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Speaker 1: Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling, Railval, No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth, Vely. That's good.

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Speaker 1: So the next guest you're about to hear, I actually

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Speaker 1: had a major crush on for a long time is

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Speaker 1: amazing brother. By the way, Josh, what a great man

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Speaker 1: he is. I mean so amazing, so sweet and so

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Speaker 1: sweet and gentle, and oh yeah, he was great, but

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Speaker 1: it was it was fun for me. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I've known Jess a long time. She's married to my

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Speaker 1: friend Cash that I went to high school with. We

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Speaker 1: were in the same grade, and so I've known them

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Speaker 1: a long time. But I've never gotten to know Josh

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Speaker 1: like that. No, I know, neither of I. You know,

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Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's going through some ship too

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Speaker 1: that you're gonna hear, not going to spoil it, but

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Speaker 1: you know he's he's had some moments and and they

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Speaker 1: had a moment on the Show's kind of great. They

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Speaker 1: had a moment she literally just wrote me, hold on,

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Speaker 1: did she Yeah? It was towards the end and they

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Speaker 1: got into some religious conversation and it there's a little fireworks,

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Speaker 1: and it was it was exciting. I actually was enjoying

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Speaker 1: it thoroughly. But it was good. It was so positive

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Speaker 1: and amazing and the real I mean, that's what I

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Speaker 1: love about when you bring two siblings on, you know,

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Speaker 1: who can really talk to each other and get real

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Speaker 1: with each other and are unafraid to say what they feel.

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Speaker 1: And that's what happened, and it was it was awesome.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna like it. You're gonna love it. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna call me, You're gonna love it. Here is Jessica

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Speaker 1: and Josh album. Hi you guys. I'm so excited what's

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Speaker 1: going on? This is so fun. You guys are really

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Speaker 1: close in age. You're thirteen months apart, which is like

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Speaker 1: Irish Irish twins. I couldn't imagine having kids this close apart,

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Speaker 1: Like when I just think of like nine months pregnant

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Speaker 1: Like are you kidding me? Yeah no, no, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: even I mean, look, I wait seven years between my kids,

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Speaker 1: so it's only you wait seven years and different men

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Speaker 1: there's a whole process. It's like the chapter way. You're

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Speaker 1: probably the most sane. My parents were like nineteen when

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Speaker 1: my mom was nineteen when she had me, in twenty

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Speaker 1: when she had my brother. Wow, what it's just you guys, right? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: our mom got cancer so she couldn't have any kids

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Speaker 1: at like twenty two. What a blessing? Then I guess right,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was pop them out and then boy,

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Speaker 1: yeah is it right after I have Wow, it all

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Speaker 1: happens for a reason. So you guys, where were you born?

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Speaker 1: We were born in Pomona. Oh no, sorry, he was

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Speaker 1: born in Mississippi. Sorry. I was born in Mississippi. Oh nice.

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Speaker 1: She was born in Pomona. Oh so you got like

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Speaker 1: the cool place to be born, like for California, for California,

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Speaker 1: like Pomona. You're like, well, I was born in Pomona.

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Speaker 1: You know you're like the fair Plex. You're next to

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Speaker 1: the Fairplex. Yeah. So would you would you say that

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Speaker 1: being so close in age, I mean that obviously strengthened

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Speaker 1: your bond. I would think, right, I mean, you're you.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like who's the older one. I know there

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Speaker 1: is one, but you know, being that close, you become

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Speaker 1: more of a team. I would think, I would say

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Speaker 1: early in the early ages. Yes, and then there was

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Speaker 1: a there was a time where I mean I just

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Speaker 1: I always I always acted older older. Yeah, yeah, like

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Speaker 1: even though I've never been older than Oliver. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a very typical thing for girls that we kind

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Speaker 1: of it's like, I don't know, maybe it's our DNA.

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Speaker 1: We're just like ready to figure things out very young. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot we don't like to deal

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Speaker 1: see it with Ronnie, can't you see it with your

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Speaker 1: it's just he's a maniac. Like he throws all the

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Speaker 1: I don't understand what's going on. Well, Honor and Wilder,

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Speaker 1: this because because I've participated in some zooms early on,

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Speaker 1: Honor is like all up on it, raising her hand. No,

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Speaker 1: I I talked to her about like engaging and conversation

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Speaker 1: of like brats on the that are just being disrespectful

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Speaker 1: and not paying attention Like it's annoying, So don't be annoying, Honor, Like,

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Speaker 1: You know, I were you a good Were you a

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Speaker 1: good student? I know Cash was because so so just

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Speaker 1: for people that don't know, Cash and I were actually

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Speaker 1: in school together. So Wilder and Honor are in the

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Speaker 1: same grade, right, Yeah, and you were? And Oliver were

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Speaker 1: I met Jessica through Cash, right, isn't that the first

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Speaker 1: she's a great student. Naturally, it's annoying. I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't I will never know what that feels like.

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Speaker 1: First of all, why were you born in Biloxi? So

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Speaker 1: my dad's in the Air Force, so from Pomona, and

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Speaker 1: They absolutely do. They're like no one would put up

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Speaker 1: people people that are It entertains anybody if you're around them.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys have memories of traveling around and being

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Speaker 1: I think the reason why I started acting and it

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Speaker 1: But then now when I look back, like I would

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Speaker 1: But you know that unit is strong no matter where

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Speaker 1: added baggage. Huh. Your mom got sick when you were

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Speaker 1: a project manager on cell phone towers that look like trees.

427
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Speaker 1: And they don't know what they're own buildings too, so

428
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: they're all over the place. But yeah, that's basically it.

429
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: But like it's such a specific thing, right, It's like

430
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Speaker 1: when he told me what he was like, that's amazing.

431
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Speaker 1: I don't even think about there needs to he's somebody

432
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Speaker 1: in charge of that. I just see them and I'm like, wait,

433
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Speaker 1: how did that get very different looking tree? Oh wait,

434
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Speaker 1: that's a freaking cell phone tower. And it's fun when

435
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: I see a site built and I'm like I did that,

436
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Speaker 1: Like I I negotiated that lease. I was a part

437
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Speaker 1: of that design. Yeah, I'll take an ownership. Yeah, because

438
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Speaker 1: we do water tanks, we do fake water tanks and

439
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Speaker 1: do all those other things. And they're like, man, I

440
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Speaker 1: actually want to I actually want to know about that.

