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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discuss the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds. And Donald Trump is now trying to

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Speaker 1: walk back his comments on cutting Medicare and Social Security.

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Speaker 1: We have an amazing show for you today. Congresswoman Debbie

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Speaker 1: Murcisell Powell tells us how she plans on beating Senator

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Speaker 1: Actions founder Shannon Watts about what's moving the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four election. But first we have the illustrious James Carvill.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Fast Politics, James.

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Speaker 3: Carvell, Hey having done, We're so.

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Speaker 2: Happy to have you.

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Speaker 1: So can you talk us through what you see in

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Speaker 1: the political landscape right now?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I disatisfaction with the direction to country

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Speaker 3: and meet the prevent bidener Trump popular sight Lee, But

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Speaker 3: the really important thing is Democrats are winning elections everywhere. Whatever.

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Speaker 3: We got to hope this carries through through November. Most

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Speaker 3: hopeful there.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about that for a second, because the

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Speaker 1: thing I'm struck by is like Democrats keep winning elections

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Speaker 1: and even with these primaries, like there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of anxiety about this uncommitted vote, and yes, definitely people

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Speaker 1: did express their displeasure. But also like, for example, immediately afterwards,

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Speaker 1: you saw Ilhan Omar go on CNN and say.

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Speaker 2: That she actually is supporting Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: So it did feel like progressives definitely have things they're

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Speaker 1: upset about as well they should, honestly, but it seems

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Speaker 1: And all of this negative Biden talk is almost entirely

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Speaker 1: from polls, right, I mean, is it from anything else?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, both lot, but they're part of our the lived experience,

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Speaker 3: their foulso people talk to other people and they have

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Speaker 3: a pretty good gauge of where things are. Enthusiastic people are.

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Speaker 3: The under thirty in the black number was awful.

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Speaker 1: If Democrats keep winning elections but the polls are wrong,

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Speaker 1: then when do we start questioning the value of the polls?

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Speaker 3: After the polls will kind of right. Even in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two, no one wanted to read them. It could

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Speaker 3: be off a couple of three points, but the idea

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Speaker 3: idea that they massively off is.

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Speaker 1: But they weren't right in twenty sixteen, right, they were

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Speaker 3: In forty six, and they were more right than you thought.

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Speaker 3: The popular vote number they had were very close with

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk about like what's happening in Florida,

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Speaker 1: because I think this is pretty interesting. You have this

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Speaker 1: is there an opportunity there for Democrats despite the weakness

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Speaker 3: Up First of all, little crowds actually have a state

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Speaker 3: Santis is not popular anymore. He finds abandoning books that

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Speaker 3: was misunderstood because they hate these got their books. But

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Speaker 3: the abortion issues cutting like crazy. We want the managin's

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Speaker 3: almost as bes abortion insurance rate and people that just

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Speaker 3: then you got Rick Scott because if you look at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 1: And Rick Scott has designs if he can get in

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Speaker 3: Yes, he tried to knock macile roll. He's got that

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Speaker 3: plan where lowwik also cutting people so security, medicaid, raising

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Speaker 1: And then you have this Senate map where they have

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Speaker 1: a lot of the Republican candidates are these carpetbagging billionaires

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Speaker 1: I mean, do those people win? Does that help you?

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Speaker 3: Or? Now the guy in Wisconsin already getting himself into

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Speaker 3: Yet they're pretty shortly politically and we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel like this hasn't gotten quite

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Speaker 2: But Republicans have a real cash problem.

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Speaker 3: She duty. If I said, Joe Biden, I'm putting my

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Speaker 3: What would be the reaction of people, Well, just what

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Speaker 3: I won't opt out because it's like, hey, Patriot, I

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Speaker 3: sent you and now we'll go to Ted Cruz money. Well,

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Speaker 1: Clearly, part of the cash crunch is this idea that

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Speaker 1: if you run these billionaires, they'll win these Senate seats

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Speaker 1: the RNC, right, I mean that's some of the thinking here.

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Speaker 1: Or they don't have to raise a lot of money

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Speaker 3: Well, appropriately it would be in RFC could give more.

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Speaker 3: If you have a self funding guy in Wisconsin, you

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Speaker 3: don't pay for that. That means you can give more

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Speaker 3: off Pennsylvania a self puny guy, so you can what

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Speaker 3: race or anywhere else you are. It's a double benefit.

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Speaker 1: One of the problems that trump Ism has is it

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Speaker 3: Right, No, I mean, I do what you're saying, but

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Speaker 3: not that they're certainly not can produce small show on

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Speaker 3: it would lift the bottom.

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Speaker 2: Right if they're out there.

