1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: My name is Matt. Our compatriot Noel is on adventures, 6 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: but we'll be returning. They called me Ben. We're joined 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: as always with our super producer, all mission control decads. 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: Most importantly, you are you. You are here, and that 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: makes this stuff they don't want you to know. Matt. 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: I don't often say this, uh, because I don't want 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: to be alarmist, but today's episode is something that everyone 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: needs to pay close attention to. Uh. This is an 13 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: ongoing situation. This is a serious situation, and it's one, frankly, 14 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: that we could use your help with. We meaning not 15 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: just Matt and Paul and myself, um, but everyone listening, 16 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: especially parents with young children. Let's start with something wholesome. 17 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: You will be glad we did. I can aassure you so, Matt, 18 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: you remember the Gerber Baby. I do remember the Gerber Baby. 19 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: I've recently seen the Gerber Baby as of several years ago, 20 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: when I was taking their products and putting them into 21 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: my son. Yes. Yeah, the Gerber baby is probably one 22 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: of the most famous babies in modern history. And like 23 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: the Marlborough Man of old, the Gerber baby is actually 24 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: several different babies, uh, since night or so, the companies 25 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: used this adorable face of this type to sell their 26 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: products to parents around the US and the world old. 27 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: The interesting fact, for a long time, the identity of 28 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: the actual baby was a secret until the late seventies, 29 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: but as the years went on, the company began holding 30 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: these wildly popular contests to choose the next Gerber baby. 31 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: So there are there are probably people in the crowd 32 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: today who were contestants in that, you know, without their consent. 33 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: Of course, it was their parents or people who have said, hey, 34 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: my baby's cute, babe, my baby is Gerber baby cute. 35 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: In some ways, it's like this American tradition now and 36 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna stand the test of time, But not 37 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: for the reason you might think it's gonna stand the 38 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: test of time, because nowadays Gerber is a subsidiary of 39 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: another much much larger company, Yeah, one that we've talked 40 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: about before. For us, it was in the context of water, 41 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: which they are very much known for, and there's also 42 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: a lot of water and gerber products, but that doesn't 43 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: mean that's why we're talking about them. The company you'll 44 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: remember is Nestle, known for their chocolate, the activities they 45 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: engage in to get that chocolate from a bean state 46 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: to your local grocery store. Known of course for bottled 47 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: water and their extensive work in that regard. We've covered 48 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: these as as Matt said in previous episodes, but did 49 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: you know conspiracy realists that Nestley is also this country's 50 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: largest purveyor of baby food, just the umbrella term baby food. 51 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: That's where our story begins. It's a story that we 52 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: have all been characters in, whether our part in the 53 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: story started when we were four to six months of age, 54 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: when babies typically begin eating solid food, or whether our 55 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: story starts later in life when we were parents, babysitters, 56 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: elder siblings, or guardians. This industry, at some point in 57 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: some way affects every single person on the planet. So 58 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Let's dive in. Here are the facts. 59 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: Baby food, Yeah, baby food. A lot of times, the 60 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: first food is milk from your mother. If you're a mammal, 61 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: that's generally how the story goes, but for a myriad 62 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: of reasons, that's not always in the cards for everyone. 63 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: So there are things like baby products, baby formula, baby food, 64 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: and like Ben said, around four to six months, that 65 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: food starts to change. And my goodness, we were all 66 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: babies and we all need food, and it is a 67 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: difficult thing to make baby food for your own child 68 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: on a daily, weekly, monthly basis. So that and that 69 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: means there's a lot of baby food, and it means 70 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 1: that it's a large market essentially, lots of people trying 71 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: to buy different baby food, which means it's a huge 72 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: competitive industry, lots of companies trying to buy for that 73 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: market share and retail sales in the baby food segment. 74 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: We're about seventy one point four billion US dollars in WOW, 75 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: and it's expected that in three years that number seventy 76 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: one point four billion dollars will jump to ninety eight 77 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: point nine billion dollars um And that's that jump is 78 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of reasons, everything from inflation to the 79 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: number of people actually eating the baby food. There. There's 80 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff that goes into that projection, but 81 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: it is going to grow and we're getting some of 82 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: these from STATISTICA. So those numbers you just heard our us. 83 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: But UH, this projection, Uh, this projection has a lot 84 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: of different factors that can come into play. I love 85 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: that you pointed that Outmatt. We're not just talking about 86 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: projected births. Were also talking about parts of the world 87 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: where people have rising income. So people who were traditionally 88 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: having to make baby food at home can maybe now 89 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: spend a little bit more of that extra income at 90 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: the grocery store buying these products. In China officially became 91 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,119 Speaker 1: the largest single market for baby food. UH. India comes 92 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: in second place. The US ranks six one incredibly depressing 93 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: US baby food fact I found because, as you know, Matt, 94 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm not conventionally reading about baby food. Uh. Baby food, dude, 95 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: it is one of the most frequently shoplifted items in 96 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: the entirety of the US. That's that. That is a 97 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: statement that is true and has uh an anthology of 98 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: heartbreaking stories behind it. You know, it reminds me of 99 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: that old short story that so often attributed unprovably to 100 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: Hemingway for sale baby shoes never worn. Yeah, Hemingway, you 101 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: got it right, and it's not always shoplifting. Many times 102 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: it's oh wow, this kid grew a lot faster than 103 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: we expected. My son went I think he had he's 104 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: had two pairs of shoes now that we bought for him. 105 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: He tried them on war him for about a week 106 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: and then it was over and he couldn't wear them anymore. 107 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: And that's just how it goes. But yeah, you're right, 108 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: there are a lot of reasons why, through circumstances, you 109 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: may have to turn to getting food for your baby, 110 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: or you know something that you need for your baby 111 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: and you just can't afford it. It's it's terrible. Yeah, 112 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: Necessity is one of the greatest motivators for the breaking 113 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: of social norms right where the breaking of laws. So 114 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: let's look at the players in the baby food industry 115 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: right now. If you look at baby food in general, 116 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: and you include infant formula which can replace the mother's 117 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: milk that that you have mentioned, Matt, you will see 118 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: that this market is largely dominated it by three outfits Nestley, 119 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: a group called Brecket ben Keiser also known as Mead Johnson, 120 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: and another one that I wasn't too familiar with. I 121 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: don't know if you had heard of the Matt Danone, Danoni, 122 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: No I know Dannon, I don't know Danoni, d A 123 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: N O n E. I'm not sure about them. But yeah, 124 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: together those three firms control forty five cent of the 125 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: global market share when it comes to this stuff. That's 126 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: that's a lot of control for three companies. Oh, also 127 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: fact check fact check live, which we usually don't have 128 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: to do. Uh, it's a French company. It's pronounced donn 129 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: so so sorry about that for anybody who's gonna hear. Uh, 130 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: the conspiracy were unraveling and their primary objection would be 131 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: the mispronunciation there if that's what we got in front 132 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, think about that. They control almost half 133 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: of the global market share. And there are other players 134 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: in the game, of course, but these are the titans 135 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: of this industry. Ingredients regulations, all right, let's say it. 136 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:12,359 Speaker 1: Baby food I just always assumed was not considered particularly 137 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: appetizing to many adults or many kids for that matter. Uh. 138 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: I was somewhat incorrect in that assumption. I found that 139 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: there there's a a whole wealth of literature of recipes 140 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: that use baby food as ingredients for for adults, and 141 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: there's some adults like baby food either way, it's not 142 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: going to hurt you if you eat it as an adult. 143 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: It does play this vital role in childhood development, like 144 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: you were saying, Matt, and I remember you know when 145 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: when your son was even younger, you were like, this 146 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: kid is growing so fast. I'm like, that's a wholesome 147 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: and a heart roar. I mean, and you're like, no, dude, 148 00:09:53,600 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: I have to buy clothes and stuff. Yeah, Like right 149 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: now he's out of clothes essentially because he's outgrown them 150 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: over the past couple of months. And my goodness it is. 151 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: It's not cheap, you guys. Thank goodness for places. Oh 152 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna blank on the name now Kid to kid, 153 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: I think is what it's called places like that where 154 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: it's hand me down clothes that because all these parents, everyone, 155 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: you are probably in the same situation out there where 156 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: you just you need to get rid of these clothes. 157 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: You need to get new clothes. You can trade them. 158 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: Kid to kid not sponsored by them, but they're great. 159 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: It is so true. And and this baby food is 160 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: highly important, as you said, for the for the nutrition 161 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: of these children. And I'm gonna have to point out 162 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: some of the newer baby foods at least newer to 163 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: me since I become a parent. Are actually pretty good. 164 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: It's essentially like a fruit and vegetable smoothie, but it's 165 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: more of a puree than um, you know, um, a 166 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: juice or something, and it's actually pretty tasty because it's 167 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: just you know, you're you're getting actual strawberries in there. Um, 168 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 1: it's not so bad. At least it doesn't taste immediately 169 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: so bad. Yeah, there we go. I mean kids, human 170 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: kids grow at a breakneck pace and have need a 171 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: steady supply of nutritious food. This