441
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: I've always wondered about that. As far as the design

442
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Speaker 1: of these trees or these sort of water tanks or

443
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Speaker 1: whatever it is to disguise the cell tower. Who comes

444
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Speaker 1: up with that design? How does that implement? You do?

445
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Speaker 1: Basically basically so so do they get like a menu

446
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Speaker 1: of like it could look like this. So basically we

447
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448
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Speaker 1: the city allow in this area? Do they allow trees,

449
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Speaker 1: do they allow tanks, do they allow blah blah blah.

450
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Speaker 1: And then you look at what they what's available. And

451
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: then you go to your architect and you're like, hey,

452
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453
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454
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Speaker 1: the foundation and they obviously I'm not an architect, so

455
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: I don't do all that. I know how to read

456
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457
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458
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Speaker 1: by the way, you know what you know, what be

459
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: interesting is to create art pieces around it, meaning like

460
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: make it artistic instead of just a tree, trying to

461
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: blend in do something in a creative space that isn't

462
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Speaker 1: an actual cell tower but is artistry. So they in

463
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464
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465
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Speaker 1: has some kind of artistic so you can hire like

466
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467
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Speaker 1: I love the cell phone tower. I never even thought

468
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Speaker 1: of that, just being all creative and stuck. Well, I

469
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Speaker 1: don't you guys been to Santa Monica. I'm sure you

470
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471
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472
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473
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Speaker 1: moved in with your grandparents? Where was your What was

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Speaker 1: your mom and dad doing when you moved in with

527
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Speaker 1: the grandparents? Was your dad still in the Army? No,

528
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Speaker 1: he was in the air So he was in the

529
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Speaker 1: Air Force. And then he got out and he was

530
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out sort of what he wanted to do,

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Speaker 1: and he partnered with his friend at the time to

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Speaker 1: start like a mortgage and real estate key. Oh right.

533
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Speaker 1: He was like a super like he was a sales

534
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: guy force for grocery cans and drinks and stuff and

535
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Speaker 1: Tiger milk carts. So he would go to the shelves

536
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Speaker 1: of grocery stores and they gave him like a it

537
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Speaker 1: was a we got we got a new car. Remember

538
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Speaker 1: it was the It was like a super like a hatchback.

539
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Speaker 1: And he would go around and he'd fill up the

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Speaker 1: car with like product that was damaged. So we had

541
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Speaker 1: like a grip of handsome sodas and tiger milks car

542
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: and like tiger milk bars were everything. I remember that.

543
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Speaker 1: That's so weird. So he did that for a bit

544
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: and then decided, yeah, he hated he he wanted he

545
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to work for somebody. He wanted to be independent.

546
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Speaker 1: So then he started, uh a business with mortgage. Really

547
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: he does. He still does that today, the same thing.

548
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: And grandparents and your grandparents did they like watch you basically?

549
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: Were they really hands Yeah? Yeah, my grandma, Yeah, she

550
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Speaker 1: like helped raise us because then my mom was you

551
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Speaker 1: know she what didn't she do? She was like managing

552
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: clothing stores, movie theaters. She worked as a bartender. She

553
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: did many, many many jobs. And when you started acting, Josh,

554
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: did you start acting? Yes? So I started, so I

555
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: saytually started modeling, Okay, I started. I My mom actually

556
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Speaker 1: forced me to get into it when she started and

557
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: like got me headshots and all this stuff. I'm like,

558
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: and I was so not confident because I was I

559
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Speaker 1: was a chubby little fact. I was like, nobody wants

560
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Speaker 1: to see you know, like you just that word. I mean,

561
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Speaker 1: you were just what I was just growing And anyway, anyway,

562
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Speaker 1: I have pictures. That's true anyway, So I was done

563
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: with I just I literally it was taking me away

564
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Speaker 1: from sports, Like I was going on auditions, like I

565
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Speaker 1: don't want to do this, and so I did not.

566
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Speaker 1: I was having a good time just going to her

567
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Speaker 1: sets and stuff like that, you know, and just being

568
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. And then when I was sixteen, I

569
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Speaker 1: started modeling and it kind of that's kind of how

570
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Speaker 1: it started. So I was making some decent money modeling,

571
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: and seventeen eighteen I got a couple of commercials and

572
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: then see, I never got any work modeling or commercials.

573
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Speaker 1: They said I was too moody and I like didn't

574
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: have the face and all the things. I was what, Yeah,

575
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: I didn't smile enough, I didn't have I wasn't outgoing enough.

576
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: He got everything that like, oh, doors open for him

577
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: that were always closed for me because I was like

578
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: angsty teenager like Daria was like my so fun. But

579
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Speaker 1: then yeah, and then I actually we actually did a

580
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: show when I was nineteen Dark Dark Angel, so he

581
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: was one of the sibling type characters like genetically engineered.

582
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Speaker 1: It was in a couple episodes. Yeah, and then I

583
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Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I'm gonna dive ball in

584
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Speaker 1: and then I ended up going to New York for

585
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Speaker 1: like a six week intensive class as a David Mammott

586
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Speaker 1: Acting School Acting school, and I loved it and I

587
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Speaker 1: just started I actually ended up falling in love with it.

588
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Speaker 1: Sports was kind of already done with my life at

589
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Speaker 1: that point, and so I was like, all right, let's

590
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Speaker 1: do this, and was doing a couple of things. I

591
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: was doing a lot of a lot of commercials and

592
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Speaker 1: then a lot of like just independent things. And then

593
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Speaker 1: I was like, then I had my son, and then

594
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Speaker 1: you know, I got married, had my son. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you know what I gave my My wife gave me

596
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: an ultimatum saying, you know, if you don't make it

597
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Speaker 1: by this point, we got to move on. And I

598
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Speaker 1: actually booked a soap and I was ready to go.

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00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: I was actually they were gonna move to New York,

600
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Speaker 1: and last minute it got like it got mixed. So

601
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well, I got to do

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Speaker 1: something else. And I was doing real estate right when

603
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Speaker 1: I got out of high school. I got my real

604
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: estate license because my dad and so I was doing

605
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: that at the same time. So it was kind of

606
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: keeping me afloat. And then that tanked and then SAG

607
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: went on strike at the same time, and so I

608
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. And so one of my

609
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: clients actually worked in the wireless industry that I was

610
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Speaker 1: doing a loan for, and he's like, hey, I worked

611
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Speaker 1: for tom Mobil. We need somebody in our leasing department,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the real estate license, reviewing leases and

613
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And so I haven't really looked back since. Well,

614
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Speaker 1: it sounds like you really fell in love with being

615
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: an actor. I mean, does that love just go away

616
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: or are you to? I mean, yeah, where are you

617
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: at with that? I mean, is is there still a

618
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: place for you to go pursue something that you love?

