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Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Laurence Ema coming to you from the

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Speaker 1: home office in sunny Austin, Texas. It's got such a

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Speaker 1: good time to be here in Austin this fall. Football weather, Yes,

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Speaker 1: football weather. Oh, I was going to say, slash Harry

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Speaker 1: Potter weather, booky weather, booky weather.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're still waiting for it to come. We actually

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Speaker 2: admittedly had a little bit of better weather this past

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Speaker 2: weekend in Santa Barbara, California, one of our favorite cities,

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Speaker 2: where we went for a big bachelor surprise for one

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Speaker 2: of your favorite bachelors of all time, Andrew.

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Speaker 1: Fireson, one of my favorite human beings period dot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: period dot. He's just his beautiful wife, Evonna Firestone, six

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Speaker 1: months ago.

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Speaker 2: This secret in for so long. This woman, I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're laughing about it now, but she's was telling me

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Speaker 2: she's like Andrew was starting to think, you know, he's

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Speaker 2: like getting suspicious. I was seeming too secretive. But basically,

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Speaker 2: he'd been given an Honoree of the Year award by

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Speaker 2: this organization Storyteller for all the incredible work he does

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Speaker 2: in Santa Barbara to help them they help traumatize kids

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Speaker 2: get a better start in life. And Andrew is sort

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Speaker 2: of known as the MC of the Santa Barbara Areas.

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Speaker 2: Guys does every charity event.

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Speaker 1: Does more for more people and more organizations than anybody

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Speaker 1: I know. And I host a lot of these things,

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Speaker 1: but he is relentless, will do two three four events

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Speaker 1: a weekend, sometimes two in the same night, just to

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Speaker 1: give back to the community and to help as much

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Speaker 1: as he can. And se Yeah, about six months ago, Evanna,

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Speaker 1: his wife, reached out to us and said, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: Andrew's been given this amazing honor, the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: Storyteller Honoree of the Year, and I want to surprise

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Speaker 1: him with you guys as the people who come on

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Speaker 1: stage and announce.

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Speaker 2: Him and the award.

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Speaker 1: In the announcement anounce the award. Yeah, the award was

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Speaker 1: still surprise, so.

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Speaker 2: He didn't know he was getting the award.

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Speaker 1: Here's the bizarre thing is they asked him to host,

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Speaker 1: So he went under the guys that he was hosting

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Speaker 1: the event and him seeing the event and hosting the

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Speaker 1: the auction, all of it, which by the way, he did.

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Speaker 1: That's that's part of this story. But That's how they

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Speaker 1: got him there with a few of his friends and

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Speaker 1: a little bit of his family. What he didn't know

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Speaker 1: is that Lauren and I were there to go on

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Speaker 1: stage and actually give him this honor. And then his

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Speaker 1: whole family rolled out, his sister, his dad, friends from

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Speaker 1: out of Faria, friends came in from his old life

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco, and it was such a beautiful, emotional

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Speaker 1: He cried what he saw his dad and his sister

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Speaker 1: and his family walk out. It was it was awesome.

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Speaker 2: So I know that Evana was so nervous about it.

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Speaker 2: I was a little did you kind of like it?

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Speaker 2: I sort of like, here's when I was having fun.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at first, we were nervous because we're flying

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Speaker 2: in that day, and you know, you never want to

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Speaker 2: be the person to screw a surprise. What we had

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Speaker 2: told Andrew was Ivanna's birthday was the same weekend, and

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Speaker 2: we said we want to come in for Havana's birthday

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Speaker 2: and they're, you know, Evanna played it off, well, oh okay,

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Speaker 2: that'd be great, but we have this event Friday night.

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Speaker 2: And Andrew's like, you guys don't have to come to

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Speaker 2: this event, and we said, any you know, as a friend,

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Speaker 2: anytime with you is great. We don't care, we'll come

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Speaker 2: to the event. And so we're coming in and on

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Speaker 2: the one hand, I didn't want to be the one

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Speaker 2: to mess anything up. But on the other hand, when

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Speaker 2: we got there, I was kind of really digging into

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Speaker 2: like the acting part of it. Like I said, so,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Waite, are you hosting I'm pretending like I know nothing.

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Speaker 2: Are you hosting this event? Is this another one of

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Speaker 2: the things you're hosting? Oh? Great, we'll get to see

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Speaker 2: you in action. This is so exciting and you maybe

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Speaker 2: have the best move of the night. Because Andrew was

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Speaker 2: really annoyed, like he was. He was really worried about

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Speaker 2: he didn't want us. First of all, He's like, don't

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Speaker 2: And we're like, no, no, we love you guys. We're

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Speaker 2: And so he's like okay, okay. So we're sitting at

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Speaker 2: and obviously this whole thing had been set up with

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Speaker 2: the two co chairs we had FaceTime with them. We'd

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Speaker 2: gone overall what we were going to do, the videos.

