Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Laurence Ema coming to you from the
Speaker 1: home office in sunny Austin, Texas. It's got such a
Speaker 1: good time to be here in Austin this fall. Football weather, Yes,
Speaker 1: football weather. Oh, I was going to say, slash Harry
Speaker 1: Potter weather, booky weather, booky weather.
Speaker 2: Well, we're still waiting for it to come. We actually
Speaker 2: admittedly had a little bit of better weather this past
Speaker 2: weekend in Santa Barbara, California, one of our favorite cities,
Speaker 2: where we went for a big bachelor surprise for one
Speaker 2: of your favorite bachelors of all time, Andrew.
Speaker 1: Fireson, one of my favorite human beings period dot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: period dot. He's just his beautiful wife, Evonna Firestone, six
Speaker 1: months ago.
Speaker 2: This secret in for so long. This woman, I mean,
Speaker 2: we're laughing about it now, but she's was telling me
Speaker 2: she's like Andrew was starting to think, you know, he's
Speaker 2: like getting suspicious. I was seeming too secretive. But basically,
Speaker 2: he'd been given an Honoree of the Year award by
Speaker 2: this organization Storyteller for all the incredible work he does
Speaker 2: in Santa Barbara to help them they help traumatize kids
Speaker 2: get a better start in life. And Andrew is sort
Speaker 2: of known as the MC of the Santa Barbara Areas.
Speaker 2: Guys does every charity event.
Speaker 1: Does more for more people and more organizations than anybody
Speaker 1: I know. And I host a lot of these things,
Speaker 1: but he is relentless, will do two three four events
Speaker 1: a weekend, sometimes two in the same night, just to
Speaker 1: give back to the community and to help as much
Speaker 1: as he can. And se Yeah, about six months ago, Evanna,
Speaker 1: his wife, reached out to us and said, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: Andrew's been given this amazing honor, the twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: Storyteller Honoree of the Year, and I want to surprise
Speaker 1: him with you guys as the people who come on
Speaker 1: stage and announce.
Speaker 2: Him and the award.
Speaker 1: In the announcement anounce the award. Yeah, the award was
Speaker 1: still surprise, so.
Speaker 2: He didn't know he was getting the award.
Speaker 1: Here's the bizarre thing is they asked him to host,
Speaker 1: So he went under the guys that he was hosting
Speaker 1: the event and him seeing the event and hosting the
Speaker 1: the auction, all of it, which by the way, he did.
Speaker 1: That's that's part of this story. But That's how they
Speaker 1: got him there with a few of his friends and
Speaker 1: a little bit of his family. What he didn't know
Speaker 1: is that Lauren and I were there to go on
Speaker 1: stage and actually give him this honor. And then his
Speaker 1: whole family rolled out, his sister, his dad, friends from
Speaker 1: out of Faria, friends came in from his old life
Speaker 1: in San Francisco, and it was such a beautiful, emotional
Speaker 1: He cried what he saw his dad and his sister
Speaker 1: and his family walk out. It was it was awesome.
Speaker 2: So I know that Evana was so nervous about it.
Speaker 2: I was a little did you kind of like it?
Speaker 2: I sort of like, here's when I was having fun.
Speaker 2: I mean, at first, we were nervous because we're flying
Speaker 2: in that day, and you know, you never want to
Speaker 2: be the person to screw a surprise. What we had
Speaker 2: told Andrew was Ivanna's birthday was the same weekend, and
Speaker 2: we said we want to come in for Havana's birthday
Speaker 2: and they're, you know, Evanna played it off, well, oh okay,
Speaker 2: that'd be great, but we have this event Friday night.
Speaker 2: And Andrew's like, you guys don't have to come to
Speaker 2: this event, and we said, any you know, as a friend,
Speaker 2: anytime with you is great. We don't care, we'll come
Speaker 2: to the event. And so we're coming in and on
Speaker 2: the one hand, I didn't want to be the one
Speaker 2: to mess anything up. But on the other hand, when
Speaker 2: we got there, I was kind of really digging into
Speaker 2: like the acting part of it. Like I said, so,
Speaker 2: Andrew Waite, are you hosting I'm pretending like I know nothing.
Speaker 2: Are you hosting this event? Is this another one of
Speaker 2: the things you're hosting? Oh? Great, we'll get to see
Speaker 2: you in action. This is so exciting and you maybe
Speaker 2: have the best move of the night. Because Andrew was
Speaker 2: really annoyed, like he was. He was really worried about
Speaker 2: us being he's very protective of us, and he knew
Speaker 2: he didn't want us. First of all, He's like, don't
Speaker 2: come to this charity event. You don't have to do this.
Speaker 2: And we're like, no, no, we love you guys. We're
Speaker 2: just gonna come and then we're gonna have a great weekend.
Speaker 2: And so he's like okay, okay. So we're sitting at
Speaker 2: the table, well, one of the front tables, with him,
Speaker 2: and obviously this whole thing had been set up with
Speaker 2: the two co chairs we had FaceTime with them. We'd
Speaker 2: gone overall what we were going to do, the videos.
Speaker 2: Everything had been so choreographed, obviously behind Andrew's back, and
Speaker 2: so when they called us up to the stage, Andrew's like,
Speaker 2: what the f Like, why are they doing this to you?
Speaker 2: He was so mad, and so I leaned over. I said,
Speaker 2: don't worry. They just asked me to do a quick favor.
Speaker 2: I'm totally good with this, don't worry. And that was
Speaker 2: because he was immediately so pissed off that the co
Speaker 2: Chairs had asked you and I'd go out. You knew
Speaker 2: how you would react. You knew that he would be
Speaker 2: afraid that if people saw you there, they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 2: Chris Harrison's here, We'll just we'll ask him to participate
Speaker 2: in some way. And so you played it off like
Speaker 2: that had happened. So he was actually furious. So we
Speaker 2: went on stage and I got to give the co
Speaker 2: Chairs and Havana a shout out. They had the brilliant idea. Yeah,
Speaker 2: take this idea, you guys, and use it as something
Speaker 2: in your life if you need to. It was so smart.
