1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is verdict for Senator Ted Cruz. Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: with you as always, Senator, We've got a lot to 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: talk about, including this second IRIS whistleblower coming forward and 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: telling his story at a very shocking place. We're going 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: to tell you about that in a moment. Also, would 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: you have ever imagine that a big presidential campaign would 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: be launched on social media? Ronda Santis said exactly that. 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: We'll talk about how unique that is. And Target they're 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: going looken, well, they're they're going broke. Target has lost 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: eight to nine billion dollars, they say, in the week 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: following the calls for a boycott over their Gay Pride 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: LGBTQ plus Friendly Kids clothing and propaganda. Senator, let's start 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: with this Iris whistleblower. You and I were talking before 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: the show. It's interesting that he's come forward. It's also 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: very interesting where he did his sit down interview. Let's 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: talk about that. 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: Well, it's quite stunning. 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: CBS News put him front and center, interviewed him on camera, 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: and he's making serious allegations. He's making serious allegations that 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: the Biden Department of Justice is slow walking, is blocking 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: the investigation of Hunter Biden. One of the consequences of 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: those allegations is, if that's true, it means Merrick Garland 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: lied under oath. And I got to say, listening to 24 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: this interview on CBS takes your breath away. Give a listen. 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 4: When I took control of this particular investigation, I immediately 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 4: saw it was way outside the norm of what I've 27 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 4: experienced in the past. 28 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 5: Gary Shapley is a supervisory special agent for the IRS. 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: Where he's worked for fourteen years. 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 5: In January twenty twenty, he was assigned to what he 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 5: calls a high profile investigation. Who's the subject of the investigation? 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: I can't confirm or deny the subject of this investigation. 33 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 4: Why not because you know part of the tax secrecy 34 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 4: laws don't allow it. 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 5: Shapley can't say it. But CBA News has learned the 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 5: investigation was the probe of Hunter Biden by the Trump 37 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 5: appointed US attorney in Delaware. Senior Biden administration officials have 38 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 5: vowed to let it run its course without interference. 39 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 6: It's not restricted in his investigation in any way. 40 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 5: But CBS News has obtained this letter Shapley's lawyers sent 41 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 5: to Congress Monday, alleging irregularities in DJ's handling of the investigation. 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 5: Shapley is seeking legal protections from Congress so he can 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 5: share specifics of his allegations. 44 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 4: There was multiple steps that were or slow walked at 45 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 4: the direction of this Department Justice. 46 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 5: Had you ever encountered that before? 47 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 4: I have not known these deviations from normal process. In 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: each and every time it seemed to always benefit the subject. 49 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 5: Shapley says he decided to blow the whistle after a 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 5: heated meeting last October with federal prosecutors. 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 4: That was my red line meeting that just got to 52 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: that point where that switch was turned on and I 53 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 4: just couldn't silence my conscience anymore. 54 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: Senator, He says, he couldn't silence his conscience anymore, and 55 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: that's why he's been so brave and to come forward. 56 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: When you hear this whistlebo or speak, what comes to 57 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: mind for you initially. 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: Well that these allegations are very serious. That what he 59 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: is stating is that for the first time in his 60 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: experience of over a decade, the Department of Justice was 61 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: actively impeding an investigation, was slow walking it, and that 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: that number one reeks of political cover up, but number two, 63 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: it's it's directly contrary to what Merrick Garland has said. 64 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: And you know, one of the things that Merrick Garland 65 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 3: is fond of saying, and that that gets repeated a lot, 66 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: is that the person doing this investigation is the quote 67 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: Trump appointed US attorney in Delaware with that that individual 68 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: is a person named DAVIDI. And it's true he was 69 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: appointed by Donald Trump. He had previously been the acting 70 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: US attorney under Barack Obama. And you know, let me 71 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: point out about how US attorneys are appointed. In order 72 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: for them to go through, you have to get the 73 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: sign off of the senators from that home state. Delaware 74 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 3: has two Democrat senators, which means is a practical matter, 75 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: the Democrat senators in Delaware picked this US attorney. And 76 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: so the phrase the Trump appointed US attorney suggests that 77 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: he's a Republican, that he somehow might be out to 78 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 3: get the Bidens. There is zero, in fact less than 79 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: zero evidence that's true. But if what this whistleblower is 80 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: alleging is accurate, then his investigation was actively slow walking 81 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: the investigation of Hunter Biden. And one of the things 82 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: striking is that means that the Attorney General testified falsely 83 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: to the Senate Judiciary Committee in response to questions, I 84 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: asked him directly. 