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Speaker 1: Right, So you have that the really good sentiment for

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Speaker 2: And then you have the Republicans in the House.

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Speaker 1: It strikes me, and again I'm curious what you think

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Speaker 1: historically that the mess the Republicans are making in the

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Speaker 2: Can you talk about that.

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Speaker 3: They have a complete mills in the House or take

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Speaker 3: last week Nikki here it drops out, which yes, mister,

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Speaker 3: You have a great State of the Union. That haiti

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Speaker 2: It's really bad.

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Speaker 3: At some point, you hope some things start to kick in.

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Speaker 3: That's the great hope.

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Speaker 2: She really embarrassed herself, though I think it.

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Speaker 3: Should be having a big effect than the years having right.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, though those are polls, but I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: Now they have like a two vote majority, right.

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Speaker 3: And Buck drops out. He announced he wasn't going to run,

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Speaker 3: So Buck announcis they put to me? All right? Law

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Speaker 3: And if you remember Congress, you can't run. You'd have

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Speaker 3: to resign. She don't lose in November where she has

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Speaker 3: and what's she going to do the term where she

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Speaker 3: I mean, she's no, she's not gonna win, but she

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Speaker 1: The thing that I'm so struck by is and then

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Speaker 1: they have two impeachments that they're trying to get out

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Speaker 1: which I guess they may keep going with, and then

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Speaker 1: you have the Biden impeachment, which it seems like there's

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Speaker 1: almost no way they can keep that going.

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Speaker 3: These people are so incompetent. If we hit somebody downright

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Speaker 3: really dumb. We had one that game is comical of

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Speaker 1: Part of it is they just don't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of you know, like Katie Britt she's the.

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Speaker 3: Youngest, Marsha Blackman and Cindy Hedge with maybe she's the

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Speaker 1: Right, I mean, she's definitely better than those two. I

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Speaker 1: wonder if the house mess does ultimately really affect where

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Speaker 1: because they're just so incompetent and they can't pass anything.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of Republicans in the district's Biden carried

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Speaker 3: and yeah, I mean it's not happy, it's just yes,

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Speaker 3: it couldn't have the fact that the biggest one that

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Speaker 3: we haven't talked about is Mark Robertson running the government.

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Speaker 2: I'll cart, oh, yeah, let's talk about that.

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Speaker 3: This guy says women, you shouldn't have the right to

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Speaker 3: v big powercast denial. You can't believe the stuff that

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Speaker 3: he said. And he is the Republican nominee for governor

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Speaker 3: of Carolina? Who is giving him money? Is the r

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Speaker 3: are you going to give him money? Is the RGA

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Speaker 3: with you a dark Holly? Would you vote for this guy?

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Speaker 3: What they did do with George Sars and George Sars

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Speaker 3: it ends up giving to something, and that's George soarrs

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Speaker 3: is a lecture. Right, it's just right down running for

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Speaker 3: kind of Naiden. I've done more men not the vote.

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Speaker 1: The guy who's running for governor of North Carolina, it's

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Speaker 1: not the same as a progressive. I mean, he is

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Speaker 1: a full on Facebook lunatic. Yeah, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: even think like it's comparable to anything on the left.

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Speaker 1: But I am curious, like in that case, it does

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Speaker 1: seem like that Democrats could theoretically keep that governorship.

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Speaker 3: I think we will. I think this guy is so grotest.

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Speaker 3: What I'm trying to do is before this is over,

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Speaker 3: to have ramifications beyond that where they have to answer

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Speaker 3: for these people, For George Satchel, I mean, make them

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Speaker 3: put the mic in their pace. You know that the

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Speaker 3: Republican National Committee is given money to this How do

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Speaker 3: you approve of that? But you know that so and

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Speaker 3: so gave money to Republican Governments Committee and they get anything.

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Speaker 2: So interesting. James Carvell, what are the races are you watching?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean the Bobbysheed Tenate races, Pittspania, Michigan, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 3: West Virginia. I must just see that.

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Speaker 1: But you think Dave McCormick, I mean, they're just going

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Speaker 1: They couldn't even move to like a fancy suburb in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: The guy's been running for Senate for like a year.

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Speaker 4: It's so crazy, all right, Molly, I got I let it.

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Speaker 1: Congresswoman Debbie Mercosol Powell represents Florida's twenty sixth district and

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fast Politics. Debbie.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Mollie for having me. It's always

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Speaker 2: So you're running for senator in the great state of Florida.

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Speaker 1: Would be a pickup for Democrats probably, as anyone who

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Speaker 2: Tell me what's happening in Florida and what it's like.