619
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Speaker 1: Of course I would hope. So, I mean I definitely

620
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: haven't completely given it up. Obviously, I did, you know,

621
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: I did the show with my sister and I auditioned

622
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: and I got it and they loved me and they

623
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: did it. I mean, I said, because I'm tough, I'm like,

624
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: do not give it to him, Like yeah, if only

625
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: if you guys think he's the best, But don't even

626
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: tell anyone that he's my brother or nothing. Just like,

627
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: make it just totally fair. He either gets it already,

628
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: doesn't you guys like him or you don't. And they

629
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: actually said, you know, we hate, we kind of hate

630
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: that he's the best one and we hate because it could,

631
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, be a liability and like what if it

632
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, and then we'd feel weird with you

633
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: if we have to write him off the show right away,

634
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: if it's blah blah blah. And I was like, I

635
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: don't care. He doesn't care either. He has another job, Like,

636
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: he has a job. This is just fun for him,

637
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: it's a passion, same for me, you know, like and

638
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: and so they he actually got it. I'm trying to

639
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: change this around to see, like honestly, like how Oliver

640
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: would feel in that position, and it would be terrible.

641
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: Like if they wanted to write them off, I'd be like,

642
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: this is Devin's she's heartless by the way. She doesn't care.

643
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: She is she will be like getting them out of here.

644
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: But you know what we I I just feel like

645
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: you're either like, are it or you're not. And we

646
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't bullshit around here and don't do any favors. I

647
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: don't like owing people something like I'm a big believer

648
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: in the right person gets the job for the right reasons.

649
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: You know, you can't like this. The whole competitive nature

650
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: of the business, which is real and to me is

651
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: always felt bizarre because it's like you're only gonna get

652
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: the part if you're right for the part, you know,

653
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: like yeah, and I and I feel like if they

654
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: and I've always felt this way, if they want me,

655
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: they definitely don't want someone else, because I never looked

656
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: like any of those girls that was ever auditioning for anything,

657
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, I was always coming out of left feel

658
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: like they didn't really know what to do with me

659
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: in a room, and so I was like, you want

660
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: to kN you either want me or you don't, and

661
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: if you want someone else, then great, you know, next

662
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: moving on. I never took it personally, and I never

663
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: really felt competitive because, like you said, like if it's

664
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: right for you to do it, then really no one

665
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: else should do it and it'll just that will happen.

666
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: It's funny that you're saying this because a couple of

667
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: us started doing businesses before it was It wasn't necessarily

668
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: the hip thing to do. If you were an actor,

669
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: you know that you were going to like become a

670
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: co founder of a business and start something. It was

671
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: sort of like just a different kind of way of thinking.

672
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: And the fact that you're saying that you didn't take

673
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: that part of the industry personally, it's probably a good

674
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: indication of someone who would be okay, their ego would

675
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: always be okay, hey doing other things, you know, which

676
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: probably does lead to the success. I think the mental health,

677
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: the mental health aspect of that too is huge what

678
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: you said, because when I used to go to uh

679
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: in acting classes, I would have guys that would be like,

680
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: this is everything. I can't do anything else. This is

681
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, dude, if this is if you're if

682
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: this is you, if this is defining you, man, you're

683
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: going to be a sad person. You know. But you

684
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: know you have that and then you had those people,

685
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: and you know, I just feel bad because it's you know,

686
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: there's so much more out there. Yeah, And I think

687
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: like what you're saying is interesting because I think people's

688
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: identity Josh and and and Kate like, people's identity is

689
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: certainly attached to sort of like their profession in a

690
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: lot of ways. Because in our society and our culture

691
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: and the United States, like we live to work where

692
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: I think in other cultures that are more advanced or

693
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: certainly been around longer. They work to live. And because

694
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: we try to get so much out of work life

695
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: fulfillment and mental and personal and heart fulfillment out of work,

696
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: we then put too much on it, and it's tied

697
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: too much to our identity, and and in entertainment it's

698
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: really awful because it's always like the girlfriend or the

699
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: boyfriend that has one foot out the door and is

700
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: never really going to like be that into you and

701
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: is never really gonna seas and no, it's not safe

702
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: and and and you can never close the deal actually,

703
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: because it's it's I don't know why we do it,

704
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: it's it's It definitely can make you feel really wild

705
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: because no matter how much you bring to the table,

706
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: no matter how good you are, no matter how accomplished

707
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: you are, it's still constantly telling you that you never

708
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: be good enough in somebody's eyes. I think I think

709
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: that I always say, if you, if you really, if

710
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: you choose to be an actor, it's something you really love.

711
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: You're like, you're you're a little crazy and you like pain.

712
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's very mad. You like to be emotionally

713
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: distraught in pain and distraught and feel really bad about yourself.

714
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: It's not true. It's like, you know, you're never going

715
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: to have full you know, adoration and validation. It's always,

716
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, there's always it's always criticism. It's always uh,

717
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: everyone's always skeptical. Like you never get that. You know.

718
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: There are moments that feel victorious, but the second you

719
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: get comfortable, the next one yeah, and you're like, I

720
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: want to go back for more. It's a one sided love,

721
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: it's very much. It's very much like children. I'll never

722
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: love you as much as you love them. They'll never

723
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: be as into you. You get moments where they like

724
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: pretend like, you know, you matter to them a lot,

725
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: usually when they're younger, and then once they their hormones

726
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 1: start and they see that, you know, and they start

727
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: getting their swag and they start thinking on their own, like,

728
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: they'll never love you like you love them. It's a

729
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: one sided relationship. It's fucking terrible. Hollywood's the same way.

730
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: You'll never get back what you put in, that's for sure.

731
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: You guys feel super like a very level headed family.

732
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: I wonder your mom and your dad like the stability

733
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: of that relationship. Even though it stability, Oh, I like

734
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: whatever that is no, no, no, they'll kill us. No,

735
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: they're still together. It's a marathon, it's it is. But

736
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know if I want to

737
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: be on a marathon like that, you know what I mean?