is not a hot take. 172 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: The multiple a multitude of studies show that a lack 173 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: of proper nutrition, even in one specific area where another, 174 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: can have these damaging permanent effects on people throughout the 175 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: rest of their lives. Malnutrition is a great example, like 176 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: if you look at certain generations of people born in 177 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: South Korea and people born in the DPRK, you'll notice 178 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: that there is a observable, statistically consistent difference in height 179 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: because residents of the DPRK the vast majority for time 180 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: where lavery under food and security. So everybody knows this 181 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: is true. Everybody knows this is not the part that's 182 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: a hot take. These are just the facts, folks. In 183 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: the US, there's an outfit called the Center for Food 184 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: Safety and Applied Nutrition. They're responsible for the regulation of 185 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: infant formula specifically admit a number of other things. So 186 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: we have people with eyes on this, and even the 187 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: most extreme opponents of big government in the audience, even 188 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: even the most extreme of libertarians, can see the value 189 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: inherent in having some sort of authority keeping eye on 190 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: food manufacturers here. So this should be the opposite of 191 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: a hot button or controversial issue, right, yeah, of course, 192 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: why why would there be any problems here? I mean, right, 193 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: there is a problem, and it's a problem that's been 194 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: around for a while, and we're gonna tell you exactly 195 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: what it is and how bad it is. Right after 196 00:12:51,960 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsor. Here's where it gets crazy. So, uh, 197 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: contamination baby food. It's real thing. It's not some alarmist 198 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: opinion whatever. There was a landmark congressional study just released 199 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: earlier this month. As Matt and I record this on 200 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: February four, Congress found that despite the existence of some regulations, 201 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: literal tons and tons and tons of baby food products 202 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: are contaminated such that you probably want to think twice 203 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: before you give them to your children. This wasn't an 204 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: isolated incident, folks. This was not like Company A, some 205 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: factory for Company A had a bad day, or got 206 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: some crap carrots and used them anyway, or some apple 207 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: cherry puree. I don't even know if that's a thing, Matt. 208 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: But instead this study they found that a wealth of 209 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: baby food products are contaminated with something called toxic heavy 210 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: metals inorganic arsenic, lead, cadmium, and mercury in particular. And 211 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: these aren't the only toxic heavy metals that historically have 212 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: been found in foods, especially in baby foods, but these 213 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: four are the ones that are focused on in this 214 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: congressional study, and the four metals they're bad, you guys. 215 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: All four are considered by the WHO to be the 216 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: top in the top ten chemicals of concern when it 217 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: comes to children, infants and younger younger children. Um. All 218 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: of them have been linked to things like cancer, chronic 219 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: diseases of all sorts of neurotoxic effects, learning disabilities, all 220 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: kinds of things, and their detrimental effects are way worse 221 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: for developing brains for young brains as compared to adults 222 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, grown grown folks such as us. Um, 223 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: it's I mean, I am again in this episode, we're 224 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: gonna make a little bit light of some of this 225 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: in order to get through it. But this is very, 226 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: very serious and we're going to take it seriously. Yeah, 227 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean consider, I know, as soon as a lot 228 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: of us heard that the L word, as soon as 229 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: a lot of us heard lead in baby food, were 230 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: thinking of the longitudinal studies linking crime to early lead exposure, 231 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: right often through pipes and you know, some water systems 232 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: and so on. But yeah, it gets worse, It gets much, 233 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: much worse. According to Representative Rajah Krishna Morte, who is 234 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: the chairman of the Subcommittee on Economic and Consumer Policy, 235 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: the congressional investigation that the subcommittee conducted quote revealed that 236 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: manufacturers knowingly sell, not sold, knowingly sell tainted baby food 237 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: to unsuspecting parents in spite of internal company test results 238 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: showing high levels of these toxic metals without any warning labels, right, 239 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: which from a pure profit motive makes sense. You're a parent, 240 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: You're going to you have to buy some kind of 241 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: baby food. You pick up two items next each other 242 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: on the shelf, you'll flip them around, look at the ingredients, 243 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: and one of them has a warning that says may 244 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: contain lead, which what are you gonna go for? You know, yeah, 245 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: or you know, may contain lead, arsenic, cadmium, and other 246 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: terrible things like mercury. Um. Yeah, you're not gonna buy that. Um. 247 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: And there we're gonna we're gonna break this stuff down 248 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: even further in their reasons why there are no labels 249 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: on there, and there are also reasons why that the 250 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: testing that has done why these companies is flawed. But 251 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: for now, what it does mean is that the manufacturers 252 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: of a lot of these baby foods were aware that 253 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: these substances were in their products, and they still let 254 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: let them get purchased, and they still manufactured them, and 255 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: they just kept going UM because that they knew that 256 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: there were potential dangers. And it doesn't mean that these 257 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: at least right now. If you're a parent listening to 258 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: this and you probably just fed your child some something 259 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: from beech nut or Gerber or whoever it was, UM, 260 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean your baby is immediately in you know, 261 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: in peril because of this. It doesn't mean your child 262 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: is at risk right now, in this moment because you've 263 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: had them one thing, a baby food, but it does 264 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: mean feeding them over time could be a real risk. 265 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: And the companies that sold it to you new uhs 266 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: and kept doing it. That's just in the US, but 267 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: around the world they were explicitly aware of the potential 268 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: dangers here. So according to a guy named Dr Leonardo Trussande, 269 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: who is a professor of pediatric at the n y 270 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: U Grossman School of Medicine also the director of the 271 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: Center for the Investigation of Environmental Hazards over at n 272 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: y U. According to this doctor, critics have been raising 273 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: concerns about the possibility of this contamination for years. This 274 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: is not breaking news to the public. I mean it 275 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: definitely wasn't breaking news to the company's There was a 276 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 1: nonprofit organization still around called Clean Label Project, and they 277 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: release findings from a study they had commissioned that showed 278 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: the same thing we're talking about today. I think they 279 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: focused specifically on arsenic lead and mercury and their findings 280 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: and they found these again in the leading brand brand 281 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: name products for infant formula and baby food. And then 282 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: there was another study that came out just last year. Wait, No. 283 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: Two years ago. Now this came out in Yes, Yes, 284 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: study from Healthy Babies Bright Futures came out in October 285 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: of nineteen. They took it a step further from the 286 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: seventeen study. They looked at a hundred and sixty eight 287 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: baby foods. They were looking for the same stuff arsenic, led, mercury, academy, um, 288 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: and they found some terrible things. And right now, if 289 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: you go online and search I think how I found 290 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: it was toxic baby food, that's a good way to 291 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: find it. Or just look up that organization Healthy Babies 292 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: Bright Futures, you can find what we're about to tell you. Um. 293 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: They found of all of these foods that they tested 294 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: contained at least one of the heavy metals, and one 295 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: and four of the baby foods contained all four. So 296 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: a quarter of that hundred and sixty eight different types 297 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: of baby food contained all four heavy metals. Yeah, and 298 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: amid these metals, lead was the worst offender. So we 299 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: we know a lot about how lead can affect developing 300 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: human minds. Uh, of the baby foods tested contains some 301 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: degree of lead, Cadmium and arsenic followed. They were in 302 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: about three quarters around three quarters of all the baby 303 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: food tested, and you're always thinking that, uh, maybe there's 304 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: a way for manufacturers to spin things that contain I 305 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: don't think you could get away with this with lead, 306 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: too many people know about it. But if what if 307 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: you change to the label to now with ten more cadmium. 308 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: Cadmium sounds just enough like calcium that people would be fooled. 309 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: If you used a selective font, you can probably get 310 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: away with it. Make it papilous, make it something classy. 311 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: Uh right, So, uh, mercury was the least common of these. 312 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: Mercury was in less than a little less than one 313 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: third of the food tested, so comparatively, I guess that's 314 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: not so bad. This is stark. But you can find 315 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: like one other thing they found that is useful for 316 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: any parent listening today is that, um, some foods were 317 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: more likely to have this stuff. And we'll also explain 318 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: why later in today's episode. Yeah, well, we'll talk about 319 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: rice in particular, which is something that tends to have 320 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: more arsenic So rice based cereals and snacks were particularly 321 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: high in the stuff. And juices, dude, there have been 322 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: so many studies over the years about juices and and 323 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: it's for the same things we're going to talk about today, 324 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: the same processes that these heavy metals get into these products. 325 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: We're going to tell you about that. But juice is good. Lord. 326 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: Cranberry juice, you guys, was my absolute, all time favorite 327 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: thing for so many years, and now I'm just thinking twice. 328 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: I feel like my i Q has been reduced several points, 329 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: at least according to some of the studies, because of 330 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: the amount of cranberry I have taken into my body. 331 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: Well wait, wait, doctors recommend the cranberry juice for people 332 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: with kidney problems. Yeah, well, I guess where heavy metals 333 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: go your kidneys. I'm just choking. Oh my god, I'm 334 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: just joking. I'm kind of joking about that part. But 335 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: I really did drink a lot of cranberry juice. Um. 336 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: Another thing, are like tubers, especially sweet potatoes, things that 337 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: grow in the ground root vegetables. They can be especially 338 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: dangerous as well. Yeah, which has got to be a 339 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: surprise for a lot of us, because rice snacks are 340 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: often sold as a healthy alternative, right um, to various things. 