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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Laurence Ema coming to you from the

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<v Speaker 1>home office in sunny Austin, Texas. It's got such a

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<v Speaker 1>good time to be here in Austin this fall. Football weather, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>football weather. Oh, I was going to say, slash Harry

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<v Speaker 1>Potter weather, booky weather, booky weather.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're still waiting for it to come. We actually

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<v Speaker 2>admittedly had a little bit of better weather this past

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<v Speaker 2>weekend in Santa Barbara, California, one of our favorite cities,

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<v Speaker 2>where we went for a big bachelor surprise for one

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<v Speaker 2>of your favorite bachelors of all time, Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>Fireson, one of my favorite human beings period dot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>period dot. He's just his beautiful wife, Evonna Firestone, six

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<v Speaker 1>months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>This secret in for so long. This woman, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we're laughing about it now, but she's was telling me

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<v Speaker 2>she's like Andrew was starting to think, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>like getting suspicious. I was seeming too secretive. But basically,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd been given an Honoree of the Year award by

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<v Speaker 2>this organization Storyteller for all the incredible work he does

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<v Speaker 2>in Santa Barbara to help them they help traumatize kids

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<v Speaker 2>get a better start in life. And Andrew is sort

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<v Speaker 2>of known as the MC of the Santa Barbara Areas.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys does every charity event.

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<v Speaker 1>Does more for more people and more organizations than anybody

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<v Speaker 1>I know. And I host a lot of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is relentless, will do two three four events

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<v Speaker 1>a weekend, sometimes two in the same night, just to

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<v Speaker 1>give back to the community and to help as much

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<v Speaker 1>as he can. And se Yeah, about six months ago, Evanna,

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<v Speaker 1>his wife, reached out to us and said, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew's been given this amazing honor, the twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>Storyteller Honoree of the Year, and I want to surprise

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<v Speaker 1>him with you guys as the people who come on

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<v Speaker 1>stage and announce.

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<v Speaker 2>Him and the award.

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<v Speaker 1>In the announcement anounce the award. Yeah, the award was

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<v Speaker 1>still surprise, so.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't know he was getting the award.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the bizarre thing is they asked him to host,

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<v Speaker 1>So he went under the guys that he was hosting

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<v Speaker 1>the event and him seeing the event and hosting the

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<v Speaker 1>the auction, all of it, which by the way, he did.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's part of this story. But That's how they

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<v Speaker 1>got him there with a few of his friends and

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of his family. What he didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>is that Lauren and I were there to go on

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<v Speaker 1>stage and actually give him this honor. And then his

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<v Speaker 1>whole family rolled out, his sister, his dad, friends from

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<v Speaker 1>out of Faria, friends came in from his old life

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco, and it was such a beautiful, emotional

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<v Speaker 1>He cried what he saw his dad and his sister

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<v Speaker 1>and his family walk out. It was it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know that Evana was so nervous about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a little did you kind of like it?

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<v Speaker 2>I sort of like, here's when I was having fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, at first, we were nervous because we're flying

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<v Speaker 2>in that day, and you know, you never want to

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<v Speaker 2>be the person to screw a surprise. What we had

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<v Speaker 2>told Andrew was Ivanna's birthday was the same weekend, and

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<v Speaker 2>we said we want to come in for Havana's birthday

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<v Speaker 2>and they're, you know, Evanna played it off, well, oh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that'd be great, but we have this event Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>And Andrew's like, you guys don't have to come to

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<v Speaker 2>this event, and we said, any you know, as a friend,

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<v Speaker 2>anytime with you is great. We don't care, we'll come

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<v Speaker 2>to the event. And so we're coming in and on

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<v Speaker 2>the one hand, I didn't want to be the one

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<v Speaker 2>to mess anything up. But on the other hand, when

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<v Speaker 2>we got there, I was kind of really digging into

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<v Speaker 2>like the acting part of it. Like I said, so,

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Waite, are you hosting I'm pretending like I know nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you hosting this event? Is this another one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things you're hosting? Oh? Great, we'll get to see

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<v Speaker 2>you in action. This is so exciting and you maybe

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<v Speaker 2>have the best move of the night. Because Andrew was

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<v Speaker 2>really annoyed, like he was. He was really worried about

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<v Speaker 2>us being he's very protective of us, and he knew

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't want us. First of all, He's like, don't

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<v Speaker 2>come to this charity event. You don't have to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're like, no, no, we love you guys. We're

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna come and then we're gonna have a great weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he's like okay, okay. So we're sitting at

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<v Speaker 2>the table, well, one of the front tables, with him,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously this whole thing had been set up with

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<v Speaker 2>the two co chairs we had FaceTime with them. We'd

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<v Speaker 2>gone overall what we were going to do, the videos.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything had been so choreographed, obviously behind Andrew's back, and

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<v Speaker 2>so when they called us up to the stage, Andrew's like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the f Like, why are they doing this to you?

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<v Speaker 2>He was so mad, and so I leaned over. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry. They just asked me to do a quick favor.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm totally good with this, don't worry. And that was

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<v Speaker 2>because he was immediately so pissed off that the co

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<v Speaker 2>Chairs had asked you and I'd go out. You knew

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<v Speaker 2>how you would react. You knew that he would be

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<v Speaker 2>afraid that if people saw you there, they'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Harrison's here, We'll just we'll ask him to participate

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<v Speaker 2>in some way. And so you played it off like

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<v Speaker 2>that had happened. So he was actually furious. So we

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<v Speaker 2>went on stage and I got to give the co

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<v Speaker 2>Chairs and Havana a shout out. They had the brilliant idea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>take this idea, you guys, and use it as something

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<v Speaker 2>in your life if you need to. It was so smart.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a fake honor recreated using the letters of

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew's name. It was an anagram, so in the brochure

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<v Speaker 2>even it said that the honorey of the night was

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Stephanie Rowan. They had a fake bio made of her,

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<v Speaker 2>fake photos of this person, and then the co chairs

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<v Speaker 2>got up and they said, Okay, tonight we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be honoring doctor Stephanie Rowan, and we'd like to welcome