85 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: I want people to hear exactly that back and forth. 86 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: Take a listen to this. 87 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: It occrues, Thank you, mister Chairman General Garland. The Department 88 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: of Justice should enforce the law regardless of politics. I 89 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: do not believe that has been what is happening in 90 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: the last two years, among other things, I believe you 91 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: very much want to indict Donald J. Trump. Toward that end, 92 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 3: the Department of Justice has leaked that DOJ is investigating 93 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: and intends to indict Hunter Biden. The purpose of those leaks, 94 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 3: I believe, was to set the predicate for an indictment 95 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: of Trump, to say, look how even handed we are. 96 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: We're indicting A Biden. We're indicting a Trump. Those leaks 97 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: are not law or enforcing the law. They are politics. 98 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: Did you know about the leaks about the Hunter Biden investigation. 99 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 6: I don't know about the leak that you're talking about, 100 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 6: and I'm not leaks are in violation of our regulations 101 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 6: and our requirements. 102 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: So the answer is the leaks are consistently on one 103 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 3: side of the aisle, advancing one political agenda. As you know, 104 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: the FBI raided Donald Trump's mar Lago home, and subsequent 105 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: to that raid, there have been multiple leaks about what 106 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: was discovered there, including a photograph of documents that were 107 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 3: discovered there. Did you know about the leaks? 108 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 5: Rate? 109 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 6: The photograph was a filing in court in response to 110 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 6: a motion filed by mister Trump. It was not a leak. 111 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: So you're testifying there haven't been leaks about the Trump 112 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: rate investment. 113 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 6: I'm responding to the point about that. 114 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: You know about the leaks that have occurred because the. 115 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 6: Leaks, they are inappropriate. We also don't know where they 116 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 6: come from witnesses on the well. 117 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: What's interesting is when the shoe was on the other foot. 118 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: I believe your intention, and I believe it's a political 119 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: intention to indict President Trump became infinitely harder when classified 120 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: documents were discovered repeatedly at President Biden's multiple residences. According 121 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: to the public record, those were first discovered on November two, 122 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: six days before the prior election. Department of Justice was 123 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: notified on November fourth, and yet miraculously, there was no 124 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: leak about the classified documents at President Biden's home when 125 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: it politically benefited The effort to go after and charge 126 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. DOJ leaked when it potentially harmed the Democrat president. 127 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: DOJ did not leaked. Does that strike you as at 128 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: all a double standard? 129 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 6: Weeks under all circumstances are inappropriate, and they were not 130 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 6: directed by anyone in the justice. 131 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: Let me say, in particular on Hunter Biden, I very 132 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: much hope that an investigation of Hunter Biden is focused 133 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: not just on his own personal substance of abuse issues, 134 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: but on connections to his father and potential corruption. That 135 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: is the matter of public concern and why people are concerned. 136 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: It was striking that the leak that came out from 137 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: DJ suggested this is just going after some poor, poor 138 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: person struggling with drugs instead of looking at the very 139 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: real evidence of corruption. Will you commit that the investigation 140 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: will actually examine the public corruption aspect and not simply 141 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: scapegoat Hunter Biden as an individual. 142 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 6: I can't comment about the investigation other than to say 143 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 6: that all the matters involving mister hunter Biden are in 144 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 6: a purview of the US Attorney in Delaware. It's not 145 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 6: restricted in his investigation in any way. 146 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 3: Well, you don't comment here, but then you leak at 147 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: the same time Senator. 148 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: Holy Senator, ask you a pretty simple but one question. 149 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: Did he lie to you? 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Did he lie to you? 176 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: And did he lie to Congress? 177 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: Well, if what the whistleblower is saying is accurate, then 178 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: Merrick Garland, in all likelihood gave false testimony to Congress. Now, 179 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: whether it's a lie depends on two things. Number One, 180 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: his knowledge at the time. It is possible that he 181 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: believed what he was saying was true even though it 182 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,599 Speaker 3: was false. There should be an investigation. If he knowingly 183 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: gave false testimony, that's a lie. That is also a felony. 