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Speaker 5: And the great thing for me, for us, for the

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Speaker 5: I mean not only for attacks against our freedoms and

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Speaker 5: And so as I've been traveling Molly the state, what

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Speaker 5: I can tell you that the top issue for us

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Speaker 5: I have to say a lot of what I've been hearing,

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Speaker 4: As you heard University of Florida.

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Speaker 5: Let go over twelve employees that we're handling diversity, equity,

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Speaker 1: What you're talking about here is the Ron DeSantis war

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Speaker 2: And then he also took over New College of Florida.

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Speaker 5: Well, yes, people are absolutely frustrated, but let's remember one thing.

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Speaker 5: And so what we've seen across the country and what

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Speaker 5: They're rejecting that people in Florida they want to be

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Speaker 4: What act doing standing with them?

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Speaker 5: I think right now what we need to remember, especially

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Speaker 4: It wasn't obstential election.

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Speaker 5: But he's so arrogant thinking he has all the money

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Speaker 4: I was working at FIU when he did that, so

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Speaker 5: And Molly, I'm so glad you're putting an emphasis to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're not going to be able to have

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Speaker 1: But you know, part of this is that these people

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Speaker 1: From the New College thing, which is if you want

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Speaker 5: And so as I'm telling you the story, what's hitting

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Speaker 5: If we lose our democracy, we have to do everything

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Speaker 5: in our power for people to understand what's at sake.

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Speaker 5: And this is what's happening here in Florida. But if

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Speaker 5: we don't hold the Senate, if I don't win my

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Speaker 5: Senate seat, if we don't hold the White House, this

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Speaker 5: will be happening. This story will be the same all

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Speaker 5: over the country. That's why it is so critical for

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Speaker 5: people not to just look at Florida and say, wow,

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Speaker 5: that's crazy, what's happening in Florida. No, no, no, there

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Speaker 5: are many, many, many Floridians that reject that what's going

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Speaker 5: on in Florida. But this state has been gerrymandered, there's

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Speaker 5: voter suppression, it's been taken over by these extreme politicians

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Speaker 5: that don't represent who we are or our values as Floridians.

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Speaker 5: And it's the same thing that could happen if we

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Speaker 5: don't win my Senate seat and we send Rick Scott

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Speaker 5: back to the Senate, if we don't win the presidency,

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Speaker 5: everything right now is on the line. So when you

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Speaker 5: hear about Florida, everyone just think that this can be

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Speaker 5: happening across America after the November election if you don't

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Speaker 5: do everything in your power to support me to beat

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Speaker 5: Rick Scott. This guy wants to be my majority leader.

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Speaker 5: That's what he wants to do. He was with Donald

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Speaker 5: Trump last week kissing the ring. That's what's happened.

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Speaker 4: Pay attention. Don't leave Florida behind.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is an abject moron, so the one

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Speaker 1: thing that would be good is that he's very stupid.

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Speaker 1: But we're Democrats able to get abortion on the ballot

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Speaker 1: or is it not decided yet?

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Speaker 2: I know the Supreme Court was looking at it.

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Speaker 5: It looks very very likely, Molly. But the decision will

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Speaker 5: come at the end of March, is what we're hearing.

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Speaker 4: So we were expecting.

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Speaker 5: We also have an amendment that's going to be in

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Speaker 5: the ballot legalizing recreational marijuana, so.

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Speaker 2: That's also wildly popular.

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Speaker 5: Well, that and abortion will drive millions and millions and

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Speaker 5: millions of our voters out to the ballot box. And

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Speaker 5: I really want you to come down and spend some

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Speaker 5: time with me. Here you'll see who.

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Speaker 4: Floridians really are. I just met with fishermen.

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Speaker 5: A lot of them are Republicans and Independents, and they

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Speaker 5: will vote for me. They want to help me because

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Speaker 5: they know how terrible Rick Scott has been on the environment,

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Speaker 5: and we depend on a clean and healthy environment for

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Speaker 5: our economy, for our fisheries for coastal communities.

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Speaker 1: Right, talk to me about what you've had with the algae,

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Speaker 1: because that's a really interesting local issue.

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Speaker 2: Can you talk about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So one of the things that I focused when I

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Speaker 5: was in Congress is bringing a significant funding for Everglades

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Speaker 5: rustoration because we need to have clean water flow south.

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Speaker 5: The majority of Floridians get their water, like one out

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Speaker 5: of three Floridians get their drinking and clean water.

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Speaker 4: From the Everglades.

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Speaker 5: And what we've seen is that because of overdevelopment for

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Speaker 5: years and years and years and the farming, a lot

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Speaker 5: of the toxins have come down into that water, and

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Speaker 5: the water has been flowing instead of coming south and

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Speaker 5: clean itself naturally through the Everglades through the marsh, it's

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Speaker 5: been sent east and west and it's been filled with toxins.