Speaker 2: They had a fake honor recreated using the letters of
Speaker 2: Andrew's name. It was an anagram, so in the brochure
Speaker 2: even it said that the honorey of the night was
Speaker 2: doctor Stephanie Rowan. They had a fake bio made of her,
Speaker 2: fake photos of this person, and then the co chairs
Speaker 2: got up and they said, Okay, tonight we're going to
Speaker 2: be honoring doctor Stephanie Rowan, and we'd like to welcome
Speaker 2: Lauren Zema and Chris Harrison to the stage. This is
Speaker 2: when Andrew freaks out. We get up there and what
Speaker 2: we had planned was they had made a graphic so
Speaker 2: that we said, you know, actually, uh, we got to
Speaker 2: get something's off with this graphic. We got to get
Speaker 2: this fixed. The letters then rearranged to reveal the real
Speaker 2: honery of the night is Andrew Firestone. At that moment,
Speaker 2: his family and friends who were there in secret, they'd
Speaker 2: been hidden in the back room. They walked out, Andrew
Speaker 2: was crying. His son Brooks later told me, I've never
Speaker 2: seen my dad cry before.
Speaker 1: Really, yes, I know. His kids were there, his beautiful
Speaker 1: daughter Anya, the boys Brooks and Shane obviously Evanna, tons
Speaker 1: of friends of his from his old days, his family.
Speaker 1: It was really special. So we give him first of all,
Speaker 1: I laid into the Stephanie row and I, you know,
Speaker 1: I went up. I said, Stephanie Rowan is such a
Speaker 1: gift to this community. And I started in my speech
Speaker 1: on Steph, doctor Stephanie Rowan, who doesn't exist, and then
Speaker 1: Lauren cut me off and broke down the anagram. But
Speaker 1: they went so deep with the fake that they had
Speaker 1: a picture of Steph a Stephanie Rowan, and it was
Speaker 1: an amalgamation apparently of Andrew as a woman, and they
Speaker 1: took this AI version comes through of Andrew as a woman,
Speaker 1: and so they had all these deep kind of Easter
Speaker 1: egg fakes and behind the picture.
Speaker 2: They said that she was into birds, Andrew was a burger.
Speaker 1: They added all these like funny little Easter eggs that
Speaker 1: obviously Andrew never would have seen but later was quite funny.
Speaker 1: And so we presented the award. They there was this
Speaker 1: beautiful video tribute that his family took part in. The
Speaker 1: kids were very much a part of. And then we
Speaker 1: were about to bring Andrew up on stage. Now, if
Speaker 1: you know Andrew Firestone, this guy gives it one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty eight percent every single time.
Speaker 2: And Andrew, like me, is a theater nerd.
Speaker 1: He's a theater nerd. He loves musical theater.
Speaker 2: He and I will. You know, I think that you
Speaker 2: and Evanna connect a little more on which is interesting
Speaker 2: because I know Andrew's a former football player, But actually
Speaker 2: you and Evanna very much connect on like your sportiness
Speaker 2: and your competitiveness and tequila. Yeah, well we're all in
Speaker 2: a tequila. They don't take tequila for yourself. That's not
Speaker 2: for you. Like if we all play pickleball, you and
Speaker 2: Vonna actually are on a team, and you guys really
Speaker 2: get Andrew and I to being cheerleaders.
Speaker 1: We're very competitive.
Speaker 2: But then if and if I start singing a song
Speaker 2: from you know, White Christmas, Andrew jumps in. He knows
Speaker 2: all the words.
Speaker 1: Take guys and ulstairs.
Speaker 2: If he starts singing guys and dolls, I'm right there
Speaker 2: with him. And so it's really lovely when you have
Speaker 2: a good couple friend who loves each other, You love
Speaker 2: each other, and then you all also love each other.
Speaker 1: In a little backstory, so at Andrew and Evanna's wedding
Speaker 1: many many years ago, their recession was to a song
Speaker 1: that they just started out of nowhere, a cappella with
Speaker 1: the choir at the church and the whole thing was
Speaker 1: Living on a Prayer by bon Jovi, and it started
Speaker 1: like really as part of the ceremony, You're like, what's happening?
Speaker 1: I know those words? Is that? And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden the song started and we all started singing
Speaker 1: in the church and so that was the start of
Speaker 1: something beautiful. And then Andrew has sung to me a
Speaker 1: couple of times, once at a Direct Relief Foundation event
Speaker 1: where he introduced me via a song, and then at
Speaker 1: our wedding.
Speaker 2: You should post that video.
Speaker 1: You need to post that. It was pretty tragic, pretty bad.
Speaker 2: When I say he's a theater kid, I'm not like
Speaker 2: commending his vocals is they're only okay. Here's the secret.
Speaker 2: You can be a theater kid who in musicals and
Speaker 2: not actually be that great at singing because there's characters you.
Speaker 1: To go big and just yeah, really loud, really big.
Speaker 2: Like and Annie, I was Miss Hannigan one year, and
Speaker 2: that's more of a growl than a singing. When you're
Speaker 2: singing licktull Girls, Lick the girls, So you just andreck
Speaker 2: isn't exactly on pitch, but yeah, he sang to you
Speaker 2: at Direct Relief and then at our wedding. We asked
Speaker 2: Andrew to mc our rehearsal dinner and he did a
Speaker 2: really funny thing where my favorite song is I Want
Speaker 2: to Dance with Somebody by Whitney Houston, and he at
Speaker 2: the end of the night said I would like to
Speaker 2: do a reading from the poetry of w. Houston. And
Speaker 2: it took everybody a minute. He's going the clock strikes
Speaker 2: upon the hour and the sun begins to fade, and
Speaker 2: you're thinking, wow, this is a beautiful love poem. Still
Speaker 2: enough time to figure out how to chase my blues away,
Speaker 2: and you're starting to get it, and then he gets
Speaker 2: the entire rehearsal dinner to sing I Want to Dance
Speaker 2: with Somebody, and it was wonderful. So we just thought
Speaker 2: Andrew always brings a song, and my musical theater teacher
Speaker 2: always told me and On a song, so we thought,
Speaker 2: we've got to bring him up on stage to actually
Speaker 2: get the award with a song. And you had the
Speaker 2: great idea of Living on a Prayer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to call back to Live in on
Speaker 1: a Prayer, which was their wedding song. And you you
Speaker 1: woke up one morning and you just handed me some lyrics.
Speaker 1: You said, I got it. I wrote the song. Lauren
Speaker 1: Ziema created an original knockoff obviously set to Living on
Speaker 1: a Prayer by bon Jovi, all about Andrew. And here's
Speaker 1: the brilliant part, not just the lyrics, which were beautiful
Speaker 1: and poignant and worked, but it was short. What Lauren
Speaker 1: did is what everyone should do with karaoke and every
Speaker 1: song and every joke. Make it quick where it's still
Speaker 1: funny before it gets weird and awkward.
