WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Bullying Geno, Latest on Leonard 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:04.880 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:06.480 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:16.160 Cowboys, Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:16.720 Yes? 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:18.640 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:19.440 Absolutely? 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.480 Ready for a break? 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:23.799 Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:28.160 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:31.400 We were with m bar Garcia. 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:36.160 Brian brought us, Patrick Walker and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:41.599 Hey, guys, what's up. Welcome back to another episode of 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.360 the Break. Derek will be joining us here in a 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.360 little bit. He's running behind, but we have Patrick and 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.239 Brian here in the studio with us, and I'll just 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:51.120 follow along. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:57.680 Dere Derek's Derek recruiting Shack. What we got going on here? 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:57.840 Man? 0:00:57.880 --> 0:00:58.960 You got him part of the mix. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.320 Apparently we're in meeting and I don't know if he 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:07.279 takes firing those decisions, uh, but I hope that news is. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.880 Maybe helping them choose the lunch me and you, yeah 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:13.280 for his lunch for Shack's lunch with Jerry'd. 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.319 At the club club. Food's good as test. 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.240 Since we're talking about Shack, let's go ahead and give 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.360 an update on what's. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.880 Currently you guys got to recruit him now, everybody everybody 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:23.840 doing what they're supposed to do. 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.120 The last thing Jerry mentioned on the fan that he 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.480 was gonna go have lunch with him and meet up 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.880 with him and then one time it's lunchtime. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.160 I guess not yet, it's in the next five minutes. 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:35.800 Maybe maybe that's what Maybe that maybe that's the real 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:36.840 reason they're closing the. 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:39.679 Lunch up earlier today. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.160 But yeah, Shaqlonard, he's in the building and like like 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.080 you said, Jerry said on one O five to three 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.839 the fan this morning, at that point, which was around 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.800 eight thirty, Shack was getting a one over once overdone 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:50.800 by the medical staff. 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:53.040 Obviously, like we talked about yesterday, the. 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.560 Cowboys are satisfied with what they've seen up to this 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.720 point as far as the medical homework on him. That's 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:00.480 why they brought him in for a meeting. But now 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.600 that he's in the building, you got to let Britt 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.360 Brown and this medical staff do their work and their 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.360 due diligence, and then after that everything checks out. Then 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.799 he Shaq Clenard, will have lunch with Jerry Jones himself, 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.960 which is another positive sign. Shows you just how in 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.040 the Cowboys are on trying to get him on the roster. 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:22.160 So have y'all heard anything yet all the physicals when 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.640 and the medical part that? 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.080 Yeah, yeah, because for all we know, they could still 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.120 be wrapping up the back end of that. So, I mean, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.560 that's not exactly a five minute situation. So we should 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:33.880 know something in the next. 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:34.360 Couple of hours. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.800 Unfortunately it'll be after we're already off of the air, 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.600 but hopefully we'll have some good news for Cowboys fans 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.959 at some point later today. And like we talked about yesterday, 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.680 it's a situation where, on top of all the reasons 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.920 the Cowboys should should sign him, there's the added reason 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.359 of if he leaves this building without the deal, Philadelphia 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.600 is on the other line. So if you needed any 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.120 more motivation, you got it. 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.480 I got my graphic ready. Yeah, waiting, there you go. 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.400 The uh, it's it's it's going to come down to 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.160 the recruiting part of it. You'll you'll win that battle 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.520 right there that you guys do a great job with 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:10.079 the recruiting aspect, the things, the building, the personnel, everybody, 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.160 the coach is involved. This could come down to how 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:17.200 well at in PACIFICA can negotiate and a deal and 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.360 you know you have more money here in Dallas than 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:23.080 Philadelphia has right now, Philadelphia can't get creative. They're not 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.920 afraid to go over the budget, you know, to go 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.800 get players or to move money around, and you know, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.040 so that's something you have to worry about. So there's 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.720 a lot of positives about him being here in Dallas. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.840 But like Patrick says, you do not want him to 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:39.480 walk out of this building and then all of a 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.720 sudden show up at the Novacare Center in Philadelphia and 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.240 then all of a sudden they're talking about, Oh, well, 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.600 they've got this thing done because they move some money 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.840 around and they were able to recruit. I really do 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:51.960 trust the guys and gals that recruit here. 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.240 Do you know what the money I. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.200 Have no idea, but it's going to be something you know, 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.360 I would be surprised. It's you know, Indianapolis is paying 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:04.280 the line share of what exactly the contract is Dallas. 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.800 I believe it's like six million dollars cap space. I 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.680 think Philadelphia's at two. So you're going to have to 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.280 get somewhat creative with the way you do it. But 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.360 you know that's so You've got some very talented guys 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.440 here that handle that. And so if they you know, 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.760 if the agent and Adam can agree on a price, 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:23.960 I think you'll have a good chance of getting this player. 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:25.880 And to that point, I love what Jerry told the 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.400 fan this morning as far as saying the financial component 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.080 isn't necessarily a big factor in this particular negotiation, and 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:33.680 it kind of goes to the fact that the Coats 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.960 are on the hook for several million dollars. Yeah, when 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.640 it comes to Shack, So it's not a situation where 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.080 the Cowboys have to you know, blow them out of 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.200 the water. As far as the money is concerned, the 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.240 money just needs to be respectable. It needs to be 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.599 at a point where he and his agent are like, okay, okay, 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.359 we can do that, especially when you package it with 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.159 the culture Dan Quinn former teammates like Brandon Cooks, Stefan Gilmore. 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.279 You get to play on the same defense as Michael Parsons, 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.200 guys like Osa Doron bland Is playing behind you. And 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.360 then of course you look at the offense and how 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.320 explosive they've become with Dak Prescott, City Lamb, Brandon Cooks, 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.400 that who I just mentioned. So yeah, I think that 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:14.320 the package when you then toss in DFW as far 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:18.280 as the metroplex, very attractive area to live, no state 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.880 tax in Texas. The package itself is a fairly easy sale. 