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<v Speaker 2>Lauren Zema and Chris Harrison to the stage. This is

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<v Speaker 2>when Andrew freaks out. We get up there and what

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<v Speaker 2>we had planned was they had made a graphic so

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<v Speaker 2>that we said, you know, actually, uh, we got to

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<v Speaker 2>get something's off with this graphic. We got to get

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<v Speaker 2>this fixed. The letters then rearranged to reveal the real

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<v Speaker 2>honery of the night is Andrew Firestone. At that moment,

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<v Speaker 2>his family and friends who were there in secret, they'd

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<v Speaker 2>been hidden in the back room. They walked out, Andrew

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<v Speaker 2>was crying. His son Brooks later told me, I've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen my dad cry before.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, yes, I know. His kids were there, his beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>daughter Anya, the boys Brooks and Shane obviously Evanna, tons

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<v Speaker 1>of friends of his from his old days, his family.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really special. So we give him first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I laid into the Stephanie row and I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I went up. I said, Stephanie Rowan is such a

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<v Speaker 1>gift to this community. And I started in my speech

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<v Speaker 1>on Steph, doctor Stephanie Rowan, who doesn't exist, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren cut me off and broke down the anagram. But

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<v Speaker 1>they went so deep with the fake that they had

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of Steph a Stephanie Rowan, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>an amalgamation apparently of Andrew as a woman, and they

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<v Speaker 1>took this AI version comes through of Andrew as a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they had all these deep kind of Easter

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<v Speaker 1>egg fakes and behind the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>They said that she was into birds, Andrew was a burger.

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<v Speaker 1>They added all these like funny little Easter eggs that

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Andrew never would have seen but later was quite funny.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we presented the award. They there was this

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful video tribute that his family took part in. The

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<v Speaker 1>kids were very much a part of. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>were about to bring Andrew up on stage. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>you know Andrew Firestone, this guy gives it one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and forty eight percent every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>And Andrew, like me, is a theater nerd.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a theater nerd. He loves musical theater.

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<v Speaker 2>He and I will. You know, I think that you

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<v Speaker 2>and Evanna connect a little more on which is interesting

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<v Speaker 2>because I know Andrew's a former football player, But actually

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<v Speaker 2>you and Evanna very much connect on like your sportiness

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<v Speaker 2>and your competitiveness and tequila. Yeah, well we're all in

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<v Speaker 2>a tequila. They don't take tequila for yourself. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>for you. Like if we all play pickleball, you and

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<v Speaker 2>Vonna actually are on a team, and you guys really

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<v Speaker 2>get Andrew and I to being cheerleaders.

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<v Speaker 1>We're very competitive.

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<v Speaker 2>But then if and if I start singing a song

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<v Speaker 2>from you know, White Christmas, Andrew jumps in. He knows

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<v Speaker 2>all the words.

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<v Speaker 1>Take guys and ulstairs.

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<v Speaker 2>If he starts singing guys and dolls, I'm right there

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<v Speaker 2>with him. And so it's really lovely when you have

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<v Speaker 2>a good couple friend who loves each other, You love

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<v Speaker 2>each other, and then you all also love each other.

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<v Speaker 1>In a little backstory, so at Andrew and Evanna's wedding

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<v Speaker 1>many many years ago, their recession was to a song

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<v Speaker 1>that they just started out of nowhere, a cappella with

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<v Speaker 1>the choir at the church and the whole thing was

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<v Speaker 1>Living on a Prayer by bon Jovi, and it started

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<v Speaker 1>like really as part of the ceremony, You're like, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 1>I know those words? Is that? And then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden the song started and we all started singing

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<v Speaker 1>in the church and so that was the start of

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<v Speaker 1>something beautiful. And then Andrew has sung to me a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times, once at a Direct Relief Foundation event

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<v Speaker 1>where he introduced me via a song, and then at

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<v Speaker 1>our wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>You should post that video.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to post that. It was pretty tragic, pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 2>When I say he's a theater kid, I'm not like

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<v Speaker 2>commending his vocals is they're only okay. Here's the secret.

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<v Speaker 2>You can be a theater kid who in musicals and

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<v Speaker 2>not actually be that great at singing because there's characters you.

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<v Speaker 1>To go big and just yeah, really loud, really big.

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<v Speaker 2>Like and Annie, I was Miss Hannigan one year, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's more of a growl than a singing. When you're

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<v Speaker 2>singing licktull Girls, Lick the girls, So you just andreck

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<v Speaker 2>isn't exactly on pitch, but yeah, he sang to you

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<v Speaker 2>at Direct Relief and then at our wedding. We asked

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew to mc our rehearsal dinner and he did a

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<v Speaker 2>really funny thing where my favorite song is I Want

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<v Speaker 2>to Dance with Somebody by Whitney Houston, and he at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the night said I would like to

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<v Speaker 2>do a reading from the poetry of w. Houston. And

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<v Speaker 2>it took everybody a minute. He's going the clock strikes

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<v Speaker 2>upon the hour and the sun begins to fade, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinking, wow, this is a beautiful love poem. Still

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<v Speaker 2>enough time to figure out how to chase my blues away,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're starting to get it, and then he gets

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<v Speaker 2>the entire rehearsal dinner to sing I Want to Dance

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<v Speaker 2>with Somebody, and it was wonderful. So we just thought

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew always brings a song, and my musical theater teacher

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<v Speaker 2>always told me and On a song, so we thought,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to bring him up on stage to actually

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<v Speaker 2>get the award with a song. And you had the

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<v Speaker 2>great idea of Living on a Prayer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have to call back to Live in on

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<v Speaker 1>a Prayer, which was their wedding song. And you you

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<v Speaker 1>woke up one morning and you just handed me some lyrics.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, I got it. I wrote the song. Lauren

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<v Speaker 1>Ziema created an original knockoff obviously set to Living on

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<v Speaker 1>a Prayer by bon Jovi, all about Andrew. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>the brilliant part, not just the lyrics, which were beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>and poignant and worked, but it was short. What Lauren

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<v Speaker 1>did is what everyone should do with karaoke and every

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<v Speaker 1>song and every joke. Make it quick where it's still

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<v Speaker 1>funny before it gets weird and awkward.

