1
00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,879
Speaker 1: Welcome to the debut edition of Bird Noises in Atlanta

2
00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,760
Speaker 1: Falcons podcast about football and mostly everything else. Sorry, but

3
00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,520
Speaker 1: the name just makes me laugh. So I'm at the

4
00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,400
Speaker 1: Beak and when they asked me who the first Roust

5
00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,239
Speaker 1: guest was going to be, I said, it's got to

6
00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,760
Speaker 1: be Jack Crawford. Jack. So welcome to the podcast. Man.

7
00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be hire man Bird Noise to debut. Yeah,

8
00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,840
Speaker 1: what do you think of that name? Um, it's definitely unique.

9
00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,680
Speaker 1: Um no, it's good. It's you know, something that I

10
00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,800
Speaker 1: couldn't I wouldn't be able to think of myself. I'm

11
00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,600
Speaker 1: much sure if anyone would be able to think of that.

12
00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,959
Speaker 1: I don't think many people did think of this one,

13
00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:47,279
Speaker 1: except for Dan gatt Our, digital director. Speaking of names,

14
00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,960
Speaker 1: you might have the best Twitter handle sacrilegious. Yeah, people,

15
00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,400
Speaker 1: you know what? Someone said that to me before and

16
00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,520
Speaker 1: I had a few actually, did you? Yeah? I did?

17
00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,840
Speaker 1: I did. So. I had like started with Sacks FI five.

18
00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,480
Speaker 1: Oh I like that one, yeah yeah, and then I

19
00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:10,440
Speaker 1: had Goldenman sax gold okay, and then sacrilegious just sounds me.

20
00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that definitely. It was definitely stuck with it. Um,

21
00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,880
Speaker 1: all right, So what do you think of these new digs?

22
00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,240
Speaker 1: What do you think of the table here? The microphone? Yeah, yeah,

23
00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,000
Speaker 1: it's like it's definitely built for a podcast. Yeah, you

24
00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,959
Speaker 1: got a curtain on the ceiling. I heard you. The

25
00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,520
Speaker 1: reason I ask you is because I heard you know

26
00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,080
Speaker 1: your way around a studio. Oh yeah, yeah, I heard

27
00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,200
Speaker 1: that you did a little music producing man. Yeah that

28
00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,440
Speaker 1: was back in my heydays. When I was growing up,

29
00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,679
Speaker 1: I used to be into music. I mean music was

30
00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,720
Speaker 1: my first love growing up. That's what I heard. Yeah,

31
00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:50,240
Speaker 1: so yeah, let's talk a little music here. So when

32
00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,640
Speaker 1: you were growing up, what was what? What kind of music? Well,

33
00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,120
Speaker 1: first of all, what kind of music did you produce?

34
00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,480
Speaker 1: What kind of what do you kind of music you

35
00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,160
Speaker 1: listen to? Um? Well, you know, I was influence still

36
00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,280
Speaker 1: by my older brothers and they were big into hip hop,

37
00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,840
Speaker 1: so I was, you know obviously growing up in London. Um,

38
00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,200
Speaker 1: hip hop is big in London. Grime, grime. Yeah. So

39
00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,240
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, we had garage music, which

40
00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,760
Speaker 1: was like upbeat tempo, more like more like house okay,

41
00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,839
Speaker 1: it was a little bit more like grime, you yeah,

42
00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,520
Speaker 1: and then came grime music, which was like kind of

43
00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,960
Speaker 1: street music that came from the inner cities in London,

44
00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,000
Speaker 1: little grittier. Yeah it was. Yeah, it was very grimy,

45
00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,400
Speaker 1: just underground. It was all on the ground and then

46
00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,400
Speaker 1: it blew up and yeah, that's like as I was

47
00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,440
Speaker 1: growing up in London, it blew up and that was

48
00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,720
Speaker 1: like what everyone listened to. So is there any like

49
00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:49,119
Speaker 1: Jack Crawford songs floating out there, like out on the interwebs? Man,

50
00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,200
Speaker 1: that might be, but we gotta get our hands on

51
00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:53,720
Speaker 1: so I don't know if I'll be able to find

52
00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,960
Speaker 1: it right now. So who's your favorite artist or your

53
00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,239
Speaker 1: favorite band or who'd you listen to? I mean, that's

54
00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,440
Speaker 1: tough man, that's Storms, see how it's a little stormsy Dave.

55
00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah sometime, Davey. I listened to a little bit of him.

56
00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,120
Speaker 1: I got. I got a couple of friends too bad

57
00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,280
Speaker 1: who you know they rap? Well? You know? Okay? Yeah,

58
00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,480
Speaker 1: So can you tell I did some research? Yeah, I know,

59
00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,560
Speaker 1: I listen to Storms, David. I don't listen to any

60
00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,120
Speaker 1: of that. You should. You should check it out. Man.