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Speaker 2: Everything had been so choreographed, obviously behind Andrew's back, and

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Speaker 2: what the f Like, why are they doing this to you?

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Speaker 2: He was so mad, and so I leaned over. I said,

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Speaker 2: don't worry. They just asked me to do a quick favor.

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Speaker 2: I'm totally good with this, don't worry. And that was

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Speaker 2: because he was immediately so pissed off that the co

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Speaker 2: Chairs had asked you and I'd go out. You knew

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Speaker 2: how you would react. You knew that he would be

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Speaker 2: afraid that if people saw you there, they'd be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Chris Harrison's here, We'll just we'll ask him to participate

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Speaker 2: in some way. And so you played it off like

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Speaker 2: that had happened. So he was actually furious. So we

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Speaker 2: Chairs and Havana a shout out. They had the brilliant idea. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: take this idea, you guys, and use it as something

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Speaker 2: in your life if you need to. It was so smart.

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Speaker 2: They had a fake honor recreated using the letters of

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Speaker 2: Andrew's name. It was an anagram, so in the brochure

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Speaker 2: even it said that the honorey of the night was

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Speaker 2: doctor Stephanie Rowan. They had a fake bio made of her,

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Speaker 2: fake photos of this person, and then the co chairs

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Speaker 2: got up and they said, Okay, tonight we're going to

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Speaker 2: be honoring doctor Stephanie Rowan, and we'd like to welcome

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Speaker 2: when Andrew freaks out. We get up there and what

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Speaker 2: we had planned was they had made a graphic so

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Speaker 2: this fixed. The letters then rearranged to reveal the real

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Speaker 2: honery of the night is Andrew Firestone. At that moment,

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Speaker 2: his family and friends who were there in secret, they'd

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Speaker 2: seen my dad cry before.

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Speaker 1: Really, yes, I know. His kids were there, his beautiful

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Speaker 1: daughter Anya, the boys Brooks and Shane obviously Evanna, tons

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Speaker 1: It was really special. So we give him first of all,

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Speaker 1: I laid into the Stephanie row and I, you know,

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Speaker 1: I went up. I said, Stephanie Rowan is such a

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Speaker 1: Lauren cut me off and broke down the anagram. But

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Speaker 1: a picture of Steph a Stephanie Rowan, and it was

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Speaker 1: an amalgamation apparently of Andrew as a woman, and they

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Speaker 1: and so they had all these deep kind of Easter

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Speaker 2: They said that she was into birds, Andrew was a burger.

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Speaker 1: They added all these like funny little Easter eggs that

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Speaker 1: And so we presented the award. They there was this

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Speaker 1: beautiful video tribute that his family took part in. The

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Speaker 1: were about to bring Andrew up on stage. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you know Andrew Firestone, this guy gives it one hundred

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Speaker 2: And Andrew, like me, is a theater nerd.

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Speaker 1: He's a theater nerd. He loves musical theater.

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Speaker 2: He and I will. You know, I think that you

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Speaker 2: and Evanna connect a little more on which is interesting

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Speaker 2: because I know Andrew's a former football player, But actually

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Speaker 2: you and Evanna very much connect on like your sportiness

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Speaker 2: and your competitiveness and tequila. Yeah, well we're all in

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Speaker 2: a tequila. They don't take tequila for yourself. That's not

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Speaker 2: for you. Like if we all play pickleball, you and

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Speaker 2: Vonna actually are on a team, and you guys really

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Speaker 2: get Andrew and I to being cheerleaders.

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Speaker 1: We're very competitive.

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Speaker 2: But then if and if I start singing a song

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Speaker 2: from you know, White Christmas, Andrew jumps in. He knows

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Speaker 2: If he starts singing guys and dolls, I'm right there

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Speaker 2: with him. And so it's really lovely when you have

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Speaker 2: a good couple friend who loves each other, You love

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Speaker 2: each other, and then you all also love each other.

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Speaker 1: In a little backstory, so at Andrew and Evanna's wedding

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Speaker 1: that they just started out of nowhere, a cappella with

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Speaker 1: Living on a Prayer by bon Jovi, and it started

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Speaker 1: like really as part of the ceremony, You're like, what's happening?

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Speaker 2: You should post that video.

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Speaker 1: You need to post that. It was pretty tragic, pretty bad.

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Speaker 2: When I say he's a theater kid, I'm not like

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Speaker 2: You can be a theater kid who in musicals and

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Speaker 2: not actually be that great at singing because there's characters you.

