Speaker 1: Today's episode contains spoilers for Arcane episodes eight and nine
Speaker 1: and the entirety of season one, because that's the entirety
Speaker 1: of season one. Hi, folks, I'm a Boo and I'm Aaron,
Speaker 1: and welcome to x ray Vision Extras and x ray
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Speaker 2: There, except we have a little bit of a reversal here. Instead,
Speaker 2: today we have Rosie here to help us cover at
Speaker 2: the end of Arcane Season one. Rosie, how are you doing?
Speaker 3: I am so excited to be here. You guys have
Speaker 3: been killing it with these extras episodes, and I'm just
Speaker 3: so excited to be able to be a talk about
Speaker 3: the last couple of episodes and also tease a little
Speaker 3: bit about season two.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because spoiler alert, you've seen the first.
Speaker 4: I've seen the first episode.
Speaker 3: I got to watch it at Netflix on a massive
Speaker 3: cinema screen and it was oh cool, unbelievable, so I'm
Speaker 3: very excited to talk a little.
Speaker 4: About that too.
Speaker 2: That would be exact a boo. How do you watch this?
Speaker 2: What screen are you watching on?
Speaker 1: I watch it on a mid range fifty five inch
Speaker 1: Visio TV with a mid range Visio soundbar, and it's
Speaker 1: still incredible.
Speaker 3: I to watch it on like a five years ago
Speaker 3: fifty five inch Visyo TV, but you know, it looks beautiful.
Speaker 1: It does, and it sounds spectacular too. Well, before we
Speaker 1: get into today's recaps, Rosie, we wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: a couple of questions just so the listeners can also
Speaker 1: get caught up on what your relationship is with this
Speaker 1: show and with League of Legends and with everything around it.
Speaker 1: So tell us.
Speaker 3: I am definitely a rke newby AKA. I didn't really
Speaker 3: have any connection or understanding to what League of Legends
Speaker 3: was other than the fact that I love video games
Speaker 3: and I followed video game news and I knew that
Speaker 3: it was like a very popular competitive video game. Also,
Speaker 3: one year, when I was at LA Comic Con, which
Speaker 3: they have at the Staples Center Akacrypto dot Com Arena
Speaker 3: next to it, they were doing a huge League of
Speaker 3: Legends events. You know, it was actually unconnected to Comic
Speaker 3: Con incredibly, and I think it was actually they were
Speaker 3: screening the people playing it competitively. Yeah, it was esports basically,
Speaker 3: and I just I always thought that the designs were
Speaker 3: really cool and it looked great, but it's not the
Speaker 3: kind of game I played. So then when the show
Speaker 3: came out, I was just blown away by the visuals
Speaker 3: in the trailer, and I remember we were having a
Speaker 3: lot of conversations like, oh, this feels like Spider Verse
Speaker 3: level choices.
Speaker 2: That was a Booze first comment. It was like m
Speaker 2: the first time he watched was it the trailer? Was
Speaker 2: it the first episode?
Speaker 1: I forget when I watched the first episode. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: had got the same feeling I did as watching Spider
Speaker 1: Verse for the first time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels that groundbreaking.
Speaker 1: Yes, groundbreaking, the animation, the music, everything coming together in
Speaker 1: a way that I felt like I really hadn't seen
Speaker 1: in an animated TV show of this scale.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty incredible to see American animation made for
Speaker 3: Netflix of this high caliber that doesn't ape what we
Speaker 3: know of manga and anime, which have been doing these complex,
Speaker 3: more adult storytelling on screen and off for a long time.
Speaker 3: But the way they use music in this show, I
Speaker 3: do think really makes it stand apart. I don't really
Speaker 3: know any other show that uses music that way. It
Speaker 3: almost feels like a musical to me, so that was
Speaker 3: really striking.
Speaker 4: And also, once I started to watch the show, I just.
Speaker 3: Love like a star crossed relationship. I love some kids
Speaker 3: that I can be like rooting for, like I want
Speaker 3: them to be friends, like I need them to join
Speaker 3: and come back together. And also like the lore of
Speaker 3: this show is incredible, so I'm definitely still learning the law,
Speaker 3: but every time I watch it, I just feel like
Speaker 3: it's such an unbelievably well built world, and I absolutely
Speaker 3: love that it's become one of Netflix's most popular shows
Speaker 3: with people who've never played the game, right right, I
Speaker 3: think that's huge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting you talk about like having star cross lovers,
Speaker 2: because I actually think of this show other than Viyan Caitlin,
Speaker 2: we don't have a ton of romance. I personally am
Speaker 2: on the Jace Erasure train, so don't I don't recognize.
Speaker 3: I think the Discord agrees with you that jace Erasia
Speaker 3: is with pro jase Erasia.
Speaker 2: But it's a lot of parent and child relationships and
Speaker 2: we get We really get into that in these final
Speaker 2: two episodes with Mel's mom coming, and we see like
Speaker 2: this entirely different. We've had a lot of strong fathers,
Speaker 2: I think, and strong being both a word for their
Speaker 2: power as well as like their and I think Mel's
Speaker 2: mother is strong, but not necessarily in a caring sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: So I think this is like other than maybe like
Speaker 2: you know, Last of Us or some other There are
Speaker 2: definitely other TV shows that are focused on like a
Speaker 2: parent and child relationship, but there's a lot in this
Speaker 2: that I really see from that.
Speaker 3: I think the familial aspect of this show is very interesting,
Speaker 3: and I think it's why people connected so much with
Speaker 3: the show, even though it's completely out there and it's
Speaker 3: set in this world you might not understand anything about. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I think we all have fucked up relationships with
Speaker 3: our families, and I think this show is very appealing
Speaker 3: in that sense, especially because also you don't get a
Speaker 3: lot of strong, caring male relationships in TV or film
Speaker 3: at all. And it actually it's funny you bring up
Speaker 3: The Last of Us because I think there is some
Speaker 3: of that complexity that that season left us with is
Speaker 3: in Kane. That idea of like, what would you do
Speaker 3: for your child, what would you allow them to do,
Speaker 3: would you support or be complicit in, or what would
Speaker 3: you do to protect them? And I think those are
Speaker 3: infinitely relatable questions. And I also just think the show
Speaker 3: looks so good and I love the idea. For me,
Speaker 3: it makes me so excited to imagine that there's kids
Speaker 3: out there who like this will be like their first
Speaker 3: animated show, and that's going to make them just want
Speaker 3: to be an animation, want to make animation, want to
Speaker 3: watch animation, And I think that's amazing, especially in the
Speaker 3: face of AI and everything that we're dealing with right now.
Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2: And I know the show's second season's not out yet,
Speaker 2: but along the lines of like a beautifully animated show,
Speaker 2: it's well known I think that one of my favorite
Speaker 2: shows growing up was the X Men animated series. That's
Speaker 2: what got me into comics and everything, and that of
Speaker 2: course has a famous fall from Grace in its final
Speaker 2: season where the animation budget is cut, they have drastically
Speaker 2: different art styles for like the last six episodes or whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't seen all of season two, but
Speaker 2: hopefully this just stays hot. The whole time.
Speaker 3: I also think that there's something very powerful and good
Speaker 3: about finishing a show on your own terms or a story.
Speaker 1: I was just going to bring that up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's obviously this has been such a huge success
Speaker 3: for Netflix. They could have said We're going to do
Speaker 3: six seasons, but actually they said, we're going to do two.
Speaker 3: There will be more stories in this world, but let's
Speaker 3: finish while we're on a high and hopefully my fingers
Speaker 3: are crossed. That also means that the animators were able
Speaker 3: to do it in like a more sustainable way, rather
Speaker 3: than constantly being on crunch thinking about what's next. And
Speaker 3: obviously we need that space for animators to breathe and
Speaker 3: to be able to be creative to bring a show
Speaker 3: like this to life, Like, especially in the finale, I
Speaker 3: feel like, and we'll get into this, but like they
Speaker 3: really pushed the boundaries of different styles of animation that
Speaker 3: you can use together and that Spider verse element where
Speaker 3: you feel like, oh, I'm watching something that has never
Speaker 3: been done before.
Speaker 1: Definitely, Okay, Rosie, one last question before we dive into
Speaker 1: these final two recaps of the final two episodes. Thoughts
Speaker 1: on Imagine Dragons.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm not I'm just gonna be honest. I'm not
Speaker 3: a huge Imagine Dragons fan. But you know what, the
Speaker 3: reason my voice sounds like this, and it sounded like
Speaker 3: this on the podcast all week is I went to
Speaker 3: the When We Were Young fest in Vegas and I
Speaker 3: screamed my lungs out to like my Chemical Romance and
Speaker 3: take your Mac Sunday, and they use. So I'm not
Speaker 3: here to judge anyone's musical tastes, but I am a
Speaker 3: little bit old for Imagine Dragons. But you know what,
Speaker 3: my mom loves Imagine Dragons, my nephew loves Imagine Dragons,
Speaker 3: and I do think that in the context of this show,
Speaker 3: I feel like it does bring those big emotional beats.
Speaker 3: And I love the way they use music in this
Speaker 3: show so much that it becomes like a part of.
Speaker 1: The world, especially in these last two episodes too.
Speaker 2: All right, should we jump into episode eight?
Speaker 1: Let's do Let's do it all right.
Speaker 2: We open on a flashback to Mel's childhood in an
Speaker 2: empty throne room with her mother. This is like the
Speaker 2: end of a conquest, and two Noxi and guards come
Speaker 2: in with a young female prisoner and Mel. This young
Speaker 2: girl suggests they show her mercy, but her mother says,
Speaker 2: you can't do that. You're being weak. This is the
Speaker 2: time for you to show your strength. Here we are
Speaker 2: again with strength, and for anyone who's a fan of
Speaker 2: novelty T shirts, we almost get two wolves howling at
Speaker 2: the moon, but instead she says, if you want to
Speaker 2: last in this world, you must learn to be both
Speaker 2: the fox and the wolf.
Speaker 1: Hmm. Now we cut back to the bridge that we
Speaker 1: left off in the last episode. Among the wreckage, Silko
Speaker 1: rushes forward when he finds Jinx's body. He's very obviously
Speaker 1: concerned for his daughter's life here. Caitlin meanwhile opens up
Speaker 1: the container that used to contain the gemstone, only to
Speaker 1: learn that it's missing. Jink still has it. Violet and
Speaker 1: Silko lockeyes from across the bridge as Violet watches Silko
Speaker 1: carry her sister away in his arms. Later on, Jace
Speaker 1: sees the aftermath of the destruction on this bridge and
Speaker 1: loses his lunch and frankly, I can't blame him.
