1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Judge. Hi, guys, 2 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of to Teas and a Pod 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: with myself, Teddy Mellencamp. 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: And Tamra Judge. 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 3: And we are so excited. 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: This is an exciting day. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 4: Who's our guest today, Andy Cohen, no other than the 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 4: King of Bravo. 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: I was going to say, are you one of the 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: housewives that call him big Daddy? 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 4: I call him I No, I don't call him daddy, 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 4: I call him Boss Saddy. 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: No, I call him boss. 14 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: Okay, so we've got Andy Cohen on. 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: We are going to ask him all of the questions 16 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: and discuss his book, The Daddy Diaries. 17 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 3: Andy has taken on the most important job of his. 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: Life, being a father to a boy and a girl, 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: and he has a lot to say about it. 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: This book is so good. 21 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Not only does he share stuff about parenthood, but he 22 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: also talks about all of us, He does, does, and 23 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: so much more. So hope that you guys enjoy this episode. Okay, 24 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: so now we're officially bringing on Andy Cohen, or, as 25 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: Howard Stern says, Andy Cohene. 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 5: Yes he does right, And Hi ladies, this is surreal. Okay, 27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 5: thank you for reading my book. I am so impressed, 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 5: especially with you. 29 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 6: Miss jeff Well. 30 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so she listened to it. I actually read. 31 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 6: It, and they both count. Both count. 32 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 4: I don't normally read books because I have a d 33 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: D so bad it's really hard. But I read this 34 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 4: book in twelve hours. It was a very easy, good yes, fun. 35 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 6: Did you like it? 36 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 2: I really did? 37 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 6: You did? 38 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: And I did? 39 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 6: I literally, I mean there. 40 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 5: Was a if you two didn't. I mean there's a 41 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 5: lot in there for the two of you. Yes, yes, And. 42 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things that I related to, 43 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: even not as an ex housewife, but the parenting stuff 44 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: and the guilt and things that come with working and 45 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: the judgment with being in the public eye. 46 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: All that's so good and we will get into that. 47 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: Ok But it's very it's very interesting to hear your 48 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: perspective of being a dad, a single gay man raising 49 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: two kids. I think that there's I mean, just open 50 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: my eyes to. 51 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 6: So much great. 52 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: Thank you, But we are going to start off. 53 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: With something that you screw with us all the time. 54 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: Okay, plead the fifth Wow, all right with a softball? 55 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: Okay, your worst watch what happens live guest ever, Well. 56 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 5: You know, Amber Rose was not up for my Shenanigans. 57 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 5: That was years ago, and Deborah Winger didn't really care 58 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 5: for me too much either. 59 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: See I told you he wouldn't say a housewife. 60 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's not. Housewives are not bad guests. I 61 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 6: will say. 62 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 5: Sometimes they'll be a I will say the shots of Sunset. 63 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 5: People used to come on and they would be so 64 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 5: amped up from being in New York that they would 65 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 5: just torch the plate like they would torch all their 66 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 5: cast members. 67 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 6: And it would be kind of unsustainable. 68 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 5: Or they'll be or there could be a housewiver or 69 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 5: of a liberty who comes on and maybe it's their 70 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 5: first appearance and they're nervous, but they never you know, 71 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 5: I always give them grace because I mean, as I've 72 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 5: said many times, it's hard to we're plucking normal people 73 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 5: into the public eye and now suddenly they're on a 74 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 5: talk show. 75 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 6: I mean, it's you know, there's no guidebook for it. 76 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 3: But in your. 77 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: Book, to just astray for a second, you said there 78 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: was one person who will never be invited back to 79 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: the club back again, which is who. 80 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 5: I can't say. I know, I can't say, it's not 81 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 5: a house definitely not. No, it's not an ex housewife either. No, No, 82 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 5: it's no one in the bravosphere. 83 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: I vaguely remember you saying years ago that Lizzie was 84 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: one of the most boring housewife guests You've had. 85 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 6: Impossibility that could be a possibility. I like her very much. 86 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 7: She's very nice. 87 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 6: She was a one or two season O Sea housewife. 88 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 4: One I think, okay, better co host for Kelly Rippa, 89 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 4: Ryan Seacrest or Mark Cusuelis and I think. 90 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 6: They're just which. 91 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, I was with Kelly and 92 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 5: Mark the other day and we talked about you. 93 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 6: Yes, we did, and. 94 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 4: I'm a week I still say, Eddie, you look just 95 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: like I said. 96 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 5: You know that the OC version of the two of 97 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 5: you are? It was it was on an interview the 98 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 5: three of us were on together. I said, you know, 99 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 5: Tamara and Eddie are the OC version and she said, 100 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 5: do you know I've never met Tamra in person? 101 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 6: And I said, you're kidding. 102 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 5: Anyway, we talked about it, so I need to set 103 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 5: that up with her. Yes, anyway, I think Mark and 104 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 5: I think they're just beginning to really figure out how 105 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 5: great this is. 106 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 6: Going to be because a husband and wife never co 107 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 6: host a show, So I think it's going to be great. 108 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: Yes, you have to marry one, okay, Anderson Cooper or 109 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: John Mayer. 110 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 5: John, Yes, yeah, dred percent. 111 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: But then who are you going to have the great 112 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 3: threesomes with? 113 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 6: I know that was kind of taken out. 114 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 4: My god, you can only host one and Housewife Reunion 115 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 4: or CNN New Year's Eve? 116 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 6: Oh wow? Oh really maybe New Years it's really fun. 117 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 3: Sober drunk? 