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Speaker 2: Like and Annie, I was Miss Hannigan one year, and

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Speaker 2: singing licktull Girls, Lick the girls, So you just andreck

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Speaker 2: at Direct Relief and then at our wedding. We asked

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Speaker 2: really funny thing where my favorite song is I Want

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Speaker 2: to Dance with Somebody by Whitney Houston, and he at

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Speaker 2: do a reading from the poetry of w. Houston. And

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Speaker 2: it took everybody a minute. He's going the clock strikes

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Speaker 2: upon the hour and the sun begins to fade, and

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Speaker 2: you're thinking, wow, this is a beautiful love poem. Still

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Speaker 2: enough time to figure out how to chase my blues away,

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Speaker 2: and you're starting to get it, and then he gets

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Speaker 2: the entire rehearsal dinner to sing I Want to Dance

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Speaker 2: with Somebody, and it was wonderful. So we just thought

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Speaker 2: Andrew always brings a song, and my musical theater teacher

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Speaker 2: always told me and On a song, so we thought,

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Speaker 2: we've got to bring him up on stage to actually

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Speaker 2: get the award with a song. And you had the

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Speaker 2: great idea of Living on a Prayer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to call back to Live in on

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Speaker 1: a Prayer, which was their wedding song. And you you

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Speaker 1: woke up one morning and you just handed me some lyrics.

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Speaker 1: You said, I got it. I wrote the song. Lauren

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Speaker 1: Ziema created an original knockoff obviously set to Living on

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Speaker 1: a Prayer by bon Jovi, all about Andrew. And here's

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Speaker 1: Okay, you have a beautiful voice, a much better voice

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Speaker 2: But this bachelor was handsome, mankind, and we knew he'd

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Speaker 1: We jumped in together for our guy.

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Speaker 2: Then it was like an Oscars moment where it's like,

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Speaker 2: And then celebrated, celebrated our girl of Honna.

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Speaker 1: We packed a lot into it, and then before we

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Speaker 2: Listen. It makes me think, you know, just the importance

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Speaker 2: I think you were so good, and I tip my

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Speaker 2: hat to you on how you created the Bachelor community

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Speaker 2: because sometimes you'll say things to me, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we've been together six years, but obviously you haven't told

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Speaker 1: Let's slowly, yeah, yeah, we have time.

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Speaker 2: You know, we got time. We keep learning about each other.

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Speaker 2: how do you know Haley And you're like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: And it came you know that people always asked if so,

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Speaker 1: I'm just commending you, and people were I took that serious.

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Speaker 1: The international team lost, but they were outmatched. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Well see, And that's the thing you take the time

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Speaker 2: But that's doing the right thing, and I think we've

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Speaker 2: like the phrase it's business. It's not personal like on

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Speaker 2: the Guinness family redid this park. The Guinness family and

432
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Speaker 2: he was talking about how they invested so much back

433
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 2: into Ireland. And he's told us that when someone used

434
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Speaker 2: to work at the Guinness Company, right, one, that man's

435
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 2: son was guaranteed a job at the Guinness Company in

436
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 2: the future. And two if that man died while he

437
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,119
Speaker 2: was working at Guinness for whatever reason, yep, they paid

438
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 2: his salary to the family forever, like they just took

439
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 2: care of the family. And I thought, Wow, that's just

440
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 2: a company doing the right thing. And I think, like

441
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 2: the last few years, I don't know, there's been a

442
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 2: lot of performative companies doing the right thing, like on

443
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 2: social media, but I don't know that they're really doing

444
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 2: the right thing.

445
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Speaker 1: No, A lot of it's bullsh it. Brings me. Well,

446
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 1: let me bitch in one more Bachelor thing and then

447
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: I want to.

448
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 2: Ask I have even more Bachelor things to mention, So go.

449
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: Okay, because I want to get to it. It will

450
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 1: lead us into the political thing we're in talk.

451
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: I have got one more Andrew things, So can I

452
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 2: go get that?

453
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do that.

454
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 2: And then so one thing I wanted to ask you

455
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,400
Speaker 2: about was when we were writing the speech to give

456
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 2: Andrew the award, you kind of worked in some stuff

457
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 2: about Andrew season that I didn't know, because I haven't seen.

458
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 2: The first seasons of the show I watched were around

459
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 2: like the Ben Higgins, Chris Soul's, Caitlin Bristow years. So

460
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: I have never seen Andrew season.

461
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 1: Because he's two thousand and three, two thousand and four.

