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Speaker 1: Today's episode contains spoilers for Arcane episodes eight and nine

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Speaker 1: and the entirety of season one, because that's the entirety

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Speaker 1: of season one. Hi, folks, I'm a Boo and I'm Aaron,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to x ray Vision Extras and x ray

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Speaker 1: Vision Series, where we dive deep into even more of

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Speaker 1: your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. Every superhero

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Speaker 1: team needs side quests, and our rotating panel of producers

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Speaker 1: and guest hosts will be suiting up to help Jason

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Speaker 1: and Rosie cover all of the amazing nerd content out.

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Speaker 2: There, except we have a little bit of a reversal here. Instead,

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Speaker 2: today we have Rosie here to help us cover at

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Speaker 2: the end of Arcane Season one. Rosie, how are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I am so excited to be here. You guys have

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Speaker 3: been killing it with these extras episodes, and I'm just

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because spoiler alert, you've seen the first.

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Speaker 4: I've seen the first episode.

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Speaker 3: I got to watch it at Netflix on a massive

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Speaker 4: About that too.

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Speaker 2: That would be exact a boo. How do you watch this?

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Speaker 2: What screen are you watching on?

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Speaker 1: I watch it on a mid range fifty five inch

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Speaker 3: fifty five inch Visyo TV, but you know, it looks beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It does, and it sounds spectacular too. Well, before we

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Speaker 1: get caught up on what your relationship is with this

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Speaker 1: Yes, groundbreaking, the animation, the music, everything coming together in

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Speaker 2: We open on a flashback to Mel's childhood in an

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Speaker 1: and he sees blood everywhere, and he confronts Singed with

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00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: a blade. What did you do to her? And Sin says,

437
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: I saved your life. From there we join We joined

438
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: our guy Heimerdinger. What is he doing? What's he doing

439
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 1: this is the most confounding part of these last two

440
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: episodes for me. Heimerdinger is wandering through the under City.

441
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: He is shocked to find it lawless and the citizen's unhappy.

442
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 3: Really, I'm like, bro, just listen to any one person.

443
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: Just just have a Conbob, all right.

444
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 2: This is a little able us here. Heimerdinger is incredibly short,

445
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 2: his legs are very small. It takes him a lot

446
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: longer to get to the under City, and we've seen

447
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: how much Parkour went into getting down there, So I

448
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm going to give him a break because

449
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 2: he's got that mustache.

450
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe he could have had some other

451
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 3: people going down there for him, bringing up, you know,

452
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 3: information and kind of messengers. I don't think he's doing

453
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 3: his due diligence.

454
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 4: If this is like a surprise to.

455
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: Him, Yes, absolutely agreed, especially considering you're the father of

456
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,719
Speaker 1: Peltover founded this city. I'm saying, you don't know what

457
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: the how the other half is living. You've never crossed

458
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: the bridge. It's absolutely wild to me. But he is

459
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: shocked by this experience. He even meets this young girl

460
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: who gives him some gears and spare parts that she found.

461
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: He turns it into a cute little top for her

462
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: before her mother rushes her away. Don't talk to strangers

463
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: in the under City, clearly. Heimer Dinger then stumbles upon

464
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: a firelight board one of the hoverboards, and it turns

465
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: out it's Echoes. Echo has been hiding underneath the bridge

466
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: after the explosion. He's injured, he's sprained his ankle. He's

467
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: having a tough time figuring out how he's going to

468
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 1: get back home, and so heimer Dinger and Echo team up.

469
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: Himerdinger's going to hope that go get home.

470
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Speaker 2: I have no good transition to this because we just

471
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: went in this incredible scene in the under City, and

472
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: now we go to am Bessa spread Eagle in the

473
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: spa with her tasty tree behind her, very witcher of her, Yes,

474
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: oh my god, yes, very. She's also she is the

475
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: most Garald have all the characters in this show? Yeah, sure,

476
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: definitely Garalt Gerald, Gerald, Gerald, Do.

477
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: We all three of us say it three different ways?

478
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 4: How do you say it?

479
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: Gerald? Of Rivia?

480
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: I thought it was Garl? Yeah, what did I say?

481
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: You said?

482
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 2: Garlt? Stay tuned for an extra's episode where we all

483
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: just try to pronounce names incorrectly, clearly, and Bessa is

484
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 2: sitting in the spa, enjoying the perks of the city,

485
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 2: and she's lecturing to Jace, but she he's very uncomfortable.

486
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 2: He understands who she is. He's trying to be polite,

487
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 2: but she has absolutely no qualms about striding out of

488
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: the water, completely nude and threatening Jace. And I love

489
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: this scene, in particular the backdrop it's set against, with

490
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: this painting of an army all with their spears pointed

491
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: in to this exact spot that Jace is standing.

492
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: From there, we cut to Caitlin and Vibe and the council.

493
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: They're about to present to the council. Caitlyn makes her pitch.

494
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: She says, look, I went to the under city. Violet

495
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: showed me around. People are sick, they're starving, they're ravaged

496
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: by Shimmer. They're under the thumb of warlords like Silko.

497
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: And Silko is out here on a mission to make

498
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: Zoon independent. He wants to split the city into Jace

499
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: immediately wants to go down their guns blazing. He wants

500
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: to meet force with force. Stupid Mel trying to calm

501
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: him down, urges him to reconsider again. She says Jace,

502
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: you don't know war like I do. War should be

503
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: our absolute last resort. So she proposes that we negotiate

504
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: with Silko. We got to find a diplomatic solution here,

505
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: which triggers Violet. She is not interested in negotiating with

506
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: a man who killed her father and ruined her life

507
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: and took her sister, and she explodes on the council

508
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: and storms out of the room. Caitlyn rushes after Violet

509
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: and tries to console her in the rain.

510
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 4: In the rain, very romantic.

511
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: Very romantic. They're both soaking wet. But we tried. It

512
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: wasn't enough. Top side and bottom oil and water. That

513
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: is what Violet tells Caitlin. This isn't going to happen.

514
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: We were foolish to even try. Why did we think

515
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: anyone would listen to us? Where incompatible? The top side

516
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: the under city are incompatible. It's never going to work out.

517
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: Caitlin obviously heartbroken by this, but Violet says, just forget

518
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: about me, go back to your giant home and your

519
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: rich parents. It was never meant to be between us.

520
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

521
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: I love this because it's such a great moment of well,

522
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 3: there's no easy answers. Yeah, you know, I think everybody

523
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 3: who watches this scene there's probably at least five or

524
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 3: six different reactions of like, oh, well I would do this,

525
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 3: and they should do that. I think something they do

526
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 3: in these final two episodes it's really smart. Is they

527
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 3: really zoom in and go on to like a micro

528
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 3: level of this relationship between Caitlin and Vi, and that

529
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: is what your focus is on. And then when everything explodes,

530
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: you realize that there's so much you know, you've been

531
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 3: sucked into this relationship between these two characters that you

532
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 3: care that you almost think about the fate of the

533
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 3: city as like secondary. Yeah, but at the same time,

534
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: Caitlin and VI's struggles are like representative of the city.

535
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 3: So I just think it's such a clever scene in

536
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 3: a clever way to make us almost forget about the

537
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 3: macro of the show, which and then when you get

538
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: to the finale, in the final moments, you realize what

539
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: everything's going to change. Yeah, there's no coming back.