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<v Speaker 2>And on a high note. I always say that karaoke

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<v Speaker 2>it gets bad because you sing the whole song. If

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<v Speaker 2>everybody got and then you're waiting for your turn, if

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<v Speaker 2>everybody got up at karaoke and it was like a

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<v Speaker 2>minute long version of that song, it would just be

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<v Speaker 2>such a bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>High Yeah, ninety seconds tops.

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<v Speaker 2>We just did the first verse through a chorus, right,

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<v Speaker 2>brought Andrew up on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I rewrote the lyrics a little bit, you know. Instead of, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we're living on a Prayer, it was we love Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing started. I had to start it that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was nervous because you're a much better singer than

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<v Speaker 1>I am and a better performer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, let me take this moment in hold

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<v Speaker 2>on pau Sure, babe, you have always always chastised my voice.

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<v Speaker 2>I really need to take this woman in. No no,

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<v Speaker 2>did I prove myself to you with the living on

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<v Speaker 2>a prayer performance?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm going to post a video of what happened

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. It's the Voldemort impersonation that's different than singing,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the voice that can send me over.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes sing in the home and you're like, babe, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not sounding that great.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you have a beautiful voice, a much better voice

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<v Speaker 1>than I do. You do you have a great singing voice.

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<v Speaker 1>And she killed it. I started it off, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was a little nervous, and but I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's what would Andrew do? You go big? And I

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<v Speaker 1>started off with Andrew was on my TV show. It

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go that well. He didn't find love. Oh no bad,

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<v Speaker 1>So you could tell whether that that wash. But I

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<v Speaker 1>went for it. And then you jumped in this batch.

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<v Speaker 2>But this bachelor was handsome, mankind, and we knew he'd

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<v Speaker 2>find an amazing life and love, real love with Havana, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We jumped in together for our guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew a great family man.

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<v Speaker 1>And a good friend too.

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<v Speaker 2>This pa or no this time, I already forgot my

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<v Speaker 2>own called Firestone. He's a lot too love. We'll give

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<v Speaker 2>it a shot. And it was great. So Andrew comes

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<v Speaker 2>up and I got to give him credit because after

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<v Speaker 2>a very emotional couple of moments, and here's something that

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<v Speaker 2>we did work with storyteller on. And it's one thing

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<v Speaker 2>you're always so good at from your production background, is like,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing when you're doing an event, a local

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<v Speaker 2>charity event, a wedding, a sixtieth birthday party, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to produce the event, and that means you have to

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<v Speaker 2>think about, okay, like how is this timeline going? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>how much do people need in cocktail hour? And how

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<v Speaker 2>long should a toast be? And you're very good at

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<v Speaker 2>that down to I always think of it our wedding

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<v Speaker 2>when you thought where's the sun going to be hitting,

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<v Speaker 2>how's the lighting going to be at the ceremony? And

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of worked with a storyteller on Andrew and

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<v Speaker 2>the people in the audience have to like process all this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're surprising them with this honoree. Andrew's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be surprised, He's going to be emotional, he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to see his family there, and that was part of

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<v Speaker 2>us doing the song. We wanted to just do something

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<v Speaker 2>silly so that he could like have a second to

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<v Speaker 2>gather himself before coming on stage and giving this and

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<v Speaker 2>accepting the award, because he was going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>speak without knowing it. And he just absolutely crushed his speech.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so impressed. I know, he comes back down

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<v Speaker 2>at The really funny part was he comes back down

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<v Speaker 2>after the speech. He gave a beautiful short speech about

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<v Speaker 2>how events like this really are. He's the one who

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<v Speaker 2>benefits because their therapy for him, He loves doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>The community is so important to him. And then he

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, he said, okay, I've taken up enough

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<v Speaker 2>of your time. Everybody. The bar is open, and he

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<v Speaker 2>comes back down. He turns to me and goes, I

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<v Speaker 2>blacked out up there, Did I think Havanna? I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't. I said, it's okay, you're about to go

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<v Speaker 2>do the live auction. You'll have a chance to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it was like an Oscars moment where it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh wait, I forgot to thank my family.

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<v Speaker 1>That just happened. By the way, was it the Emmy's

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<v Speaker 1>when the guy got back, Yeah, he won another award.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, thank god I forgot to you know, thank

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<v Speaker 1>my family. Yeah, but it was a great night and

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<v Speaker 1>then we ended up. You know, the night kind of

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<v Speaker 1>continued into the week hours of the morning, but we

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<v Speaker 1>had to like rally because the next day was actually

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<v Speaker 1>Vanna's birthday, and we all got back together.

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<v Speaker 2>And then celebrated, celebrated our girl of Honna.

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<v Speaker 1>We packed a lot into it, and then before we

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<v Speaker 1>left town, we caught Shane's soccer game in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>so we did it all. We did it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen. It makes me think, you know, just the importance

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<v Speaker 2>of community. Andrew and Ivanna have such a great community.

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<v Speaker 2>They're close with their neighbors. They're very invested in their community,

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<v Speaker 2>and all the studies show, right, I'm sounding like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying something obvious, but I don't think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people do it today. You get the most joy in

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<v Speaker 2>life from your community. And I will admit and not

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<v Speaker 2>to like make things a bummer, but I did think

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<v Speaker 2>to myself at one point this weekend, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that the Bachelor world has this anymore, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>Bachelor Nation thing and the community of it. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you were so good, and I tip my

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<v Speaker 2>hat to you on how you created the Bachelor community

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<v Speaker 2>because sometimes you'll say things to me, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've been together six years, but obviously you haven't told

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<v Speaker 2>me your whole life story, which is great.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's slowly, yeah, yeah, we have time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we got time. We keep learning about each other.