Speaker 3: It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad, I think.
Speaker 1: Also a poignant scene because of the context of this episode.
Speaker 1: In the next Jace, you don't know war is something
Speaker 1: that Mel tells him in this episode later on, and
Speaker 1: we see here he doesn't know war. This is perhaps
Speaker 1: like the first dead body he's ever seen in his life,
Speaker 1: and he loses his lunch over it, so we kind
Speaker 1: of see that he's very inexperienced with this type of violence.
Speaker 1: Later on, Violent at Caitlyn sneak into Caitlyn's house and
Speaker 1: are caught by her parents. In a bit of a
Speaker 1: rom calm moment, Caitlyn, while she's getting patched up by
Speaker 1: her concerned father, convinces her mother, missus Kierman, who remember
Speaker 1: is a member of the Council of Piltover, to give
Speaker 1: her a chance to report to the council. She thinks
Speaker 1: she can sway them and convince them to work something
Speaker 1: out with the under City.
Speaker 3: I think this is a really good moment and an
Speaker 3: example of why this show is so great because you
Speaker 3: mentioned it, but it's like a romcom moment. But it's
Speaker 3: also again, who hasn't snuck into someone else's house and.
Speaker 4: Got on court by their parents.
Speaker 3: Even in this why old steampunk world, the writers see
Speaker 3: these moments that add so much humanity, and I think
Speaker 3: that is why when it comes to the Gemstones and
Speaker 3: the outrageous steampunk weapons. The thing at the heart of
Speaker 3: it is that you care about these characters, and also
Speaker 3: there's moments when you remember kind of how young they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, from one concerned father to another. Soilco bringing Jinks
Speaker 2: to Singed just in agony, and he wants Sings to
Speaker 2: try to save her, and sins just like, I can
Speaker 2: do this, but this is going to be a very
Speaker 2: demanding process. And he says, sometimes death is a mercy.
Speaker 2: Are you prepared to lose her? And Singed comes up
Speaker 2: behind Soco gives them the old whatever knockout thing he
Speaker 2: has in a vile He's like, this is for your
Speaker 2: own sake. Yeah, you don't want to see this, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And Singe once had a daughter of his own, he says,
Speaker 2: and he knows how difficult this is going to be.
Speaker 2: Ah little foreshadowing there.
Speaker 1: I loved that so much because the show continues to
Speaker 1: do something that is so brilliant. The villains are also
Speaker 1: tragic characters that the show somehow makes you feel for.
Speaker 1: Silko during this entire scene is genuinely concerned for Jinks,
Speaker 1: and it's very endearing. We see the fatherly side of
Speaker 1: Silko and not just the under city mobster side of
Speaker 1: Silka that we've seen all season, and then on the
Speaker 1: flip side, Cinch saying I used to have a daughter.
Speaker 1: I know how difficult a moment like this can be
Speaker 1: and you don't want to see what's going to happen next,
Speaker 1: speaks volumes to his character and it makes me wonder, like, what, Cinch,
Speaker 1: what is his backstory? In my head canon? It makes
Speaker 1: me think was there a world in which Singeed had
Speaker 1: a daughter that succumbed to some sort of disease that
Speaker 1: he was never able to cure and thus his obsession
Speaker 1: we see throughout this season with keeping things alive and
Speaker 1: pushing science forward at all costs.
Speaker 4: That's a great read also as well.
Speaker 3: It really reminds me of the conversation around the Penguin
Speaker 3: at the moment, which is this idea of like, the
Speaker 3: Penguin doesn't have a good hero for you to root for.
Speaker 3: The Penguin just has multiple different, complicated villains, but they.
Speaker 4: Manage to make you care about them.
Speaker 3: And I think that this is something that this show
Speaker 3: has done super well. And you kind of have to
Speaker 3: because obviously there is a Jinx fandom, and if there's
Speaker 3: always been a fandom for the darker side or the resistance,
Speaker 3: the rebellion, whichever way you see them. And I think
Speaker 3: they do such a good job of not just being like,
Speaker 3: this is why this person is, why they are how
Speaker 3: they are. It's like, you know, in Shrek, what do
Speaker 3: they say is like peeling an onion. You know, there's
Speaker 3: different layers. I feel like they actually do a really
Speaker 3: good job.
Speaker 1: I think the onion metaphor is actually originally from Shrek
Speaker 1: and only from Shrek.
Speaker 2: I had a Shrek joke I was gonna put in later,
Speaker 2: like the other option.
Speaker 4: Is like parfe, you're just like different layers, you know.
Speaker 3: But I do think that is really well done in
Speaker 3: this show, where someone that you think you already know
Speaker 3: all of their motivations penultimate episode and suddenly it's like boom,
Speaker 3: you realize that actually everyone and you know it's that thing.
Speaker 3: Every single person is a universe. Every single person has
Speaker 3: is the hero of their own story. Every single person
Speaker 3: has five hundred other people that have impacted their lives
Speaker 3: or that they will come into contact with, and we
Speaker 3: can forget that, but this show doesn't let us forget it.
Speaker 3: And I think that's part of why it's so well
Speaker 3: received because the story and the writing keeps peppering in
Speaker 3: these little surprises and bits of humanity that make the
Speaker 3: conflict at the center like way more complicated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, one of the things I mentioned last
Speaker 2: episode when we were discussing the Ken bearons, I wished
Speaker 2: we had had more time spent with Silko's CD underworld
Speaker 2: connections and his role as this criminal mastermind, because instead
Speaker 2: most of Silko's scenes are with Jinks and his love
Speaker 2: and care for Jinks, to the point that one of
Speaker 2: my questions later on that I'll bring up is kind
Speaker 2: of about the villains and the show. And again we're
Speaker 2: basing the show off of video game, where the villains
Speaker 2: are characters you could play us. So there's gonna be
Speaker 2: some people in the fandom who are like, Singed is
Speaker 2: my main character mostly so I want Singe to have
Speaker 2: good screen time and a good storyline, et cetera. So
Speaker 2: I could totally see why that might also have led
Speaker 2: them from a story perspective to want to include these
Speaker 2: characters in as favorable of a light as possible.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Returning to our recap. In the
Speaker 1: next scene, Finn, the incredibly well dressed Finn, stepping right
Speaker 1: out of Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven and into this universe,
Speaker 1: pays a visit to Sivika, and he is here to
Speaker 1: try and play to her dissatisfaction with Silko and the
Speaker 1: obvious dedication that Silko has towards Jinks. He has been
Speaker 1: very forgiving of many of Jinx's faults all season, and
Speaker 1: the starting to wear a thin on the rest of
Speaker 1: his partners down here in the under City. Back at Piltover,
Speaker 1: Mel's mother and Bessa arrives and breaks the news to
Speaker 1: Melt that her brother had died. He crossed the wrong
Speaker 1: person and ended up on the wrong side of a sword, seemingly,
Speaker 1: and Invessa is here to check in about hex Tech weapons.
Speaker 1: She's been hearing some rumors. She's here to figure out
Speaker 1: what's going on and why hex Tech is being used
Speaker 1: for weaponry and whether or not it might be useful
Speaker 1: to her personally, and also maybe to like say I
Speaker 1: to Mel or whatever.
Speaker 4: Anyway, that's definitely secondary.
Speaker 3: This is definitely a mom who shows up when she
Speaker 3: needs something.
Speaker 2: She's like, so, yeah, she's there to taste the local cuisine.
Speaker 2: I think that's very like.
Speaker 3: She's just like so your brother died, So now I
Speaker 3: guess I have to just put up with you.
Speaker 4: You're the leftover.
Speaker 1: I did want to bring up a bit of a
Speaker 1: confusing moment here in this exchange between Mel and her
Speaker 1: mother and Vessa clearly is like Hextech is going to
Speaker 1: be used for weapons. Weapons can't be unmade, They're always used,
Speaker 1: is a line that she says to Mel at some point,
Speaker 1: and Mel is seemingly pushing back. She's like, no, no, no, Hextech.
Speaker 1: I only backed Jas and Hextech to help Hiltover and
Speaker 1: the citizens of the city. I'm not pro making weapons,
Speaker 1: but I feel like episode or two ago she was like, hey, Jase,
Speaker 1: maybe we should make weapons from x Tech.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of maybe.
Speaker 3: It's like maybe she just can't help but want to
Speaker 3: contradict her mom and have kind of argument with them.
Speaker 3: I think it's less to do with what she really believes,
Speaker 3: is more about what she wants to like reveal.
Speaker 1: I think you're spot on. That was my sort of
Speaker 1: take on it too, because otherwise it's like a huge
Speaker 1: flip flop of the character motivations. But I think this
Speaker 1: is very much just a reaction to her mother to
Speaker 1: fight against it.
Speaker 2: And I think mel was most concerned with making weapons
Speaker 2: because she could make money off it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. She was necessarily like, oh, if my
Speaker 2: mom's here, do I have to give her the family discount?
Speaker 2: And then suddenly like, yeah, cuts into my profits a
Speaker 2: little bit. I don't know. Right, we get I apologize
Speaker 2: that Joelle is not here, but Caitlin and Violet share
Speaker 2: a moment on the bed. Violet remembers her childhood with Powder,
Speaker 2: beautiful yin Yang imagery here with the two of them
Speaker 2: mirroring each other, and Violet does this great little monologue
Speaker 2: talking about when they were younger, and she was like,
Speaker 2: we would play monsters and we would each try to
Speaker 2: scare the other one, and we'd be bigger and bigger
Speaker 2: monsters to scare each other. And if my monsters got
Speaker 2: too scary for Powder, I would tell her that I'd
Speaker 2: chase them away. I would protect her, and I'd say,
Speaker 2: no monster is going to get you as long as
Speaker 2: I'm here, And she says, but then a real monster
Speaker 2: showed up and I just ran away. And we do
Speaker 2: get a very intimate soft stroke on the cheek and
Speaker 2: that's it, and that's it, so so Jace and mel
Speaker 2: get like fireworks over cutting blood and hextech mixing when
Speaker 2: they get intimate, and Caylen and Violet get a single
Speaker 2: stroke on the cheek.
Speaker 3: That gal pals Aaron, Yeah, you don't know.
Speaker 2: After this, they went and played the girlfriend's board game.