540
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: And to your point, Rosie, their relationship also exists within

541
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: the context of the city, within the critical context of

542
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: the city. So as much as you want to forget

543
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: and live in like a fairy tale world where people

544
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: like Caitlin and Vi can be together. The show doesn't

545
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: let you forget that oil and water, you and I

546
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: come from different universes. This is very Romeo and Juliet.

547
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: This is just not going to happen because of the

548
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: world we live in, and unless things dramatically change, people

549
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: like us can never actually live happily ever after.

550
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great storytell I do kind of wish

551
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 2: that the show gave us one character that could vocalize

552
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: a little more eloquently the desire to keep the two

553
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: parts of the city separate, because right now we just

554
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 2: have it as kind of the straw man, like we

555
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: know segregation is bad, we should be helping the under city.

556
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: And so it almost seems like, okay, yeah, we have

557
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: these cartoonish members of the council who you know, are

558
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: eating the nuts, and then he gives the councilman for

559
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: his birthday like an open bag of nuts that he's

560
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: allergic to. These guys are all idiots. Yeah, they're the

561
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: only ones that are like, no, we have to oppress

562
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: the under city. There's no one that I care about

563
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 2: who's of that mindset. And yet it still feels like

564
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: such this mood within Piltover. I mean, Heimerdinger's already down

565
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: in the under city, Caitlin has been wanting to visit,

566
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: and she's there fighting with Violet. Nobody is actively trying

567
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: to prevent this from happening on that side that we

568
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: care about, and so it just feels a little I

569
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: do wish we had one person who was vocalizing that

570
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: a little.

571
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but maybe the reason that they can't have a

572
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: character like that is because there's just no good reason

573
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: for it. Yeah, do you know what I mean, Like

574
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: how it is in real life where it's like nobody

575
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: can really explain why something should be segregated because they

576
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: would sound like a cartoonish idiot villain because it shouldn't be.

577
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: I would say, as like, from a storytelling perspective, it

578
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: could be pretty cool to have almost like some populist

579
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: who is vocalizing that and trying to rally people around.

580
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 4: So I could definitely see a way it could fit in.

581
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's also a combination of war, Like

582
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: we won the war. These people were our enemies at

583
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: one point, and we're not trying to get in another fight,

584
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: so let's make sure that we keep them beneath us.

585
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: But also I think it's also a bit of like

586
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 1: we forgot about them, like we beat them up, and

587
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: then they just kind of exist over there, and we

588
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: can pretend they don't exist because we won and now

589
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: they're not our problem, and all the economic and technological

590
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: prosperity that we have we don't have to share. We

591
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: get to just ignore these people. And because of that,

592
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: people like Silko and many of the under city residents

593
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: we see singed suffer because they don't at the same

594
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: sort of amenities and benefits that someone had Piltover might. Yeah,

595
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: so I think it is a natural, just like result

596
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: of a war progressing into stagnation, progressing into ignoring a

597
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: certain group of people.

598
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: Someone who is definitely not stagnating. We cut to Victor,

599
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: who has a brand new leg thanks to his hex

600
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: Tech and shimmer combination, and he starts walking and then

601
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: he ditches the cane and he's walking without the cane,

602
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: and then he breaks into a full on forest gum

603
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: sprint and he's going for it. Hot Lab assistant Sky

604
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: is building up the courage to talk to Victor. Now

605
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: you know, she has her own little experiment. She wants

606
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: to work on and he's inspired her, but she walks

607
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: in on him performing new horrendous Hextech shimmer body modifications,

608
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: and suddenly the hex Tech Corps is pulling him in

609
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: and he can't escape it, and she goes to try

610
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: to help him, and oh my gosh, why do the

611
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: good die young? She winds up being vaporized and up

612
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: to find her glasses.

613
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: Horror fur Ip to the Hot Lab assistance Rip. I

614
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: do mean it, but I think that it's very complex

615
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: to have a technology that essentially can be seen as

616
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 3: like a cure to a disability. And I'm always slightly

617
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: nervy when I'm like somebody who is using a cane

618
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: and then suddenly they're running like magical disability cure.

619
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 4: But I think something they.

620
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: Do here that is really scary and necessary is they

621
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: then show that actually this isn't some great thing that's

622
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: completely safe, Like you're taking risks, you're making a choice,

623
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: and that choice ends up with this like really horrible aftermath,

624
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: which I found to be very sad and moving, but

625
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: also like a really interesting side effect.

626
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point. Next we cut back to Jase.

627
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: He's back in the Forge.

628
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: He just so you know, we've organized the recap so

629
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: that a boot can do all the thirsty bits on Jase.

630
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's why we're here, right, this is

631
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: why we're here.

632
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 4: I'm proud of you.

633
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: I'm proud of you.

634
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: Fortunately he's got his shirt on this time around, now

635
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: pull up. No pull ups. No female gaze in this

636
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: scene for sure, just Jase angry in the forge, working

637
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: on stuff, clearly crafting the hammer we will shortly see

638
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: at the end of this episode. Violet shows up to

639
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: offer him a way to fight back against Silkoe. You

640
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: want to actually do something about this. You're the only

641
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: one who is talking reasonable at that council meeting. Let's

642
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: go you and me. We can take care of this.

643
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: Violet reaches for the apparently non weaponized the gloves that

644
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: are not weaponized, gloves that are only meant for mining

645
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: and crushing rocks and not human skulls.

646
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: And they don't look at all familiar or like this

647
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: is an important moment for her character, right, she.

648
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: Puts that glove on. She comments how someone she once

649
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: knew had similar power gloves like this that were meant

650
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: for fighting, not for mining rocks, and she suggests Hey, Jace,

651
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: you and me. We hit him fast, we hit him hard,

652
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: we hit him wear it hurts. Let's go take out

653
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: the Shimmer manufacturing facilities and that is how we take

654
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: down Soilco. And she raises one gloved hand and says,

655
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: we got a deal, pretty boy. And I love this scene.

656
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: Not only was it really gorgeous, just a lot of

657
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: really beautiful shots and lighting in this scene, but I

658
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: also just liked thematically that it took place in a

659
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: forge because we're watching two of the most hot headed

660
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: and most brash characters in this season teaming up and

661
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: deciding to do something super hot headed and brash, and

662
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: the temperature is heating up.

663
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: So Jase agrees and jas his hammer. An entire army

664
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: of enforcers arrive at one of the manufacturing facilities. One

665
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: kid breaks free to sound the alarm and we see

666
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: the guards awaken and the guards are these shimmer infused

667
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: people that are in hyper armor with Deadpool fist blades,

668
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: and this is X Men origins Wolverine Deadpool, not the

669
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: New Deadpool. And then these really fast flying armored guards

670
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: are coming in and then Violet shows up with her

671
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: fists and she starts tag teaming these big daddies with Jace,

672
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: and in the fight, Jace accidentally shoots the young boy

673
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: who had hit the alarm and he falls a terrifyingly

674
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: long way down to his death. The guards are all dead,

675
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: the fight is over. Jace is one, Violet is one.

676
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: But Jace realizes that he is. He looks around and

677
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: he's invaded a factory full of children. So I guess,

678
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: on the one hand, it's not like he killed the

679
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: only kid that was there.

680
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: He just.

681
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 4: Killed one of many kids.

682
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: Yes, one of many. So one of my big ripes

683
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: again as someone who is not a Jace apologist. So

684
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: he's just spent his time studying and then on the council.

685
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: Every once in a while he goes and does some

686
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: pull ups and he's suddenly like the best fighter.

687
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 4: You don't think there's been enough training montages.