118 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I had fun sober? Actually, did you do anything? 119 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 6: I mean maybe a nip once or twice after midnight? No? No, no, 120 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 6: imber go on TV? High never? Really? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 121 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 6: it would be bad. But you've I mean. 122 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 5: We've all, we've all, we've all had alcohol on television 123 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 5: before together. 124 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Yes, you're right, one has to go, Melissa or Teresa. 125 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 6: Well we're figuring that out right now. But I plead 126 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 6: the fifth. 127 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 5: But by the way, plead the fifth is three questions. 128 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 5: So I don't know why we're still in this game. 129 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: What happens live? The twats are very different. 130 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 2: Worst casting decision on the How Wife's ever. 131 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 6: That's interesting. 132 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 5: I would preface it by saying that there are no 133 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 5: Bad Housewife casting decisions because you learn something from each one. 134 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 5: And I will say that Quinn on Orange County season 135 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 5: maybe two, was that before your time? Okay, so that 136 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 5: was season three. Her casting had so much promise and 137 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 5: it just didn't. It was an example of someone who 138 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 5: on casting seemed. 139 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 6: Like it was going to be everything. 140 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 5: So I think the lesson there, and we always try 141 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 5: to learn from things that don't work. The lesson was 142 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 5: that you know, maybe you know you we have to 143 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 5: figure out ways so that the casting isn't the only 144 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 5: way that we have to judge someone. So now maybe 145 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 5: we'll get them together with the housewife and have them 146 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 5: shoot what we call scene work, and Tamera will very 147 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 5: kindly say, okay, I'll go to lunch with the new person. 148 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 5: We'll see how it goes work with her. And also 149 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 5: then we can also say to you, how did that 150 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 5: feel to you, Tamera? Did you like hanging out with 151 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 5: that person or whatever? 152 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 7: So yeah, but. 153 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 4: I always say, like, if you get let go after 154 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 4: the first year is not a horrible thing. It's probably 155 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: because you're just too normal. 156 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 6: It could be, or you know, it just didn't work 157 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 6: for one reason or another. 158 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: Yes, if you could pick one housewife to be your surrogate. 159 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 6: Who would it be, well, a surrogate is the carrier 160 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 6: the carrier? 161 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: Yes, Like who would you trust to well? 162 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 6: I would trust. 163 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 5: The thing is I get this a lot about the 164 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 5: housewives and which housewife would you trust a babysit? The 165 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 5: truth is I would trust every one of them. I 166 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 5: think that you all are incredible moms. And also for me, 167 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 5: one of the joys of my relationship with the housewives 168 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 5: has been becoming a dad because it's opened up a 169 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 5: whole new dialogue about parenting that I never had. And 170 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 5: it's just another way that I think we're all connected. 171 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 5: So I would trust anyone to carry my child. It's 172 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 5: an hr issue. 173 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 4: I can't think of a bigger since we're talking about this. 174 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 4: Have you ever hooked up with a watch What Happens 175 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 4: Live guest at Night? 176 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: And if so, who. 177 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 5: I haven't I've hooked up with? Now we've been on 178 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 5: fourteen years. 179 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 6: I've looked up with a bartender or two. 180 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: But not somebody you didn't fish up the company. 181 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 5: Pond No, no, no, no no. And I've never hooked 182 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 5: up with a Bravoeleberty hold on yeh. 183 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: So is tam or not considered a Bravo liberty. 184 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 6: Have we hooked up? 185 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: We hook up? 186 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 7: Never? 187 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: What about on New Year's. 188 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 6: Eve we made out? I mean sorry, well, I mean 189 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 6: is that hooking? I call hooking up boning dicks out? 190 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, hooking up is making Did you use time a 191 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: little bit? 192 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 6: By the way? You know? What's so funny? And I 193 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 6: know we're going to get to it, But I did? 194 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 6: What did I say? So? 195 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 5: I sent Tamra a copy of the book, and I said, 196 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 5: I think there's. 197 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 6: I did well because she's in it the most. 198 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 5: And I was like, there's going to be things in 199 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 5: here that you're going to have comments on. So I 200 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 5: wanted to get and with me today. 201 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 6: So I said, what was the line that I said 202 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 6: in the book? 203 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 5: I said, some over the years served in sexual chemistry 204 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 5: with some housewives. 205 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 6: And I would say, and is one of them? Yes? 206 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 6: And so I've been thinking about that. 207 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: Because who's the other ones? 208 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 6: Well, I mean that's just sensitive. 209 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not going to start naming house But then 210 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 5: I was thinking about, well, why have I Well, no, I. 211 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 6: Did name you, but then not only have I seen 212 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 6: your tits? 213 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 5: And now you're reminding me that we've made out I've 214 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 5: never made out with any other housewives. 215 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 6: I mean, it's kind of a stair but we know 216 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 6: a long time. 217 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: But the worst part is that when it went right 218 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: off of I've never made out with a bra of celebrity, right. 219 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 5: No, I said I've never hooked up. I just our 220 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 5: definition of hooking. 221 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: I don't think hook up is making. 222 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: It's like how Edwin calls Edwin calls blow jobs sex. 223 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 3: He considered that. 224 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 5: No, I think if you have an orgasm, it's sex. 225 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: To mesolute. 