Speaker 3: Sleepover, Sleepover, hunk Phone or whatever. I think part of
Speaker 3: the reason that I am so affected by this show
Speaker 3: is like, I just love my sister so much, my
Speaker 3: sister Amber, and like, when I watch this show, I
Speaker 3: find this so much more tragic than any romance. You know,
Speaker 3: those kind of stories have been done so many times,
Speaker 3: but I think seeing this story of someone that you're
Speaker 3: so connected to, that you have this bond with that
Speaker 3: you protected each other, and then having as a viewer
Speaker 3: to like imagine how it feels when that's torn away,
Speaker 3: that definitely gets me. I think they do such a
Speaker 3: good job with it. But also I'm like, no, be friends,
Speaker 3: be friends. I know, I don't want to see this
Speaker 3: like you're okay with each other now, so your sisters
Speaker 3: be friends.
Speaker 4: Don't do it, right.
Speaker 1: I think that's what all of us are hoping for
Speaker 1: watching this show, and the entertaining part of the tragic
Speaker 1: part is watching that not happen.
Speaker 3: I think that's another thing that's pretty amazing is when
Speaker 3: you have a show where you know what's going to
Speaker 3: happen because you understand even vague what the lore of
Speaker 3: the game is, or the story or the comic book
Speaker 3: or Romeo and Juliet, for example, Bas Lemon's Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 4: At the end of that movie.
Speaker 3: I've seen it probably one hundred times, but there's a
Speaker 3: second where I always just wish, as hard as I
Speaker 3: can that they'll see each other wake up. I think
Speaker 3: that is the sign of a really fantastically told story.
Speaker 3: So like, we're watching this and we're all rooting for that,
Speaker 3: but we know that that's never going to be that
Speaker 3: simple for Ry and Jinks, you know. And I think
Speaker 3: that the fact that we can still root for it
Speaker 3: even knowing the outcome is just a really big compliment
Speaker 3: how good the show is.
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm a huge musical theater person, and one of my
Speaker 2: favorite shows is Hades Town. Oh yeah, of course is
Speaker 2: Retelling of Orpheus and Youriticy And there was an interview
Speaker 2: where they're talking about Anias Mitchell, who wrote it, was
Speaker 2: talking about we know how this ends and there's still
Speaker 2: that moment when Orpheus is about to turn around that
Speaker 2: you think maybe he won't, won't this, Maybe he'll get
Speaker 2: and we'll do it, And then it starts over again,
Speaker 2: and it's just like, what a heartbreaking thing, because you
Speaker 2: know it's going to happen, but you've convinced yourself that
Speaker 2: maybe it won't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it won't.
Speaker 1: Well, we move on from that very touching and heartfelt
Speaker 1: scene between Caitlin and v to Jinx having the worst
Speaker 1: night of her life. She's having shimmer pumped into her
Speaker 1: veins by Singed. Singed is injecting her over and over again,
Speaker 1: and throughout it all she is hallucinating images of Violet
Speaker 1: and Caitlyn taunting her. At one point she mistakes Singed
Speaker 1: for Caitlin. This is a horrible experience, clearly for Jinks.
Speaker 1: We then cut to a little bit later. Silko wakes up,
Speaker 1: the drugs wear off. He rushes to the operating table
Speaker 1: and he sees blood everywhere, and he confronts Singed with
Speaker 1: a blade. What did you do to her? And Sin says,
Speaker 1: I saved your life. From there we join We joined
Speaker 1: our guy Heimerdinger. What is he doing? What's he doing
Speaker 1: this is the most confounding part of these last two
Speaker 1: episodes for me. Heimerdinger is wandering through the under City.
Speaker 1: He is shocked to find it lawless and the citizen's unhappy.
Speaker 3: Really, I'm like, bro, just listen to any one person.
Speaker 3: Just just have a Conbob, all right.
Speaker 2: This is a little able us here. Heimerdinger is incredibly short,
Speaker 2: his legs are very small. It takes him a lot
Speaker 2: longer to get to the under City, and we've seen
Speaker 2: how much Parkour went into getting down there, So I
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm going to give him a break because
Speaker 2: he's got that mustache.
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe he could have had some other
Speaker 3: people going down there for him, bringing up, you know,
Speaker 3: information and kind of messengers. I don't think he's doing
Speaker 3: his due diligence.
Speaker 4: If this is like a surprise to.
Speaker 1: Him, Yes, absolutely agreed, especially considering you're the father of
Speaker 1: Peltover founded this city. I'm saying, you don't know what
Speaker 1: the how the other half is living. You've never crossed
Speaker 1: the bridge. It's absolutely wild to me. But he is
Speaker 1: shocked by this experience. He even meets this young girl
Speaker 1: who gives him some gears and spare parts that she found.
Speaker 1: He turns it into a cute little top for her
Speaker 1: before her mother rushes her away. Don't talk to strangers
Speaker 1: in the under City, clearly. Heimer Dinger then stumbles upon
Speaker 1: a firelight board one of the hoverboards, and it turns
Speaker 1: out it's Echoes. Echo has been hiding underneath the bridge
Speaker 1: after the explosion. He's injured, he's sprained his ankle. He's
Speaker 1: having a tough time figuring out how he's going to
Speaker 1: get back home, and so heimer Dinger and Echo team up.
Speaker 1: Himerdinger's going to hope that go get home.
Speaker 2: I have no good transition to this because we just
Speaker 2: went in this incredible scene in the under City, and
Speaker 2: now we go to am Bessa spread Eagle in the
Speaker 2: spa with her tasty tree behind her, very witcher of her, Yes,
Speaker 2: oh my god, yes, very. She's also she is the
Speaker 2: most Garald have all the characters in this show? Yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: definitely Garalt Gerald, Gerald, Gerald, Do.
Speaker 1: We all three of us say it three different ways?
Speaker 4: How do you say it?
Speaker 1: Gerald? Of Rivia?
Speaker 2: I thought it was Garl? Yeah, what did I say?
Speaker 1: You said?
Speaker 2: Garlt? Stay tuned for an extra's episode where we all
Speaker 2: just try to pronounce names incorrectly, clearly, and Bessa is
Speaker 2: sitting in the spa, enjoying the perks of the city,
Speaker 2: and she's lecturing to Jace, but she he's very uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: He understands who she is. He's trying to be polite,
Speaker 2: but she has absolutely no qualms about striding out of
Speaker 2: the water, completely nude and threatening Jace. And I love
Speaker 2: this scene, in particular the backdrop it's set against, with
Speaker 2: this painting of an army all with their spears pointed
Speaker 2: in to this exact spot that Jace is standing.
Speaker 1: From there, we cut to Caitlin and Vibe and the council.
Speaker 1: They're about to present to the council. Caitlyn makes her pitch.
Speaker 1: She says, look, I went to the under city. Violet
Speaker 1: showed me around. People are sick, they're starving, they're ravaged
Speaker 1: by Shimmer. They're under the thumb of warlords like Silko.
Speaker 1: And Silko is out here on a mission to make
Speaker 1: Zoon independent. He wants to split the city into Jace
Speaker 1: immediately wants to go down their guns blazing. He wants
Speaker 1: to meet force with force. Stupid Mel trying to calm
Speaker 1: him down, urges him to reconsider again. She says Jace,
Speaker 1: you don't know war like I do. War should be
Speaker 1: our absolute last resort. So she proposes that we negotiate
Speaker 1: with Silko. We got to find a diplomatic solution here,
Speaker 1: which triggers Violet. She is not interested in negotiating with
Speaker 1: a man who killed her father and ruined her life
Speaker 1: and took her sister, and she explodes on the council
Speaker 1: and storms out of the room. Caitlyn rushes after Violet
Speaker 1: and tries to console her in the rain.
Speaker 4: In the rain, very romantic.
Speaker 1: Very romantic. They're both soaking wet. But we tried. It
Speaker 1: wasn't enough. Top side and bottom oil and water. That
Speaker 1: is what Violet tells Caitlin. This isn't going to happen.
Speaker 1: We were foolish to even try. Why did we think
Speaker 1: anyone would listen to us? Where incompatible? The top side
Speaker 1: the under city are incompatible. It's never going to work out.
Speaker 1: Caitlin obviously heartbroken by this, but Violet says, just forget
Speaker 1: about me, go back to your giant home and your
Speaker 1: rich parents. It was never meant to be between us.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love this because it's such a great moment of well,
Speaker 3: there's no easy answers. Yeah, you know, I think everybody
Speaker 3: who watches this scene there's probably at least five or
Speaker 3: six different reactions of like, oh, well I would do this,
Speaker 3: and they should do that. I think something they do
Speaker 3: in these final two episodes it's really smart. Is they
Speaker 3: really zoom in and go on to like a micro
Speaker 3: level of this relationship between Caitlin and Vi, and that
Speaker 3: is what your focus is on. And then when everything explodes,
Speaker 3: you realize that there's so much you know, you've been
Speaker 3: sucked into this relationship between these two characters that you
Speaker 3: care that you almost think about the fate of the
Speaker 3: city as like secondary. Yeah, but at the same time,
Speaker 3: Caitlin and VI's struggles are like representative of the city.
Speaker 3: So I just think it's such a clever scene in
Speaker 3: a clever way to make us almost forget about the
Speaker 3: macro of the show, which and then when you get
Speaker 3: to the finale, in the final moments, you realize what
Speaker 3: everything's going to change. Yeah, there's no coming back.
Speaker 1: And to your point, Rosie, their relationship also exists within
Speaker 1: the context of the city, within the critical context of
Speaker 1: the city. So as much as you want to forget
Speaker 1: and live in like a fairy tale world where people
Speaker 1: like Caitlin and Vi can be together. The show doesn't
Speaker 1: let you forget that oil and water, you and I
Speaker 1: come from different universes. This is very Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 1: This is just not going to happen because of the
Speaker 1: world we live in, and unless things dramatically change, people
Speaker 1: like us can never actually live happily ever after.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great storytell I do kind of wish
Speaker 2: that the show gave us one character that could vocalize
Speaker 2: a little more eloquently the desire to keep the two
Speaker 2: parts of the city separate, because right now we just
Speaker 2: have it as kind of the straw man, like we
Speaker 2: know segregation is bad, we should be helping the under city.
Speaker 2: And so it almost seems like, okay, yeah, we have
Speaker 2: these cartoonish members of the council who you know, are
Speaker 2: eating the nuts, and then he gives the councilman for
Speaker 2: his birthday like an open bag of nuts that he's
Speaker 2: allergic to. These guys are all idiots. Yeah, they're the
Speaker 2: only ones that are like, no, we have to oppress
Speaker 2: the under city. There's no one that I care about
Speaker 2: who's of that mindset. And yet it still feels like
Speaker 2: such this mood within Piltover. I mean, Heimerdinger's already down
Speaker 2: in the under city, Caitlin has been wanting to visit,
Speaker 2: and she's there fighting with Violet. Nobody is actively trying
Speaker 2: to prevent this from happening on that side that we
Speaker 2: care about, and so it just feels a little I
Speaker 2: do wish we had one person who was vocalizing that
Speaker 2: a little.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but maybe the reason that they can't have a
Speaker 3: character like that is because there's just no good reason
Speaker 3: for it. Yeah, do you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: how it is in real life where it's like nobody
Speaker 3: can really explain why something should be segregated because they
Speaker 3: would sound like a cartoonish idiot villain because it shouldn't be.
