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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to another episode of the Betting

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Speaker 1: Pros NFL Podcast. I'm your host, Dan Harris. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Dan Harris. Ady with me,

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Speaker 1: of course, is Matt Parl. You can find him on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Sports Talk Matt. Matt, are you ready to

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Speaker 1: do this for Week five?

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Speaker 2: I think I like this card more than you do

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Speaker 2: what I thought.

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Speaker 1: You no, I well, yes, that's true. I hate this card.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it. You're gonna have to convince me

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Speaker 1: that this is not a week that we are going

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Speaker 1: to pass on all these pics.

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Speaker 2: I've come around. I'm coming around.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, you're disappointing me. We'll talk about every game regardless.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're in the DraftKings contest, So let's actually, uh,

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Speaker 1: let's recap where we are there, because we're doing okay,

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Speaker 1: We're not We certainly haven't buried ourselves here. We were

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Speaker 1: eight and seven coming into last week, and we went

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Speaker 1: three and two last week. We missed on the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: length three and a half points to the Panthers and

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Speaker 1: on the Texans length three and a half points to

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Speaker 1: the Vikings. We hit on the Browns, getting four and

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Speaker 1: a half from the Cowboys. We hit on the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: getting seven and a half from the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: and we hit on the Colts, getting two and a

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Speaker 1: half from the Bears. We are eleven and nine now.

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Speaker 1: We were two hundred and fifty fifth out of I

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Speaker 1: think it's six ninety one last week. We're one hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty ninth now, so we're slowly moving up. We're

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Speaker 1: ready to go, but we need a big week. I

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Speaker 1: don't feel like this is a big week because it's

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Speaker 1: very difficult in my opinion. Matt apparently feels a little differently.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get to it. As always, props, we're not

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Speaker 1: out yet. We will tune into our YouTube channel YouTube

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Betting Pros. Matt does a livestream from

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Speaker 1: eleven to twelve. Matt, you've been pretty hot on your props.

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Speaker 1: You've been given out there, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been doing really well actually, and it's I've

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Speaker 2: had to kind of reassess the way that I put

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Speaker 2: my how much money I'm investing in the prop bets

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Speaker 2: because the unit bets, the full unit bets have been

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Speaker 2: doing okay, but the prop beds have been kind of

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Speaker 2: saving me every weekend and normally I only invest about

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Speaker 2: a quarter unit on props because I just think they're

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Speaker 2: very volatile. It's one player, he gets hurt and then

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Speaker 2: your prop is blown. But I mean last clip, I

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Speaker 2: think I was I hit for like eleven in my

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Speaker 2: it's been fun. It's been real fun since the live

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Speaker 2: stream has started to get give those out and to

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Speaker 2: watch those games from a different perspective, almost like a

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Speaker 2: DFS perspective, when you're really pulling for one or two

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Speaker 2: players to do something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, props are a lot of fun actually, and i've

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Speaker 1: kind of I've heard from just people I know that

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Speaker 1: props are becoming much more of like a sharp play

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Speaker 1: when people are devoting a little more time to it

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Speaker 1: and being able to really because I think that books

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Speaker 1: don't take as much care as they do with setting

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Speaker 1: the lines as they do with player props.

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Speaker 2: What I would say about is this, in Vegas, the

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Speaker 2: prop market is much less smaller, right, The options are

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Speaker 2: far fewer than it is with the DraftKings and the

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Speaker 2: fan duels of the world. So what's happened is that

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Speaker 2: the New Jerseys, the West Virginia's Indiana's Illinois of the world.

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Speaker 2: People have grown up playing Daily Fantasy in those markets,

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Speaker 2: so they go to their apps and they open up

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Speaker 2: the book and if there's not like fifty props on

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Speaker 2: every game, they get kind of frustrated. They're like, what

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Speaker 2: do you mean, hold on a second, why can I

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Speaker 2: do it? Because the offshores have done that for years.

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Speaker 2: So that's been the biggest, not problem, but frustration I

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Speaker 2: think from people living in Las Vegas is that the

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Speaker 2: marketplace for props. You're right, the algorithms have not caught

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Speaker 2: up yet and they're much easier to beat the book

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Speaker 2: that way than it is on a total or side.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. Okay, so let's talk about a

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Speaker 1: couple of things here. First, Matt was running around right

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Speaker 1: before we got into this podcast, so I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you've heard, Matt, but they have moved the Patriots

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Speaker 1: Broncos game to Monday night, going to do it Monday

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Speaker 2: Again, I'll just admit how stupid it was to play

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs game. Yeah, that was a terrible time, just.

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Speaker 2: A stupid move. It was so dumb, it was so predictable,

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Speaker 2: like we're learning a little more about at least playing

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Speaker 2: football might not be that dangerous the actual act of playing.

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Speaker 2: It's the practice time, it's the meetings, it's the group

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, you've got this whole thing now

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. There's talk, well, if they could get the

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Speaker 1: necessarily that you might move the Chiefs Bills game from

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Speaker 1: Thursday to Saturday. There's all this nonsense. We can consider

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Speaker 1: that game. I haven't given it too much thought because

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's the question I've got for you though, because

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Speaker 2: All right, Circa has changed their rules, and I don't

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Speaker 2: the NFL Tuesday at two am, that's the cutoff date.

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Speaker 2: But before then, if they rule a team has forfeited

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Speaker 2: and you picked the team like the Bills for instant

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Speaker 2: right Bills against the Titans, if you if you win

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Speaker 2: the circle picked the Bills this week and it's minus

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Speaker 2: three in the circle. But so you picked the Bills

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Speaker 2: and the Titans forfeit, you win. Really you get a point.

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Speaker 2: If you pick the Titans plus three and the Titans forfeit,

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Speaker 1: What if they postpone the game?

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Speaker 2: a no play. You'd go with four games that week?