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.839 Money is not necessarily going to be a big talking point. 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.520 It just goes to, like you said, how the contract 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.520 is structured, how the negotiation goes in that as. 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:31.760 I think the thing too you also have to worry 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.920 is therek The things you have to worry about is 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.560 expectations though for the rest of the season. You know, 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:41.880 both teams are have aspirations for being in that final game, 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.520 and that's where you're at right now. Philly is ahead 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.040 of you in that regard, so you know, those are 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.640 the things they're selling. They're selling, Hey, you want to 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.440 come here, here's the money you want to win. You know, 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.880 Dallas can sell the same things. I mean, Dallas takes 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.440 no back seat to Philadelphia. But he's to have to 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:05.279 make a decision on which situation is the absolute best 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.479 for him because both teams are struggling with their linebackers 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.760 right now. That is a problem for both teams. 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:14.280 You know, I'll also throw this out there. We're talking 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:14.840 about a. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.960 Guy who's coming off of back issues and hopefully all 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.040 chucks out well with that. But if I'm Shacklanard, I'm 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:22.719 going to step into his shoes for a second. So 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.560 everything else that I said is attractive to the Shacklandard. 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.880 If I'm Shackland and I'm also looking at the weather component, 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.039 because we're going into the back end of the season 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.440 now we're talking December January. Would it be more favorable 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.080 for you coming off of a back issue to play 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:42.640 indoors in North Texas versus outdoors Philadelphia, because presumably, let's 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.560 say Philadelphia gets home field advantage as well. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.080 It's something to consider, is what I mean. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:51.000 Because the code and at the link ah, that's rough 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.760 in December and January. It's a little more favorable when 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.520 the dome is when the roof is closed at AT 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.479 and T Stadium, man, and you get to play in 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.359 seventy degree controlled temperature. When you start thinking about like 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:05.600 the accessory accessorial items around the easy packets. 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.200 That's already to say. I just wonder if he thinks 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:07.840 about things like. 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.040 Well, you better win the division then because all your 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.320 games are likely gonna be yes, we need to do 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.040 in the playoffs unless unless you go to Atlanta or 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.960 too as the fifth seed. And my my point all 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.520 along is if you can't win, if you can't win 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:24.200 the division, by all means, hang on to the fifth seed. Yeah, 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.920 don't fall to six or seven, because you'll be playing 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.800 outdoors in San Francisco. You might be playing indoors at Detroit. 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.080 You know, if that's the case, if you fall out 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:33.720 of that makes. 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.720 It that much more important to defeat the Seahawks. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.640 On he's missing the most important thing that maybe he's considering, 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.040 which would be how much how much playing time he's 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.800 gonna get at each one because Kobe Dean right now 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.480 is on IR but he would be coming back presumably, 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.400 So is he a short term rental in Philly where 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:51.880 you know, get to the playoffs? And maybe now he's 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.600 not even active. Now he's not playing because Nikobe Deane's 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:58.280 back in Dallas. There, guy's gone for the season, and 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.760 so you're stepping into a situation and for him, what 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.920 maybe the selling point is, Hey, you're gonna get a 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.160 lot more playing time with us, a contending team, just 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.760 like Philadelphia is a contending team, but their linebackers coming 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.200 back ours isn't. And I think that that maybe your 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:11.680 selling point. 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.720 Yeah, that's if Dan doesn't take him off the field. 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.160 In the nickel or the dime that they play and 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:19.200 put on Bell and guys like that. That's the thing 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.480 that we all don't know right now. That was one 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:23.640 of the problems he had with the Colts is they 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.800 were taking him off the field in certain passing situations, 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:28.520 and he didn't want to come off the field. But 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.840 maybe he plays well enough to where you're like, well, 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:35.040 we'll do something else with Bell and and and Thomas 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.200 and other guys that play that linebacker position. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.559 Well, we know they played three safeties quite a bit, 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:41.680 so maybe he just worked that rotation. 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:46.640 Rights we've seen get creative flick. So, yeah, it's a 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.480 good problem to have. Just make sure it's it's a 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.480 problem that you have because you want to have this problem. 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.800 Yeah, But that certainly would be my pitch to him, 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.439 is we got more playing time for you than Philadelphia does, 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.360 at least in the long term, certainly by the time 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.440 we get to the playoffs. And so that may be 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.360 of interest to him. That may be something he's very 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.320 interested in. That may be a part of his his 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.160 factory of where he wants to go. 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.680 Well, one thing we do know is what a great 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:13.959 salesman Jerry Jones here is one of the best business men. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.080 They can show a drowning man a glass of water. 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.360 I have I've seen I've seen him do stuff that like, 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.520 you know, like I didn't think it. We were going 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:26.560 to get this done and and next thing you know, 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.360 Jerry's like, hand me the phone and then I mean 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.880 I watched him one time have two general managers on 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.800 the phone. And usually in a draft, they will not 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.120 tell you who they're going to take. He had two. 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.760 He had two different general managers on the phone Minnesota, 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.480 Kansas City, and both general managers told him who he 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.400 was going to pick, and he hung up the phone. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.520 He said, they're not taking our guy. Let's we can 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.960 trade with this team. He got guys to admit who 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.480 they were going to take. It's amazing the ability he 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:57.959 has to draw information and then to convince you that 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.440 this is the right way to do it. It is 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:04.080 I've never seen anybody work like he does. It's amazing, 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:04.800 it really is. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.599 This might sound crazy, but I think he needs to 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.440 get the brus on the squad to go and have 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.200 some conversations with him, Like Harold Nash Raymond. 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.160 We thought you were just in the meeting with them. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:20.240 Yeah, Well, I'm just saying that's where, that's where it's 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.400 this can can hinge like, make sure spending some time 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.120 with him. Man, you know, come on over here. We 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.280 got some good stuff going on in this city. You know, 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:32.160 everything that helps, every little bit, right, I think every 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.360 little Now that the rough part is the Kobe. Deane's 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.360 also bruh, so you know it kind of can go 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.440 either way. So it's Jalen hurts. So they got some 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:43.079 of that up there too. But yeah, we. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.360 Still have time. So let's go ahead and do the 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.839 injury report. We haven't gone through that just yet. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.360 She started, she rebuilded against what are you doing? 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:56.559 I say, you come in here late? You do not. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.160 I did not want to. I really didn't want this. 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:05.280 I yes, no better than yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.560 I'm with you whatever you want to do, so I 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:08.079 really do. 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.400 Maybe nine ten years ago you got away with that. 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:11.480 Now today, all. 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:15.160 Right, so injury news, injury news, sign check sign, we've 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.200 got uh, We're going to run down the report. Rico 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.600 Daldo he's still dealing with the ankle injury. He was 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:24.080 limited on yesterday, but he's it's not sidelined him yet, thankfully. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.079 He continues to work through his availability should be green 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.080 a green light for tomorrow Thursday against the Seahawks. Dante 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.600 Fowler he was absent with an illness. We'll see if 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.880 he returns today. If not, and if that cost him 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.280 availability on Thursday, obviously look at a guy like Sam 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.480 Williams taking the lead there. But you'll get an update 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.559 when the injury report comes out later. Peyton Hendershot and 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.199 he continues to be full. I mentioned it yesterday. I 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.320 don't I think people are kind of forgetting that. There's 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.240 a twenty one day window for Peyton Hendershot and the 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.199 Cowboys are coming up against that, So they're going to 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.840 have to make a decision on him if if they 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:00.160 don't activate him, he reverts to season ending injuries, or 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.839 the alternative is to put him on the active roster 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.960 and make a corresponding move. Jay Ron Curse with the 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.680 back tightness. He was limited yesterday. But I spoke with 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.760 Curse in the locker room asked him straight out, what 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.600 are the odds you play against the Seahawks? He said, 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:17.120 quote unquote two hundred percent, So there you go. Zach 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.440 Martin should be back today from a rest day, So shit, 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:24.640 Tyron Smith, but he's nice not going to practice. Mozzie 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.720 Smith popped up with a shoulder injury. He was a 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:30.920 full participant on Monday. That's good news. And Tyris Wheat, Uh, 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.959 he is in concussion protocol. He did not practice yesterday, 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:37.040 and I think that's something to watch absolutely, especially if 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.360 it's time to flip a spot to bring hinder Shot in. 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.760 You might be moving Wheat to Iry. 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:44.199 How about a linebacker? 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:49.560 M maybe maybe maybe, unless you know practice, that may 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.160 be your spot. But then then the question to ask 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.000 is do you guys see the scenario, a scenario where 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:59.000 maybe pender Shot doesn't come back to the active roster. Yeah, 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:00.760 you see that as a possibility. 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:04.439 It's hard to see him with Oh, it's hard to 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.360 see him with a roll. Like I hate saying that, 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.600 but right now how things have been playing out with 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.040 the tight end position, it's hard for me to find 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.400 a spot like when would I have him on the field? 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.000 When would I take someone else out and put him in? 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:23.520 Yeah, that's mean drives me crazy to uh, to quote 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.920 a fine young Cannibal song, she drives me crazy. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.200 Uh, young people don't know what that is. 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.400 Yeah, they were good back in the day, I'm with you, 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:36.320 but you know, and I'm wrong about these guys a lot, 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.520 but I kind of felt like it. I was hopeful 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.760 that Hindershot would come back and they would kind of 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.360 switch those two out. That's why I was hopeful. 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.360 I still haven't given up mckune. No, it's kind of 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.040 like an up and down type of player. 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:52.720 Gum on your shoe you can't get you know, You're like, 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.360 you're mad the gum is on your shoe, and then 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.720 you finally like, I can't get the gum off my shoes. 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.160 Anything good about gum being on your shoe though, Like 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.160 there's some good to him, right, I think? 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.719 Right? No, No, he plays special teams and all that. 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:09.040 I like the fact that they're using they're using a 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.720 hundred lipkey more. You like those full back rolls. Hunter 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:14.880 Lipkey is learning. They're like, listen, you go in there 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.280 sideways and try and block somebody, you are going to 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.080 get rejected out of there. You're going to get knocked 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.200 out of there. So he's kind of figured out like, Okay, 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.160 if I go in there and hit square, you know, 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:25.920 I might get knocked out, but I'm not going to 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.960 get knocked out as fast. So he's learning. He does 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:33.720 it better than what I see from McEwen. You know, 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.720 but McEwen plays special teams and all that, and you 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.520 know when you fight special teams coaches on players, it's 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:42.240 it doesn't work. They just they look at you and 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:45.080 they're like, okay, whatever, I'm still playing the guys. I 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:46.600 don't care what you say for me. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:52.400 It's difficult to justify not reactivating him, if only for 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:54.800 two reasons. One, you still want to see if you 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.479 can if he can step in and be another playmaker 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:01.000 for you and Dak Prescott. But to that same point, 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.240 you need to see what he looks like over the 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.520 remainder of this year because in the off season, guess 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.120 who's coming back John Stevens Junior. And John Stevens was 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.240 a highlight guy in training cap in preseason before he 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.640 suffered his torn a cl So you really need to 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.120 see before that decision has to be made, what can 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.320 him a shot do for you in year two. And 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:20.720 you're not going to find that out if you keep 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.920 him on seasoning, if you put him on season ending 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.520 ir so you know, put him on the field and 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.160 flip Tyrus weed if that concussion is you know, gonna 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.040 hold him out, put him on four game I r 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:31.760 feel it out. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.680 From there, and you do it that linebacker. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.520 And I was gonna say, but keep in mind, I mean, 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.680 you could sign Shack to the practice squad and you 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.800 have him there, and then that at least gives you 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:42.680 a week or so to try to figure out whatever 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:44.120 else you need to figure out, because it's all just 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:44.720 roster chess. 