738
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: My brother actually married his high school girlfriend. Wow, his

739
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: only girlfriend, and that's who he's still married to. Oh

740
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: my gosh, with no breaks. Never never We our senior

741
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: year only had one person in his life ever, Yeah,

742
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: one girlfriend? One? Yeah? Whatever? I mean, I did you

743
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: kiss any other girls here? What? What? I don't even know, Josh,

744
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: I've only ever been with Danny. Danny is the only

745
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: man I've ever been with time sixty eight. So I

746
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: never but I dated through my senior year in high

747
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: school and then my senior year high school. I got to, uh,

748
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: do you go to like Sadie Hawkins or something with

749
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: Nikki when you guys were like in sophomore when we

750
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: were sophomores. I went to a dance with her. Yeah,

751
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: and I didn't know who she was before that, and

752
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: then we went to with a stranger. You were, she

753
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: she wants she's she's asked you. She asked somebody to

754
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: ask me to ask her. So I didn't know. But

755
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: but just just even a quick question on that, like

756
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: how how is that? I mean, you know, does that?

757
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: Does it? Are you? You're satiated, You're content? I mean,

758
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: obviously this is your woman, this is your life. Do

759
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: you ever look back? And not that you would ever

760
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: really admit this, you know, on a podcast, but do

761
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: you look back? I wish I could have or should

762
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 1: have or even for her things as well. Look, I'll

763
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: tell you the honest to god truth. We I fall

764
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: more in love with her every freaking days. And that's

765
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: not like I like I've never I've never thought that

766
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: I didn't want to. Don't get me wrong. We have

767
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: moments of just like just I don't want to be

768
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: next to you, you know, for about a week or so.

769
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: But I mean she's mine, I'm hers, you know, like

770
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: it's it's I don't know, it's to me. It's super

771
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: romantic and beautiful. And again she's the only person I've

772
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: ever slept with and I'm the only person she's ever

773
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: slept with. So like that's what we have and like

774
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: we can you know what I mean, Like no one

775
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: can take that away from us. So amazing. Yeah, and

776
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: I would I would like to think that I'm the

777
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: yeah me too, Okay, No, I was like, I'm a

778
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: casuals like your prude, like your prude, and I was like, yeah,

779
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: so what. But I definitely am like, god, damn, it

780
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: is this the rest of my mother life, like really

781
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: doing this? And I'm looking at seventeen years with this

782
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 1: full looking at my face and we are like we're

783
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: in it to win it. And I have to say,

784
00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: like at around having Hayes time, because you the only

785
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: kid we actually planned. The other two were like, oh,

786
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: here we go and and that. And since then, well,

787
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: I actually have fallen more in love with Cash since Hazy.

788
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's just my own maturity,

789
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: Like I'm really like ready, I've moved into this, uh,

790
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: more content, more confident, more in in my own feeling

791
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: my I don't know, feeling really present, and so then

792
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: that allows me to be more present in my relationship

793
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: with him. So I don't know, but yeah, no, I've been.

794
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: I'm twenty years in. It's the best it's ever been.

795
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: It's just about vulnerability. It's about being open and honest

796
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: and just not holding anything back. And I've had an

797
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: amazing wife who's gone on this journey with me and

798
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: my insanity and all of my faults and slip ups

799
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: and fuck ups. I think we're living in a society

800
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: now that is so easy. All we want to do

801
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 1: is say, oh, you are bad, You're fucking out, rather

802
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: than saying, wait a minute, let's go thirty thousand feet.

803
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: Let's look at the big picture. What is our life?

804
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: Who are you internally? What is your heart? You know

805
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: you are not your actions. Your actions are maybe symptomatic

806
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: of something. And if she wasn't the woman that she

807
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: is and saw me in my rawest spiritual self, we

808
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: would never be where we are. And it's only because

809
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: of her that we are where we are. You got

810
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: so lucky, Yeah, oh I did? Oh my god, I

811
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: mean you you. I couldn't have asked for a better

812
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: sister in law and what she has given you, like

813
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: talk about the purest love like she really she chose

814
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: to believe in you mm hm, exactly that. And she

815
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: was right to do that, you know, because you guys

816
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: had that. You you had that made good. She made

817
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: a good bet. You know, it was a risky one,

818
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: but she made a good bet. But I think you're right. Ally,

819
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: I think vulnerability is so key. As we get older,

820
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: you kind of have to ask yourself. And it goes

821
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: the other way too, because I think sometimes people get

822
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: vulnerable and realize they might have been forcing something that's

823
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,360
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824
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,200
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825
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,080
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826
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,319
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827
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: you may take that or that you do that are

828
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,880
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829
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,000
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830
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,239
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831
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,440
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832
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,840
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833
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,279
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834
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835
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,600
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836
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:20,280
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Speaker 1: about your relationships with your significant others? Is that part

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Speaker 1: of your relate You're part of your brother sister relationship

891
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: at all? I feel like we've had some pre I

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00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: feel like we've had good conversations. I mean, for the

893
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Speaker 1: most part, I think everybody in our family feels like

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Speaker 1: anyone who would put up with me like I'm lucky

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Speaker 1: put up with my ass. Well. Also, just you're so

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Speaker 1: open too, like you do openly talk about things. But

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Speaker 1: I would think that that comes from your whole family

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Speaker 1: being pretty open. Yeah, And I think it's also I

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Speaker 1: think I think I started to study people and be

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Speaker 1: an actor and try and fall into the shoes and

901
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: the mental of someone else's experience because I'm trying to

902
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Speaker 1: figure out human behavior, and so when I talk about it,

903
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: it's it's also just me trying to figure it all out.

904
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Speaker 1: Because I've always felt like such an alien in my

905
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: family and so different, and I was like, how the

906
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: how was I even born in around these people because

907
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: we are so different, and I always felt like an

908
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: outcast and I did not feel connected. Don't know how

909
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Speaker 1: because my grandma was an actress and a dancer and artists, artists,

910
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: my grandpa was. They were all musicians and artists, you know,

911
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Speaker 1: but they I don't know, I just I just never

912
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Speaker 1: felt like the rules that the family cares about, those

913
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 1: rules just didn't make sense to me. I just kind

914
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Speaker 1: of I always felt like, don't do it just because people,

915
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Speaker 1: that's what's been done before. Rules. What kind of rules,

916
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Speaker 1: like actual rules? Yeah, like real rules, Like my it's

917
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Speaker 1: like Catholic, like Mexican, like very traditional, like machismo like

918
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Speaker 1: men rule the house and very like classic that. And

919
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Speaker 1: I just was like fuck that, And I just never

920
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Speaker 1: wanted that, and I didn't want to cash. Cash doesn't

921
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Speaker 1: rule the house. No, That's probably why they had so

922
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Speaker 1: much so too alpha we're both alpha. He makes space

923
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 1: for me and I make space for him, and we

924
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: go back and forth in in it. But yeah, like

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Speaker 1: it's it's a lot, I think to have two very

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Speaker 1: strong willed people that have very specific ideas about how

927
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Speaker 1: things should be done and to like coexist. And then

928
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Speaker 1: also sometimes Jessica doesn't believe that there's more than one

929
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Speaker 1: way to skin a cat. I'm learning, Josh, Okay, I'm learning.

