WEBVTT - Training Camp Kickoff Show: Storylines Abound 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:08.640 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:18.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is an exclusive 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:25.560 presentation of Dallas Cowboys Breaking News. And just like that, 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:29.600 the sixty second camp in Cowboys history, the forty second 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:33.680 in California in the fifteenth and Oxnard has come and 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.839 kicked off. How about that here from Oxnard, California. It's 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.040 good to be back. There's a smile on David Hellman's face. 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:42.400 There's smile on Mickey's Bagnolah's face. Same here with Kyle Yeoman's. 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.000 As we are the first podcast to get things underway 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.879 for the twenty twenty one season, And just like that, gentleman, 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:51.440 we're back in the thick of it. It was about time, right, 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:53.720 I mean, I was just gonna say, I'll just take 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.600 a line from from Jerry Jones and we're gonna get 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.520 into it. But which which is gonna be a clean 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.920 It's gonna be it's gonna between uh no, not not 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.160 planning on dropping any F bombs right now, but just 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.640 he was talking about how he you know, are we 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.039 ever gonna do this again? Are we ever gonna like, Yeah, 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.039 I have a press conference where you can talk to 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.600 people and just feel kind of normal about what we're doing. 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.480 And that's what's happening right now, and it's really exciting. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.759 It's very very exciting. It's as close to normal as 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.039 we've known it in quite some time. Right we're oh 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.840 my god, like twenty five people on the on the 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.520 tennis court out there for the press conference. Uh, the 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:35.240 press conference was normal. It went an hour, that's about 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.760 what usually takes place, and it was pretty darn good. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.959 But we got to talk about the cowboys and it 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:45.039 wasn't on zoom. Yeah, and we were actually looking at 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.440 somebody that we were asking questions too, and then they 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.400 were looking at us and they could see who was 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:55.360 listening and who was asking the questions. Uh. Yeah, And 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.800 you know, the weather's back to normal here, which is 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.880 seventy five degree and sixty two in the morning when 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:06.720 you wake up. And yeah, it was refreshing after what 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.480 we've been through. Now, there's still a lot of protocols 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:14.120 the media has to follow, but I think everybody would 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.040 rather do that than what we did last summer. I 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.400 think you just hit it on the word refreshed. I 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.760 actually wrote that down at the end of the press 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:23.440 conference because it kind of had that feel, and where 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.360 of course talking about the opening press conference the State 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.320 of the Union that was just here in Oxnard, where 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.880 all three of the figurehead of the Dallas Cowboys, Stephen Jones, 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.840 Jerry Jones, and of course head coach Mike McCarthy talking 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.480 on the podium to the entire media, which, like we 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.880 just said, is refreshing in its own right that they 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.959 were on a podium and hey, there were people in 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.800 person talking to them and able to have a little 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:49.079 bit of dialogue. But it was emotional, and I'm sure 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.480 a lot of that compounds based off of what twenty 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.840 twenty was, but I think there's a lot of expectations 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.160 heading into this season as opposed to what we had 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.040 a year ago. That also adds to a little bit 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.880 of that emotion as well. Absolutely, I mean last year 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.680 was a nightmare, like for like for a lot of reasons. Nay, 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.239 I mean, obviously the pandemic is the big headliner there, 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:13.639 but it was the worst Cowboys season. I mean, I 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.160 don't want to Mick, I don't know, You've done this 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:19.359 a lot longer than Yeah, Okay, how did that? How 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.680 did last year stack up among like the very worst? Well, 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.080 it's gotta be top three. It was. It was as 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:30.680 bad because of what the expectations were. Yeah, because then 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.320 eighty nine there were and and that's and and it 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:37.440 was a promising season that just got absolutely directed, legs 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:41.240 cut out from absolutely and so not just the you know, 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:45.040 the record speaks for itself, but you went into that 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.240 season thinking that it had the chance to be special, 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.200 even with everything going on with COVID, and that was 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.640 part of it. And so yeah, it's it's almost like 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.760 hitting the reset button on your PS five for I 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:57.480 still have a PS four, but you get my point, 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:02.920 uh yeahs at the end of my letters, which you 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:08.880 still right. So and you mentioned the emotion, Jerry's emotion, 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.120 and I think that exhibits how much this all means 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.880 to him. You know. I think some people think, oh, yeah, 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.560 he's this great businessman and all he's worried about is 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:22.719 making money, But he he loves this. Right. The training camp, 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:26.560 the whole deal with the media. You know, I'm gonna guess, 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.400 and just to let everybody know how everything's set up, 