you look way better without eyeliner.

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<v Speaker 1>All the makeup for so many years is making your

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<v Speaker 1>skin saggy. I might give y'all her user name so

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<v Speaker 1>y'all can look her up and talk to her after core.

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<v Speaker 1>How many y'all would enjoy that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all aren't safe. Y'all learn not mature enough to handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got permission to share this, HOLI, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can share it. The lady said botox can help with

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<v Speaker 1>the wrinkles. To listen to this, you're still beautiful. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could show y'all her profile picture because

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<v Speaker 1>she's got crazy eyes. Her eyes are crazy, this woman,

0:18:52.119 --> 0:19:00.560
<v Speaker 1>and she misspelled your and she misspelled she's a makeup consultant, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>She's an amateur Mary kay in the comments section, but

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<v Speaker 1>she needs a spelling teacher for the fifth grade words. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>sanctify me. Lord, you're still beautiful. I just don't watch this.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think you need so much makeup is

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<v Speaker 1>ruining your skin. And in the words of my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>who asked, who asked? Who asked? The unsolicited opinions of

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<v Speaker 1>people about how you should raise your kids, About how

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<v Speaker 1>you should relate to your husband, About what age you

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<v Speaker 1>should be married by if you're married, About what age

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<v Speaker 1>y'all really should start thinking about having kids. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not getting any younger. Paul is not a consultant

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<v Speaker 1>in the comments to the Church of Court that's trolling

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<v Speaker 1>them with some little slivers of truth that are quoted

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<v Speaker 1>out of context and telling them great advice and plan

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<v Speaker 1>that he asks for their life independent of God's will.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an apostle by the will of God speaking to

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<v Speaker 1>people that he has a relationship with. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>some generic advice from an inspirational speaker who wants to

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<v Speaker 1>sell you something for two hundred and ninety nine dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety nine cents on an infomercial or an e course.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not an influencer on Instagram that needs you

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<v Speaker 1>to follow them in order for them to get a

0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:31.560
<v Speaker 1>swipe up. Commission from a store. This is Paul, and

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<v Speaker 1>he does something dangerous because they respect him, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to question him because there are super apostles that

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<v Speaker 1>have infiltrated the church and they started to inundate God's

0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:47.040
<v Speaker 1>people with opinions. You know, you really don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>follow Christ like that. You should mix a little Judaism

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<v Speaker 1>and a little bit of Christianity. And so now there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many mixed opinions. Paul has to set the record

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<v Speaker 1>straight and say I could lay down my authority if

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<v Speaker 1>I need to. I don't want to do it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather speak to you out of the love

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<v Speaker 1>for my heart. But in order that you just don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that I'm putting my authority on you to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what I want you to do. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about my adversity that really touched me.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's difficult to find somebody who will break it

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<v Speaker 1>down for you to the level that Paul does. It's

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to It's not difficult to find somebody who'll complain

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<v Speaker 1>to you. It's not difficult to find somebody who will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what they would do. It's not difficult at

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<v Speaker 1>all to find a parent whose kids are out of

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<v Speaker 1>the house. Their kids are lawyers and doctors now. And

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<v Speaker 1>what you should do and your kid is seven, that's

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<v Speaker 1>very easy. That's very easy to do. But Paul, in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of his struggle to walk in the authority

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<v Speaker 1>of an apostle and what God has called him to do,

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<v Speaker 1>he shows appropriate vulnerability. I could go on and on

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<v Speaker 1>about going to the Third Heaven. I could go on

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<v Speaker 1>and on about what I endured. I'm choosing not to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Instead, I want to tell you about my thorn.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to tell you about my thorn. Somebody says,

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<v Speaker 1>show me the thorn, show me the thorn. The thorns. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a metaphor, y'all. It's a metaphor. It's even like

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<v Speaker 1>a cliche. This is the verse we get it for.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a thorn in my side, right, It's a metaphor.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the things that we really deal with, when

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<v Speaker 1>we sing about them in church, we have to put

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<v Speaker 1>them in a metaphor form, because if we really mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>what we really struggle with, it will scare people and

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<v Speaker 1>they would judge us. At least we think they would

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<v Speaker 1>probably surprised. You. The person with their hands lifted higher

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<v Speaker 1>than you this morning. They probably got more thorns than you,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not the point of this message. Paul said,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to tell you about my thorn. Now. Since

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<v Speaker 1>I've studied this text all week, I've learned a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about different interpretations of what Paul's thorn was. Historically, some

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<v Speaker 1>people say that poor Paul had epileptic seizures. Nothing funny

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<v Speaker 1>about that. But the reason that they trace it is

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<v Speaker 1>because when he was blinded and knocked off of his