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Speaker 1: Does that sound familiar over? I feel like, guys, I

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Speaker 1: feel like if you wanted to really know how to

932
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Speaker 1: skin a cat, you'd go to me and Jessica. I'm

933
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Speaker 1: just saying what you said is a perfect example. I

934
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Speaker 1: couldn't disagree more. I mean, there's a lot of ways

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Speaker 1: to skin a cat, Guys, Let's be honest. I don't

936
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Speaker 1: want to skin a cat. This sounds terrible. That's the visual.

937
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 1: Like right now in your guys's life, do you feel

938
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Speaker 1: like like where are we at one as like siblings

939
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Speaker 1: and two just individually? Are we in the are we

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00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 1: in a place of contentment? Are we in a place

941
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: of transition? Like we're in interesting ages too, So like

942
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: where are you guys at as a as a sibling

943
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: relationship and individually. Why do I have to go first? Okay,

944
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: I mean I'll go first for me, like honestly, for us,

945
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Speaker 1: When are you not content? Is all I have to say.

946
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: Because he's always happy, He's always content, he loves his life.

947
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Speaker 1: But I feel like our love, our love is he's

948
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Speaker 1: pretty happy with all of his choices since day one. No,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, I just I feel like we've been growing.

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Speaker 1: We grow every year. I mean, I feel like our

951
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: relationship grows. We have you know, she'll call me out

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Speaker 1: of nowhere and we'll have like an hour conversation out

953
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Speaker 1: of nowhere, you know what I mean. Which you know

954
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: Josh had a pretty bad health scare with COVID. Yeah,

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00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: oh really, Yeah, it's still it's still hit. I mean

956
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: it's I'm I'm what you call a long hauler. So honestly,

957
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Speaker 1: I was gonna warn you before we had this thing

958
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: because sometimes I just go blank. I have that brain fog,

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Speaker 1: like I literally can't find the words that I'm gonna

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00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: I want to say all the time, and I do

961
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Speaker 1: a lot of meetings, so it's frustrating. So I have

962
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Speaker 1: to like warn when I go to like cities, I

963
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: basically have to warn them, like if I pause for

964
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: a little while, it's there's things I can't control. It like,

965
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: it's just it is what it is, and so you know,

966
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: so it doesn't get awkward or embarrassing. I just kind

967
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: of lay it out there. But I don't know. It's

968
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: been going pretty good right now, So don't But he

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00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: had I mean he do you want to tell him

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00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: what happened? Or no? Yeah, I mean it hit me,

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00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: It hit me, It hit our family, and it hit

972
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: me extremely. Uh well, just tell them what happened on Christmas?

973
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's so so. So I had COVID right

974
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: and it lasted about three weeks, and I had it

975
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: pretty bad. I had every symptom. I had symptoms I

976
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Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know were symptoms. I looked it up

977
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh crap, this is a symptom. And

978
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: it was. You are also in the belief of like God,

979
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, wouldn't give me something I couldn't handle. And

980
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: maybe you weren't like the most safe. I don't know

981
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: about that. She assumes a lot, she assumes a lot

982
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: about me. But no, but I think it's because I'm

983
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: so easy going that everyone thinks I'm just like God's

984
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: got this. Of course God's got this. But but you know,

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Speaker 1: if there's Adavil in front of me and I'm like

986
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: I have a headache, God's like take the dayang Advill.

987
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: You know what, God is not trying to do all

988
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: of that because you're not a puppet. And there's something

989
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: called free well anyway, anyway, so back to the COVID.

990
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: So I got COVID pretty bad, and I went to

991
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Speaker 1: the emergency room a couple of times. Get to the

992
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: point Christmas, Christmas morning, I had it. It's stopped at

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Speaker 1: the end of the en For Christmas morning, I was

994
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Speaker 1: it was like six thirty in the morning. We were

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01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: opening it gifts with my kids, and I said, Nikki,

996
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm about to pass out, and then I literally just

997
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: fell over on the couch and started having seizures. Had

998
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: a massive heart and he went and he basically was

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01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: out for like twenty six minutes, noncou so I was.

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01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: I was out with seizures, and they were they were

1001
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: My son called the nine one one, my daughter got

1002
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: the neighbor. Uh. My wife was, you know, tending to me.

1003
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: And I finally came to when I was getting out

1004
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: of the ambulance at the at the at the hospital,

1005
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: which is they said, is like that doesn't have like

1006
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Speaker 1: you know, you shouldn't be out, he was out too

1007
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: long kind of thing. So so I found they found

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Speaker 1: pe pulmonary embolisms in my chest. So that's what it is,

1009
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: and I still have them. I take blood thinners for

1010
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: it and stuff like that, and it's messed me up.

1011
01:00:54,520 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: Like honestly, I've been a mess, like since Christmas. Sorry,

1012
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: So like that, I think for me, it like made

1013
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: our relationship feel so you like immediately go into nothing

1014
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: else matters in life than making sure that we have time. Yeah,

1015
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: it just felt so like life instantly felt so fragile,

1016
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: and so because I could. I mean honestly, I don't

1017
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should be you know I should.

1018
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: The doctors don't know how he is here. So it's

1019
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: just like it just puts so much into into perspective.

1020
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: So any kind of like differences that we have or

1021
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: had in the way that we think and exist in

1022
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: the world, we couldn't be more opposite. And most men,

1023
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: I would say, pretty much everything where we bond is

1024
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, us talking about how mom and dad are.

1025
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: We love them, and that's you know where we land,

1026
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: but we're very opposite in a lot of ways. And

1027
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: I think this experience has brought us together in a

1028
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: way where you're just like, I just want time with you,

1029
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: and I don't know how to create more time with you,

1030
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: but we don't know if if we have tomorrow. Yeah,

1031
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: So wow, it's that. I mean, are you saying, are

1032
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: you speaking generally? Are you speaking specifically with your brother

1033
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: like you don't I think tomorrow, I think specifically with

1034
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: my brother. But then my grandfather just who helped Raises,

1035
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: just passed away and it really was you know, from

1036
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: COVID as well, and and everything just feels really fragile.