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.320 they set up the media in a U shape around 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.960 the practice field well before we had you know, the 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.800 full rain, the whole the whole practice field, and when 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.279 practice would finish, we would be at the end of 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:47.360 the practice field where everybody would exit, and Jerry invariably 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:51.600 would come over and stop, you know, and invariably it 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:56.320 was after you know, the second practice at night, six o'clock, 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.039 when everybody's ready to get done because it's eight o'clock 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.360 back Central time, and he would hold court right just 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.480 on a spur of the moment. Well, yeah, I guarantee 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.400 you because we can't be at this end and the 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.400 interviews are going to be at the far end of 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.600 the field, the other end zone that he's going to 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.200 walk over there one or two times he's gonna find 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.400 to talk to us, right, Jerry Jones is a showman 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:21.760 and he loves the show. And that he said that 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.320 he like, that was the last thing he said today, 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.760 was talking about the show of the NFL is back, 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.679 and you know, we played a season last year and 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.520 Tampa's championship is totally valid. Like, it's amazing what the 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:37.559 NFL pulled off, but it it sucked. I mean that 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.240 that was it was not the NFL that we've all 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.760 come to know and love in the pomp and the 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:47.240 circumstance and having six weeks of anticipation and storylines. We 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.200 don't really get any of that last year, and I 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:53.080 promise you very few people are happier about that than 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.080 Jerry Jones to kind of bring the fireworks back to 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.280 all of this. And I think the media is happy 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.400 about this as well, because I know, certainly we are 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.240 as part of a team. The pageant tree is back, 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.480 and there's a little bit of a pep in the 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.479 step I think of everyone here, and of course the 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:12.280 Cowboys returning. Jerry Jones certainly a big time fan of that. 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.000 But how big of an advantage is this for the 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.440 team itself? Jerry said it in the press conference. Only 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.920 four or five teams actually went away for camp this year. 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.480 A lot of them had it in their facilities at 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.920 home or at least near to home. So I don't 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.719 know if that's an exact number. There may be more 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.479 or less than that regarding teams leaving and going somewhere. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.560 But Mickey, is this a bigger advantage for Mike McCarthy 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.320 heading into camp this year as opposed to compared to 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.680 last year? Because you know what I'm gonna say, I 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:47.800 think kind of pertains to what's going on now. Because 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.479 there were other times we came to camp here and 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.039 it didn't make a hill of beings a difference. Right, 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.919 they were bad, and you know they were still bad, 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:59.560 but here's what happens compared to last year. You have 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:04.560 more camaraderie among the players. They're they're all here together. 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.640 They're not some guys are staying at the hotel. Last year, 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:11.880 some guys are going home. It was just so disjointed. 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.840 You don't get that team feeling. But when you're here, 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.119 you're messing around at night with everybody you know after 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.400 all the meetings, and guys are just kind of bonding, 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.640 and I think that helps. He didn't have that last year. 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.560 He didn't have an offseason last year. He didn't have 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.520 a preseason last year. Now I'm not saying that's why 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.760 they turned out to be six and ten, because there 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.960 was other first year head coaches, but I think just 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.720 the whole combination of it, as I said early, kind 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.520 of derailed the season. And you know, it was bad 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:47.040 and defense was bad, but there was a lot of 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.720 other factors that went into it. But I just think 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:54.040 having everybody here two practice fields outdoors, you don't have 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.080 to practice indoors all the time. You know, you guys 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.800 saw at the Ford Center, I experienced set the Alamo 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:04.440 Dome in San Antonio. That was the most depressing training 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.000 camp practices day in and day out. And this was 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:11.120 two padded practices a day. And the place is so gray. 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:15.520 It's just gray. There's no sunlight. And it was depressing. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.400 And so yeah, getting back here, I just get what's 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.920 a little pep in your step? Yeah, I hesitate to 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.520 call it an advantage because Mick just pointed out, you know, 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.840 some first year head coaches did some great things in 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.920 the league last year. Cleveland comes to mind, and the 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.280 Cowboys have been coming to California for a long time 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:38.120 without a ton to show for. It's true, but again 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.280 compared to last year, and you know, actually even going 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.760 back to like OTAs like we were fortunate enough that 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.400 we got to be more involved in that this year 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.800 and kind of be around the team. Mike McCarthy seemed 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:54.120 so happy to like, just that's why you're on a 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.199 team in the first place, right, It's like the camaraderie 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.480 and feeling like you're part of something. They didn't get 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.360 that last year, Like you know, they're on Zoom the 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.880 same way that everybody was doing that and you're not. 