WEBVTT - To hell and back with Perry Saturn! 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:31.040 Hey everyone, this is between Eachtween Francine and you are 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:35.240 listening to Eyes up Here Within on the iHeart Radio 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:39.440 Network or wherever you get your podcasts. As always, I 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:43.400 am going by my co host Chad guys Chad Rockinson's 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:44.599 song he loves. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:46.840 It, love it, you love our interests. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.919 I'm loving it because I got it in stereo right now. 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:51.080 I got the new headphones and. 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:53.479 It's loud. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:54.800 It's very loud. 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:55.640 Yeah. 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.280 Well, I love this song time. 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.320 Hand picked, hand picked me. 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.400 I know we're gonna start. 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.679 Off pretty high. I just sent the link. Our guest 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.759 is ready to go. I am so excited to talk 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:16.160 to him. I saw him this past weekend. I was 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:20.080 at the big event in Long Island, New York, and 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.880 I was signing with Tommy Dreamer and Tommy goes, is. 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:25.920 That so and so? 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.720 And I was like, oh my god, it is because 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.880 I haven't seen him literally. 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:33.960 Probably since e c W. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.680 Wow. Really I don't think I've. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:41.000 Ever seen him at any conventions. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.600 And maybe he can help me out with that one. 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:45.640 Yeah, because he left kind of early. 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.840 From Easty Yeah, like as you guys were heating up, 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.600 he kind of that's when he left. 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.040 I can't remember what year. We can ask him. 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:58.960 But I was so happy to see him, and I 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:03.360 sat with him for a while and uh, just you know, 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:04.520 caught up with him. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.360 What's he doing? Because I've always. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:12.480 Heard like different stories, but I never knew what to believe, 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:17.160 and you know, sometimes people exaggerate and all this kind 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:17.639 of stuff. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.639 But I'm I'm ecstatic to. 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:24.639 Have him and I can't wait to dive in and 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.200 talk to him. 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:27.800 I got it. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.079 The date where he made his debut for the other 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.680 company is insane when I tell you what it was. 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:38.520 Okay, Well, he just texted me ready and I'm like, 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:40.200 you have to click the link. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.359 Like the link, it's so cute. Lets this way. 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:49.040 He left ECW okay and jumped to another organization and 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:53.080 made his debut there in September of nineteen ninety seven. 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.200 So he wasn't with us that long. It felt like 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:57.720 they were. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.639 So that meant he left there twenty seven years ago. 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.480 There we go, do you connect it? 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:11.919 Wait a minute, now, there was a bar dead head 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.320 enter in it and I never pressed it. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:18.360 I didn't realize. I was just now, well, I didn't get. 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.919 To introduce you. Everybody. This is Perry Saturn. 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.280 Have one of the greatest tag teams I've ever seen 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:28.239 in my life, the Eliminators, if you've never seen them. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.720 Him and Cronus were unbelievable in the Ring in E. 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:32.200 C W. 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.160 I'm not really sure if they worked anywhere else. Let's 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:37.800 talk about it here he is again. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:47.200 Yeah, I'm sorry. I won't touch no more buttons until Yes. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.280 First of all, I just gave you a hell of 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.680 an intro. I said you were one of the greatest 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.360 tag teams I've ever seen in my life. And that's 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.560 the honest of God's truth, even though you beat the 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:00.320 living hell out of me, and it's still love you 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:02.160 so very much. 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.480 And we loved you do because you were awesome, never complained. 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:10.400 And I know we've potatoed the kid out of you 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.480 because we potatoed everyone though, so. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:15.080 You know what it was. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:21.480 It wasn't ass for sure, for sure, because he's flung 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:22.159 it around. 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.760 Some of the boys didn't want to take the finish, 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:26.919 and we used to give it to you all the time. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.120 I think I'm the only girl who ever took it. 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:36.160 We gave it the Doula once too, once took it. Oh, 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.520 she didn't take it. We were supposed to give it 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:42.480 to her something else, say you're you're tougher than all 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.080 the boys because they all complained. 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:49.239 You know, I must have took that twenty times. 