WEBVTT - Xtras: Arcane Episodes 108 and 109 with Rosie Knight 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:04.280 Today's episode contains spoilers for Arcane episodes eight and nine 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:06.840 and the entirety of season one, because that's the entirety 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:25.840 of season one. Hi, folks, I'm a Boo and I'm Aaron, 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.320 and welcome to x ray Vision Extras and x ray 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.519 Vision Series, where we dive deep into even more of 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:36.080 your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. Every superhero 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.800 team needs side quests, and our rotating panel of producers 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.600 and guest hosts will be suiting up to help Jason 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.639 and Rosie cover all of the amazing nerd content out. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.400 There, except we have a little bit of a reversal here. Instead, 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:53.040 today we have Rosie here to help us cover at 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.640 the end of Arcane Season one. Rosie, how are you doing? 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:58.680 I am so excited to be here. You guys have 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.880 been killing it with these extras episodes, and I'm just 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:03.520 so excited to be able to be a talk about 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.000 the last couple of episodes and also tease a little 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:06.960 bit about season two. 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.880 Oh yeah, because spoiler alert, you've seen the first. 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:12.280 I've seen the first episode. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.759 I got to watch it at Netflix on a massive 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.920 cinema screen and it was oh cool, unbelievable, so I'm 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:19.400 very excited to talk a little. 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:19.800 About that too. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:21.840 That would be exact a boo. How do you watch this? 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:23.600 What screen are you watching on? 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.800 I watch it on a mid range fifty five inch 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:31.600 Visio TV with a mid range Visio soundbar, and it's 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:32.440 still incredible. 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.040 I to watch it on like a five years ago 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:39.119 fifty five inch Visyo TV, but you know, it looks beautiful. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.520 It does, and it sounds spectacular too. Well, before we 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:46.360 get into today's recaps, Rosie, we wanted to ask you 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.720 a couple of questions just so the listeners can also 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.880 get caught up on what your relationship is with this 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.720 show and with League of Legends and with everything around it. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:55.880 So tell us. 0:01:56.080 --> 0:02:00.960 I am definitely a rke newby AKA. I didn't really 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.320 have any connection or understanding to what League of Legends 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.720 was other than the fact that I love video games 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.160 and I followed video game news and I knew that 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.320 it was like a very popular competitive video game. Also, 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.520 one year, when I was at LA Comic Con, which 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.880 they have at the Staples Center Akacrypto dot Com Arena 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.920 next to it, they were doing a huge League of 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:27.880 Legends events. You know, it was actually unconnected to Comic 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.359 Con incredibly, and I think it was actually they were 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:36.840 screening the people playing it competitively. Yeah, it was esports basically, 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.320 and I just I always thought that the designs were 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.880 really cool and it looked great, but it's not the 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.280 kind of game I played. So then when the show 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.440 came out, I was just blown away by the visuals 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.680 in the trailer, and I remember we were having a 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:53.520 lot of conversations like, oh, this feels like Spider Verse 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:55.519 level choices. 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.600 That was a Booze first comment. It was like m 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.239 the first time he watched was it the trailer? Was 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:02.040 it the first episode? 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.360 I forget when I watched the first episode. Yeah, I 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.239 had got the same feeling I did as watching Spider 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:08.079 Verse for the first time. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.720 Yeah, it feels that groundbreaking. 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:14.600 Yes, groundbreaking, the animation, the music, everything coming together in 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.000 a way that I felt like I really hadn't seen 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.120 in an animated TV show of this scale. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:24.480 Yeah, it's pretty incredible to see American animation made for 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:29.120 Netflix of this high caliber that doesn't ape what we 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:33.079 know of manga and anime, which have been doing these complex, 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.480 more adult storytelling on screen and off for a long time. 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.280 But the way they use music in this show, I 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:43.000 do think really makes it stand apart. I don't really 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.160 know any other show that uses music that way. It 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.040 almost feels like a musical to me, so that was 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:48.880 really striking. 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.480 And also, once I started to watch the show, I just. 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:55.920 Love like a star crossed relationship. I love some kids 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:57.760 that I can be like rooting for, like I want 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.440 them to be friends, like I need them to join 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.400 and come back together. And also like the lore of 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:07.480 this show is incredible, so I'm definitely still learning the law, 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.320 but every time I watch it, I just feel like 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:13.760 it's such an unbelievably well built world, and I absolutely 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.760 love that it's become one of Netflix's most popular shows 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.320 with people who've never played the game, right right, I 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:20.279 think that's huge. 