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:46.520 Yeah he's not He's not gonna play this week. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.320 Right exactly, And it's all just roster chess at this point. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.800 So so yeah, I think you bring up. 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:55.000 My problem is and I absolutely agree, like I think 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.880 you should. We should get another look before the season ends, exactly. 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:03.239 But excuse me, it's very rare. 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.440 Uh, that a guy comes back from injury and is 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:11.360 effective on the field immediately. We're heading into the start 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:15.080 of December and that's a tough month. We ain't got 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:19.000 time to be trying out. Let's trial and error going there. 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.520 Check it out. How you feeling we don't have time 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:22.240 for any of that. 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:23.680 You're not wrong. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.720 I mean, it's not fair to the player sometimes, but 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:29.880 it is what it is. That's how it is. So 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:34.560 if we were if it was like late October I 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.880 would be fine, but looking where we're at currently right now, 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:39.320 it's just it's McCarthy. 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.040 It sound just like I love my players. I don't 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.600 want to move. I don't want to I mean, it's 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.200 just like, you know, but you're not wrong, right, Yeah, 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.040 you don't want to put somebody out there that in 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.840 in Buffalo all of a sudden like falls apart in 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.400 the game, you know, and it cost you an opportunity 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.880 to win because you're trying, Yeah, because you're trying to 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:01.400 you know, you're trying to like, oh, we need to 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.800 get this guy back in the mix. Whereas if you've 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.480 had all these other guys who've been playing with you, 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.960 you know, the majority of the season. It's a good point. 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.399 The gum drives up at some point and he doesn't 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:12.760 stake on the floor anymore. 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.240 I still don't know how to get gum off the. 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.920 Shit it's just gone stays there, but it doesn't stake 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:18.760 on the ground anymore. 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:20.639 You've ever gone to sleep and like gum got in 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.520 your hair, it comes out of your mouth. 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.960 No, I don't fall asleep with gumb in my mouth. 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:26.320 Yeah, it hasn't happened to me. 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:27.800 That happened to you. 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.920 Clearly experienced drink enough. 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I've resumed hosting 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.879 responsibilities and this segment is brought to you by blockchain 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:17.119 dot Com. 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:21.840 You know what, you know what next time? 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:23.840 Well for that next time, he. 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.919 Says, you've you've created this show and you've held it 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.199 out for like fifty years. 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.439 Fifty season nineteen. I guess you didn't lead with the 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:33.240 season nineteen. 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:35.160 You know, I can't. 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.000 It's been a long time and you kept you kept 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:40.640 them and you. 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.480 I'm the last surviving member of the Bridge, so that 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:46.119 counts for something, all right. 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.240 By the way, I think Nick is really enjoying this 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:52.240 storyline and he's like really getting into it, like he's 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:54.600 I was talking about Paul finebaumb and these guys that 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:59.040 take calls and stuff. Nick's building quite an audience with 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:02.919 his show, getting some familiar callers and stuff like that. 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:06.560 So yeah, he's he's really enjoying that. It's a good show. Yeah. 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.000 My mom told me when she was here for Thanksgiving, 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:10.360 She's like, I listened to Nick's show. 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:10.960 I like it. 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:12.640 And I said, you know, to be honest with you, 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.080 I've not seen nicky. And you know this because you've 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:16.920 been around Nick for a long time. Nick can be 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.080 a little moody at times. I said, I have not 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.879 seen Nick as happy. You have not seen Nick as 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:25.160 happy on a show ever as he is this year, 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:26.919 And I think that show has a lot to do 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:27.119 with it. 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:31.919 He hasn't gone off on a caller. I know because 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:32.320 he was. 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.760 He has that he can get those moments when he's like, 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.240 I've had enough. Whoever calls in is gonna get it. 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:41.320 Whatever they say, they're going to get it. But no, 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.639 he has You're right, he's very It was. 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:46.080 A Heisman Trophy question today and he asked the guy 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.200 if he listens, if he follows college fall, and yeah, 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:49.440 I do a little bit. And he said, who is 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.080 candidate for us for the trophy? And you could tell 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.639 Nick was about ready to explode, and it was just 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:56.680 very calm about it. He goes, Okay, well, hey, thanks 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.399 for the call. I don't watch much college football. I 0:21:59.400 --> 0:21:59.800 could tell. 0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:04.120 And it's made him way more quati. But I think 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.760 that show is really good. I listen sometimes. 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:08.080 Storyline is a good show. 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:10.520 All right, Let's talk about the Seattle Seahawks, Brian. Let's 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:14.080 talk about their offense. They were held under three hundred 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:17.720 yards passing three of the last four games. Against Baltimore 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.080 only one hundred and twenty three yards. Washington was the 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:22.280 outline with three hundred and sixty nine, but at the 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:26.199 Rams two twenty three, San Francisco won thirty two. What 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.280 was the difference between watching and all these other games. 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:31.879 Yeah, San Francisco smothered them. We've seen how San Francisco 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.399 could smother you in a game, and there they made. 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:36.640 It really they made it difficult for Was it about 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:38.320 the pass rush or was it about. 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:40.280 It was about the coverage? It was about the coverage 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.800 because then what happens is coverage turned into guys getting home. 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:46.479 They've got some issues on their offensive line, especially at 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.320 right tackle, or the problems that they're deal with. I 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:53.640 will say this to me, their offense is really predicated 0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:55.080 on their wide receivers. 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:55.520 Uh. 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:57.800 You know, they're struggling right now with the health of 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:00.000 a running back, which I think can make a different 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:04.439 Friends Kenneth Walker, I feel like watching him on tape 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:06.760 when you start to talk about hand the ball to 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.760 a guy downhill runner, be physical. I call him a 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.359 no nonsense kind of a runner. I mean he's he 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:15.399 excels between the tackles. That's kind of his game. But 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:19.560 this this team is really built because of their wide receivers. 