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Speaker 1: Hello America, Happy Friday. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: Justin News, No Noise. I'm your host, John Solomon, as always,

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Speaker 1: hosting here in Washington, d C. And tonight we're going

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Speaker 1: to do something a little different. We're going to jump

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Speaker 1: off that breaking news train that we've been on for

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Speaker 1: the last month. Chronically, it has been so much big news,

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Speaker 1: and I want to go back to a deep dive

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Speaker 1: that we started a month ago, the issue of agrotrism.

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Speaker 2: We are closer to.

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Speaker 1: An enemy induced famine than most Americans realized. The Trump

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Speaker 1: Administration realized. Since our last special. At the end of June,

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Speaker 1: the Trump Administration rolled out one of the most extraordinary

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Speaker 1: agrotrism in food security plan and the country has ever seen.

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Speaker 2: It's ay start.

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Speaker 1: It's a down payment on a much larger investment that

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Speaker 1: we're going to have to make to make sure.

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Speaker 2: That our food supplier, water supply.

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Speaker 1: Is protected from enemies like China. But we got a

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Speaker 1: good start, and some of the issues that we brought

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Speaker 1: to light last month when we had that whistle blowing

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Speaker 1: Chinese doctor and others on the show, they're getting addressed now.

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Speaker 1: And I feel really lucky about that. Tonight I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be rejoined by a guy. Every time my work

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Speaker 1: with them, good things happen. He is another great host

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Speaker 1: on This Real America's Voice network. He has a three

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Speaker 1: o'clock show. I'm lucky to sometimes be on there. Steve

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Speaker 1: Goober's joining us tonight. Steve, so much happened in the

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Speaker 1: last three weeks since we did a special, real action

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Speaker 1: concrete things. I don't think we could have expected that

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Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned something off the top of all those

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Speaker 3: breaking news for a month or two or three, and

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Speaker 3: you lose track of other very important issues, this being

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Speaker 3: one of them, of course, agricultural terrorism and China with

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Speaker 3: its fingers deep into universities across this country, into the

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Speaker 3: National Institute's Fort of Health, a lot of concerns out there,

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Speaker 3: and as you mentioned, John, a lot of it addressing

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Speaker 3: the big beautiful bill. Because look, if America's agricultural and

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Speaker 3: a pathogen like we saw happened at Michigan when University

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Speaker 3: of Michigan students were bringing in fungus, it could damage our.

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Speaker 4: Corn, our wheat, our beans.

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Speaker 3: Well, the ramifications could be global because some of the

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Speaker 3: first people that would pay the price if we had

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Speaker 3: a failed crop in America. It wouldn't necessarily be America

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Speaker 3: that pays the price first. It could be sub Saharan Africa.

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Speaker 3: They rely heavily on the exports of wheat and other

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Speaker 3: grains that we put out of America. So protecting the

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Speaker 3: American food supply is not just an American issue, It's

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Speaker 3: a global issue.

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we are the bread basket for so much of

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Speaker 1: the rest of the world, not only our own people

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Speaker 1: were a gracious farming industry here. I think now we

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Speaker 1: see the outlines of where the Trump administration is going

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Speaker 1: enemies by land. They're cracking down on foreign scientists coming

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Speaker 1: a lot more to be done. Congress will be an

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Speaker 1: important part of codifying this long term. What are the

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Speaker 3: Well, interestingly enough, they are Secretary of Homeland Security Christi Nomhen,

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Speaker 3: she was still governor of South Dakota who was one

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Speaker 3: not in near military bases or other sensitive facilities. She

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Speaker 3: has one of the first step up Governor Rhonda Santa's

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Speaker 3: Why does China own all this land in America?

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Speaker 4: Why do they have.

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Speaker 3: Access to all these different places? Plus the scientists at

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Speaker 3: National in Students of Health, the students that are working

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Speaker 3: taking that information back to China. These are all areas

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Speaker 3: Bill put us on the right path.

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Speaker 1: It sure did, And we're lucky to kick off tonight's

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Speaker 1: today presides over it all.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now the Cabinet secretary who quarterback that historic

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Speaker 1: counter offensive against agretarism threats in America, the United States

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Speaker 1: Secretary of Agriculture, Bro Crawlins, Madam Secretary.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 5: Good morning, Great to be here with you guys. Thanks

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Speaker 5: so much.

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Speaker 1: It's a great honor to have you on. This is

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Speaker 1: an extraordinary plan that you and the other cabinet secretaries

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Speaker 1: put together. How serious was the threat when you get

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Speaker 1: in office, What did you learn about the agretarism threat?

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Speaker 2: And how much did it surprise you?

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Speaker 5: Well, there were a lot of things that were pretty surprising. John.

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Speaker 6: The first thing was how just overall, how a lot

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Speaker 6: of people, most people didn't really consider that farm security

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Speaker 6: and food security is paramount to national security.

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Speaker 5: I was sort of a little stunned.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you've kind of seen the narrative,

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Speaker 5: To talk about John on this show.

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Speaker 6: Was the China, you know, buying up all of our

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Speaker 5: And so President Trump had raised the alarm.