341 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: And of course they're all over I almost said the 342 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: cereal community. They're all over the big cereal brands you know, 343 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: because rice is an inexpensive food stuff and it can 344 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: be very nutritious. So four of the seven rice cereals 345 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: that are specifically for infants that the study tested UH 346 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: contained inorganic arsenic, and that's the more toxic form of 347 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: of this metal. The levels of arsenic, of this type 348 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: of arsenic that we're in there exceeded the FDA's proposed 349 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: limit of one parts per billion. So the FDA for 350 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: this arsenic for this case does have a proposed limit, 351 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: which is, hey, guys, like you're talking allowed kids at 352 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: a dorm, Hey, guys, keep your arsenic levels down to 353 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: one parts per billion. Um. We're going to talk about 354 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: the FDA and baby foods. Yeah, only there is a 355 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: little bit of light in the tunnel, but it's faint 356 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: and it's distant. Of the one hundred and sixty eight 357 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: baby foods tested, some were found not to contain traces 358 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 1: of any of these four medals. Exactly nine baby foods 359 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: of a hundred and sixty eight were found to be clean. 360 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: So these studies are in large part what prompted this 361 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: congressional investigation. And in the course of this investigation, the 362 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: Congress has seven of the largest maybe food producers in 363 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: the US to give their own internal documents and their 364 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: own test results, because naturally, you know, part of being 365 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: a food company and selling to the public means that 366 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: you have to have internal testing. There are safety standards 367 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: of some sort you have to meet. Here's the thing, though, Matt. 368 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: Four companies replied to the request, Nurture, Beechnut, Hayne, and Gerber, 369 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: But a couple of companies just didn't do it. Imagine that, like, 370 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: what level are you at when Congress ask you for 371 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: something and you go, ah, well, you're at Walmart level? Right? 372 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: Specifically Sure, which is one of the companies that did 373 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: not respond all So Campbell, like Campbell Soup, they produced 374 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: quite a bit of baby food as well as Sprout 375 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: Organic Foods, which I have to say is one of 376 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: the biggest brands that my family chose to feed our son, uh, 377 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: which troubles me greatly, But that's okay, that's okay. So yeah, 378 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: they didn't respond. They didn't They didn't give the investigators anything, um, 379 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: and it made them, you know, the people were looking 380 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: into this quote greatly concerned. Yeah, and that's that is 381 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: a verbatim quote, but it doesn't doesn't quite nail the 382 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 1: reaction that people people would be having, right. So, uh, 383 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: several of the companies we should not to be fair 384 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: I have released public statements in response to this or 385 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: have responded to members of the media asking them about it. 386 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: You can read those statements online. They are pretty much 387 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: exactly what you expect, which is uh. The gist is 388 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: we test rigorously for any materials or anything that can't 389 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: legally be included in this stuff. Or the way it 390 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: will sometimes be phrased is we rigidly adhere to all 391 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: federal guidelines something or FDA standards or something like that. 392 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: And one of the major things you'll read in these 393 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: statements is that they test each product as it comes in. 394 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: So one of the major things we're going to continue 395 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: on here is that they test the carrot when it 396 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: comes in and gets ready for the manufacturing process. They 397 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: test the apple, they test you know, the individual foods. 398 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: The big question though, is are they actually testing the 399 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: end product and where where are those numbers? Because that's 400 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: what this investigation was looking at the actual product and 401 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: the containers to write that's how they would That's some 402 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: of the metrics the studies use, or some of the 403 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: language so specific Examples of this kind of stuff include 404 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: a or speech not gerber, that's a bummer, Plum Organics, 405 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: parents Choice, Manny Manny, many many more. And I know 406 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: these names are familiar to a lot of folks listening 407 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: to the show today, and maybe to my co host, Dude, 408 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: I know the plumb Organics one too. Do you, as 409 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: a parent like you're trying to You're trying to give 410 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: your kid the best stuff. No matter who you are, 411 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: no matter where you are, you want to give your 412 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: kid the best stuff you can afford. And you know 413 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: the best foods. You have access to the healthiest things. 414 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: And I swear to you, man, a lot of these 415 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: foods market themselves and convey They market themselves as being healthy. 