226 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 5: Doing a good enough job even if you have an orgasm. 227 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 3: I know, but you could have an orgasm. 228 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: But does he always have an orgasm when you blow him? 229 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 3: Yes? 230 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: Well, if I I got to do a better job 231 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: than well, I learned a trick. 232 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: I'll teach it to you later. 233 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: No, you're the model. 234 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 235 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: Okay, So final plead, the fifth is a celebrity question. Well, 236 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: so we like to keep you guessing celebrity that you've 237 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: gone on a date with or. 238 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: Slept with. 239 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 6: Lance pass you slept Do. 240 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 4: You know that we know that you know that Teddy 241 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 4: slept with Matt Damon. 242 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: I did well, thanks to you, Tea, which leads me 243 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: to a point which gets us into the Daddy Diaries. 244 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: And you said in your book that you left some 245 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: things out because you had horror about been reading it. 246 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 6: Yes, oh so much. 247 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's kind of like me when I 248 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: was all over every news outlet because Tamra outed I 249 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: was a particular relationship. 250 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: Well, may or may not have happened. 251 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: I didn't lie. 252 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: But how do you think you'll go about having conversations 253 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: with your kids as they get older. 254 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 5: About things that I've put out there. That's a really 255 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 5: good question. I mean, I don't know, ye too early, 256 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 5: I don't know, But I think that the answer will 257 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 5: come based on what my relationship with them is once 258 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 5: they think. 259 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: They're very young right now and it's not going to 260 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: affect them. 261 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 4: But Jennifer Lopez just came out in an article recently 262 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 4: yesterday and said that she regrets putting her children in 263 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: the public eye because now they're not known for them, 264 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: they're known as Jalo's kids. 265 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 5: Well that's why also, I feel like that's why I 266 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 5: still post pictures of Lucy. 267 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 6: I really don't post pictures of better. 268 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: I know. 269 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 5: I went the back of his head and there's a 270 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 5: picture of him in the book from the day I 271 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 5: got my Hollywood Star and that to me was kind 272 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 5: of the in my mind the last time that I 273 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 5: kind of want to post him just because of what 274 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 5: you just said. 275 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 6: I mean, I feel like, you know, I want to 276 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 6: post him every day, right, you know you have like 277 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 6: a private right. I have one. 278 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, family and friends. 279 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: You say in your book that if I had a husband, 280 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: do you think it's hard. 281 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I can't even imagine. I know how hard 282 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: it is for me. 283 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: Yea with even when my husband's traveling and he's doing whatever, 284 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: just organizing three nannies. 285 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: I do not have three nanni. 286 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 6: If you do, I have no shame. 287 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. 288 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: I do notice that that that is something that people 289 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: want to throw in your face so often. And I 290 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: could hear a tone in your book when you were like, 291 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: you almost have to justify that you have capable people 292 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: taking care of your kids while you're doing more. 293 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 5: Yes, I mean I feel like I feel like it's 294 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 5: a given that I have help. 295 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 6: I think what. 296 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 5: People don't realize. What I hope that people get from 297 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 5: the book also is how hands on I am. 298 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 6: I definitely okay, good I am. I don't have a 299 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 6: live in nanny, which is important. I was wondering, Yeah, 300 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 6: I don't. 301 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 5: I had a live in baby nurse for both Ben 302 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 5: and Lucy who was the same baby nurse, and she 303 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 5: worked for Anderson. 304 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 6: To Teresa, she's Teresa with an h and Theresa the 305 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 6: other I don't know that audio. 306 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 5: But but I want to be the only one there 307 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 5: at night as much as by the way, I hate 308 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 5: it because Lucy doesn't sleep like Ben does. But I'm 309 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 5: the one that's there, and I want them to know 310 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 5: that this is our family and I'm there and so 311 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 5: come to me, you know. Anyway, So I don't but 312 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 5: and I don't feel the need to apologize for it, 313 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 5: but I do want people to know how involved I am, 314 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 5: and I do every so often, you know. I mean, look, 315 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 5: social media is full of trolls and whatever, and I 316 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 5: get you know, and I'll hear from people being like, 317 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 5: what do you know you have nanny's whatever, But you know, look, 318 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 5: I my mornings are the time where I have three 319 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 5: hours in the morning with Ben every morning and now Lucy, 320 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 5: where I'm getting him ready for school and getting him 321 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 5: and those morning hours are kind of they can be there. 322 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: They can be touching, Yes, especially with little ones. 323 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: But even if you have help, which I do, yes, 324 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: when you are managing a busy schedule, in multiple busy schedules, 325 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: and all their classes and their sports and all the things, 326 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: and you have. 327 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 6: A job, and you have a job at a lot 328 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 6: five jobs. 329 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: But there was a part where you said, you know, 330 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: you guys were all at the park. She just stole 331 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: my life. You guys were all at the park, and 332 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: the other parents had the bathing suits and blah blah blah. 333 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: And you're like, if I had a husband, the two 334 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: of us could have tagged him, just so you know 335 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: I have a husband. My husband never would have thought 336 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: of it, right, not for a second. It was a 337 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: very eye big moment for me. 338 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 5: I you know what the thing has been for me 339 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 5: in the last year is when Lucy came. 340 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 6: I think it really changed me as a parent. 