688
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, what if instead of them in the forge, what

689
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: if Jace was at a punching bag and Violet comes

690
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: and meets him there or something. It just it was

691
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: also like in terms of a video game, both of

692
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: these characters are full glass cannons. They have no armor,

693
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: no protective things whatsoever. I guess like a hammer that

694
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: also is a bazooka. Like, maybe you just deal with

695
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: things at range, you don't need a ton of armor.

696
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: But it was a little much for me to be like,

697
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: here these.

698
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: Aaron was saying, this was very badly thought out.

699
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 4: Where was the strategy, right right?

700
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: Yes, well you know as well, maybe you don't really

701
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 3: need armor. Maybe it was just a fluke because they

702
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 3: were actually like attacking a place full of children. They

703
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: didn't really need a arm off. Right, that's bleak, Right,

704
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 3: it's bleak, but true, Right.

705
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: None of those baby punches were ever gonna get through.

706
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, oh that is so so so bleak. They

707
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: should have thought this through. But again, I think this

708
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 3: is like one of the best things about this show

709
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 3: is that complexity of like, hey, yeah, you're gonna root

710
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: for them, They're gonna go take down on the Shim effactory?

711
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 4: Did it do?

712
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 3: But again, things are never that simple. Actually, the people

713
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: who are working the Shimer factory are child enslaved children

714
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: who are being forced to work, who are likely addicted

715
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: to shimmer as well. And actually, war is not some

716
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: simple thing where there's always bad guys that you can kill. Actually,

717
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: you have to go into this with more insight and

718
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: more information. Obviously, we know that Jason is going to

719
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: be haunted by what he has done, especially because, like

720
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 3: you said that, he doesn't really know war, right, but

721
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: now he's killing children, So it's been a bad day

722
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: for him. I think this is going to be like

723
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: a very hardcore change moment for him and a realization

724
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 3: of these things are.

725
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: Just not that simple.

726
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it shows what a lack of restraint can

727
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: lead to.

728
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 4: Exactly.

729
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: He ran in there literally hammer and guns blazing, without

730
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: all the information. He didn't ask who's in this facility,

731
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: what's the game plan? He just decided, let's just take

732
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: some enforcers and blow this thing up. Yeah, without knowing

733
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 1: the full picture and realizing that these facilities are staffed

734
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: by children.

735
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 4: Exactly.

736
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: He certainly wouldn't have done this if he hadn't taken

737
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: the time to hit pause and think about it and

738
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: learn before jumping in there.

739
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: So Jay's famous for hitting pause and thinking about it.

740
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: I think it just speaks to a lot of the

741
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: older generation in this show that has warned these younger

742
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: kids from running in without thinking first. Vander Heimerdinger, There

743
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: have been a number of characters that have warned them.

744
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: Silko have warned the children to not run in and

745
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: think first because of their experience, their own mistakes they've

746
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: made in the past, and we see that repetition that

747
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: like infinite cycle of violence where they continue to repeat

748
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: these mistakes.

749
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: The big takeaway from this episode is there needs to

750
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 4: be a compromise. Yes, I am a pacifist.

751
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: I do not agree with a war, but I do

752
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: agree with people being able to live well and needing

753
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 3: to fight for that right. So like, yeah, I just

754
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 3: think it's really complex, and I'm very excited to see

755
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 3: what they do going into season two after this, because

756
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be way more complicated than

757
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: even this first season.

758
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, well let's wrap up episode eight

759
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: one final scenes ago. Caitlin is in the shower and

760
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: she's replaying that moment with Violet walking away from her

761
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: in the rain, obviously still on her mind, and she

762
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: turns the shower off, steps out, and the steam starts

763
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: to dissipate and over her shoulder in a very horror

764
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: movie moment.

765
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, this is so I love this moment so much.

766
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: We see Jinks just a glowing Jinx eye in the mirror.

767
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: Got to credits scary, scary stuff.

768
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: Scary stuff. And that's episode eight. So before we continue

769
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: on with our recap in our discussion today with episode nine, guys,

770
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: let's take a quick breather, let's collect ourselves. This is

771
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: the final episode of season one that we're about to

772
00:38:51,160 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: get into. Right after a short break.

773
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 2: All right, we are back with episode nine. The monster

774
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: you created.

775
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 3: Oh, get ready to cry? Get ready to cry, guys.

776
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 2: We open with mister Patience himself, Jace mourning the loss

777
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: of the young boy.

778
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 3: I was so sick of him in this moment. I

779
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, yeah, dah. You honestly, if

780
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: you just turned this episode on because you wanted to

781
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 3: recap the finale before you watch season two and you

782
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 3: couldn't really remember, you would be mistaken to think that

783
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 3: maybe Jace was just mourning a random kid who had

784
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 3: died and not somebody he had killed.

785
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: Jace, what the fuckme? Man?

786
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 2: Truly, in his defense, the only time you'll ever hear

787
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: me say that he wants out already. He's involved now,

788
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: and he's like, we need to stop this. Violet reminds

789
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: him that he's always been involved, he just was ignoring

790
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: it before, which was his luxury that he got to

791
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: do great line, thanks to Silko, and thanks to everyone

792
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: who's ignored Silko and just let this occur. Hundreds of

793
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: other kids are in this exact same position, and Violet's

794
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 2: not giving up. She's like, I'm still doing this. You're

795
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: in this, come on, let's go finish this. And he's like, no,

796
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: leave the gloves and she's like, well, obviously I'm not

797
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: going to do that, and he's like, he's like, well,

798
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 2: I'm not killing someone else today.

799
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 3: So it's like, have you played the game?

800
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you don't do equip things. As you get

801
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: more and more close to the final boss fight, Jace

802
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: doesn't want to kill anyone else, but he warns her.

803
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: He's like, you're not going to make it on your own,

804
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: and before she leaves, she turns and she punches the

805
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: Shimmer tank, ruining the Shimmer production. At least they got that,

806
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 2: I guess.

807
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: I'm like sure, I'm honestly, I I I'm not into

808
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: you this war on drugs that you have going on, Like,

809
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the most sensible or I

810
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 3: understand that you have an issue with Silko, but I

811
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: don't know if it's going to solve the greater socioeconomic

812
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 3: issues that we are striving with here, I feel like

813
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: they're ways that you could spend your energy. And I

814
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: do feel like, as Aaron pointed out, rare to hear

815
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: me say it, I do think Jason's right here. I

816
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: do think he has learned the lesson. It shouldn't have

817
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 3: cost the life of a child, but he is seen

818
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: in the most horrible way what war can do.

819
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 4: The problem here is.

820
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: By does not learn that lesson, like Viya is still

821
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 3: really driven by revenge. Whatever version of the world that

822
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 3: she is selling, This idea that she can stop Silko

823
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: is really more about revenge than making the world better

824
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: for anyone else.

825
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: Violet's mind on everything was made up the day she

826
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: went to prison exactly. Has not changed since then, except

827
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: that she is friends with Caitlin. Like she's let herself

828
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: get that far. But it took her almost dying for that.

829
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it also took her having a crush. Yeah,

830
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean?

831
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 2: Like you needed to, I've been in prison a long time.

832
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: We can all change our mind. When there's like a

833
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 3: beautiful rich woman being like, Hi, would you like to

834
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: how's it going?

835
00:41:59,239 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: And suddenly you're like.

836
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 2: To seek into my parents' house.

837
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe this seems a bit more feeling them present.

838
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Siko who I will say I loved this opening

839
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: scene because of what it says about the socioeconomic divide

840
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: between the Upper City and Lower City. Jase here has

841
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: the privilege to say this is over. I don't want

842
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: to I'm walking away. I don't want to be involved.