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<v Speaker 1>horse on the road to Damascus where he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to persecute Christians, that he never quite recovered, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was his thorn. Other people would say that there was

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<v Speaker 1>something wrong with Paul's eyesight. When he wrote to the

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<v Speaker 1>church at Galatia, he talked about how large his letters

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<v Speaker 1>were because he wrote with his own pen, and he

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<v Speaker 1>even mentioned that the Galatians would be willing to give

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<v Speaker 1>their own eyes to him if necessary. Some scholars say

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<v Speaker 1>that it was from the blinding on the road to

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<v Speaker 1>Damascus that his eyesight never fully recover. Other people don't

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<v Speaker 1>associate it with blindness or seizures at all, or a

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<v Speaker 1>medical condition. Luther and Calvin, they identified it with a

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual temptation that Paul faced. And there is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of support for this scripturally because in Tewod Corinthians

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<v Speaker 1>eleven he mentions that I inwardly burn, I inwardly burn,

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<v Speaker 1>not just persecution. Some people think that Paul Storn was

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<v Speaker 1>the opponents who were saying about Paul. He's not real

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not valid, and you can't believe him, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know his letters are good, but he doesn't speak

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<v Speaker 1>so well. It was those opponents that were coming against him.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Paul does what we do when you have

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<v Speaker 1>something in your life that you can't mention, he gives

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<v Speaker 1>it a metaphor. The metaphor, and no matter how many

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<v Speaker 1>different scholars and how many different theologians trace the Greek

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<v Speaker 1>and the precedence and all of the different things that

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<v Speaker 1>it could be, it seems to be a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>confusion about what was Paul's thorn. But this is the

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<v Speaker 1>thing I was excited to tell you. I studied all

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<v Speaker 1>week and I found out y'all what Paul Scorn was.

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<v Speaker 1>And from this pulpit I am going to announce to

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<v Speaker 1>you today. You don't look like you believe me for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time. Come on, there have been thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>years of preachers. But today I am going to definitively

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what was Paul's thorn in Tewo Corinthians, chapter twelve. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get there, let's talk a little bit about

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the metaphor. First of all, a thorn is a small thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We sing about a God who can do big things.

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<v Speaker 1>But when Paul went to talk about what God had

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<v Speaker 1>taught him that meant the most to him in his life,

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<v Speaker 1>he did not talk about a big thing, talked about

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<v Speaker 1>a small thing. He said three times. The King James

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<v Speaker 1>says thrice, thrice. I just want to put that in there. Thrice.

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<v Speaker 1>I ask God to take it away three times. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this does not mean three times Paul prayed, take it away,

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>take it away, Take it away, Okay, God, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta live with it, Which brings me to an

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 1>important point. If you've got a thorn in your life

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<v Speaker 1>that you're dealing with it, nobody knows about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you need God to take it away, ask him, ask him.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say God's no for him. I was taught this

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<v Speaker 1>in negotiating. I was taught this in dating. Don't say

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's no for them. Well, they wouldn't want to go

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>out to eat with me. Well, you know what, You're

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>not out to eat with them now, And if you

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>ask them and they say no, you still won't be

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:55.880
<v Speaker 1>out to eat with them. So it would be the

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>same result if you risk the rejection and put yourself

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<v Speaker 1>out there and get some practice, and then you can

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>analyze the process by which you might have failed at

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the endeavor of getting a date, apply it to your

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>next opportunity, and maybe one day you'll name your kid

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen after you get married. Because I told you, don't

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<v Speaker 1>ever let somebody else. Don't let anybody else say God's

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 1>no for him? Ask God? Did you ask him? You

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<v Speaker 1>upraight about it? You did because I thought you just

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>were like worrying about it. Did you ask him to

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:40.479
<v Speaker 1>do it? And I don't mean, you know, throw it

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<v Speaker 1>on top like a sprinkle after you tried everything else?

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 1>He falla, he won't and you I don't want to No, no, no,

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, like Napaul doesn't throw on words. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>I pleaded with God. I don't think it even means

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>he asked God three times. I think it means He

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>launched three separate campaigns to try to get God to

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<v Speaker 1>change a situation, and after every campaign to get God

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to change it failed, then he accepted it. But at

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:25.879
<v Speaker 1>least ask, at least ask if you need God to

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>heal somebody? I know, of course, Well, if it's God's will,

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 1>he'll heal them. Okay, great, ask him, ask him. Well,

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I know God probably won't do that for me because

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably not gonna ask him. He's a big boy.

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Let him say his own. No, he doesn't need you

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>to protect him, like God doesn't need you to be

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>his assistant. Ah, you can ask him that right now.

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>He's very busy to care about your little problem. Ask

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>him for yourself. Maybe he likes you more than you

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>think he does. Maybe he'll say yes and surprise you.