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Speaker 2: A it's a game theory type of thing, where like,

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Speaker 2: with it? If you you know? And then if they play,

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Speaker 2: are you comfortable being on the Bills minus three? Because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well anyway, let's let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: We're recording this because we've talked a little bit about

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Speaker 1: this game. We're recording this at about six forty five

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Speaker 1: It's six forty eight Eastern time. I just see a

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Speaker 1: the Bill Titans Bills game that's scheduled for Sunday is

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Speaker 1: being moved to Tuesday. Oh my gosh at six pm.

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Speaker 1: So long as there are no more positive tests in Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: Wait, so so Tuesday at two am would not actually

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Speaker 2: move that back, I guess unless they rule that they're

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Speaker 2: not want to forfeit a game to the Titans, even

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Speaker 2: though it sure sounds like they should.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you don't want to do that to a

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Speaker 2: You don't want to team versus another, I mean, two

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, anyway, look, so it's now six forty nine.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we we talked a little bit. The

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Speaker 1: to consider. I believe it's four and a half on DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a bummer because the line's three. And

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Speaker 2: have you heard Mike Evans news yet? Is that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? He's he is playing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Mike Evans minus three is my bet and

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Speaker 2: I'll hold on. It's like, and I got actually physically

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Speaker 1: You're getting your bet in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been waiting for that new So I have

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Speaker 2: to physically go ahead and bet.

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Speaker 1: Look how dedicated ye live on the podcast on the

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Speaker 1: podcast YouTube dot com slash Betting Pros.

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Speaker 2: So okay, uh, I will talk, okay it so I

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Speaker 2: the minus three with Mike Evans playing. So four and

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Speaker 2: I think it's a field goal game. So uh, in

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Speaker 2: the DraftKings, I would say pass it because that's a

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Speaker 2: say four and a half is too heavy. But three

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Speaker 2: is why I waited, waited for Mike Evans and Mike

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Speaker 2: Evans minus three I took tempa.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, I want to pass on it as well,

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Speaker 1: So I'm glad you didn't have a very very strong

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Speaker 1: lean on it. So that game's out. It's three and

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Speaker 1: a half, by the way, and our consensus odds sixty

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Speaker 1: five percent of experts are picking the Bucks at that spread.

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Speaker 1: But we're going to pass that game. We're not going

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Speaker 1: to go all right, Matt. You know what we do.

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Speaker 1: We go back and forth. Here, you one, I do one.

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Speaker 1: You gave me a couple that you were leaning on.

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Speaker 1: I was, you know, a little hazardant on it. So

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Speaker 1: go ahead, start us off. What's your best player or

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Speaker 1: however you wanna you are.

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Speaker 2: Put it the play that I like the best, or

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers minus seven and seven, right or six

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Speaker 1: Half, seven and a half, seven and a.

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Speaker 2: Half, fine, still take it. Don't like it, but I'll

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Speaker 2: still take it. I don't like it, but I'll still

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Speaker 2: take it. I think the Steelers are gonna be all

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Speaker 2: over this. Pittsburgh did this Philadelphia Eagles team. And here's

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Speaker 2: And like, you know, Matt Ryan looked so bad against

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Speaker 1: That's also where I sort of have in my mind.

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Speaker 2: Game though it's a conference game, I get it. Man.

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Speaker 1: I look, I'm not putting it in. I'm not putting

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Speaker 2: All right, So my next one, and so I kind

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Speaker 2: Really interesting that the Colts are favored in this game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, all right, I'm putting in pen because

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Speaker 1: So it's funny. I'm totally good with it. That is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Remember when I came on the Eagles

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Speaker 1: I was getting confused.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This line should be three and it's six

434
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Speaker 2: and a half. So it's three points of value on

435
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Speaker 2: the Jaguars, and this is only two points of value

436
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Speaker 2: on the Jaguars. But this is Houston after firing their

437
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Speaker 2: head coach. Is this is why I couldn't play this game.

438
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Speaker 2: And I'll probably pick it. I'll probably pick it in

439
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Speaker 2: the circle, and I probably.

440
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Speaker 1: Will on six and a half, by the way, in the.

441
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Speaker 2: Six and a half in the circle. Okay, so the

442
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,920
Speaker 2: big point difference, yep. But here's I'm not excited about

443
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Speaker 2: doing it, only because I don't know what direction the

444
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Speaker 2: Texans go. You get rid of Bill O'Brien, there could

445
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,639
Speaker 2: be a rallying cry for this team. They could figure

446
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Speaker 2: it out, or it's Romeo Cornell who is a horrible

447
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 2: head coach, and they could be completely not prepared and

448
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Speaker 2: they go out there and get their doors pulling off

449
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Speaker 2: by the Jacks. So I don't know. I mean, so

450
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Speaker 2: I think this is a dog or pass game because

451
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Speaker 2: of what's going on with the Texans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll put it away. I'm not going to

453
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Speaker 1: take the Jacks because I just I like the Texans

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Speaker 1: side on it. To me, I do think that it

455
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Speaker 1: can only benefit the team to have Bill O'Brien on.

456
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Speaker 1: And I do think, and this is much more anecdotally

457
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Speaker 1: because I haven't had the time to really dig into this,

458
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Speaker 1: but I feel like there is a little bit of

459
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Speaker 1: a quote unquote rally around the flag effect in that

460
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Speaker 1: first game after a head coaches fired, where teams come

461
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Speaker 1: out a little bit more. And again the Jaguars, the

462
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Speaker 1: big thing with them is their defense is pretty banged up.

463
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Speaker 1: I mean, Miles Jack isn't practicing.

464
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Speaker 2: C J.