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Speaker 5: Is starting to happen right now again. They're sending that

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Speaker 5: water east and west and that produces fishkills. And what

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Speaker 5: did Rick Scott do when he was governor, He repealed

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Speaker 5: some water protections here in our state, and that's what

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Speaker 5: cost the largest fishkill that we had sin here in

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Speaker 5: the state of Florida. So they call him Red Tide

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Speaker 5: Rick because of the red tide, because of the fishkill,

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Speaker 5: and so that's why these issues, you know, there are

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Speaker 5: a little complex, and there's a lot that we need

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Speaker 5: to do, including working very closely with the Army Corps

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Speaker 5: of Engineers.

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Speaker 4: But there are a lot of things that we can

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Speaker 4: do and.

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Speaker 5: That we should be doing that no one in Washington

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Speaker 5: deceased doing from Florida, to make sure that we protect

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Speaker 5: the everglades, to make sure that we have this water

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Speaker 5: flowing south. We are now seeing a very disturbing trend

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Speaker 5: in some of our coastal communities down close to Key

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Speaker 5: West Marathon in the Florida Keys, we're seeing some large

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Speaker 5: sawfish that are dying. We don't really know what's going on,

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Speaker 5: and they're doing research. That's one of the things that

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Speaker 5: I've been watching the Fish and Wildlife Commission do. They're

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Speaker 5: doing some research now, but it's starting to be more

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Speaker 5: and more reported, and that's a direct impact of the

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Speaker 5: water is getting much much hotter. You know, we had

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Speaker 5: a very very hot summer last summer, and the water

525
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Speaker 5: temperature was over in the Florida Bay Area over one

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Speaker 5: hundred degrees and now we're seeing the effects of that,

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Speaker 5: and so the environment is key, and it is an

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Speaker 5: issue that a lot of people vote on here in

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Speaker 5: the state of Florida, and it's an issue that Rick

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Speaker 5: Scott has failed time and time again.

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Speaker 1: So it really does sound like these are regulation issues

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Speaker 1: that some of what's happened with your water and the

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Speaker 1: fishing staff is a lack of sensible government regulation, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know, the state has a lot of

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Speaker 5: power in that as well. And it really did happen

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Speaker 5: under Rick Scott, and that's why I keep bringing it

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Speaker 5: back to him. He was he has been the politician

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Speaker 5: in Florida as it relates to the environment. He, like

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Speaker 5: I said, repealed protections on the water. He took away

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Speaker 5: money from the Environmental Protection Agency. He banned the term

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Speaker 5: climate change from being used in any of the state agencies.

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Speaker 5: He's a climate denier and just one of the things. Also,

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't know if you all remember, but

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Speaker 5: this is something that affected the twenty twenty two election. Also,

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Speaker 5: we had a huge hurricane that hit the West coast

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Speaker 5: right before the election in September of twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 5: and it really destroyed Santa Beel Captiva, a lot of

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Speaker 5: the communities in the West coast of Florida. And what

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Speaker 5: they were asking was Senator Rubio and Scott at the time,

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Speaker 5: is for there to be this tax relief for a

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Speaker 5: lot of the disaster hit communities.

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Speaker 4: And they haven't done anything. And so you see Scott

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Speaker 4: with the navy hat all over the place that he

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Speaker 4: loves to use.

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Speaker 5: But it's all a show. It's all a show. These

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Speaker 5: families were telling me. This is what we've been asking

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Speaker 5: them time and time again. They said that we're going

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Speaker 5: to do something. They didn't do anything. So as we

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Speaker 5: see more severe storms, and as we see these communities

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00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 5: being completely devastated, small businesses being devastated by these storms,

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Speaker 5: Rick Scott could care less what he wants his power

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Speaker 5: and he wants to continue to use that Senate seat

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Speaker 5: for his self enrichment. And we can't let him do

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Speaker 5: that anymore, not for us, not for America.

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Speaker 2: Jesus. It's such a tough situation and such an important seat.

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Speaker 4: I hope you will come back, Thank you, Molly, anytime.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready, and I want you to come with me

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Speaker 4: and Florida come down and visit.

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Speaker 2: Yes, before it gets too hot.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Dabby, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Shannon Watts is the founder of Mom's Demand Action and

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Speaker 1: a co founder of every Town USA.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fast Politics, Shannon.

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Speaker 3: Watts, Hey, the how are you?

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Speaker 1: I am good and very excited to have you tell

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Speaker 1: me a little bit about out what you've been doing.