341 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 5: I felt way more in control when I had just one, 342 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 5: and then when I had two, I not only felt 343 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 5: not I don't want to say I felt out of control, 344 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 5: but I just felt your experience got a little lonelier 345 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 5: for me. I started to feel more vulnerable. And that 346 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 5: day in the park, it was like the sprinklers went off. 347 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 5: I didn't know to have a change of clothes. I 348 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 5: looked around. I'm the only single parent there, I'm the 349 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 5: only gay dad. I just felt like I was on 350 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 5: an island. And I went back to my house and 351 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 5: I cried, and I never and I cried more than 352 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 5: once about somehow it opened up. 353 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 6: It was vulnerability. It was just a trigger. 354 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 4: But it was a touching moment in the book that 355 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: you said that I feel less than almost because I'm 356 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 4: a single dad and I don't have the proper, you know, 357 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: clothing forbidd It's hot out and he wants to run 358 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: through the spring feet or whatever it was, and all 359 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 4: the other mothers were prepared. 360 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you never were prepared again at the next time, exactly. 361 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 6: Yes, Yeah, never make the same mistakes. 362 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: Everybody being a parent have no rule book or book. 363 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: But it's one of those moments that you put in 364 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: the book that I thought, oh my god, so many 365 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 4: people are going to relate to that. 366 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And at what point would you introduce somebody to 367 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: your kids? 368 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 6: You know, I don't know the answer to that. 369 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 5: I've there's a date that I went on in the 370 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 5: book that was this very random this guy who I 371 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 5: could I was like, wait a minute, this guy's a contender. 372 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 6: And then he said, oh I live I live in 373 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 6: the UK. 374 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 5: And he was leaving the next day and I was 375 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 5: coming back into town and the only time we could 376 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 5: meet was like in the afternoon, and I said, well, look, 377 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 5: I'm alone with my kids. I said, look, I'm going 378 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 5: to be in the park if you want to come 379 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 5: meet me. And so that was a first date and 380 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 5: Ben was running around playing. I was like, no, idea, 381 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 5: this is different. No, he had no idea. 382 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: Did you see him again? 383 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 6: Yes? I did. I saw him several times. 384 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: Do you still see the guy that asked for you 385 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: to post a selfie? 386 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: That was a red flag for me. 387 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 6: I know me too. I he's someone that I've known 388 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 6: for a while. 389 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 3: Is he somebody in the public eye? 390 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 6: No? 391 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, No, he was doing it because he was 392 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: obsessed with your fame? Or do you think he was 393 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: doing it because he wanted to elevate himself. 394 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 6: I don't know. I think you know. 395 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 5: And I said to him, why is this important to you? 396 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 5: Why does this And he said, I always and I've 397 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 5: known this person for a while and he said, I've 398 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 5: always got a kick out of being on your Instagram 399 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 5: like he was honest about it. 400 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: But I think or do you think he was trying 401 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: to like claim his territory. 402 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 6: No, he was not, he wasn't. 403 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 2: I felt like he was just being honest. 404 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, you talk about in the book that you 405 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 4: were petrified with monkey pox. 406 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 5: I was, Yeah, like most gay men, certainly in big cities, 407 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 5: but yeah, I was on lockdown last summer. 408 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 6: You got it. 409 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: How long did you see? 410 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 6: I got the vaccines? 411 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: And then how long after that? 412 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 4: I mean you talked about you were more afraid of 413 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 4: giving it to your children. 414 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 5: Well, that was the thing I felt like, Yeah, if 415 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 5: I was a single, yes, I was not only afraid, 416 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 5: I was put I felt like I would have been 417 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 5: in I had deep shame relating to the idea that, 418 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 5: oh my god, if I was so irresponsible as to 419 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 5: get this because it's something in my control, and then 420 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 5: I gave it to my children. 421 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 6: The shame the idea of that was very heavy to me. 422 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: And your mom wouldn't like it either, Well, my mom didn't. 423 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 6: My mom was like, what is with you that you're like? 424 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 6: Is it so hard for you? 425 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 3: I'm upset for a summer? 426 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 6: Well? 427 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 3: Right, what did you say to her? 428 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: You're like, well, I'm sexually. 429 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 6: Frustrated, right, Yes, I was very sexually frustrated. 430 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: I mean that's a long time actually when all you've 431 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: got is an oculus. 432 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 6: Thank you. 433 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: Can we please talk about the virtual porn? 434 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 6: Yes? Have you ever seen virtual real? No? 435 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: But on the private settings on my son's Yes. 436 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 4: But think twice about Cias because she's got the headphone. 437 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, smart but told on the the dinger, for 438 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: lack of a better word, comes in three D form, like. 439 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you've got the thing on, you have 440 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 5: this head thing on and then all of a sudden 441 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: there's kind of porn happening. 442 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 6: In you and you're a spectator or can you porn where? 