61
00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,000
Speaker 1: A lot of people when they hear it, they in

62
00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,680
Speaker 1: the in the States, they like it. Okay, because you

63
00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,320
Speaker 1: got to hook me up with some tracks Yeah, there's

64
00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,200
Speaker 1: a lot of talent that comes out England. All right,

65
00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,880
Speaker 1: so you've lived over here for since gosh, you moved

66
00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,880
Speaker 1: over to New Jersey. What early two thousands? Yeah, two

67
00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,800
Speaker 1: thousand and five. Let's stay on the topic of music

68
00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,600
Speaker 1: though for a minute. Yeah, what's better British rap hip

69
00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:49,120
Speaker 1: hop or American rap hip hop? Man's it's tough questions.

70
00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,480
Speaker 1: It's a tough question. I'm going to ask you with

71
00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,839
Speaker 1: the hard stuff. There's a tough question, and it's they're

72
00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,720
Speaker 1: very different, um man, that's tough. You know. I would

73
00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:03,720
Speaker 1: say that they both better at different like things. So

74
00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,040
Speaker 1: I'd say American hip hop is. I like the beats

75
00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,680
Speaker 1: and I think that they're very catchy. Okay, but the

76
00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,440
Speaker 1: content isn't that I have a level whereas I think

77
00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,960
Speaker 1: English grime or hip hop is. I think they're like content,

78
00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,120
Speaker 1: it's really good. I think the lyricists is really good,

79
00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,360
Speaker 1: are really good. But I would say that, you know,

80
00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,599
Speaker 1: a lot of it is actually just too fast for

81
00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:33,760
Speaker 1: Americans understand it. Okay, who's your favorite American hip hop

82
00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,440
Speaker 1: rap artist? Oh? Drake? Oh he's a Canadian. Um sorry,

83
00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,000
Speaker 1: you can claim him. North American will take Yeah, Yeah,

84
00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people wouldn't. I wouldn't be happy with

85
00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,000
Speaker 1: oh back yeah, back in the day. I think Eminem's

86
00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,840
Speaker 1: top five. Ye see, that's Marshall Mathers top five, top five.

87
00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,279
Speaker 1: Right now, I would I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that. Okay,

88
00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,800
Speaker 1: right now he's a little different. All right. So let's

89
00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,440
Speaker 1: now we're talking about English. How does a kid from Kilburn,

90
00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,520
Speaker 1: which is northwest of London right end up in was

91
00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:10,799
Speaker 1: it Longport, New Jersey? Yeah? How does that happen? Man?

92
00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,360
Speaker 1: It's crazy because I mean, honestly, I just came over.

93
00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,920
Speaker 1: So I went to a basketball camp in New Jersey.

94
00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,600
Speaker 1: I heard that was your first love. Yeah, in South Jersey. Yeah,

95
00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,440
Speaker 1: I played basketball growing up. And then um, I um,

96
00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,839
Speaker 1: there were some scouts there from Saint Augustine Prep High School.

97
00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,839
Speaker 1: How tall were you in high school? Honestly? I played

98
00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,400
Speaker 1: about six four Okay, so yeah, I grew pretty early. Yeah.

99
00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,520
Speaker 1: And then um, yeah, no, I was in I went

100
00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,280
Speaker 1: to bostball camp in South Jersey and then there were

101
00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,560
Speaker 1: just scouts from local high schools, you know, like New Jersey,

102
00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,840
Speaker 1: New York, Philadelphia area, and they were just looking, um

103
00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,320
Speaker 1: you know this, It's like almost like an international camp,

104
00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,479
Speaker 1: but it was also mixed in with AU teams too, okay, okay,

105
00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,560
Speaker 1: and so they kind of saw me playing out there

106
00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,280
Speaker 1: and they thought, you know, they wanted me to come

107
00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,920
Speaker 1: to the school. So you end up at St. Augustine's yea,

108
00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,080
Speaker 1: and uh you played basketball and then you went out

109
00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,160
Speaker 1: for some football ye and then boom yeah yeah would

110
00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,279
Speaker 1: you play defensive man? Yeah? So like when I when

111
00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,600
Speaker 1: I started my the head the head coach at the time,

112
00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,960
Speaker 1: he just wanted me to play in the Bostel coach

113
00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,800
Speaker 1: didn't woman to play, and so I used to go

114
00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,440
Speaker 1: to the I went to the games my first year

115
00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,080
Speaker 1: at the school. When I didn't play. It was my

116
00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,480
Speaker 1: sophomore year I went to the football games. Okay, And

117
00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, I just thought, I mean, I grew up

118
00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:38,120
Speaker 1: playing I played rugby, you know, football, soccer. So so

119
00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,719
Speaker 1: did you play a lot? Was there a lot of

120
00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,520
Speaker 1: basketball in England? Or was it mainly soccer? What were

121
00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,080
Speaker 1: the sports you guys play? It was mainly soccer, but

122
00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,839
Speaker 1: it was yeah, it's like the it was mainly soccer.