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<v Speaker 2>But like you mentioned to me this weekend, because Andrew's

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<v Speaker 2>sister was at the event, and I never met her

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<v Speaker 2>really and you seem to know her really well, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you know Haley And you're like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I hosted direct relief events for her, And I just

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<v Speaker 2>think about that, and I think you went so above

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<v Speaker 2>and beyond in a way that I don't even think

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<v Speaker 2>got covered by the media because it's not that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because headlines love drama and it's not that drama. But

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes, you did things like you hosted events

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<v Speaker 2>for charity events for mishell money. You hosted charity events

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<v Speaker 2>not just for Andrew Firestone, but for his family and

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<v Speaker 2>what they were doing. You took all this time to

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<v Speaker 2>invest with the people on the show and build relationships

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<v Speaker 2>with them behind the scenes in a way that like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know that the fans knew because social

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<v Speaker 2>media didn't exist at the time, so you weren't like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>here I am at Haley Firestones event and I offered

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<v Speaker 2>to host it for her, you know, for free, just

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<v Speaker 2>giving your time, and that created the family and Bachelor Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>And it came you know that people always asked if so,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just commending you, and people were I took that serious.

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<v Speaker 1>People asked, you know, are you close to people on

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<v Speaker 1>the show? And I said, you know, not really. When

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<v Speaker 1>they were on the show, I knew the bats or

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<v Speaker 1>the bats arette, but you know, the major the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five or thirty contestants or however many they use. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really get to know till sometimes later, like

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Money when she called and asked me to come

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<v Speaker 1>do that event for her dad, for her late father,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when we became friends and I got to

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<v Speaker 1>know other people in that way after the show. But

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<v Speaker 1>you said yes and no, Yeah, I said yes because

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<v Speaker 1>it meant a lot to me, and you know, these

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<v Speaker 1>people had given their time. And by the way, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of a shout out to Michelle Money, her husband Mike Weir,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the captain for the President's Cup golf event

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. It's a huge, huge event where the PGA

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<v Speaker 1>Tour guys, kind of the guys from the United States

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<v Speaker 1>take on the rest of the world, Asia and Australia

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. Our friend Jason Day was a part

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<v Speaker 1>of this on Mike Weir's team, so it was a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal that Mike was the captain. The captain's wives

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<v Speaker 1>are a big deal in this as well. It's this

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<v Speaker 1>really cool family team event. And it was Michelle Money's

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<v Speaker 1>birthday actually Sat Day as well, so happy Birthday Money.

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<v Speaker 1>The international team lost, but they were outmatched. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they were out gone. Our team was really good, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was just fun to see. It's fun to see

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<v Speaker 1>her life take off and so happy. And I love

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<v Speaker 1>Mike we Air now and it was fun to watch

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<v Speaker 1>them on TV all weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Well see, And that's the thing you take the time

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<v Speaker 2>to support. And I'm sorry I'm just tooting your horn here,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's something I love about you and something I've

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<v Speaker 2>really taken from you. And I think it was in

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<v Speaker 2>your upbringing, you know, in your community in Dallas and

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<v Speaker 2>how your parents and your grandparents raised you and your family.

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<v Speaker 2>You do the right thing and you help people and

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<v Speaker 2>you show up for people and all that stuff happened

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes, and yeah, that really created Bachelor Nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a lot of people would come off the show

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<v Speaker 2>and say, well, I went through all this stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>then the show wasn't really there for me when I

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<v Speaker 2>needed them.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, I think there was some guilt there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was some guilt, like, well, like.

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<v Speaker 2>What you going through?

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<v Speaker 1>But well when Ben Higgins was like you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>these people would come on the show and they would

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<v Speaker 1>just be jettisoned off, and it took me a while

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<v Speaker 1>to catch on what was happening where these people were

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of thrown because look, we'll get into this

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<v Speaker 1>later in the week with the Dancing with the Stars

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<v Speaker 1>thing and people being you know, off the show and

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<v Speaker 1>having issues with it or I get that. I get

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<v Speaker 1>it from both sides. It's like, you have this massive network.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't wake up in the morning and go, how

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<v Speaker 1>can we take care of Wells Adams or Ben Higgins

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<v Speaker 1>or well because it's a business, right, it's a business,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they kind of just throw you back into

0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the ocean and you're like, oh, but you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just I felt a little guilt and

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<v Speaker 1>emboldened to try and help as much as I could

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<v Speaker 1>because these people. But that's still being used by the machine.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's doing the right thing, and I think we've

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<v Speaker 2>lost that a lot. I'm not just talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>Bachelor and I'm like soapboxy, but I've never I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like the phrase it's business. It's not personal like on

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<v Speaker 2>the one hand, sure to a certain extent, but to me,

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<v Speaker 2>that line is drawn when it's then about but are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing the right thing like business?

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't absolve you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, business isn't personal. You can't make every

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<v Speaker 2>business decision emotionally and you have to prioritize fits and

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<v Speaker 2>things like that. But I do think you can ask yourself, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>but am I doing the wrong thing here? And like

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<v Speaker 2>I think about as silly as it is, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not silly, but it's sticking with me. When we were

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<v Speaker 2>in Ireland over the summer, we did a tour of

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<v Speaker 2>the of Dublin and we were learning about the Guinness

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<v Speaker 2>family and everywhere we went, our guide was like, well,

0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.600
<v Speaker 2>the Guinness family redid this park. The Guinness family and

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<v Speaker 2>he was talking about how they invested so much back

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<v Speaker 2>into Ireland. And he's told us that when someone used

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<v Speaker 2>to work at the Guinness Company, right, one, that man's

0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.800
<v Speaker 2>son was guaranteed a job at the Guinness Company in

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<v Speaker 2>the future. And two if that man died while he

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<v Speaker 2>was working at Guinness for whatever reason, yep, they paid

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<v Speaker 2>his salary to the family forever, like they just took

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<v Speaker 2>care of the family. And I thought, Wow, that's just

0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.600
<v Speaker 2>a company doing the right thing. And I think, like

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<v Speaker 2>the last few years, I don't know, there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of performative companies doing the right thing, like on

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<v Speaker 2>social media, but I don't know that they're really doing

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<v Speaker 2>the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, A lot of it's bullsh it. Brings me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me bitch in one more Bachelor thing and then

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<v Speaker 1>I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask I have even more Bachelor things to mention, So go.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, because I want to get to it. It will

0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.080
<v Speaker 1>lead us into the political thing we're in talk.