184 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: Because his testimony began with his raising his right hand 185 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: and taking an oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, 186 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: and nothing but the truth. Merrick Garland knows that, and 187 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: so the whistleblower's testimony strongly suggests that the Attorney General's 188 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 3: testimony was false. And I believe there should be a 189 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: serious investigation into whether it was knowingly false. 190 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: There's going to be a lot of people that are 191 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: gonna ask this question, when is there going to be 192 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: some accountability, Because when these whistleblowers come forward and they 193 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: tell their stories and we see what was really going 194 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: on behind closed doors, there are so many people that 195 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: are just so angry, Senator that I talked to you 196 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: talk to every day when you are in and around 197 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: Texas and around the country in Washington, DC, who are 198 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: saying they're sick and tired of watching these people get 199 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: away with this is Do you feel like the momentumouslowly 200 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: starting to change where there will be real and honest accountability. 201 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: Well, I think there will be accountability in the House 202 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: of Representatives. You have investigations both from Jim Jordan and 203 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: Representative Comer that are looking directly at these issues. I 204 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: think you will continue to see hearings in the House 205 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 3: of Representatives that are putting evidence before the American people. 206 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: There is more and more indication that the House may 207 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: hold Chris Ray, the Director of the FBI, and contempt 208 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: for refusing to respond to subpoenas issued by Congress, and 209 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: if the Attorney General. I expect the House of Representatives 210 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: to cross examine the Attorney General on whether he lied 211 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: and whether he knowingly lied in the Senate. I don't 212 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: expect the Senate Judiciary to do anything about it. I 213 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: think Dick Durbin and the Democrats they do not care. 214 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: They are happy for the Attorney General to cover up 215 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: the investigation of Hunter Biden. They want the Attorney General 216 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: to cover up the investigation of Hunter Biden. 217 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: They want the. 218 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 3: Department of Justice to be the political arm of the 219 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: White House. They want this DOJ to be utterly corrupt. 220 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: And look, that's a strong allegation. But if they didn't, 221 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: Dick Durbin could hold a hearing tomorrow. If they didn't, 222 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: Dick Durbin could subpoena the Attorney General tomorrow. If they didn't, 223 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: just one of the Democrats, just one of the Democrats 224 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: could muster up the mustard seeds of courage to ask 225 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: the Attorney General about it. But if you look at 226 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: the hearings, the Democrats all get in and play patty 227 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: cake with him, that they praise him, if anything, that 228 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: they urge him. Why can't you be more vigorous going 229 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: after our enemies why can't you be more vigorous going 230 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 3: after every little old lady who waved an American flag 231 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: on the mall during Januari. Those are the questions the 232 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: Democrats ask. And so if there is a Democrat senator 233 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: who gives a damn about whether DOJ is obstructing justice 234 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: and covering up criminal activity from the President of the 235 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: United States involved in corruption with foreign countries like China 236 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: and Ukraine and his son, if there's a Democrat who cares, 237 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: he or she has yet to open his or her 238 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: mouth about. 239 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: It, Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how 240 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: many more whistle blowers come forward as well, and how 241 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: so many men and women are becoming so brave now 242 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: feeling like they have a safe place to go to 243 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: conservative members of Congress to tell their stories. And this 244 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: is shocking that CBS did it. So I got to 245 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: ask you the politics of this senator CBS News doing 246 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: this interview to me, just screamed, this isn't normal, this 247 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: is odd. They've not wanted to cover any of the 248 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden scandal. Now all of a sudden, they're not 249 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: only they covering it, they're breaking news. The coveted whistle 250 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: blower were you taken aback by that? And is there 251 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: a chance The reason why they're doing this is because 252 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: they realize the Republican field is getting more crowded with 253 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: Rohnda Santis announcing as well, and they're really worried that 254 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: any of these candidates might be able to beat Joe Biden. 255 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: Well, it is fascinating that CBS ran this story, that 256 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: they focused on it, that they highlighted it. 257 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: They have had. 258 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: Little to no interest in covering the mounting evidence of 259 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: corruption in the Biden family. So this is a big 260 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: break and that decision would have been highlighted by a 261 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: network executive. That was not done by an individual reporter. 