843
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 3: It's still happening.

844
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: Suh. Right, there's blood on his hands, but he gets

845
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: to wipe them off and go back to the council

846
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: chamber and his bougie apartment in the Upper City and

847
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: forget about this.

848
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

849
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: I loved that. Violet in response was but this isn't

850
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: over for me. It's never been over for me. I

851
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: live here, this is my life. I don't get to

852
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: wipe my hands and walk away and ignore it.

853
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: Jase doesn't have an issue with the fact that there

854
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 2: are hundreds of kids working there. Jase has an issue

855
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 2: with the fact that he killed one of them.

856
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I'm like, Jase, that you could do something

857
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 3: to help these kids. Yeah, I mean, that's like help

858
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 3: the kids escape. That seems like it would be a

859
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: useful thing to do. I like that line of Booty

860
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: you put it in the notes. Right, It's like you've

861
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: always been a part of this, You've just never had

862
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 3: to look at in the eye.

863
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 4: Right, It's like such a good line.

864
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 3: Like you can say, oh, I don't want to deal

865
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: with homeless people, Well, you they're there every day, Like

866
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 3: what do you mean, Like you could just help them out,

867
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: like just but you get to choose to ignore them

868
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 3: when you walk past. It's very much that mentality, which

869
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: I do think honestly is one of Jase's biggest flaws.

870
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to be fair, a lot of the Upper

871
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: Cities flaws. You know, they get to pretend the under

872
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: city doesn't exist.

873
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: That's basically their original sin.

874
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Okay. Continuing with the recap, we then

875
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: cut to Sevika and Silka, who are in this manufacturing

876
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: plant investigating what happened. It turns out that the boy

877
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: that Jay's killed isn't just some rando kid. He's in

878
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: fact the son of Rennie, who is one of the

879
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: members of the Kem Barons that works closely with Silko.

880
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: Rennie is understandably grieving the death of her Son's pissed,

881
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: and she argues that none of this would have happened.

882
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: The Upper City would never have been so bold if

883
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: Marcus were still alive. And Marcus is dead because of

884
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: your daughter, who's out of control? Silko? Where is CHINX?

885
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: What's going on? Have you reined her in? Are you

886
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: gonna do anything about my dead boy here? She's understandably

887
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: pissed about all of this.

888
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: Also, I'm like, babe, you are correct, but like, why

889
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: was he working there? You are like the back I question,

890
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 3: do just like don't have him working there?

891
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 4: Like sorry, but maybe just don't do that.

892
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: Maybe you know what, Maybe she was in some kind

893
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 3: of debt, Maybe that was something a reason. But like

894
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 3: I feel like one of the few pucks of being

895
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: a Ken Baron is your son probably shouldn't have to

896
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: do like indentured servitude the Shima factory.

897
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: That was my question.

898
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 3: Well you know what I will say, he does the

899
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: kid who died RP to that boy like this is

900
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 3: a legendary action movie position is to be the kid

901
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: who is the spy who announces when somebody is coming in.

902
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: It happens in dread, it happens in the rad, it

903
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 3: happens in the night comes for us. So I think,

904
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: you know, maybe he's just a lookout. Maybe he doesn't

905
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: actually work in the Shima factory. Maybe he's got the

906
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 3: higher ranking of the indentured children. But Rennie, I really

907
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: think this one is on you, honestly, Babe. It's obviously

908
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: on Jason mostly, but you could have just let him

909
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: have a day off, right.

910
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 2: Victor awakes, he finds Sky's notes and also a letter

911
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: that she was writing to him. He now feels, you know,

912
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: we see him looking stiff and metallic as opposed to

913
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: this guy who is running, you know, like an olympian

914
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: not too long ago. Last episode, and in anger, he

915
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: decides he wants to try to destroy the hex Core.

916
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: But he lifts his stool up over his head and

917
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: he can't do it, and he's dejected and he starts

918
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: walking away, and then the hex Corps like reacts, oh

919
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: sends a little pulse and it shocks him and he

920
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: falls over, and like suddenly we realize maybe this is

921
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: acting of its own accord.

922
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: Maybe I was gonna say, can we talk a little

923
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: bit about that, because if you don't know the law

924
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: of the Games, or really about Hexcore, I felt like

925
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: this was a very shocking moment we've got hints of

926
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 3: this connection of science and magic and what it means.

927
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, this implies some kind of sentience, yeah, or

928
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 3: that it is even actually exerting its will over him.

929
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: So this feels like a big deal going into season two.

930
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: So I don't know enough about the game or season two,

931
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: but in my head, one of the great great shows

932
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 2: of all time, Game of Thrones does an incredible job

933
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: of making you care about every character but also hate

934
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: every character because there's also some impending threat with the

935
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: White Walkers that are coming. No matter what, everyone can

936
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: dislike that, and so I do think you know is

937
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: the hex core. In the trailer, there's a line cover

938
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: yours real quickly if you don't want any spoilers from

939
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: the trailer. But in the trailer there's a line that

940
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 2: the Arcane has awoken. Are we getting Is that gonna

941
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: be our White Walkers coming? And if so, this is

942
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 2: the first moment when I've cared about this storyline as

943
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: much as I cared about the Inner City and violence storyline,

944
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: and I up until now it's just been like the

945
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: I know this is building to something, but what is it?

946
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: This moment, this one little scene is when I feel

947
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: it the most, all right.

948
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: Moving on to the next scene, mel confronts her mother

949
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: and Bessa. She tells her to stay away from Jase.

950
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: She's like, stop being in the bath with Jase.

951
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: It's I heard you were naked around my boyfriend. She

952
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: tells Abssa to just leave the city. Why are you

953
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: even here and an Bessa finally reveals the truth of

954
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: this visit. She says, uh, we are in trouble. The

955
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: man who killed her brother thinks the score is not

956
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: settled and is coming after me, coming after you, And

957
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: in fact, we uh don't have the resources to fight him,

958
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: and so I'm here basically for hex Tech. I want

959
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: hex Tech. I want hex Tech weapons.

960
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: Besa, you suck, you a bad Truly, you're a bad

961
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 3: a bad mom.

962
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: Mel Is, you know, understandably shocked and worried and angry

963
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: at her mother about all of this, and tells her,

964
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to protect this city from people

965
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: like you. I can't believe you'd start a war, that

966
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: you'd let this war take place just so you could

967
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: get some weaponry for your own to save your own

968
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: ass and am Bessa's response, I would set the world

969
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: a blaze to protect our family, which.

970
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 3: Please, your son is already dead, so too late, babe, Like,

971
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: this is not really about protecting your family. I feel

972
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: like at this point it's about protecting you.

973
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 4: Yes, and your.

974
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: Interest absolutely a total cop out, but Invessa doubles down

975
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: on this line of thinking and tries to convince Mel

976
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: to come home with the hex Tech. Who cares about Piltover,

977
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: who cares about Zoon? Who are these people to you?

978
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 1: Let's just take the hex Tech, let this war play out.

979
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: You come back be at my side where you belong.

980
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: Classic.

981
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: I will also say, as much as Ambassa sucks as

982
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 3: like a person, she has such a badass character design.

983
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: I just love it so much. She has got that

984
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 3: classic energy actually of a Game of Thrones character who

985
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 3: you're gonna hate right now. But then if you did

986
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: a spin off and you went back and you saw

987
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 3: where Ambassa's from, and you saw everything she's doing and

988
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 3: the people she's protecting, you'd be like, oh, actually, she's

989
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: pretty cool, Like she had a reason for doing this.