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<v Speaker 1>I ask God. Sometimes I'm like, I'm like, okay, I

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>don't have much time to study today, but God, would

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>you give me my message quick? And sometimes he doesn't,

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes he does. So now I ask him every time,

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and if he says no, and I have to study

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>all week, I was gonna have to study all week anyway.

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>It never hurts to ask, but ask him, ask him,

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>ask him. I used to review Collie. You can't pray

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<v Speaker 1>for a good parking space. She said, why not. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a good question. Ask him? Ask him. I got some

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<v Speaker 1>things I'm asking God for that are so stupid. I

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<v Speaker 1>would never tell you about him. You would laugh me

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<v Speaker 1>out of the room. But I'm not asking you, am I.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I didn't ask you. I don't ask people

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<v Speaker 1>who don't have the authority to give me what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>asking for. So some stuff I gotta ask God. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta ask God. I need to see your supervisor, somebody

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>with the authority to get it. Thought, I'll need advice.

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>How need authority? How need somebody who's got the keys

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<v Speaker 1>to walk me through this door. You're asking people questions

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>who don't even have the keys. My family has launched

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<v Speaker 1>three separate campaigns against me to get a dog, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can mark each phase of the campaign is really grim.

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>But he's enlisted everybody in the family. The only one

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<v Speaker 1>who's standing with me in solidarity is Elijah, my firstborn son,

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>bless of my flesh and bone of my bones. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't want a dog. So the first phase he wrote

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>a song, Daddy can a dog? Daddy can I get?

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<v Speaker 1>He took the piano lessons that I paid for and

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>perverted it against me to ask me for a pet

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>that I parenthally have already prohibited. Then he started Phase

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>two that went on for months. Phase two signs all

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<v Speaker 1>over the house and text messages with pictures of rescue

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>dogs all day law the saddest Sarah McLaughlin eyed dogs

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen in your life, just flooding my text message.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what Paul meant in the text where

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>he said a messenger of Satan. No no, no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not in the Greek. But and the third phase they're

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>currently doing because he finally realized, Mom, you're the only one.

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<v Speaker 1>And now all of Hell and and all of Holly

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody in my house except Elijah, my true son

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 1>in the faith, my Timothy is against me. Not just three,

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>not just three prayers that they said three seasons, three seasons,

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and when you see God about something for a whole season.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever Paul's thorn was, And I'm gonna tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>it was in a minute, I have not forgotten to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what it was. I'm gonna tell you what

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>it was because all the commentators have something different to say.

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>But I found out what it was. I found out

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>what it was. I studied all weekend. I found out

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>what it was. I asked God to show me quick.

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>He didn't show me quick. So I kept studying it

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>and I found out what it was. But before we

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>get to what it was, let's talk about what it represents.

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<v Speaker 1>You think maybe Paul didn't mention it by name because

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<v Speaker 1>he did not want to limit the application to the

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>people that he was sharing it with. A metaphor gives

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you more room than an issue does. So fas exactly

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>what he struggle with, you go, I don't struggle with that.

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm better than Paul. Or if it was something that

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<v Speaker 1>is less than what you strugle with, you go, huh, Well,

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>if he calls that a struggle, there's no hope for me.

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>I used talk to guy and he'd be like, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been really struggling lately. I've had to cut my prayer

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<v Speaker 1>time to two hours a day. And the way that

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>would make you feel. He was a pastor, and he

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<v Speaker 1>would say that to the church and the guy sitting

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>out there that has to do a real job and

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>can't just sit around reading about Bartholomew and Thomas and

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Alpheus and all these Bible names all week. It's sitting

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 1>there feeling like crap comparing himself. Oh that's your thorn.

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna show you mine, but I'm gonna put

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>this thorn right back here where it was. Oh God,

0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>that's why the power of a metaphor. I don't mean

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>to make this English class, but I keep coming back

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to the power of a metaphor. We've got one new

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 1>song we've been singing in the church when are recorded

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<v Speaker 1>on October sixth, where it has all these everythings you're like,

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I can plug a song in a serment. I've been

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>doing this a long time. I've been this time and

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I like the song because it gives you examples. It says,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calling on the God of Jacob, I'm calling on

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:27.720
<v Speaker 1>the God of Moses. I'm calling on the God of David.