123
00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up playing every sport to be

124
00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,919
Speaker 1: honest with Okay, my dad man, he played cricket, growing

125
00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,839
Speaker 1: up to Wow. Yeah, okay, so like I boxed, I

126
00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,240
Speaker 1: did everything. So you know when I got to the

127
00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,240
Speaker 1: States and I saw high school football games, yeah, I

128
00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,080
Speaker 1: thought to myself, you know I could I could do

129
00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,520
Speaker 1: this for show. And then I went out to the

130
00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,359
Speaker 1: I went out for the team and played wide receiver

131
00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:15,320
Speaker 1: and defensive end wide receiver Jack Crawford, Wow, possession receiver

132
00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,560
Speaker 1: or were you at Jeff speed or what? Oh? Yeah

133
00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,880
Speaker 1: I was Yeah, I was captain. I was no blocking.

134
00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,320
Speaker 1: All right, So one more question about England. I promised

135
00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,400
Speaker 1: myself I would not ask you a question about Daniel Rad.

136
00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,400
Speaker 1: Is that the number one question, by the way that

137
00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:36,240
Speaker 1: people ask you? Probably in the number two? Yeah, number two.

138
00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,800
Speaker 1: Um And for those of you listening and don't know

139
00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,920
Speaker 1: who Daniel radcliff, if he's the actor who plays Harry Potter,

140
00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,480
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this though, Are you Harry Potter fan?

141
00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,080
Speaker 1: Did you watch the movie series or read the books

142
00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,920
Speaker 1: or um? Man, I seem like I think I've seen

143
00:07:52,960 --> 00:08:00,480
Speaker 1: that lost three movies in the whole Deathely, Hollows, Blood Prince. Yeah,

144
00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,160
Speaker 1: I think I've seen the last three. I didn't. I

145
00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,200
Speaker 1: didn't like I wasn't a big Harry Potter, fand it. Okay, Okay,

146
00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,240
Speaker 1: so you couldn't rank the movies or anything that I

147
00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,960
Speaker 1: couldn't rank them, Okay, But um, yeah I went to

148
00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:16,040
Speaker 1: school with him. Yeah, I read no not you guys?

149
00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,800
Speaker 1: Are you guys like when you see each other, he

150
00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,000
Speaker 1: calls you j J. That that's why people are back

151
00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,960
Speaker 1: in London call me. I don't know if he saw

152
00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,080
Speaker 1: me now he would remember who I was. Now he

153
00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,400
Speaker 1: was you know, on billboards in Hollywood. But so you

154
00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:35,560
Speaker 1: end up getting his scholarship to Happy Valley, Penn State. Um,

155
00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,480
Speaker 1: what was what was your friend? When you're out there

156
00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,640
Speaker 1: in state college? There's not much to do out in

157
00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,240
Speaker 1: state college except watch football, right you were you homesick

158
00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,600
Speaker 1: at all or what you mean? Oh? Yeah? At first

159
00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,440
Speaker 1: people don't know that's it's like out in the middle

160
00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,319
Speaker 1: of nowhere, right, and it's in the mountains. Yeah, about

161
00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,440
Speaker 1: three hours from any big city. So for me, it

162
00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,280
Speaker 1: was definitely the biggest culture shop moving out there. But

163
00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,840
Speaker 1: it was just fun. I'm outside of you. Um, it's

164
00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,360
Speaker 1: even it's even like a yeah, that's even a major

165
00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,360
Speaker 1: change from south southern Jersey. Right. So my first year, honestly,

166
00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,280
Speaker 1: I was home say I was miserable. Um, and I

167
00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:19,000
Speaker 1: asked uh Joe to transfer? Really yeah? Did you want

168
00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,240
Speaker 1: to leave school or did you just want to go

169
00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,959
Speaker 1: to another school? I wanted to go to a different school.