465
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Speaker 1: Henderson is battling his shoulder injury. De Jay Hayden's gonna

466
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Speaker 1: miss the game. So for me, the injuries to the

467
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Speaker 1: defense fine, but it is five and a half, and

468
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Speaker 1: especially six and a half is, by the way, the

469
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Speaker 1: consensus lines and the experts are roughly split on it

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Speaker 1: fifty six forty four. So I'm fine to move on

471
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Speaker 1: with that. I don't want to take the Jags, though,

472
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Speaker 1: but I'm fine to move on from that. So go

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Speaker 1: ahead to your next one.

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Speaker 2: The next one is one that is kind of a

475
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Speaker 2: system play, and I know you're probably gonna shake your

476
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Speaker 2: head out and say no, but the Bengals are catching

477
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Speaker 2: thirteen and a half points thirteen and a half points.

478
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Speaker 2: It's Joey backdoor cover baby. I just the Bengals. It

479
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: may not be pretty, but Lamar Jackson's knee injury screams.

480
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Speaker 2: Pull him in the third quarter, pull him in the

481
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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, get him off the field, and then let

482
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Speaker 2: Burrow go to work and let them lose by ten

483
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Speaker 2: and cover that thirteen and a half point line. It's

484
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Speaker 2: gonna be part of my teaser. I'm teasing this. I'm

485
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Speaker 2: gonna wait till this line gets to fourteen. I do

486
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Speaker 2: think you'll get to fourteen.

487
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Speaker 1: And you're gonna tease it up to twenty.

488
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tease it to twenty. I think the Bengals

489
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Speaker 2: are gonna be in the I think the Bengal's gonna

490
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: make this game closer than people realize because I think

491
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Speaker 2: Burrow's that good.

492
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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't hate it. You know you said, oh

493
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Speaker 1: you're gonna I don't hate it, but I'll put it

494
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Speaker 1: on the pencil list. I could see it. And I

495
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Speaker 1: do think Jackson, who misspractice again today with an illness,

496
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Speaker 1: you know he's not at one hundred percent. But you know,

497
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Speaker 1: let me ask you something like this. You've got another

498
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Speaker 1: team catching thirteen and a half points, and that's the

499
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Speaker 1: Raiders getting thirteen and a half from the Chiefs. Do

500
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Speaker 1: you like that game on either side?

501
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 2: No, and I don't like it on either side. And

502
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Speaker 2: I actually like that maybe the other side of my teaser.

503
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Speaker 2: I haven't fully determined it yet, but if you can

504
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Speaker 2: get twelve and a half for the for the Chiefs

505
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: and then tease it down under seven, get to six

506
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Speaker 2: and a half, I think the Chiefs maybe on the

507
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Speaker 2: other side of that teaser that that I'll play with

508
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Speaker 2: the Ravens and the Chiefs for four and ohero on

509
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Speaker 2: these teasers so far here on the Daily Juice podcast,

510
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Speaker 2: so I'm trying to expend that to five and oh here.

511
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Speaker 2: But I just think the Kanstie Chiefs are not I

512
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: don't want to say they're angry, but they're not happy

513
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 2: with the way they play against the Patriots offense right.

514
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 2: They want to get after it. Having Henry Ruggs come

515
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 2: back is gigantic for the Raiders' offense because it will

516
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Speaker 2: allow Waller to get free over the middle. The problem

517
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Speaker 2: without without the guy to take the top off the defense,

518
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: safety's crept down and you really couldn't get the ball

519
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 2: to Waller. So for the last two weeks the Raiders

520
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 2: really Waller wasn't visible, so I think he re emerges

521
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Speaker 2: with then after you open up Waller, now you've got

522
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Speaker 2: the over the top to Rugs and now you can

523
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Speaker 2: run the ball more with Josh Jacobs. So their offense

524
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: really does. Having Rugs there is a major, major piece

525
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Speaker 2: to what they want to do. But on the road

526
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Speaker 2: at Arrowhead, yikes.

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Speaker 1: For that it's not the same though, I mean, ara's

528
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Speaker 1: not the same. I'm not going to push for that

529
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Speaker 1: game because that's not a game that I am desperate off.

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Speaker 1: It is worth noting both these games. The games are

531
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Speaker 1: the big spread the consensus lines. So the lines in

532
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Speaker 1: the Draftings sportsbook are thirteen and a half for both

533
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Speaker 1: the favorites. The consensus lines that are going at and

534
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Speaker 1: I don't know what they are in the circum at,

535
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Speaker 1: but they're they're closer. The Ravens are only laying twelve

536
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Speaker 1: now in the contstant lines, and by the way, the

537
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Speaker 1: experts are split right down the middle. It's fifty three

538
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Speaker 1: percent even at twelve, so you're getting an extra point

539
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Speaker 1: and a half there. For the Chiefs, they're only laying

540
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Speaker 1: eleven on the consensus lines, and that's fifty eight percent

541
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Speaker 1: leaning towards the Chiefs. So that's fine. I don't have

542
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Speaker 1: a major feel in either one of them. Although if

543
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Speaker 1: you came and you were definitely like, man, I love

544
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Speaker 1: both dogs, I would be willing to take it. It's

545
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Speaker 1: terrifying to do it. It's a little more terrifying to

546
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Speaker 1: go against the Chiefs. Yeah, because it's.

547
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Speaker 2: Twelve in the circle, by the way, Raiders plus twelve

548
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 2: Bengals plus it's eleven and a half in the circus

549
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: is a bit wow, big difference in points there. And

550
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Speaker 2: to get two points of two points of value in

551
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Speaker 2: the draft Kings contest versus the circa contest, all right,

552
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Speaker 2: So all.

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Speaker 1: Right, I want to vomit, but let's put that one

554
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Speaker 1: in pencil and be okay. So we've got a couple

555
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Speaker 1: of leeks that are under consideration. We've only got one

556
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Speaker 1: that we're definitely doing, with the Colts laying one and

557
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: a half to the Browns, and then we've got the

558
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Speaker 1: Steelers laying seven and a half to the Eagless definitely under consideration.