990
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: I feel like she has that potential.

991
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 3: But right now I'm on the Hatter side, But I

992
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: do believe there's more to her than we have seen.

993
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: Agreed.

994
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: I just you know, mel I feel like and Bessa

995
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: carried you for nine months, can't you carry her for

996
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: one war?

997
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: Come on?

998
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 3: You know, Aaron said, she blessed you with the gift

999
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 3: of life, So bless her with the gift of exta

1000
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: for the gift of death.

1001
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Victor goes back to his favorite little

1002
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: spot in the sewer in the under City, spreading Sky's

1003
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: ashes in the pools where he goes, thanks. Yeah, He's like,

1004
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: I don't know where he wanted to be buried or

1005
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 2: have your ashes. I'm going to put you in the sewer. Yeah,

1006
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put you in the super swear. Anyways, he's

1007
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: back to using his crutch and he standing there contemplating jumping,

1008
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 2: and Jason interrupts him in a nice little chase of

1009
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 2: their their very first scene together, and the two of

1010
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: them are there reminiscing about old times, you know, before

1011
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: you killed a kid and before I killed house. Yeah,

1012
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: what could have possibly been the issue here? And Victor

1013
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: asks Jace to destroy the hex core and he was like,

1014
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: I can't do it. You have to please, And Jace

1015
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 2: is really hesitant because he's a company man, but he

1016
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: promises that he's going to do it, Like, is that logical?

1017
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 2: Is that logic?

1018
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: You also have a really great quote in our notes

1019
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: here that I wanted to share it because it really resonated.

1020
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 1: We lost ourselves, we lost our dream in the pursuit

1021
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: of great, we failed to do good. We have to

1022
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: make it right.

1023
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 3: I love that. I think this is very good comparative

1024
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: analogous to like nuclear weaponry is very much like why

1025
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 3: here where it's this, we need to do it first,

1026
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: we need to be the ones to achieve it, and

1027
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: then you do something that's so unbelievably horrific. Once you

1028
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: have done it and you lose control of it.

1029
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, And it's a good reversal too. I mean,

1030
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: this scene here is reminiscent of the first time Victor

1031
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: and Jace meet in Jace's apartment, but also when Victor

1032
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: and Heimerdinger are here, when Victor first gets his diagnosis

1033
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: and Heimerdinger is like, You're gonna have a great legacy,

1034
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 2: and he's like, I didn't do anything monumental, and now

1035
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: here he is saying trying to do something monumental and

1036
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: legendary is not worth being horrible, and we lost our

1037
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: way along the right.

1038
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: In our next scene, Finn, Rennie, and Sevika come to

1039
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: confront Silko, and Silka reminds them what kept the under

1040
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: City together before it was an enterprise, before he raised

1041
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: it up to what it is now. Loyalty, love.

1042
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Kendrick lamar.

1043
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: Right, all right.

1044
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: Sevika, in a really great tense moment, takes out her sword,

1045
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: swipes right over the head of Silko and kills Finn,

1046
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 1: and then Finn tells Rennie to leave. It's a really

1047
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: great show of Sevika's loyalty and belief in Silko and

1048
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: really subvert sart expectations because we, you know, we expected

1049
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: her to betray him given the scenes we had watched

1050
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: thus far. Sevika actually even tells Silko that no, she

1051
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: wasn't ever tempted by Finn. She would never actually work

1052
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: with a guy like him. His dress code, not my style. Horrible,

1053
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: horrible opinion. Yeah, best design character, hands down. But she

1054
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: does say Silko, buddy like Finn, was not the first

1055
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: and he certainly won't be the last. People are going

1056
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: to question a leadership if things continue to go the

1057
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: way they are. We see Silko then turn his attention

1058
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: back to this letter that he had been reading before,

1059
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: and uh, we learned that this letter is from Jase.

1060
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 4: Shocking.

1061
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: So Soko goes to meet Jase on the ramparts overlooking

1062
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: the coast, and Soko presents his list of demands. He

1063
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: wants free trade, he wants access to the hext gates,

1064
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: and most of all, he wants sovereignty.

1065
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 3: Well, I love that he was like. He just went

1066
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: in and he was like, here's the five top five

1067
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 3: things I want to do, and absolutely none of them

1068
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 3: will ever be approved by the council, like, no compromise.

1069
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 3: He went in there and he was like, the job

1070
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: description says you will pay fifty thousand dollars a year,

1071
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 3: and I want a million.

1072
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 4: What can you do?

1073
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: He didn't even wait for the job description. He went

1074
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: into the interview and was like, this is what I need.

1075
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: Counter my offer exactly. He's setting the.

1076
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: Price, throwing unlimited Popeye's Chicken sandwiches for a life while

1077
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: we're at it.

1078
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, universal income for everyone in the the city. Like

1079
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: it's not going to happen, babe. I love your ambition there.

1080
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 2: Soko thinks that Jase is afraid, but Jay says he's

1081
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: afraid of the carnage that Piltover is going to inflict

1082
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: upon Zon if they don't I don't agree to terms.

1083
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: And he's trying to spare the under city. Come on, man,

1084
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: Jase is.

1085
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 3: Trying to spare himself from having to kill more children than.

1086
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 4: The semi factory.

1087
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 3: Real for real.

1088
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: They're almost at an agreement, but then Jace says he

1089
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 2: wants Jinks, and he's like, believe me, I'd happily throw

1090
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: you in jail, but I can't make a deal with

1091
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 2: a snake and then cut off its head.

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00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: We then cut to Echo and Heimerdinger, who are practically

1093
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: doing nothing. They're just chill in. They're going to the

1094
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: Firelights sanctuary. Heimerdinger once again is like shocked and surprised

1095
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: to find out this is happening in the under City.

1096
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: The most confused little Nordling I've ever seen in my

1097
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: life or whatever he has or forget what his yard ling, Yordling.

1098
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: That's right, and there was a line in here, I

1099
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: will say. Echo says, the line in here very poignant stuff,

1100
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: and it speaks to his personal experiences here in the

1101
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: under City. He says, it's not enough to give people

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00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: what they need to survive. You have to give them

1103
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: what they need to live.

1104
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: And Heimerdinger is like, my dude, I've been to the opera,

1105
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about.

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00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, like you gotta you gotta have those artistic,

1107
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: inspirational tiny opera glasses so you can really see what

1108
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 3: everyone's right. For us to be able to afford our

1109
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: own tiny opera glasses, we need you to listen to

1110
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 3: a message from our sponsors.

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00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 2: That's right, all right, and we are back. Silko is

1112
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: lamenting at the statue of Vander. He's talking to Vander

1113
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: through the statue itself, and he says, you know, he

1114
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: sees how logically he probably should take the deal, but

1115
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: he doesn't know that Jinx is listening. Done dun dumb,

1116
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: and so we cut to the last drop. Violet walks in.

1117
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 2: We get some Western showdown music on the jukebox. Savika

1118
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: tells everyone to get out and fightings and turns out

1119
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: Violet probably could have used a little bit of armor

1120
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 2: after all. Imagine that as Savika has like this pulsing

1121
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: energy blade that comes out of her arm.

1122
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: Mary Mega Man, Yeah, would.