170
00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,280
Speaker 1: Where do you want to go? I can say it now, Yeah,

171
00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,199
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to Maryland really yeah. It was

172
00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,839
Speaker 1: the coach then Frejian l Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

173
00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,079
Speaker 1: I went to West Virginia. So yeah, and I'm actually

174
00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,079
Speaker 1: I grew up north of Penn State, in upstate New York. Yeah,

175
00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,640
Speaker 1: or north of Scranton. Okay, yeah, yeah, I know how

176
00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,040
Speaker 1: boring it is up there. That's where the office is basement. Yeah,

177
00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,160
Speaker 1: so you're a fan of the office, the English one,

178
00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,439
Speaker 1: that see. I like the English one too. Not a

179
00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,160
Speaker 1: lot of people do. Ricky javas well. American Humans a

180
00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,200
Speaker 1: little bit. I have to put the subtitles on though, Yeah,

181
00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,720
Speaker 1: in the English one. Yeah, because I you understand it

182
00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,040
Speaker 1: once you get once you watch it. Yeah, and I

183
00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,079
Speaker 1: can understand a little bit. I see that. I mean

184
00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,760
Speaker 1: English Human is a lot more like Blend. Yeah, but

185
00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,600
Speaker 1: it's more, um, it's like more content. It's like I

186
00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,080
Speaker 1: feel like the jokes a little bit more explained to me,

187
00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,120
Speaker 1: I love crazy human, Yeah, I love imagine. Um. So

188
00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,680
Speaker 1: paternal said no, yeah, he said no, yeah, he said nah,

189
00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,080
Speaker 1: which was you know, it was best for me. You know,

190
00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,760
Speaker 1: it was just I was in a situation I didn't

191
00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,440
Speaker 1: like and it was only and I mean, not to

192
00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,200
Speaker 1: do with football at all. It was just because I

193
00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,560
Speaker 1: didn't like being out there, and you know I felt

194
00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,800
Speaker 1: kind of landlocked. Yeah, because I wasn't near a city

195
00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,200
Speaker 1: and I grew up in the city, so I feel

196
00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,480
Speaker 1: like I had that like I had to be able

197
00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,400
Speaker 1: to move around, and I felt like I was stuck.

198
00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,679
Speaker 1: Well you're you're a kind of worldly guy anyway you've been.

199
00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,480
Speaker 1: We'll get into that in a second. But so you

200
00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,080
Speaker 1: stick it out at Penn State, you end up getting drafted,

201
00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,720
Speaker 1: you go to Oakland, right, Yeah, I don't want this

202
00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,559
Speaker 1: is we don't want to talk too much football yet,

203
00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:04,600
Speaker 1: but so that another big change in scenery. Um, speaking

204
00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,960
Speaker 1: of Penn State, were you an anthropology major? I was?

205
00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,480
Speaker 1: Where does that step from? Where? Tell me about that.

206
00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,160
Speaker 1: I got to Penn State and I had no idea

207
00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,560
Speaker 1: what I went to major, and and so I went

208
00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,240
Speaker 1: from like I started out philosophy, which I was a

209
00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,320
Speaker 1: little bit too much reading and write for me, and

210
00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,680
Speaker 1: then um, and then I moved over and then I

211
00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,440
Speaker 1: switched to international politics because I wanted to work with

212
00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,480
Speaker 1: something that was kind of a little bit more into

213
00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:42,120
Speaker 1: like I would say, like learning about different So yeah,

214
00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,840
Speaker 1: but like intense politics wasn't it was all politics, So

215
00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,120
Speaker 1: that wasn't the switch to make. And so I switched

216
00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,360
Speaker 1: from that to anthropology, which learned about different cultures, like

217
00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,000
Speaker 1: the history of culture and stuff like that. So for me,

218
00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,520
Speaker 1: that was what I was interested in. I'm not going

219
00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:00,000
Speaker 1: to go and you know like excavate a you know, bones, yeah,

220
00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,120
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I mean it was what I

221
00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,679
Speaker 1: was interested in at the time. And so you know,

222
00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,360
Speaker 1: I figured, why not study that? If you weren't playing

223
00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,920
Speaker 1: sports or playing football, what would you be doing right now? Man,

224
00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,320
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I think that I would have

225
00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:24,320
Speaker 1: to I would have to keep the same competition. And

226
00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,880
Speaker 1: a journalist competitive. Yeah, I'm competitive, and I think that

227
00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,720
Speaker 1: playing football for so long it builds that within you.

228
00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,440
Speaker 1: You know, it's like a it has to be like

229
00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,839
Speaker 1: a physical competition, you know. So you know, I've I've

230
00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,000
Speaker 1: become a big fan of MMA and you know, like

231
00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:47,160
Speaker 1: mixed martial lots and and I think after I'm done playing,

232
00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,160
Speaker 1: I would like to just you do that on the

233
00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,360
Speaker 1: side to help train or anything like that. Yeah, so

234
00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,640
Speaker 1: I do a lot of the training. Um. This offseason,

235
00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,640
Speaker 1: I trained with a couple of guys who are uh

236
00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,680
Speaker 1: MMA trainers at gym's down in Florida and on the

237
00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,240
Speaker 1: West coast. Wow. And uh yeah, I'm friends with a

238
00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,240
Speaker 1: couple guys in the UFC. Is that playing defensive line?