Speaker 3: I would say, as like, from a storytelling perspective, it
Speaker 3: could be pretty cool to have almost like some populist
Speaker 3: who is vocalizing that and trying to rally people around.
Speaker 4: So I could definitely see a way it could fit in.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's also a combination of war, Like
Speaker 1: we won the war. These people were our enemies at
Speaker 1: one point, and we're not trying to get in another fight,
Speaker 1: so let's make sure that we keep them beneath us.
Speaker 1: But also I think it's also a bit of like
Speaker 1: we forgot about them, like we beat them up, and
Speaker 1: then they just kind of exist over there, and we
Speaker 1: can pretend they don't exist because we won and now
Speaker 1: they're not our problem, and all the economic and technological
Speaker 1: prosperity that we have we don't have to share. We
Speaker 1: get to just ignore these people. And because of that,
Speaker 1: people like Silko and many of the under city residents
Speaker 1: we see singed suffer because they don't at the same
Speaker 1: sort of amenities and benefits that someone had Piltover might. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think it is a natural, just like result
Speaker 1: of a war progressing into stagnation, progressing into ignoring a
Speaker 1: certain group of people.
Speaker 2: Someone who is definitely not stagnating. We cut to Victor,
Speaker 2: who has a brand new leg thanks to his hex
Speaker 2: Tech and shimmer combination, and he starts walking and then
Speaker 2: he ditches the cane and he's walking without the cane,
Speaker 2: and then he breaks into a full on forest gum
Speaker 2: sprint and he's going for it. Hot Lab assistant Sky
Speaker 2: is building up the courage to talk to Victor. Now
Speaker 2: you know, she has her own little experiment. She wants
Speaker 2: to work on and he's inspired her, but she walks
Speaker 2: in on him performing new horrendous Hextech shimmer body modifications,
Speaker 2: and suddenly the hex Tech Corps is pulling him in
Speaker 2: and he can't escape it, and she goes to try
Speaker 2: to help him, and oh my gosh, why do the
Speaker 2: good die young? She winds up being vaporized and up
Speaker 2: to find her glasses.
Speaker 3: Horror fur Ip to the Hot Lab assistance Rip. I
Speaker 3: do mean it, but I think that it's very complex
Speaker 3: to have a technology that essentially can be seen as
Speaker 3: like a cure to a disability. And I'm always slightly
Speaker 3: nervy when I'm like somebody who is using a cane
Speaker 3: and then suddenly they're running like magical disability cure.
Speaker 4: But I think something they.
Speaker 3: Do here that is really scary and necessary is they
Speaker 3: then show that actually this isn't some great thing that's
Speaker 3: completely safe, Like you're taking risks, you're making a choice,
Speaker 3: and that choice ends up with this like really horrible aftermath,
Speaker 3: which I found to be very sad and moving, but
Speaker 3: also like a really interesting side effect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point. Next we cut back to Jase.
Speaker 1: He's back in the Forge.
Speaker 2: He just so you know, we've organized the recap so
Speaker 2: that a boot can do all the thirsty bits on Jase.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's why we're here, right, this is
Speaker 1: why we're here.
Speaker 4: I'm proud of you.
Speaker 3: I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1: Fortunately he's got his shirt on this time around, now
Speaker 1: pull up. No pull ups. No female gaze in this
Speaker 1: scene for sure, just Jase angry in the forge, working
Speaker 1: on stuff, clearly crafting the hammer we will shortly see
Speaker 1: at the end of this episode. Violet shows up to
Speaker 1: offer him a way to fight back against Silkoe. You
Speaker 1: want to actually do something about this. You're the only
Speaker 1: one who is talking reasonable at that council meeting. Let's
Speaker 1: go you and me. We can take care of this.
Speaker 1: Violet reaches for the apparently non weaponized the gloves that
Speaker 1: are not weaponized, gloves that are only meant for mining
Speaker 1: and crushing rocks and not human skulls.
Speaker 3: And they don't look at all familiar or like this
Speaker 3: is an important moment for her character, right, she.
Speaker 1: Puts that glove on. She comments how someone she once
Speaker 1: knew had similar power gloves like this that were meant
Speaker 1: for fighting, not for mining rocks, and she suggests Hey, Jace,
Speaker 1: you and me. We hit him fast, we hit him hard,
Speaker 1: we hit him wear it hurts. Let's go take out
Speaker 1: the Shimmer manufacturing facilities and that is how we take
Speaker 1: down Soilco. And she raises one gloved hand and says,
Speaker 1: we got a deal, pretty boy. And I love this scene.
Speaker 1: Not only was it really gorgeous, just a lot of
Speaker 1: really beautiful shots and lighting in this scene, but I
Speaker 1: also just liked thematically that it took place in a
Speaker 1: forge because we're watching two of the most hot headed
Speaker 1: and most brash characters in this season teaming up and
Speaker 1: deciding to do something super hot headed and brash, and
Speaker 1: the temperature is heating up.
Speaker 2: So Jase agrees and jas his hammer. An entire army
Speaker 2: of enforcers arrive at one of the manufacturing facilities. One
Speaker 2: kid breaks free to sound the alarm and we see
Speaker 2: the guards awaken and the guards are these shimmer infused
Speaker 2: people that are in hyper armor with Deadpool fist blades,
Speaker 2: and this is X Men origins Wolverine Deadpool, not the
Speaker 2: New Deadpool. And then these really fast flying armored guards
Speaker 2: are coming in and then Violet shows up with her
Speaker 2: fists and she starts tag teaming these big daddies with Jace,
Speaker 2: and in the fight, Jace accidentally shoots the young boy
Speaker 2: who had hit the alarm and he falls a terrifyingly
Speaker 2: long way down to his death. The guards are all dead,
Speaker 2: the fight is over. Jace is one, Violet is one.
Speaker 2: But Jace realizes that he is. He looks around and
Speaker 2: he's invaded a factory full of children. So I guess,
Speaker 2: on the one hand, it's not like he killed the
Speaker 2: only kid that was there.
Speaker 1: He just.
Speaker 4: Killed one of many kids.
Speaker 2: Yes, one of many. So one of my big ripes
Speaker 2: again as someone who is not a Jace apologist. So
Speaker 2: he's just spent his time studying and then on the council.
Speaker 2: Every once in a while he goes and does some
Speaker 2: pull ups and he's suddenly like the best fighter.
Speaker 4: You don't think there's been enough training montages.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what if instead of them in the forge, what
Speaker 2: if Jace was at a punching bag and Violet comes
Speaker 2: and meets him there or something. It just it was
Speaker 2: also like in terms of a video game, both of
Speaker 2: these characters are full glass cannons. They have no armor,
Speaker 2: no protective things whatsoever. I guess like a hammer that
Speaker 2: also is a bazooka. Like, maybe you just deal with
Speaker 2: things at range, you don't need a ton of armor.
Speaker 2: But it was a little much for me to be like,
Speaker 2: here these.
Speaker 3: Aaron was saying, this was very badly thought out.
Speaker 4: Where was the strategy, right right?
Speaker 3: Yes, well you know as well, maybe you don't really
Speaker 3: need armor. Maybe it was just a fluke because they
Speaker 3: were actually like attacking a place full of children. They
Speaker 3: didn't really need a arm off. Right, that's bleak, Right,
Speaker 3: it's bleak, but true, Right.
Speaker 1: None of those baby punches were ever gonna get through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, oh that is so so so bleak. They
Speaker 3: should have thought this through. But again, I think this
Speaker 3: is like one of the best things about this show
Speaker 3: is that complexity of like, hey, yeah, you're gonna root
Speaker 3: for them, They're gonna go take down on the Shim effactory?
Speaker 4: Did it do?
Speaker 3: But again, things are never that simple. Actually, the people
Speaker 3: who are working the Shimer factory are child enslaved children
Speaker 3: who are being forced to work, who are likely addicted
Speaker 3: to shimmer as well. And actually, war is not some
Speaker 3: simple thing where there's always bad guys that you can kill. Actually,
Speaker 3: you have to go into this with more insight and
Speaker 3: more information. Obviously, we know that Jason is going to
Speaker 3: be haunted by what he has done, especially because, like
Speaker 3: you said that, he doesn't really know war, right, but
Speaker 3: now he's killing children, So it's been a bad day
Speaker 3: for him. I think this is going to be like
Speaker 3: a very hardcore change moment for him and a realization
Speaker 3: of these things are.
Speaker 4: Just not that simple.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it shows what a lack of restraint can
Speaker 1: lead to.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 1: He ran in there literally hammer and guns blazing, without
Speaker 1: all the information. He didn't ask who's in this facility,
Speaker 1: what's the game plan? He just decided, let's just take
Speaker 1: some enforcers and blow this thing up. Yeah, without knowing
Speaker 1: the full picture and realizing that these facilities are staffed
Speaker 1: by children.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 1: He certainly wouldn't have done this if he hadn't taken
Speaker 1: the time to hit pause and think about it and
Speaker 1: learn before jumping in there.
Speaker 2: So Jay's famous for hitting pause and thinking about it.
Speaker 1: I think it just speaks to a lot of the
Speaker 1: older generation in this show that has warned these younger
Speaker 1: kids from running in without thinking first. Vander Heimerdinger, There
Speaker 1: have been a number of characters that have warned them.
Speaker 1: Silko have warned the children to not run in and
Speaker 1: think first because of their experience, their own mistakes they've
Speaker 1: made in the past, and we see that repetition that
Speaker 1: like infinite cycle of violence where they continue to repeat
Speaker 1: these mistakes.
Speaker 4: The big takeaway from this episode is there needs to
Speaker 4: be a compromise. Yes, I am a pacifist.
Speaker 3: I do not agree with a war, but I do
Speaker 3: agree with people being able to live well and needing
Speaker 3: to fight for that right. So like, yeah, I just
Speaker 3: think it's really complex, and I'm very excited to see
Speaker 3: what they do going into season two after this, because
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be way more complicated than
Speaker 3: even this first season.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, well let's wrap up episode eight
Speaker 1: one final scenes ago. Caitlin is in the shower and
Speaker 1: she's replaying that moment with Violet walking away from her
Speaker 1: in the rain, obviously still on her mind, and she
Speaker 1: turns the shower off, steps out, and the steam starts
Speaker 1: to dissipate and over her shoulder in a very horror
Speaker 1: movie moment.