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>That's my favorite one because it says I'm calling on

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:35.839
<v Speaker 1>the God of David, who made a shepherd boy courageous.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is my favorite line. I may not face Goliath,

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>but I've got my own giants now. The reason it

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>says it like that because I wrote that with a

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<v Speaker 1>few friends. And the reason we chose to say it

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 1>like that is because if it addressed the specific issue,

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 1>that would be too awkward. And limited. So we just

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>say I may not face Goliath. That's the name of

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 1>a particular enemy that David faced. But I've got my

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>own giants. So when you sing that line, no matter

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>how dirty, dark, stinky, rotten, filthy, corrupted, perverted or subversive

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>your giant is, you can sing it with a big

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.840
<v Speaker 1>old smile on your face, because all the way it

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>be too awkward. Right, I'm calling on the God of

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 1>David who made a shepherd boy courageous. You know, I

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 1>may not face go LII can't be too specific here,

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah a metaphor, I mean, no face go Lie'm a

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>functional alcoholic. You're gonna get gona do they gonna do that?

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do that. It doesn't even rhyme. Let's at

0:35:55.719 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>least get it to rhyme. I mean I can't dying, right,

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you like that one? You can't say you mean now

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>says go liar? My kid's expulsive liar. Right, you can't

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>sing about them while they're sitting next to you. So

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:21.800
<v Speaker 1>funny thing is funny thing is The funny thing is

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.399
<v Speaker 1>funny thing is two people sitting next to each other

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:27.760
<v Speaker 1>singing about the other one that they came to church

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<v Speaker 1>with and the other one didn't know. You're my liar.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the one look straight ahead right now, right now,

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>right now, right now, looks straight ahead, right now. You

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know you're the one I'm singing about. You're

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the one I'm crying about. And I can't tell you

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 1>you're my thorn. Oh that's mean, poster Steven. But it

0:36:57.320 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>begs the question, doesn't it. Why? Why would a god

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<v Speaker 1>who has enough power to take down a giant with

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>a rock leave something as small as a thorn? Wow?

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Why would a god who said you could have mustard

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>seed faith and move something as big as a mountain?

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Why would that God leave something as small as a

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>thorn in the life of someone as important this Paul?

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>And it begs a better question? Why would God allow

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<v Speaker 1>you season after season to sing about goliaths, to sing

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>about mountains, to pray about them, to ask about them,

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to strategize and maybe it'll be different this time? And

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Paul said, I asked three times, three times now. I

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<v Speaker 1>launched three separate campaigns that I waged with heaven to

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<v Speaker 1>see if God would take this away so I could

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 1>be more effective for him. This was something that I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted and it was something that I thought God would want.

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>And we don't get to know. Was it physical or

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 1>we don't get to know was it mental or did

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the Great Apostles struggle with depression? See, we probably couldn't

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 1>handle that. Then we would listen to him if he

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>said rejoicing the Lord always, because we'd be like, oh,

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 1>you're a hypocrite, Paul, you're canceled. You can't struggle with

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>that and preach to me, because we like, we like

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>to cut people out when they don't live up to

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 1>our exact standards. But all have sin and fall in

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>short of a glory of God. Oh oh, Paul, go oh, pau,

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 1>go oh oh. Thorns all up in the seat next

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to you. Don't get too close to her. You might

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>get stuck. She's got thorns. And I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>something else before I tell you what pulse thorne was,

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 1>because you're not gonna believe it when you see it.

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to make sure that you

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<v Speaker 1>understand that life will give you an ample supply of thorns.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to ask for one. Okay, Lord, all right, Lord.

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I hear the preacher today. He's saying, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>suffer from persecution, bringing on luid. I'm ready, gun. I

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 1>was in a fair service one time and somebody start

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 1>praying God, I just pray for a trial by fire.

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 1>I backed up so quick. Hold up, y'all, I got

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:40.319
<v Speaker 1>a phone call. I didn't come back. Don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even want to be in the prayer circle with somebody

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>dumb enough to pray that. And oh God, when I'm

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>with somebody and they start praying for patience, it's all

0:39:56.080 --> 0:40:00.399
<v Speaker 1>in the text. It's all in the text. He said

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<v Speaker 1>in verse seven. I was given a thorn. I didn't

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>ask for it. Because I'm preaching the people that are

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>fighting something you didn't ask for. I'm preaching to people

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 1>who are fighting something that you didn't ask for. And

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 1>all these categories Paul lists will make a good starting

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>place for us to evaluate our life and see what

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 1>is that thing where we need God. He mentions hardships,

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 1>He mentions insults, He mentions persecutions, he mentions difficulties. He

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:36.800
<v Speaker 1>mentions all of these things weaknesses. He mentions them categorically

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 1>and metaphorically. But this is not a shopping list. Life

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>will give you enough of those you don't have to

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:53.400
<v Speaker 1>go looking for them. Insults. Life will give you plenty

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.839
<v Speaker 1>of those. You don't have to infer them when they're

0:40:56.840 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>not there. Do you see how she looked at me? No,

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't even think she was looking at you. Yes

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>she did, she was looking at me. Did you hear

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 1>how they said that? They said that about me? They

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 1>were talking about me. Insults. Life will give you enough.