Speaker 2: And on a high note. I always say that karaoke
Speaker 2: it gets bad because you sing the whole song. If
Speaker 2: everybody got and then you're waiting for your turn, if
Speaker 2: everybody got up at karaoke and it was like a
Speaker 2: minute long version of that song, it would just be
Speaker 2: such a bigger.
Speaker 1: High Yeah, ninety seconds tops.
Speaker 2: We just did the first verse through a chorus, right,
Speaker 2: brought Andrew up on stage.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: I rewrote the lyrics a little bit, you know. Instead of, uh,
Speaker 2: we're living on a Prayer, it was we love Andrew.
Speaker 1: The whole thing started. I had to start it that.
Speaker 1: I was nervous because you're a much better singer than
Speaker 1: I am and a better performer.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, let me take this moment in hold
Speaker 2: on pau Sure, babe, you have always always chastised my voice.
Speaker 2: I really need to take this woman in. No no,
Speaker 2: did I prove myself to you with the living on
Speaker 2: a prayer performance?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to post a video of what happened
Speaker 1: this weekend. It's the Voldemort impersonation that's different than singing,
Speaker 1: because that's the voice that can send me over.
Speaker 2: Sometimes sing in the home and you're like, babe, it's
Speaker 2: not sounding that great.
Speaker 1: Okay, you have a beautiful voice, a much better voice
Speaker 1: than I do. You do you have a great singing voice.
Speaker 1: And she killed it. I started it off, and I
Speaker 1: was a little nervous, and but I said, you know,
Speaker 1: it's what would Andrew do? You go big? And I
Speaker 1: started off with Andrew was on my TV show. It
Speaker 1: didn't go that well. He didn't find love. Oh no bad,
Speaker 1: So you could tell whether that that wash. But I
Speaker 1: went for it. And then you jumped in this batch.
Speaker 2: But this bachelor was handsome, mankind, and we knew he'd
Speaker 2: find an amazing life and love, real love with Havana, and.
Speaker 1: We jumped in together for our guy.
Speaker 2: Andrew a great family man.
Speaker 1: And a good friend too.
Speaker 2: This pa or no this time, I already forgot my
Speaker 2: own called Firestone. He's a lot too love. We'll give
Speaker 2: it a shot. And it was great. So Andrew comes
Speaker 2: up and I got to give him credit because after
Speaker 2: a very emotional couple of moments, and here's something that
Speaker 2: we did work with storyteller on. And it's one thing
Speaker 2: you're always so good at from your production background, is like,
Speaker 2: here's the thing when you're doing an event, a local
Speaker 2: charity event, a wedding, a sixtieth birthday party, you have
Speaker 2: to produce the event, and that means you have to
Speaker 2: think about, okay, like how is this timeline going? You know,
Speaker 2: how much do people need in cocktail hour? And how
Speaker 2: long should a toast be? And you're very good at
Speaker 2: that down to I always think of it our wedding
Speaker 2: when you thought where's the sun going to be hitting,
Speaker 2: how's the lighting going to be at the ceremony? And
Speaker 2: we kind of worked with a storyteller on Andrew and
Speaker 2: the people in the audience have to like process all this.
Speaker 2: You know, we're surprising them with this honoree. Andrew's going
Speaker 2: to be surprised, He's going to be emotional, he's going
Speaker 2: to see his family there, and that was part of
Speaker 2: us doing the song. We wanted to just do something
Speaker 2: silly so that he could like have a second to
Speaker 2: gather himself before coming on stage and giving this and
Speaker 2: accepting the award, because he was going to have to
Speaker 2: speak without knowing it. And he just absolutely crushed his speech.
Speaker 2: I was so impressed. I know, he comes back down
Speaker 2: at The really funny part was he comes back down
Speaker 2: after the speech. He gave a beautiful short speech about
Speaker 2: how events like this really are. He's the one who
Speaker 2: benefits because their therapy for him, He loves doing it.
Speaker 2: The community is so important to him. And then he
Speaker 2: and you know, he said, okay, I've taken up enough
Speaker 2: of your time. Everybody. The bar is open, and he
Speaker 2: comes back down. He turns to me and goes, I
Speaker 2: blacked out up there, Did I think Havanna? I said,
Speaker 2: you didn't. I said, it's okay, you're about to go
Speaker 2: do the live auction. You'll have a chance to do it.
Speaker 2: Then it was like an Oscars moment where it's like,
Speaker 2: oh wait, I forgot to thank my family.
Speaker 1: That just happened. By the way, was it the Emmy's
Speaker 1: when the guy got back, Yeah, he won another award.
Speaker 1: He's like, thank god I forgot to you know, thank
Speaker 1: my family. Yeah, but it was a great night and
Speaker 1: then we ended up. You know, the night kind of
Speaker 1: continued into the week hours of the morning, but we
Speaker 1: had to like rally because the next day was actually
Speaker 1: Vanna's birthday, and we all got back together.
Speaker 2: And then celebrated, celebrated our girl of Honna.
Speaker 1: We packed a lot into it, and then before we
Speaker 1: left town, we caught Shane's soccer game in the morning,
Speaker 1: so we did it all. We did it all.
Speaker 2: Listen. It makes me think, you know, just the importance
Speaker 2: of community. Andrew and Ivanna have such a great community.
Speaker 2: They're close with their neighbors. They're very invested in their community,
Speaker 2: and all the studies show, right, I'm sounding like I'm
Speaker 2: saying something obvious, but I don't think a lot of
Speaker 2: people do it today. You get the most joy in
Speaker 2: life from your community. And I will admit and not
Speaker 2: to like make things a bummer, but I did think
Speaker 2: to myself at one point this weekend, I don't know
Speaker 2: that the Bachelor world has this anymore, you know, the
Speaker 2: Bachelor Nation thing and the community of it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think you were so good, and I tip my
Speaker 2: hat to you on how you created the Bachelor community
Speaker 2: because sometimes you'll say things to me, and you know,
Speaker 2: we've been together six years, but obviously you haven't told
Speaker 2: me your whole life story, which is great.
Speaker 1: Let's slowly, yeah, yeah, we have time.
Speaker 2: You know, we got time. We keep learning about each other.