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Speaker 6: On that, but no one had really thought about it

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Speaker 5: And so when I started.

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Speaker 6: Digging in, and you know, we had some agro some

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Speaker 5: Land, et cetera.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it was sort of one thing after another,

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Speaker 6: it all came from. Started talking to Attorney General BONDI,

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Speaker 6: I'm talking to Christy nome So I said, would you

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Speaker 6: we all work so closely together. And all of them said, Brooke,

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Speaker 5: So that's kind of how it started.

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Speaker 6: Then thinking about and John, you know, we've worked together

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Speaker 5: That they need.

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Speaker 6: So then they came in as really important partners in

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Speaker 4: Extraordinary, Madam Secretary. Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, the Chinese students have infiltrated American universities across the country.

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Speaker 3: And when you hear about the University of Michigan having

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Speaker 3: students trying to sneak in a different pathogens fungus in

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Speaker 3: this case, it could potentially destroy half the corn crop,

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Speaker 4: How do you do that?

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Speaker 6: Well, there is no doubt and really we're just peeling

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Speaker 6: And let me be clear, other than what we found

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Speaker 5: I think that's what the people.

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Speaker 6: Of America voted on on November fifth of last year

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Speaker 5: So we're on it.

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Speaker 6: We've been canceling contracts, firing people, ensuring that we have

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite parts of the press conference that

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Speaker 1: educating the American public that farms are increasingly at risk

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Speaker 1: of cybersecurity attacks. We kneel the Dole plant that got

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Speaker 2: To cyber hackers.

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Speaker 1: How big is a threat and tell us about the

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Speaker 6: Well, the cybersecurity threats are real, and we certainly know that.

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Speaker 6: I think we all probably have our own stories, you

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Speaker 6: First Policy, certainly faced it. Now as a Cabinet secretary,

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Speaker 5: I have had some personal things.

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Speaker 6: Happen as well. I mean, I think it's it's certainly

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Speaker 6: it's affected every American. But when you think about for

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Speaker 6: as we should, more automation, more AI understanding. You know

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Speaker 6: that the technology is incredible Silicon Valley and a lot

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Speaker 5: But to your point, that opens up a whole.

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Speaker 6: New level of potential attacks from the bad guy. So

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Speaker 6: we have put in place again more with Christy Nome

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Speaker 6: and Department of Home and Security, She's got a great

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Speaker 6: And listen, the research by our land great universities is

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Speaker 5: But the President has talked on.

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Speaker 5: These are real threats and I think.

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Speaker 1: Before we let you go, you've talked a lot about

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Speaker 1: And then these big deals Japan you mentioned in Indonesia,

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Speaker 6: I think that we truly are moving toward a golden

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Speaker 5: And I'll never forget John.

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Speaker 6: I mean, these are real challenges. These farmers are having

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Speaker 5: But the big beautiful.

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Speaker 6: Bill, I'm so happy John that you brought that up.

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Speaker 6: And again talking about national security, ensuring that they have

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Speaker 5: It's the inheritance tax, the.

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Speaker 5: All of that one hundred.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it is one win after another, and that's thanks.

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Speaker 6: But honestly, it's President Trump, his heart, his focus, his

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Speaker 1: I was at a farmer's market and the farmers said

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Speaker 2: You've been the quarterback of that.

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Speaker 1: It's a great honor in the show today.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, John, Thank you.

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Speaker 6: That's the greatest blessing to hear that. So thank you

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Speaker 6: so much, and you'll do such great work. I'd love

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Speaker 1: Let's do a great honor to have you all day, Rollins,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us today. Folks, Steve and

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Speaker 3: Her and welcome back to this special edition of Justin News,

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Speaker 3: No Noise.

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Speaker 4: I'm Steve you.

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Speaker 3: We're co hosting tonight with Just the News editor in

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Speaker 3: chief John Solomon. This is part two of our deep

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Speaker 3: We know the Trump administration and saying a close look

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Speaker 4: We have to focus on what's happening with China.

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Speaker 3: We see these students coming in with pathogens to the

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Speaker 4: It's a huge concern.

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Speaker 3: What is being done about it at the White House?

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Speaker 8: Well, we can actually tell you that we understood this

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Speaker 2: Seriously eight years ago.

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Speaker 8: If you go back in time to the first Trump

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Speaker 8: this isn't just terrorism. This is espionage coming out of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so important, and I know the AC Secretary

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Speaker 1: Brook Rawllance has done a lot. I want to turn

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Speaker 8: Sorry, sorry, I got to say, John, God bless you

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Speaker 8: for mentioning her because she is of this team, very

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Speaker 1: So good for you. Now that's a great team, and

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Speaker 1: I want to turn to something that happened. So there's

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Speaker 8: So let me answer it for you in a very

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 8: You know, I'm a conaterrorism guy and I've spent a

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Speaker 2: However, and I'm going to.

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Speaker 8: Say this on your show, even as a CT guy

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Speaker 8: you're reading the President's daily briefing, you understand instantly that.

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Speaker 2: We will deal with all the terrorists.

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Speaker 8: We will deal with Russia, with Iran, with a little

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Speaker 8: and that is communist China.