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 1>You'll get insulted for real. Somebody will be on your

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>comments looking for you to have a boat talk so

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Mary Kay consultant Ninja in the comments, trying to take

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you down. You won't have to go looking for a hardship. Yeah,

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 1>it'll give you enough. And that's why for me, this

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>is just me in my house. Social media is really dangerous.

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's bad because right now while I'm preaching,

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>they're posting on an account about my sermon on the thing.

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 1>But for me, because life gives me enough thorns, I

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.919
<v Speaker 1>have enough insecurity. I deal with enough in my head.

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I got enough movies to make me miserable

0:41:55.080 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the rest of my life. Regrets things I replay, self doubt,

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>even self loathing. Well hold on, no, Pastor Stephen, you

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>are a preacher. You should have worked through these issues.

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Paul had a thorn. You have a thorn if you

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 1>keep looking at me this fake I'm gonna interview your

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 1>family members and I'm gonna find out your thorn, and

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:28.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put you on blast in the pulpit next week.

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:36.720
<v Speaker 1>But what got me about it was that social media

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>can be like a thorn store. Where As if you

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have enough already to feel worried about or to

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:51.360
<v Speaker 1>compare yourself, if it's not hard enough to be a

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>teenager with the fear of missing out, you can go

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 1>and find proof that you're missing out of all the

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>people that didn't invite you, and watch the things that

0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 1>they're doing. It can be like a for me. For me,

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:04.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't go on Facebook because it gonna make me

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 1>too angry. And I may not face Goliath, but I

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:10.360
<v Speaker 1>already got a really bad temper. I may not face

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>goal liar, but I have anger is shoes right, So

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't need all that. I don't need more thorns.

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to borrow your thorns. I don't need

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.800
<v Speaker 1>to be swimming in the sewage of other people's anger

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>when I've already got enough anger of my own. I'm

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>not looking for me. Instagram is like it's like thornhub.

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:43.359
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's just like it's this. Oh God, he's

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:47.240
<v Speaker 1>preaching a real sermon today. He's saying real things today.

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>To me, this is like a I'm not looking for insults, hardships, persecutions, weaknesses.

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I've already got enough of those. I need a word

0:43:56.320 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>from God. I need an encouraging voice. I needed that

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:09.359
<v Speaker 1>I can aspire to. That looks like crisis. Ah. He said,

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 1>A thorn was given to me. And he says a

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 1>strange phrase. He says it was a messenger of Satan.

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>The word in Greek for messenger is angelos. What does

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:31.359
<v Speaker 1>that sound like? Angelos? Angelos, angelos angel the same word

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that is used for messenger. Y'all don't believe me. Put

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:38.799
<v Speaker 1>my Bible verse back up. He said, because of these

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:41.359
<v Speaker 1>surpassingly great revelations, therefore, in order to keep you from

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 1>a coming sid, I was giving a thorn, a messenger

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 1>of Satan. Angelos, same word as angel, the same word

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 1>as angel, an angel, a messenger. It's the same word.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no difference in the word an angel of Satan

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<v Speaker 1>to tormin me an angel of Satan. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>that kind. I don't. I never prayed for Satan to

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<v Speaker 1>give me anything in my life. And Paul didn't like

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 1>it either, and he said, the first time he got

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<v Speaker 1>that thing, hit with that thing, he said, return to cinder,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did it three times. And sometimes that works

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and God helps you through it and you're like, oh,

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm not going to struggle with that anymore.

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's awesome, and you can testify and help others.

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>But in this case, Paul said, in this case, he said,

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 1>I had to see that it was given to me,

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<v Speaker 1>even though the enemy delivered it. He said, it came

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<v Speaker 1>from an angel, an angel of Satan gave me a

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<v Speaker 1>gift from God. And that's why I think this week,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the thorns in your life, even

0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 1>if it's a person that gets on your nerves, raise

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<v Speaker 1>your hand. If there's one in your life, so so

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<v Speaker 1>so this week, tell them you're such an angel. Now, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if they go to church here, don't say that, because

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll know the Greek. But if they don't go

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 1>to church here, they won't have a clue what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. Say, man, you're just like an angel's mean

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 1>and what the angel brother is a thorn? And I

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 1>started to get confused because he said, it is angel.

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 1>You're you're teenagers. Did you know your teenagers parents are angels? Uh? Teenagers?

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:44.879
<v Speaker 1>Did you know your parents are angels? I can't wait

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:48.760
<v Speaker 1>all week, people walking around their house feeling like, what's up? Angel?

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Angel and angel? Everybody, all the angels saluting each other.

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>That God is using to keep us dependent on him.