239
00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,720
Speaker 1: Does that help you? Is a pass rusher? What we do?

240
00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,240
Speaker 1: It's the same thing, the same as a defensive line

241
00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,959
Speaker 1: and past Russia, it's it's pretty much the same thing

242
00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:23,000
Speaker 1: as wrestling, uh grappling. It's just that you're running, Yeah,

243
00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,480
Speaker 1: and instead of trying to get someone to it's trying

244
00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,480
Speaker 1: to break somebody's arm, You're just trying to get past somebody.

245
00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,760
Speaker 1: So it's you know, it's but it's essentially the body

246
00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,440
Speaker 1: movements are very similar. Okay, Um, yeah, I mean outside

247
00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,040
Speaker 1: of outside of football, here do you? I mean, what

248
00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,160
Speaker 1: kind of hobbies do you have? I mean besides MMA,

249
00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,480
Speaker 1: are you a car guy? Or I know you like music?

250
00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,280
Speaker 1: I know you like the office. Um, you get a dry,

251
00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:51,520
Speaker 1: funny sense of humor, but yeah, Honestly, I'm a big

252
00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:57,760
Speaker 1: Overwatch guy. Watch. Okay, it's a game, yeah, on PlayStation. Okay,

253
00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,839
Speaker 1: it's actually really a super gamer, I said, as a sport.

254
00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,360
Speaker 1: People would say it's a game. Okay, it's more of

255
00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,120
Speaker 1: a sport. There is. There's a league now, okay, and

256
00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,040
Speaker 1: they show on ESPN sometimes. Yeah, but no, I just

257
00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,240
Speaker 1: played that. You know. It's something I played Unwind. I

258
00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,439
Speaker 1: play with my brother and a couple of friends, and

259
00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,680
Speaker 1: I totally get it. I do it too. I not Overwatch,

260
00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,480
Speaker 1: but I need to look into that. I think my

261
00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,600
Speaker 1: son plays that. I get. I get into sky Rim.

262
00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,600
Speaker 1: Oh see, I've heard of that. Kaylin McGary is a

263
00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,800
Speaker 1: big sky really yeah is it? What's the premise, what's

264
00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,800
Speaker 1: the concept of the teams? No, it's basically you're just

265
00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,640
Speaker 1: a it's an adventure game. You just go wherever the

266
00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,600
Speaker 1: heck you want to go. There's quests and stuff like that.

267
00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,600
Speaker 1: Well yeah, see this is like you pick a race,

268
00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,760
Speaker 1: you build up the character. Yeah that's crazy. Yeah see

269
00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,840
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's like, I know what kind of game

270
00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about, Like, yeah, it's like one of those

271
00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:55,840
Speaker 1: large like box yeah, huge games. See. I play Overwatch

272
00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,480
Speaker 1: as a team game. Yeah, that's a lot of strategy.

273
00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,120
Speaker 1: I get into that. I don't know, I just I

274
00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:09,280
Speaker 1: just I get set in my way. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Um.

275
00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,400
Speaker 1: So you like video games, yeah, and that's kind of

276
00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,000
Speaker 1: like that's the way you kind of just decompress. Yeah yeah,

277
00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,800
Speaker 1: well really watch I really don't play up a game. Okay,

278
00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,040
Speaker 1: that's it. That's all I played to it. Yeah. How

279
00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,640
Speaker 1: many hours you play there? Man? A day? Yeah, I

280
00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,280
Speaker 1: mean we don't play every day. Okay, so you know

281
00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,640
Speaker 1: we take breaks up here. Okay, you know, depending like

282
00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,240
Speaker 1: there's a season, so right now it's eighteen, season eighteen.

283
00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,400
Speaker 1: But in the offseason, you know, chill, people train for this,

284
00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,880
Speaker 1: right people know that's real teams, Like that's there's like

285
00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,840
Speaker 1: I think they're bringing the team to Atlanta. It's it's big,

286
00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,520
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, it's big stuff. I think Jerry Jones

287
00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,680
Speaker 1: bought a team, like the Cowboys have a team they

288
00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,359
Speaker 1: sponsor one. Well, Robert Craft bought the Boston team. Okay,

289
00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,560
Speaker 1: it's no, it's huge. Yeah, Like there's people people who

290
00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,160
Speaker 1: play for these teams like a household names in other countries.