Speaker 2: But like you mentioned to me this weekend, because Andrew's
Speaker 2: sister was at the event, and I never met her
Speaker 2: really and you seem to know her really well, I'm like,
Speaker 2: how do you know Haley And you're like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: I hosted direct relief events for her, And I just
Speaker 2: think about that, and I think you went so above
Speaker 2: and beyond in a way that I don't even think
Speaker 2: got covered by the media because it's not that, you know,
Speaker 2: because headlines love drama and it's not that drama. But
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, you did things like you hosted events
Speaker 2: for charity events for mishell money. You hosted charity events
Speaker 2: not just for Andrew Firestone, but for his family and
Speaker 2: what they were doing. You took all this time to
Speaker 2: invest with the people on the show and build relationships
Speaker 2: with them behind the scenes in a way that like
Speaker 2: I don't even know that the fans knew because social
Speaker 2: media didn't exist at the time, so you weren't like, oh,
Speaker 2: here I am at Haley Firestones event and I offered
Speaker 2: to host it for her, you know, for free, just
Speaker 2: giving your time, and that created the family and Bachelor Nation.
Speaker 1: And it came you know that people always asked if so,
Speaker 1: I'm just commending you, and people were I took that serious.
Speaker 1: People asked, you know, are you close to people on
Speaker 1: the show? And I said, you know, not really. When
Speaker 1: they were on the show, I knew the bats or
Speaker 1: the bats arette, but you know, the major the twenty
Speaker 1: five or thirty contestants or however many they use. Now
Speaker 1: I didn't really get to know till sometimes later, like
Speaker 1: Michelle Money when she called and asked me to come
Speaker 1: do that event for her dad, for her late father,
Speaker 1: and that's when we became friends and I got to
Speaker 1: know other people in that way after the show. But
Speaker 1: you said yes and no, Yeah, I said yes because
Speaker 1: it meant a lot to me, and you know, these
Speaker 1: people had given their time. And by the way, speaking
Speaker 1: of a shout out to Michelle Money, her husband Mike Weir,
Speaker 1: he was the captain for the President's Cup golf event
Speaker 1: this weekend. It's a huge, huge event where the PGA
Speaker 1: Tour guys, kind of the guys from the United States
Speaker 1: take on the rest of the world, Asia and Australia
Speaker 1: and all that. Our friend Jason Day was a part
Speaker 1: of this on Mike Weir's team, so it was a
Speaker 1: big deal that Mike was the captain. The captain's wives
Speaker 1: are a big deal in this as well. It's this
Speaker 1: really cool family team event. And it was Michelle Money's
Speaker 1: birthday actually Sat Day as well, so happy Birthday Money.
Speaker 1: The international team lost, but they were outmatched. I mean,
Speaker 1: they were out gone. Our team was really good, but
Speaker 1: it was just fun to see. It's fun to see
Speaker 1: her life take off and so happy. And I love
Speaker 1: Mike we Air now and it was fun to watch
Speaker 1: them on TV all weekend.
Speaker 2: Well see, And that's the thing you take the time
Speaker 2: to support. And I'm sorry I'm just tooting your horn here,
Speaker 2: but it's something I love about you and something I've
Speaker 2: really taken from you. And I think it was in
Speaker 2: your upbringing, you know, in your community in Dallas and
Speaker 2: how your parents and your grandparents raised you and your family.
Speaker 2: You do the right thing and you help people and
Speaker 2: you show up for people and all that stuff happened
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, and yeah, that really created Bachelor Nation.
Speaker 2: Like a lot of people would come off the show
Speaker 2: and say, well, I went through all this stuff and
Speaker 2: then the show wasn't really there for me when I
Speaker 2: needed them.
Speaker 1: But like, I think there was some guilt there, right,
Speaker 1: I think there was some guilt, like, well, like.
Speaker 2: What you going through?
Speaker 1: But well when Ben Higgins was like you know, when
Speaker 1: these people would come on the show and they would
Speaker 1: just be jettisoned off, and it took me a while
Speaker 1: to catch on what was happening where these people were
Speaker 1: just kind of thrown because look, we'll get into this
Speaker 1: later in the week with the Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: thing and people being you know, off the show and
Speaker 1: having issues with it or I get that. I get
Speaker 1: it from both sides. It's like, you have this massive network.
Speaker 1: They don't wake up in the morning and go, how
Speaker 1: can we take care of Wells Adams or Ben Higgins
Speaker 1: or well because it's a business, right, it's a business,
Speaker 1: and so they kind of just throw you back into
Speaker 1: the ocean and you're like, oh, but you know what,
Speaker 1: and so I just I felt a little guilt and
Speaker 1: emboldened to try and help as much as I could
Speaker 1: because these people. But that's still being used by the machine.
Speaker 2: But that's doing the right thing, and I think we've
Speaker 2: lost that a lot. I'm not just talking about the
Speaker 2: Bachelor and I'm like soapboxy, but I've never I don't
Speaker 2: like the phrase it's business. It's not personal like on
Speaker 2: the one hand, sure to a certain extent, but to me,
Speaker 2: that line is drawn when it's then about but are
Speaker 2: you doing the right thing like business?
Speaker 1: It doesn't absolve you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, business isn't personal. You can't make every
Speaker 2: business decision emotionally and you have to prioritize fits and
Speaker 2: things like that. But I do think you can ask yourself, wait,
Speaker 2: but am I doing the wrong thing here? And like
Speaker 2: I think about as silly as it is, but it's
Speaker 2: not silly, but it's sticking with me. When we were
Speaker 2: in Ireland over the summer, we did a tour of
Speaker 2: the of Dublin and we were learning about the Guinness
Speaker 2: family and everywhere we went, our guide was like, well,
Speaker 2: the Guinness family redid this park. The Guinness family and
Speaker 2: he was talking about how they invested so much back
Speaker 2: into Ireland. And he's told us that when someone used
Speaker 2: to work at the Guinness Company, right, one, that man's
Speaker 2: son was guaranteed a job at the Guinness Company in
Speaker 2: the future. And two if that man died while he
Speaker 2: was working at Guinness for whatever reason, yep, they paid
Speaker 2: his salary to the family forever, like they just took
Speaker 2: care of the family. And I thought, Wow, that's just
Speaker 2: a company doing the right thing. And I think, like
Speaker 2: the last few years, I don't know, there's been a
Speaker 2: lot of performative companies doing the right thing, like on
Speaker 2: social media, but I don't know that they're really doing
Speaker 2: the right thing.
Speaker 1: No, A lot of it's bullsh it. Brings me. Well,
Speaker 1: let me bitch in one more Bachelor thing and then
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 2: Ask I have even more Bachelor things to mention, So go.
Speaker 1: Okay, because I want to get to it. It will
Speaker 1: lead us into the political thing we're in talk.