0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 1>You gave me a gift of realizing how much I

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 1>need God. Oh yeah, oh yeah, You're gonna see angels

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.399
<v Speaker 1>everywhere this way. But the verse back off. He said,

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a messenger from Satan. He said, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like to I don't. I don't have to like the

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 1>delivery service to open the package. So it was an angel,

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 1>a messenger of Satan, in order to keep me from

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 1>getting so conceited. God knows what you're prone to. God

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 1>knew that Paul was prone to pride. So what God does,

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:44.759
<v Speaker 1>He matches your thorn, your course to your calling. The

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<v Speaker 1>reason I can't pick my own mentor in life is

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I need because I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know who I really am yet, and I certainly don't

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>know who I'm gonna be when God gets done with me.

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<v Speaker 1>So God is so good that he knows how to

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 1>man your thorn. Your thorn from his throne. He said

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it was sent a messenger. Yeah, Satan, to torment me,

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:28.320
<v Speaker 1>torment me. You've been tormented by it. You've been tormented

0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>by it. It torments you when there's a weakness and

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.760
<v Speaker 1>you can't get stronger in it. It is to torments

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:38.279
<v Speaker 1>you that I should be further along, and I did

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>it again. It torments you that other people can do

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:58.920
<v Speaker 1>that easily, but it's not easy for me. It torments you. Torment, torment, torment, torment, tormentor, mentor, mentor, mentormentor, mentor,

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:12.280
<v Speaker 1>mentor men poor mentor mentor mentor. Paul Storn was his mentor.

0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I told you i'd tell you what Paul Storn was,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did. It was his mentor. It was the

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 1>thing God gave him to teach him grace. So I

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<v Speaker 1>actually don't have to interview anybody to find out what

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>your thorn is. I already know it's your mentor. It's

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the mentor you didn't ask for. It's the thing that

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:58.600
<v Speaker 1>showed up in your life. Because see, you've been trained

0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of things. Some of you have a

0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:04.680
<v Speaker 1>master's degree. Some of you know how to run a business.

0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Some of you know how to make straight a's, some

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of you know how to impress others. Some of you

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>know how to dress. Some of you know how to

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 1>talk real good and you can flatter people and say

0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 1>things to get out of the situation. But there are

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<v Speaker 1>some things that can only be learned in Thorn University.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some things that God can only teach you,

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<v Speaker 1>not through advice, but through adversity. Paul was not a rookie,

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and Paul was not a nude, and Paul Paul was

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>not an unsolicited dear abby advice columnist. Paul was an

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>apostle of Jesus Christ, and he didn't even want to be.

0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Paul never even applied to be an apostle. He was

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:56.399
<v Speaker 1>just riding on his donkey through Damascus and God Pop

0:50:56.520 --> 0:51:00.239
<v Speaker 1>knocked him off his donkey and said, new Boss, I

0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:06.960
<v Speaker 1>am Jesus whom you are persecuting, and had delete him

0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:10.719
<v Speaker 1>by the hand. You got a new mentor now, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>This is difficult because Paul studied under watch this Gameleo

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Gamalio was a father of the Sanhedrin, not just a member.

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Gamaliol was the grandson of Hillel. The Gamaleo was so powerful,

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:28.879
<v Speaker 1>they said the glory of the Torah died when Gamalio died,

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:33.160
<v Speaker 1>but he was steeped only in Judaism. When Gamalio mentored Paul,

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:35.520
<v Speaker 1>he could teach him so much. He could teach him

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>about the law, He could teach him about the oral tradition,

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and Paul sat at his feet. He defends himself in

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Acts twenty two, verse three. He said, I grew up

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 1>in Jerusalem, and I sat at the feet of Gamalio.

0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:48.360
<v Speaker 1>He was my mentor. But one day, as I was

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 1>going to persecute the church and wipe out those who

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 1>were members of the way, help me, Holy Spirit, I

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 1>got knocked down by something bigger than me. I got

0:51:57.239 --> 0:52:04.800
<v Speaker 1>blinded by a light I didn't even ask for. And

0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Gomalio could teach me about grammar, but he couldn't teach

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 1>me about grace. It took a thorn to show me

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:19.960
<v Speaker 1>that I didn't ask for it. And God, if you

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 1>want to take it is still on the table. You

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:28.200
<v Speaker 1>can have it back anytime. But the torment stops here.

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:36.399
<v Speaker 1>I will not be tormented by this thorn one more day.

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:43.200
<v Speaker 1>If you are not going to take this thorn away,

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:47.560
<v Speaker 1>then God, you will need to give me the grace.