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Speaker 2: Period. End of story.

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Speaker 8: And if you want to know the threat, you don't

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Speaker 8: the book by two former senior PLA Colonels, Unrestricted Warfare.

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Speaker 8: You look at what the One Belt, One Road initiative

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Speaker 8: You don't need bombs and bullets to be at war

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Speaker 8: with America. You can do it with espionage, with inflevemation, warfare,

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Speaker 8: with economic warfare. Why is the president so driven when

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Speaker 8: it comes to rare earth minerals? Because China is trying

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Speaker 8: to scoop them up everywhere and make it impossible for

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Speaker 8: us to maintain our security, whether it's from operating your

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Speaker 8: tablet at home or the incredible weapons we recently used

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Speaker 8: in Operation Midnight Hammer.

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Speaker 2: All of those require rare earth.

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Speaker 8: Minerals, and we don't want them in the hands of

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Speaker 8: a communist dictatorship.

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Speaker 2: So well, said.

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Speaker 3: Doctor One of the things that is clear and has

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Speaker 3: been in the front of our front headlines recently, is

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Speaker 3: the ownership of farmland in America.

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Speaker 4: And it's not just farmland.

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Speaker 3: It's farmland that is strategically located in your military bases

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Speaker 3: and elsewhere. It is of great concern of many people.

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Speaker 3: Some states have now outlawed China owning farmland in America.

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Speaker 3: Is a time for the federal government to make that

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Speaker 3: same move to make sure that Chinese nationals don't have

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Speaker 3: access to our farm fields of corn, wheat, writes whatever

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Speaker 3: may be an easy access to the heartland of America,

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Speaker 3: should we stop this.

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Speaker 8: Food security is national security, and let's be very clear,

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Speaker 8: this isn't just about land that is being used to

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Speaker 8: grow crops to feed Americans. It's about suspicious purchases of

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Speaker 8: huge tracts of land close to sensitive sites, whether it's

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Speaker 8: military sites, whether it signals intelligence sites, whether it's nuclear

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Speaker 8: power stations. These are all national security issues. And remember,

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Speaker 8: we don't have to go back very far in time.

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Speaker 8: When a certain man in the building behind me called

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Speaker 8: Joe Biden, the alleged president allowed a Chinese surveillance balloon

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Speaker 8: to traverse the whole of the United States, including over

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Speaker 8: very sensitive sites. That is a national security threat. So

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Speaker 8: you're absolutely right. We take this super seriously. And the

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Speaker 8: real president right now understands the threat from China, whether

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Speaker 8: it's economic, agriculture, espionage, or anything else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and in the last few months, you guys have

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Speaker 1: taken the most sweeping actions of any president, any administration

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Speaker 1: in history to start to address this. Now, executive orders

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Speaker 1: and executive actions can always be reversed by someone who

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the vigilance of this administration. What can Congress

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Speaker 1: do to codify and make sure that future administrations can't

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Speaker 1: drop the ball look the other way, turn a blind

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Speaker 1: eye and put us at risk. For instance, should farmland

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Speaker 1: purchases by foreign countries maybe be part of the Scifius

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Speaker 1: review process?

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Speaker 8: I love that, you know, I absolutely think that's a

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Speaker 8: great idea. I don't know if you've been taking calls

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Speaker 8: from President Trump.

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Speaker 2: I know he's very fond of you, John.

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Speaker 8: I don't see why not Sithius doesn't fall onto my

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Speaker 8: mandate seeing director of Acanetarism. But these are national security issues,

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Speaker 8: from the grid to food security, all of them. So

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Speaker 8: even if you haven't whispered in the presidents here, I

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Speaker 8: may take that idea to him personally with your.

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Speaker 1: Permission, by all means, Yeah, thank you, doctor.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you about this because here's something else

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Speaker 3: that comes up frequently where I live in Michigan. It's

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Speaker 3: an agricultural state. And our concern is that these University

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Speaker 3: of Michigan students that are caught a camp grailing, photographing

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Speaker 3: the Taiwanese American military exercises a few months ago, disguising

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Speaker 3: themselves as journalists, and more recently, these Chinese students bringing

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Speaker 3: in these pathogens, these fungus in the United States from China.

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Speaker 4: The concern is that there's no severe penalties.

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Speaker 3: What about the penalties for these Chinese students, and what

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Speaker 3: about anybody on this side, an American that helps them

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Speaker 3: achieve their goals. We believe the penalties might need to

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Speaker 3: be a lot more severe.

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Speaker 8: What say you, Well, look, my immediate boss, Acting Nationally

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Speaker 8: Advisor Secretary Marco Rubio, has recently, in a related issue,

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Speaker 8: made me acting chair of the Federal Counter Drone Task Force,

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Speaker 8: and that's exactly what we're going to do there as well.

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Speaker 8: Far too long, federal government has not taken seriously the

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Speaker 8: threats that these actors, including drone operators, represent, and they

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Speaker 8: often got away with a slap on the wrist or

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Speaker 8: a misdemeanor. We've changed that with the June sixth EO

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Speaker 8: the President's signed. So if you're a malefactor, if you're

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Speaker 8: a malicious actor, whether you're bringing deadly fungi into the

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Speaker 8: United States, stealing samples of our blight resistant agricultural crops,

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Speaker 8: or flying drones close to sensitive sites.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to get away with a.