1037
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: Everything feels really delicate and fragile. And and I guess,

1038
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, there are a lot of things in life

1039
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: that that I always cared about and that I put

1040
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: as a priority, but ultimately we only have the moment

1041
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: that we're in today and just try to be completely

1042
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: present in this moment. So that's where I'm at. I

1043
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: would say, is that a transition or content? It's both, right, See,

1044
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: it's both, yeah, And I think it's about like not

1045
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: being that person that's going to learn from a from

1046
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: a lesson that we already know, like you know, not

1047
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: waiting you know, too long, like for example, with us,

1048
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: like you know, people that that didn't say didn't say

1049
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: goodbye to their parents and they passed away, Like I

1050
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: wish I would have. I wish I would have I

1051
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: wish I would have been there, I wish I would

1052
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: have done this. It's like we have eyes wide open

1053
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: that tomorrow isn't sure, and so if we're not living

1054
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: completely in the present moment of now and making the

1055
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: most of it, then what the hell are we doing?

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Speaker 1: You know, do you feel like there's been a shift

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01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: in your relationship after this, just as far as what

1058
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about, meaning, Wow, we need to be closer,

1059
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: we need to be more in each other's lives, we

1060
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: need to talk more. We haven't cracked it yet, we

1061
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: haven't figured out what that consistency is, but we definitely

1062
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: talk about it. Yeah, because our schedules are just so

1063
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: insane because the kids don't livelose, we don't live close

1064
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: to each other, an hour from each other, and his

1065
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: kids do all, you know, so many activities on the

1066
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: weekends and that's my time to not do things, and

1067
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: then I work, you know, and here it's just hard

1068
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: when you have kids and work and all that were

1069
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: I always say the kid era, like when you've got

1070
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: kids at home and you're just parenting all the time,

1071
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: is the hardest time, and it's hard to do everything

1072
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: that you want. It's just all about the kids, you know, Yeah,

1073
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: it really is all about that. It because they're narcissists,

1074
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: so they are really like, why isn't it all about

1075
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: me all the dawn time? Like what are you even doing?

1076
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: We didn't ask to be here, mom and dad, so

1077
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: you have to like consider that as well. I don't know,

1078
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, I would say that that changed our dynamic.

1079
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: I haven't. You know. I like to fix things and

1080
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: I like things to be immediate, and I like to

1081
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: have answers. So I wish I would have cracked how

1082
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: we're going to see each other more consistently better, But

1083
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: I haven't cracked it yet. It's interesting because it seems easy,

1084
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, we can always make time, but I guess

1085
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: it's not as easy as it seems. You know, you

1086
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: guys live down this street from each other, and you're like,

1087
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: when do we even get together for dinner? Oh? Oh?

1088
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: Lives like an hour, Like a good hour and a

1089
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: half two hours away in traffic, and so like both ways,

1090
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: that's like three hours of driving just to like see

1091
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: each other. Oh God, if I was, if I was

1092
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: near death, Kate would still be going to Greece and Sardinia.

1093
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: You know, Oh my god, cors Light, Ollie, you're in

1094
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: the Rockies. Yeah, I'm actually in the birthplace of cors Light,

1095
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: and I am not currently drinking one, but in about

1096
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: thirty eight minutes, once I'm done doing this, I will

1097
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: be drinking an ice cold cores Light. Summer always feels

1098
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: like the shortest season, but when you need to make

1099
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: the most of it, you just need to chill. Just

1100
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: have a corse Light, Allie, with exactly what you're doing.

1101
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: Cors Light is the official beer of slowing down summer

1102
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: because as the beer that's made to chill, we want

1103
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: you to savor every second of summer. So when you

1104
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: need to slow down, just open up a course Light.

1105
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: Listen to my voice. It's mountain cold, refreshing, made to chill.

1106
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: Cores Light is cold loggered, cold filtered, and cold packaged.

1107
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: It's as crisp and as refreshing as the Colorado Rockies themselves.

1108
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: It's perfect for a moment to unwind this summer. Get

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Speaker 1: or instacart. Celebrate Responsibly Cores browin Company, Golden Colorado. All right, well, listen,

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Speaker 1: let's do some of these fun questions, like who's the

1112
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: stricter parent. I'm stricter. You just have more weird like

1113
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: God rules, But I'm not st I'm more just like

1114
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: the only thing I'm strict is really mainly with my

1115
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: son because he wants to play a college athlete. So

1116
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm strict with him, you know, taking your stuff, eating

1117
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: and and getting ready. If you really want to do this,

1118
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: I'm here for you. But like, so I'm strict with

1119
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: him with that stuff. But I let them do. They

1120
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: have so much freedom they do in our house. I mean,

1121
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: he goes to his friend. They spend the night at

1122
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: friend's houses all the time. I mean I trust them. Yeah,

1123
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean there's definitely if I'm strict at anything,

1124
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:39,560
Speaker 1: it's it's when it comes to his athletics. And and

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01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: that's pretty much so going back, because I got a

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01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: touch on this the whole God thing, it seems like

1127
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: there's a there's a divide, right, I mean, we have

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Speaker 1: one really one really very religious, and then Jessica, you're

1129
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: sort of worrying that with that. I believe in God.

1130
01:08:55,240 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: I just don't subscribe to a certain notion or idea

1131
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: of one specific type of belief. When it comes to

1132
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: like religious practices, I think that it should be personal,

1133
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 1: and I believe that it's all it's there's I make

1134
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: space for all of it to exist, and I think

1135
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: whatever's right for you. I would say, from a judgmental standpoint,

1136
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 1: you believe that way in a lot of ways, Josh,

1137
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: but you also have the bend of the born again

1138
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: Christian thing. I'm definitely not religious, I'll say that, but

1139
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: it is mine is more relation. But relation, well, to me,

1140
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: it's a relationship because it's it's a real thing. It's

1141
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 1: not you know, I don't have to go to church

1142
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: to feel like I'm doing something good, or I don't

1143
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: have to obtain something to do this, you know, like

1144
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: I do it because I love it, because I love God,

1145
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: because I love God. So just like a parent, like

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01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: a kid, a kid like my son loves me so

1147
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: much he's going to get good grades because he wants

1148
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: to make us proud. It's the same exact concept I love,

1149
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: I love God so much away their electronics. But you

1150
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 1: know my point? No, I do, I get it. But

1151
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: you guys are seemed to be accepting though right I

1152
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: feel like I'm the most accepting person around, So I

1153
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: don't know I'm lies who literally, Josh, Josh, do you

1154
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: ever look at Jessica in the way that she lives

1155
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 1: and make and pass any judgments on the way that

1156
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: she does things based on God and how she should

1157
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: what her relationship should be to God. I'll never I

1158
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: never make judgments. No, you do not. No. Do I

1159
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: agree with some things? Is that is that counting as

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01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: a judge? I mean, do I agree with some things

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01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: my best friend, I don't agree with some things that

1162
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: he does. I don't agree with some things my wife does.