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:22.240 Their offense is built because of their wide receivers. So 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:26.120 it's going to be important that if you somehow come 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:29.240 up with a plan, much like what Baltimore did. Much 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:33.360 like San Francisco. They challenged DK Metcalf. You know, they 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:39.760 challenged these Smith and Jigbo. They challenged these guys to 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:42.800 have to make plays. And you know, that's the thing 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:46.040 I've always when you watch these teams, I think it's 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.960 one of the most talented group of receivers though that 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:52.359 that they've they've faced this year. Philadelphia's got super talent. 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:55.280 San Francisco's got super talent. But when you look at 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.440 these guys and what they it's really it's a mix 0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:00.920 of extreme size and quickness, and I mean extreme when 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:04.080 it's really one big guy and a couple other little guys, 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:08.119 and they they will they will hurt you if you 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:11.080 don't cover them up. They're not as consistent. I will 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:15.240 say this. Medcalf is not as consistent. There's times when 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:17.840 you see the deep shot and if you look at 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.440 the metrics and all that deep balls, he's not The 0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:23.840 number of targets to receptions is not great, but there's 0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:25.760 a lot of deep shot balls and they miss on 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.360 those the ones that I saw. That's something you're absolutely 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.080 going to have to be ready for in this game. 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:33.480 But I tell you what they're They're the two smaller 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:37.240 receivers are you know, it's when you talk about Tyler 0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:40.120 Lockett and Smith and Jig But these are tough cover 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.879 guys because of the quickness that they play with and 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:46.080 their ability to find space. You play zone against them, 0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:48.720 they'll kind of sit down and and Gino Smith will 0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:50.879 find a way to get them the football. And so 0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:53.480 that's where I think this game is really going to 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:55.760 hinge for the for the Cowboys. We'll see if Walker 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:59.960 plays in the running game for them. If he doesn't show, 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:03.119 Urbano is the is the is the backup, the rookie 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.440 from UCLA, and he's more of a straight line kind 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:08.280 of a runner. But these wide receivers are the ones 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.040 that I'm worried about right now. Can you match up 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:14.240 against them? Can you run with them? Can you cover them? 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.520 When you play quite as much man coverage as the 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:17.159 Cowboys do. 0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.679 So when you think about that from the standpoint of 0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:23.720 the skill set of this particular the Cowboys secondary, and 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:25.960 think about what they do well, what they don't do well, 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:27.680 how do they match up with those receivers? 0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:30.040 Yeah, Well, the thing about it is you're not There's 0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.920 no one you really can match up the size of metcalf. 0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:35.719 That's that's that's you're just gonna have to go battle 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.160 him and you're gonna and sometimes this guy will drop 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.840 the ball. Yeah, I mean he'll drop it and you're like, oh, 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:43.560 thank god, you know one of those things. But the 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.920 thing about it is that the things that I do 0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:49.960 always worry about. And we've seen with Lewis and we've 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.679 seen a little bit with Gilmour, it hasn't been as 0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:56.480 much and I'm I was waiting for someone to really 0:25:56.600 --> 0:26:00.000 challenge him on those inbreaking routes where he has to check. 0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.800 This could be one of those games where Seattle forces 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:09.439 Lewis and Lewis and then Gilmore to have to chase. 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:12.960 And when I say the inside those inbreaking routes right there, 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:14.280 you know, all of a sudden you're getting a bunch 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.320 of formation. They scatter and now the routes come, you know, 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.679 come one drives hard to the inside. Now you have 0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.840 to react and go with I think that I think 0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:26.119 that when you talk about Bland, Bland can run with anybody. 0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.160 Bland can play the ball. Bland can you know he's 0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.760 comfortable going across the field because he's a really good 0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.359 nickel player. He knows how to play all the field. 0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:37.960 With Gilmore and then with Lewis, it's going to be 0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:42.440 can they hold up with those inbreaking routes if they do. 0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:45.159 This is how San Francisco was able to stop, and 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.280 this how Baltimore was able. They didn't. They didn't allow 0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:51.919 those routes from their smaller, quicker players to affect him 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:52.400 in this game. 0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:56.680 Ye all right, I'm talking about Geno Smith. He's had 0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.680 the elbow injury now. He just sustained it two weeks ago. 0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.399 Did you see anything in the San Francisco game It 0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:05.560 made you think that's part of the problem because obviously 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.560 you said that they smothered them a they smothered them. 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.399 But with the injury, it's on his throwing hand, on 0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.320 his throwing arm. Is that a part of the equation 0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:15.800 as well, And that's something that maybe could benefit the 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:17.800 Cowboys that he's maybe not throwing the ball as well 0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:18.800 as he was throwing it before. 0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.680 I think the thing with Gino, it didn't look any 0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.919 different the way. There was some questions about the accuracy 0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.200 because of the way that they were playing the coverage 0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:30.439 and how tight it was. So but I've seen him 0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.680 when you go back and watch him play the Rams 0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.200 the week before. The Rams didn't play him as tight. 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.480 We've all seen the Rams out here. The Rams sometimes 0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:39.879 don't cover you, and he was able to Like he 0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.560 looked much better throwing the ball in that game, even 0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.160 some of the tight window stuff. It wasn't as it 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.760 wasn't as evident that there was the struggles there. But 0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:51.879 to me, the guy could still throw the ball in 0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.920 the rope. I mean there's anticipation there, there's some tight 0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:59.200 and throw it on the rope on the line. Could 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.400 he could really throw it on the line right there, 0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:05.080 So you know, with the anticipation, the timing and all that, 0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.520 he's got feel for that stuff. I do feel like 0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:11.560 his accuracy will come and go. But you know, he's 0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.480 one of those guys that to me, you watch him 0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:17.440 play and he can go the accuracy go up and down, 0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.520 or he will just light you up the way he plays. 0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.320 So I the thing I worry about a little bit 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.880 with him is the escapability in the pocket. He's got 0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:29.040 the size, the body type. He's not what these guys. 0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.280 It's going to allow defenders to bring him down easily. 