462
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like a sophomore in high school, I know,

463
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: and I could have watched it. I was in high

464
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 2: school at the time, but like, honestly, my mom was

465
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 2: a Housewives babe, so I watched house I was with

466
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 2: my mom some people their family or Bachelor people and

467
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 2: they watched Bachelor. So you had had us work in

468
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 2: some stuff about like what a disaster Andrew season was

469
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,719
Speaker 2: for him. I don't think it was ratings wise, and

470
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 2: it was a huge success. And I was like, babe,

471
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 2: are you sure, and you go no, no, no. The crowd's

472
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 2: going to get this, and they did. They laughed at

473
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: the jokes he wrote. He wrote a joke about the

474
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Speaker 2: girl who said that the Olive Garden was her favorite

475
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: Italian restaurant. I'm not getting these references, but I'm saying them,

476
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: and I'm trusting you because I know you're good at

477
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 2: what you do. But what was well and then I

478
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 2: was kind of talking to Andrew's friends later, and his

479
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: friend said something that was profound. He said, the Bachelor

480
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: actually really the experience really kind of like humbled Andrew

481
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 2: and made him a better person, Not that he was

482
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 2: a bad guy, but what was the like, what was

483
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: the horror that Andrew went through and how did it

484
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Speaker 2: make him a good person?

485
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Speaker 1: I think it was.

486
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Speaker 2: What do you think worked that season?

487
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: If I was going to therapize this, as I always do,

488
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: I think there were a lot of things at play.

489
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Speaker 1: First of all personal. You know, Andrew's very much the

490
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: youngest of his family, a very esteemed well.

491
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 2: Known, like he's the youngest sibling by like, his siblings

492
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 2: are ten years.

493
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: Ago by fall, and so I think it was kind

494
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: of the first time Andrew was wearing the Firestone name

495
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: on the back of his jersey, more so than anybody

496
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 1: else in his family. He was putting it on this

497
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: really grand scale. And I think for the first time

498
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: Andrew felt the responsibility of that weight, and it took

499
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 1: him a minute to realize that and to rationalize it

500
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Speaker 1: and deal with it in a profound way. I think

501
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: it I think it hit him harder. I think at

502
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: first he's like, oh, yea, I'm gonna do this show

503
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: and there's women fun. You know. He was kind of

504
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: footloose and fancy for he was young, and his family

505
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: was very established. His dad obviously the winery, was cooking,

506
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 1: his brother, I think had just started eight h five brewery,

507
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: and Adam was doing his thing, and his daughter, his daughter,

508
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: his older sister, Hayley, you know, was very involved in

509
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: the community. And so I think Andrew was just really

510
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: coming into his own as a firestone. And I think

511
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: when that name was put on the back of his

512
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: jersey and he really had to carry it for the

513
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: first time so publicly on network TV, he I think

514
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: I think he got it. He's like, oh, this is important.

515
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: I can't I can't ruin this or soil this. And

516
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: then on top of that, you have the other side

517
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: of the coin, which is I have to be the

518
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: Bachelor and this very new show that we were still

519
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 1: figuring out things. The show was not evolved completely. It

520
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: was I wouldn't say half baked, but at that point

521
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: he was still three quarters baked.

522
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Speaker 2: What was Andrew? Was he the second or third?

523
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: No, he was Gosh, it would have been Alex Michelle

524
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: and then Aaron Bergee, and then Trista, and then we

525
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 1: had Bob Guinney. I think he was five, he was

526
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: five incarnations.

527
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 2: In and he was still in that time when it

528
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: was truly this aspirational guy.

529
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Speaker 1: You right, diamond in the rough, you have a chance

530
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: to find love with a firestone.

531
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Speaker 2: I don't even know if i'd call Andrew diamond in

532
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 2: the rough. I think Diamond in the roff was later.

533
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: I mean, Andrew was a firestone, a firestone tires.

534
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: He was the like, right, But I guess the point

535
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 1: is it was this fairy tale. He was the fairy Yes, yes, yes.

536
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 2: So he you're you're kind of I still figuring the

537
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: show out. What do you remember most about that season?

538
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: The thing I remember most because back then I really

539
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: leaned into getting to know everybody before the show.

540
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 2: And you and Andrew are very close in age only

541
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: a few yes.