416 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: They convince you as a parent that you're doing the 417 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: right thing. And I'm not saying that you're doing the 418 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: wrong thing by feeding your kids these things. It's just 419 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: it's a it feels like a real betrayal knowing that 420 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: they knew right right. And of course none of this 421 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: is medical advice. We're just we're giving you the lay 422 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: of the lay of this um disturbing land. So how 423 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: how about this We should point out that there doubtlessly 424 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: other products out there containing these poisons. This is the 425 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: beginning of what may end up being an even larger list. 426 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: We're going to pause for a word from our sponsor 427 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: and will return to talk a little bit about how 428 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: we as a society got here, the potential health effects, 429 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: and what if anything, you can do as an individual 430 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: or your communities can do as a group to combat 431 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: this problem. We're back. The danger here is not theoretical. 432 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: The danger here has proven. It is clear these substances 433 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: can cause harm to a baby's developing brain and nervous system, 434 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: both while they're in utero and after birth. Impacts can 435 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: include things like the permanent loss of intellectual capacity, and 436 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: they've also been linked to things like a d h 437 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: D or autism. All four of these antagonists in this 438 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: story are linked to i Q loss from exposures early 439 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: in life. The evidence is here. There's hard science behind it. 440 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: The science behind it spans decades. The research is ongoing, 441 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: and it keeps proving the same stuff. There were at 442 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: least twenty three studies published in the last seven or 443 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: eight years that confirm the impact specifically of these toxic 444 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: heavy metals on the healthy development of children. These studies 445 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: are available. These studies are things that manufacturers of baby 446 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: food would have been well aware of at the time, 447 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: at least in part it appears, according to congress because 448 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: their own internal testing confirmed it. Yeah, so let's let's 449 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: let's now jump to the f d A and like, 450 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: what do they say? What are what are the safe 451 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: levels of some of these heavy metals? Are there any 452 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: safe levels? What does that look like? How do you 453 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: measure that kind of stuff? Well, in order to get 454 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: a handle on this, we are forced to look at 455 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: drinking water statistics and FDA gu FDA guidelines and a 456 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: couple like E p A guidelines for drinking water. So, 457 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: according to this Congressional report, and according to the Food 458 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: and Drug Administration, the f d A has a limit 459 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: allowable level of some of this stuff in bottled water. 460 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: So when you're talking about when you're talking about arsenic, 461 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: it's ten parts per billion of this inorganic arsenic, this 462 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: particular type of the metal. When you're talking about lead, 463 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: it's capped at five parts per billion as the allowable amount, 464 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: and academium five parts per billion. Okay, so really low 465 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: ten five and five parts per billion to be safe 466 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: in drinking water. The E p A. When it looks 467 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: at this has capped the allowable level of mercury and 468 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: drinking water at two parts per billion. Again almost nothing, 469 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: almost zero. Um. But then we got to look at 470 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: the test results of these baby foods and it is 471 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: pretty astounding the levels that were found. Right the test 472 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: results four baby food and their ingredients. Back to your 473 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: earlier point, Matt h. Congress says, they eclipse those levels. 474 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: There are results that are up to nine U one 475 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: times the allowable level of arsenic again embottled water, up 476 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: to a hundred and seventy seven times the level of lead, 477 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 1: sixty nine times nice the level of cadmium, and up 478 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: to five times the level of mercury. And again remember 479 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: we said mercury is the one that seems to a 480 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: or the least often. So why are we using bottled water? Why? 481 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: Why did why did you say we're forced to use 482 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: the standards for bottled water. Well, that's because there are 483 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: no f d A standards for these heavy metals in 484 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: baby food. Um, they don't, they don't exist. There are 485 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: no standards for them. That's wild because of their babies. Sorry, 486 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: sorry that was at the meter. Yeah, it's just it 487 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: feels like insanity. I don't understand. Yeah, it's unacceptable. And 488 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, we want to be clear when we're talking 489 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: about institutions doing this kind of stuff. We're not saying, uh, 490 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: you working for the FDA or your friend working for 491 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: the f d A is somehow inherently a bad person. 492 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: These are things that happen collectively with institutions. There. Maybe 493 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: there were some lobbyists putting their thumb on the scale. 494 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: I would not at this point be in the least surprised. Um, 495 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: maybe there was just uh, an overwhelming amount of paperwork. 