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Speaker 8: Fine or misdemeanor slap on the wrist. We're going to

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Speaker 8: use the full extent of the low against you because

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Speaker 8: these all national security issues. You cross that line and

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Speaker 8: we will come down on you like the hammers of

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in America.

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Speaker 1: We're going to continue on the special discussion about the

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Speaker 1: threats of aggretarism and all that's being done in the

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Speaker 1: last few months in Washington. I'm joined tonight a special

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Speaker 1: guest as my host, the one and only Steve Guber.

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Speaker 2: And now we're going to be.

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Speaker 1: Joined by a member of the House Agriculture Committee who

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Speaker 1: has really been on the front lines of advocating for

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Speaker 1: farmers and particularly digging down on this issue. We heard

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Speaker 1: from Broke Rollins what the Trump administration did. You're going

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Speaker 1: to be surprised how much Congress has gotten done in

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Speaker 1: the last few weeks on this issue and the farmers

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Speaker 1: and generally joining us now from the great state of

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Speaker 1: North Carolina, one of our favorite guests, Congressman Mark Harris Congresson.

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Speaker 1: Good to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 10: It's great to be with you and with Steve as well,

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Speaker 10: and thank you both for the work you're doing and

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Speaker 10: getting this information out and on.

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Speaker 9: The forefront of what we're trying to do.

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Speaker 2: It's exciting.

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Speaker 1: It's something that has been lingering as a concern for

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Speaker 1: a long time and it probably didn't get the attention needed.

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Speaker 1: Now it's got attention on steroids, which is great. The

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Speaker 1: Big Beautiful Bill did some pretty amazing things for agro

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Speaker 1: terrorism bio safety in the Farm Bill.

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Speaker 2: Because there's so much in it, it might have gotten lost.

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Speaker 1: Tell us what you managed to get in there and

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Speaker 1: what it does for the farmers and the food safety

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Speaker 1: of this country.

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Speaker 9: Well, as you.

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Speaker 10: Know, we recognize that we've got this serious issue that's

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Speaker 10: going on with China that is almost issuing a sort.

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Speaker 9: Of multi front attack on America right under our.

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Speaker 10: Noses, and we recognize that and we recognize that we've

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Speaker 10: got to do something. This administration, as we've said, Brooke Rollins,

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Speaker 10: has been really a champion in leading this and even

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Speaker 10: in that cabinet meeting a few weeks ago, when she

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Speaker 10: was asked about the things that were front and centered

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Speaker 10: on her plate, she held up that map that showed

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Speaker 10: the farm land that Chinese owned across our country and

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Speaker 10: in many of our States, and so that certainly has

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Speaker 10: called a great attention to the problem that we've got.

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Speaker 10: The Congress has sought to respond, and I'm very excited

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Speaker 10: that there were several things that were part of the

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Speaker 10: One Big Beautiful Bill, one of them being the fact

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Speaker 10: that it provides one point five billion dollars over the

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Speaker 10: next decade to livestock biosecurity, and I think this is

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Speaker 10: extremely important to all of our farmers and to the

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Speaker 10: whole food safety issue here in our country. So we're

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Speaker 10: excited about that. We're also excited that the One Big

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Speaker 10: Beautiful Bill invest one hundred and twenty five million dollars

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Speaker 10: per year for the Culture Research Facilities Act, and this

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Speaker 10: is going to help our universities that focus on agriculture

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Speaker 10: to be able to really have the latest and be

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Speaker 10: able to lead the world when it comes to security,

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Speaker 10: when it comes to innovation. There, we're going to be

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Speaker 10: there leading at the forefront. And so Congress wants to respond.

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Speaker 10: We want to get the right things where they need

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Speaker 10: to be for our agriculture industry in this country and

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Speaker 10: for our farmers.

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Speaker 9: And this is leading edge stuff.

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Speaker 3: Huge sure is of agricultural land in America because it's

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Speaker 3: not just agricultural land.

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Speaker 4: It is a concern.

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Speaker 3: It's where they buy it in close proximity to military bases.

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Speaker 3: I've seen a couple of states South Dakota and Florida

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Speaker 3: come to mind, where they have basically outlawed the idea

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Speaker 3: that China and Chinese citizens can own land. Why can

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Speaker 3: we not do that at the federal level? Or can

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Speaker 3: we do that? Can we get legislation pass by part

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Speaker 3: of the legislation to ban the ownership maybe not just

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Speaker 3: of China, but of other foreign countries. We can't go

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Speaker 3: to China and by land. I can't go to Mexico

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Speaker 3: and by land. Why do we allow that here?

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Speaker 9: Well, I agree with you, Steve.

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Speaker 10: I think there's something we've got to take a long,

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Speaker 10: hard look at and look at outlawing it. To your point,

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Speaker 10: my home state of North Carolina has been looking at

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Speaker 10: this issue. They've actually had to build introduce that says

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Speaker 10: that within if you're within seventy five miles of a

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Speaker 10: military base in North Carolina, you cannot China cannot own.