443 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 6: Well you can't. 444 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: I mean, do you think you're a part of it? 445 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 5: Kind of think you are because if you look down 446 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 5: and it's all from different points of view. So there 447 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 5: are porn for women and there's a man who comes in, 448 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 5: and then you look down and you see the whole 449 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 5: genitalia below you. So my friend Jackie was over and 450 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 5: I put on a porn and she looked down. She 451 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, I have a dick, Like 452 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 5: she couldn't believe it. 453 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about Jackie when in the 454 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: book when you said Jackie, I thought it was Jackie 455 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: from Jersey. 456 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, I wonder how they got that close. 457 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 4: No, I didn't even know that was possibility. Now I'm 458 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 4: going to have to. 459 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: Try for sure. 460 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: When Anderson speaking about your mom and sex, Anderson brought 461 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: up that you were a top, which I am pretty obvious, 462 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: but yes, really okay, I mean yeah, but never a bottom. 463 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: Now people want to know have you ever bottomed at all? 464 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 6: People want to know that, Yes, I have, I'm a yes. 465 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: I mean haven't we all? 466 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: Haven't we all? What bottom? I mean, yeah, I've bottomed. 467 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 3: I mean I didn't go the first time, not because. 468 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 6: You wanted to discussion. 469 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, let's change this conversation. 470 00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: We might as well. 471 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 6: But sexual before, Oh this is the best. I mean, 472 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 6: this is the best. I was there for this, Tamra 473 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 6: was there for it. 474 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 3: Okay. 475 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: So for those of you guys who haven't read the 476 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: book yet, you have to read it to get all 477 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: the details. Yes, essentially, he had highly recommended that, said 478 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: he wanted to do that, said she. She she she 479 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: wanted to do a threesome with Andy and her husband 480 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: who's never been with a guy before, and then she 481 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: ends up showing up to watch what happens. 482 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: Like I didn't just show up, she had. 483 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 6: A ticket and she had said she called in the 484 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 6: radio and said. 485 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: Did you know she was showing up? 486 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 5: That yes, I did, and she was saying and I said, listen, 487 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 5: just so you know. 488 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 6: This is not gonna happen. 489 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 5: I go, not only am I on lockdown for monkey Pocks? 490 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 6: But yes, I was like, but my parents are the bartenders. 491 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 5: There was so much happening that and I already had 492 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 5: so much trauma relating to Tamra and Vicki coming on together, 493 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 5: which I thought was funny in the book because I 494 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 5: really wrote every bit of the lead up and it's 495 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 5: it's a funny. 496 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 8: Story and including Vicky text rage texting me when I'm 497 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 8: high at a Grateful Dead concert and right, but uh 498 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 8: so they came and it was so funny and I 499 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 8: love this. 500 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 6: I loved it. The Tamra was there and I love. 501 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 5: Being able to kind of share this moment with her 502 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 5: because I said to her, I go, I have to 503 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 5: tell you what's happening. Yes, I go, there's this couple here, 504 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 5: And Tamor was like her mind was so blown and 505 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 5: then she saw them and Tamra then texted me and 506 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 5: said they're still outside waiting for you, and I was 507 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 5: like what And the whole point of it is I'm gay, 508 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 5: Like that is the whole point and almost, yes, I almost, Well, 509 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 5: I did actually mess around with this couple. 510 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 6: It's in my last book, Superficial. 511 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,239 Speaker 5: My last diary book is the story of me and 512 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 5: this other couple. 513 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 6: So it is in the realm of possibility. 514 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 2: But it just but it has to feel right. 515 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 6: It has to feel right. 516 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 4: And somebody is that thirsty that they want to come 517 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 4: to you and they want to express you. 518 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 6: I appreciated, appreciate, appreciated. 519 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: No, No, Andy, no, because if she's telling me out 520 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: in the parking lot out front. 521 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 3: That's where it takes it. 522 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 6: And the husband didn't take a very conservative you know, 523 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 6: he just felt. 524 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: Like she controlled him. 525 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: Did you just see the Netflix movie, the one where 526 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: the two people from the church, the husband and wife, 527 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: and they were they were keeping a young. 528 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 6: Man, Oh, the Jerry Fall. Well, it's amazing. 529 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: I haven't seen that. 530 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so good, okay, next question, moving to a little 531 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: bit more housewives the way from Yes, why did you 532 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: choose Renna and Garcel to be at your Hollywood Walk 533 00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: of Fame or did you? 534 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 6: Well? No, I did, and it was. 535 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: It was. 536 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 5: We We just figured I had a conversation with Bravo 537 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 5: and I knew John Mayer was doing it. I wanted 538 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: there to be housewives there. I think OC might have 539 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 5: been in. Well, Beverly Hills was in production too. We 540 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 5: basically no, well no, we basically were like, we want 541 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 5: to do Beverly Hills because there, look, we talked about 542 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 5: like flying someone in or I talked about you know that, 543 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 5: you know, would it be you and VICKI I've known 544 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 5: you the longest stuff pretty much anybody. Yeah, there were 545 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 5: a lot of It meant something to me and I 546 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 5: was like, so then we I think Kyle was shooting 547 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 5: Halloween too, and so then we just thought Rinna and 548 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 5: Garcel will be right, and that's how we chose it. 549 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 3: And you also only told Kyle and one other housewife. 550 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 6: Candy, Candy that I was having that I was having another. 551 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 3: An How would you take that if a housewife didn't 552 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: want to. 553 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 5: Share open Well, a housewife is on a reality show 554 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 5: about their lives, yep, right, and I'm not And also 555 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 5: I was also really trying to keep it a secret. 