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<v Speaker 2>I have got one more Andrew things, So can I

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<v Speaker 2>go get that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then so one thing I wanted to ask you

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<v Speaker 2>about was when we were writing the speech to give

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew the award, you kind of worked in some stuff

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<v Speaker 2>about Andrew season that I didn't know, because I haven't seen.

0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:32.280
<v Speaker 2>The first seasons of the show I watched were around

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<v Speaker 2>like the Ben Higgins, Chris Soul's, Caitlin Bristow years. So

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<v Speaker 2>I have never seen Andrew season.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he's two thousand and three, two thousand and four.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was like a sophomore in high school, I know,

0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:45.560
<v Speaker 2>and I could have watched it. I was in high

0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:47.359
<v Speaker 2>school at the time, but like, honestly, my mom was

0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:49.159
<v Speaker 2>a Housewives babe, so I watched house I was with

0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:51.399
<v Speaker 2>my mom some people their family or Bachelor people and

0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:56.199
<v Speaker 2>they watched Bachelor. So you had had us work in

0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.399
<v Speaker 2>some stuff about like what a disaster Andrew season was

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.719
<v Speaker 2>for him. I don't think it was ratings wise, and

0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:04.920
<v Speaker 2>it was a huge success. And I was like, babe,

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:06.359
<v Speaker 2>are you sure, and you go no, no, no. The crowd's

0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:07.800
<v Speaker 2>going to get this, and they did. They laughed at

0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.040
<v Speaker 2>the jokes he wrote. He wrote a joke about the

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 2>girl who said that the Olive Garden was her favorite

0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Italian restaurant. I'm not getting these references, but I'm saying them,

0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:16.480
<v Speaker 2>and I'm trusting you because I know you're good at

0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:20.679
<v Speaker 2>what you do. But what was well and then I

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:23.000
<v Speaker 2>was kind of talking to Andrew's friends later, and his

0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:28.840
<v Speaker 2>friend said something that was profound. He said, the Bachelor

0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:33.000
<v Speaker 2>actually really the experience really kind of like humbled Andrew

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<v Speaker 2>and made him a better person, Not that he was

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<v Speaker 2>a bad guy, but what was the like, what was

0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:41.720
<v Speaker 2>the horror that Andrew went through and how did it

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<v Speaker 2>make him a good person?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think worked that season?

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<v Speaker 1>If I was going to therapize this, as I always do,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there were a lot of things at play.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all personal. You know, Andrew's very much the

0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.919
<v Speaker 1>youngest of his family, a very esteemed well.

0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Known, like he's the youngest sibling by like, his siblings

0:22:58.160 --> 0:22:59.119
<v Speaker 2>are ten years.

0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Ago by fall, and so I think it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the first time Andrew was wearing the Firestone name

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:10.280
<v Speaker 1>on the back of his jersey, more so than anybody

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:11.959
<v Speaker 1>else in his family. He was putting it on this

0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 1>really grand scale. And I think for the first time

0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Andrew felt the responsibility of that weight, and it took

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:24.199
<v Speaker 1>him a minute to realize that and to rationalize it

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and deal with it in a profound way. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it I think it hit him harder. I think at

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<v Speaker 1>first he's like, oh, yea, I'm gonna do this show

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:32.680
<v Speaker 1>and there's women fun. You know. He was kind of

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:36.440
<v Speaker 1>footloose and fancy for he was young, and his family

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:39.840
<v Speaker 1>was very established. His dad obviously the winery, was cooking,

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:42.360
<v Speaker 1>his brother, I think had just started eight h five brewery,

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and Adam was doing his thing, and his daughter, his daughter,

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.920
<v Speaker 1>his older sister, Hayley, you know, was very involved in

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the community. And so I think Andrew was just really

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:55.120
<v Speaker 1>coming into his own as a firestone. And I think

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 1>when that name was put on the back of his

0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 1>jersey and he really had to carry it for the

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 1>first time so publicly on network TV, he I think

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.639
<v Speaker 1>I think he got it. He's like, oh, this is important.

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 1>I can't I can't ruin this or soil this. And

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 1>then on top of that, you have the other side

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:13.920
<v Speaker 1>of the coin, which is I have to be the

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Bachelor and this very new show that we were still

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:21.160
<v Speaker 1>figuring out things. The show was not evolved completely. It

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 1>was I wouldn't say half baked, but at that point

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 1>he was still three quarters baked.

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:26.880
<v Speaker 2>What was Andrew? Was he the second or third?

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 1>No, he was Gosh, it would have been Alex Michelle

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>and then Aaron Bergee, and then Trista, and then we

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:36.199
<v Speaker 1>had Bob Guinney. I think he was five, he was

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>five incarnations.

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:38.919
<v Speaker 2>In and he was still in that time when it

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 2>was truly this aspirational guy.

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 1>You right, diamond in the rough, you have a chance

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>to find love with a firestone.

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if i'd call Andrew diamond in

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:48.920
<v Speaker 2>the rough. I think Diamond in the roff was later.

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:51.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Andrew was a firestone, a firestone tires.

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 1>He was the like, right, But I guess the point

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:57.679
<v Speaker 1>is it was this fairy tale. He was the fairy Yes, yes, yes.

0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:00.679
<v Speaker 2>So he you're you're kind of I still figuring the

0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 2>show out. What do you remember most about that season?

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:07.200
<v Speaker 1>The thing I remember most because back then I really

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>leaned into getting to know everybody before the show.

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.119
<v Speaker 2>And you and Andrew are very close in age only

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 2>a few yes.