262 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: It was not done by an individual anchor. That was 263 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: done by a higher up by the suits at CBS, 264 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: by someone with authority, the head of the news division, 265 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 3: somebody with real authority made the decision greenlight thiss go 266 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: with this. That's powerful as to why I don't know, 267 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: you know, you asked about whether it is the Republican 268 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: field getting a little bit more crowded with ron De 269 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: Santis getting in the race. That could be a factor. 270 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: I have said before, so six months ago, I did 271 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: not believe Joe Biden was going to be the nominee. 272 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: I didn't think Joe Biden was going to run because 273 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: he is so obviously diminished mentally that he's not up 274 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: to it. And pretty much everyone knows that. Republicans certainly 275 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: know that, but the Democrats know that too. What changed 276 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: in the last six months it is I right now 277 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: think Biden is quite likely to be the nominee. Why 278 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: because I think right now most Democrats believe Donald Trump 279 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: will be the nominee, and Democrats who believe Donald Trump 280 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: will be the nominee also believe that if Trump is 281 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: the nominee, that they can nominate Biden and just hide 282 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: him in the basement for two years and on a 283 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: campaign about how much they hate Donald Trump. And they 284 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: believe that Biden in the basement plus their antipathy for 285 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, produces a victory on general election Day. I 286 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: do think if if the nominee, if Democrats believe the 287 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 3: Republican nominee really is anyone other than Trump, I think 288 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: the odds skyrocket that Democrats decide they want to dump 289 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 3: Joe Biden and find somebody else, because if the nominee 290 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: is someone other than Trump, it's much harder for them 291 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 3: to run a campaign on how much they hate Trump, 292 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 3: then they actually have to find a candidate who can 293 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: actually leave the basement and say something. And so whether 294 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: this is CBS network execs starting to starting to have 295 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: those knocking knees, I don't know, but it is. It 296 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: is a very interesting development and it will get more 297 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: interesting if you see more of the corrupt corporate media 298 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: following suit. 299 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's no doubt about it. I got to ask 300 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: you about the other story. Ron DeSantis has the announced 301 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: he's running for president, and yes, that's that's newsworthy. But 302 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: the way that he did it is something I could 303 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: have never imagined. You actually worked on a presidential campaign. 304 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: You've run for president as well, and I've worked on 305 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: presidential campaigns. I never could have imagined us sitting in 306 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: a room saying, hey, we should announce on social media. 307 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: Is this moving and changing? Just in proof how important 308 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: social media is. To see a candidate do it the 309 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: way that Ron DeSantis did it. Could you've ever imagined 310 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: this ten, fifteen, twenty years ago? 311 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's twin commentary Number one, the rising 312 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: importance of social media and alternative avenues of communication, and 313 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: number two a continuing indictment of the corrupt corporate media. 314 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 3: It's remarkable that there's there's certainly been no prior cycle 315 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: where when any presidential candidate would make an announcement like 316 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 3: this on social media and Twitter spaces. I'll tell you 317 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: going back to twenty eleven, when I first announced my 318 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 3: campaign for US Senate, very first time, I made that 319 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 3: announcement on a conference call with bloggers, and it was, 320 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: to my knowledge, the first time anyone had done that, 321 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: and bloggers were relatively due. And the reason I did 322 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 3: that is that there were a lot of folks who 323 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: were blogging and who were writing things, and I wanted 324 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 3: them to write about the campaign. I wanted them to 325 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: get excited about the campaign. And so it was at 326 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: the time trying to take advantage of a cutting edge 327 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 3: in the development of media and communication. I think what 328 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: Desanus did this week is similar to that, but obviously 329 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 3: the technology and communication has changed dramatically in the years 330 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 3: since then. 331 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: Now there's been a ton. 332 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 3: Of coverage on the technical glitches that the Twitter spaces, 333 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 3: that there were so many users on it that it 334 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: was delayed and glitchy and didn't work very well. And 335 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: look that I am sure Elon Musk has decapitated more 336 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: than a few people at Twitter because that was not 337 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 3: a good moment for Twitter. That that was a high 338 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: profile moment for Twitter as an avenue for communicating to 339 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of people simultaneously. But I am quite 340 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 3: confident this will not be the last campaign launched in 341 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 3: this format. And it's striking that it wasn't launched on 342 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 3: a TV show. It wasn't launched on Fox News, which 343 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 