291
00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,760
Speaker 1: So it sounds like you're kind of thinking about second

292
00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,120
Speaker 1: career maybe I couldn't never lived that life never. I

293
00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,520
Speaker 1: couldn't sit in front of the screen that long, like

294
00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,800
Speaker 1: as a job, because once it becomes a job, you know,

295
00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:17,320
Speaker 1: it might it might take the you know. Okay, I

296
00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,600
Speaker 1: heard you like to travel. Yeah, five five top cities

297
00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,960
Speaker 1: you ever been to? What's your favorite place you've ever

298
00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,160
Speaker 1: been to? I know you love London. I know you

299
00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,880
Speaker 1: love the restaurants. Restaurants big. I'm a big restaurant guy.

300
00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah too. Probably not is probably as big as you

301
00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,960
Speaker 1: because I haven't been to as main places. I love

302
00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,040
Speaker 1: my food. Yeah, man, I think that you can class

303
00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,520
Speaker 1: the city by the restaurants. Okay, I think you can

304
00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,320
Speaker 1: rate cities by restaurants, all right, so that in mind

305
00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:53,240
Speaker 1: rate your cities. It's tough to say different I take

306
00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,280
Speaker 1: so I take trips based on maybe something I would

307
00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,720
Speaker 1: like to see, Like this past offseason, I went to

308
00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,880
Speaker 1: so in Norway, Oh wow, because I wanted to see

309
00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,119
Speaker 1: the Northern Lights as I wanted to go see the

310
00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,480
Speaker 1: Northern Lights, and I wanted my girlfriend to see it too.

311
00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,240
Speaker 1: I had already seen it in Iceland, Green blue, crazy, right,

312
00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,840
Speaker 1: And it's something that you would never see unless you live,

313
00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, north of the you know, um, north of

314
00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,040
Speaker 1: the what's it called. I forget what the score in

315
00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,680
Speaker 1: the I don't know. Yeah, I just know. Yeah, when

316
00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,800
Speaker 1: you live the Arctic Circle, I said, when north of

317
00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,680
Speaker 1: the Arctic Circle, then you can see them in the sky.

318
00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,400
Speaker 1: And I just think that's a cool thing to see,

319
00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, in a lifetime, I've seen videos and pictures.

320
00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,080
Speaker 1: Is it as cool as it looks? Oh yeah, I'd

321
00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,879
Speaker 1: say cooler because it's just something that you would never

322
00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's weird because you never see

323
00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,320
Speaker 1: it in your regular life. So now you know, you

324
00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,199
Speaker 1: go up somewhere and it just feels so what you

325
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,280
Speaker 1: eat up there? Reindeer? Okay, um, did you tell kayl

326
00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,760
Speaker 1: McGary you were up there? N he loves vikings really,

327
00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's a big Viking call actually this Nordic. Yeah,

328
00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,359
Speaker 1: it's a very very big culture of that. We learned

329
00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,240
Speaker 1: all about the history of it and we went dog sledding.

330
00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,159
Speaker 1: Do you ever watch that show of Vikings on History Channel? No?

331
00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,600
Speaker 1: I haven't watched them. My girlfriend watched that. She's crazy

332
00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,240
Speaker 1: about it. I know, I'm seen it. You gotta watch it. Yeah,

333
00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:20,960
Speaker 1: something intense. Yeah, that's the Raindeer. Okay, yeah, Raindeer. I

334
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,000
Speaker 1: know you're like Indian food, right, Yeah, I can do food.

335
00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,679
Speaker 1: I mean, growing up in London, you have to like

336
00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,480
Speaker 1: Indian food. Man. Ever in the States they don't really.

337
00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,400
Speaker 1: So when you think of London, you think of fish

338
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,000
Speaker 1: and chips. Yeah, but you like something called salavoy and

339
00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,760
Speaker 1: chips is this? Yeah? So what is that taste that's like?

340
00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,560
Speaker 1: Is that like sausage? It's like a yeah, it's like

341
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,520
Speaker 1: a sausage. But it's almost like what they called them sausage,

342
00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:51,240
Speaker 1: like Italians almost, it's like red sausage kind oil. Okay,

343
00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,639
Speaker 1: but it's hard to explain it, man, It's just like

344
00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,840
Speaker 1: so it's like Italian sage. What about Atlanta? What's what's what?

345
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,359
Speaker 1: What's the food scene like here? In your mind? Atlanta

346
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,320
Speaker 1: is good your opinion, I think Atlanta has a very

347
00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,160
Speaker 1: good FID scene. Actually, um, you know, it's a lot

348
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,280
Speaker 1: of the places here tucked away, like the small places

349
00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,840
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't give me one gem, give me one gem,

350
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 1: one gym. There's one place called eight Arm eight Arm, Yeah, okay,

351
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,119
Speaker 1: where's that? It's opposite punt City Market Okay on road. Okay,

352
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,920
Speaker 1: what's what's the best thing in there? It's open until

353
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 1: two am. They change up that menu a lot eight

354
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 1: arm Yeah all right, good, noted. And there's another one too.