542
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. At the time, he was probably I don't know,

543
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine maybe, and I was

544
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: like thirty one thirty two, so we were only a

545
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: few years apart, still are. And then I remember we

546
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: went to lunch, just Andrew and I and Joshua was

547
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: just born, I mean two thousand and one. So Joshua

548
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: was only like three years old. So I remember taking

549
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: Joshua to this lunch. We were down in Santa Monica,

550
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: and I put Joshua in his high chair and we

551
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: ordered our food and we're sitting there eating, you know,

552
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: hamburgers and French fries whatever, and I just remember all

553
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm talking to Andrew and I see

554
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: this French fry just hit him in the face. And

555
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, Joshua had just picked up a handful of

556
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: French fries and threw it at Andrew. And Andrew as

557
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: we know him now, quickly picks up a handful of

558
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: French fries and throws him in Joshua's face, and a

559
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: food fight ensues at this table, and I'm like, what

560
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: the hell is that? But that just like sums up

561
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: Andrew of like, he didn't get mad, he didn't get

562
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: he just like, yeah, I'm in on this, and that's

563
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: how we kind of that's how our relationship started. We

564
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: became dear friends ever since. And I remember Andrew two

565
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: things about him. Number One, uh, the wine. Obviously, he

566
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: has a winery at his disposal. We were I think

567
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: serving the women Kendall Jackson, no offense, kJ, but it's

568
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: not the greatest stuff. And Andrew after night one, was like,

569
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: can I bring in my own wine and beer? And

570
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: that's when Andrew's like, I'm going to start serving firestone

571
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: in eight o five and this palette that took up

572
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: the entire doorway shows up. The next day of he

573
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: brought his own wine in and he was the first

574
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: one because he actually got engaged to this girl named

575
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: jen Chef. Jeff. Yeah, he bought his own. She became

576
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: the bacherette later after they broke up. He's the first

577
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: person who said, no, I'm buying my own ring. We

578
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: were using to Corey rings back there. This is before

579
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: what's his name, Neil Lane. We used Paul to Corey,

580
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: which honestly, you are nicer rings, but they changed over

581
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: to Neil Lane. But yeah, to Corey He's like, no, no,

582
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm buying this. If I'm getting engaged, this is incumbent

583
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: upon me to do this. So that's the kind of

584
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: guy Andrew was.

585
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: Andrew doing the right thing.

586
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they broke up and Jen Chef became

587
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: the bacheorette. And Andrew went on to find love with Evana.

588
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: Can we tell his sister's Oprah story.

589
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: Oh that's a great story.

590
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: Tell it.

591
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so his older sister Haley. So back in the day,

592
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 1: Oprah was a huge fan of the show, and all

593
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: the producers were and.

594
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: And you have to think about how big the Oprah

595
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: Show was at that time.

596
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Oprah Show is still massive. And Oprah and

597
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: Bob Guiney became really good friends for a while, and

598
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: he was on Oprah Show a while, I being really

599
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: unlikely unlikely bed partners. But they had The Firestones on

600
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: and this is after Jen Cheff and they're engaged. So

601
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: they all go out to dinner, the chefs, the Firestones,

602
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: and they have this big dinner, and Andrew pulls his

603
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: sister Haley aside and says, we have broken up. This

604
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: is a disaster, right dinner, he told he told her

605
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: the night before they started shooting, because Haley had to

606
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: fake it on Oprah.

607
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah that's what she told me. Was before. Sorry, sorry,

608
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: yeah I thought it was at the at the studio.

609
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, this is the day before. So he

610
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: tells the family like, this is a disaster. We are

611
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: completely broken up. I can't stand or she can't stand me.

612
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: This thing's off. The whole thing's off. Flash forward to

613
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, eight hours later, they're at the Oprah Show

614
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: and everybody has to plaster on this smiling face of

615
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: how great the show is, how in love everybody is.

616
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: Now these two families are coming together, and Hayley is like,

617
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, freaking out because she's on the Oprah Show.

618
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: Oprah is the biggest thing in the universe and the

619
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: show is the biggest thing in the world and she

620
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: has to go on in her jewel tone dress and go,

621
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: we love this show and the Bachelor it's so we're

622
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: so happy.

623
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: This is a question, why did he tell them?

624
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, let them get through Oprah? I know exactly.

625
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: This poor woman is on Oprah watching and she's having

626
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: to act and protect like Andrew, why did That's on him?

627
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: He shouldn't have told her. Just let her get through

628
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 2: and tell her after her.

629
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: It's hard to quantify how big the show was back then.

630
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: I mean the ratings were were the number one show

631
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: in the country at the time, because American Idol was

632
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: just about to start or had just started, so, you know,

633
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: Trista to the next couple of seasons and Bob Guiney

634
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: Andrew Firestone. Those were huge seasons for the franchise. So

635
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean Oprah Ellen, I mean every talk show in

636
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: the world, the late night shows. He was so big.

637
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: We were doing jay Leno, so that was on NBC,

638
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: and I remember Trista and a couple of them were

639
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: doing the you know Tonight Show with Jay Leno. Everybody

640
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: wanted a piece of this franchise because it was so massive,

641
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 1: and so yeah, Oprah was a big fan and loved

642
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: Bob Guiney and was doing stuff with him for a while.

643
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: But those were fun, crazy days wow, because it was

644
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: just it's hard to explain too, because there were just

645
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: no rules and regulations. It was just we're figuring it out.