496 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: But the end result is that kids are literally eating 497 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: lead and cat or snake and mercury. So that is 498 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: where we are now. There are some proposed limits, but 499 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: the FDA doesn't have these hard limits in That's why 500 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: we had to compare it to bottled water. What is 501 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: to be done? Well, as we said at the top, 502 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: this does not have an easy answer. There's not one 503 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: particular institution that can correct it. If the f d 504 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: A came back today and said these levels have to 505 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: be this, then manufacturers would of course be legally bound 506 00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: to scramble to meet those constraints. But look, it's it's 507 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: so easy to make someone the bad guy. It's not 508 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: as if these manufacturers are like sitting around on their 509 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: coffee break from their Illuminati meeting or their Bohemian grove 510 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: meeting and saying, you know, it would be fun if 511 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: you're real, like a real kick for all of us. Uh, 512 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: since we're out of adrenal chrome, why don't we just 513 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: start adding stuff to baby food. They didn't think about 514 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: it like that. They didn't scheme to purposefully put dangerous 515 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: substances in your children's food. That food comes from somewhere else. 516 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: It doesn't come from those factories, right, It comes from 517 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: the soil, and that food grows in the soil using 518 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: nutrients and using water. When the land and the water 519 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: and the air are contaminated, then we are already starting 520 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: out at a fundamental disadvantage in the supply chain. Even 521 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: if you're a billion dollar company. Right now, there are 522 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: only so many places in the world old where you 523 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: can get certain crops. It's true, that's just the reality. 524 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: It's not to take. So these substances are also all 525 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: elements that are occurring in the wild now because they've 526 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: been frequently used in pesticides like the last century or 527 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: so and they didn't ever go away. They're still in 528 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: the soil, they're still in the groundwater, even if they 529 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: stopped being used in pesticides a decades ago. That doesn't 530 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: mean that doesn't mean the the missteps of the past 531 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: were somehow negated and the billing bill and short comes due. Yeah, 532 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: that's very true. And there's also a lot of these 533 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 1: particularly lead that were just pumped out into the air 534 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: through automobiles for a long time. When you're when you're 535 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: thinking about diesel and the lead that was contained in 536 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: their lead paint, all kinds of lead products that just 537 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: ended up in the environment. Uh, there are a lot 538 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: of reasons that the soil itself, as you said, ben 539 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: is going to be contaminated, because the air was contaminated, 540 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: because the water was contaminated at some point, because X 541 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: was contaminated at some point. It continues to be polluted 542 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: and contaminated. And it's um it's it is a very 543 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: tough situation knowing that, knowing that I think it's around 544 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: one percent of the Earth's land area is actually able 545 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 1: to be or to be used for producing crops. It's 546 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: a very small amount of the earth that humanity can 547 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: actually use to grow its food. And you know, what 548 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: are you gonna do when you can't use it? Let alone? 549 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: The whole was it the phosphorus. It was the phosphorus 550 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: thing where we're running out it really it's not my mind, dude, 551 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: to take us and maybe a slightly less hopefully less 552 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: depressing tangent. Did you know that phosphorus is being considered 553 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: as one of the markers of possible life on other 554 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: planets or intelligent life like in the search in the 555 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: search for stuff we've been the human species has been 556 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: looking for uh, evidence of water, evidence of other things 557 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: like carbon, etcetera. But phosphorus may end up being the key. 558 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: It's more important than a lot of people think. And 559 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: don't don't let them fool you, Ben. They're just looking 560 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: for phosphorus so that we can take it and bring 561 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: it back here because we need it. Phosphorus heist and 562 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: down I would be. I would crue on that mission. 563 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: According to the World Bank, the percentage of arable land 564 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: the world percentage of the world's total land area that 565 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: could be considered agricultural. It's pretty high, it's thirty seven 566 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: point seven. But the part that can be considered arable land, 567 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: which is what I think we're really talking about is 568 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 1: only ten point six and that that number may decrease 569 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: over time, but a little better than so thank goodness, well, 570 00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: thank goodness for all. But but okay, so here's another question. 571 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: If the f d A has not set those minimal levels, 572 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: it's a messed up question. But it's when or show 573 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: has to ask, are these manufacturers breaking the law in 574 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: their conspiracy to put profits over the health of children? 575 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: It is a conspiracy totally, but is it an a 576 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: legal conspiracy at this point? That's tough. I'll have them 577 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: talk to my attorneys. Wait, I'll have to hire some attorneys. 