3: I think Fox News was less than happy about. It 344 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 3: wasn't launched in a big rally. When I launched my 345 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 3: campaign in twenty fifteen, I did so at Liberty University 346 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: in an auditorium with about ten thousand students, and that 347 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: was that that was a fantastic place to launch it 348 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 3: and and energizing to be surrounded by a crowd. Uh, 349 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: And and that that's how I chose to launch it 350 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 3: years ago. This reflects that that technology is moving, communication 351 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: is moving. But it also reflects, presumably that a Santus 352 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 3: campaign believing they wouldn't get a fair shake from much 353 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 3: of the traditional media and so trying to cut out 354 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: the middleman and go straight to the voters. And I 355 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 3: think you'll see a lot of that. It also reminds 356 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: me in six or in twenty sixteen, Trump's use of 357 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: social media was cutting edge. It was he would put 358 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: out tweets that would drive the news cycle in a 359 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 3: way that had never happened before, and it changed how 360 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 3: people communicate through his use of Twitter. I'll say, actually, 361 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 3: in response, among other things, to the glitches on the announcement, 362 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 3: the Trump campaign put out a mock Twitter spaces with 363 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: featuring the Santus and Mosque, but also featuring people like 364 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: the Devil and eight Off Hitler. And I got to say, 365 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: whoever the writer was, it was funny as hell. So 366 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 3: it was clever how they mocked it. And I think 367 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: you're going to see an awful lot more humor and mockery, 368 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 3: probably on both sides. But you're right, this was a 369 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: milestone in terms of communications and how candidates communicate with 370 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: the voters. 371 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: I also think it also shows us from the Twitter files, Senator, 372 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: just how important social media is to driving Americans viewpoints 373 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: and opinions and views. We have seen that in a 374 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: topic we're going to talk about in a minute with Target. 375 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: We've seen that that's happened with bud Light. But it 376 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: also shows you how important the Democrats understood Twitter and 377 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: Facebook to be when they were meeting with them on 378 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: the regular, trying to influence the news and what people 379 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: were seeing. And then you see somebody like DeSantis use 380 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: the platform to announce the president to run. It's like, yeah, 381 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: it's because we're we all know how important this medium is. 382 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: And the Democrats are cooking the books for years against conservatives, 383 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: silencing and censoring conservatives, and they want us to act 384 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: like it wasn't a big deal when clearly it was. 385 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: Well, that's right. 386 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 3: And let me say there's also an avenue of social media, 387 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 3: which is that it drives traditional media. I cannot tell 388 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 3: you how many times if there's a topic that I 389 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: want to engage on, I'll pull out my phone and 390 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: send a tweet, and within minutes you can see people 391 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: reporters who follow Twitter. If the tweet is on a 392 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 3: topic of a public concern and something they care about, 393 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 3: you can see stories written I've typed out tweets and 394 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 3: within ten minutes seeing them on the TV on Fox 395 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: News the tweet that I just typed on my phone. 396 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 3: That there's a speed of it that in many ways, 397 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: engaging in social media is an instantaneous press release two 398 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 3: millions of people, including every reporter on planet Earth, and 399 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 3: so that it's a different relationship than it used to be. 400 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 3: And as I said, it was Trump who pioneered that. 401 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 3: But I've been on Air Force One with Trump where 402 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 3: we were talking about a topic and he said, all right, 403 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: let's send a tweet on that, and he in that instance, 404 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 3: dictated it to his social media guy, Dan Scavino. Dan 405 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 3: sent the tweet out from Air Force One. And I've 406 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: been in the President's office on Air Force One with 407 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: Fox News on the TV and boom as tweet pops 408 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 3: up on the TV again five ten minutes after he 409 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: decided to send that tweet. And so there's an instantaneous 410 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 3: communication piece to it that is very, very. 411 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 1: Potent, no doubt about it. I want to talk about 412 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: one of the places where social media is driving change 413 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: and reform that deals with bud Light and now Target 414 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: losing nine billion dollars in the week following the calls 415 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: for boycotts over what they've been doing, going after kids 416 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: and their gay pride to and some of the just 417 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: horrific things that they're selling online and their designers are 418 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: designing the clothes it is a Satanist who is designing it, 419 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: saying that, you know, trans people should come to Satan. 420 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: It's shocking to see this all play out, but it's 421 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: cost him now apparently nine billion dollars. 