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. At the time, he was probably I don't know,

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine maybe, and I was

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>like thirty one thirty two, so we were only a

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>few years apart, still are. And then I remember we

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>went to lunch, just Andrew and I and Joshua was

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>just born, I mean two thousand and one. So Joshua

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 1>was only like three years old. So I remember taking

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Joshua to this lunch. We were down in Santa Monica,

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:37.159
<v Speaker 1>and I put Joshua in his high chair and we

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:40.439
<v Speaker 1>ordered our food and we're sitting there eating, you know,

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 1>hamburgers and French fries whatever, and I just remember all

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:44.640
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, I'm talking to Andrew and I see

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 1>this French fry just hit him in the face. And

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Joshua had just picked up a handful of

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>French fries and threw it at Andrew. And Andrew as

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>we know him now, quickly picks up a handful of

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:57.679
<v Speaker 1>French fries and throws him in Joshua's face, and a

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.400
<v Speaker 1>food fight ensues at this table, and I'm like, what

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:02.679
<v Speaker 1>the hell is that? But that just like sums up

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Andrew of like, he didn't get mad, he didn't get

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>he just like, yeah, I'm in on this, and that's

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>how we kind of that's how our relationship started. We

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>became dear friends ever since. And I remember Andrew two

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 1>things about him. Number One, uh, the wine. Obviously, he

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 1>has a winery at his disposal. We were I think

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:24.440
<v Speaker 1>serving the women Kendall Jackson, no offense, kJ, but it's

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 1>not the greatest stuff. And Andrew after night one, was like,

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>can I bring in my own wine and beer? And

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that's when Andrew's like, I'm going to start serving firestone

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>in eight o five and this palette that took up

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the entire doorway shows up. The next day of he

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>brought his own wine in and he was the first

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 1>one because he actually got engaged to this girl named

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>jen Chef. Jeff. Yeah, he bought his own. She became

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>the bacherette later after they broke up. He's the first

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 1>person who said, no, I'm buying my own ring. We

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>were using to Corey rings back there. This is before

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>what's his name, Neil Lane. We used Paul to Corey,

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>which honestly, you are nicer rings, but they changed over

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.439
<v Speaker 1>to Neil Lane. But yeah, to Corey He's like, no, no,

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm buying this. If I'm getting engaged, this is incumbent

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>upon me to do this. So that's the kind of

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>guy Andrew was.

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Andrew doing the right thing.

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then they broke up and Jen Chef became

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the bacheorette. And Andrew went on to find love with Evana.

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Can we tell his sister's Oprah story.

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a great story.

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Tell it.

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so his older sister Haley. So back in the day,

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Oprah was a huge fan of the show, and all

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the producers were and.

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 2>And you have to think about how big the Oprah

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Show was at that time.

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Oprah Show is still massive. And Oprah and

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Bob Guiney became really good friends for a while, and

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>he was on Oprah Show a while, I being really

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 1>unlikely unlikely bed partners. But they had The Firestones on

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>and this is after Jen Cheff and they're engaged. So

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>they all go out to dinner, the chefs, the Firestones,

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and they have this big dinner, and Andrew pulls his

0:27:56.119 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 1>sister Haley aside and says, we have broken up. This

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.639
<v Speaker 1>is a disaster, right dinner, he told he told her

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the night before they started shooting, because Haley had to

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>fake it on Oprah.

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah that's what she told me. Was before. Sorry, sorry,

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 2>yeah I thought it was at the at the studio.

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, this is the day before. So he

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>tells the family like, this is a disaster. We are

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>completely broken up. I can't stand or she can't stand me.

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>This thing's off. The whole thing's off. Flash forward to

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, eight hours later, they're at the Oprah Show

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>and everybody has to plaster on this smiling face of

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>how great the show is, how in love everybody is.

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Now these two families are coming together, and Hayley is like,

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, freaking out because she's on the Oprah Show.

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Oprah is the biggest thing in the universe and the

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>show is the biggest thing in the world and she

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>has to go on in her jewel tone dress and go,

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 1>we love this show and the Bachelor it's so we're

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>so happy.

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 2>This is a question, why did he tell them?

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, let them get through Oprah? I know exactly.

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 2>This poor woman is on Oprah watching and she's having

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 2>to act and protect like Andrew, why did That's on him?

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 2>He shouldn't have told her. Just let her get through

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:07.479
<v Speaker 2>and tell her after her.

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to quantify how big the show was back then.

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean the ratings were were the number one show

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>in the country at the time, because American Idol was

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>just about to start or had just started, so, you know,

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Trista to the next couple of seasons and Bob Guiney

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Firestone. Those were huge seasons for the franchise. So

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean Oprah Ellen, I mean every talk show in

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the world, the late night shows. He was so big.

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>We were doing jay Leno, so that was on NBC,

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and I remember Trista and a couple of them were

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>doing the you know Tonight Show with Jay Leno. Everybody

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted a piece of this franchise because it was so massive,

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.479
<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, Oprah was a big fan and loved

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Bob Guiney and was doing stuff with him for a while.

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>But those were fun, crazy days wow, because it was

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 1>just it's hard to explain too, because there were just

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>no rules and regulations. It was just we're figuring it out.

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 2>So one thing I did love hearing was that the

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 2>batch or made him like a better person. I don't know,

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.239
<v Speaker 2>I have to admit it's not something you hear all

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 2>the time. But like usually people go on a reality

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>show and they kind of become worse because there you

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 2>have to have a certain look. It really depends on

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 2>the person. I think you get a mixed bag with

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 2>the Bachelor because there are the people who literally watch

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 2>the show and like had a crush on the person

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 2>who then went on to become the lead, like a

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Catherine Judici and then she was like I literally crushed

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 2>on Sean and went on the show and married him.

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 2>But then there are the people, especially once the social

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 2>media years happened, who were going on the show to

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 2>try to make a career out of it. And so

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 2>if you have a person who's already sort of looking

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 2>to become famous, which requires a certain amount of ego,

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a difference between I want to become successful, Like,

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 2>if you love acting, you become successful in fame's a

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 2>side effect. But if you're just trying to be famous,

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 2>that's a certain ego. So those people, you know, maybe

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 2>reality TV just digs in even worse to their kind

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 2>of worse qualities.