559
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Speaker 1: The Bengals getting thirteen and a half from the Ravens

560
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Speaker 1: and the Panthers laying two and a half to the Falcons,

561
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Speaker 1: which you know is a well we'll see. Uh what

562
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Speaker 1: about the Cardinals laying seven and a half points to

563
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Speaker 1: the Joe Flacco led Jets.

564
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Speaker 2: I mean, okay, hold on. Have you seen some of

565
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: the stats for Kyler Murray.

566
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Speaker 1: Oh? I well, you can read them off if you look.

567
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying his completion he's last in the NFL

568
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Speaker 2: in yards per completion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

570
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Speaker 2: I know, it's really scary to go and ask him

571
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Speaker 2: to do anything. I'm really I'm nervous about that team

572
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 2: and how they've regressed very quickly.

573
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

574
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Speaker 2: They the Cardinals are scaring the holy heck out of me.

575
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Speaker 2: And I think Joe Flacco is playing for legacy. Uh

576
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Speaker 2: uh oh, I think.

577
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Matt, I will grant you everything

578
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: you want to say about the Cardinals one hundred percent agree.

579
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: They have not played well. I also, I don't know

580
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Speaker 1: what Cliff Kingsbury is doing when they get close to

581
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Speaker 1: the goal line, and even when they do give it

582
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Speaker 1: to Kendon Drake, who has not played well and maybe

583
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: battling and to remember, he was in that walking boot

584
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: all in in, you know, and he has not looked good.

585
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Speaker 1: They don't just pound it up up the middle. They

586
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: do these sweeps that go on the outside and they're

587
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: just not gonna get done. The play calling is atrocious

588
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 1: when you get there. I get all that, but it's

589
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: the Jets, the Adam Gates led Jets with Joe Flacco

590
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 1: playing for legacy. I mean, Joe Laco could be playing

591
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 1: for a billion dollars and it wouldn't change how I

592
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: feel about him as a quarterback. Now, look, anytime you're

593
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: over a touchdown.

594
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 2: They're gonna lose. It's the question of public how much

595
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: that's my worry.

596
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Speaker 1: We were like four seconds away from a win against

597
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Speaker 1: the Broncos, which you and I both had. We were

598
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: four seconds away from the Jets beating the Broncos, and

599
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: they wound up losing by what nine, ten eleven, whatever

600
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: that was. They are terrible. They're one of the worst

601
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Speaker 1: football teams that I can remember watching. It's my own team,

602
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: so I've seen a lot of bad teams.

603
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Speaker 2: But there If you don't like teams on East Coast,

604
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Speaker 2: I just I'm I'm concerned about the Cardinals. I'm concerned

605
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: about DeAndre Hopkins not getting the football in the right cases.

606
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: I wish you know. I to me, this is like

607
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: a prove it game, Like watch the Cardinals this this

608
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: week and if they win by ten points and I'll

609
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, here they go. They they've rectified and

610
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: fixed some stuff. But I just this is about asking

611
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: one of these mediocre teams to go in and cover

612
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: anything on the road in the NFL. I don't know.

613
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: I think it's hard on ten o'clock kick early start time.

614
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: It's it's it worries me.

615
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: So I'll make you a deal. We're gonna take this

616
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Speaker 1: one out. However, if the Cardinals massacre the Jets, from

617
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Speaker 1: now on, my takes on the Jets, which are almost

618
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: always going to be whatever.

619
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Speaker 2: It's your team, Yes, it's your team.

620
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, whatever the spread is it's too small, Yeah,

621
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Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna listen that. We're gonna give that more.

622
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 2: Look, if you want to stand on the table and

623
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Speaker 2: tell me no, no, no, I love the Cardinals, so I

624
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: I I'm okay. I mean I toldally going into the

625
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 2: year this is a great team.

626
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Speaker 1: I'm just correcked.

627
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm nervous about my own evaluation of these guys because

628
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 2: I feel like Kyler Murray is regressing as a passer

629
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Speaker 2: and he came out of the gate for firing and

630
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 2: it looked awesome. And now it's like all this dink

631
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: and dunk stuff isn't working, and I can't, like, where's Fitzgerald,

632
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 2: Where's Kirk? Like where is this team right now? Offensively?

633
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: And it's great when Kyler's running, But how long can

634
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 2: you do that and have him be healthy?

635
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, look, I think two weeks ago, it

636
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: might have been last week where I said, Man, I

637
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: just I think the market just hasn't caught up so

638
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: that the Cardinals are really good now they're they're really struggling,

639
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: I will say, And I'm not pushing towards this game.

640
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: This spread, the contents of spread is seven and I'm

641
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: looking at our bet analyzer, of our betting pros dot

642
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: Com slash NFL slash bet dash analyzer, it is eighty

643
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: that's the most one sided game. Of the people who

644
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: are picking games, it's eighty two percent are on the

645
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: Cardinals to cover a seven point spread against the Jets.

646
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: We'll take it off because as long as I can

647
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: know that in the future, if there's and you might

648
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: be right, I just I can't imagine. I mean Leveon

649
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: Bell is coming back. I don't care. It just doesn't matter.

650
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: They are.

651
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: They are an historically terrible team, they really are. But

652
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: let's go to your next pick then, okay, So well,

653
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna put that one in pencil. We'll

654
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: take it off. It's okay with me because I don't

655
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: It's not like I love it, but it was one

656
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: of the one and sosiying, do you have anything else

657
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: that you're eyeing? Because I got a couple more than

658
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm maybe thinking about.

659
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: Not really, I mean, the only other game that I

660
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 2: think we're gonna wind up taking in the Circa is

661
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna play that system, play on the

662
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: Bills and lay the three and a half to see

663
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: what the NFL might might come back and do, because

664
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: I just I know we're sitting here on Thursday.