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The 445 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: victory over Anheuser Busch by conservatives after they decide to 446 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: partner with a dude who's dressed like a chick mulvaney. 447 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: Now we're seeing Target. Target is posted a nine billion 448 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: dollar loss and market cap in just a week after 449 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: they face backlash for their Pride gear, which included tuck 450 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: friendly swimsuits and other gender related products. Just like Budweiser. 451 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: They're learning very quickly that parents and normal adults are 452 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: going to not just sit back and take it anymore. 453 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: They're not going to allow their children to be manipulated. Conservatives, 454 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: and I say this with hope, now are finally waking 455 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: up and realizing how powerful we are as a group 456 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: when we stand together as patriots and say no more. 457 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 3: You don't have to say, it's amazing how many big 458 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 3: companies don't understand their customers and don't respect their customers, 459 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: because if you respect your customers, you don't insult them. 460 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: If you respect your customers, you focus on what your 461 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 3: customers want, and you don't try to impose your political 462 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: ideology or your extreme views on your customers. It's the 463 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 3: phrase the customer is always right used to mean something. 464 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 3: We see this throughout corporate America, where ad agencies are 465 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 3: hard left, h our departments are hard left. That the 466 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: C suite is scared to death of the shareholder activist, 467 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: is scared to death of the twenty four year old 468 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 3: children that they've hired out of woke universities who are 469 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 3: demanding that they virtue signal. And it used to be 470 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 3: the case that that that the CEOs believed, well, if 471 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: I give in to the mob, it'll appease the mob, 472 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: and I can go do what I want. And I 473 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 3: got to say that that there's a constellation now of 474 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: three events and in fairly quick order. Uh, there's Disney 475 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: and and and when Disney came out vocally against Florida's 476 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: law prohibiting the teaching of sexually explicit information to children. 477 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: The backlash was significant when when the legislature acted to 478 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: strip Disney's special tax subsidy and exemption from the ordinary 479 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: rules in Florida law. That was one of the very 480 00:28:54,080 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 3: first big consequences to a company going woke then, and 481 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: you had bud Light and bud Light likewise not understanding 482 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: or respecting its customers. And the reaction was was swift 483 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: from the customers who could who found that they could 484 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: switch to another beer and another light beer really quite 485 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 3: easily and quite costlessly. And and that cost has been 486 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 3: significant for Anheuser Busch and now thirdly Target and Target 487 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: nine billion dollars in just a few days. That's a 488 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: lot of money. That's a lot of money anyway you 489 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: look at it, and and it's you know, Target is 490 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: trying to wrap themselves in oh, we're just you know, 491 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: defending pride, and and you know people are LGBT that 492 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 3: that they shop too, and that's true, they do. But 493 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: but Target was not simply selling to all their customers 494 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: straight or gay. It was rather aggressively directing this propaganda 495 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 3: kids at little kids, at three year olds, at time, toddlers, 496 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 3: at babies. And I got to say that is extreme. 497 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 3: It is only well, it's actually, as we pointed out 498 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: in the lot last podcast, they literally hired a self 499 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 3: identified Satanist to design the display, and and they're selling 500 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: clothing with explicit appeals to the devil, Like I'm sorry, 501 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: what imbecile at Targets said, you know what, our customers 502 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 3: really want more Satanic worship, and maybe Satanic worship combined 503 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 3: with convincing two year olds that they really should have 504 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: sex and be gay like what and be transgender and 505 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: be two like? How exactly does that pitch go? And 506 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: is there anyone in the room that says, well, gosh, 507 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: maybe some of our customers just want them us to 508 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 3: leave their kids alone. I do think there is the 509 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 3: cumulative effect of Disney and then bud Light and then Target. 510 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: It's much greater than additive because I think it is 511 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 3: a deterrent to the next company thinking about doing this. 512 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: You know, we already have information for within Target. They're saying, 513 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: we don't want to be bud Light, we don't want 514 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 3: to be bud Light. Well you know what the next 515 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 3: company is going to say, we don't want to be 516 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 3: bud Lighter Target, we don't want to be bud later Target. 517 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: That starts to get really powerful. 518 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: You know, there's something else about this too that's really 519 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: shocking to me. Target seems to understand that they don't 520 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: want to be don't want to become bud Light. But 521 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: at the same time, their internal memos that have been 522 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: leaked show that they're not backing down from selling these goods. 