556 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 5: I didn't I was keeping in a secret for the 557 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 5: privacy of my surrogate who lived in New York, and 558 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 5: I just didn't want a friend of mine had a 559 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 5: surrogate and it was known that there was a surrogate, 560 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 5: and the paparazzi started coming at the surg and whatever. 561 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 6: So I was just how did my friend no you. 562 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 2: You said that the surrogate in your book. 563 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: It ended up being. 564 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 6: Leaked that, Oh, I don't know somehow US. Yes, I 565 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 6: don't know. 566 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 3: Do you think it was the same leak that said 567 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 3: that you were fired from CNN? 568 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 6: That was just Radar online making shit up. 569 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 3: But wasn't making sure up when they said I was fired, 570 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 3: because it happened the. 571 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 6: Next well, but the US Weekly thing they found out 572 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 6: that I was. 573 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I just didn't want I was really nervous 574 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 5: it would be something that I would tell everyone. I 575 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 5: told everyone the first time, like six weeks before, because 576 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 5: I was just so excited. 577 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 6: And I wanted to and I'm so glad I did 578 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 6: this one. 579 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 5: I wanted to keep undercover and I don't know how 580 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 5: it came up with Kyle and Candy, but. 581 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: It did, and did you use the same egg donor. 582 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 6: They are biological siblings. 583 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 3: That's so awesome. And I do think that Lucy's gonna 584 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 3: have blue eyes. 585 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 6: She is the surrogate. The carrier is different because. 586 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: It's yes, exactly difference. You said in your book. That 587 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: is the Lucy is one of. 588 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 6: The first baby be a surrogate in New York. I 589 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 6: worked really hard to get I was illegal in New York. 590 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 4: Wid you told me that at your be showers, and 591 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 4: I was very shocked to hear that in New York, 592 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 4: a man. 593 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 6: You couldn't do that. Stunning as anyone couldn't do it. 594 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 6: It was illegal, right, And. 595 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: Then something that I actually was a little bit confused 596 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: about when I was listening to the book and also intrigued. 597 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 6: I love this, by the way. I love it that 598 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 6: you both read this book. 599 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: And you are I love that you know this is 600 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 2: the most nerve wracket interview. 601 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 3: We both were like, all right, we got we got 602 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 3: a team. 603 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: Really, I really appreciate that for me would have been Candy. Okay, 604 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 2: Candy was really hard interview because she she's so media worldwide. 605 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 3: She's a full sweat. 606 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was hard. She was hard. 607 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: But throughout the book you'll be like, oh, I was 608 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: taking notes tonight on the O C or this right, 609 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: How involved are you at this point? Because sometimes you'll 610 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: hear you say impressed, or maybe it's clicked by like oh, 611 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't have anything to do with that, or I 612 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: didn't know this person was getting fired or that. 613 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 6: But then with the Housewives, I do. 614 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 3: But Housewives it's everything, yes, not the other show. 615 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 6: The other shows I am not. 616 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 5: I was an EP on vander Pump Rules for the 617 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 5: first maybe eight seasons. 618 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 6: I left when I was in charge of programming and 619 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 6: development at Bravo. 620 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 5: I was an EP of every show on Bravo. When 621 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 5: I when Watch What Happens, I became five days a week. 622 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 5: I stayed and was had still head of development at Bravo, 623 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 5: and we developed Below Deck was one of the last 624 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 5: shows that was Our team did maybe Southern Charm, and 625 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 5: then I left. And when I left my day job 626 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 5: at Bravo, I retained EP on all the Housewives. So 627 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 5: I give notes on every episode of every Housewives show, 628 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 5: and they can my notes have gotten way less. I 629 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 5: look at a later cut now of episodes, and the 630 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 5: later the cut, the. 631 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 6: More finished it is, and so it will. 632 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of times my notes are about 633 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 5: I don't understand that person's motive. 634 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 6: Why did she You know, I'll say, why did Tamera 635 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 6: say that? If that's her friend? 636 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: Why one more interview we need? 637 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 5: Yeah exactly? Or the music is it right? Or this 638 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 5: next on is boring? Or change the teas, or there's 639 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 5: a thousand things. 640 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: That I call because something I related to in that 641 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: in your book is when you kept saying you would 642 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: have moments, even with your kids or life, where you'd 643 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: get frustrated and you're like, I have this rage or 644 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: this anger or whatever, and then I pull it together 645 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: and then I'm the nicest human being ever, and the 646 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: person at the sandwich shop would be like the hostess 647 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: exactly all But what is your patient's level when it 648 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: comes to watching housewives? 649 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 5: Because I know now that we are watching Housewives, my 650 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 5: patience level is great, But because I actually still love 651 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 5: the show and it makes me so happy. 652 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 6: Like with o C, I've been and it's part of 653 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 6: the reason why I was. I was. You know, everyone 654 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 6: for so many months was like, where's the trailer, Where's 655 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 6: the trailer? The season must suck. They're doing something here. 656 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 5: I am, you know, and we're so ahead of the 657 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 5: edit schedule because I think the air date wound up 658 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 5: getting moved. 659 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 6: I think it originally was going to be earlier and 660 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 6: then it was later. So here I am deep into 661 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 6: the season and loving it for so many reasons. 