665
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: And what is the what? What is the spread?

666
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: It's three?

667
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: The Titans are laying three.

668
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: No, the Bills are laying three.

669
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: You know that in ours? The Titans are laying one

670
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: and a half to the Bills, right, unless I wrote that?

671
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: Did I write that down wrong? Please tell me I didn't.

672
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: You sent to me?

673
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: I sent to you. Good, look at the signs the Bills.

674
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: Are one and no the Bills are favorite mins one

675
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: and a.

676
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: Half the Bills are favorite. I'm sorry, Okay, that would

677
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: have been That would have been pretty great. That would

678
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: have been great.

679
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: Monster that everybody. I mean, yeah, so I mean to

680
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: me because I don't I'm not so sure that the

681
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: Titans aren't gonna have something drop here that's going to

682
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: be catastrophic on Saturday that the league's gonna come back

683
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: and say, you're gonna forfeit this game. I mean, if

684
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: the Titans aren't going to forfeit this game, no one

685
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: will ever forfeit a game in the NFL, not that

686
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: they want.

687
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: To know what could happen, Matt, you know what could happen?

688
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: What I I forgot who somebody tweeted this sat It

689
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: might have been Todd Furman, somebody tweeted out somebody said.

690
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: What they should do is when you have these games,

691
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: don't give the Titans a loss necessarily. I don't know

692
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: if this would be fair because they're avoiding games with

693
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: tough teams, But you give the Bills a win, like

694
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: the Bills are credited with a win in the game,

695
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: but you don't make the Titans take the loss on it.

696
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: They stay at whatever their record is and you just

697
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: give the posing you can win. Now that's not really

698
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they play the Steelers, that's a tough game

699
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: for them.

700
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: So just really congratulations, Jo hate that the books who

701
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: have Bills, who have big liability on the Bills.

702
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: That's true.

703
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: Win total. That's crazy that Titan win totals as well,

704
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: because you'd want them to actually have a loss there

705
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: not a win. I guess it for win to win matter.

706
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: So who do you think is going to win this

707
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: game if they do play?

708
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: Though? Well, you know what I think.

709
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you hate the Bills and you will never bet

710
00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: on the Bills.

711
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: You know where I am on this game, and I

712
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: think this is the exposure game. I think this is

713
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: the game where where finally the Titans play a solid

714
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: game and Tannehill plays well because I think I think

715
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: that Bills defense is horrible and I think this Bills

716
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: team is finally gonna play a defense worth something. They

717
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: haven't played a defense worth anything so far this year.

718
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: Everyone they plays garbage defensively. So if I had to

719
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: bet it, give me the three points in the in

720
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: the Titans. If I was betting it, with money. I'll

721
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: take the Titans plus three at home.

722
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: And you're gonna play it in the circle, though, but

723
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna play it for the Bills. Is that what

724
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: I mean?

725
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: We're debating it. We're gonna wait all the way till

726
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: right before the deadline to see if the NFL on

727
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: Saturday decides to make the Titans forfeit, and then if

728
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: they don't, then we'll just go ahead and play it.

729
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: We'll either replace it or we'll play it. We'll have

730
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: a way we want to play it. But that's the

731
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: We have four picks and we're kind of waiting on

732
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: the waiting on that game to see what's gonna happen.

733
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: All right, let me give you another play that I

734
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: know you're gonna hate because it goes against Russell Wilson

735
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: and it's the Vikings getting six and a half from

736
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: the Seahawks.

737
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: So in Seattle at home, you're going you're taking Kirk

738
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: Cousins on the road against Ross Well sort of this

739
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: time in prime time.

740
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: Also not a good fact for me. I agree that.

741
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson with his numbers in primetime, these things are

742
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: at home against Kirk Cousins in primetime.

743
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: These things are not good. These things are not good

744
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: facts for me saying that this is bet where we

745
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: could take. However, let me offer some counterpoints. There are

746
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Number one, of course, there are

747
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: no fans, so I realized that that may not matter,

748
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, when you think about it. But for me,

749
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: the way I think about that is the huge home

750
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: field advantage that the Seahawks have. This is just more

751
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: that they're comfortable and they don't have to travel. So

752
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: that is something, but it's not nearly the same at

753
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: as what it was in that stadium where it was crazy.

754
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: I think the Vikings have really now changed, and I

755
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: think we didn't see it when we bet the Texans

756
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: last week against them. As bad as the Texans played,

757
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: I think getting Justin Jefferson more involved and essentially taking

758
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: that Stefan Diggs role is going to allow them to

759
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: put up a ton of points and Seattle's Can you

760
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: admit at least that Seattle's defense stinks?

761
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, there's no debate in

762
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: that Seattle's defense is definitely not good. I'm not going

763
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: to deny that. It's just that Wilson is so on

764
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: this MVP watch that it's something else and that secondary

765
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: for the Vikings is who's guarding dk metcalf? Oh?

766
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: I agree, but who was guarding them last week against

767
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and they didn't have this? I mean I

768
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: realized their home now and it's prime time. It's not

769
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: like Wilson went. I mean, Wilson not a great game,

770
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: right of course, and they put up plenty of points,

771
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: but that game was kind of that wasn't you know?

772
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: That the Dolphins decide that they're not going to settle

773
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: for all those field goals, and that's a game. I mean,

774
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: that's something that's close. The Seahawks don't usually blow teams out,

775
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: especially teams that can put up a ton of boys.

776
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: Remember points, a blowout, no, but more points. They usually

777
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: play one.

778
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: They usually play one score games. And who have they

779
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: beaten so far this year? Matt like, go through their games? Okay,

780
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: they've beaten the.

781
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: Dolphins, Patriots with cam at home.