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.559 Yeah, it's interesting you talk about like having star cross lovers, 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.760 because I actually think of this show other than Viyan Caitlin, 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.240 we don't have a ton of romance. I personally am 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:34.400 on the Jace Erasure train, so don't I don't recognize. 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.760 I think the Discord agrees with you that jace Erasia 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:38.880 is with pro jase Erasia. 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:42.560 But it's a lot of parent and child relationships and 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.599 we get We really get into that in these final 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.400 two episodes with Mel's mom coming, and we see like 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:53.960 this entirely different. We've had a lot of strong fathers, 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.920 I think, and strong being both a word for their 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:02.039 power as well as like their and I think Mel's 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.440 mother is strong, but not necessarily in a caring sense. 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:06.520 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.240 So I think this is like other than maybe like 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.680 you know, Last of Us or some other There are 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.440 definitely other TV shows that are focused on like a 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.760 parent and child relationship, but there's a lot in this 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:17.560 that I really see from that. 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.880 I think the familial aspect of this show is very interesting, 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.440 and I think it's why people connected so much with 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.680 the show, even though it's completely out there and it's 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.880 set in this world you might not understand anything about. Yeah, 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.520 but I think we all have fucked up relationships with 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:37.120 our families, and I think this show is very appealing 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.320 in that sense, especially because also you don't get a 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:45.240 lot of strong, caring male relationships in TV or film 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.320 at all. And it actually it's funny you bring up 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.400 The Last of Us because I think there is some 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.760 of that complexity that that season left us with is 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.960 in Kane. That idea of like, what would you do 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.000 for your child, what would you allow them to do, 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.240 would you support or be complicit in, or what would 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.520 you do to protect them? And I think those are 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.600 infinitely relatable questions. And I also just think the show 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.680 looks so good and I love the idea. For me, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.119 it makes me so excited to imagine that there's kids 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.280 out there who like this will be like their first 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.760 animated show, and that's going to make them just want 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.520 to be an animation, want to make animation, want to 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.960 watch animation, And I think that's amazing, especially in the 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.520 face of AI and everything that we're dealing with right now. 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:30.520 Couldn't agree more. 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.320 And I know the show's second season's not out yet, 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.520 but along the lines of like a beautifully animated show, 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:38.920 it's well known I think that one of my favorite 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.800 shows growing up was the X Men animated series. That's 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.320 what got me into comics and everything, and that of 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.799 course has a famous fall from Grace in its final 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:51.000 season where the animation budget is cut, they have drastically 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.440 different art styles for like the last six episodes or whatever. 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.680 I mean, we haven't seen all of season two, but 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.680 hopefully this just stays hot. The whole time. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.760 I also think that there's something very powerful and good 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:07.039 about finishing a show on your own terms or a story. 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:08.440 I was just going to bring that up. 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.520 Yeah, it's obviously this has been such a huge success 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.120 for Netflix. They could have said We're going to do 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.360 six seasons, but actually they said, we're going to do two. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.920 There will be more stories in this world, but let's 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.960 finish while we're on a high and hopefully my fingers 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.480 are crossed. That also means that the animators were able 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.640 to do it in like a more sustainable way, rather 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:31.120 than constantly being on crunch thinking about what's next. And 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:35.120 obviously we need that space for animators to breathe and 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.880 to be able to be creative to bring a show 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.160 like this to life, Like, especially in the finale, I 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.440 feel like, and we'll get into this, but like they 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:46.040 really pushed the boundaries of different styles of animation that 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.760 you can use together and that Spider verse element where 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.240 you feel like, oh, I'm watching something that has never 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:52.080 been done before. 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.520 Definitely, Okay, Rosie, one last question before we dive into 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.880 these final two recaps of the final two episodes. Thoughts 0:07:58.880 --> 0:07:59.840 on Imagine Dragons. 