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Speaker 7: So I found in Mom's Demand Action back in twenty

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Speaker 7: well believe it or not, and I was a full

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Speaker 7: time volunteer for about eleven years, and I just decided

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Speaker 7: that my role was finite. It made sense to hand

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Speaker 7: the baton over to another leader, Angela Farrel Zabala, at

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Speaker 7: the end of twenty twenty three, and I thought, Okay,

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Speaker 7: I'm going to take a little bit of a break.

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Speaker 7: And then I got a call from my friend Ria Schreiber,

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Speaker 7: who asked me to write a book about women and

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Speaker 7: kind of women in leadership or or really how women

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Speaker 7: can come alive.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 7: I started what is probably the world's largest field experiment

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Speaker 7: for empowering women, and so I want to tell some

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Speaker 7: of those stories so that other women can learn from that.

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Speaker 1: The Vice president went to an abortion clinic a planned parenthood.

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Speaker 1: There is a ton of talk about what it means

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Speaker 1: to be a healthcare voter and just the importance of women.

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Speaker 1: Women voters for so long. I always feel like women's

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Speaker 1: issues like abortion, which is an everyone issue, have been

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Speaker 1: sort of put on the side, But it seems like

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Speaker 1: it really has been deciding elections.

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Speaker 7: Oh absolutely. I mean, let's just talk about women over fifty.

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Speaker 7: There's about sixty two million of us across the country

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Speaker 7: and they turned out to vote right older women, which

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Speaker 7: I guess you could call with it or fifty, but

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Speaker 7: they cast about one third of the ballots in twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty two and they only make up a quarter of

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Speaker 7: the voting age population.

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Speaker 2: Can you say that one more time? That's crazy.

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Speaker 7: So women over fifty there's sixty two million of us

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Speaker 7: and they cast one third of all the ballots in

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty two, even though they only make up a

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Speaker 7: quarter of the population of the voting age population. So

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Speaker 7: the other piece of it is that they are pretty

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Speaker 7: evenly divided by party and ideology, and they are incredibly diverse, right,

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Speaker 7: So that is what makes this group of women such

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Speaker 7: a key swing voting block, and they decide elections. And

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Speaker 7: when a look at who will decide this election and

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Speaker 7: you parse the data, it's really about one hundred thousand

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Speaker 7: swing voting women who live in eleven counties in five states, Michigan, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 7: and Arizona. It is really why you see, as you said,

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Speaker 7: Vice President Harris talking about abortion today. And there's this

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Speaker 7: other fascinating study that's out. I don't know if you

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Speaker 7: saw it, but it shows that over a quarter of

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Speaker 7: all female black voters are saying abortion is their top

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Speaker 7: issue in the presidential election. Right, this used to be

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Speaker 7: white women evangelicals who are making abortion their key issue,

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Speaker 7: and now it is black women and they're on the

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Speaker 7: opposite side because they know they will be most impacted

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Speaker 7: by these bands or these draconian laws. I think that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It is amazing, and it really is absolutely just an incredible, an.

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Speaker 2: Important group of voters.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a problem because Trump has said that

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Speaker 1: Trump is worried, right, he's trying to back it off.

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Speaker 1: He's saying now he'd like a fifteen week federal band,

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Speaker 1: which would actually be more restrictive.

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Speaker 2: But the way he's.

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Speaker 1: Selling it, he's trying to sell it as he's a moderate,

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Speaker 1: so he knows he's in trouble here.

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Speaker 7: To be clear, these swing voters, these women we just

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Speaker 7: talked about who come out in droves. They are on

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Speaker 7: the fence on a lot of different issues. They could

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Speaker 7: go either way. Now they've trended toward Joe Biden. As

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Speaker 7: we know, it's white women who are always lagging based

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Speaker 7: to white supremacy and patriarchy. But for the most part,

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Speaker 7: women trent toward Joe Biden. But they are very worried

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Speaker 7: about the economy and the sixty two million women over

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Speaker 7: fifty that we talked about, they are very worried they

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Speaker 7: won't be able to afford to retire. And so these

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Speaker 7: are conversations that if you want to bring those women

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Speaker 7: your way, those are the things.

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Speaker 2: You have to be focusing on.

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Speaker 1: It's such an insane thing to think that these women

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Speaker 1: somehow think that Donald Trump, who is the other day

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Speaker 1: complaining about entitlements, is somehow going to be better for

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Speaker 1: the economy. Then Joe Biden knew, who has made our

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Speaker 1: country have one of the best inflationary soft landings of

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Speaker 1: any other wealthy country in the world.