0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:33.960 He's gonna move, He's sturdy, in the pocket in the 0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.760 way he plays, but there's snaps where he will hold 0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:38.760 onto the ball and he will take a sack. And 0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.360 the forty nine ers got after him pretty good because 0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.080 they knew if we cover their guys that he was 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.400 going to hold the ball and then you have to 0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:48.400 get after him that way. I think the Cowboys need 0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:52.280 the absolute same type of plan. Hold up in the secondary, 0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:54.480 make him hold the ball, and then get the pass 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:58.800 rush on this right side of this of this Seattle 0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.080 offensive line. Like I said, they've struggled with the right 0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:04.480 tackle spot at a couple of different Jason Peters has 0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.720 played over there. He got hurt. It looks like he'll 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.800 be okay. Storm Stone Forsyth is the tackle that kind 0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:13.720 of has been starting. He starts seven of the eleven games, 0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:16.640 and he's a guy that tends to play a little high. 0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:18.840 He's a really tall guy and he has and that 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:22.520 gives him problems because guys get underneath him, they drive 0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:24.480 him to the quarterback, or they get underneath him and 0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.200 get to the quarterback. So the right side of the 0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.480 offensive line is where you need to attack these guys 0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.600 and hopefully you can cover in the back end to 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.720 get your to get your guys coming off that left 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:34.600 side home on them. 0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:36.640 And then what I will say is what I'll add 0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:39.320 to that is and you can't say this about every 0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.600 NFL quarterback, but I believe you can say about Geno 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:45.000 Smith in this particular situation, stop the run and make 0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.080 them make the Seahawks imbalanced for a couple of reasons. One, 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.480 like Brian said, the right side of that offensive line, 0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.520 it can be had, especially with the way the Cowboys 0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.320 apply pressure to quarterbacks. But if you go back and 0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.480 you look at the last four games of the Seahawks, 0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.400 three of those losses to twenty eight rushing yards by 0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.320 the Ravens. That was a loss held to sixty eight 0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.360 rushing yards by the Rams. That was a loss eighty 0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.320 eight yards rushing a little bit better by the forty 0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:10.000 nine ers, but most of that was after the game 0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.240 was already out of hand. So if you can stop 0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:16.000 the run for the Seattle Seahawks, you force the game 0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.280 on the Gino, you will have to deal with the 0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.040 escapability completing of it. But this is a guy who's 0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.560 not completely healthy. We don't know what the if the 0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:27.040 elbow injury is hampering or dampting what he can do. 0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.360 But the fact is it's there, so that means it's 0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.240 there for him mentally as well. He doesn't want to 0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:32.840 have to take the hit, he doesn't want to have 0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:34.520 to make the throw, he doesn't want to make et cetera, 0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:36.960 et cetera, apply pressure to him, make him overthink. It 0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.040 made him play hero ball because also two turnovers against 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.760 the Ravens, a turnover against the Rams, two turnovers against 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.440 the forty nine ers make Gino win the game for 0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.960 the Seahawks. And that will give you opportunities for guys 0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.400 like to Ron Bland to take the ball away, get home, 0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:54.360 maybe Michael Parson sack fumble, Sam Williams sack fumble. Oh 0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:57.400 soly saw what Jonathan Hankins multi sac game. So you 0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:59.320 can get pressure up front, but you gotta stop that 0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.600 run otherwise he's going to be way too comfortable back 0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.800 there with weapons like Metcalf, Lockett and JS And. 0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.160 Let's take our final break when we come back. I 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.400 want to know more about these running backs. Kenneth Walker 0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:12.320 was a guy that last year seemed to be really 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.520 really playing really well. This year they've been a little 0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.080 less effective. 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Visit the Star District 0:33:59.000 --> 0:33:59.760 dot com for more. 0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.520 Today, Welcome back. It is the final segment of the 0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:07.280 Break Class Again's Opportunities. That's because Amber was over talking 0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:12.160 to me about you. I mean, I can't up because 0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:13.399 like talking to me. 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.680 Like we got lunch, we got to get to lone 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:17.080 mind my own business. 0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:17.440 I was. 0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:22.360 Trying to and then he accommodate Amber. 0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.839 One is she trying to Is she trying to get 0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:29.640 this show over at forty five exactly? 0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:32.560 He's like, She's like, do not make me miss lunch. 0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.759 He's over here showing me the lunch menu. 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:37.240 What do you guys got today? 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:41.399 We got Nashville Hot fried chicken. All right, sounds pretty good, 0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:41.879 isn't it? 0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:43.800 But today we're on a Friday schedule. 0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:44.799 Yes, we got me. 0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.480 You don't have like five minutes to get lunch, which 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:49.360 means we cannot end this show late. 0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:52.400 Because then they will not let us go through. And 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:54.560 you do not want hungry. 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:56.360 I want to know what checks have, No, I do not. 0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:58.520 I want to know what upstairs? 0:34:58.640 --> 0:34:59.759 Yeah, oh they're in the club. 0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.839 Oh absolutely, that wag that wag Burger is pretty good 0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:04.880 up there. 0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.880 If any of us can do that, as you you think, yeah. 0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:10.839 We get away with it, we know, Yeah, all right, 0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.440 I might try. Let's see what happens. Just walk up, like, 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:14.680 what what's going on? We got a deal? 0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.520 Just man from the from the fish. 0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.480 I'm would PLoP down in order that Wago burger out 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.000 there that they have. It's it's really good. All right. 0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.440 Let's uh, let's talk about the running backs. I want 0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.200 to give you an idea. Brian of Kennith Walker is 0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.560 a guy that that's that's been without him a little. 0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.040 Him and Zach Charboney what what kind of problems they 0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:35.040 present for the cow Well, the. 0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.359 Thing with Kenneth Walker and they're both kind of like 0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.200 powerful guys when it comes to running. I send the 0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:42.400 spell Walker. If you go up there and try to 0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:46.000 kind of just half assed tackle, he's going to run 0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:47.960 through you. I mean you have to go up there 0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.440 and be committed to being able to like put a 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.160 shoulder in there, get bodies onto him. Uh, you know, 0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:55.680 I called him that, like I said, a no nonsense runner, 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.560 and you know he'll break a lot of tackles because 0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.839 of his running style, the lower body power, you know. 