523 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: They're just redesigning how they're showcasing them within their stores, 524 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: and specifically, it says within southern stores in Southern states. 525 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: In other words, when when you walked into the Target 526 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: that was right by my house, it's it was the 527 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: first thing you saw when you want in this massive 528 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: pride with the target set on Target Pride, that the 529 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: section was very clearly there. Now they're moving that section 530 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: away from the front of the store, but the goods 531 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 1: that they were selling are still in the store. And 532 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: they even said in their own internal email, says, to 533 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: the teams who have been working so hard on our 534 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: plans for Pride and now are showing incredible agility as 535 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: we adjust. Thank you. Your efforts will ensure we can 536 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: still show up and celebrate Pride in meaningful ways. They 537 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: also went on to say that the lgbt Q IA 538 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: plus community One of the hardest parts in all of 539 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: this was trying to contemplate how the adjustments we're making 540 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: that we're making to alleviate these threats quote to our 541 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: team's physical and psychological safety would impact you in your 542 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: well being in psychological safety. We stand with you, they say, 543 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: now and basically forever. This is the part that I 544 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: think is shocking about Target not learning. They're basically saying 545 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: that if you are against them doing this to kids, 546 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: that somehow you're attacking them and their workers psychologically and 547 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: their well being. In other words, well, it's these mother's fault. 548 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: It's these women who are not shopping your's fault that 549 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: we're having to do this. And we still stand by you. 550 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: We're still selling everything Centator, but we're going to move 551 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: it around and place it in different areas, and don't worry, 552 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: We're still going to accomplish our agenda here. We're not 553 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: going to say we got it wrong. 554 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: Well, and you notice Target is engaging in the same 555 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 3: sleight of hand that left wing activists and the corrupt 556 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 3: corporate media did in the fight over the law in 557 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 3: Florida concerning teaching kids about sexuality. Remember they branded that 558 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: law don't say gay, and this is all about gay rights. 559 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 3: This is all about just efforts to suppress. 560 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 2: The LGBT community. 561 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 3: The law in Florida, as you and I have talked 562 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 3: about at length, which they wrongly call the don't say 563 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 3: gay law, I view as the don't say sex law, 564 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 3: don't don't talk about gay sex, don't talk about straight 565 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 3: sex with five year olds, leave five year olds alone. 566 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: The law applied in Florida to pre KK one, two 567 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 3: and three fourth grade. Florida law allowed you, katie, bar 568 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 3: the door, get into anything you wanted in this instance. Notice, 569 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: Target's entire defense is all just generically about LGBT. It's 570 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 3: not about the fact that they are targeting infants, literally 571 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 3: onesies for infants, and not only that, they're selling clothing 572 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 3: for young girls to strap their breasts down to hide 573 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 3: their breasts, and they're selling bathing suits for three year 574 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 3: old boys to tuck their genitalia in and hide it 575 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: like that is. Look, that's extreme on any measure, targeting children, 576 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: and what Target is trying to do, ironically, is cover 577 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: that up entirely by making it broader and more generic 578 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 3: and ignoring the truly grotesque part about what they're doing. 579 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to ask you another question about this politically, 580 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: and that is the bud like controversy was predominantly we 581 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: now know from the data that's been shared, is men 582 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: saying I'm not buying bud Light. The nine billion that 583 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: disappeared from Target in a week is we know now 584 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: from the data is clearly women. What does this say 585 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: about not just moms really now getting involved in standing up? 586 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: And also what does this mean going into this next 587 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: presidential election? And before you answer that, I want to 588 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: tell you about our friends at Patriot Mobile. We're talking 589 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: about companies that don't stand with our values. We're talking 590 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: about companies that don't stand up for what we believe 591 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: and in fact they're the opposite of that. Don't give 592 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: them your money. 