Speaker 2: I have got one more Andrew things, So can I
Speaker 2: go get that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do that.
Speaker 2: And then so one thing I wanted to ask you
Speaker 2: about was when we were writing the speech to give
Speaker 2: Andrew the award, you kind of worked in some stuff
Speaker 2: about Andrew season that I didn't know, because I haven't seen.
Speaker 2: The first seasons of the show I watched were around
Speaker 2: like the Ben Higgins, Chris Soul's, Caitlin Bristow years. So
Speaker 2: I have never seen Andrew season.
Speaker 1: Because he's two thousand and three, two thousand and four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like a sophomore in high school, I know,
Speaker 2: and I could have watched it. I was in high
Speaker 2: school at the time, but like, honestly, my mom was
Speaker 2: a Housewives babe, so I watched house I was with
Speaker 2: my mom some people their family or Bachelor people and
Speaker 2: they watched Bachelor. So you had had us work in
Speaker 2: some stuff about like what a disaster Andrew season was
Speaker 2: for him. I don't think it was ratings wise, and
Speaker 2: it was a huge success. And I was like, babe,
Speaker 2: are you sure, and you go no, no, no. The crowd's
Speaker 2: going to get this, and they did. They laughed at
Speaker 2: the jokes he wrote. He wrote a joke about the
Speaker 2: girl who said that the Olive Garden was her favorite
Speaker 2: Italian restaurant. I'm not getting these references, but I'm saying them,
Speaker 2: and I'm trusting you because I know you're good at
Speaker 2: what you do. But what was well and then I
Speaker 2: was kind of talking to Andrew's friends later, and his
Speaker 2: friend said something that was profound. He said, the Bachelor
Speaker 2: actually really the experience really kind of like humbled Andrew
Speaker 2: and made him a better person, Not that he was
Speaker 2: a bad guy, but what was the like, what was
Speaker 2: the horror that Andrew went through and how did it
Speaker 2: make him a good person?
Speaker 1: I think it was.
Speaker 2: What do you think worked that season?
Speaker 1: If I was going to therapize this, as I always do,
Speaker 1: I think there were a lot of things at play.
Speaker 1: First of all personal. You know, Andrew's very much the
Speaker 1: youngest of his family, a very esteemed well.
Speaker 2: Known, like he's the youngest sibling by like, his siblings
Speaker 2: are ten years.
Speaker 1: Ago by fall, and so I think it was kind
Speaker 1: of the first time Andrew was wearing the Firestone name
Speaker 1: on the back of his jersey, more so than anybody
Speaker 1: else in his family. He was putting it on this
Speaker 1: really grand scale. And I think for the first time
Speaker 1: Andrew felt the responsibility of that weight, and it took
Speaker 1: him a minute to realize that and to rationalize it
Speaker 1: and deal with it in a profound way. I think
Speaker 1: it I think it hit him harder. I think at
Speaker 1: first he's like, oh, yea, I'm gonna do this show
Speaker 1: and there's women fun. You know. He was kind of
Speaker 1: footloose and fancy for he was young, and his family
Speaker 1: was very established. His dad obviously the winery, was cooking,
Speaker 1: his brother, I think had just started eight h five brewery,
Speaker 1: and Adam was doing his thing, and his daughter, his daughter,
Speaker 1: his older sister, Hayley, you know, was very involved in
Speaker 1: the community. And so I think Andrew was just really
Speaker 1: coming into his own as a firestone. And I think
Speaker 1: when that name was put on the back of his
Speaker 1: jersey and he really had to carry it for the
Speaker 1: first time so publicly on network TV, he I think
Speaker 1: I think he got it. He's like, oh, this is important.
Speaker 1: I can't I can't ruin this or soil this. And
Speaker 1: then on top of that, you have the other side
Speaker 1: of the coin, which is I have to be the
Speaker 1: Bachelor and this very new show that we were still
Speaker 1: figuring out things. The show was not evolved completely. It
Speaker 1: was I wouldn't say half baked, but at that point
Speaker 1: he was still three quarters baked.
Speaker 2: What was Andrew? Was he the second or third?
Speaker 1: No, he was Gosh, it would have been Alex Michelle
Speaker 1: and then Aaron Bergee, and then Trista, and then we
Speaker 1: had Bob Guinney. I think he was five, he was
Speaker 1: five incarnations.
Speaker 2: In and he was still in that time when it
Speaker 2: was truly this aspirational guy.
Speaker 1: You right, diamond in the rough, you have a chance
Speaker 1: to find love with a firestone.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if i'd call Andrew diamond in
Speaker 2: the rough. I think Diamond in the roff was later.
Speaker 2: I mean, Andrew was a firestone, a firestone tires.
Speaker 1: He was the like, right, But I guess the point
Speaker 1: is it was this fairy tale. He was the fairy Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: So he you're you're kind of I still figuring the
Speaker 2: show out. What do you remember most about that season?
Speaker 1: The thing I remember most because back then I really
Speaker 1: leaned into getting to know everybody before the show.
Speaker 2: And you and Andrew are very close in age only
Speaker 2: a few yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. At the time, he was probably I don't know,
Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine maybe, and I was
Speaker 1: like thirty one thirty two, so we were only a
Speaker 1: few years apart, still are. And then I remember we
Speaker 1: went to lunch, just Andrew and I and Joshua was
Speaker 1: just born, I mean two thousand and one. So Joshua
Speaker 1: was only like three years old. So I remember taking
Speaker 1: Joshua to this lunch. We were down in Santa Monica,
Speaker 1: and I put Joshua in his high chair and we
Speaker 1: ordered our food and we're sitting there eating, you know,
Speaker 1: hamburgers and French fries whatever, and I just remember all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm talking to Andrew and I see
Speaker 1: this French fry just hit him in the face. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, Joshua had just picked up a handful of
Speaker 1: French fries and threw it at Andrew. And Andrew as
Speaker 1: we know him now, quickly picks up a handful of
Speaker 1: French fries and throws him in Joshua's face, and a
Speaker 1: food fight ensues at this table, and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the hell is that? But that just like sums up
Speaker 1: Andrew of like, he didn't get mad, he didn't get
Speaker 1: he just like, yeah, I'm in on this, and that's
Speaker 1: how we kind of that's how our relationship started. We
Speaker 1: became dear friends ever since. And I remember Andrew two
Speaker 1: things about him. Number One, uh, the wine. Obviously, he
Speaker 1: has a winery at his disposal. We were I think
Speaker 1: serving the women Kendall Jackson, no offense, kJ, but it's
Speaker 1: not the greatest stuff. And Andrew after night one, was like,
Speaker 1: can I bring in my own wine and beer? And
Speaker 1: that's when Andrew's like, I'm going to start serving firestone
Speaker 1: in eight o five and this palette that took up
Speaker 1: the entire doorway shows up. The next day of he
Speaker 1: brought his own wine in and he was the first
Speaker 1: one because he actually got engaged to this girl named
Speaker 1: jen Chef. Jeff. Yeah, he bought his own. She became
Speaker 1: the bacherette later after they broke up. He's the first
Speaker 1: person who said, no, I'm buying my own ring. We
Speaker 1: were using to Corey rings back there. This is before
Speaker 1: what's his name, Neil Lane. We used Paul to Corey,
Speaker 1: which honestly, you are nicer rings, but they changed over
Speaker 1: to Neil Lane. But yeah, to Corey He's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm buying this. If I'm getting engaged, this is incumbent
Speaker 1: upon me to do this. So that's the kind of
Speaker 1: guy Andrew was.