782
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah that was good. That was good. But they barely

783
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: squeaked they barely Okay, chill out, that's fine. Then who

784
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: did they beat? You know, kind of a hard fought game,

785
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: the Falcons, right, garbage? And then who did they beat

786
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, right, the other team they garbage mostly garbage.

787
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: Was a garbage Yeah, yeah, no, I agree, But the

788
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: same thing can be some of the Bills. I mean,

789
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: you're so good, you're raw, raw, Josh Allen.

790
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: Man, Come on, you know.

791
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: Who's played a tougher schedule, The Bills or the Seahawks.

792
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: Okay, who's the Bills played?

793
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: The Jets, the Jets, the Dolphins, the Rams, the Rams,

794
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: uh and the and the Raiders.

795
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, neither one. But I'm not sitting here and saying

796
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson sucks or the Seahawks suck. I'm just

797
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: saying that I don't know necessarily if they are this

798
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: complete juggernaut.

799
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna make you Kirk Cousins to do anything

800
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: in primetime that is.

801
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: I think that's I think if you're if you're avoiding

802
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins outside of a one o'clock Eastern game, you're fine.

803
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: Time that dude bright lights, no way.

804
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: All right, So we're running out of choices here. Let

805
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: me get down a couple other giants getting nine and

806
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: a half from the Cowboys. By the way, I will

807
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: say that on our bed analyzer, the vast majority of

808
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: experts it's the second most heavily sided game, which is

809
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: the Seahawks to cover the seven points. Bread, I'll just

810
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: put that out there. I don't care. I'll do what

811
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: I want. But yeah, yeah, Faith, I'm getting nine and

812
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: a half from the Cowboys. What do you think?

813
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: Why are you so interested in your bad Giants team?

814
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: Is it like I'm not I'm going to the next game.

815
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: I don't like that game. I'm just now saying I'm

816
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: out of games. I thought you were too. Are you?

817
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: Do you have anything?

818
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: I want? Absolutely nothing. I won't watch a single second

819
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: of this game. I want no part of anything to

820
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: do with the Giant, with Dallas and the Giant because

821
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 2: it's fine because you know what back door is coming, right,

822
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Dallas is gonna go up, Everyone's gonna relax,

823
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: and then Danny's gonna start throwing.

824
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: It's going to go into like, oh, I'm on the

825
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: Giants side here. If I have to be on the.

826
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: Side, yeah, I just I don't trust the Cowboy and

827
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: I also don't trust the Giants not to lose my fifty.

828
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: Totally fine, So it's not a game that we need

829
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: to go near at all. I think if you want

830
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: to bet on either one of these teams. You're just insane, insane.

831
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: And again it's minus nine on our consensus lines and

832
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: the experts are fifty one forty nine, so it's completely split,

833
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: all right, So do you have any others or do

834
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: you want to go through their main game?

835
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: What about Sam fran at home with Garoppolo plays?

836
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: Ah?

837
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: What what half our lines? Eight and a half?

838
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: Eight and a half? I worry a little bit again,

839
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean it, you know, didn't look that great the

840
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: last last week.

841
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 2: But I worry a little moans with two interceptions.

842
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, not about the forty nine ers. I mean more

843
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: about the Dolphins. I feel fine with the forty nine ers,

844
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: but again that the forty nine ers, their their defense

845
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: is so decimated and you get the good fits and

846
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: you could easily keep that game within a touchdown right

847
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: by the way, it's that's legitimately. I've sorted it right

848
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: now by most experts side with somebody and fewest experts

849
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: and fifty fifty is Dolphins and forty nine ers covered

850
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: the spread and our bedanaliz our myself, and that's how

851
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: I am. I don't have a good lean for that.

852
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: You like it? Moster may come back as well, and

853
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: Garoppolo may come back. That makes me feel a little better.

854
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: Plays. I'm I think the forty nine ers beat you

855
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 2: love it? He beat him badly. Yeah, I think Kettle

856
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: has a monster game. I think that that at home.

857
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: I think that's just one of those West Coast East

858
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: coast type matchups that if you get Groppolo back healthy,

859
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: they just run them over and they just kill him.

860
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: But I don't. But again, Groppolo coming back has to play,

861
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 2: and that's a big question mark still as to whether

862
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: or not he's gonna play. If it's Nick Mullins, I want

863
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: no part of the game.

864
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: All right. How about what do you think about the

865
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: Washington football team getting seven and a half from the Rams.

866
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: See, here's the thing with this quarterback change. I don't

867
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Speaker 2: know what Kyle Allen's gonna do, so, I mean, and

868
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Speaker 2: also it doesn't sound like the hook won't be that

869
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 2: far away from Allen and they may go to Alex Smith.

870
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 2: I mean, there are plenty of questions to Ron Rivera

871
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: about Alex Smith's availability, and he was like, Alex Smith

872
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: is cleared to play. And if Alex Smith is, if

873
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: doctors say he can play, he can play. If we

874
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: need him, we're gonna play him. So, I mean, I

875
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: don't know who plays quarterback, So that worries me a

876
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: little bit about what's like what happened with the with

877
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: the Falcons and and Nick Foles coming in. It's like

878
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you make a switch and a

879
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: light bulb goes off and one of those guys gets hot,

880
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: and well.

881
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: That's what I'm not I mean, for me with the hook,

882
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: I actually like Washington. Now, Chase Young, I think he's

883
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: gonna play. Oh he's practicing right now.

884
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: J Young plays, then I could probably subscribe to that.

885
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: I could probably, I could probably get.

886
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think whoever's out there, Kyle

887
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: Allen Colin's not a great NFL quarterback. And I always

888
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: have to qualify this map because sometimes I feel like

889
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: on the Fancy Bros. Podcast, where like, oh that guy stinks.

890
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: To be clear, anybody playing in the NFL is better

891
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: at playing football than any of us will ever be

892
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: at anything in our lives. So just bear that in mind.