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Speaker 7: You're exactly right, and I think you could argue that

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Speaker 7: the Biden administration could do a better job of championing

658
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 7: their wins because it is an amazing economy. But when

659
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 7: you look at the polling. When women say they're a

660
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 7: bit of a for Donald Trump, it is because they

661
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 7: think that he will be better for the economy. Now

662
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 7: what they didn't learn the first time around. I'm not sure,

663
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Speaker 7: but I think that Joe Biden can make that case,

664
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 7: and if he can make it effectively, he can pull

665
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Speaker 7: those women back over. And he needs to be talking

666
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Speaker 7: about how they can.

667
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Speaker 1: Afford to Yeah, to believe that Donald Trump will be

668
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: better on the economy than Joe Biden is a pretty

669
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Speaker 1: good sign that voters need more information.

670
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Speaker 7: That's exactly right. And look, I do think that Joe

671
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 7: Biden knows how to do this versus Donald Trump. There

672
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 7: are a lot of different organizations. I've been called to

673
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 7: be as street part of them, right that are going

674
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 7: to be surrogates for the presidents who are going to

675
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 7: start having conversations. But I really do think that's the

676
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 7: piece of this. Right, You find the spark. What is

677
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 7: it that is lighting women up. What are issues that

678
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 7: they care about? We know, reproductive health, maternal health, abortion,

679
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 7: the economy, children's safety, our own safety. And then you

680
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 7: start the fire. You create spaces for women who are

681
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 7: passionate to connect and encourage action and I'll just give

682
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 7: you an anecdote, right, I mentioned that a few months

683
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 7: to me an action, I started really the largest field

684
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 7: experiment for having these conversations and when our volunteers decided

685
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 7: to run for office, because if you spend any time

686
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 7: at the state House at all, you realize these people

687
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 7: aren't rocket scientem right when they knock the doors in

688
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 7: rural areas, these are mostly damn women. Even Republicans are

689
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 7: saying to them, put your signs in my yard because

690
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 7: I am so afraid my kids aren't safe from their schools.

691
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 7: And I think safety and freedom and rights that is

692
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 7: a place where all, hopefully all women can meet and

693
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 7: have agreements. And so that's what the Biden administration needs

694
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 7: to tap.

695
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Speaker 1: Into, right, And I think that the way to do

696
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: that is with saraguts, Right, I mean advertising saragats and

697
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: doing things like visiting a planned parenthood clinic in Minnesota.

698
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean, aren't these the things that will yes so

699
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: talk to us about that?

700
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 7: It is getting out there having these conversations. You know

701
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 7: the other thing about the Biden administration, this is the

702
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 7: youngest most diverse administration in history. And I understand their

703
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 7: concerns or issues or whatever, The problem is with Joe Bynesage.

704
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 7: I think his wisdom is an asset. But let's say

705
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 7: that's your conc Not only does he needs surgates to

706
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 7: be having these conversations, I think he needs to put

707
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 7: the surrogates out front and center to show how young

708
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 7: and how diverse they are and that they understand what

709
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 7: women's concerns are.

710
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Speaker 2: It is a very diverse cabinet. It's a very young cabinet.

711
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Speaker 1: But the admin has also just done a lot of

712
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: like really kind of smart things when it comes to

713
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: infrastructure spending, when it comes to the Chips Act, when

714
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: it comes to economic things, and now this new budget

715
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: is really set up to protect social security and medicare.

716
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Speaker 1: I'm reminded of this idea that good policy makes good politics.

717
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 7: That's exactly right. And the other thing, you know, you

718
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 7: just jogged my memory about the fact that also this

719
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 7: investment that the administration is about to make in a

720
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 7: women's healthcare and research right.

721
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, talk about that.

722
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Jill Biden is working on legislation.

723
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Speaker 3: MARYS.

724
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Speaker 7: Shriiver has been a huge champion of it. And when

725
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 7: you talk about systemic sexism, the fact that menopause, which

726
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 7: is currently impact and tens of millions of women at

727
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 7: any given trum It is so understudy, it is so underfunded,

728
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 7: and women are winning so much longer. Do you go

729
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 7: back to nineteen hundred, not that many women lived past

730
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 7: the age of fifty, but now it's very likely you're

731
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 7: going to live to eighty and beyond. And we know

732
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 7: part of the reason that women struggle so much with

733
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Speaker 7: things like Alzheimer's or bone fractures or heart disease, and

734
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 7: because our shell moones go off a cliff at age fifty,

735
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 7: and yet it isn't being studied. So I mean, for

736
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 7: this legislation to be passed and signed into law by

737
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 7: the president, I think would just be another example to

738
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 7: these sixty two million women over the age of fifty

739
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Speaker 7: that the president is listening and that he cares.