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Speaker 9: Land around that base. I think that's.

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Speaker 10: Important not only for China, but for any of our adversaries.

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Speaker 10: Cannot be able to own the land and to your point,

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Speaker 10: and I think this president understands it with his whole

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Speaker 10: reciprocal pieces and his trade agreements.

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Speaker 9: We can't go over to China and buy land, so why.

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Speaker 10: In the world should they be allowed to come in

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Speaker 10: here and purchase it as well?

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Speaker 9: So you raise a great point.

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Speaker 10: I think there are issues that we've got to begin

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Speaker 10: to look at and take action on because this is

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Speaker 10: important for our security.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that we've highlighted over the last

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Speaker 1: few months, Congressman here at justin News in Real America's

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Speaker 1: voice is the large number of scientists that came from

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Speaker 1: countries of concern, predominantly China but also Iran that we're

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Speaker 1: getting embedded in the NIH and the USDA. Since we

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Speaker 1: started that reporting, NIH has looked at over a thousand

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Speaker 1: scientists and they're doing extreme vetting and they're going to

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Speaker 1: start to pull the visas Brooke Rollins announced on the

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Speaker 1: top of the show, she's already pulled the visas for

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Speaker 1: seventy such contractors and scientists there are USDA. Is it

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Speaker 1: something that Congress may need to put tighter roles on

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Speaker 1: the NIH and these scientific organizations to make sure they

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Speaker 1: don't let enemies, enemy scientists come into our country.

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Speaker 10: Oh, I think that would be a very wise move.

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Speaker 10: And I think, frankly, when we continue to look at

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Speaker 10: this whole immigration issue, there are more and more things

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Speaker 10: just like that that we've got to be pinpointing and

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Speaker 10: taking the necessary steps and looking at it. There's so

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Speaker 10: many different ways with legal immigration to come into this country,

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Speaker 10: but we've got to be very careful with who is

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Speaker 10: coming into our border. We saw that with the whole

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Speaker 10: bioterrorism issue just recently with the folks coming in in

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Speaker 10: Michigan with the fungus that they were going to bring

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Speaker 10: in and how dangerous that was going to be to

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Speaker 10: the agriculture industry.

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Speaker 9: And there's certainly some history to that from.

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Speaker 10: Nineteen eighty four when there was an international salmonella contamination

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Speaker 10: just a religious group there in the Dulles, Oregon that

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Speaker 10: affected over one hundred and seventy seven hundred and fifty people.

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Speaker 10: So I think when you see some of the things

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Speaker 10: that have happened historically, it's something that we've got to

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Speaker 10: keep in mind and be far more careful in who

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Speaker 10: we're allowing into this country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we need to be leary of those

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Speaker 4: college kids.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that.

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Speaker 4: I live in Michigan, so it hits close to home.

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Speaker 3: I do want to ask you about something else so

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Speaker 3: that I think is important when it comes to the

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Speaker 3: food supply in America. That's the Chinese ownership of Smithfield,

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Speaker 3: for example, one of the biggest packing plants in America.

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Speaker 3: China today in America owns something like twenty five or

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Speaker 3: thirty percent of all the hogs alive in America. They

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Speaker 3: are actually Chinese owned because they're owned by Smithfield. So

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Speaker 3: by extension you have that, you also have Syngenta, one

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Speaker 3: of the biggest seed producers in the world, owned by

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Speaker 3: the Chinese. I see that would be a considerable risk

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Speaker 3: worthy of consideration as well. What would you say, Well,

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 10: It certainly is something we consider. Now we have Smithfield

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Speaker 10: here in North Carolina. I've got the opportunity to go

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Speaker 10: and tour their packing plant there and see what has

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Speaker 10: done a number of jobs there in eastern North Carolina.

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Speaker 10: But you certainly raised a great point, because we just

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Speaker 10: went through a theme just a few years ago where

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Speaker 10: the whole home farm situation was being turned upside down

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Speaker 10: here in North Carolina by big turning firms that were.

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Speaker 9: Coming in and creating habit.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, I think ownership of those companies that are

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Speaker 10: part of our food supply is.

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Speaker 9: Something that certainly is game.

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Speaker 10: And needs to be on the table, and we need

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Speaker 10: to be having those conversations, Sarah.

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Speaker 1: One of the ways that our farms can be made

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Speaker 1: more resilient against this competition and sometimes very serious aggoctarism,

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Speaker 1: just making the farm economy more resilient. You did that

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Speaker 1: a lot with the big beautiful bill. There are just

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Speaker 1: so many provisions in there, including a change in the

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Speaker 1: inheritance tax that keeps farms in families for a long time.

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Speaker 1: But the next big one coming up is going to

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Speaker 1: be the Farm build tell us how important it is

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Speaker 1: and what sort of momentum you may have to achieve

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Speaker 1: some more stuff in that bill.

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Speaker 9: Well, John Dan, You're exactly right.

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Speaker 10: The Farm Bill is something that really should have been

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Speaker 10: approved back in twenty twenty four. Congress was unable to

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Speaker 10: get it passed, and so here we are facing it

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Speaker 10: once again.