1123
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: Have been nice to have had something. Violet imagines Vander

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00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: coaching her in the fight and pointing out that everyone

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00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: still needs her. She still has a bigger role to

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00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: play here. She's down one power glove because it's been

1127
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: stabbed by Savika's sword. Y shields herself and rips off

1128
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: Savika's modified arm, and she goes to get the broken arm.

1129
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: The fight's over. She goes to get the broken arm,

1130
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: and Jinks appears and knocks her out.

1131
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: Jinks everywhere all at once, this one. I do want

1132
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: to shout out the Silko at the Vander Fountain scene.

1133
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: Never have I felt so much for a villain, for

1134
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: a heinous villain. Him just the I forget what the

1135
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: exact line was, but he said something like, is there

1136
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: anything as so undoing as a daughter or something? Yeah,

1137
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: as a dog, and he sort of he finally seemingly

1138
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: understands where Vander was coming from and why Vander chose

1139
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: his family and his daughters over perhaps the dream that

1140
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: he and Silko had been fighting for ever since they

1141
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: were young, and now here Silko, on the verge of

1142
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: achieving that very dream, finally understands why Vander might have

1143
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: backed off too, because now he's toying with the idea

1144
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: of backing off for his daughter. It's beautiful stuff.

1145
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are a sucker for a Silco and Vandersen.

1146
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: I let me tell you, Oh yeah, you are.

1147
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: I really feel for there if they ever do like

1148
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: a little prolog like backstory one off short episode about

1149
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: Vander and Silko's backstory, like it's gonna get me.

1150
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: Well, I do think as well, Like it's one of

1151
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 3: those really bittersweet things in the show because you just

1152
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: can't help but think, what if Vander wasn't dead?

1153
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: What if?

1154
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 4: What if?

1155
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 3: What would that have looked like if this had come sooner?

1156
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 3: Like what does it mean? And also it's always amazing

1157
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: when you have warring factions that end up coming to

1158
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 3: the same place but too late.

1159
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 4: That's always like a moment.

1160
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you see echoes of Vander, even if we

1161
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: never get the true backstory of their relationship, we see

1162
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: echoes of it in every relationship in this show, Himer,

1163
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: Dinger and j Jason, Victor Van Jinks, Caitlin and Vi,

1164
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: every relationship in every conflict for me at least, seemingly

1165
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: stems back to Vander Silko and the divide between Upper

1166
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: City Lower City. It's beautiful stuff. Okay, back to our recap,

1167
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: Jason Victor appear before the council. Jace, in the Boldest

1168
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: Move ever, just shits on everyone in the council and says,

1169
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: y'all are not fit to lead over zone. We've let

1170
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: them down. This is all our fault, and I've actually

1171
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: taken the step to do something about it. I spoke

1172
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: to Silko directly. We've broke her to piece, and I

1173
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: need everyone to raise their hands and vote yes on

1174
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: this right now. Understandably, the Council's like.

1175
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 3: What the fucking we're talking about?

1176
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,479
Speaker 1: You're like twenty two years old?

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00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 3: Who are you you?

1178
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 4: And also like where did this plan come from?

1179
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 3: How long did you think it out? Did you figure out.

1180
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: Longer than the last plan?

1181
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 3: Whe you ended up killing a kid?

1182
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: Because it doesn't seem like it right?

1183
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: Why is the child killer brokery piece? What are we doing? Well?

1184
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 3: We did?

1185
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna lie.

1186
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 3: I do agree that making peace.

1187
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 4: Is a good idea.

1188
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, should be the aim, But once again, I

1189
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 3: don't think Jake thought this through and I don't believe

1190
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 3: it's gonna go the way that he hopes.

1191
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: Sadly, right bold Move, Violet wakes up in the cannery

1192
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: from episode three the end of act one, and she's

1193
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: tied to a chair with sparklers at her feet. Jinks

1194
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: proceeds to monologue to Violet and she says Silko wasn't

1195
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: the one that made her this way, Violet was violence

1196
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: is the only thing that kept her going in prison

1197
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 2: was the thought of getting back to Powder, and Jink says,

1198
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: are we still sisters? And Violet's like, nothing's ever gonna

1199
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 2: change that, don't worry, And then Jinks pulls Violet on

1200
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: the chair to a dinner table where she has Soko

1201
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: tied up and gagged. At the other end.

1202
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 4: She's sick of everyone.

1203
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, she's She's got dolls all over at the seats,

1204
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: including her Milo and Clagger dolls. And she then is

1205
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: telling Violet she paid a little visit to Caitlyn and

1206
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 2: she reveals a platter with the top on it and

1207
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: Violet's like, oh my god, no, and she opens it

1208
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 2: and Violet screams and she's like, come on.

1209
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 4: Because you think it's gonna be Caitlyn's head.

1210
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 2: And she's like, even I'm not that crazy.

1211
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 3: Don't be burying those gays yet, yea, nothing, we haven't gone.

1212
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 2: It's it's very tame. It's just a cupcake with the

1213
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: Heck's crystal on top. And then she's so dramatic. Yes, yes.

1214
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: She then wheels Caitlyn to the table, who obviously is

1215
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 2: also bound and gagged. But wait a minute, where is

1216
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: Jink's gonna sit. She has one chair that says jinx

1217
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: and one chair that says powder on opposite ends of

1218
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: the table, and Jinks gives Violet an ultimatum, here's my gun,

1219
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: shoot Caitlin, get her out of the picture, and you

1220
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: can have powder back. Violet says, no, no, Look, you

1221
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: and I can leave. We can never come back. And

1222
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: then Jinks is starting to voices and Soko is telling

1223
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: her that Violet's gonna betray her, and he's like, I

1224
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 2: could have had everything if I turned you in, but

1225
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: I didn't. I would never do that. You're my daughter.

1226
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, also as well, I love this scene because when

1227
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 3: we see how much Drinks is struggling, this is one

1228
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 3: of those moments where we really get the incredible like

1229
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 3: different styles of animation where it's like we're getting these

1230
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 3: like scratchy kids drawings, and yeah, this is such a

1231
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 3: sad scene. I'm like, I hate this scene. It's so good,

1232
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 3: but it's so sad and you want it to go

1233
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 3: one way, but you know it's gonna go the other.

1234
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's so much pleading from all sides and

1235
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: you're just rooting for it all to work out, and

1236
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: you know it's literally all about to.

1237
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: Blow up as soon as, like when watching this scene,

1238
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 2: I think this is the perfect way to end this season.

1239
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 2: And I think as soon as you see her drag

1240
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: Violet to the table and you see Soco at the

1241
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: other end, you know what's going to happen. But it's like, oh, yeah,

1242
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: this is incredible. Yes, this is going to.

1243
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 3: Be Yeah, this is definitely like a Game of Thrones

1244
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 3: level shock finale.

1245
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 4: And I see again by when I was rewatching this

1246
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 4: this morning before.

1247
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 3: I came on the show, you really see how this

1248
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 3: became such a massive succession, how it became a water

1249
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 3: cooler show because it has all these elements that would

1250
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 3: capture you in live action, but here they're utilizing them

1251
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 3: in a way that engrossed a non animation watching audience

1252
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 3: in an animated story, which I just think is such

1253
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 3: a huge achievement and something that we really need if

1254
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 3: we want to keep animation alive.

1255
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 2: Also, I mean, we haven't done enough of this, I think.

1256
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: But Ella Pernell's voice acting.

1257
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 4: Oh oh my god, she's so in.

1258
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,439
Speaker 2: Particular with this scene. I think she does an incredible job.

1259
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, heartbreaking, amazing stuff. Okay, well, let's finish recapping this scene.