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.120 I think that's something that you know, they hand him 0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.399 the ball. They play a lot of pistols, so he's 0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:08.480 right behind, they'll hand him the ball. He'll just kind 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:10.800 of he'll commit either inside bounce a little bit. I 0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:14.040 think he's got a little bit more movement than what 0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:17.080 you have with Sharbono. Sharboneau to me is a UCLA. 0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:19.880 And it's funny Patrick and I were talking about we 0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:22.319 were all talking about running backs, but you watched him 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.960 what Chip Kelly was doing with him at UCLA. They 0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.480 gave the ball over five hundred times in two years, 0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.959 so they just it was downhill, downhill, straight ahead, straight ahead, 0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.480 And that's kind of back he is. He can handle 0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:38.040 that workload. So that's that's something. Both these backs have 0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:40.960 an element of a power game to him. Can their 0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:44.080 offensive line. I look at this offensive line and to me, 0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:47.239 it's very push shove, and I mean push shove. It's 0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:49.160 like they come off the ball, they get in their guy, 0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.080 and they tried and then they put and then they 0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.440 and then they try and shove the guy wherever they 0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:56.360 want to go. It's not like connect and then drive 0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.680 or combination blocks or get to the second level. It's 0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.879 like secure the down guys first and then let the 0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:06.880 backs deal with whatever else is behind the linebackers. And 0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:10.040 because you'll see guys just locked on their guys. But 0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:14.040 it's not like traditional blocking. It's in the guy push push, 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:15.200 Oh you want to go that way, I'm just going 0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:16.239 to push you that way. 0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:16.600 Yeah. 0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:18.640 There's not a lot of rhyme or reason to their 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.279 scheme in the way that they run. They really allow 0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.279 on their backs to be able to break tackles or 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:25.600 to get extra yards. 0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:28.320 Yeah, so, and which goes back to the point stop 0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.480 the run if you're Dallas Cowboys, so that you can 0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.720 force this game in the air. But something that Brian 0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.880 mentioned a little bit earlier that we want to make 0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.000 sure that the Cowboys fans are paying attention to is 0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:39.640 the status of Kenneth Walker. He's dealing with an oblique injury. 0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:43.560 He did not participate in yesterday's practice, so you know 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.480 there's a possibility that either he will not play at 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:48.960 all or he will be kind of hindered by that 0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:51.280 oblique injury, and that will put a lot of onus 0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.640 on Zach charbon Nay, who during the break I was 0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:57.360 saying I was so high on Charbonnay. Absolutely, he was 0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.160 one of the guys. He was the second running back 0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:01.279 that I wanted if we couldn't get a chain. We 0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.480 didn't get either, which is fine, But charlon Nay he 0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:07.319 did a lot of good things for UCLA. And the 0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:10.640 thing about him is being a downhill runner, he's surprisingly 0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.040 good with his hands as well, so he can catch 0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.359 the ball out of the backfield, so you know, keep 0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:18.200 that in mind as well. But he's as talented as 0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.080 any other running back in the league. But Kenneth Walker, 0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:22.200 keep an eye on that oblique injury. We'll see if 0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:23.080 he even plays this game. 0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:26.799 Yeah, the word out of Seattle is that maybe they 0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:30.080 won't practice him, but they'll play him. That kind of thing, 0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.000 that they felt like that maybe they didn't have to 0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:34.600 have him on the field. We'll see that. Thursday is 0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.000 a short week. It's here before we know it. They 0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:39.520 might determine, you know, we can't you know, but they 0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:41.880 also might say, we can't lose any more games. 0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:42.480 You know. 0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:45.160 They're in that situation too. So players this time of 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.239 year kind of step up when they might not be 0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:48.040 exactly ready to. 0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:49.560 And leak is tough. 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.400 When you take a shot to the oblique that's already 0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:53.440 kind of injured. 0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.719 That ain't fun. Yeah, that ain't fun at all. 0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.160 So if you're Kenneth Walker, that's something to consider as well. 0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.279 Because this is a Cowboys defense and defensive line that 0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.040 can beat up on you physically, and they typically do 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:06.880 beat up on their opposition. If you look at what 0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:10.319 happens to their opposition in the weeks to follow playing 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.919 the Dallas Cowboys, that injury report tends to grow. 0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.800 Yeah, all things considered Marquis Bell I think has played 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:19.319 fairly well. Yeah, as a linebacker. Have you guys seen 0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.880 anything that would make you be concerned about him matching 0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:25.200 up with size and power, powerful running backs that kind 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:26.880 of thing, because that was one of the things that 0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:29.279 you always were concerned about is he's not really a 0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:32.560 typical linebacker size. But if you face a team that 0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.480 maybe where the backs are a little more powerful, they're 0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:37.440 willing to put their shoulder down and run into you. Like, 0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:39.080 do you see that being a problem for Bell? 0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:43.880 Better away than at Yeah, better player when he could chase, 0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:45.920 you know, when the ball goes h maybe it's a 0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:49.359 little bit off the edge perimeter, play better on the chase. Now, 0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:52.240 I'll tell you what the thing that with him and Clark, 0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:55.719 both of them, when you watch them play run defense inside, 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:59.440 when the ball is inside, they'll step up. The problem 0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:03.560 is two and fifteen to sixteen pound guy taking on 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.600 three hundred and twenty pound guards and stuff like that. 0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.080 It's not fair fight. So that's where to me, I 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:12.319 you know, you go out, you're try and you're trying 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.840 to sign the shack linard just because you're missing that 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:20.120 element of having Leyton Vanderin. You're missing because you can 0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.560 have one guy play light. You can't have two guys 0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:26.000 play light. That's the problem they're dealing with right now. 0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:28.359 All right, I have one more question for you guys, 0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:31.440 for me in the show to Ron Bland. We obviously 0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:40.560 have talked about den I'm opening a new I'm opening 0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:42.479 a new topic, and we got like three and a half. 0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:43.480 That's just kill. 0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:46.160 Watch me, philister here. 0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:48.800 Okay, So here's the question, this question too. 0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:49.160 Okay. 0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.480 Is Deron Bland a legitimate candidate candidate for Defensive Player 0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:52.799 of the Year. 0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:53.400 Absolutely. 