646
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: So one thing I did love hearing was that the

647
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: batch or made him like a better person. I don't know,

648
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,239
Speaker 2: I have to admit it's not something you hear all

649
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: the time. But like usually people go on a reality

650
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: show and they kind of become worse because there you

651
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: have to have a certain look. It really depends on

652
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: the person. I think you get a mixed bag with

653
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: the Bachelor because there are the people who literally watch

654
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: the show and like had a crush on the person

655
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: who then went on to become the lead, like a

656
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 2: Catherine Judici and then she was like I literally crushed

657
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: on Sean and went on the show and married him.

658
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: But then there are the people, especially once the social

659
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: media years happened, who were going on the show to

660
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: try to make a career out of it. And so

661
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: if you have a person who's already sort of looking

662
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: to become famous, which requires a certain amount of ego,

663
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: I think there's a difference between I want to become successful, Like,

664
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: if you love acting, you become successful in fame's a

665
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: side effect. But if you're just trying to be famous,

666
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: that's a certain ego. So those people, you know, maybe

667
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: reality TV just digs in even worse to their kind

668
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: of worse qualities.

669
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think the show does one of two things.

670
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: It does what you're talking about, uh, or it humbles you.

671
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: And that's what I mean. I love that that happened

672
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: for Andrew. I think some people like like, I think

673
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: Ben Higgins was already a great guy, but I think

674
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: this show made him an even better Seann Lowe.

675
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, as another example, you see these people Jojo and Jordan,

676
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: you see some of the people that they respect what happened,

677
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: and they'll even take advantage of the show and the popularity.

678
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they just go away, but the show

679
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: humbles them to a degree that they do some self

680
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: reflection of who am I and what do I stand

681
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: for it, what do I want to do. It's like

682
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: for Andrew, I want to be a part of the community,

683
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: and Seawan Low, I want to be deeper a part

684
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: of the community in Dallas and the church and how

685
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: can I use this platform for good? And so it's

686
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: beautiful to see. It doesn't always affect people that that way, unfortunately,

687
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: but that's human nature.

688
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: Well, what were your other bachelor things? To say?

689
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: One other bachelor thing? And it's kind of to say

690
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: it now we've buried the lead. But congratulations to Colton

691
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: Underwood and Jordan Brown welcoming their baby boy into the family.

692
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: I had to write it down because there's a lot

693
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: of names. Bishop Colton Brown Underwood born September twenty sixth.

694
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: He's a keeper seven pounds twenty inches. All of our love,

695
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: all of our prayers, all of our blessings we were

696
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: at their wedding. I feel like we've kind of walked

697
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: through this process with them. I mean, not intensely with them,

698
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: but it's just we followed them just.

699
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: Posted, which just made me like they texted us over

700
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: the weekend before they posted about it.

701
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: And I get this is all public now, so we're

702
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: not spoiling the Yeah, but it.

703
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: Was cool to be at an event with It really

704
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: was a cool moment to be at an event with

705
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: like Andrew, you know, former bachelor, celebrating him, and then

706
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: get a text about good news with former bachelor Colton.

707
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: He sent us acute picture.

708
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: There was a lot of good bachelor joy.

709
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: By the way, great name, I know, Bishop Colton Brown Underwood.

710
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: He sounds like a successful law firm.

711
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: You already said he is his own law firm. But

712
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: he also just sounds like strong, solid, Yes, just politician.

713
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's a CEO the International spy because you

714
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: have so many names and so many aliases.

715
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm so happy for them. I know this is something

716
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: they really wanted and I'm just glad that it's happened

717
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: for them. And I know they're like so ready for it, so.

718
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: They will be beautiful parents.

719
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and congratulations, guys.

720
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: Look, I want to talk quickly one more thing before

721
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: we wrap this one up. And it kind of goes

722
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: with what you were saying earlier, And you said this

723
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: before about community. So we're kind of going full circle

724
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: here about what's going on politically in this world right

725
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: now and social media and all that. And it's like,

726
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if we were meant and you and

727
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: I talk about we're very tribal animals. Everybody is. We

728
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: settle in cities or town.

729
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: There's still small village creatures. Our brains have not advanced

730
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: to go with the technology that we've created.

731
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: And you said this before where people do very big

732
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: performative things on social media that mean nothing, and you

733
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: want to say, you know what, if you really want

734
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: to do something, dive into your community, host, donate, volunteer,

735
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: get involved in your community. That's if we learned anything

736
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: during COVID and being mandatorily shut down and prisoned in

737
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: our own homes and our communities are the most important

738
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: thing to us, and the people that run these communities

739
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: get involved and try to make your community, your neighborhood better.