662 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: You love it? 663 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 6: Yes, Oh, I love it. It's great. It feels like 664 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 6: a return to Fred. 665 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 3: You're able to answer what your favorite franchise is. 666 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 6: No, because they're all they. 667 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: It's true that you have they flow different, they do. 668 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 5: Listen sometimes if a season of the Housewives is having 669 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 5: an off season, I may it will be a bummer 670 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 5: for me because I just want them all to be 671 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 5: as successful as they possibly can, and I want every 672 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 5: housewive to be as success. 673 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: Can we talk about New York a little bit? 674 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know a lot of shows you know 675 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 4: have good seasons have been Yes, But what was your 676 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 4: final decision decision? Because you say you're on a plane, 677 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 4: you're making an email or something like that, saying. 678 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: I have a great idea. Yes, it's a great idea. 679 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: We're going to do a legacy. 680 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 6: We're going to write what why it was New York? 681 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: It was that bad? 682 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 6: Well? 683 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 5: No, I think New York was in flux. There was 684 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 5: a question of of the current cast. Look, I don't 685 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 5: want to relitigate why that season didn't work. It was 686 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 5: shot during COVID, there were only five housewives, like it's 687 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 5: to and by the way, right, okay, Well, I would 688 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 5: also argue that it was not as bad as people 689 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 5: you know, like to say that that season of Ronnie. 690 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 6: But I think that it was. 691 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 5: Really at a crossroads in terms of Also there was 692 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 5: clearly a mandate to. 693 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 6: Diversify and represent a more realistic or more current. 694 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 5: Version of what New York is. And we have tried 695 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 5: for so many years to to bring it, yes, but 696 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 5: also to bring some color into New York. And you 697 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 5: can ask the you know, we were always saying to 698 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 5: lu Anne, like, you know, who are your friends of color? 699 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 5: And we were putting people on tape and there were 700 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 5: there were a few very high profile people. One with 701 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 5: someone that Bethany knew and someone that I knew socially 702 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 5: who years ago we almost got and then her husband 703 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 5: kaibashed its no no, but but anyway, we were just 704 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 5: at a major crossroads with Ronie and it felt like 705 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 5: bringing new people in to this. 706 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 6: The women have so much. 707 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: History and it just felt sexy trailer I have to do. 708 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 5: But anyway, so getting back to that, it just felt 709 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 5: like it felt dishonest to even try anymore than to 710 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 5: do anything but tell the story of these five women 711 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 5: who just were who they were. 712 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 6: And so that's why I thought, well, let's do too. 713 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: Do you think that there's gonna be legacy for other 714 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: shows that this works out? 715 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 6: I don't know. I had wanted. I had wanted to 716 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 6: do OC legacy on Peacock a couple years ago. 717 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 5: I talked about it with Sherry Levine and she was 718 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 5: very worried that it would take away from Orange County 719 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 5: as it is right now. 720 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 6: And I think if you look, and I think. 721 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 5: Now, if you look at the fact that you and 722 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 5: Heather are back on Orange County, I think that's and 723 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 5: that Vicky's around, I think that's a really good argument 724 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 5: for not doing OC legacy, you know, And I think so. 725 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 6: I like the idea in a sense, but also, you 726 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 6: don't want to take. 727 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 5: Away from what I would call the mothership, which is 728 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 5: the Real Housewives of Orange County, and I love that 729 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 5: show to its core. 730 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 6: I wouldn't want anything to take away from that lot 731 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 6: of fun. 732 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 5: Yes, and I think it's I think with Rony it's 733 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 5: easier if you're saying, Okay, we're gonna do a totally 734 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 5: nor version. 735 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 6: It's a let's let's swim. Does what worry me? 736 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 4: Having a brand new cast and because like it was 737 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 4: a little rough for a little bit with Bai, Yeah, 738 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 4: I mean, by the way, Dubai season two is so good. 739 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 6: I could get goosebumps thinking about how good it is. 740 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 6: So I think, does it worry me? Of course? Of 741 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 6: course it does. 742 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 5: It's so hard you're introducing six new women, and you know, you, 743 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 5: when you're watching it, you're like, but wait a. 744 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 6: Minute, were's lou Anne. 745 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: You know? 746 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 6: So it does. But actually they so stand on their 747 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 6: own and they're so legit. 748 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 5: What I want is I just hope that people will 749 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 5: not discount it based on one episode. 750 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 6: You you've gotta go on the ya season two and 751 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 6: then season two when it. 752 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 5: Really gels and they know because you know, you, you know, 753 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 5: people kind of become housewives in a weird way. 754 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:10,959 Speaker 6: Well now, I mean I would. 755 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 5: I am. Caroline Stanbury and chanel Ian were born housewives. 756 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean they just do you know all the fights 757 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: we created in Bravocon between the Dubai Housewives speak for yourself. 758 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 3: Oh you were that, you were a part of it too. 759 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: I mean it was a lot, so I can only 760 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: imagine it's going to be an explosive season. 761 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 6: It's really good. 762 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 3: The conversations I had with Chanel and Carolyn Brooks. 763 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 5: Yes, well, I'm very excited about that. But also I'm 764 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 5: really excited about Ronnie. I think it's I think it's great, 765 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 5: and I think the other children. I'm excited. 766 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 6: You're gonna die when you see Luanna and Sonya. Welcome 767 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 6: to Crappy Lake. Is so funny. It airs in July. 768 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 6: It is and by the way, I have nothing to 769 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 6: do with it. It is so funny. 