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Speaker 9: The Chairman of Thericulture Committee, G. G.

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Speaker 10: Thompson, has done a really good job, I think in

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Speaker 10: strategically planning how we are moving the Farm Bill forward.

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Speaker 9: As part of the Big Beautiful.

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Speaker 10: Bill, while we had that opportunity in front of us

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Speaker 10: to do reconciliation, we took care of a large part.

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Speaker 9: Of the Farm bill, not only dealing with snap.

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Speaker 10: Which oftentimes becomes a real sticking point when we're trying

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Speaker 10: to do the things we need to do for our

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Speaker 10: farms across this country. And by taking care of that

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Speaker 10: and the One Big Beautiful Bill and reconciliation, we now

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Speaker 10: are facing things that I think really do have momentum,

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Speaker 10: really should have by partisan support so that we can

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Speaker 10: make sure that we get what Chairman is calling kind

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Speaker 10: of the skinny farm Bill or a two point zero

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Speaker 10: pasted later this year. So I'm confident that we're going

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Speaker 10: to be able to get there. We've been working hard

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Speaker 10: over these last couple of weeks, we've been having hearings

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Speaker 10: and getting ready for that, so I feel like there's

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Speaker 10: a lot of momentum and looking forward hopefully to seeing

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Speaker 10: that get over the finish line. For all of our farmers,

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Speaker 10: they need to know that we're there, we need to

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Speaker 10: know that the support is there. But again, as part

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Speaker 10: of the One Big Beautiful Bill, we took a big

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Speaker 10: chunk or a down payment if you will on finishing

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Speaker 10: the farm Bill before the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: It's us of getting things done, perhaps some of the

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Speaker 1: most improvements in over a generation of American farm policy,

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Speaker 1: some pretty big stuff. Congressman, As always, we love having

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Speaker 1: you on the show. Thanks for giving us such an

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Speaker 1: important update. All right, folks, we think cook of us

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Speaker 1: for break. We got another good one right around the corner.

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Speaker 2: One of the best kind of expertsist countries ever, pretty

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Speaker 2: Scord Chank will join us, So Delvinkimore.

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Speaker 1: About what time has plans to replace the US as

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Speaker 1: the world global food superpower.

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Speaker 2: All right, so I'll tell you what they really plan

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Speaker 2: to do with us. That's next after he's.

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Speaker 4: Messages and welcome back everyone. Of the special editions of

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Speaker 4: Justin is no Noise. I'm Steve.

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Speaker 3: You're co hosing with my good friend John Solomon. Tonight

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Speaker 3: we are doing part two into our deep dive around

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Speaker 3: agricultural terrorism and the concerns that.

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Speaker 4: They pose for us. If we've already discussed, we.

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Speaker 3: Know China is beyond a lot of the plots around

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Speaker 3: hurting American agriculture, and we know why because it hurts

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Speaker 3: America's food supply. What better way to make your adversary

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Speaker 3: weaker than by making them hard to find food. It's

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Speaker 3: a terrifying concern that could become a reality. Another terrifying

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Speaker 3: reality is what would happen for the rest of the

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Speaker 3: world if there was famine in America. Jumping out to

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Speaker 3: discuss this is China expert and the author of Plan Red,

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Speaker 3: China's project to destroy America, Gordon g.

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Speaker 4: Chang.

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Speaker 3: You can find him on exit Gordon g Chang. Gordon,

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Speaker 3: nice to see you again. Thank you for spending time

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Speaker 3: with us here tonight. Let's jump right into this if

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Speaker 3: America had a famine, because we've seen the Chinese and

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Speaker 3: their tentacles reach into the agricultural sector and one of

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Speaker 3: their objectives.

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Speaker 4: Would be to damage American agriculture.

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Speaker 3: If that happened, if we lost thirty percent of our crop,

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Speaker 3: half our crop, what would it mean not just for us,

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Speaker 3: but for the rest of the world.

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Speaker 11: This would be a shock that would reverberate everywhere. We

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Speaker 11: have to just look at something which was more, which

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Speaker 11: is small, which was the start of the war in

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Speaker 11: Ukraine that shocked culture around the world for two reasons.

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Speaker 11: First of all, weak prices tripled, and second of all,

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Speaker 11: fertilizer prices increased as well, because Ukraine produces urea, a

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Speaker 11: main component for much of the world's fertilizer. So we

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Speaker 11: saw what happened there, and the United States, which is

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Speaker 11: a much bigger agricultural player, the effect would be so

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Speaker 11: much greater. So we already have an example of what

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Speaker 11: could happen and we can just multiply that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great point, Gordon.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask a little bit about what's happened

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Speaker 1: since the last time we had a conversation about this. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: five Cabinet secretaries got together. They announced a pretty sweeping plan,

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Speaker 1: everything from cybersecurity to farm our land, purchase reviews for foreigners.

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Speaker 1: What's your assessment of that plan, what Trump rolled out

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Speaker 1: and where are the gaps where Congress and the administration

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Speaker 1: still need to fill into more better fortify our food supply.