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.800 You know, you don't get to stop and rip a 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.640 guy about his college team or what are you know, 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.120 the basketball game last night in the hallway, like all 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.400 that little stuff that you take for granted. They didn't 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.000 get it. So no idea if it means that they're 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:19.760 going to be a better football team this year. But 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.080 I do think it's important for Mike McCarthy in terms 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.720 of like establishing his culture and the way that he 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.160 wants his team to be, and obviously the players themselves 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.320 getting to know each other. This is a great place 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.559 to do that. I promise you that. Yeah, then let 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.559 me give you an example. Like I was walking back 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:40.400 from I think I was walking back from breakfast this morning, 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.680 and I passed Randy Gregory and he's got a big 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.840 smile on his face. He goes, hey, man, kind of 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.080 gives me a little fist bump, you know, good to 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.920 see you. Yesterday when I was going to see where 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:54.320 our trailer was or where our digital media's working from 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.560 the Cowboys and Dak was going up the steps to 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:02.080 his place and he yelled, and I looked to see 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.280 who was like on my left, and then he yelled 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.880 again and he goes, no, good to see you, just 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.520 like that, right, And we didn't get that last year. 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:14.760 We never ran into people. Last year, I've run into 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.079 coaches that I've never met before. I had to introduce 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.600 myself to Dan Quinn. I introduced myself to Cedric, the 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:25.720 new assistant strength and conditioning coach, who, by the way, 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.240 the big guy but all the muscles. He was Emmet's 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.440 fullback in high school. There we go. I said, no, 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.640 wonder he had him. Yeah, no wonder he had such 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.520 a great career as Scammia. That guy is huge. I 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.760 thought he was interviewing for a nose tackle position, you know. 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.679 But we didn't see these guys. You know, we didn't 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:48.360 see anybody last year. Um Davis the assistant head coach, 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.880 you know, we were taping something before the draft and 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.640 he introduced himself. We went through this whole season and 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.720 three quarters of the coaches that were new we didn't. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.920 We didn't meet him personally. Mike McCarthy in January, didn't 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.440 see him again to November in person. So yeah, it's 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.440 it's just different. And you know, to go back to 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.160 does this make a difference. I used to hear from 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.600 people that because the Cowboys were playing on Thanksgiving, they 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.160 had as big advantage. And I would point out to 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.440 them they only had a big advantage when they were good. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.439 When they were bad, it didn't make a difference whatsoever 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.440 that they were playing at home on a short week, right, 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.440 So yeah, but it's just better. The whole atmosphere is 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.319 just better. The return to Oxnard doesn't mean we can 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.840 reserve a spot for the Lobardi Trophy at the start 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.200 just yet. No, that's not the case. However, and there 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:42.800 was a lot of talk about this throughout the press 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.240 conferences as well, But Dak Prescott is back, the offensive 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.080 line seemingly healthy. Heading into training camp, you have your 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.880 weapons returning on offense, and then of course the defensive 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:56.120 additions that make this thing kind of exciting because of course, 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.839 the last year, last year's defense historically bad. This year, 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.760 hopefully you're less than historically bad. It's not hopefully that 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:08.240 was the worst case scenario. How do things start off 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.240 on the right track for Mike McCarthy, What does he 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.360 have to do in this coaching staff? He had mentioned 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:16.520 establishing a winning culture, that's one big thing. But but Dave, 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.640 whenever you look at practice starting tomorrow. What is one 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.680 of the biggest things that Cowboys have to do to 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:23.560 get off to that hot start to ensure that they 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.720 don't have a repeat of twenty twenty. Oh well, I mean, 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:32.480 I'm this is my yearly crusade. Stay healthy, please honestly 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.400 that they gotta practice, they gotta they gotta do all that, 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:39.040 and a more nuanced ancer is especially on the Like, 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.360 I don't really care about the offense, to be honest 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.760 with you, Like, as long as everybody's healthy, that's they're good. 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:49.080 They're stay healthy. That's the you're good, They're good, They'll 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:52.120 be fine. The defense, I think you do need to 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.360 keep a close eye on that and how they compete. 