770 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 5: I laughed out loud. So and I'm not a big 771 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 5: laugh out loud guy. I was howling at this show. 772 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, she is. 773 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you see that being in the future for 774 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 4: other like let's take I don't, no, I don't know, 775 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. 776 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,479 Speaker 3: I'm not like Vicky. 777 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 4: I don't have jealousy of a question about So this 778 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 4: has nothing to do with your book question. Yes, so 779 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 4: Real House of New York. 780 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 2: They already have commercials on Bravo and they are two 781 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 2: months from area. 782 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 6: You're asking why there aren't. 783 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 5: I think because this is a brand new show completely, 784 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 5: we have to introduce six new women. We have to 785 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 5: get people's head around the idea that this is. You know, 786 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 5: I know, but you've you know, you're you promote yourself, 787 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. 788 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,479 Speaker 2: So that's why I knew that was gonna be your answer. 789 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, well then you know, but I just wanted to know, 790 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 6: And then I wanted. 791 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: To know who would you say, of all time, your 792 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: favorite house husband and your least favorite house husband talk 793 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: about the house husband's much in the. 794 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 5: Book, No, I don't my I mean, I think Joe 795 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 5: Gorga has always been very funny on the show. 796 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 6: He just cracks me up. 797 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 7: Uh. 798 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 5: And I think that the husband of Amber, who was 799 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 5: on the one bad season of Jersey. It was that 800 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 5: transition season with the twins and Amber her. 801 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 3: Husband had the issues on the plane. Not a good 802 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's worse some Brooks. 803 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 6: I mean, Brooks was not really a husband. 804 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 3: By the way. He's remarried. We just learned good. 805 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 4: So talking about Miami, we were talking about them minute ago. 806 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 4: What made you guys decide to put him back on Bravo? 807 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't think it matters, and people 808 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 6: were like, yay, we won, it's back on Bravo. I'm like, 809 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 6: who cares where it is? No, I mean they didn't. 810 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 3: I don't know. I like streaming better. 811 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, right, I do too. 812 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 5: Actually, I was like, why are we Yeah exactly, so 813 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 5: you know, you'll obviously still be able to watch it 814 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 5: on Peacock. 815 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 6: But I I was, uh, I don't know. 816 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 2: Do you think Housewives will eventually go to Peacock? 817 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't think it matters. 818 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 2: So what is it now? 819 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 6: So they air on and then I think the next day, yeah, 820 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 6: I think so. 821 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 822 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: But when we talk you talked a lot about not 823 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: a lot, but you talked about marysol a little bit 824 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: about how much you like her and when you came 825 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: to Miami she's the person that you were. 826 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: But then I was wondering. I was like, if he 827 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 3: likes her so much? 828 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 6: Because we wanted to. 829 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 5: We felt strongly that if we brought it back, we 830 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,959 Speaker 5: wanted you. You want people to connect with the show 831 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 5: that they loved, the nostalgia of the show that they loved, 832 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 5: But you're trying to build a show that will last 833 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 5: for the future, and so you need as much new 834 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 5: blood as possible, and we that. 835 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 6: Was the call we made. 836 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 5: And I think the more people on any show the 837 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 5: better in a sense. And also it just seemed like, yeah, 838 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 5: I just think and you know, Marisol has said that 839 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 5: she felt so much lighter as a friend, she felt 840 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 5: less responsibility. 841 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 6: She could come in and out. 842 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 2: She is, but we're not to admit I thought about 843 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 2: coming back as a friend. 844 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, it's like it it's there is a 845 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 5: pressure off of you when you come out as a friend. 846 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 5: And I thought it's one of the reasons why I 847 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 5: think Vicki works so well this season. She can drop in, 848 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 5: she can be herself, she can leave. 849 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 4: It's not Do you think maybe we can have her 850 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 4: back next year as a friends? 851 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 6: I think yes. 852 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 2: I think she's really good as a friend. 853 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 3: I do too. 854 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 6: I wonder what she yeah, exactly. 855 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 3: Next question, which is. 856 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: There's a couple Housewives that we've heard say I'll never 857 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: film with this person again. And we just saw the 858 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: article I think it was on People magazine. 859 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 5: Says that you know how that works because it's never 860 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 5: really worked on Housewives. Rules is not the Housewives, and 861 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 5: I'm not an EP of that show, so I have 862 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 5: nothing really, you know, it's I'm sure they're all talking 863 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 5: about that right now. 864 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 6: But I think with the Housewives, it doesn't work. It 865 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 6: never worked. You know, we had we had a situation 866 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 6: with I remember on early there were early Rony situations 867 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 6: where it was like I won't be with this person, 868 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 6: and it's like, well you don't and. 869 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: You're not on the show group yeah, because we had 870 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: we had Marisol and Alexia Alexia Alexia on and they 871 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: said they refused to film with Adriana, and I was like. 872 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 3: I think that's bullshit, right, I think, like I like, 873 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 3: show up and go or don't be on the show. 874 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 4: Right, Well, you can maybe go into it that season 875 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 4: thinking you're not going to, but eventually you have to. 876 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I mean it's inevitable that you have to, right, 877 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 2: you have to. 878 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: All Right, y'all, this is so good. We've decided we're 879 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: going to make it a two parter and we come back. 880 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: We're going to discuss camera