1163
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: So like it's there is a little bit of a judgment,

1164
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 1: and she judges me more than any Absolutely, she judges

1165
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: the crap out of me. And but what she doesn't

1166
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: understand is if she just calls me, she probably we

1167
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: find out that like I didn't say this or I

1168
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: didn't think this way, or whatever the case may be.

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01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: But she judges me definitely. Well, we gotta do, we

1170
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: gotta dive into that for a second. The judgments that

1171
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: that Jessica is passing on you, like what what, what

1172
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: are we? What are we talking about here? Good question?

1173
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: Why do you judge me so much? I don't judge

1174
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: you so much. I just think that the more open, curious,

1175
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: educated you are, then you will have a more well

1176
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: rounded point of view. And sometimes I think you believe

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01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: very narrowly that God will tell you what God wants

1178
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 1: you to believe, and I think that that's very narrow.

1179
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: I think that you have to own life experience, and

1180
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: you have to know that you have the agency to

1181
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: experience life and not be so judgmental of choices, and

1182
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: and also that there's probably different ways that people can

1183
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: experience life. And I know what works for you works

1184
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 1: for you. But I think sometimes when you are so

1185
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: focused on a certain religious belief, it can feel really

1186
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: narrow in your understanding of the world and relationships and

1187
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: journey and this life. So that's all that's to me,

1188
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: Just sometimes it feels really narrow, and I know you're

1189
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: smarter than that, and I know you're better than that

1190
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: than just being so narrow, And so that's where my

1191
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: judgment comes in. Well, I guess it comes down to this, Josh,

1192
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: do you believe that your sister's going to burn in hell?

1193
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't believe. That's a great question, and the answer

1194
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: is I would never. I would never ever think anybody's

1195
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,759
Speaker 1: going to burn in hell because I wouldn't pass that judgment.

1196
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: That's not for me to do. That's on God. God

1197
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: can do whatever he wants. He's got Hey, I don't

1198
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: believe that. Okay, whatever, So there's another thing that we

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01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: disagree on. It's okay, you know, I love people no

1200
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: matter how I no matter what they're doing. How I

1201
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 1: assume I love people right, because that's that's just my nature,

1202
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: it's my character, it's who I am. On the other end,

1203
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: like she like, I feel like she judges me more

1204
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 1: than I've ever judged anyone. So, but I don't love

1205
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: people differently. I just think that sometimes people who subscribe

1206
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 1: to a very specific idea of religion just feels too

1207
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: narrow and it they aren't. It's just a diligence, So

1208
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: it just sounds kind of dumb. So so then that's

1209
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: a that's a that's a judgment that you're making that

1210
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: I don't on anyone. No, I I know but I

1211
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: just think that like that, that to me is like

1212
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: I think everyone's judging people that think that way, and

1213
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: you're not any I think instinctively, naturally we just judge.

1214
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,959
Speaker 1: That's just who we are. I mean, we're constantly passing

1215
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 1: judgments on each other. But when it gets toxic and

1216
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: it turns into anger or hate, you know, yeah, that's

1217
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,959
Speaker 1: not good. But if you're making an observation, an observation

1218
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: or a judgment can be the same thing. This, this

1219
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: convert that I think. I think part of what's challenging

1220
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,799
Speaker 1: always about these conversations is that this is the source

1221
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: of many wars, whether it be personal or whether it

1222
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 1: be countries. And yeah, it's property been happening, right, And

1223
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: and there's this great quote that I love and it's

1224
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: his name is Gregory Roberts. He wrote this amazing book

1225
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: chan Tram, one of my favorite books ever, oh so good,

1226
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: and he says guns do not serve God. And I thought, like,

1227
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: that's such a great like if you could even use

1228
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: a gun as like sort of a metaphor right of

1229
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: like protection, and like when you really think about what

1230
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: God is, like God encompasses and should encompass all, It

1231
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: should God really does have no judgment. God doesn't have favorites.

1232
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: It's sad that everyone's God, whoever that is, can't coexist

1233
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: in ways that just are because to me, God is

1234
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: everywhere with everybody like it. Just so you know, I

1235
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:25,440
Speaker 1: think that's why these conversations can always be so difficult,

1236
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: because you're right, like a lot of people who have

1237
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: a narrow understanding of what God is to them feel

1238
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: like such ownership over that that it doesn't make space

1239
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 1: for God to exist for other people in their own way.

1240
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: And sometimes that narrow understanding of that personal relationship can

1241
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: put boundaries on God's love because God's love is actually

1242
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:59,480
Speaker 1: for all and wins in the end and is all goodness,

1243
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: all love, of all light. It's all the good in

1244
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 1: the world. And there's different manifestations of what God is

1245
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: to different people. God is just simply a word. Who

1246
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: are we to say that the Masai warrior tribes and

1247
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: whatever they feel God is is any better or worse

1248
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: than the sort of Christian you know, Judeo, or God

1249
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: or any religion. It doesn't make sense to me. That's

1250
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 1: why religion feels elitist in a way, because who are

1251
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: you to test say that he's right, you're right, and

1252
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: they're wrong. I mean, that's more my mentality around it

1253
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: is just like I feel like God is so much

1254
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: bigger than an individual's understanding of that relationship, and it

1255
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 1: feels all encompassing and that's all. And that's to me,

1256
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: I think whenever I get a little bit frustrated in

1257
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: some of our conversations, Joshes, I just hope that you're

1258
01:16:55,600 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: sometimes what you say comes off really narrow, when actually

1259
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 1: I know you believe that God is love and God

1260
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: is all that is good, and it's not as narrow

1261
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: as sometimes it comes off, because you know, you really

1262
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: believe in the purity of God's love. You know, when

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Speaker 1: you have these moments where like you walk into a

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Speaker 1: holy building or a church or a place where that

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Speaker 1: that holds space for prayer or collective faith, and that

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Speaker 1: feeling that you kind of like that that at least

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Speaker 1: I get this where it sort of wraps around you.