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We saw an 616 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 1: initial kind of reaction from moms who said, Okay, we're 617 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: gonna boycott, and then it's kind of disappeared. Disney's doing fine. 618 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: Moms wanted to have those moments with their kids. They 619 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: wanted to go to Disneyland. I've had this grand debate 620 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: with many of my family and friends, and butt light happened, 621 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: and that was predominatly men standing up saying, uh uh, 622 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: I'm not doing this. Target is women's and I'm so 623 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: happy to see mothers that are being inspired. And I 624 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: think part of this was from the lockdowns and seeing 625 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: what was happening their kids' schools. But this is amazing 626 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: to witness mothers, and I think this is going to 627 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: play out with a lot more women running for office 628 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: as conservatives. We've seen some of that already happen at 629 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: school board rates around the country, but this was an 630 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: inspired week for me to watch so many mothers take 631 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: nine billion dollars out of the pockets of target. 632 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 3: Well, we are seeing and we have seen the power 633 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 3: of women and moms when they get really engaged and 634 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 3: they get really angry. As you noted, we're seeing it 635 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 3: in school board races all over the country when they 636 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 3: see what's being taught to their kids and their outrage 637 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 3: at the garbage being taught to their kids, and they're 638 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 3: flipping school board races nationwide. There are a bunch of races 639 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 3: in Texas. I've gotten actively involved in where we flip 640 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 3: them from left wing boards to moms taking their schools back. Look, 641 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 3: we saw it powerfully in Virginia and Louden County, where 642 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 3: moms in Virginia were angry at the arrogance of the schools, 643 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 3: at the left wing propaganda, at the critical race theory, 644 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 3: at covering up sexual assaults of little girls in the 645 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 3: girl's bathroom in Louden County in that instance by a 646 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 3: boyd in wearing a skirt, and those moms, and many 647 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 3: of those moms had voted for Joe Biden just the 648 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 3: previous election, but they flipped over and elected Glenn Youngkin. 649 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 3: That is a very powerful thing. I think it also 650 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 3: matters in terms of Boycott's. Historically, Conservatives have typically been 651 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 3: not very good at Boycott's. Part of the problem is 652 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 3: that that for some things, it's it's hard to substitute. 653 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 3: Disney's an example where you can be annoyed at Disney 654 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 3: but but if your kids really want to go to 655 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 3: Disney World, that can be hard to say no to. 656 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 2: They're not a lot of alternatives. 657 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: There's six Flags, but but disney World is a pretty 658 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 3: unique offering, and for that matter, Disney's movies. I mean look, 659 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: there's only one snow Whiter or Cinderella or you know 660 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 3: toy story from Pixar. I mean, they're, they're, they're. That 661 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 3: is a difficult product for many people to give up permanently. 662 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 3: I think the same thing is true about pro sports. 663 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: I think lots of sports fans are unhappy with the 664 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 3: NFL or the NBA and all of the woken. But 665 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 3: at the same time, people and I put myself in 666 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 3: this camp, really love going to sports events, ensuring on 667 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 3: their teams, and so it's a painful boycott. What really 668 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 3: came to bite bud Light is that wasn't a hard boycott. 669 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 3: It's difficult for nobody on planet Earth if you were 670 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 3: going to order a bud Light to say, uh, of course, 671 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 3: like like, that's a very simple substitution. I'm not sure 672 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 3: many people could could go through a blind taste test 673 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 3: and tell the difference. And so it's it's an easy substitution. 674 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 2: Target. 675 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 3: We'll see how prolonged and easy a substitution it is. 676 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 3: There's Walmart, you know, there are alternatives. I will say 677 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 3: targets are located in a lot of areas and very 678 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 3: convenient for a lot of shoppers. So we'll see if 679 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 3: this becomes a persistent consequence or not, but whether it 680 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 3: is sustained. The fact that it was so concentrated and 681 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 3: intense has I think certainly made a real impression on 682 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 3: the target executives, I hope, but also on the next executives. 683 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 3: And you and I have talked about before. If we 684 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 3: want to stop corporate America from going woke, we've got 685 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 3: to change the cost benefit analysis so that when the 686 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 3: next executives are thinking about it, the downside of the 687 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,240 Speaker 3: ledger is bigger and more problematic. And I do think 688 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks have dramatically increased the downside, 689 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 3: not just for these companies but for every other. And 690 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 3: that's a good thing for those of us that would 691 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 3: like companies just to get back to sell in their 692 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 3: damn products and keep their idiotic politics out of our lives. 693 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, great point, and a great point to end on. 694 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: Don't forget we do this show three days a week Monday, 695 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: Wednesdays and Fridays that there's big breaking news. We do 696 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: special pods in between, so make sure you hit that 697 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: subscribe or that auto download button. Also, if you've never 698 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: written us a review, please write us a five star 699 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: review for this podcast. 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