740
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

741
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Speaker 1: But also, we talk so much about how this administration

742
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: has trouble communicating. Do you think that part of it

743
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: is the problem with just the fractured media ecosystem. I mean,

744
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: the idea that Trump is better in the economy, and

745
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: I've seen pauls that reflect this seems insane to me,

746
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: especially because he did these tariffs that were very inflationary.

747
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not very smart.

748
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Speaker 1: About the economy, and in fact, he had all of

749
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: these personal bankruptcy and he still owes about half a

750
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: billion dollars for a fraud judgment.

751
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Speaker 2: So I'm just curious what you think about that.

752
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Speaker 7: Well, you know, I before I started mompting in action,

753
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 7: for twenty years, I was in corporate communication, So I

754
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 7: know a thing or two about how to message. And

755
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 7: the problem when you are up against an opponent like

756
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 7: Donald Trump who has absolutely no guardrails or scruples, is

757
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 7: that what he says people believe, and when you say

758
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 7: it often enough, they believe it even more. We've talked

759
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 7: about the fact that you know, this is cult like, right,

760
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 7: that's the kind of messaging that he's propagating. It's very

761
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 7: very effective, It's incredibly sticky, and sometimes you know, even

762
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 7: very intelligent people have card time sorting back from fiction.

763
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 7: It's understandable. So I think when you were up against

764
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 7: someone like that, it's really incumbent on on the Biden

765
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 7: Harrison administration and all of their s and all of

766
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 7: the different democratic machinery to be going hard and to

767
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 7: really tout fact that Joe Biden has done so much.

768
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 7: I mean even just on the issue of gun safety. Right,

769
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 7: he's the first president in a generation to get gun

770
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 7: safety legislation through Congress, and it's saving so many lives.

771
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Speaker 7: It's making a huge difference. And so I hope that

772
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 7: what we will see is the administration you're using every

773
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 7: tool at its disposal, and at the end of the day,

774
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 7: they should have more tools than Donald Trump does because

775
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 7: they are the incumbents to hammer this home over and

776
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 7: over again with the right audiences. And I do think, look,

777
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 7: I know that the State of the Union address would

778
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 7: be forgotten, you know, in a week, but I do

779
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 7: think it was a reset. I think it's an opportunity

780
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 7: to kind of look at at what is effective and

781
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 7: what isn't in terms of communications, at start over again,

782
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 7: at spend the next however many months we have until

783
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 7: the election, making sure that they are talking to again,

784
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 7: undred thousand women in eleven counties in five states who

785
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 7: will decide this election.

786
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Speaker 1: So crazy, I mean, it's just, you know, we forget

787
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: how small all these margins are. And it's funny because

788
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I grew up in a time.

789
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: I guess I kind of did. I grew up in

790
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: a time, right, Florida. I mean, Florida decided that two

791
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: thousand elections, so we shouldn't be so shocked at how

792
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: small these margins are.

793
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: But I'm still so shocked at how small these margins are.

794
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know one thing I worry about.

795
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 7: I'm teaching your class right now at USC, and you know,

796
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 7: these are kids who are under twenty two years old,

797
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 7: and they don't get the value of their vote. They

798
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 7: only have grown up knowing sort of this dysfunction in

799
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 7: our political system, and they feel tired and they feel

800
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 7: like their vote doesn't matter. And I even talk to people,

801
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 7: you know, in my own age group who feel tired.

802
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 7: And we just can't afford to be tired, because, as

803
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 7: you said, the margins are so small. We keep being

804
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 7: told every election is the election of our lifetime. But

805
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 7: it's true, the stakes keep getting higher. Isn't just for

806
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 7: these federal elections. We have to be voting up and

807
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 7: down the ballot in every single cycle. Our Volunteer Made

808
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 7: Action volunteers run for office and sometimes win by less

809
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 7: than one hundred votes. So that really means that your

810
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 7: vote is incredibly powerful and you should be using it.

811
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Speaker 1: What is the pipeline between Mom's demand and running for office.

812
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: Can you talk a little bit about that.

813
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

814
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Speaker 7: So, you know, what we realized a couple of years

815
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 7: in was that as soon as you gave women the skills,

816
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 7: women gun violence survivors and now students, it was just

817
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 7: sort of intuitive, right that they would say, oh, I

818
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 7: know how to advocate. Why wouldn't I do it from

819
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 7: the other side of this desk? And especially, as I said,

820
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 7: after you spend time at state houses where eighty five

821
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 7: percent of the lawmakers, our men, most of them are

822
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 7: white men, and again they are not rocket scientists. So

823
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 7: our volunteers, I think we've had something like over two

824
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 7: hundred win and hundreds of more run and you know,

825
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 7: you don't always win the first time, so they run again.

826
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Speaker 7: And so we have this program called Demand a Seat.