Speaker 2: Andrew doing the right thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they broke up and Jen Chef became
Speaker 1: the bacheorette. And Andrew went on to find love with Evana.
Speaker 2: Can we tell his sister's Oprah story.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a great story.
Speaker 2: Tell it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so his older sister Haley. So back in the day,
Speaker 1: Oprah was a huge fan of the show, and all
Speaker 1: the producers were and.
Speaker 2: And you have to think about how big the Oprah
Speaker 2: Show was at that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Oprah Show is still massive. And Oprah and
Speaker 1: Bob Guiney became really good friends for a while, and
Speaker 1: he was on Oprah Show a while, I being really
Speaker 1: unlikely unlikely bed partners. But they had The Firestones on
Speaker 1: and this is after Jen Cheff and they're engaged. So
Speaker 1: they all go out to dinner, the chefs, the Firestones,
Speaker 1: and they have this big dinner, and Andrew pulls his
Speaker 1: sister Haley aside and says, we have broken up. This
Speaker 1: is a disaster, right dinner, he told he told her
Speaker 1: the night before they started shooting, because Haley had to
Speaker 1: fake it on Oprah.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah that's what she told me. Was before. Sorry, sorry,
Speaker 2: yeah I thought it was at the at the studio.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, this is the day before. So he
Speaker 1: tells the family like, this is a disaster. We are
Speaker 1: completely broken up. I can't stand or she can't stand me.
Speaker 1: This thing's off. The whole thing's off. Flash forward to
Speaker 1: you know, eight hours later, they're at the Oprah Show
Speaker 1: and everybody has to plaster on this smiling face of
Speaker 1: how great the show is, how in love everybody is.
Speaker 1: Now these two families are coming together, and Hayley is like,
Speaker 1: you know, freaking out because she's on the Oprah Show.
Speaker 1: Oprah is the biggest thing in the universe and the
Speaker 1: show is the biggest thing in the world and she
Speaker 1: has to go on in her jewel tone dress and go,
Speaker 1: we love this show and the Bachelor it's so we're
Speaker 1: so happy.
Speaker 2: This is a question, why did he tell them?
Speaker 1: I don't know, let them get through Oprah? I know exactly.
Speaker 2: This poor woman is on Oprah watching and she's having
Speaker 2: to act and protect like Andrew, why did That's on him?
Speaker 2: He shouldn't have told her. Just let her get through
Speaker 2: and tell her after her.
Speaker 1: It's hard to quantify how big the show was back then.
Speaker 1: I mean the ratings were were the number one show
Speaker 1: in the country at the time, because American Idol was
Speaker 1: just about to start or had just started, so, you know,
Speaker 1: Trista to the next couple of seasons and Bob Guiney
Speaker 1: Andrew Firestone. Those were huge seasons for the franchise. So
Speaker 1: I mean Oprah Ellen, I mean every talk show in
Speaker 1: the world, the late night shows. He was so big.
Speaker 1: We were doing jay Leno, so that was on NBC,
Speaker 1: and I remember Trista and a couple of them were
Speaker 1: doing the you know Tonight Show with Jay Leno. Everybody
Speaker 1: wanted a piece of this franchise because it was so massive,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, Oprah was a big fan and loved
Speaker 1: Bob Guiney and was doing stuff with him for a while.
Speaker 1: But those were fun, crazy days wow, because it was
Speaker 1: just it's hard to explain too, because there were just
Speaker 1: no rules and regulations. It was just we're figuring it out.
Speaker 2: So one thing I did love hearing was that the
Speaker 2: batch or made him like a better person. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I have to admit it's not something you hear all
Speaker 2: the time. But like usually people go on a reality
Speaker 2: show and they kind of become worse because there you
Speaker 2: have to have a certain look. It really depends on
Speaker 2: the person. I think you get a mixed bag with
Speaker 2: the Bachelor because there are the people who literally watch
Speaker 2: the show and like had a crush on the person
Speaker 2: who then went on to become the lead, like a
Speaker 2: Catherine Judici and then she was like I literally crushed
Speaker 2: on Sean and went on the show and married him.
Speaker 2: But then there are the people, especially once the social
Speaker 2: media years happened, who were going on the show to
Speaker 2: try to make a career out of it. And so
Speaker 2: if you have a person who's already sort of looking
Speaker 2: to become famous, which requires a certain amount of ego,
Speaker 2: I think there's a difference between I want to become successful, Like,
Speaker 2: if you love acting, you become successful in fame's a
Speaker 2: side effect. But if you're just trying to be famous,
Speaker 2: that's a certain ego. So those people, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: reality TV just digs in even worse to their kind
Speaker 2: of worse qualities.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think the show does one of two things.
Speaker 1: It does what you're talking about, uh, or it humbles you.
Speaker 2: And that's what I mean. I love that that happened
Speaker 2: for Andrew. I think some people like like, I think
Speaker 2: Ben Higgins was already a great guy, but I think
Speaker 2: this show made him an even better Seann Lowe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as another example, you see these people Jojo and Jordan,
Speaker 1: you see some of the people that they respect what happened,
Speaker 1: and they'll even take advantage of the show and the popularity.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they just go away, but the show
Speaker 1: humbles them to a degree that they do some self
Speaker 1: reflection of who am I and what do I stand
Speaker 1: for it, what do I want to do. It's like
Speaker 1: for Andrew, I want to be a part of the community,
Speaker 1: and Seawan Low, I want to be deeper a part
Speaker 1: of the community in Dallas and the church and how
Speaker 1: can I use this platform for good? And so it's
Speaker 1: beautiful to see. It doesn't always affect people that that way, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: but that's human nature.