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.800 Look, I'm not I'm just gonna be honest. I'm not 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:07.560 a huge Imagine Dragons fan. But you know what, the 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.600 reason my voice sounds like this, and it sounded like 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.640 this on the podcast all week is I went to 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.680 the When We Were Young fest in Vegas and I 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.400 screamed my lungs out to like my Chemical Romance and 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.400 take your Mac Sunday, and they use. So I'm not 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.680 here to judge anyone's musical tastes, but I am a 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.640 little bit old for Imagine Dragons. But you know what, 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.800 my mom loves Imagine Dragons, my nephew loves Imagine Dragons, 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:31.680 and I do think that in the context of this show, 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.880 I feel like it does bring those big emotional beats. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.800 And I love the way they use music in this 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.079 show so much that it becomes like a part of. 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.160 The world, especially in these last two episodes too. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.160 All right, should we jump into episode eight? 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:48.560 Let's do Let's do it all right. 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.600 We open on a flashback to Mel's childhood in an 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.280 empty throne room with her mother. This is like the 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:58.280 end of a conquest, and two Noxi and guards come 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.880 in with a young female prisoner and Mel. This young 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.640 girl suggests they show her mercy, but her mother says, 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.600 you can't do that. You're being weak. This is the 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.480 time for you to show your strength. Here we are 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.440 again with strength, and for anyone who's a fan of 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.760 novelty T shirts, we almost get two wolves howling at 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:18.720 the moon, but instead she says, if you want to 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.040 last in this world, you must learn to be both 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:22.560 the fox and the wolf. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.640 Hmm. Now we cut back to the bridge that we 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:29.319 left off in the last episode. Among the wreckage, Silko 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:33.360 rushes forward when he finds Jinx's body. He's very obviously 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:37.240 concerned for his daughter's life here. Caitlin meanwhile opens up 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:41.360 the container that used to contain the gemstone, only to 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:45.080 learn that it's missing. Jink still has it. Violet and 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:49.480 Silko lockeyes from across the bridge as Violet watches Silko 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:53.040 carry her sister away in his arms. Later on, Jace 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:56.400 sees the aftermath of the destruction on this bridge and 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.760 loses his lunch and frankly, I can't blame him. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.520 It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad, I think. 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.280 Also a poignant scene because of the context of this episode. 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.120 In the next Jace, you don't know war is something 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.880 that Mel tells him in this episode later on, and 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.760 we see here he doesn't know war. This is perhaps 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.080 like the first dead body he's ever seen in his life, 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:18.360 and he loses his lunch over it, so we kind 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.560 of see that he's very inexperienced with this type of violence. 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:26.560 Later on, Violent at Caitlyn sneak into Caitlyn's house and 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:28.559 are caught by her parents. In a bit of a 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.920 rom calm moment, Caitlyn, while she's getting patched up by 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:35.720 her concerned father, convinces her mother, missus Kierman, who remember 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.920 is a member of the Council of Piltover, to give 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.079 her a chance to report to the council. She thinks 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.280 she can sway them and convince them to work something 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:46.680 out with the under City. 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.120 I think this is a really good moment and an 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.120 example of why this show is so great because you 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.080 mentioned it, but it's like a romcom moment. But it's 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.400 also again, who hasn't snuck into someone else's house and. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:58.600 Got on court by their parents. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.439 Even in this why old steampunk world, the writers see 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.760 these moments that add so much humanity, and I think 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.280 that is why when it comes to the Gemstones and 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.680 the outrageous steampunk weapons. The thing at the heart of 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.720 it is that you care about these characters, and also 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.079 there's moments when you remember kind of how young they are. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:22.199 Yeah, from one concerned father to another. Soilco bringing Jinks 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:26.360 to Singed just in agony, and he wants Sings to 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.199 try to save her, and sins just like, I can 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.720 do this, but this is going to be a very 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.680 demanding process. And he says, sometimes death is a mercy. 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.480 Are you prepared to lose her? And Singed comes up 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:42.480 behind Soco gives them the old whatever knockout thing he 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:46.920 has in a vile He's like, this is for your 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.760 own sake. Yeah, you don't want to see this, right, Yeah, 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.160 And Singe once had a daughter of his own, he says, 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.360 and he knows how difficult this is going to be. 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:57.400 Ah little foreshadowing there. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.040 I loved that so much because the show continues to 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.559 do something that is so brilliant. The villains are also 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.920 tragic characters that the show somehow makes you feel for. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:12.600 Silko during this entire scene is genuinely concerned for Jinks, 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.840 and it's very endearing. We see the fatherly side of 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.760 Silko and not just the under city mobster side of 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.319 Silka that we've seen all season, and then on the 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.800 flip side, Cinch saying I used to have a daughter. 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.320 I know how difficult a moment like this can be 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.199 and you don't want to see what's going to happen next, 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.840 speaks volumes to his character and it makes me wonder, like, what, Cinch, 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.520 what is his backstory? In my head canon? It makes 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.520 me think was there a world in which Singeed had 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.080 a daughter that succumbed to some sort of disease that 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.560 he was never able to cure and thus his obsession 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.840 we see throughout this season with keeping things alive and 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.160 pushing science forward at all costs. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.640 That's a great read also as well. 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.120 It really reminds me of the conversation around the Penguin 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.160 at the moment, which is this idea of like, the 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.720 Penguin doesn't have a good hero for you to root for. 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:06.199 The Penguin just has multiple different, complicated villains, but they. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.120 Manage to make you care about them. 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.559 And I think that this is something that this show 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.200 has done super well. And you kind of have to 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.600 because obviously there is a Jinx fandom, and if there's 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.959 always been a fandom for the darker side or the resistance, 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.079 the rebellion, whichever way you see them. And I think 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.320 they do such a good job of not just being like, 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.760 this is why this person is, why they are how 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.000 they are. It's like, you know, in Shrek, what do 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.520 they say is like peeling an onion. You know, there's 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.760 different layers. I feel like they actually do a really 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:36.520 good job. 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.600 I think the onion metaphor is actually originally from Shrek 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:41.800 and only from Shrek. 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.840 I had a Shrek joke I was gonna put in later, 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:47.479 like the other option. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.000 Is like parfe, you're just like different layers, you know. 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:54.080 But I do think that is really well done in 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.560 this show, where someone that you think you already know 0:13:56.679 --> 0:14:01.280 all of their motivations penultimate episode and suddenly it's like boom, 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.480 you realize that actually everyone and you know it's that thing. 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.480 Every single person is a universe. Every single person has 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.160 is the hero of their own story. Every single person 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.240 has five hundred other people that have impacted their lives 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.000 or that they will come into contact with, and we 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.160 can forget that, but this show doesn't let us forget it. 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.120 And I think that's part of why it's so well 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.920 received because the story and the writing keeps peppering in 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.800 these little surprises and bits of humanity that make the 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.600 conflict at the center like way more complicated. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.680 Yeah, I mean, one of the things I mentioned last 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.800 episode when we were discussing the Ken bearons, I wished 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.760 we had had more time spent with Silko's CD underworld 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:44.720 connections and his role as this criminal mastermind, because instead 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.960 most of Silko's scenes are with Jinks and his love 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.520 and care for Jinks, to the point that one of 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.120 my questions later on that I'll bring up is kind 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.800 of about the villains and the show. And again we're 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.840 basing the show off of video game, where the villains 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:02.160 are characters you could play us. So there's gonna be 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.360 some people in the fandom who are like, Singed is 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:08.440 my main character mostly so I want Singe to have 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.280 good screen time and a good storyline, et cetera. So 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.640 I could totally see why that might also have led 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.240 them from a story perspective to want to include these 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.800 characters in as favorable of a light as possible. 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.880 That's a good point. Returning to our recap. In the 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:28.280 next scene, Finn, the incredibly well dressed Finn, stepping right 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.280 out of Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven and into this universe, 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.680 pays a visit to Sivika, and he is here to 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:40.760 try and play to her dissatisfaction with Silko and the 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:45.120 obvious dedication that Silko has towards Jinks. He has been 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.840 very forgiving of many of Jinx's faults all season, and 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.960 the starting to wear a thin on the rest of 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.240 his partners down here in the under City. Back at Piltover, 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.800 Mel's mother and Bessa arrives and breaks the news to 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:02.320 Melt that her brother had died. He crossed the wrong 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.240 person and ended up on the wrong side of a sword, seemingly, 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:10.120 and Invessa is here to check in about hex Tech weapons. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.280 She's been hearing some rumors. She's here to figure out 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.960 what's going on and why hex Tech is being used 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.240 for weaponry and whether or not it might be useful 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.200 to her personally, and also maybe to like say I 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:22.040 to Mel or whatever. 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.200 Anyway, that's definitely secondary. 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.000 This is definitely a mom who shows up when she 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:27.760 needs something. 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.080 She's like, so, yeah, she's there to taste the local cuisine. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:32.720 I think that's very like. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.840 She's just like so your brother died, So now I 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.760 guess I have to just put up with you. 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:39.840 You're the leftover. 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.800 I did want to bring up a bit of a 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.920 confusing moment here in this exchange between Mel and her 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.480 mother and Vessa clearly is like Hextech is going to 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.720 be used for weapons. Weapons can't be unmade, They're always used, 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:55.760 is a line that she says to Mel at some point, 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.280 and Mel is seemingly pushing back. She's like, no, no, no, Hextech. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.560 I only backed Jas and Hextech to help Hiltover and 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.040 the citizens of the city. I'm not pro making weapons, 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.760 but I feel like episode or two ago she was like, hey, Jase, 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:12.400 maybe we should make weapons from x Tech. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:14.440 There's a lot of maybe. 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.439 It's like maybe she just can't help but want to 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.920 contradict her mom and have kind of argument with them. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.800 I think it's less to do with what she really believes, 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:25.679 is more about what she wants to like reveal. 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.679 I think you're spot on. That was my sort of 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.520 take on it too, because otherwise it's like a huge 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.360 flip flop of the character motivations. But I think this 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.240 is very much just a reaction to her mother to 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:36.959 fight against it. 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.680 And I think mel was most concerned with making weapons 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.560 because she could make money off it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.320 I don't know. She was necessarily like, oh, if my 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.040 mom's here, do I have to give her the family discount? 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.840 And then suddenly like, yeah, cuts into my profits a 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.040 little bit. I don't know. Right, we get I apologize 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.280 that Joelle is not here, but Caitlin and Violet share 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:01.040 a moment on the bed. Violet remembers her childhood with Powder, 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.040 beautiful yin Yang imagery here with the two of them 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:08.080 mirroring each other, and Violet does this great little monologue 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.359 talking about when they were younger, and she was like, 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.119 we would play monsters and we would each try to 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.560 scare the other one, and we'd be bigger and bigger 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.880 monsters to scare each other. And if my monsters got 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:22.000 too scary for Powder, I would tell her that I'd 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.760 chase them away. I would protect her, and I'd say, 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:26.600 no monster is going to get you as long as 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.480 I'm here, And she says, but then a real monster 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.600 showed up and I just ran away. And we do 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:36.760 get a very intimate soft stroke on the cheek and 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:40.400 that's it, and that's it, so so Jace and mel 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:45.600 get like fireworks over cutting blood and hextech mixing when 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.200 they get intimate, and Caylen and Violet get a single 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:50.760 stroke on the cheek. 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.960 That gal pals Aaron, Yeah, you don't know. 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.760 After this, they went and played the girlfriend's board game. 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:06.520 Sleepover, Sleepover, hunk Phone or whatever. I think part of 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.680 the reason that I am so affected by this show 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:13.399 is like, I just love my sister so much, my 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.600 sister Amber, and like, when I watch this show, I 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.919 find this so much more tragic than any romance. You know, 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.959 those kind of stories have been done so many times, 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:26.000 but I think seeing this story of someone that you're 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.560 so connected to, that you have this bond with that 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.520 you protected each other, and then having as a viewer 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.720 to like imagine how it feels when that's torn away, 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.720 that definitely gets me. I think they do such a 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.040 good job with it. But also I'm like, no, be friends, 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:41.760 be friends. I know, I don't want to see this 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.160 like you're okay with each other now, so your sisters 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:45.119 be friends. 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:46.080 Don't do it, right. 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:48.280 I think that's what all of us are hoping for 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.679 watching this show, and the entertaining part of the tragic 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:53.280 part is watching that not happen. 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:56.239 I think that's another thing that's pretty amazing is when 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:57.760 you have a show where you know what's going to 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:01.199 happen because you understand even vague what the lore of 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.240 the game is, or the story or the comic book 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.320