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Speaker 11: Well, first of all, it's really important for the federal

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Speaker 11: government to realize this is an issue. So the National

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Speaker 11: Farm Security Action Plan that Brooke Rolins announced was really

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Speaker 11: important because it's getting people to think about these things.

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Speaker 9: In terms of the gaps.

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Speaker 11: I believe that no Chinese national should own farm or

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Speaker 11: ranch land in the United States, whether it's near a

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Speaker 11: military facility or not, and there are a lot of

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Speaker 11: reasons for that. So far in the United States hasn't

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Speaker 11: gone that far because we're talking about expropriation of land

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Speaker 11: for sales. But that's something that I think that we

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Speaker 11: absolutely need to do because we know of malign Chinese

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Speaker 11: activities on farm and ranch land, and it doesn't take

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Speaker 11: too much imagination to think what the Chinese could do

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Speaker 11: when they give the ghost signal to their agents, their operatives,

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Speaker 11: and their soldiers and their networks already in this country.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Bardon, let me dive into this part of it,

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Speaker 3: because what we saw that really raised the red flag

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Speaker 3: for a lot of us were University of Michigan students

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Speaker 3: caught with pathogens with fungus in their possession coming back

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Speaker 3: into the United States from China with the idea of

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Speaker 3: exploring what these funguses could do. That's the concern. But

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Speaker 3: my concern goes to cybersecurity. What about all these students,

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Speaker 3: What about all these college students are invested in Chinese

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Speaker 3: agriculture and so forth. How easy are their computers act?

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Speaker 3: We know China will steal intellectual property at will. They

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Speaker 3: don't care, They'll do it, and if they could break

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Speaker 3: into computers that have research in it, that's another weak

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Speaker 3: point in the chain, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it certainly is.

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Speaker 11: And we just saw this with the revelation that Microsoft

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Speaker 11: was using engineers in China to work on Defense Department programs,

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Speaker 11: and those engineers in China were basically unsupervised. They had

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Speaker 11: what's called digital x escorts, but those digital escorts really

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Speaker 11: didn't know what the Chinese engineers were doing in many cases.

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Speaker 11: You know, Microsoft software is used across the United States.

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Speaker 11: Just a couple of days ago, there were hacks on

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Speaker 11: about four hundred networks in our country, and including in

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Speaker 11: the Department of Energy.

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Speaker 2: This is Department of Energy. It's not just oil and

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Speaker 2: gas wells.

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Speaker 9: It's also nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 11: And in fact, the agency inside the Department of Agency

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Speaker 11: responsible for our US was in fact hacked.

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Speaker 2: So clearly, you know, when you.

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Speaker 11: Talk about agriculture, you talk about anything else, the Chinese

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Speaker 11: basically have their run of our networks until we can

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Speaker 11: eliminate these back doors that have been put in because

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Speaker 11: we have been completely oblivious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem. Ignorance has been one of our

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Speaker 1: greatest weaknesses.

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Speaker 2: Gordon.

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Speaker 1: One of the things we talked about earlier in the

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Speaker 1: show with Seb Gorka, the counter Terrorism Director. Is the

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Speaker 1: idea that maybe long term, something like Sciphius being required

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Speaker 1: to review any foreign land transaction, whether it's agriculture or

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Speaker 1: near a military base.

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Speaker 2: Is that a path to take?

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Speaker 1: What are of the ideas to make sure that these

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Speaker 1: land purchases aren't part of a strategic, non kinetic war

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Speaker 1: against us.

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Speaker 11: We know that the Syfius process was broken, and we

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Speaker 11: know that because, for instance, the Chinese food processor food

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Speaker 11: Fung was able to purchase land within twelve miles of

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Speaker 11: Grand Forks Air Force Base, which is important because Grand

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Speaker 11: Forks has satellite uplinks and also links to drones, and

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Speaker 11: Grand Forks was not on a list of sensitive military

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Speaker 11: bases that gave Syphius jurisdiction, so they didn't have any

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Speaker 11: jurisdiction for that really critical purchase. Now that is being remedied,

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Speaker 11: but nonetheless we need blanket rules, Joring g.

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Speaker 3: Chang here with us. The urgency needs to be ramped

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Speaker 3: up here. We need to take those pray seriously, Gordon,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for taking the time.

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Speaker 4: To be here.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, guys.

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Speaker 4: All Right, we'll take a break, We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back in America to the special edition of Justin

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Speaker 1: Who's No Noise. We've been diving deep for a second

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Speaker 1: month now into the very serious issue of aggretarism and

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Speaker 1: food safety. A lot has happened in the month since

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Speaker 1: we began this conversation, and a lot happened on this show.

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Speaker 1: I want to bring in my amazing co host for

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Speaker 1: the night, Steve Gruber, whose idea was to do this collaboration.

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Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for Steve. We heard from the Agriculture Secretary,

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Speaker 1: We got a sense of what Congress was going to do.

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Speaker 1: But I thought some big ideas came out in the conversation.

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Speaker 1: The idea that maybe we teach treat farmland and farm

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Speaker 1: technology like a special asset that has to be reviewed

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Speaker 1: by Siphius, maybe banning outright China's ability to buy farmland.