Speaker 2: Well, what were your other bachelor things? To say?
Speaker 1: One other bachelor thing? And it's kind of to say
Speaker 1: it now we've buried the lead. But congratulations to Colton
Speaker 1: Underwood and Jordan Brown welcoming their baby boy into the family.
Speaker 1: I had to write it down because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of names. Bishop Colton Brown Underwood born September twenty sixth.
Speaker 1: He's a keeper seven pounds twenty inches. All of our love,
Speaker 1: all of our prayers, all of our blessings we were
Speaker 1: at their wedding. I feel like we've kind of walked
Speaker 1: through this process with them. I mean, not intensely with them,
Speaker 1: but it's just we followed them just.
Speaker 2: Posted, which just made me like they texted us over
Speaker 2: the weekend before they posted about it.
Speaker 1: And I get this is all public now, so we're
Speaker 1: not spoiling the Yeah, but it.
Speaker 2: Was cool to be at an event with It really
Speaker 2: was a cool moment to be at an event with
Speaker 2: like Andrew, you know, former bachelor, celebrating him, and then
Speaker 2: get a text about good news with former bachelor Colton.
Speaker 1: He sent us acute picture.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of good bachelor joy.
Speaker 1: By the way, great name, I know, Bishop Colton Brown Underwood.
Speaker 2: He sounds like a successful law firm.
Speaker 1: You already said he is his own law firm. But
Speaker 1: he also just sounds like strong, solid, Yes, just politician.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's a CEO the International spy because you
Speaker 1: have so many names and so many aliases.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy for them. I know this is something
Speaker 2: they really wanted and I'm just glad that it's happened
Speaker 2: for them. And I know they're like so ready for it, so.
Speaker 1: They will be beautiful parents.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and congratulations, guys.
Speaker 1: Look, I want to talk quickly one more thing before
Speaker 1: we wrap this one up. And it kind of goes
Speaker 1: with what you were saying earlier, And you said this
Speaker 1: before about community. So we're kind of going full circle
Speaker 1: here about what's going on politically in this world right
Speaker 1: now and social media and all that. And it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we were meant and you and
Speaker 1: I talk about we're very tribal animals. Everybody is. We
Speaker 1: settle in cities or town.
Speaker 2: There's still small village creatures. Our brains have not advanced
Speaker 2: to go with the technology that we've created.
Speaker 1: And you said this before where people do very big
Speaker 1: performative things on social media that mean nothing, and you
Speaker 1: want to say, you know what, if you really want
Speaker 1: to do something, dive into your community, host, donate, volunteer,
Speaker 1: get involved in your community. That's if we learned anything
Speaker 1: during COVID and being mandatorily shut down and prisoned in
Speaker 1: our own homes and our communities are the most important
Speaker 1: thing to us, and the people that run these communities
Speaker 1: get involved and try to make your community, your neighborhood better.
Speaker 1: And that, to me is what you were talking about
Speaker 1: with The Bachelor and all that was like I just
Speaker 1: wanted to make that community better. It's something I could
Speaker 1: touch yeah.
Speaker 2: I think when if you're wanting to do and you're
Speaker 2: kind of talking about like everything Andrew does, and I
Speaker 2: think that was just our reminder for the weekend. And
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you've really brought that into my life,
Speaker 2: not just with The Bachelor, but with all the events
Speaker 2: you host and now we're doing that here in Austin.
Speaker 2: But I think we see there's all this pressure like
Speaker 2: if there's a cause or something like post about it
Speaker 2: on social media. But the truth is if you want
Speaker 2: to effect change, and affecting change does make you feel good.
Speaker 2: If you're doing good, you feel good. But I think
Speaker 2: you get a lot more from that on a local
Speaker 2: level where you can really see it. And like doing
Speaker 2: experience camps has really helped me with that because it's
Speaker 2: been such an action item, real tangible.
Speaker 1: You're getting your hands to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, was that just the point you want to Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, because we're leading into because we usually don't timestamp
Speaker 1: these things, but it is Monday, the last day of
Speaker 1: the month, last day of the quarter. Good luck everybody,
Speaker 1: But the big vice presidential debate is tomorrow night, Tuesday,
Speaker 1: the first between obviously jd Vance, Ohio senator running mate
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump, Tim Waltz, the governor of Minnesota, running
Speaker 1: mate of Kamala Harris. It is nine o'clock Eastern time. Man,
Speaker 1: I tell you what, East Coast, you just get hammered.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Everything's sports Monday night football. Everything's so
Speaker 1: late there. But it's kind of the same setup, even
Speaker 1: though that they've kind of broken away from the face
Speaker 1: on CBS is the moderator. It is Nora O'Donnell who
Speaker 1: does their evening CBS evening news, and Margaret Brennan, who
Speaker 1: is their kind of chief foreign affairs correspondent, does a
Speaker 1: good job there. There are two, you know, down the middle,
Speaker 1: good very good journalists should be good ninety minutes. They
Speaker 1: are not saying definitively if they're going to cut the microphones,
Speaker 1: they do reserve the right to mute them, is what
Speaker 1: they're saying. The big question is will they fact check
Speaker 1: anybody tonight? Obviously the ABC disaster with what's his face
Speaker 1: already forgot his name? Who does a David Muir, the
Speaker 1: late great David Muir who used to be a newsman
Speaker 1: at ABC before the ratings plummeted and he shot himself
Speaker 1: in the foot. But I think with that disaster, there
Speaker 1: has been a pendulum swing to better journalism. It'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I think there's been a pendulum swing,
Speaker 2: but I think.
Speaker 1: That we'll see. We'll see. It's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 2: I think if you just look at it isolated through
Speaker 2: the lenses of through the lens of debates. My hope
Speaker 2: and guess is that CBS will register that when CNN
Speaker 2: had the Biden Trump debate earlier this year and they
Speaker 2: did not fact check, that that was overall a better
Speaker 2: brand call for CNN than ABC trying to fact check. Well,
Speaker 2: ABC fact quote unquote fact checking live only for one candidate,
Speaker 2: five times for Kamala Harris, zero times for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Just either do it for both or do it for none.
Speaker 2: And I think I would recommend the safest way to
Speaker 2: go is to do it for none, because it's very
Speaker 2: hard live in the moment, and your fact checks are
Speaker 2: going to get fact checked, lack.