355
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,960
Speaker 1: I got a number one just because I'm friends with

356
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 1: the owner. It's called a story called Fresco. Okay, bucket.

357
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,639
Speaker 1: It's an Italian restaurant. Good, Yeah, it's really good. Okay,

358
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta wrap this up. I know you

359
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,199
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here, but we can't get out

360
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 1: of here without talking a little Falcons football. Ye. All right,

361
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,639
Speaker 1: So you've played in Oakland, Dallas, and now Atlanta. This

362
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,600
Speaker 1: is as long as you've been somewhere, right, I think

363
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 1: you're in Dallas three years? Yes, yeah, about the same.

364
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: All right, Um, what was what's what's been your personal

365
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 1: high and your personal loan in your career so far?

366
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 1: In my whole career. Yeah, um, it's been the best

367
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 1: moment in the lowest moment for you. Man. That's tough. Man.

368
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, my hadn't been tough because

369
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 1: you were playing so well in the preseason and the

370
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 1: Bills game, right, Yeah, that was tough. That was tough. Um,

371
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 1: it was tough, but it was Week four, you know,

372
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 1: and it was weed. I told my biceps a season

373
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 1: ending injury, and so tearing it a bicep, you know,

374
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: it sucks, But I looked at it like it was

375
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: better to happen early than happening late in the season

376
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be fully recovered for the next season, right,

377
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, So that's that's a good way to look

378
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,439
Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, it was tough for sure, but you know,

379
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 1: it's part of the game. I think that's what's been

380
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 1: the best moment of your career so far. In the

381
00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 1: best moment can be, a play, can be, season, can

382
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 1: be anything. I would say, uh, do you know what,

383
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: Probably my interception against the Panthers last year. Okay, yeah,

384
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 1: because like it was one of the moments where you

385
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 1: don't there's no thinking, You kind of just black out

386
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: and you guys don't get many ops to we don't

387
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: get your hands on the ball, right, so we don't

388
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: get too many opportunities of defensive linement. That's pretty cool.

389
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, to have the ball on my hands, you know,

390
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: and it was you know, it was in the red

391
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: zone too, so it was we're thinking six. Yeah, saved

392
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: the touchdown, save the save points. So it was a

393
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: big play for me, and yeah, it was just where

394
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: it's crazy. How no, that's awesome momentum. How good is

395
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: this team? A very good I think just the best

396
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: team you ever been on. Talent wise, Yeah, talent wise

397
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: it is. You know there the sky's the limit. Um,

398
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: there's so many different weapons. And I think we're continuing

399
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 1: to get better. I think that you know, any you

400
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 1: know kinks that we had, we're working them out. And

401
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: I think everybody and the team on the offense and

402
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: the defense and continue to get better. And you know,

403
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: we get along well, and we we welcome competition, you know,

404
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 1: amongst the groups. So I think that we're heading in

405
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 1: the right direction. Huge physical fistfight the other night Philadelphia. Man, Yeah,

406
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is no joke. They're big upfront. So that was

407
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: as physical game as I've seen. Yeah, that was tough.

408
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: That was a rough one in the trenches. That was

409
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: the real definition of being in the trenches. I saw

410
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: one shot of you. You were just like hearing the oxygen. Yeah,

411
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: everyone keeps telling me about that. I haven't watched it yet.

412
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: Like they always get me in the most vulnerable position

413
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: possible on the cameras, Like I always at the oxygen,

414
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: especially when we have the roof open, when ninety degrees out,

415
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: it makes a difference. Yeah, it's definitely like a Swauner

416
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 1: in that. So I was just I was on the

417
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: oxygen machine before the game started. All right, So let's

418
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: let's end it right here. Let's fill in the blank.

419
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: The Falcons season will only be a success if we

420
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: go all away, go all the way. Yeah, this team,

421
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: get this team, This team can do it right. Oh yeah, yeah,

422
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: we got all the weapons to do it. We just

423
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: gotta go ahead and just execute. Now, big one this week, Indianapolis,

424
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: he said. Stuff. Now, all right, this is Jack Crawford

425
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: from the Atlanta Falcons. You're listening to Bird Noises podcast.