1260
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: There's a couple of more beats here to go. Caitlyn

1261
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: uses the broken wine bottle on the table to cut

1262
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: her restraints. She grabs Jinx's gatling gun. We get a

1263
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,959
Speaker 1: show down. Caitlyn shoots off a couple of warning shots,

1264
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: but Jinks is seemingly unfazed. Violet, meanwhile, is pleading with Caitlin,

1265
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: pleading with Jinks. She's trying to diffuse this whole situation.

1266
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: Jinks casually drops her pistol, Oh good, but then instantly

1267
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: shows off the enhancements she has received from her shimmer injections,

1268
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: and we get like just a flash of a monstrous

1269
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: looking Chinks as she comes up and knocks out Caitlin

1270
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: and steals the gun. The voices that she that are

1271
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: overwhelming her now are not only in her head. Is

1272
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: Silko and Violet are literally shouting over each other, trying

1273
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: to get through to Jinks, trying to get through to

1274
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: Powder and diffuse this whole situation. Both of them are

1275
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: clearly like one of us is about to die here

1276
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: at this table. We the viewer also know that as well. Silko,

1277
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: in a panic, grabs the pistol that Jinks had dropped

1278
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: and points it at Y, but Jinks is faster and

1279
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: she fires off her gatling gun, killing Silko tragically.

1280
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 3: Okay, look, can I just say I just have to

1281
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 3: say something, m HM as a sister, I need VI

1282
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 3: to take a strong look in the mirror. Yeah, because

1283
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 3: Jinks literally killed her own dad. To say, VI and

1284
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 3: VI couldn't just randomly shoot Caitlin. Like, I'm not saying

1285
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 3: she should have done it, but I feel like Jinks,

1286
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: I feel like she's really coming through as the as

1287
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 3: the more crazy, but also like she did what needed

1288
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 3: to be done to save VI's life.

1289
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 4: But VI was like, Nah, I can't do it.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm just saying.

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01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying.

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01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 4: I mean the Devil's Advocate, that was advocate.

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01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: Rosie hot rich girl from the Upper City.

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01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 3: She's promising everything to me. Dude, your sister is crazy.

1295
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 3: She needs to go home. You need to give her

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01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: some loving care. You need to help her out. Man.

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01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 3: This is gonna end badly for everyone as we're about

1298
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 3: to see.

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01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: Oh, such a good scene. A great point, Rosie.

1300
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 4: I know I was crying. I was crying. I was crying.

1301
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 3: Such a good scene again, make you care about Silko,

1302
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 3: which shouldn't be possible.

1303
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: My goodness, shouldn't be possible. But poor Silko riddled with

1304
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: bullet holes. At this point, is telling Jinks with his

1305
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: dying breath that he actually made up his mind he

1306
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: was not going to ever give her up to the

1307
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: Upper City and he was going to turn down Jace's

1308
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: offer of peace let them all burn, and Jinks, of course,

1309
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: very touched by this, begins to cry. He wipes away

1310
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: a tear. Don't cry. You're perfect, something that her sister

1311
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: never told her. To be fair, you sister just called

1312
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: her a jinx and walked away from her. Jinks then

1313
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: walks over, now confident in herself, to the chair labeled

1314
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: Jinks and sits down fully embodies her role and the name,

1315
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: and she tells her sister, I thought you could have

1316
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: loved me, but you've changed. I've changed too much has changed.

1317
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: We can no longer be the sisters and have the

1318
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: relationship that we once had, which I think is poignant.

1319
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: Aaron and I had talked a couple episodes ago about

1320
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: the miscommunication that Violet and Jinks are having at this

1321
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: point in their life, and it's because Violet is not

1322
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: recognizing that this is no longer powdered. Things actually have changed,

1323
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: and you can't treat this person and like you did

1324
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: your four year old five year old sisters.

1325
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 3: As well, Like I feel like Vie doesn't have a

1326
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 3: real understanding of what Jinks has been through, do you.

1327
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

1328
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 3: It's like she wants her to just be the same

1329
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 3: sister and act like she has always been in the wrong,

1330
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 3: but these traumatizing things have happened to Jinks. This was

1331
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 3: so heartbreaking for me to watch. And I also think

1332
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 3: as well, it's really butterfly effect or Domino effect too,

1333
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 3: because I just I don't think what happens next would

1334
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 3: have happened if she hadn't killed Silko, Like if she

1335
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 3: hadn't made that split second decision, I don't think we

1336
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 3: would be in the situation where we are, which sets

1337
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 3: up this, you know, huge conflict in season two, And

1338
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 3: I just it's so heartbreaking, and I think she's doing

1339
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 3: it for him.

1340
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 2: I mean, she did bring it, so she had it there.

1341
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: I know.

1342
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 3: There was at least consideration, but you know, she could

1343
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 3: have used ex crystal and not put it in a

1344
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 3: rocket launcher, put it in somewhere.

1345
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: Fair, absolutely fair, But unfortunately that is exactly what happens.

1346
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: She takes the Hex crystal, she puts it in her

1347
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: rocket launchers, She walks up to the window, points it

1348
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: at the tallest tower in Piltover, which happens to be

1349
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: the council chamber, and fires off her rocket. We get

1350
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: this incredible final montage sequence of the show. Here of

1351
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: season one, the council, one by one is voting for

1352
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: Jason's proposal for peace. We get a quick shot of Heimerdinger,

1353
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: and Echo hanging out, just.

1354
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 3: Hanging out, like, hey, Dore's important stuff going on here, guys,

1355
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 3: like what you up to?

1356
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: Clearly setting up season two stuff. And Bessa is looking

1357
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: at Mel's painting, which has been scratched over. Mel has

1358
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: clearly made a decision she is not going to side

1359
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: with her mother. She's gonna stick by Piltover and her

1360
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: neo adopted home. And finally, Jinx's Hex powered rocket hits

1361
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: the council building. We get this really striking bit of

1362
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: animation where at first we're looking through the window and

1363
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: we see the glint off of the chained the metal

1364
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: parts of Mel's dress reflecting the rocket, and then we

1365
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: see the rocket reflection in the glass, and then the

1366
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: glass shatters, cut to.

1367
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 4: Credits, cut credits.

1368
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: So good.

1369
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 2: Yes, altogether a pretty successful dinner party, I think.

1370
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 3: Yes, fantastic.

1371
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 4: You know, nobody could say it was boring, that's for sure.

1372
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, there were things to talk about the entire time.

1373
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1374
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think this is such a good

1375
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 3: season finale. I think it's and I feel really lucky,

1376
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 3: and I feel like everyone else is really lucky that

1377
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 3: if you're listening to this podcast, you don't have very

1378
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 3: long to wait. Yes, because I think the weight was

1379
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 3: so painfully long, but also that's the nature of animation

1380
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:39,919
Speaker 3: and that's how it gets made healthily.

1381
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean what an ending.

1382
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is like in my Top three

1383
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 2: dinner table, well not dinner table, but Top three, like

1384
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: tension filled scenes at a table with people across reach.

1385
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 4: Like it kind of showdown. Yeah, Okay, what are your

1386
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 4: other two?

1387
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: My other two would be Karen Page and Wesley and Daredevil.

1388
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's just incredible. And then and also I know,

1389
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 2: you know, not a huge Johnny Depth fan, but Black

1390
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 2: Mass Oh yeah, yeah, when he's talking about the family

1391
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 2: secret family recipe another one of my favorite scenes in

1392
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 2: like a crime mop movie Rosie.