893
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: But Kyle Allen not great. But we're talking about Dayne

894
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: Haskins year, he's an upgrade. Alex Smith would certainly be

895
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: an upgrade. Alan knows that system because he obviously familiar.

896
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: I think it's an upgrade. The Rams really did not

897
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: look impressive last week. You know, we we've been singing

898
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: their praises a little bit. I remember they were getting

899
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: killed right in that game against was Dallas against the Bills.

900
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: They alway killed against that game against the Bills, the Rights,

901
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: and then they just they managed to make it a

902
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: game at the very end. I don't know what happened. Well,

903
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: obviously you think the Bills think, but you know, if

904
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: Young does play, I kind of might be willing to

905
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: take the hook. And again it's it's minus seven ore

906
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: consensus odds seventy two percent are going with the Rams.

907
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: But this feels like, you know, getting more in a touchdown.

908
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: If Young play is going to Alan and having Alex

909
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: Smith by the way as your backup, which is an upgrade, right,

910
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: that might be a game that I would doubtle on.

911
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I can get behind that. I can at

912
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: seven and a half. It does come down to come

913
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: down to I need Chase Young out there to get

914
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 2: after in disrupting who I think is mister happy feet

915
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: and Jared Goff. So I think you need to make

916
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: it make his life a little more miserable than it's been.

917
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: So if you have young out there being able to

918
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: get out to the quarterback and disruption and interrupting the offense,

919
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: is that, yeah, I can get by in seven and

920
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: a half.

921
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, all right, so let's let's put that as

922
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: a as a maybe for sure. How how do you

923
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: feel about your team laying ten and a half to

924
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: the Broncos. I'm assuming they play now on Monday night,

925
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: Prime Time ten and a half.

926
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Speaker 2: This is the biggest no play of the week. You

927
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: cannot go near this game. I mean, we don't know

928
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: about CAM. I mean yeah, and then if it's if

929
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: it's not going to be Cam, are they gonna play Hoyer?

930
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: I mean no, They're going to Stidham? All right? Hoyer

931
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: was terrible said that.

932
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: Belichick won't say that. He's been asked point playing three times. Now,

933
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: are you going to go to Stidham if Cam is

934
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 2: not available?

935
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: How can you go back to Hoyer after what you

936
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: saw against the Chiefs.

937
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: I really think that here's my conspiracy theory, and this

938
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: is could be way off, but here's what I think.

939
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: I think the Patriots know that Jared Stidham's their quarterback

940
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 2: next year, regardless of what happens with Cam this year.

941
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: And then Cam knows that too, and I think they

942
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: know they've got something. Instead of that they needed another

943
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: year to season him, to get him really up to

944
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: speed and ready to go, kind of like a Patrick

945
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: Mahomes situation where in practice everyone's like, oh my gosh,

946
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: this kid can play now, and we're really excited about it.

947
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: And I think this team is wanting to avoid a

948
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Speaker 2: quarterback controversy if Sidheam goes out and sets the world

949
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: on fire and then Cam comes back and they've already

950
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: given a year to Cam. This is your year. Cam,

951
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: come here and play for a year for us, give

952
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 2: us everything for one year, and then go and cash in.

953
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: I mean, Cam has been pretty honest, honest. It's like

954
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: it's a business trip. His family hasn't moved there, like

955
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: he has no plans to staying long term, and because

956
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: of that, he has to know that like he he

957
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: hasn't said, like, well, maybe I'm the quarterback in the

958
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: next year and if I play well enough, give me

959
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: a contract. It's like Sideam's the guy. So I think

960
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: that's why they're either a protecting him, not wanting to

961
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: get hurt or be not wanting to cause a quarterback controversy.

962
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so you think Sindham's not going to play in

963
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: this game, even if Cam, If Cam, I think.

964
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: They're going to play Hooyer. I think that they're gonna

965
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: be stubborn about this, and I think until he struggles,

966
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 2: until he sucks, in which he probably will, I think

967
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: that they will then turn around and go to stidheam

968
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: in it in an emergency if they have to, but

969
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: I think it's their preference to play Hoyer.

970
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: And with that, let's say there is no Camp. Let's

971
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: say they do go with Hoyer and maybe we find

972
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: out about it before time locks. There's no Stevan Gilmore

973
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: in this game because he's on COVID and there's probably

974
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: not gonna be locked. So you're dealing with Brett Rippon.

975
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: I get it, but he.

976
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: Didn't look that bad till the second half.

977
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: Would you take and a half ten and a half?

978
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

979
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: I would, yeah, because that was my first instinct, YE

980
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: was I might take the Broncos here. What if it's Stidham,

981
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: though you don't like it.

982
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: If it's Stidham, I'm a little more concerned because I

983
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: think the Hey can play, but without Gilmore, I think

984
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna I think Judy could go off, right, So

985
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: I think there's the potential to have a big game

986
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: for the wide receivers against the Patriots defense. And let's

987
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: be frank, the Patriots always put up a huge fight

988
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,479
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs because they spend in you know, three

989
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: weeks prepping for that game, and then the Broncos don't

990
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 2: get the same attention and you're expecting to run the ball.

991
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: I think Damien Harris is going to be an absolute monster,

992
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: so I think he had one hundred yards. It was

993
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: the first game the Patriots lost. It was They're now

994
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: fifty to two in their last fifty two games when

995
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: they have a rusher goal for for one hundred or

996
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: more yards, so that it is really rare for them

997
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: to have a one hundred yard rusher and lose. So

998
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna run the ball a lot with

999
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: with Harrods and that shrinks the game, and that could

1000
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: factor into a ten point victory. And we went on

1001
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: a hook. So I don't mind the ten and a

1002
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: half there. I feel that's that's a pretty heavy number.