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, this is so I love this moment so much.
Speaker 1: We see Jinks just a glowing Jinx eye in the mirror.
Speaker 2: Got to credits scary, scary stuff.
Speaker 1: Scary stuff. And that's episode eight. So before we continue
Speaker 1: on with our recap in our discussion today with episode nine, guys,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick breather, let's collect ourselves. This is
Speaker 1: the final episode of season one that we're about to
Speaker 1: get into. Right after a short break.
Speaker 2: All right, we are back with episode nine. The monster
Speaker 2: you created.
Speaker 3: Oh, get ready to cry? Get ready to cry, guys.
Speaker 2: We open with mister Patience himself, Jace mourning the loss
Speaker 2: of the young boy.
Speaker 3: I was so sick of him in this moment. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, yeah, dah. You honestly, if
Speaker 3: you just turned this episode on because you wanted to
Speaker 3: recap the finale before you watch season two and you
Speaker 3: couldn't really remember, you would be mistaken to think that
Speaker 3: maybe Jace was just mourning a random kid who had
Speaker 3: died and not somebody he had killed.
Speaker 4: Jace, what the fuckme? Man?
Speaker 2: Truly, in his defense, the only time you'll ever hear
Speaker 2: me say that he wants out already. He's involved now,
Speaker 2: and he's like, we need to stop this. Violet reminds
Speaker 2: him that he's always been involved, he just was ignoring
Speaker 2: it before, which was his luxury that he got to
Speaker 2: do great line, thanks to Silko, and thanks to everyone
Speaker 2: who's ignored Silko and just let this occur. Hundreds of
Speaker 2: other kids are in this exact same position, and Violet's
Speaker 2: not giving up. She's like, I'm still doing this. You're
Speaker 2: in this, come on, let's go finish this. And he's like, no,
Speaker 2: leave the gloves and she's like, well, obviously I'm not
Speaker 2: going to do that, and he's like, he's like, well,
Speaker 2: I'm not killing someone else today.
Speaker 3: So it's like, have you played the game?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you don't do equip things. As you get
Speaker 2: more and more close to the final boss fight, Jace
Speaker 2: doesn't want to kill anyone else, but he warns her.
Speaker 2: He's like, you're not going to make it on your own,
Speaker 2: and before she leaves, she turns and she punches the
Speaker 2: Shimmer tank, ruining the Shimmer production. At least they got that,
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: I'm like sure, I'm honestly, I I I'm not into
Speaker 3: you this war on drugs that you have going on, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the most sensible or I
Speaker 3: understand that you have an issue with Silko, but I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's going to solve the greater socioeconomic
Speaker 3: issues that we are striving with here, I feel like
Speaker 3: they're ways that you could spend your energy. And I
Speaker 3: do feel like, as Aaron pointed out, rare to hear
Speaker 3: me say it, I do think Jason's right here. I
Speaker 3: do think he has learned the lesson. It shouldn't have
Speaker 3: cost the life of a child, but he is seen
Speaker 3: in the most horrible way what war can do.
Speaker 4: The problem here is.
Speaker 3: By does not learn that lesson, like Viya is still
Speaker 3: really driven by revenge. Whatever version of the world that
Speaker 3: she is selling, This idea that she can stop Silko
Speaker 3: is really more about revenge than making the world better
Speaker 3: for anyone else.
Speaker 2: Violet's mind on everything was made up the day she
Speaker 2: went to prison exactly. Has not changed since then, except
Speaker 2: that she is friends with Caitlin. Like she's let herself
Speaker 2: get that far. But it took her almost dying for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it also took her having a crush. Yeah,
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like you needed to, I've been in prison a long time.
Speaker 3: We can all change our mind. When there's like a
Speaker 3: beautiful rich woman being like, Hi, would you like to
Speaker 3: how's it going?
Speaker 4: And suddenly you're like.
Speaker 2: To seek into my parents' house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe this seems a bit more feeling them present.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Siko who I will say I loved this opening
Speaker 1: scene because of what it says about the socioeconomic divide
Speaker 1: between the Upper City and Lower City. Jase here has
Speaker 1: the privilege to say this is over. I don't want
Speaker 1: to I'm walking away. I don't want to be involved.
Speaker 3: It's still happening.
Speaker 1: Suh. Right, there's blood on his hands, but he gets
Speaker 1: to wipe them off and go back to the council
Speaker 1: chamber and his bougie apartment in the Upper City and
Speaker 1: forget about this.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I loved that. Violet in response was but this isn't
Speaker 1: over for me. It's never been over for me. I
Speaker 1: live here, this is my life. I don't get to
Speaker 1: wipe my hands and walk away and ignore it.
Speaker 2: Jase doesn't have an issue with the fact that there
Speaker 2: are hundreds of kids working there. Jase has an issue
Speaker 2: with the fact that he killed one of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I'm like, Jase, that you could do something
Speaker 3: to help these kids. Yeah, I mean, that's like help
Speaker 3: the kids escape. That seems like it would be a
Speaker 3: useful thing to do. I like that line of Booty
Speaker 3: you put it in the notes. Right, It's like you've
Speaker 3: always been a part of this, You've just never had
Speaker 3: to look at in the eye.
Speaker 4: Right, It's like such a good line.
Speaker 3: Like you can say, oh, I don't want to deal
Speaker 3: with homeless people, Well, you they're there every day, Like
Speaker 3: what do you mean, Like you could just help them out,
Speaker 3: like just but you get to choose to ignore them
Speaker 3: when you walk past. It's very much that mentality, which
Speaker 3: I do think honestly is one of Jase's biggest flaws.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to be fair, a lot of the Upper
Speaker 1: Cities flaws. You know, they get to pretend the under
Speaker 1: city doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: That's basically their original sin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Okay. Continuing with the recap, we then
Speaker 1: cut to Sevika and Silka, who are in this manufacturing
Speaker 1: plant investigating what happened. It turns out that the boy
Speaker 1: that Jay's killed isn't just some rando kid. He's in
Speaker 1: fact the son of Rennie, who is one of the
Speaker 1: members of the Kem Barons that works closely with Silko.
Speaker 1: Rennie is understandably grieving the death of her Son's pissed,
Speaker 1: and she argues that none of this would have happened.
Speaker 1: The Upper City would never have been so bold if
Speaker 1: Marcus were still alive. And Marcus is dead because of
Speaker 1: your daughter, who's out of control? Silko? Where is CHINX?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Have you reined her in? Are you
Speaker 1: gonna do anything about my dead boy here? She's understandably
Speaker 1: pissed about all of this.
Speaker 3: Also, I'm like, babe, you are correct, but like, why
Speaker 3: was he working there? You are like the back I question,
Speaker 3: do just like don't have him working there?
Speaker 4: Like sorry, but maybe just don't do that.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know what, Maybe she was in some kind
Speaker 3: of debt, Maybe that was something a reason. But like
Speaker 3: I feel like one of the few pucks of being
Speaker 3: a Ken Baron is your son probably shouldn't have to
Speaker 3: do like indentured servitude the Shima factory.
Speaker 1: That was my question.
Speaker 3: Well you know what I will say, he does the
Speaker 3: kid who died RP to that boy like this is
Speaker 3: a legendary action movie position is to be the kid
Speaker 3: who is the spy who announces when somebody is coming in.
Speaker 3: It happens in dread, it happens in the rad, it
Speaker 3: happens in the night comes for us. So I think,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe he's just a lookout. Maybe he doesn't
Speaker 3: actually work in the Shima factory. Maybe he's got the
Speaker 3: higher ranking of the indentured children. But Rennie, I really
Speaker 3: think this one is on you, honestly, Babe. It's obviously
Speaker 3: on Jason mostly, but you could have just let him
Speaker 3: have a day off, right.
Speaker 2: Victor awakes, he finds Sky's notes and also a letter
Speaker 2: that she was writing to him. He now feels, you know,
Speaker 2: we see him looking stiff and metallic as opposed to
Speaker 2: this guy who is running, you know, like an olympian
Speaker 2: not too long ago. Last episode, and in anger, he
Speaker 2: decides he wants to try to destroy the hex Core.
Speaker 2: But he lifts his stool up over his head and
Speaker 2: he can't do it, and he's dejected and he starts
Speaker 2: walking away, and then the hex Corps like reacts, oh
Speaker 2: sends a little pulse and it shocks him and he
Speaker 2: falls over, and like suddenly we realize maybe this is
Speaker 2: acting of its own accord.
Speaker 3: Maybe I was gonna say, can we talk a little
Speaker 3: bit about that, because if you don't know the law
Speaker 3: of the Games, or really about Hexcore, I felt like
Speaker 3: this was a very shocking moment we've got hints of
Speaker 3: this connection of science and magic and what it means.
Speaker 3: But yeah, this implies some kind of sentience, yeah, or
Speaker 3: that it is even actually exerting its will over him.
Speaker 3: So this feels like a big deal going into season two.
Speaker 2: So I don't know enough about the game or season two,
Speaker 2: but in my head, one of the great great shows
Speaker 2: of all time, Game of Thrones does an incredible job
Speaker 2: of making you care about every character but also hate
Speaker 2: every character because there's also some impending threat with the
Speaker 2: White Walkers that are coming. No matter what, everyone can
Speaker 2: dislike that, and so I do think you know is
Speaker 2: the hex core. In the trailer, there's a line cover
Speaker 2: yours real quickly if you don't want any spoilers from
Speaker 2: the trailer. But in the trailer there's a line that
Speaker 2: the Arcane has awoken. Are we getting Is that gonna
Speaker 2: be our White Walkers coming? And if so, this is
Speaker 2: the first moment when I've cared about this storyline as
Speaker 2: much as I cared about the Inner City and violence storyline,
Speaker 2: and I up until now it's just been like the
Speaker 2: I know this is building to something, but what is it?
Speaker 2: This moment, this one little scene is when I feel
Speaker 2: it the most, all right.
Speaker 1: Moving on to the next scene, mel confronts her mother
Speaker 1: and Bessa. She tells her to stay away from Jase.
Speaker 3: She's like, stop being in the bath with Jase.
Speaker 1: It's I heard you were naked around my boyfriend. She
Speaker 1: tells Abssa to just leave the city. Why are you
Speaker 1: even here and an Bessa finally reveals the truth of
Speaker 1: this visit. She says, uh, we are in trouble. The
Speaker 1: man who killed her brother thinks the score is not
Speaker 1: settled and is coming after me, coming after you, And
Speaker 1: in fact, we uh don't have the resources to fight him,
Speaker 1: and so I'm here basically for hex Tech. I want
Speaker 1: hex Tech. I want hex Tech weapons.