740
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: And that, to me is what you were talking about

741
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: with The Bachelor and all that was like I just

742
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: wanted to make that community better. It's something I could

743
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: touch yeah.

744
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 2: I think when if you're wanting to do and you're

745
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: kind of talking about like everything Andrew does, and I

746
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: think that was just our reminder for the weekend. And

747
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you've really brought that into my life,

748
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: not just with The Bachelor, but with all the events

749
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 2: you host and now we're doing that here in Austin.

750
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: But I think we see there's all this pressure like

751
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: if there's a cause or something like post about it

752
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: on social media. But the truth is if you want

753
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: to effect change, and affecting change does make you feel good.

754
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: If you're doing good, you feel good. But I think

755
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: you get a lot more from that on a local

756
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: level where you can really see it. And like doing

757
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: experience camps has really helped me with that because it's

758
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: been such an action item, real tangible.

759
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: You're getting your hands to you.

760
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, was that just the point you want to Yeah.

761
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: Well, because we're leading into because we usually don't timestamp

762
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: these things, but it is Monday, the last day of

763
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: the month, last day of the quarter. Good luck everybody,

764
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: But the big vice presidential debate is tomorrow night, Tuesday,

765
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: the first between obviously jd Vance, Ohio senator running mate

766
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump, Tim Waltz, the governor of Minnesota, running

767
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: mate of Kamala Harris. It is nine o'clock Eastern time. Man,

768
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: I tell you what, East Coast, you just get hammered.

769
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Everything's sports Monday night football. Everything's so

770
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: late there. But it's kind of the same setup, even

771
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: though that they've kind of broken away from the face

772
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: on CBS is the moderator. It is Nora O'Donnell who

773
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: does their evening CBS evening news, and Margaret Brennan, who

774
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: is their kind of chief foreign affairs correspondent, does a

775
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: good job there. There are two, you know, down the middle,

776
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: good very good journalists should be good ninety minutes. They

777
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: are not saying definitively if they're going to cut the microphones,

778
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: they do reserve the right to mute them, is what

779
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: they're saying. The big question is will they fact check

780
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: anybody tonight? Obviously the ABC disaster with what's his face

781
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: already forgot his name? Who does a David Muir, the

782
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: late great David Muir who used to be a newsman

783
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: at ABC before the ratings plummeted and he shot himself

784
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: in the foot. But I think with that disaster, there

785
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: has been a pendulum swing to better journalism. It'll be

786
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: interesting to see.

787
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if I think there's been a pendulum swing,

788
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: but I think.

789
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: That we'll see. We'll see. It's gonna be interesting.

790
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: I think if you just look at it isolated through

791
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 2: the lenses of through the lens of debates. My hope

792
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: and guess is that CBS will register that when CNN

793
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 2: had the Biden Trump debate earlier this year and they

794
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: did not fact check, that that was overall a better

795
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: brand call for CNN than ABC trying to fact check. Well,

796
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: ABC fact quote unquote fact checking live only for one candidate,

797
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: five times for Kamala Harris, zero times for Donald Trump.

798
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: Just either do it for both or do it for none.

799
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: And I think I would recommend the safest way to

800
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: go is to do it for none, because it's very

801
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: hard live in the moment, and your fact checks are

802
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: going to get fact checked, lack.

803
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: The point of a debate. If you and I are debating,

804
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: my job is to fact check you like that's the

805
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: job of a debate, is that you and I go

806
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: back and forth.

807
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I was watching an interview with Dana

808
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: Bash from CNN, and she was saying that that was

809
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 2: kind of she brought up which I mean, I don't

810
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: remember this. I guess maybe it was before my time

811
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: of watching debates, but that the debates used to be

812
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: hosted by the Presidential Debate Commission.

813
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: Yes, there was a commission, and then the commission started

814
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: farming it out to the networks probably, And this is

815
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: the first one, I think since nineteen eighty eight, if

816
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: my memory is correct, that they're not using that commission

817
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: anymore because they felt like the Republican felt like it

818
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: was too biased. And so this is an independent CBS

819
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: independently ran this to both campaigns, so this is kind

820
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: of the first independent debate in quite some time.

821
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 2: Oh Okay, I didn't know that. Okay, well, I'm uninformed.

822
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: But she was just talking about how, you know, she

823
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: was sort of talking about like the way debates have

824
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 2: been done over the years and how CNN like looked

825
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: historically looked at how they'd been done to do theirs,

826
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: and she said, you know, it's like, how do you

827
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: view what a debate should be. We felt that it

828
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: was on the candidates to fact check each other as

829
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: part of the debate, and I do think that's the

830
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: better way to go. Literally, from a brand perspective, you're

831
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: just risking your own brand if you're going to Like

832
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: I think it's safer for CBS, my former employer, I

833
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: would say, let Waltz and Dvance fact check each other

834
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: and just be the pure moderator of the conversation.