1003
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might be willing to do that one. Okay,

1004
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: let's I think there's only one game that we haven't

1005
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: talked about, and that is the Saints ling eight and

1006
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: a half to the Charters.

1007
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: So this is a I don't like this number, all right. Yeah,

1008
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: but justin Herbert getting named the starting quarterback for the

1009
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: Chargers for the rest of the year, I think is

1010
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: a pretty significant rallying CRI as they head to New Orleans.

1011
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: Because it's his guy, it's his job, it's his team.

1012
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: There's no more looking over your shoulder, and you get

1013
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: to go and build that rapport, in that relationship with

1014
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: the with your teammates, and you're Mike Williams and say, hey,

1015
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 2: this is guys Hunter, Henry, this is who we're gonna

1016
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: go and this is our guy now. And I don't

1017
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 2: like this Saints offense. Eight and a half's pretty heavy

1018
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: if I don't like the game. But if I had

1019
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: to bet it, I'll dike the Chargers.

1020
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, I don't like it. It's a stay away

1021
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: from me. I get it. You're making good points. I

1022
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: don't want to you don't want to bet really on

1023
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins in primetime. I don't really want to bet

1024
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: against Drew Breese in primetime a girl, though I know,

1025
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: I know there wasn't a good performance a couple of

1026
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Okay, So here's what we're looking at, Matt.

1027
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: We got one game that we're both like, yep, we're

1028
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: good on, and that's the Colt slang one and a

1029
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: half to the Browns. I think we should probably write

1030
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: in the Steelers laying seven and a half to the Eagles,

1031
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: because I do like that one. So I'll put that

1032
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: one in in pen. After that, we've got a bunch

1033
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: of sort of questionable ones, and I guess what we're

1034
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: gonna do here is we'll maybe we'll just say that

1035
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: we'll wait it and we'll tweet it out because we'in

1036
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: at Dan Harris Adi Sports Talk, Matt. Here are the

1037
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: ones that are under consideration. The Broncos getting ten and

1038
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: a half from the Patriots, which is heavily under consideration

1039
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: if Cam is out, especially, and then we'll figure that out.

1040
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: The Washington football team getting seven and a half from

1041
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: the Rent if Chase Young plays. We also kind of

1042
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: lean that way. The Bengals getting thirteen and a half

1043
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: from the Ravens, which I feel sick about. But I

1044
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: am starting to lean that way. And the Panthers getting

1045
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: two and a half from the Falcons, which we both

1046
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: agree is to public play, and I'm just more on

1047
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: the I'm okay to take a public play this year ticket? Yeah,

1048
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: oh yeah, so if you're good with that when I

1049
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: put it.

1050
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: In, but ticket, I mean, I'm okay, I'm okay with it.

1051
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: I mean again, it's I was always arguing with friends

1052
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: of mine who like the Falcons and have been I

1053
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: have one friend in particular that really is a sharp

1054
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: guy who loves the Falcons for whatever reason. He thinks

1055
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: that they just get tons of value because everybody thinks

1056
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: they stink. But I think I think they stink. So

1057
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: it's like it's like, great, you could have all the

1058
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: value you want on the line and the numbers, but

1059
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 2: I think I just think the Falcons stink.

1060
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: Right, and they're so banged up. So I think those

1061
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: three the Steelers link seven and a half to the Eagles,

1062
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: the Colts getting one and a half, laying one and

1063
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: a half to the Browns, and the Panthers getting two

1064
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: and a half from the Falcons just pretty much in.

1065
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 2: But real quick. For the record, I have bet against

1066
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: the Panthers the last two weeks and lost. Yeah, if

1067
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: I bet we bet on them and they lose this

1068
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: week out, they become my new Texans.

1069
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: That's fine. I'll take that. I'll take that. I don't

1070
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 1: I don't have a good feel for that either.

1071
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: I want I'm part of them the rest of the year.

1072
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: They are eighty six. We're not dealing with the Panthers anymore.

1073
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think that's fair about it.

1074
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: All right, that's different Today and Matt mentioned that he

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Speaker 1: host a Daily Juice podcast, which I said in the

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Speaker 1: beginning to that is a great podcast, and I really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it every morning when you wake up Matt sort

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Speaker 1: of and his little community which he's got. Now if

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Speaker 1: you go on Twitter you can see hashtag you can

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Speaker 1: see everything you go through, the best bets of the day.

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Speaker 1: It's a really good listen. Also again eleven a m

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Speaker 1: Eastern eight am Pacific on Sunday mornings, Matt does a

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Speaker 1: full show, breaking them the slate and giving prop bets.

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Speaker 1: I always give him a couple as well in addition

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Speaker 1: to what he's been doing. He's been really successful. So

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Speaker 1: go check it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty good too.

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Speaker 1: By the way, thanks.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's part. It's like my job is to

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Speaker 1: project players for Fantasy.

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Speaker 2: I mean you gave me. I I message you about

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Speaker 2: the one of the props for the under on Ezekiel

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Speaker 2: Elliott that I thought was accurate, and you were you

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Speaker 2: nailed it. I mean I said, yeah, it was eighty

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Speaker 2: five and a half. You said seventy three. I think

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Speaker 2: he ran for fifty five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I did have that one always makes

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Speaker 1: me nervous going against Zeke, but yeah, so I will

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Speaker 1: give Mad some as I usually do on Sunday nights

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Speaker 1: on Saturday nights, and he can relate to the audience.

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Speaker 1: But definitely check it out YouTube dot com slash Betting Pros.

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Speaker 1: Subscribe you'll see it every live stream every Sunday morning,

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Speaker 1: Eastern time at eleven. In the meantime, we are going

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Speaker 1: to put in our picks as we'll wait and I'll

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Speaker 1: tweet them out when we make our final decisions, usually

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night, and we will talk to you next week,

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Speaker 1: doing the same thing for week six.