Speaker 3: Besa, you suck, you a bad Truly, you're a bad
Speaker 3: a bad mom.
Speaker 1: Mel Is, you know, understandably shocked and worried and angry
Speaker 1: at her mother about all of this, and tells her,
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to protect this city from people
Speaker 1: like you. I can't believe you'd start a war, that
Speaker 1: you'd let this war take place just so you could
Speaker 1: get some weaponry for your own to save your own
Speaker 1: ass and am Bessa's response, I would set the world
Speaker 1: a blaze to protect our family, which.
Speaker 3: Please, your son is already dead, so too late, babe, Like,
Speaker 3: this is not really about protecting your family. I feel
Speaker 3: like at this point it's about protecting you.
Speaker 4: Yes, and your.
Speaker 1: Interest absolutely a total cop out, but Invessa doubles down
Speaker 1: on this line of thinking and tries to convince Mel
Speaker 1: to come home with the hex Tech. Who cares about Piltover,
Speaker 1: who cares about Zoon? Who are these people to you?
Speaker 1: Let's just take the hex Tech, let this war play out.
Speaker 1: You come back be at my side where you belong.
Speaker 2: Classic.
Speaker 3: I will also say, as much as Ambassa sucks as
Speaker 3: like a person, she has such a badass character design.
Speaker 3: I just love it so much. She has got that
Speaker 3: classic energy actually of a Game of Thrones character who
Speaker 3: you're gonna hate right now. But then if you did
Speaker 3: a spin off and you went back and you saw
Speaker 3: where Ambassa's from, and you saw everything she's doing and
Speaker 3: the people she's protecting, you'd be like, oh, actually, she's
Speaker 3: pretty cool, Like she had a reason for doing this.
Speaker 4: I feel like she has that potential.
Speaker 3: But right now I'm on the Hatter side, But I
Speaker 3: do believe there's more to her than we have seen.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 2: I just you know, mel I feel like and Bessa
Speaker 2: carried you for nine months, can't you carry her for
Speaker 2: one war?
Speaker 1: Come on?
Speaker 3: You know, Aaron said, she blessed you with the gift
Speaker 3: of life, So bless her with the gift of exta
Speaker 3: for the gift of death.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Victor goes back to his favorite little
Speaker 2: spot in the sewer in the under City, spreading Sky's
Speaker 2: ashes in the pools where he goes, thanks. Yeah, He's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know where he wanted to be buried or
Speaker 2: have your ashes. I'm going to put you in the sewer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put you in the super swear. Anyways, he's
Speaker 2: back to using his crutch and he standing there contemplating jumping,
Speaker 2: and Jason interrupts him in a nice little chase of
Speaker 2: their their very first scene together, and the two of
Speaker 2: them are there reminiscing about old times, you know, before
Speaker 2: you killed a kid and before I killed house. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what could have possibly been the issue here? And Victor
Speaker 2: asks Jace to destroy the hex core and he was like,
Speaker 2: I can't do it. You have to please, And Jace
Speaker 2: is really hesitant because he's a company man, but he
Speaker 2: promises that he's going to do it, Like, is that logical?
Speaker 2: Is that logic?
Speaker 1: You also have a really great quote in our notes
Speaker 1: here that I wanted to share it because it really resonated.
Speaker 1: We lost ourselves, we lost our dream in the pursuit
Speaker 1: of great, we failed to do good. We have to
Speaker 1: make it right.
Speaker 3: I love that. I think this is very good comparative
Speaker 3: analogous to like nuclear weaponry is very much like why
Speaker 3: here where it's this, we need to do it first,
Speaker 3: we need to be the ones to achieve it, and
Speaker 3: then you do something that's so unbelievably horrific. Once you
Speaker 3: have done it and you lose control of it.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, And it's a good reversal too. I mean,
Speaker 2: this scene here is reminiscent of the first time Victor
Speaker 2: and Jace meet in Jace's apartment, but also when Victor
Speaker 2: and Heimerdinger are here, when Victor first gets his diagnosis
Speaker 2: and Heimerdinger is like, You're gonna have a great legacy,
Speaker 2: and he's like, I didn't do anything monumental, and now
Speaker 2: here he is saying trying to do something monumental and
Speaker 2: legendary is not worth being horrible, and we lost our
Speaker 2: way along the right.
Speaker 1: In our next scene, Finn, Rennie, and Sevika come to
Speaker 1: confront Silko, and Silka reminds them what kept the under
Speaker 1: City together before it was an enterprise, before he raised
Speaker 1: it up to what it is now. Loyalty, love.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Kendrick lamar.
Speaker 2: Right, all right.
Speaker 1: Sevika, in a really great tense moment, takes out her sword,
Speaker 1: swipes right over the head of Silko and kills Finn,
Speaker 1: and then Finn tells Rennie to leave. It's a really
Speaker 1: great show of Sevika's loyalty and belief in Silko and
Speaker 1: really subvert sart expectations because we, you know, we expected
Speaker 1: her to betray him given the scenes we had watched
Speaker 1: thus far. Sevika actually even tells Silko that no, she
Speaker 1: wasn't ever tempted by Finn. She would never actually work
Speaker 1: with a guy like him. His dress code, not my style. Horrible,
Speaker 1: horrible opinion. Yeah, best design character, hands down. But she
Speaker 1: does say Silko, buddy like Finn, was not the first
Speaker 1: and he certainly won't be the last. People are going
Speaker 1: to question a leadership if things continue to go the
Speaker 1: way they are. We see Silko then turn his attention
Speaker 1: back to this letter that he had been reading before,
Speaker 1: and uh, we learned that this letter is from Jase.
Speaker 4: Shocking.
Speaker 2: So Soko goes to meet Jase on the ramparts overlooking
Speaker 2: the coast, and Soko presents his list of demands. He
Speaker 2: wants free trade, he wants access to the hext gates,
Speaker 2: and most of all, he wants sovereignty.
Speaker 3: Well, I love that he was like. He just went
Speaker 3: in and he was like, here's the five top five
Speaker 3: things I want to do, and absolutely none of them
Speaker 3: will ever be approved by the council, like, no compromise.
Speaker 3: He went in there and he was like, the job
Speaker 3: description says you will pay fifty thousand dollars a year,
Speaker 3: and I want a million.
Speaker 4: What can you do?
Speaker 2: He didn't even wait for the job description. He went
Speaker 2: into the interview and was like, this is what I need.
Speaker 2: Counter my offer exactly. He's setting the.
Speaker 1: Price, throwing unlimited Popeye's Chicken sandwiches for a life while
Speaker 1: we're at it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, universal income for everyone in the the city. Like
Speaker 3: it's not going to happen, babe. I love your ambition there.
Speaker 2: Soko thinks that Jase is afraid, but Jay says he's
Speaker 2: afraid of the carnage that Piltover is going to inflict
Speaker 2: upon Zon if they don't I don't agree to terms.
Speaker 2: And he's trying to spare the under city. Come on, man,
Speaker 2: Jase is.
Speaker 3: Trying to spare himself from having to kill more children than.
Speaker 4: The semi factory.
Speaker 3: Real for real.
Speaker 2: They're almost at an agreement, but then Jace says he
Speaker 2: wants Jinks, and he's like, believe me, I'd happily throw
Speaker 2: you in jail, but I can't make a deal with
Speaker 2: a snake and then cut off its head.
Speaker 1: We then cut to Echo and Heimerdinger, who are practically
Speaker 1: doing nothing. They're just chill in. They're going to the
Speaker 1: Firelights sanctuary. Heimerdinger once again is like shocked and surprised
Speaker 1: to find out this is happening in the under City.
Speaker 1: The most confused little Nordling I've ever seen in my
Speaker 1: life or whatever he has or forget what his yard ling, Yordling.
Speaker 1: That's right, and there was a line in here, I
Speaker 1: will say. Echo says, the line in here very poignant stuff,
Speaker 1: and it speaks to his personal experiences here in the
Speaker 1: under City. He says, it's not enough to give people
Speaker 1: what they need to survive. You have to give them
Speaker 1: what they need to live.
Speaker 2: And Heimerdinger is like, my dude, I've been to the opera,
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, like you gotta you gotta have those artistic,
Speaker 3: inspirational tiny opera glasses so you can really see what
Speaker 3: everyone's right. For us to be able to afford our
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Speaker 2: That's right, all right, and we are back. Silko is
Speaker 2: lamenting at the statue of Vander. He's talking to Vander
Speaker 2: through the statue itself, and he says, you know, he
Speaker 2: sees how logically he probably should take the deal, but
Speaker 2: he doesn't know that Jinx is listening. Done dun dumb,
Speaker 2: and so we cut to the last drop. Violet walks in.
Speaker 2: We get some Western showdown music on the jukebox. Savika
Speaker 2: tells everyone to get out and fightings and turns out
Speaker 2: Violet probably could have used a little bit of armor
Speaker 2: after all. Imagine that as Savika has like this pulsing
Speaker 2: energy blade that comes out of her arm.
Speaker 1: Mary Mega Man, Yeah, would.
Speaker 2: Have been nice to have had something. Violet imagines Vander
Speaker 2: coaching her in the fight and pointing out that everyone
Speaker 2: still needs her. She still has a bigger role to
Speaker 2: play here. She's down one power glove because it's been
Speaker 2: stabbed by Savika's sword. Y shields herself and rips off
Speaker 2: Savika's modified arm, and she goes to get the broken arm.
Speaker 2: The fight's over. She goes to get the broken arm,
Speaker 2: and Jinks appears and knocks her out.
Speaker 1: Jinks everywhere all at once, this one. I do want
Speaker 1: to shout out the Silko at the Vander Fountain scene.
Speaker 1: Never have I felt so much for a villain, for
Speaker 1: a heinous villain. Him just the I forget what the
Speaker 1: exact line was, but he said something like, is there
Speaker 1: anything as so undoing as a daughter or something? Yeah,
Speaker 1: as a dog, and he sort of he finally seemingly
Speaker 1: understands where Vander was coming from and why Vander chose
Speaker 1: his family and his daughters over perhaps the dream that
Speaker 1: he and Silko had been fighting for ever since they
Speaker 1: were young, and now here Silko, on the verge of
Speaker 1: achieving that very dream, finally understands why Vander might have
Speaker 1: backed off too, because now he's toying with the idea
Speaker 1: of backing off for his daughter. It's beautiful stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are a sucker for a Silco and Vandersen.