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.840 Oh yeah, and every time they looked like you got 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:53.000 killed every time. 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:54.760 Yeah, I think I did. 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:00.279 Well already? You weigh we did? You weigh sixty pounds? Wait? 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:08.080 John was throwing his big bad asked right at you. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.360 I can I just say how happy I was to 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:15.360 see you this past week. I was just telling Chad, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:19.120 my co host, I don't think i've seen you since ECW. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:21.479 No, we haven't. We haven't. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.480 Where can you fill us in? Where have you been? 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.040 Because that's the first thing I asked you, Like, where 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:28.640 have you been all these years? 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:34.880 Why I spent I spent uh until about a decade ago. 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:43.080 I spent my most of my adult life high on something. Yeah. Yeah, 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:47.840 now I'm sober, which sober addict is the most boring 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.200 person alive. You don't do anything. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.480 We had a great conversation this weekend. 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.640 No, I can still have a conversation, but I'm not 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:01.200 going to do anything exciting like I you to do? Well? 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.599 What There's so many things that you could do that 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:04.440 you don't need drugs? 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:09.880 I know that's half a joke. Come on, aways a 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:11.120 deal with sobriety. 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.279 Listen, I say to Perry, how do you feel? And Perry, 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:15.359 what have you always said to me? 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.080 Back with my hands? 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:23.240 With my hands? And I'm going jokes since. 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.880 Yeah, yeah, I said that for my One of my 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.160 good friends when I was a kid used to say that, 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.719 and I stole it from him and just kept saying 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:31.440 it always. 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:33.880 You should put that on a shirt. This is your 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.599 big comeback. You need to get a PW T store. 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.720 Right, I'll end up bringing me too if I put 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.680 that on my shirt, because they'll take it the wrong way. 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.880 Oh my god, Perry, how long were you in e 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.360 c W Because we just looked something up and it 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.200 said you guys left in ninety seven? 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:50.960 Was that right? 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:56.640 I know, I thought ninety eight. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.320 I thought it says you did. It says you debut dude, 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:01.520 and it's just Perry. 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:06.320 I think it's just Perry debuted in WCW September eighth seven. 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.960 Well, then the best when I debuted in there, because 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:12.720 I was there for a couple of years, I thought 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.360 for sure, well. 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.880 You had to debut with us, maybe in late ninety five. 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:19.120 Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.720 Then, Okay, so a couple of years here because a. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:24.600 Lot of it. By the time I left about the 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:29.160 boys weren't there anymore, you know, like nine one more, 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:33.720 and you know, it was a whole new group of guys. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:34.200 Money. 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.720 Me and John were fist fighting each other every night 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.240 where you couldn't fucking team together anymore. And PAULI won't 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:42.840 break us up. 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:45.440 Paul wouldn't break you up. 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.840 Nope, no pizza Paula. Pauli was always great to me. 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.400 I have nothing negative to take. And he told me, 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.960 he goes Perie, I've spent way too much money getting 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.000 you guys over. There's no way I'm breaking you up. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.280 And that's why you see I never. 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:02.920 Heard and I told and I told him, I go, Paulie, 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.840 a good chance, I'm gonna go to W. W. Wood Scottie. 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:11.920 Then at that paper you in Florida, And then Paulie felt, uh, 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.400 maybe that I disrespect him, know something, because any strange 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.120 at me in front of all the boys. I'll give 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.680 a fuck go if you want to leave league. And 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:24.160 I said, okay, Paulie, I'll be going. Where was I 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.160 I don't know what was right in the building you know, 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:32.160 because I didn't. I I'm very you know, I intense, 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.439 and I don't mean nothing by it, and I so maybe, 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:39.280 uh maybe I it came across harder than I wanted 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:44.200 you to, you know, because Paulie obviously got offended because 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.160 he is the only time he ever yelled at me 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.000 or anything that I was unaway. 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.600 Well, I was unaware of the heat between you and John. 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:57.560 And we're going to show and Pittsburgh. We did whatever 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.839 that was before we got into a fighting console. But 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.000 over four thousand dollars worth of damage in the room. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.880 Wow, what were you fighting over? 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.760 We were John, we were supposed to. Uh, we're at 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.120 the bar and we're going to go back to the hotel. 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.719 And John didn't want to go back, and I based's 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.760 gonna have to go back, you know, And it was okay, 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.920 let me tell these girls good bye. He left and 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:23.280 just left me and we were like pretty far from 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.640 the airport. So John got to the hotel before me, 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:28.720 and we knew I was gonna be pissed. As soon 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:30.240 as I get in the room, he jumped on me. 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:37.360 You know, Oh my god, I do you. 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:41.320 Remember the kids from the guys from reading, They were 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.400 like a biker guys up means John gone to a fight. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.600 They tried to break us up and we beat them up, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.600 and Paul got mad. He said, you guys can't do that. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:51.959 We're fighting every day just. 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:56.719 About so you wait, you and you and John were 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.680 gonna fight. You saw these guys, you end up. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.080 Grabbed us to break us up, and when they glad us, 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:04.680 we ended up beating the ship out of them. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.480 And so after you beat them up, did you start 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:08.640 beating each other up again? 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:15.920 Right then, PAULI was over there yelling, you know, forever, 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:20.959 John and I got along like brothers for ever. I mean, 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.240 we were together and that forever, and all of a sudden, 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.640 he just, uh, his new girlfriend at the time, my wife, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.880 whoever she was, kept telling him that I was fucking 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.760 them over and stuff. You know, I'm sorry, do you 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.400 have to watch my mouth now? You're fine, Okay, I'll 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.079 try not to swear, but uh, you know, but so 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.439 uh and he was, you know, I would say we 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.959 got to do something, and he would go, nowth Stacey 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.720 things I should do this. I don't care what she 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:54.880 thinks she should do, wait in the match or going 0:10:54.960 --> 0:11:00.480 to the arena or something. I mean you you talked 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.240 to John, so you know how he were He couldn't 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.679 get to any show without me or anything. You know. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.559 Yeah, I do remember that about him. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.600 And you know he had he had the deletion real bad. 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:16.800 So if I tell him, you know, take our exit, 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:22.320 uh whatever road, Martin Martin Luther King's Boulevard. If I 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.840 don't tell him the exit number, He'll keep driving until 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:30.240 I told him to get off, you know, because because 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.240 he had he had that delection real bad. And you 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:32.800 couldn't read. 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:39.720 This sucks you, Okay, Well I remember you guys just 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.319 getting along all the. 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:47.000 Time, or we lived together for millions of years, you know, 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.520 and we were we were we were We're in Japan 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.000 for a couple of years together. We were in Memphis for 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.840 over a year, you know, just everywhere. You know, I're 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:59.920 from the same same neighborhood at. 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.840 Home, right right, so that's Boston. 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.800 Yeah, okay, So so before you even came c W, 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:09.960 you guys were doing territories together. 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.760 We were working, we were working in uh Japan all 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:21.480 the time. Yeah, And uh Taz contacted me one time 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.600 and I sent him a tape and about three months later, 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.000 Paul he called me at like three in the morning, right, 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:31.959 and said he'd liked it, and so we came in 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.960 and then when we got there, we always didn't make 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:36.800 it to the show. We got off the plane and 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:40.040 we started walking to the gate and lo Met was 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:44.160 there to pick us up. Oh yeah, and she goes, 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.120 are you guys be an eliminator? And I swear I 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:53.400 almost said no and turned around and walked out. GC 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.440 smelled bad, and it was. She was very nice. But 0:12:56.480 --> 0:13:02.400 it was more than what I was expecting. I got Youah, 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:07.840 we almost didn't make it. I was saying, no, we're yeah. 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.199 Well I'm glad you did make it. Let me ask 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:10.040 you this. 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.000 I love you. That was the best place I ever worked, 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.720 you know, as far as but everybody got along so good. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:18.200 We did right. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.360 It was like a family. We still say that to 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:24.520 this day. And that's why I was you because I 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:25.800 hadn't seen you in so long. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:32.959 Yeah, maybe everywhere everywhere else I've been this real clique. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.920 We had a little clique thing, but it wasn't a 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:38.880 major deal. You know, the pot had to all hung 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.400 out together because they did the pot and the guys 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.880 doing the stonemas were together. You know, that's your talent. 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.600 But the other place, your w W W c W 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:52.480 and w W is real clicking, you know, And so 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.480 there'll be a group of guys who love you and 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.720 then there'll be a group of guys who hate you. 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.960 You gotta deal with both that ship all the time. 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.960 Yeah, because we I've said it so many times. I 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:04.920 was never in the drug click. I was never in 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.040 the like the drinking click and stuff. But I was 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.280 friends with everyone because everybody got along with each other, 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:10.600 you know. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:15.079 Yeah, yeah, See, I worked in the office in Long 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.280 Island and I was a drug addict, so I was 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:22.000 kind of in between the two clicks. You know. Well 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.440 I would have to go to Pauli's house during the 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:28.280 week with the editing of the videos and chid and 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.040 then I'm the week will not do y'all fucked up 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:31.240 and could only walk you know. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.280 Oh geez, Well you never knew it in the ring. 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.920 No, I never said. I never was before the math, 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.800 only after right before Did. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.640 You use total elimination before you got to e c W. 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:49.600 Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, that to me, that is one 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.920 of the best finishing news I've ever seen. 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.600 And I'm not just saying that because you're in front 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:55.680 of me. I've said it for. 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.360 I was going down to the performing tenor in Orlando 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.720 a few times. I tried to teach a bunch of 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.720 the kids down and other do it, and none of 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.680 them could do it. I don't know, it's like it's 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.000 it's really me have done both at black belt. We've 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.080 been thrown kicks our whole fucking life. So it DJ Granton. 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.880 I guess it's more difficult than what I realized because 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:19.000 nobody ripped it off. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.960 Oh it's it's it's a thing of beauty. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.520 I mean it was scary to take, I'm not gonna lie, 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:30.680 but the execution, sure, it was a great, great finisher, 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.280 and I'm proud to say I was the only girl 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:34.040 who ever took it. 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.080 So you know, thank you. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.600 Top as Hell too took a top as Hell didn't 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.240 didn't complain about it or anything, you know. 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.160 But let's not forget that you're missing something because of 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:47.840 her as well. 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.800 She snipped something off of you, your hair. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:56.520 Your hair, you know what we did. That That was 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:00.640 my idea, okay, was because I was going I just 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:02.640 got my haircut and I was going bald, and I 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.120 told Balie, I'm not going to have a ball. We're 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.160 gonna I want to chake my head and he goes, no, no, 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.240 let's do something on TV with it, and I said, okay, soon, 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:12.840 and then we did it with you guys. Was in 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:13.800 a few weeks. 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:15.760 Yeah, And I always thought you were mad at me 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:17.400 because I cut your hair. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.479 I said, it wasn't my idea. 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.280 It was my idea. And because I got went to 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.760 get my haircut and I could see ball, but my 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.800 hair was stinning and I wasn't going to have the 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.680 horseshoe haircut. I just couldn't do that. I love it. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:35.240 Well. 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.600 Can I ask you a question? If you don't want 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.040 to tell the story, you don't have to. But I've 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:45.920 always heard over the years about how you you interjected 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:51.120 and saved the woman who was being attacked. And I 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.200 heard bits and pieces from different people, but I never 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.400 heard like the full story, and I think our listeners 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:00.120 would love to hear it from you. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:04.800 What do you call it? It's uh, most of it 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:09.240 is pretty accurate. But I was going to do to 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.480 a crackhouse to get some drugs and I stumbled down 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:13.680 to this on the way there. 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:15.600 Oh see, I didn't know that. 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.639 Okay, yes, because something that would just never brought it, 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.679 you know, so like, uh, yeah, I just stumbled at 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:27.560 it and you know, there's nothing and I got you 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.520 in the guy guy shot me in the neck and 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:30.440 in the shoulder. 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.640 So what you're walking to the you're walking to. 