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Speaker 1: You know, people talking about wellness all the time, I

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Speaker 1: think the biggest thing missing in wellness is faith and

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Speaker 1: and and people who have faith like you, Josh, that

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Speaker 1: is really you know, You're you might say it's Jess,

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Speaker 1: you might say it it feels narrow, but I envy

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Speaker 1: it because a part of me wishes sometimes that I

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Speaker 1: had that type of faith in something, in something I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be having anxiety attacks. Like right now, when I

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Speaker 1: walk into a holy space, I do feel like held.

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Speaker 1: And people who have that I just look at that

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Speaker 1: and I go, it must bring such a wonderful sense

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Speaker 1: of safety and security that that is a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and honestly, I think what really opened like

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Speaker 1: what opens it up for me is I don't believe

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Speaker 1: like I to me, I believe in the in the

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Speaker 1: real Jesus. I don't believe in the white Like it's

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Speaker 1: when I say white Jesus, I'm talking about all these

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Speaker 1: photos of Jesus, you know, like the pictures that people

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Speaker 1: predict like showed of Jesus being white and whatever, like

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Speaker 1: that's not Jesus. That was never Jesus. We all know

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Speaker 1: Jesus wasn't white, and it actually irritates me churches that

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Speaker 1: push that or whatever. So to me, I believe in

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Speaker 1: the true Jesus and that is what's fulfilling and that's

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Speaker 1: what opens up you. And that's why I love it,

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Speaker 1: Like I honestly, this whatever for being so narrow. It's

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Speaker 1: crazy how much I love everyone. So I guess I'll

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Speaker 1: take that's That's all I'm saying is just like I

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Speaker 1: just feel like, even though sometimes some of the things

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Speaker 1: you say feel really narrow, I know that ultimately you

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Speaker 1: are part. You understand the bigger love that that we're

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Speaker 1: that we're talking about that everyone can participate in, no

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Speaker 1: matter where you're from. So that's all I love you, guys.

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Speaker 1: An amazing, amazing, amazing conversation. Conversation. Let's do a couple

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Speaker 1: of quick speed runds. One word to describe each other. Stubborn, prideful.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say stubborn. I was gonna say stubborn too.

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Speaker 1: I'm stubborn. Go go, Okay, who's better at telling stories? Me? You? Jessica?

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Speaker 1: I carry you, I'm I I'm interested. I'm interested in

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Speaker 1: this one for Josh. What's the first celebrity rush? Oh Jessica?

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Speaker 1: Bill really? Oh yeah? Oh yeah? We were little? What

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Speaker 1: about you, jess What about you? Jess She lived with

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Speaker 1: us for a little bit, so I was like, I

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Speaker 1: was like, probably Johnny Depp or something, Yeah, me too?

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Speaker 1: Who was the tattletale? He was a tattletale. Yeah, she

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Speaker 1: also loved to get me in trouble too, But yes,

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Speaker 1: I would probably my car smoking one time, Jessica smoking,

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Speaker 1: I car doing something. Jessica's doing this. Yeah. Yeah. What

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Speaker 1: about first concert? Nik, it's on the block for you.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you go with us? Man? I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: Oh it was it was it was up and smoke tour.

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Speaker 1: Uh no not. It was a power Win six. She

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Speaker 1: took me. She took me to the Power Window six. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Summer Jam Jam or whatever. When I was sixteen. That

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Speaker 1: was my first concert. Amazing. I love hip hops. Who's

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Speaker 1: better in a stressful situation? Josh is pointing, No, No,

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Speaker 1: we probably are pretty good. Pretty well, we're always stressed out,

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Speaker 1: so we we kind of are calm and stressful situations

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Speaker 1: because our parents were always spinning out. Okay, so here's

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Speaker 1: the question. You're going to rob a bank. Who's driving

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Speaker 1: the getaway car? Who's robbing the bank? Josh? Josh? So

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Speaker 1: far Josh is not getting near that bank. No, No,

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Speaker 1: you'll forget stuff. It'll be annoying. Okay, do you want

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Speaker 1: to do the one last quick question? It's a two

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Speaker 1: part of We asked this to everybody Okay. First part

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Speaker 1: is what is if you could take something from your

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Speaker 1: sibling for yourself, a trait, an attribute, something that you

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Speaker 1: love about them that you wish you had, what would

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Speaker 1: that be? And on the flip side of that, if

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Speaker 1: you could alleviate something from them, take a stressor away

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Speaker 1: to make their lives a little bit better, what would

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Speaker 1: that be? What would I take from you, Josh? I

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Speaker 1: would take your content meant with like you don't You're

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Speaker 1: you're happy with things, and you aren't in this constant

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Speaker 1: pursuit of there's something else out there, and I think

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Speaker 1: that there's something so noble about that. And what would

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Speaker 1: I take from you? I would like to take your

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Speaker 1: PTSD because I know how to deal with stress and

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Speaker 1: depression and ups and downs and I wish and you're

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Speaker 1: just learning about mental health and I've been dealing with

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Speaker 1: it my whole life. So I would take that from

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Speaker 1: you because I know how to how to do that

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Speaker 1: one good. I would take her ambition, the the fire

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Speaker 1: and the fight that she has inside of her to

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Speaker 1: just I want to keep pushing. I mean, look at

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Speaker 1: what she did with the Honest Company, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. It's it's it's remarkable. So I would take

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Speaker 1: absolutely more of that. Take away from her. Yeah, take away, uh,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's I would take away her her stress.

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Speaker 1: I mean the stress that she deals with on a

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Speaker 1: on a daily basis, her sleep, her lack of sleep,

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Speaker 1: her lack of she's constantly on the move. I mean

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Speaker 1: take away her schedule. Can I take away your schedule?

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Speaker 1: Going through that ship right now? It's crazy. It's conversation.

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Speaker 1: He's just started it and I've had it like literally

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Speaker 1: since I was like, yeah the post code, Like I

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Speaker 1: get these panic attacks. They're insane. I don't like. I

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Speaker 1: literally think I'm going to die. Ye business got well.

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Speaker 1: My throat has been closed off this entire podcast. I

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Speaker 1: mean my adrenals have been wide open. So I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling it too. Go to the tennis. I love you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love you guys, Love you guys. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for being so open. This is so fun. All right,

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Speaker 1: all right, have a good one, okay. Sibling Revelry is

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Speaker 1: executive produced by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson. Producer is Alison. President,

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Speaker 1: editor is Josh Wendish. Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.

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