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.920 Are they getting hands on footballs? Are they, you know, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:00.960 killing themselves to win every rep? Maybe even you know, 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.840 little stuff as seemingly innocuous, as like talking trash, like 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:09.120 I'm thinking about Micah Parsons front and center and wait 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.400 to showing up day one to let to let this 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.800 you know, these vets know, like I'm here to compete 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.560 and to win and to to fight on every rep. 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.640 Like little stuff like that. I think that's what I 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:21.440 think of when I think of a culture, and you 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.840 can do that out here, and it's important and I 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.880 think people will rally to that. But my baseline answer 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.160 is always just keep keep everybody, keep the important guy's 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.560 healthy for three weeks while we're out here. That's the keys. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.040 As I wrote on Friday, it's the old Brad Sham thing. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:36.640 We go to training camp to see who's going to 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.680 get hurt, right, and look at the Rams right there 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.440 slamming on that and on the wood they they lose 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:48.000 their running back Cam Akers right torn achilles, And yeah, 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.640 you just can't. There's not enough depth these days to 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:55.280 get through that many key injuries to key players. I 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:59.400 think Jerry or Stephen talked about it about their top 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.760 ten players or top ten paid players. You got to 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.640 have those guys. You got to have those guys on 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.960 the field. And last year half of them weren't on 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:14.960 the field. So um, yeah, I here here's my deal 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.960 with the defense. Can they just be average? I'm not 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.160 asking for top ten. Just you know, they were eleventh 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.360 the year before, by the way, when it came to 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.760 total yards. Uh, can they just be average? Because they 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:31.160 were pitiful and and and they couldn't they couldn't. The 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:35.000 offense couldn't compensate for how bad the defense was, you know, 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.960 And somebody said, well, yeah, Wellen Dac was there. They 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.600 only went two in three, and I said, yeah, they 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:42.880 averaged thirty two points a game while the defense had 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.200 given up thirty six in those first five games. Turnovers 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.680 certainly didn't help with that either. Well yeah, but still 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:52.760 you scored thirty two, Okay, thirty six. On the other side, 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:54.760 they didn't stop just because you turned the ball over. 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.800 The defense doesn't have to say, okay, next play, go score, right, 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.920 and that happened. So yeah, dan Quinn's gotta make a difference. 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.720 And it's not just dan Quinn. Think about this from 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:09.400 a defensive staff standpoint. He's he's now the defensive line 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.600 coach too. By the way, you know they brought in 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.640 the specialty. Yeah, they brought in Adam Dird, but he's 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.680 kind of just gonna be the overseer while he's doing 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:21.520 the whole thing. They they they've moved George Edwards to 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:25.000 the linebacker coach. You know, that's it's kind of unspoken, 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:29.600 but when you watch kind of running things right, all right, 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.720 And then they bring in Joe Witt Junior for the secondary. 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:37.280 So they're three key guys on that defense for really, 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.760 Uh that it's gonna change. Can they make a difference? Well, 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:44.000 they better hope they do. Uh. And just listening to 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:48.720 the players in the offseason, dan Quinn's a hit already 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:54.200 and they look organized. You know this time last year defense, 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:58.520 the linebackers weren't calling out plays right, They weren't telling guys, hey, 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.640 move there, move here. They were and that in the 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:05.000 OTAs that didn't happen last year. That was a lost defense, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.160 meaning guys didn't know what they were supposed to do. 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.400 A lot of the problems they had. Somebody asked me 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.760 about the secondary. You know, can the defensive line help 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.960 out a secondary that struggled? I said, well, they can't 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.680 help him from missing assignments, and they missed assignments last year. 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.800 It was just get beat physically, okay, but when you 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:25.760 don't know where you're supposed to be or who you're 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:29.640 supposed to cover, that's just awful. And that's happened too 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:33.120 much last year. So defense, can you be average? When 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.520 the question was asked to Mike McCarthy on the podium 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.960 about how much improvement he's already seen from his defense 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.800 and how improved he thinks they could be. That was 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.040 one of the conversations he had as well. I need 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.680 the defensive line to be up to part of what 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.920 we're putting out there. On the offensive line. There needs 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:51.960 to be competition. Last year, I remember we were talking 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.800 about it, and every time that the offensive line was 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.120 banged up, the defensive line had success. But whenever the 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.280 offensive line had their top five guys out there, even 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.240 though that was only for pretty much a snap or 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.760 two the defense, the line had no success. And you've 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:06.840 got to have a little bit of competition. Camp is 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.000 where that thing starts, and I think that we're going 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.159 to see more of that. Maybe that's a dan Quinn effect. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.320 Maybe that's the effect of having Randy Gregory in for 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:17.200 an entire offseason. He was talked about a lot during 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.360 the press conference. Do you think those guys can have 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.920 that much of an impact to maybe try and even 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.520 the playing surfaces between the trenches. I mean I do. 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.520 I don't say this to sit on the fence, but 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.120 like that's why we're here, right yeah, I mean exactly. 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.760 And I was just about to say, and this is 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:33.480 this happens all the time, and I get it. It 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.960 goes with the territory. But I'll sit here and say 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.959 a lot of people in the building are really excited 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.800 about what Randy Gregory can do having had a full offseason, 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.520 and I am too for that matter. Neville Gallimore is 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.480 another name that you will hear a lot. Obviously came 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.240 on really strong in the second half of his rookie year. 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.760 The coaches are excited about the potential that he could 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.359 make a leap and become this fantastic defensive tackle. And 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.560 again I'm excited about that too. I got really excited 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.680 about Malie Collins every summer. Also, like I've done I've 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.920 done this before and that's all so so we're here 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:08.600 for I'm here to watch and see if they can 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.080 because like on paper, there's a lot of reasons to 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.920 be excited. But will I be shocked if it's mid 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.800 October and I'm like, they're not a whole lot, They're 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:20.240 not a whole lot better than they were last year. No, 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.919 that that shouldn't surprise anybody. But that's gonna be the 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.200 fun part about the next five six weeks is finding 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.679 out just where they stand in that on that scale, 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.719 and there's gonna be competition because if you look at 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:36.320 this defense. What's set in stone going the adgdressers and 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:42.080 about it, maybe Treyvon Diggs maybe yeah, I mean say yes, 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.720 but yeah, so that's not as secure as the adgere. 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.760 So that's three spots that there's eight more that I 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.320 think there's a lot of competition, and that includes the linebackers. Right, 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.520 nothing's given to Layton Vanderessh and Jalen Smith. They're going 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.679 to have to earn what they get. I bet if 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.320 we pulled, you know, if we pulled all the people 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.919 that we work with, I'm just coming up with content 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.320 ideas right here on the air, we'd probably come up 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:08.760 with ten different starting elevens. Maybe only slightly, maybe only slightly, 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.400 but like you know, oh easy. Yeah. So I mean 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.960 that's a really good point, man. It's good. Good for competition, 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.120 that's what you want out here. And the other thing 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.680 I think I pointed out last week was the fact 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:22.000 that with these new defensive coaches, you know when you 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.760 were a kid and you were playing whatever, say it 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.520 was little league, and you got a new coach that year, 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:29.760 where everybody was jacked up to show the new guy 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.720 what you can do, right because he didn't know. And 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.880 these new guys come in here with no preconceived notions. 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.639 So you better not have a bad day, you know, 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.360 you better, Jordan Lewis, you know, don't have two bad 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.680 days in a row because they get another corner they'll 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:46.679 put in the slot. So I think that's good for 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.879 this this whole deal. Now the other good thing. And 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:53.000 you know what, we probably went fifteen minutes in the 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.639 in the beginning of the press conference talking about the 0:19:56.680 --> 0:20:01.320 Cowboys vaccination, right, and you know the way Jerry put it, 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.200 he said, it's only a handful of guys. Now, last 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.240 thing that came out was seventy percent of the ninety 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:11.160 man roster vaccinate. There's an important designation there, Jerry said, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.800 there's a handful of guys that have done nothing, like 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.280 a handful of R five guys are less that have 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:21.160 not committed, not done anything. And Stephen Jones actually made 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.200 the really good point. You know, getting vaccinated, it's like 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.360 a five week process, like shot, two weeks shot, blah 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.480 blah blah. Exactly. It takes some time. So and we 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:32.280 don't know the number. I will probably never know the 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:36.960 full number. And that's that's fine. But so now, but 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:38.800 so you know, there's a certain number of guys that 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:40.560 have gotten one shot but not both. There's a certain 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:42.359 number of guys that have probably gotten two shots but 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:46.200 aren't through their two week period of waiting. But man 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.199 for Jerry Jones to say that only five guys on 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:53.120 a ninety man roster have done nothing, and he kind 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:55.320 of intimated too that he thinks that number will go 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.560 down as well, Like as we go through this, he 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:00.720 thinks some of that handful will start to do stuff 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:04.200 to give back inconvenience. That's what I'm saying. Not being 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.480 vaccinated would be enough incentived. The minute I would run 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:10.119