1393
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: To rep up. We wanted to touch a little bit

1394
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: on season two. We want to keep it spoiler free.

1395
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna cover it on the show when it comes out,

1396
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: of course, But you have had the privilege of seeing

1397
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: season two. Anything you wanted to share with us, anything

1398
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 1: you want to tease.

1399
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 3: I have seen season two episode one. Okay, I got

1400
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 3: to see it on a big cinema screen. I was

1401
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 3: feeling very lucky. What I will say is that it

1402
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 3: is unbelievably action packed.

1403
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 4: It has fantastic music, as you expect.

1404
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 3: It is honestly, like really got wrenching stuff, and I

1405
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 3: think interestingly, it does have a slightly different feel than

1406
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 3: season one, which I think is purposeful. You know, they've

1407
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 3: talked about how they always knew what the ending was

1408
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 3: going to be for season two and how the show

1409
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 3: was going to end interesting. But yeah, I mean it's fantastic.

1410
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 3: I think you guys are going to probably love it,

1411
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 3: and I think for me, the thing that I was

1412
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 3: most relieved about was just like the importance of v

1413
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 3: and Jinx's relationship is still like at the center of

1414
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 3: the show, you know, even when we're going into this

1415
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 3: more grand, explosive war show. And also I didn't get

1416
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 3: to see this, but there's a great interview on Netflix's

1417
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 3: website to them where they basically do kind of like

1418
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 3: trade style interviews where they were just saying, like, the

1419
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 3: biggest thing is how much the world is going to expand,

1420
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 3: which I'm like really excited for. And also as well,

1421
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 3: in the first episode you do get a lot of

1422
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 3: people's decisions and how they led us to where we

1423
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 3: got to in the finale and dealing with the ramifications

1424
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 3: of the people who got us to this point. But yeah,

1425
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 3: I think the episode is going to blow people.

1426
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 1: What a himerding or an echo up to? Any updates

1427
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: why they up to?

1428
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 3: That's the stuff I really can't spoil. That's the really

1429
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 3: big stuff.

1430
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,759
Speaker 2: Is it a full season drop, No, it's three separate acts.

1431
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 1: It's going to come out in Jake good Well, you know.

1432
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 3: I think that's definitely the way they should do it.

1433
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 3: I think they know they have a massive hit on

1434
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 3: their hands. So yeah, November ninth, sixteenth, and twenty third,

1435
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 3: turn off all your lights, make your TV to the

1436
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 3: perfect you know parameters, and just really enjoy watching it.

1437
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 4: And I'm so glad that you guys have covered the

1438
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 4: whole season.

1439
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 3: I really hope this is going to make people check

1440
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 3: it out or rewatch it before season two comes out.

1441
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, A boo, do you have two three minutes?

1442
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 2: What are you hoping for from season two? What would

1443
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: you like to see?

1444
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: Honestly, what Rosie said makes me incredibly excited. I want

1445
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: to see the world get bigger. As much as I

1446
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: love Piltover, as much as I love the under City.

1447
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 1: We really stuck in one location, which played to its

1448
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: drength for season one, but we got hints right and

1449
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: Bessa coming in from across the ocean quote unquote whatever

1450
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: that means. Across the sea means there are other nations

1451
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: out there. There are nations that are dangerous to in Bessa,

1452
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 1: and she needs war weapons to fight them. So I'm

1453
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: a bit of a lord junkie. I'm a world building junkie.

1454
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: I love that sort of thing in my storytelling, and

1455
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: it's exciting Rosie to hear that. It seems like I'm

1456
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: going to be getting a bit more of that zooming out.

1457
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 4: I think that's definitely going to be happening.

1458
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: Also, I'm excited that maybe we don't spend the entire

1459
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: time in Piltover solely in the council chambers. Now, oh baby,

1460
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 2: because they've been potentially blown up, I can.

1461
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,719
Speaker 3: Definitely say that I think you are going to see

1462
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 3: more of Piltova.

1463
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: Nice.

1464
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 2: Nice. Also, like I mentioned earlier, I really would like

1465
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: there to be some kind of big bad, you know,

1466
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: something that maybe brings some people together. And one of

1467
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 2: my favorite things again with Game of Thrones is like

1468
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 2: the switching up of character pairings and so you have

1469
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 2: different people with different people, and the Avengers movies do

1470
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 2: this too. I would like to see a little bit

1471
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 2: of Obviously we're going to get some Calin and Violet together,

1472
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 2: but let's see, you know, we got a little bit

1473
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 2: with Violt and Jay's fighting together. Let's get Kaitlin with

1474
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 2: someone else. I'm all aboard the Echo and himer Dinger move.

1475
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, I need to see himer Dinger shred some

1476
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: rails on a hoverboard. I needed. I need to see

1477
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:12,839
Speaker 1: him doing Olympic tricks.

1478
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So, of the three of us, if we're

1479
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 2: going to go play the game right now, which character

1480
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:22,839
Speaker 2: would you play us? I would play as jinx Aboo Jace.

1481
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 2: He's like, where's the DLC shirtless skin? That's so strange?

1482
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't have it.

1483
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 3: I know. He's like, is this like bold can?

1484
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,919
Speaker 1: Like I was doing some research. They did add Arcane

1485
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 1: TV show skins to the game. You can play these

1486
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 1: characters in the outfits from the show.

1487
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 3: That's I did.

1488
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: I saw some tweet that was like, those of you

1489
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 2: who've never played Legal Legends, you don't know how lucky

1490
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: you are that you were first introduced to Caitlin through

1491
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 2: the arcade show design versus her design in the game.

1492
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 3: Design in the game is so derayed.

1493
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 2: She looks like a clown.

1494
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 3: She looks like an evil clown from like a Halloween

1495
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 3: movie or something like really bad. Yes, okay, Aaron, who

1496
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 3: would you be inger? Oh?

1497
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 2: I would want to? I would yet, Yeah, I want

1498
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 2: to see what he does. Thank you everyone for listening.

1499
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 2: Coming up on X ray, we're diving into the Penguin

1500
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 2: finale on Monday, and then Tuesday we're going to be

1501
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 2: talking about the first act of Arcane season two.

1502
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 3: Wow, it's already happened.

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Speaker 2: And on future episodes of extras, Aboo is going to

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Speaker 2: be leading us through an upcoming TV show, Doom Prophecy. Right,

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Speaker 2: we'll be having Joel Carmen, Rosie Jason and if there

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Speaker 2: are certain things you would like us to cover, please

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Speaker 2: let us know in the discord. Yeah, if there's some

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Speaker 2: topic that you feel like X ray hasn't had a

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Speaker 2: chance to cover because there's literally too much content out

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Speaker 2: there for us to do in two episodes a week,

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Speaker 2: send us a message over in the discord.

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Speaker 3: Yes, my gut says, we will get lots of doctor

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Speaker 3: who requests and I know that's summing me and Joe

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Speaker 3: Well are excited to talk about so fingers crossed.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you hear something about that soon.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Okay, that's today's episode. Rosie, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us. It was fun to have Mom

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Speaker 1: at the dinner table today.

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Speaker 3: It was so great. I'm glad we could all have

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Speaker 3: fun and we didn't kill anyone that's at the dinner table,

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Speaker 3: so really success.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that's all for today, Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 5: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Gisubsion and Rosie

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Speaker 5: Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive

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Speaker 5: producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer

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Speaker 5: is a Booze Afar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent and

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Speaker 5: Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez.

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Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman

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Speaker 3: and Heidi our discord moderator.