827
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 7: It trains volunt tiers on how to run, what office

828
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 7: to run for. And then because you are a months

829
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 7: to inaction volunteer, you have really, you know, a built

830
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 7: in kitchen table of door knockers and advocates and funders

831
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 7: who can help you win. And you know, the saying

832
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 7: is if you don't have a seat at the table,

833
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 7: you're probably on the menu. And we are seeing women's

834
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 7: rights and freedoms on the menu everywhere. So I think

835
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 7: there is a moral imperative in this country for women

836
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 7: to run for office. You don't have to do it

837
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 7: at the career, you don't have to do it for

838
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 7: a life toing, But I do think you should look

839
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 7: around and think about where you can help make a difference.

840
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mom's demand really did change the game when it

841
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: comes to gun violence. Will you talk a little bit

842
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: about what that looks like.

843
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 7: Well, when I started a month to mean in action

844
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 7: back in twenty twelve, about a quarter of all Democrats

845
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 7: in Congress had an a rating for me in RA

846
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 7: a quarter. So they were voting with the gun lobby.

847
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 7: They were afraid to go up against them because what

848
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 7: the gun lobby had where all of these grassroots supporters

849
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 7: who were actually really just gun buyers, right, And when

850
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 7: they had a bill up at the state House or

851
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 7: at city council or even in Congress, gun extremists were

852
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 7: the ones who were showing up. And I think in

853
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 7: many ways the Sandy Hook school shooting was the straw

854
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 7: that broke the camel's back. Now, shame on me and

855
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 7: every other white woman who waited too long to get

856
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 7: involved while black and brown children were being killed in

857
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 7: their communities for decades, and you know, black women were

858
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 7: advocating without much attention at all. But I do think

859
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 7: that finally that was a watershed moment, and I felt

860
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 7: like it was my job, it was our organization's job

861
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 7: to teach white women when they came into the movement.

862
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 7: You can't just advocate for the safety of your children

863
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 7: and their schools. This is not just about an assault

864
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 7: weapons ban. This is about unlocking dollars for community violence

865
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 7: intervention programs. It's for background checks, it's for red flag laws.

866
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 7: It's a whole host of things to try to look

867
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 7: at a complex issue holistically, which is what the bipartisan

868
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 7: Safer Communities Act that Joe Biden signed into law did.

869
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Speaker 7: But the last twelve years, Monsterman Action is now twice

870
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 7: as large as the NA was, over ten million supporters.

871
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 7: And we did what we set out to do, which

872
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 7: is to crush the NA. They are no lawer a

873
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 7: political power. The problem is that we did not account

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Speaker 7: for the fact that the right wing would absorb the

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Speaker 7: dogma of the NRA and take it even further. Right

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Speaker 7: guns are now an organizing principle for the right way,

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Speaker 7: and I don't just mean around guns.

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Speaker 4: So guns are a.

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Speaker 7: Way to get new recruits in the door, to raise money,

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Speaker 7: and to excite the base about a whole host of

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Speaker 7: issues that have nothing to do with guns. That fever

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Speaker 7: has to be broken before we start to see a

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Speaker 7: real difference. But again, fifteen Republicans voted for the bipartisan

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Speaker 7: Saper Communities Act. That is a seismic shift in American politics.

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Speaker 7: Not a single Democrat has an a rating anymore from

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Speaker 7: the NRA. They're very proud of their ass So I

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Speaker 7: understand that it can be frustrating because it's incremental, but

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Speaker 7: it is happening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a real sea chain and a really important one.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Shannon wants, of course, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: And no moment.

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Speaker 6: Jesse Cannon my young fast player from a few seasons ago.

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Speaker 6: Mister Steve Minuchin, you may remember him as being part

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Speaker 6: of the Trump administration.

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Speaker 2: Posing with a giant sheet of money and being married.

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Speaker 6: Sorry used to say, having a wife who made one

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Speaker 6: of the most demented movies of all time and who

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Speaker 6: is very young.

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Speaker 2: Today on CNBC, Steve Minuchin.

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Speaker 1: Lied about paying down the debt and he said he

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Speaker 1: was starting to pay off the debt when he was

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Speaker 1: in the Trump administration before COVID.

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Speaker 2: Of course that was complete fiction because.

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Speaker 1: They had recently passed an enormous tax cut and had

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Speaker 1: no interest in paying off the debt. But this whole

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Speaker 1: kind of weird fantasy about what the Trump economy was

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Speaker 1: and not about the pandemic and the economic catastrophe that

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Speaker 1: followed lying about the Trump economy.

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Speaker 2: That is our moment of fuckery.

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Speaker 1: Steve Mnuchin doesn't just pose with money, He's also a liar.

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Speaker 1: That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in

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