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:56.759
<v Speaker 1>So when Paul preaches. When Paul preaches and he talks

0:52:56.800 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 1>about the thorn, I want you to realize that that

0:52:59.880 --> 0:53:03.400
<v Speaker 1>is the thing that God wouldn't take away. But he

0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 1>says in verse seven something very interesting. He says, Therefore,

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:11.440
<v Speaker 1>in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 1>given a thorn. And I just read that a bunch

0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and I eventually began to see. Therefore, Therefore, therefore, in

0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:25.400
<v Speaker 1>order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 1>a thorn. It came through an instrument of Satan. But

0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:31.320
<v Speaker 1>God used it as a vessel of grace. Isn't that

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 1>what he did with Paul. Paul who was a tool

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 1>who was used by the enemy to torment the church,

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and when God transformed him, he became a vessel for

0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the gospel. And if God can do that through Paul,

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:49.520
<v Speaker 1>now he said, I'm gonna do it for Paul, and

0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:53.520
<v Speaker 1>if you can receive it, He's gonna do it for you. Therefore,

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I was given a thorn. God didn't take it away.

0:53:58.400 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 1>He showed me what it was. Therefore, so ask God

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:08.400
<v Speaker 1>for this. Ask God for therefore. I'm celebrating today because

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 1>God gave me a Therefore, I'm not celebrating that the

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:16.640
<v Speaker 1>thorn is gone. I'm celebrating that God gave me a

0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>there form. I'm gonna find another church that preached us

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:27.080
<v Speaker 1>in this is too good. Somebody celebrate the therefore therefore

0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 1>so so, he said, Therefore, all the more gladly, for

0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Christ's sake, I will boast in the things that make

0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:44.600
<v Speaker 1>me appear broken. Therefore I will glory not in the thorn,

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:51.919
<v Speaker 1>but in the grace that God released for it. Don't

0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 1>glory in the thorn. Don't walk around just worshiping your weakness.

0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:02.640
<v Speaker 1>But he said, I'm elebrating because I've got a grace

0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:09.080
<v Speaker 1>for it. I've walked with hundreds of people through seasons

0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of unimaginable struggle, and what they all seem to have

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:20.400
<v Speaker 1>in common when you talk to them, if they go

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:25.759
<v Speaker 1>on living, is that God gave them a grace that

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:37.239
<v Speaker 1>was proportional to the problem. And if they live through it,

0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:41.400
<v Speaker 1>they live long enough to talk about not just what

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:47.759
<v Speaker 1>I went through, but what God taught me. And they

0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:50.600
<v Speaker 1>stopped talking about the thorns so much, it's like, even

0:55:50.640 --> 0:55:52.480
<v Speaker 1>if it was a really big thing, they start in

0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:57.279
<v Speaker 1>comparison to the glory of the grace that God gives them.

0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>They start making it look like a small thing. So

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:08.359
<v Speaker 1>I wonder who you are today, and I wonder what's

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:11.560
<v Speaker 1>your thorn. But I don't really need to know, because

0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:19.040
<v Speaker 1>God already showed me that thorn is the mentor you

0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:24.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't ask for. Is the thing that's gonna teach you.

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:30.440
<v Speaker 1>One old preacher said, the thorn is what takes you

0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:38.800
<v Speaker 1>to the throne. Because Paul said, I know me, and

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:42.279
<v Speaker 1>God knows me, and I would have gotten out ahead

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 1>of myself if God didn't give me this. So take

0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 1>your thorn to the throne and ask God. I didn't

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:53.839
<v Speaker 1>ask you for this thorn, but I'm asking you now.

0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I need a grace for this season. I need a

0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:01.919
<v Speaker 1>grace for this insult. God, you told me to turn

0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the other cheek. I'm out of cheek. So only God,

0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:11.640
<v Speaker 1>so many, so many, some grace. Three seasons I've petitioned you.

0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Still no dog. So if you won't give me a breakthrough,

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:25.040
<v Speaker 1>give me a therefor reveal something here in my life

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 1>that I couldn't see anywhere else. I'm not telling you

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:30.760
<v Speaker 1>to thank God for your thorn. I'm not there yet.

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Some people can do that. I'm not that good of

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:36.640
<v Speaker 1>a Christian. I'm not, Paul, and most of y'all aren't either.

0:57:38.520 --> 0:57:40.400
<v Speaker 1>So if we can't thank Him for the thorn, which

0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:47.560
<v Speaker 1>is understandable, let's thank him for the Therefore, Therefore I

0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:51.360
<v Speaker 1>will boast all the more gladly about what God gave

0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:58.160
<v Speaker 1>me through it. It's a pivotal moment when you don't

0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 1>allow the enemy to torment you anymore, and he don't

0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 1>want you to see this because he wants to keep

0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 1>you weak where you won't worship. Paul said. Therefore, I

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:15.919
<v Speaker 1>boast all the more. I glory in what the thorn

0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:19.240
<v Speaker 1>brought me to long glory in the thorn. I don't

0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:22.160
<v Speaker 1>like the thorn. I tried to send it back. I

0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:26.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't order the thorn. But regardless of how it came,

0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:32.160
<v Speaker 1>right now I need grace everybody under the sound of

0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:34.440
<v Speaker 1>my voice. This is not your chance to slip out

0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 1>of the room. Early, stand up, and in this moment,

0:58:44.960 --> 0:58:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I wonder would you receive what you really need from God?