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think the show does one of two things.

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>It does what you're talking about, uh, or it humbles you.

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I mean. I love that that happened

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>for Andrew. I think some people like like, I think

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Ben Higgins was already a great guy, but I think

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 2>this show made him an even better Seann Lowe.

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as another example, you see these people Jojo and Jordan,

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>you see some of the people that they respect what happened,

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and they'll even take advantage of the show and the popularity.

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying they just go away, but the show

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>humbles them to a degree that they do some self

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>reflection of who am I and what do I stand

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>for it, what do I want to do. It's like

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>for Andrew, I want to be a part of the community,

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and Seawan Low, I want to be deeper a part

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>of the community in Dallas and the church and how

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>can I use this platform for good? And so it's

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>beautiful to see. It doesn't always affect people that that way, unfortunately,

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>but that's human nature.

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, what were your other bachelor things? To say?

0:31:56.520 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>One other bachelor thing? And it's kind of to say

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 1>it now we've buried the lead. But congratulations to Colton

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Underwood and Jordan Brown welcoming their baby boy into the family.

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I had to write it down because there's a lot

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>of names. Bishop Colton Brown Underwood born September twenty sixth.

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>He's a keeper seven pounds twenty inches. All of our love,

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>all of our prayers, all of our blessings we were

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>at their wedding. I feel like we've kind of walked

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>through this process with them. I mean, not intensely with them,

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's just we followed them just.

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Posted, which just made me like they texted us over

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 2>the weekend before they posted about it.

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And I get this is all public now, so we're

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>not spoiling the Yeah, but it.

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Was cool to be at an event with It really

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 2>was a cool moment to be at an event with

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>like Andrew, you know, former bachelor, celebrating him, and then

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 2>get a text about good news with former bachelor Colton.

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>He sent us acute picture.

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of good bachelor joy.

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>By the way, great name, I know, Bishop Colton Brown Underwood.

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 2>He sounds like a successful law firm.

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 1>You already said he is his own law firm. But

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 1>he also just sounds like strong, solid, Yes, just politician.

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe he's a CEO the International spy because you

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>have so many names and so many aliases.

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy for them. I know this is something

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 2>they really wanted and I'm just glad that it's happened

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 2>for them. And I know they're like so ready for it, so.

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>They will be beautiful parents.

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and congratulations, guys.

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Look, I want to talk quickly one more thing before

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>we wrap this one up. And it kind of goes

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>with what you were saying earlier, And you said this

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>before about community. So we're kind of going full circle

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 1>here about what's going on politically in this world right

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 1>now and social media and all that. And it's like,

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we were meant and you and

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I talk about we're very tribal animals. Everybody is. We

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>settle in cities or town.

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 2>There's still small village creatures. Our brains have not advanced

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 2>to go with the technology that we've created.

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>And you said this before where people do very big

0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>performative things on social media that mean nothing, and you

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 1>want to say, you know what, if you really want

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to do something, dive into your community, host, donate, volunteer,

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>get involved in your community. That's if we learned anything

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 1>during COVID and being mandatorily shut down and prisoned in

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>our own homes and our communities are the most important

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>thing to us, and the people that run these communities

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>get involved and try to make your community, your neighborhood better.

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:32.919
<v Speaker 1>And that, to me is what you were talking about

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>with The Bachelor and all that was like I just

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 1>wanted to make that community better. It's something I could

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 1>touch yeah.

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:39.879
<v Speaker 2>I think when if you're wanting to do and you're

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of talking about like everything Andrew does, and I

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 2>think that was just our reminder for the weekend. And

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, you've really brought that into my life,

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 2>not just with The Bachelor, but with all the events

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 2>you host and now we're doing that here in Austin.

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 2>But I think we see there's all this pressure like

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 2>if there's a cause or something like post about it

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 2>on social media. But the truth is if you want

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 2>to effect change, and affecting change does make you feel good.

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 2>If you're doing good, you feel good. But I think

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 2>you get a lot more from that on a local

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 2>level where you can really see it. And like doing

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 2>experience camps has really helped me with that because it's

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 2>been such an action item, real tangible.

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 1>You're getting your hands to you.

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, was that just the point you want to Yeah.

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, because we're leading into because we usually don't timestamp

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>these things, but it is Monday, the last day of

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the month, last day of the quarter. Good luck everybody,

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>But the big vice presidential debate is tomorrow night, Tuesday,

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the first between obviously jd Vance, Ohio senator running mate

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>for Donald Trump, Tim Waltz, the governor of Minnesota, running

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>mate of Kamala Harris. It is nine o'clock Eastern time. Man,

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I tell you what, East Coast, you just get hammered.

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. Everything's sports Monday night football. Everything's so

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 1>late there. But it's kind of the same setup, even

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 1>though that they've kind of broken away from the face

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 1>on CBS is the moderator. It is Nora O'Donnell who

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 1>does their evening CBS evening news, and Margaret Brennan, who

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>is their kind of chief foreign affairs correspondent, does a

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>good job there. There are two, you know, down the middle,

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>good very good journalists should be good ninety minutes. They

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>are not saying definitively if they're going to cut the microphones,

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>they do reserve the right to mute them, is what

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>they're saying. The big question is will they fact check

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 1>anybody tonight? Obviously the ABC disaster with what's his face

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>already forgot his name? Who does a David Muir, the

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>late great David Muir who used to be a newsman

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 1>at ABC before the ratings plummeted and he shot himself

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 1>in the foot. But I think with that disaster, there

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 1>has been a pendulum swing to better journalism. It'll be

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see.

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I think there's been a pendulum swing,

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 2>but I think.

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>That we'll see. We'll see. It's gonna be interesting.

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 2>I think if you just look at it isolated through

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:03.760
<v Speaker 2>the lenses of through the lens of debates. My hope

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 2>and guess is that CBS will register that when CNN

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.399
<v Speaker 2>had the Biden Trump debate earlier this year and they

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 2>did not fact check, that that was overall a better

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 2>brand call for CNN than ABC trying to fact check. Well,

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 2>ABC fact quote unquote fact checking live only for one candidate,

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Speaker 2>five times for Kamala Harris, zero times for Donald Trump.