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Speaker 1: There are some big ideas put on the table tonight there.

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Speaker 3: Certainly we're I'm going to back to seb Gorka the

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Speaker 3: idea and you said it, John, we need to vet

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Speaker 3: these people. We need to vet the students that are

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Speaker 3: coming into the University of Michigan. Obviously at the forefront

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Speaker 3: with those students trying to bring in that fungus and

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Speaker 3: potentially damage the food supply here because it could take

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Speaker 3: out half the corn, wheat, beans, rice. And how devastating

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Speaker 3: would that be, not just here but around the world.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's incredibly important.

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Speaker 3: And you point out those one thousand scientists floating around

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Speaker 3: that are Chinese nationals, Chinese citizens of places like the

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Speaker 3: National Institutes of Health, And I say, what are we thinking.

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Speaker 3: We now know that China had access to computer systems

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Speaker 3: in America dating back many years now by way of

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Speaker 3: Bill Gates and Microsoft having access, and you just have

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Speaker 3: to wonder, China has no qualms about stealing intellectual property.

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Speaker 3: They have no qualms about taking what they learned here.

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Speaker 3: And if they went back to China and made crops

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Speaker 3: that were resistant to fungus or other pathogens and then

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Speaker 3: let those pathogens go here in America or in Argentina

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Speaker 3: or Ukraine or some of the other places preuse tremendous

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Speaker 3: amounts of food in this world, I mean, the effects

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Speaker 3: could be devastating. So I really like what you and

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Speaker 3: seb Grk and we're talking about, let's vet these people.

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Speaker 4: We can't just let them come in. Oh, I'm a student.

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Speaker 4: We need to do better. We need to do better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do.

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Speaker 1: And I think there's a down payment now on a

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Speaker 1: real strategy that Brooke Rollins and the other Cabinet secretaries

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Speaker 1: Christy Nome and Pam Bondi and Pete Hegseth unveiled early

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Speaker 1: this month about a couple weeks after our special But

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Speaker 1: much more.

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Speaker 2: Still needs to be done.

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Speaker 1: One area that I wasn't thinking about until today was

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Speaker 1: the vulnerability of our farming industry to hackers and cybersecurity.

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Speaker 1: The farming industry is becoming automated. AI is going to

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Speaker 1: make it even more automated, whether it's automated dairy machines

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Speaker 1: or automated tractors in the field, they're vulnerable and it's

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Speaker 1: like all of our other connected devices in the world.

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Speaker 1: Brooke Rollins really seemed to have her finger on that

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Speaker 1: pulse and making sure that we get ahead of that

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Speaker 1: before that becomes a crisis.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've had the privilege and I don't know the

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Speaker 3: last time you were in the cab of a big

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Speaker 3: John Deere track. First of all, there as big as

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Speaker 3: a battleship. Some of these tracks, they're gigantic, and they

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Speaker 3: can plug in everything. You know, you've got your geotracking systems,

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Speaker 3: you got your AI, you can do these giant fields

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Speaker 3: in Illinois and Iowa and all over this country and

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Speaker 3: basically you're there as it's completely automated. The machine's moving,

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Speaker 3: and yes there's a human being in it. But because

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Speaker 3: of that, it's connected to satellites, it's connected to the cloud,

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Speaker 3: it's connected all these computer systems. And if the Chinese

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Speaker 3: or anybody else can figure out, well they're planning this

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Speaker 3: at this rate with this seed and some of these seeds.

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Speaker 3: As I mentioned Syngenta providing the seed, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of place in there for some well for some monkey

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Speaker 3: business for lack of a better term, where they could

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Speaker 3: play with how we plant things, how we don't plant things,

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Speaker 3: what fertilizer cans use, what seeds get used, and they

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Speaker 3: can all get and extract this information and that high

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Speaker 3: tech system.

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Speaker 4: We love it. It helps us, but it also has some vulnerabilities.

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Speaker 1: Clearly, it seemed like today we got a good sense that, uh,

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Speaker 1: Congress isn't sure what's gonna do yet, we gotta we

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Speaker 1: gotta get a better focus on it. Where do you

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Speaker 1: think Congress goes. It's a really important piece of legislation.

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Speaker 2: Normally it was automatic. Last year we whiffed on it.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, we've had some good years and bad

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Speaker 3: years for the farm Bill. WI Stavena, the former Senator

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Speaker 3: of my stay, usually was at the forefront there. She's retired,

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Speaker 3: of course. I just hope we can excuse me for this.

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Speaker 3: I hope we can plant the seeds for security in

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Speaker 3: our agricultural sector going forward. It's important it feeds the world,

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Speaker 3: not just America, but the world. We have to be

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Speaker 3: sensitive that, we have to be mindful of that. We

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Speaker 3: have to keep her eye on the ball, even with

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Speaker 3: all these other things going on, and boy has been

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Speaker 3: a busy news cycle, but nothing more important than the

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Speaker 3: food supply of this country for us and for everybody else.

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, that'll wrap up our special conversation today

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Speaker 1: about aggretarism and food security.

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Speaker 2: Well off the weekend. We'll be back on Monday, regular

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Speaker 2: programming