0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:52.280
<v Speaker 1>And I wonder can you be humble enough to lift

0:58:52.320 --> 0:58:56.280
<v Speaker 1>your hands like you need it, and not clench your

0:58:56.320 --> 0:59:03.480
<v Speaker 1>fists like you got this, because that's the posture of

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:10.840
<v Speaker 1>power right there. That's it. And Lord, we thank you

0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:14.840
<v Speaker 1>further therefore, and we thank you for the Holy Spirit,

0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:22.080
<v Speaker 1>our divine mentor, and we thank you that you're teaching

0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:23.960
<v Speaker 1>us about your grace in this season. There is a

0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:26.480
<v Speaker 1>supernatural grace that comes upon you in seasons like this.

0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:30.480
<v Speaker 1>There is a supernatural grace that comes upon the saints.

0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:37.440
<v Speaker 1>There is a grace for your thorn. And one day,

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:42.320
<v Speaker 1>if we cannot be so proud and arrogant to deny it,

0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:45.440
<v Speaker 1>if we cannot be so bitter about the fact that

0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:49.000
<v Speaker 1>it happened, one day, maybe we'll get to talk about

0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:54.000
<v Speaker 1>what God taught us like Paul did. And maybe one

0:59:54.080 --> 0:59:58.800
<v Speaker 1>day we can say, when I'm weak, then I'm strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we can let God in. Maybe he's bigger than

1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:11.760
<v Speaker 1>our thorn. Maybe his grace is sufficient for you too.

1:00:14.600 --> 1:00:21.280
<v Speaker 1>The Spirit of the Living God fall fresh, anoint us

1:00:21.360 --> 1:00:28.240
<v Speaker 1>with oil for the thorns in our flesh and the

1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:32.120
<v Speaker 1>pressure that we face, and the temptation that we're under,

1:00:33.640 --> 1:00:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and the weakness that we know all too well. We

1:00:36.800 --> 1:00:44.520
<v Speaker 1>need your oil. I lift up every thorn to you today.

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<v Speaker 1>We ask you to take it away, and we probably

1:00:49.840 --> 1:00:57.120
<v Speaker 1>keep asking, but while we're working through it, we thank

1:00:57.160 --> 1:01:02.560
<v Speaker 1>you for the Therefore, it's there for a reason. We'll

1:01:02.640 --> 1:01:05.840
<v Speaker 1>see what it is in time and time and time

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<v Speaker 1>in time. I want to tell you one more thing

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<v Speaker 1>while you pray. While you pray, Satan was the messenger,

1:01:19.120 --> 1:01:29.880
<v Speaker 1>but he wasn't the master. While you pray, consider that,

1:01:31.480 --> 1:01:38.000
<v Speaker 1>consider this that in God's hands, Paul, who tortured and

1:01:38.240 --> 1:01:46.720
<v Speaker 1>tormented the church, became a mentor for the gospel. That's

1:01:46.760 --> 1:01:50.200
<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen in your life. The sufferings of

1:01:50.320 --> 1:01:55.760
<v Speaker 1>this present time are not worth comparing with the glory

1:01:55.920 --> 1:02:02.960
<v Speaker 1>that will be revealed in you. And so God, I

1:02:03.120 --> 1:02:06.200
<v Speaker 1>thank you for a release of your glory. I thank

1:02:06.240 --> 1:02:08.919
<v Speaker 1>you for these things that drew us closer to you. God.

1:02:09.280 --> 1:02:11.960
<v Speaker 1>We wouldn't have prayed. We would have been proud. We

1:02:12.000 --> 1:02:14.720
<v Speaker 1>would have thought it was our strength, our might, our armor,

1:02:14.840 --> 1:02:19.720
<v Speaker 1>our sling, our sword. It wasn't. In this moment of weakness,

1:02:19.800 --> 1:02:25.640
<v Speaker 1>we declare we are strong, we are blessed, we are filled,

1:02:26.880 --> 1:02:32.440
<v Speaker 1>We are overcomers, we are conquerors, we are more than conquerors.

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<v Speaker 1>Let the weak say, I am strong. Let the Corse say,

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<v Speaker 1>I am rich. We're thank you for in Jesus' name,

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