Speaker 2: I let me tell you, Oh yeah, you are.
Speaker 1: I really feel for there if they ever do like
Speaker 1: a little prolog like backstory one off short episode about
Speaker 1: Vander and Silko's backstory, like it's gonna get me.
Speaker 3: Well, I do think as well, Like it's one of
Speaker 3: those really bittersweet things in the show because you just
Speaker 3: can't help but think, what if Vander wasn't dead?
Speaker 1: What if?
Speaker 4: What if?
Speaker 3: What would that have looked like if this had come sooner?
Speaker 3: Like what does it mean? And also it's always amazing
Speaker 3: when you have warring factions that end up coming to
Speaker 3: the same place but too late.
Speaker 4: That's always like a moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you see echoes of Vander, even if we
Speaker 1: never get the true backstory of their relationship, we see
Speaker 1: echoes of it in every relationship in this show, Himer,
Speaker 1: Dinger and j Jason, Victor Van Jinks, Caitlin and Vi,
Speaker 1: every relationship in every conflict for me at least, seemingly
Speaker 1: stems back to Vander Silko and the divide between Upper
Speaker 1: City Lower City. It's beautiful stuff. Okay, back to our recap,
Speaker 1: Jason Victor appear before the council. Jace, in the Boldest
Speaker 1: Move ever, just shits on everyone in the council and says,
Speaker 1: y'all are not fit to lead over zone. We've let
Speaker 1: them down. This is all our fault, and I've actually
Speaker 1: taken the step to do something about it. I spoke
Speaker 1: to Silko directly. We've broke her to piece, and I
Speaker 1: need everyone to raise their hands and vote yes on
Speaker 1: this right now. Understandably, the Council's like.
Speaker 3: What the fucking we're talking about?
Speaker 1: You're like twenty two years old?
Speaker 3: Who are you you?
Speaker 4: And also like where did this plan come from?
Speaker 3: How long did you think it out? Did you figure out.
Speaker 4: Longer than the last plan?
Speaker 3: Whe you ended up killing a kid?
Speaker 2: Because it doesn't seem like it right?
Speaker 1: Why is the child killer brokery piece? What are we doing? Well?
Speaker 3: We did?
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I do agree that making peace.
Speaker 4: Is a good idea.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, should be the aim, But once again, I
Speaker 3: don't think Jake thought this through and I don't believe
Speaker 3: it's gonna go the way that he hopes.
Speaker 2: Sadly, right bold Move, Violet wakes up in the cannery
Speaker 2: from episode three the end of act one, and she's
Speaker 2: tied to a chair with sparklers at her feet. Jinks
Speaker 2: proceeds to monologue to Violet and she says Silko wasn't
Speaker 2: the one that made her this way, Violet was violence
Speaker 2: is the only thing that kept her going in prison
Speaker 2: was the thought of getting back to Powder, and Jink says,
Speaker 2: are we still sisters? And Violet's like, nothing's ever gonna
Speaker 2: change that, don't worry, And then Jinks pulls Violet on
Speaker 2: the chair to a dinner table where she has Soko
Speaker 2: tied up and gagged. At the other end.
Speaker 4: She's sick of everyone.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, she's She's got dolls all over at the seats,
Speaker 2: including her Milo and Clagger dolls. And she then is
Speaker 2: telling Violet she paid a little visit to Caitlyn and
Speaker 2: she reveals a platter with the top on it and
Speaker 2: Violet's like, oh my god, no, and she opens it
Speaker 2: and Violet screams and she's like, come on.
Speaker 4: Because you think it's gonna be Caitlyn's head.
Speaker 2: And she's like, even I'm not that crazy.
Speaker 3: Don't be burying those gays yet, yea, nothing, we haven't gone.
Speaker 2: It's it's very tame. It's just a cupcake with the
Speaker 2: Heck's crystal on top. And then she's so dramatic. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2: She then wheels Caitlyn to the table, who obviously is
Speaker 2: also bound and gagged. But wait a minute, where is
Speaker 2: Jink's gonna sit. She has one chair that says jinx
Speaker 2: and one chair that says powder on opposite ends of
Speaker 2: the table, and Jinks gives Violet an ultimatum, here's my gun,
Speaker 2: shoot Caitlin, get her out of the picture, and you
Speaker 2: can have powder back. Violet says, no, no, Look, you
Speaker 2: and I can leave. We can never come back. And
Speaker 2: then Jinks is starting to voices and Soko is telling
Speaker 2: her that Violet's gonna betray her, and he's like, I
Speaker 2: could have had everything if I turned you in, but
Speaker 2: I didn't. I would never do that. You're my daughter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, also as well, I love this scene because when
Speaker 3: we see how much Drinks is struggling, this is one
Speaker 3: of those moments where we really get the incredible like
Speaker 3: different styles of animation where it's like we're getting these
Speaker 3: like scratchy kids drawings, and yeah, this is such a
Speaker 3: sad scene. I'm like, I hate this scene. It's so good,
Speaker 3: but it's so sad and you want it to go
Speaker 3: one way, but you know it's gonna go the other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's so much pleading from all sides and
Speaker 1: you're just rooting for it all to work out, and
Speaker 1: you know it's literally all about to.
Speaker 2: Blow up as soon as, like when watching this scene,
Speaker 2: I think this is the perfect way to end this season.
Speaker 2: And I think as soon as you see her drag
Speaker 2: Violet to the table and you see Soco at the
Speaker 2: other end, you know what's going to happen. But it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is incredible. Yes, this is going to.
Speaker 3: Be Yeah, this is definitely like a Game of Thrones
Speaker 3: level shock finale.
Speaker 4: And I see again by when I was rewatching this
Speaker 4: this morning before.
Speaker 3: I came on the show, you really see how this
Speaker 3: became such a massive succession, how it became a water
Speaker 3: cooler show because it has all these elements that would
Speaker 3: capture you in live action, but here they're utilizing them
Speaker 3: in a way that engrossed a non animation watching audience
Speaker 3: in an animated story, which I just think is such
Speaker 3: a huge achievement and something that we really need if
Speaker 3: we want to keep animation alive.
Speaker 2: Also, I mean, we haven't done enough of this, I think.
Speaker 2: But Ella Pernell's voice acting.
Speaker 4: Oh oh my god, she's so in.
Speaker 2: Particular with this scene. I think she does an incredible job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, heartbreaking, amazing stuff. Okay, well, let's finish recapping this scene.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of more beats here to go. Caitlyn
Speaker 1: uses the broken wine bottle on the table to cut
Speaker 1: her restraints. She grabs Jinx's gatling gun. We get a
Speaker 1: show down. Caitlyn shoots off a couple of warning shots,
Speaker 1: but Jinks is seemingly unfazed. Violet, meanwhile, is pleading with Caitlin,
Speaker 1: pleading with Jinks. She's trying to diffuse this whole situation.
Speaker 1: Jinks casually drops her pistol, Oh good, but then instantly
Speaker 1: shows off the enhancements she has received from her shimmer injections,
Speaker 1: and we get like just a flash of a monstrous
Speaker 1: looking Chinks as she comes up and knocks out Caitlin
Speaker 1: and steals the gun. The voices that she that are
Speaker 1: overwhelming her now are not only in her head. Is
Speaker 1: Silko and Violet are literally shouting over each other, trying
Speaker 1: to get through to Jinks, trying to get through to
Speaker 1: Powder and diffuse this whole situation. Both of them are
Speaker 1: clearly like one of us is about to die here
Speaker 1: at this table. We the viewer also know that as well. Silko,
Speaker 1: in a panic, grabs the pistol that Jinks had dropped
Speaker 1: and points it at Y, but Jinks is faster and
Speaker 1: she fires off her gatling gun, killing Silko tragically.
Speaker 3: Okay, look, can I just say I just have to
Speaker 3: say something, m HM as a sister, I need VI
Speaker 3: to take a strong look in the mirror. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: Jinks literally killed her own dad. To say, VI and
Speaker 3: VI couldn't just randomly shoot Caitlin. Like, I'm not saying
Speaker 3: she should have done it, but I feel like Jinks,
Speaker 3: I feel like she's really coming through as the as
Speaker 3: the more crazy, but also like she did what needed
Speaker 3: to be done to save VI's life.
Speaker 4: But VI was like, Nah, I can't do it.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
Speaker 4: I mean the Devil's Advocate, that was advocate.
Speaker 1: Rosie hot rich girl from the Upper City.
Speaker 3: She's promising everything to me. Dude, your sister is crazy.
Speaker 3: She needs to go home. You need to give her
Speaker 3: some loving care. You need to help her out. Man.
Speaker 3: This is gonna end badly for everyone as we're about
Speaker 3: to see.
Speaker 1: Oh, such a good scene. A great point, Rosie.
Speaker 4: I know I was crying. I was crying. I was crying.
Speaker 3: Such a good scene again, make you care about Silko,
Speaker 3: which shouldn't be possible.
Speaker 1: My goodness, shouldn't be possible. But poor Silko riddled with
Speaker 1: bullet holes. At this point, is telling Jinks with his
Speaker 1: dying breath that he actually made up his mind he
Speaker 1: was not going to ever give her up to the
Speaker 1: Upper City and he was going to turn down Jace's
Speaker 1: offer of peace let them all burn, and Jinks, of course,
Speaker 1: very touched by this, begins to cry. He wipes away
Speaker 1: a tear. Don't cry. You're perfect, something that her sister
Speaker 1: never told her. To be fair, you sister just called
Speaker 1: her a jinx and walked away from her. Jinks then
Speaker 1: walks over, now confident in herself, to the chair labeled
Speaker 1: Jinks and sits down fully embodies her role and the name,
Speaker 1: and she tells her sister, I thought you could have
Speaker 1: loved me, but you've changed. I've changed too much has changed.
Speaker 1: We can no longer be the sisters and have the
Speaker 1: relationship that we once had, which I think is poignant.
Speaker 1: Aaron and I had talked a couple episodes ago about
Speaker 1: the miscommunication that Violet and Jinks are having at this
Speaker 1: point in their life, and it's because Violet is not
Speaker 1: recognizing that this is no longer powdered. Things actually have changed,
Speaker 1: and you can't treat this person and like you did
Speaker 1: your four year old five year old sisters.