0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:56.760 I think anyone who doesn't have him in the conversation 0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.880 lose his credibility. I mean, he's on a historic run. 0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.799 And yeah, it's a it's a an award that's typically 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.160 dominated by pass rushers, and this year, look at the 0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:09.360 front runners. Their pass rushers household name is Miles Garrett, T. J. 0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:09.680 Watt. 0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:13.319 The list goes on and on, but there's no justifiable 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.800 way to keep a guy with five picks sixes through 0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:20.040 eleven games out of the conversation for Defensive Player of 0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:20.399 the Year. 0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.000 Metrics will tell you that five picks sixes or were 0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:25.560 twenty sacks making the all of the leader in the 0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:26.960 division or the. 0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:28.560 Leader how many games left? 0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:30.319 Yeah, right, that would be so if you if you're 0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:32.080 if you're one of those guys and gals that believe 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.720 in metrics, and I always say that that that that 0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:37.920 that's what that equates to. Those pick sixes equate to 0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:40.920 four sacks of pick six So he's got twenty of 0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.319 those sacks if you want to do that kind of math. 0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:44.839 Who came up with that math? 0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:46.560 There's people that come up with all kinds of. 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:50.960 That's worth three sacks? 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.560 Well that they it's the way these people with metrics 0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:57.719 and they create they create formulas against like yeah, like yeah, 0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:00.439 they're they're they're absolutely saying, yeah, what he what he's 0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:03.120 doing on the defensive side, you have to find a 0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:07.200 way to be able to compare what his what he's 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.319 doing as a defendant as a defensive back. 0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:14.359 And I don't know how he could not be in 0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.160 the conversation for that for Defensive Player of the Year. 0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:21.799 I mean just it is extremely hard to just get 0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:25.560 one interception, let alone run and make it to the 0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:28.520 end zone and get it touched ONWN every time he's 0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:31.680 had those, So it's that that is so difficult and 0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.239 it's so impressive. 0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:35.200 The way and the it's happening in year two. 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:39.919 This is the second year in the league, in the NFL, Yes, 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:43.279 at a whole different level. And he's managed the new 0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:46.279 role with Trevon Diggs coming out with the injury. He's 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:49.839 managed taking over that role extremely well. He's had those 0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:54.640 moments where last game, Brian, you talked about it yesterday 0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:58.080 a little bit. Yeah, he and everyone has those type 0:42:58.120 --> 0:42:59.719 of games. There are games that you don't have a 0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.200 Mic Parson really showing up. 0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:02.800 That happens. 0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:06.880 Yeah, so, but looking through the whole season as a whole, 0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.759 he's had an excellent, fantastic year. 0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:12.000 Yeah, it's kind of like the same argument you would 0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.239 trying to get Dack into the MVP candidate. You know, 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.200 you've got to find a way to keep winning games. 0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:19.040 You got to find a way to this next run 0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.200 of games. You got to find a way to beat 0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.759 guys that you're competing against. You know, you got to 0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:25.799 find a way to beat Jalen Hurts. He didn't beat 0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.879 you know, the guy in San Francisco who's up there 0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:30.919 for the opportunity of that. But you got to find 0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.279 a way to you know, guys like that you got 0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:35.080 to find a way to win these games. And then 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:37.560 you know it's the voters say, well, look, it's a 0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:41.640 dominant team, dominant player. You know, even though I do 0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:45.000 believe in my heart that a three loss guy is 0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.319 going to win the Heisman Trophy this weekend, you know 0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.759 at LSU and you know, so we'll see, I mean, 0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:54.400 but it it happens. But usually it's teams that have 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:58.440 players on winning teams that get these awards. 0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.480 One thing to note is Deron Bland. He only has 0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:03.360 to look across the field to see a guy that 0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:06.560 did it. You look at what Stephen Gilmour did back 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.359 in twenty nineteen. He was Defensive Player of the Year 0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:11.920 and that year he had six interceptions, only two of 0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:15.400 them returned for a touchdown. He had twenty pass defenses. 0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:19.840 In comparison, Bland has thirteen pass defenses, five interceptions, I 0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:22.759 mean sorry, six inter sections and five returns for such 0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:23.960 The Patriots win the Super. 0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:24.480 Bowl that year. 0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:27.760 Twenty nineteen, Was that right. 0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:29.120 Twenty nineteen? 0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:30.160 I don't remember. 0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:31.319 I'm trying to remember. I can't. 0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:32.680 They were in the hunt. That was when they were 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:35.800 still I can't relevant Munch that was definitely the relevant 0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:37.680 but yeah, I think I do think that that's a 0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.000 part of it. Like you look at it, it's possible 0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:42.520 when you're having that much production, certainly when you got 0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.920 five pick sixes and it's a historic record, something that 0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:48.560 nobody else in the history of the league has ever done. 0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:50.960 I think that makes the case as much as anything 0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:52.239 else for him to win defensive player. 0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:53.640 Well, really, and in a couple of things. 0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.480 One, if you're having the defensive player for your conversation 0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:58.399 and you don't have Deryan Bland in it, you're telling 0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:01.919 on yourself the effect. But what what would be fun 0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:06.160 if would be if the NFL adopted something from MLB 0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:08.800 war I'm interested to see, like, for a player like 0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:11.560 Dron Bland, what would be his win over replacement right now? 0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:13.399 I think that would be a fun stat to kind 0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:16.120 of adopt at the NFL level. But again, to your point, 0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.080 there's just no way you can't have Durn that you 0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:20.279 don't have Deron Bland and your DPOI convers. 0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:21.839 At least in the conversation. Even if he doesn't win, 0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.080 he should be in the conversation. All right, we'll appreciate 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:24.359 you guys. 0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.800 Twenty eighteen the last year, Yeah, eighteen. 0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:30.680 Yeah, they win the Super bowy Ov, they beat they 0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:33.000 beat the Rams and then the following your Kansas City 0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:33.960 beat San Francisco. 0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:36.240 All right, we'll appreciate you on us. We're back tomorrow. 0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:39.239 We'll jump into Seattle's defense versus the Cowboys offense till 0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:41.960 there's Patrick wafferd Walker brought us. 0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:45.439 Right. 0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.479 I'm Derek Egleton has been The Break live on Dallas 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:49.040 Cowboys dot Com Radio Belgia. 0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:52.200 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:54.120 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.