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Just either do it for both or do it for none.

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 2>And I think I would recommend the safest way to

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 2>go is to do it for none, because it's very

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>hard live in the moment, and your fact checks are

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 2>going to get fact checked, lack.

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>The point of a debate. If you and I are debating,

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>my job is to fact check you like that's the

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>job of a debate, is that you and I go

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>back and forth.

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I was watching an interview with Dana

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Bash from CNN, and she was saying that that was

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:57.879
<v Speaker 2>kind of she brought up which I mean, I don't

0:37:57.880 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>remember this. I guess maybe it was before my time

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 2>of watching debates, but that the debates used to be

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 2>hosted by the Presidential Debate Commission.

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, there was a commission, and then the commission started

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>farming it out to the networks probably, And this is

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>the first one, I think since nineteen eighty eight, if

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 1>my memory is correct, that they're not using that commission

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.839
<v Speaker 1>anymore because they felt like the Republican felt like it

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 1>was too biased. And so this is an independent CBS

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 1>independently ran this to both campaigns, so this is kind

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 1>of the first independent debate in quite some time.

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh Okay, I didn't know that. Okay, well, I'm uninformed.

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 2>But she was just talking about how, you know, she

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 2>was sort of talking about like the way debates have

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.280
<v Speaker 2>been done over the years and how CNN like looked

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 2>historically looked at how they'd been done to do theirs,

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 2>and she said, you know, it's like, how do you

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 2>view what a debate should be. We felt that it

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 2>was on the candidates to fact check each other as

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 2>part of the debate, and I do think that's the

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 2>better way to go. Literally, from a brand perspective, you're

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 2>just risking your own brand if you're going to Like

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 2>I think it's safer for CBS, my former employer, I

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 2>would say, let Waltz and Dvance fact check each other

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 2>and just be the pure moderator of the conversation.

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Because look, I can assure you their lips will be moving.

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Therefore they will be telling tall tales, both of them.

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I can just tell you now, both Vance and Waltz

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 1>are going to say things that are not true. That's

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 1>what politicians do. Then later it is incumbent upon the

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>media and everybody else can break it down and talk

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>about it. But in the moment, it's Vance's job, in

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:38.839
<v Speaker 1>Waltz's job to stick up for each other's campaigns and

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.919
<v Speaker 1>for their running mates and to do their jobs. That's

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 1>on them. It's not for you know, David Muir, May

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.839
<v Speaker 1>he rest in peace and all these others. So that's

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 1>their job. And so I agree, That's what I was

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 1>taught when I learned debate in high school and then

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 1>and later that's how you do it. And so I agree,

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I think you just got to stay out of it

0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>because you only have ninety minutes. If you're going to

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 1>stop in fact check NonStop, you can't do a debate

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 1>in ninety minutes. It just it would be impossible. You'd

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:07.720
<v Speaker 1>be mired down in each and every subject.

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 2>What if you had done debates through the Bachelor?

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>We did one. We did one and did it. We

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 1>did one on the steps of Virginia, Virginia Commonwealth. We

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:21.279
<v Speaker 1>did it at the capitol, and I think the it

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 1>was kind of controversial because the governor who went and

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 1>joined us, I think he was impeached or something right after.

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>It was really bad. Yeah, he went down in a scandal.

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, yeah, that's so funny. Okay, well

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 2>you know what what didn't the Bachelor?

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, we've tried it all, but we'll be watching it.

0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be interesting because jad Vance, Uh, you know,

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I'd say he's probably a more polished politician. Then you

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>have Waltz, who's kind of the folksye Minnesota. You know,

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I go to home Depot and you know, as they

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of joked about on Saturday Night Live this weekend,

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.759
<v Speaker 1>I haven't been this excited since I saved, you know,

0:40:56.800 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>ten percent on a leaf blower at Maynard's he's I

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.319
<v Speaker 1>know he's been locked in with Pete Budagicic has been

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 1>playing uh jd vance uh in their debate prep. And

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 1>look if the if the Democrats, if they use the

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>same prep and kind of routine going in that Kamma

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 1>used to beat Trump in that first debate, then he

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 1>should be ready to go. I mean she was ready wired,

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 1>had all her talking points, she baited Trump perfectly. He

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 1>fell for it. I don't think Jade Vanma.

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 2>For it is a calmer person than a.

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>He's a better debater. You know, he's a better politician.

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen him not reserved, like he just keeps

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 2>an even tones. So we'll be watching. It's a different

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 2>version of theater.

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, look, do you think the Vice President's debate?

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 1>This is how I feel about it. I feel like

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>it's it's an unenviable position for both of them because

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 1>all you can do is screw it up for your

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 1>running mate. Like if you do an okay job or

0:41:55.800 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 1>a good job, great, you're advice this one.

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, I saw today someone said like,

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 2>if you think the VP debate doesn't matter, actually more

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 2>people watched the VP debate last round than the presidential debate.

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>That's because the vice the presidents were I just think

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 1>people were so tired.

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Of the he look like. I think that Kamala Harris

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 2>has very much made Tim Waltz like really an equal

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 2>with her in this From the start, her first interview

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>as a candidate she did with Tim Waltz. She didn't

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 2>do it solo. Her first one, it was with him,

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 2>and you know, she's just coming off of being the

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:42.839
<v Speaker 2>VP herself. So I think this one may matter more

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 2>than even some in recent history. And for me, when

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:49.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at who I'm going to vote for, I'm

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 2>looking at also what team they're putting into place. So

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at, you know, not just who they are,

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.800
<v Speaker 2>but who they're surrounding themselves with. So it matters to me,

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to be watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Look, seventy million, huge, huge ratings for the presidential debate,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy million plus, So it'll be interesting to see what

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<v Speaker 1>the ratings are on Tuesday night when the vps step

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<v Speaker 1>into the ring. We'll be watching because we love that stuff.

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