Speaker 3: As well, Like I feel like Vie doesn't have a
Speaker 3: real understanding of what Jinks has been through, do you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's like she wants her to just be the same
Speaker 3: sister and act like she has always been in the wrong,
Speaker 3: but these traumatizing things have happened to Jinks. This was
Speaker 3: so heartbreaking for me to watch. And I also think
Speaker 3: as well, it's really butterfly effect or Domino effect too,
Speaker 3: because I just I don't think what happens next would
Speaker 3: have happened if she hadn't killed Silko, Like if she
Speaker 3: hadn't made that split second decision, I don't think we
Speaker 3: would be in the situation where we are, which sets
Speaker 3: up this, you know, huge conflict in season two, And
Speaker 3: I just it's so heartbreaking, and I think she's doing
Speaker 3: it for him.
Speaker 2: I mean, she did bring it, so she had it there.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: There was at least consideration, but you know, she could
Speaker 3: have used ex crystal and not put it in a
Speaker 3: rocket launcher, put it in somewhere.
Speaker 1: Fair, absolutely fair, But unfortunately that is exactly what happens.
Speaker 1: She takes the Hex crystal, she puts it in her
Speaker 1: rocket launchers, She walks up to the window, points it
Speaker 1: at the tallest tower in Piltover, which happens to be
Speaker 1: the council chamber, and fires off her rocket. We get
Speaker 1: this incredible final montage sequence of the show. Here of
Speaker 1: season one, the council, one by one is voting for
Speaker 1: Jason's proposal for peace. We get a quick shot of Heimerdinger,
Speaker 1: and Echo hanging out, just.
Speaker 3: Hanging out, like, hey, Dore's important stuff going on here, guys,
Speaker 3: like what you up to?
Speaker 1: Clearly setting up season two stuff. And Bessa is looking
Speaker 1: at Mel's painting, which has been scratched over. Mel has
Speaker 1: clearly made a decision she is not going to side
Speaker 1: with her mother. She's gonna stick by Piltover and her
Speaker 1: neo adopted home. And finally, Jinx's Hex powered rocket hits
Speaker 1: the council building. We get this really striking bit of
Speaker 1: animation where at first we're looking through the window and
Speaker 1: we see the glint off of the chained the metal
Speaker 1: parts of Mel's dress reflecting the rocket, and then we
Speaker 1: see the rocket reflection in the glass, and then the
Speaker 1: glass shatters, cut to.
Speaker 4: Credits, cut credits.
Speaker 1: So good.
Speaker 2: Yes, altogether a pretty successful dinner party, I think.
Speaker 3: Yes, fantastic.
Speaker 4: You know, nobody could say it was boring, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, there were things to talk about the entire time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think this is such a good
Speaker 3: season finale. I think it's and I feel really lucky,
Speaker 3: and I feel like everyone else is really lucky that
Speaker 3: if you're listening to this podcast, you don't have very
Speaker 3: long to wait. Yes, because I think the weight was
Speaker 3: so painfully long, but also that's the nature of animation
Speaker 3: and that's how it gets made healthily.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean what an ending.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is like in my Top three
Speaker 2: dinner table, well not dinner table, but Top three, like
Speaker 2: tension filled scenes at a table with people across reach.
Speaker 4: Like it kind of showdown. Yeah, Okay, what are your
Speaker 4: other two?
Speaker 2: My other two would be Karen Page and Wesley and Daredevil.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's just incredible. And then and also I know,
Speaker 2: you know, not a huge Johnny Depth fan, but Black
Speaker 2: Mass Oh yeah, yeah, when he's talking about the family
Speaker 2: secret family recipe another one of my favorite scenes in
Speaker 2: like a crime mop movie Rosie.
Speaker 1: To rep up. We wanted to touch a little bit
Speaker 1: on season two. We want to keep it spoiler free.
Speaker 1: We're gonna cover it on the show when it comes out,
Speaker 1: of course, But you have had the privilege of seeing
Speaker 1: season two. Anything you wanted to share with us, anything
Speaker 1: you want to tease.
Speaker 3: I have seen season two episode one. Okay, I got
Speaker 3: to see it on a big cinema screen. I was
Speaker 3: feeling very lucky. What I will say is that it
Speaker 3: is unbelievably action packed.
Speaker 4: It has fantastic music, as you expect.
Speaker 3: It is honestly, like really got wrenching stuff, and I
Speaker 3: think interestingly, it does have a slightly different feel than
Speaker 3: season one, which I think is purposeful. You know, they've
Speaker 3: talked about how they always knew what the ending was
Speaker 3: going to be for season two and how the show
Speaker 3: was going to end interesting. But yeah, I mean it's fantastic.
Speaker 3: I think you guys are going to probably love it,
Speaker 3: and I think for me, the thing that I was
Speaker 3: most relieved about was just like the importance of v
Speaker 3: and Jinx's relationship is still like at the center of
Speaker 3: the show, you know, even when we're going into this
Speaker 3: more grand, explosive war show. And also I didn't get
Speaker 3: to see this, but there's a great interview on Netflix's
Speaker 3: website to them where they basically do kind of like
Speaker 3: trade style interviews where they were just saying, like, the
Speaker 3: biggest thing is how much the world is going to expand,
Speaker 3: which I'm like really excited for. And also as well,
Speaker 3: in the first episode you do get a lot of
Speaker 3: people's decisions and how they led us to where we
Speaker 3: got to in the finale and dealing with the ramifications
Speaker 3: of the people who got us to this point. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think the episode is going to blow people.
Speaker 1: What a himerding or an echo up to? Any updates
Speaker 1: why they up to?
Speaker 3: That's the stuff I really can't spoil. That's the really
Speaker 3: big stuff.
Speaker 2: Is it a full season drop, No, it's three separate acts.
Speaker 1: It's going to come out in Jake good Well, you know.
Speaker 3: I think that's definitely the way they should do it.
Speaker 3: I think they know they have a massive hit on
Speaker 3: their hands. So yeah, November ninth, sixteenth, and twenty third,
Speaker 3: turn off all your lights, make your TV to the
Speaker 3: perfect you know parameters, and just really enjoy watching it.
Speaker 4: And I'm so glad that you guys have covered the
Speaker 4: whole season.
Speaker 3: I really hope this is going to make people check
Speaker 3: it out or rewatch it before season two comes out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, A boo, do you have two three minutes?
Speaker 2: What are you hoping for from season two? What would
Speaker 2: you like to see?
Speaker 1: Honestly, what Rosie said makes me incredibly excited. I want
Speaker 1: to see the world get bigger. As much as I
Speaker 1: love Piltover, as much as I love the under City.
Speaker 1: We really stuck in one location, which played to its
Speaker 1: drength for season one, but we got hints right and
Speaker 1: Bessa coming in from across the ocean quote unquote whatever
Speaker 1: that means. Across the sea means there are other nations
Speaker 1: out there. There are nations that are dangerous to in Bessa,
Speaker 1: and she needs war weapons to fight them. So I'm
Speaker 1: a bit of a lord junkie. I'm a world building junkie.
Speaker 1: I love that sort of thing in my storytelling, and
Speaker 1: it's exciting Rosie to hear that. It seems like I'm
Speaker 1: going to be getting a bit more of that zooming out.
Speaker 4: I think that's definitely going to be happening.
Speaker 2: Also, I'm excited that maybe we don't spend the entire
Speaker 2: time in Piltover solely in the council chambers. Now, oh baby,
Speaker 2: because they've been potentially blown up, I can.
Speaker 3: Definitely say that I think you are going to see
Speaker 3: more of Piltova.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: Nice. Also, like I mentioned earlier, I really would like
Speaker 2: there to be some kind of big bad, you know,
Speaker 2: something that maybe brings some people together. And one of
Speaker 2: my favorite things again with Game of Thrones is like
Speaker 2: the switching up of character pairings and so you have
Speaker 2: different people with different people, and the Avengers movies do
Speaker 2: this too. I would like to see a little bit
Speaker 2: of Obviously we're going to get some Calin and Violet together,
Speaker 2: but let's see, you know, we got a little bit
Speaker 2: with Violt and Jay's fighting together. Let's get Kaitlin with
Speaker 2: someone else. I'm all aboard the Echo and himer Dinger move.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I need to see himer Dinger shred some
Speaker 1: rails on a hoverboard. I needed. I need to see
Speaker 1: him doing Olympic tricks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So, of the three of us, if we're
Speaker 2: going to go play the game right now, which character
Speaker 2: would you play us? I would play as jinx Aboo Jace.
Speaker 2: He's like, where's the DLC shirtless skin? That's so strange?
Speaker 2: I don't have it.
Speaker 3: I know. He's like, is this like bold can?
Speaker 1: Like I was doing some research. They did add Arcane
Speaker 1: TV show skins to the game. You can play these
Speaker 1: characters in the outfits from the show.
Speaker 3: That's I did.
Speaker 2: I saw some tweet that was like, those of you
Speaker 2: who've never played Legal Legends, you don't know how lucky
Speaker 2: you are that you were first introduced to Caitlin through
Speaker 2: the arcade show design versus her design in the game.
Speaker 3: Design in the game is so derayed.
Speaker 2: She looks like a clown.
Speaker 3: She looks like an evil clown from like a Halloween
Speaker 3: movie or something like really bad. Yes, okay, Aaron, who
Speaker 3: would you be inger? Oh?
Speaker 2: I would want to? I would yet, Yeah, I want
Speaker 2: to see what he does. Thank you everyone for listening.
Speaker 2: Coming up on X ray, we're diving into the Penguin
Speaker 2: finale on Monday, and then Tuesday we're going to be
Speaker 2: talking about the first act of Arcane season two.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's already happened.
Speaker 2: And on future episodes of extras, Aboo is going to
Speaker 2: be leading us through an upcoming TV show, Doom Prophecy. Right,
Speaker 2: we'll be having Joel Carmen, Rosie Jason and if there
Speaker 2: are certain things you would like us to cover, please
Speaker 2: let us know in the discord. Yeah, if there's some
Speaker 2: topic that you feel like X ray hasn't had a
Speaker 2: chance to cover because there's literally too much content out
Speaker 2: there for us to do in two episodes a week,
Speaker 2: send us a message over in the discord.
Speaker 3: Yes, my gut says, we will get lots of doctor
Speaker 3: who requests and I know that's summing me and Joe
Speaker 3: Well are excited to talk about so fingers crossed.
Speaker 4: Maybe you hear something about that soon.
Speaker 1: That's right, Okay, that's today's episode. Rosie, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining us. It was fun to have Mom
Speaker 1: at the dinner table today.
Speaker 3: It was so great. I'm glad we could all have
Speaker 3: fun and we didn't kill anyone that's at the dinner table,
Speaker 3: so really success.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that's all for today, Thanks for listening.
Speaker 5: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Gisubsion and Rosie
Speaker 5: Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive
Speaker 5: producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer
Speaker 5: is a Booze Afar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent and
Speaker 5: Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez.
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