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:38.200 Get There's two guys on top of the girl and 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.840 I run up and shove them off and grab on 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.040 the one and the one I didn't grab as I 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.560 turned to see what he was doing, he shot me. 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.600 Oh my god, and h I ran in the shock 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.680 because uh, I wasn't get in the ambulance. I was 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:55.800 arguing with the cops and stuff because and I kept 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.080 telling him no, I just punched me. I'm fine, I 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.080 just got punched. But obviously I was in shock, which 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:02.920 is probably a good thing because I don't will know 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:07.560 nothing about it. Wow, it was hottest, fucked That's the 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.720 only thing I remember. It felt like my neck was 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.199 on fire and my shoulder and they had to replace 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.359 that whole bone and everything, you know, because it split 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:20.640 my shoulder. My neck was my neck is uh what? 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:25.240 They removed my C four and five and uh for 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.520 me from the information could the final cord goes? In 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:31.280 the shock, I couldn't move my left arm for like 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.240 six weeks, and they didn't know if I was going 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:34.080 to be able to move it. 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.880 So did this happen in the in the house that you. 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:43.359 Were eating outside? Right outside in a shitty neighborhood in 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:47.439 the Lando. I was out. I was headed up to 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.840 the house to get to net is what I was doing, Okay, 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.480 And you saw this and I just stumbled in on 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.080 it day just and I don't know, and i'd never 0:18:58.359 --> 0:18:59.960 in the Georgia. I don't know if it's the same 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:04.480 every state, but the victim's identity is very heavily protected. 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:09.840 Okay, So I've never been talked to the woman, and 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:11.240 so do you know. 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.879 If they ever, Like, no one touched her after you 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:15.040 got shot? Right, like. 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.720 The guy who shot me, I stabbed him. He went 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.040 to the hospital and then the other guy ran because 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.440 the cops. Somebody have called the cops already. 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:28.639 Oh my god. Well, you're a hero. 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.159 Not really. I was looking to get high and just 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:35.600 stumbled in on it. 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.200 When you interjected and saved somebody. Yes, that army ranger right. 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:42.920 There, you saved that girl, Perry. You're a hero. 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.719 I don't care why you were there, you were you 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:48.960 were there I believe in God. I think God put 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:53.160 you there that night for a reason, you know, And 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.240 and it's an unfortunate that you ended up getting shot, but. 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.600 You saved her, So you have to look at yourself 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.120 as a he You're a hero in my eyes. 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.520 Well, I just do what I have to do. 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:11.600 Yeah, very admirable. So, my god, I've heard little pieces, but. 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:16.880 Now I never heard. Yeah, the cops came and we 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:20.520 were I stabbed the guy, and I, like I said, 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:22.040 I didn't know where he shot me. I had not 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.840 like I was, and they had. They ended up beating 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:27.440 us both with knight sticks and everything, trying to get 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:28.639 us because we were fighting. 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:32.760 Oh my, oh you're you're still fighting? You got shot? 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:40.199 Yeah, Like my eyes watered. My eyes watered, and I 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:42.480 thought he punched me, and I thought, holy fun, that 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:48.280 was a pretty hard punch. And then because that's because 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.080 I just turned and he was there, you know, I 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.040 didn't see anything, and it was yeah, which is a 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.120 good thing, because I'm sure I would have panic dinner 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:57.120 and I never pannered. 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.560 Oh my god. Yeah, I'm ever heard. I've never heard 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:02.520 half of this stuff. 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.439 So the ambulance, I wasn't getting the ambulance because in 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:08.840 my mind, I got punched and I'm not going to 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:11.800 the hospital getting punched. I'm arguing with them, and once 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:15.240 I figured out that I wasn't the attacker. 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:18.439 You know, it wasn't there any blood coming out. I mean, 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:19.879 you didn't see any blood or anything. 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.639 Well too bullos, so there's blood coming out, but I 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:30.120 was in shock, so I just didn't like. I vaguely 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:33.280 remember fitting pieces of it right, and it's just been 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.600 registered in my mind. You know, I remember thinking over 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:38.560 and over again that I got punched. 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:45.359 You are one tough. Let me just say, oh my god, amazing. 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:49.119 Well I I and forgive me for bringing it up, 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:51.080