Speaker 1: The point of a debate. If you and I are debating,
Speaker 1: my job is to fact check you like that's the
Speaker 1: job of a debate, is that you and I go
Speaker 1: back and forth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I was watching an interview with Dana
Speaker 2: Bash from CNN, and she was saying that that was
Speaker 2: kind of she brought up which I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: remember this. I guess maybe it was before my time
Speaker 2: of watching debates, but that the debates used to be
Speaker 2: hosted by the Presidential Debate Commission.
Speaker 1: Yes, there was a commission, and then the commission started
Speaker 1: farming it out to the networks probably, And this is
Speaker 1: the first one, I think since nineteen eighty eight, if
Speaker 1: my memory is correct, that they're not using that commission
Speaker 1: anymore because they felt like the Republican felt like it
Speaker 1: was too biased. And so this is an independent CBS
Speaker 1: independently ran this to both campaigns, so this is kind
Speaker 1: of the first independent debate in quite some time.
Speaker 2: Oh Okay, I didn't know that. Okay, well, I'm uninformed.
Speaker 2: But she was just talking about how, you know, she
Speaker 2: was sort of talking about like the way debates have
Speaker 2: been done over the years and how CNN like looked
Speaker 2: historically looked at how they'd been done to do theirs,
Speaker 2: and she said, you know, it's like, how do you
Speaker 2: view what a debate should be. We felt that it
Speaker 2: was on the candidates to fact check each other as
Speaker 2: part of the debate, and I do think that's the
Speaker 2: better way to go. Literally, from a brand perspective, you're
Speaker 2: just risking your own brand if you're going to Like
Speaker 2: I think it's safer for CBS, my former employer, I
Speaker 2: would say, let Waltz and Dvance fact check each other
Speaker 2: and just be the pure moderator of the conversation.
Speaker 1: Because look, I can assure you their lips will be moving.
Speaker 1: Therefore they will be telling tall tales, both of them.
Speaker 1: I can just tell you now, both Vance and Waltz
Speaker 1: are going to say things that are not true. That's
Speaker 1: what politicians do. Then later it is incumbent upon the
Speaker 1: media and everybody else can break it down and talk
Speaker 1: about it. But in the moment, it's Vance's job, in
Speaker 1: Waltz's job to stick up for each other's campaigns and
Speaker 1: for their running mates and to do their jobs. That's
Speaker 1: on them. It's not for you know, David Muir, May
Speaker 1: he rest in peace and all these others. So that's
Speaker 1: their job. And so I agree, That's what I was
Speaker 1: taught when I learned debate in high school and then
Speaker 1: and later that's how you do it. And so I agree,
Speaker 1: I think you just got to stay out of it
Speaker 1: because you only have ninety minutes. If you're going to
Speaker 1: stop in fact check NonStop, you can't do a debate
Speaker 1: in ninety minutes. It just it would be impossible. You'd
Speaker 1: be mired down in each and every subject.
Speaker 2: What if you had done debates through the Bachelor?
Speaker 1: We did one. We did one and did it. We
Speaker 1: did one on the steps of Virginia, Virginia Commonwealth. We
Speaker 1: did it at the capitol, and I think the it
Speaker 1: was kind of controversial because the governor who went and
Speaker 1: joined us, I think he was impeached or something right after.
Speaker 1: It was really bad. Yeah, he went down in a scandal.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, that's so funny. Okay, well
Speaker 2: you know what what didn't the Bachelor?
Speaker 1: Well, we've tried it all, but we'll be watching it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting because jad Vance, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I'd say he's probably a more polished politician. Then you
Speaker 1: have Waltz, who's kind of the folksye Minnesota. You know,
Speaker 1: I go to home Depot and you know, as they
Speaker 1: kind of joked about on Saturday Night Live this weekend,
Speaker 1: I haven't been this excited since I saved, you know,
Speaker 1: ten percent on a leaf blower at Maynard's he's I
Speaker 1: know he's been locked in with Pete Budagicic has been
Speaker 1: playing uh jd vance uh in their debate prep. And
Speaker 1: look if the if the Democrats, if they use the
Speaker 1: same prep and kind of routine going in that Kamma
Speaker 1: used to beat Trump in that first debate, then he
Speaker 1: should be ready to go. I mean she was ready wired,
Speaker 1: had all her talking points, she baited Trump perfectly. He
Speaker 1: fell for it. I don't think Jade Vanma.
Speaker 2: For it is a calmer person than a.
Speaker 1: He's a better debater. You know, he's a better politician.
Speaker 2: I've never seen him not reserved, like he just keeps
Speaker 2: an even tones. So we'll be watching. It's a different
Speaker 2: version of theater.
Speaker 1: And you know, look, do you think the Vice President's debate?
Speaker 1: This is how I feel about it. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's it's an unenviable position for both of them because
Speaker 1: all you can do is screw it up for your
Speaker 1: running mate. Like if you do an okay job or
Speaker 1: a good job, great, you're advice this one.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I saw today someone said like,
Speaker 2: if you think the VP debate doesn't matter, actually more
Speaker 2: people watched the VP debate last round than the presidential debate.
Speaker 1: That's because the vice the presidents were I just think
Speaker 1: people were so tired.
Speaker 2: Of the he look like. I think that Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: has very much made Tim Waltz like really an equal
Speaker 2: with her in this From the start, her first interview
Speaker 2: as a candidate she did with Tim Waltz. She didn't
Speaker 2: do it solo. Her first one, it was with him,
Speaker 2: and you know, she's just coming off of being the
Speaker 2: VP herself. So I think this one may matter more
Speaker 2: than even some in recent history. And for me, when
Speaker 2: I'm looking at who I'm going to vote for, I'm
Speaker 2: looking at also what team they're putting into place. So
Speaker 2: I'm looking at, you know, not just who they are,
Speaker 2: but who they're surrounding themselves with. So it matters to me,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to be watching it.
Speaker 1: Well. Look, seventy million, huge, huge ratings for the presidential debate,
Speaker 1: seventy million plus, So it'll be interesting to see what
Speaker 1: the ratings are on Tuesday night when the vps step
Speaker 1: into the ring. We'll be watching because we love that stuff.
Speaker 1: It's great theater. Thank you guys so much for listening.
Speaker 1: It was a great weekend. We have another big one
Speaker 1: coming up. We'll talk about so much more this week,
Speaker 1: but until then, we'll do it in next time because
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