426
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: Joining us now is Will mcdenn. Will you just filled

427
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: the Jack Crawford seat there, pretty pretty big seat to fill. Um,

428
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: definitely is. So you were listening to the interview. Jack

429
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 1: is a fascinating guy. That's part of the reason why

430
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to get him out on the first one

431
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: of these these podcasts. This is not about football, it's

432
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: about just, you know, life off the field. To get

433
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: to know these guys and what an interesting cat he is. Yeah,

434
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: he's he's low key but I'm very thoughtful. I mean,

435
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 1: I think he's a really fun guy to talk to

436
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: among all of you. He gives great answers. He's really insightful.

437
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: You can tell that he thinks a lot about you know,

438
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: the question that you're asking and yeah, and loves to

439
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: give a good answer to it. Yeah. I think that's

440
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: why I wanted to like kind of dig into his background,

441
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: because I feel like he's the kind of guy that

442
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: if you do a little research on him, it would

443
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: kind of open him up. But also he'd appreciate that.

444
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: For sure. He's the kind of guy I think that

445
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: appreciates people doing their homework on him, So I definitely

446
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: wanted to do that. But I also know that he's

447
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: got kind of a dry, fun sense of humor. What

448
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: was the most interesting thing you thought he talked about.

449
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: I love the fact that he's an Overwatch guy. Yeah,

450
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: because every it seems like nowadays, everybody's all Fortnite, and

451
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: so for him to be sticking with like the og

452
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: Overwatch game about I was pretty interesting. I know you're

453
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: a big British version of the Office. Yeah. I keep

454
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: telling you he's an absurd take. I mean, I can't

455
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: get into it. Ricky Gervaig is not my sense of humor,

456
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: much more of a Steve Carl kind of guy. I've

457
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: got it on DVD if I can bring it in

458
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: the office. If you all like twelve episodes that they

459
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: ever created, that's a thing that's very long. Overseas is

460
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: like they don't go for long stretches. I just finished

461
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: watching Fleabag, really really funny show. There's only like twelve episodes. Yeah,

462
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: it's tough. My big show right now. Shit's Creek and

463
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: you I know that you did. I watched that. Yeah,

464
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: I know you like that one too. Final thought on

465
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: just Jack, I know he's he is the football player.

466
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: He is such a key guy for this defense and

467
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't get a lot of the headlines. But he

468
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: had a very good year last year statistically. It was

469
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: a big loss when they lost him. We were just

470
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: talking about that with him when he went down with

471
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: the torn bice up this year, he is an important

472
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: cod just talk a little bit about you know, we

473
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: saw Sunday night against Philadelphia. So the thing that really

474
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: separates contenders from you know, just average and below average

475
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL is that depth. It's not just

476
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: having good players like Julio Jones or Matt Ryan because

477
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: most NFL teams and Dan Quinn talks about this lot

478
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: have one or two or three star players. Yeah, but

479
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: it's the fourth fifth guys on a depth chart. And

480
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: to have a defensive line as deep as the Falcons do.

481
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: You and I talked about it on our podcast the

482
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: end around heading into the season. This is such a

483
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: deep unit. And when you've got guys like Jack Crawford

484
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: coming off the bench, who tied for second most on

485
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: the team in sacks last year with Grady Jarrett. I mean,

486
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: Jack Crawford had the same number of sax's Grady Jaret

487
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: last night. That does not get talked about enough. No,

488
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: I know, he's such a good interior pass rusher. So

489
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: when you're able to sub out a guy like Tyler Davison,

490
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: who's a great run defender. We've seen his impact, and

491
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: you bring in Jack Crawford to put him next to

492
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: Grady Jarrett, and all of a sudden, now on the

493
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: outside you've got Tach McKinley and Vic Beasley. Those are

494
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: four really good pass rushers that will laps the pocket,

495
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: as they did on Sunday against Carson Wentz. So yeah,

496
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: guys like Jack Crawford are usually the reasons why teams

497
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs and why they advanced in the playoffs.

498
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: Interesting what he said about Penn State too, and in

499
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: playing for Joe Paterno. I didn't realize that Paterno was

500
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: his coach. What a great coach to play for? Yeah

501
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: all the time. Um, just just an interesting dude and

502
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: just I mean, he just all kinds of sports and

503
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: he loves to travel. Great. Great first first guest for

504
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: Burt Noises. Ye, it was awesome. His his voice just

505
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: soothing British voice. Yeah, you know, I was kind of

506
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: hoping it would be kind of I didn't know where's

507
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: going to go. But he was the perfect guest to

508
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: open this thing up with because it's again it's about football,

509
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: but mostly everything else. So guy needs to narrate audiobooks

510
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: and he did a little reading for us, So now

511
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: we can we can we can open with the with Jack.

512
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, man, Uh, thanks for joining me.

513
00:27:54,240 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: And that's a rap