835
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: Because look, I can assure you their lips will be moving.

836
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: Therefore they will be telling tall tales, both of them.

837
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: I can just tell you now, both Vance and Waltz

838
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: are going to say things that are not true. That's

839
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: what politicians do. Then later it is incumbent upon the

840
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: media and everybody else can break it down and talk

841
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: about it. But in the moment, it's Vance's job, in

842
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: Waltz's job to stick up for each other's campaigns and

843
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: for their running mates and to do their jobs. That's

844
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: on them. It's not for you know, David Muir, May

845
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: he rest in peace and all these others. So that's

846
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: their job. And so I agree, That's what I was

847
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: taught when I learned debate in high school and then

848
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: and later that's how you do it. And so I agree,

849
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: I think you just got to stay out of it

850
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: because you only have ninety minutes. If you're going to

851
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: stop in fact check NonStop, you can't do a debate

852
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: in ninety minutes. It just it would be impossible. You'd

853
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 1: be mired down in each and every subject.

854
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: What if you had done debates through the Bachelor?

855
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: We did one. We did one and did it. We

856
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: did one on the steps of Virginia, Virginia Commonwealth. We

857
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: did it at the capitol, and I think the it

858
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: was kind of controversial because the governor who went and

859
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: joined us, I think he was impeached or something right after.

860
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: It was really bad. Yeah, he went down in a scandal.

861
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, that's so funny. Okay, well

862
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Speaker 2: you know what what didn't the Bachelor?

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Speaker 1: Well, we've tried it all, but we'll be watching it.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting because jad Vance, Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd say he's probably a more polished politician. Then you

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Speaker 1: have Waltz, who's kind of the folksye Minnesota. You know,

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Speaker 1: I go to home Depot and you know, as they

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Speaker 1: kind of joked about on Saturday Night Live this weekend,

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Speaker 1: I haven't been this excited since I saved, you know,

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Speaker 1: ten percent on a leaf blower at Maynard's he's I

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Speaker 1: know he's been locked in with Pete Budagicic has been

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Speaker 1: playing uh jd vance uh in their debate prep. And

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Speaker 1: look if the if the Democrats, if they use the

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Speaker 1: same prep and kind of routine going in that Kamma

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Speaker 1: used to beat Trump in that first debate, then he

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Speaker 1: should be ready to go. I mean she was ready wired,

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Speaker 1: had all her talking points, she baited Trump perfectly. He

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Speaker 1: fell for it. I don't think Jade Vanma.

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Speaker 2: For it is a calmer person than a.

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Speaker 1: He's a better debater. You know, he's a better politician.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen him not reserved, like he just keeps

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Speaker 2: an even tones. So we'll be watching. It's a different

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Speaker 2: version of theater.

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Speaker 1: And you know, look, do you think the Vice President's debate?

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Speaker 1: This is how I feel about it. I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's it's an unenviable position for both of them because

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Speaker 1: all you can do is screw it up for your

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Speaker 1: running mate. Like if you do an okay job or

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Speaker 1: a good job, great, you're advice this one.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I saw today someone said like,

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Speaker 2: if you think the VP debate doesn't matter, actually more

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Speaker 2: people watched the VP debate last round than the presidential debate.

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Speaker 1: That's because the vice the presidents were I just think

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Speaker 1: people were so tired.

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Speaker 2: Of the he look like. I think that Kamala Harris

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Speaker 2: has very much made Tim Waltz like really an equal

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Speaker 2: with her in this From the start, her first interview

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Speaker 2: as a candidate she did with Tim Waltz. She didn't

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Speaker 2: do it solo. Her first one, it was with him,

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Speaker 2: and you know, she's just coming off of being the

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Speaker 2: VP herself. So I think this one may matter more

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Speaker 2: than even some in recent history. And for me, when

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at who I'm going to vote for, I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at also what team they're putting into place. So

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at, you know, not just who they are,

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Speaker 2: but who they're surrounding themselves with. So it matters to me,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to be watching it.

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Speaker 1: Well. Look, seventy million, huge, huge ratings for the presidential debate,

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Speaker 1: seventy million plus, So it'll be interesting to see what

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Speaker 1: the ratings are on Tuesday night when the vps step

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Speaker 1: into the ring. We'll be watching because we love that stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's great theater. Thank you guys so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: It was a great weekend. We have another big one

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Speaker 1: coming up. We'll talk about so much more this week,

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Speaker 1: but until then, we'll do it in next time because

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Speaker 1: we have a lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening.

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