578 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't want to get sued by these guys, 579 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, by Big Baby. No, not that so uh, 580 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: there are there are advocates who believe that there's a 581 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: strong legal case here. About a week after that report 582 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: published earlier this February, a law firm got involved. Their 583 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: name is Balm, Headland, Eresty and Goldman, and they have 584 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 1: started accepting lawsuit cases about toxic baby food for parents 585 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: who purchase food from any of those brands, uh and 586 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: have children who have been diagnosed with autism or a 587 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: d h D Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. Uh but again, 588 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 1: but again, none of that cleanses the ecosystem of these contaminants, 589 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: and from what we understand of the current science, nobody 590 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: really knows how to get the genie back in the 591 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: bottle here, or if there is a way, it's still 592 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: largely theoretical, and multiple institutions are unwilling to bear the 593 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: cost of the attempt itself. So the current hope right now, 594 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: amidst the nonprofit groups, the concerned parents, the politicians, everybody, 595 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: is that the findings of these and other studies might 596 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: spur manufacturers to do more testing and to change their practice. 597 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: Is as much as possible to get these levels down. 598 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: But then we have to ask. We have to ask 599 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: about the other folks in the in the crowd, the 600 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: other folks who are affected by this supply chain, the parents, 601 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 1: Like what if? What if you are listening to this 602 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: episode and this is the first time you're learning about this, 603 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: your first question is what the hell do I do? Now? Yeah? Yeah, 604 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: what the hell do I do? And in order to 605 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 1: discuss that, you have to talk about a few things. 606 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: The first one is that, um, it appears because of 607 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: how these heavy metals function We are talking about a 608 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: cumulative effect when it comes to these things. And it's 609 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: not a you get dosed one time by eating you know, 610 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: a particular baby food that has some arsenic in it, 611 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 1: and then now your child has issues. The problem is 612 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 1: it's cumulative. So I've been watching way too much daytime 613 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: TV where they've had experts on talking about this's been 614 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: I've been watching so much. Do you remember that show 615 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: The Doctors. They did a fairly good job actually by 616 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: having numerous experts on and getting some competing opinions here. Um, 617 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: But the takeaway from all of them together, I would 618 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: say is that pediatricians say that you just need to 619 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: if you are feeding your child baby food, you need 620 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: to just limit the number of these things they're eating 621 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: and supplement it with really fresh fruits generally, it's what 622 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: what they're saying, and grains not rice. Um. That that's 623 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: just the first thing. I'm just gonna put that out there. 624 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: That's what I have heard, and that your child is not, 625 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: you know, in danger just for eating you know, one 626 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: pouch or whatever that has some of these medals in it. 627 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: Right right, this is not a death sentence. This is 628 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: there there's a cumulative aggregate effected play with exposured almost 629 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: any substance. But it does make it there's a trust 630 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: issue then that I have, at least personally when it 631 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: comes to this stuff, because as a parent, it feels 632 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: like my trust, like the trust between me and these 633 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: baby food manufacturers has been broken. Then it's making me 634 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: question you know, the advice I'm getting from daytime TV 635 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: experts who are being paid to go on television and 636 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: you know who a lot of times are sponsored by 637 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: these big companies. Uh So it's it's tough to know. 638 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: It's really tough to know. The good thing is that 639 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: there are all kinds of resources out there online that 640 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 1: you can check out. You can educate yourself, and you 641 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 1: can make the best decisions, you know, at least for 642 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,439 Speaker 1: that you can for you and your family. Yeah. Yeah, 643 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: And and some of the nonprofits we mentioned earlier have 644 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: have advice as well on how to combat the rate 645 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: of heavy metal consumption by exactly as you describe, Matt, 646 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: finding safer alternatives to baby foods that may be on 647 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: these lists or found to contain these substances, you know, 648 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: oatmeal instead of rice, cereal or barley, etcetera. Maybe frozen 649 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: bananas to replace teething cookies or biscuits. However, as any 650 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: current or expecting parent knows, the world is full of 651 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,479 Speaker 1: advice for you. The cup of unsolicited parenting advice runneth over, 652 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: you know, like, and these sources of advice are not 653 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: created equally. Uh, don't don't be fooled. I mean you 654 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: don't don't assume that everybody's automatically a bad actor. But 655 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: don't let someone's opinion or persuasive writing fool you into 656 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: thinking what you're reading is automatically factual. Uh. It stinks 657 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: right now that the burden of researches on people who 658 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: have often us entered the busiest time of their adult 659 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: lives and are trying to like sleep occasionally. It stinks 660 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: that part of that part of that burden falls on 661 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: you as a parent, to do the digging, do the research. 662 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: To not be afraid of writing directly to companies with 663 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: questions if you don't feel like you're getting satisfactory answers, 664 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: uh searching online. The I guarantee these companies have people 665 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: whose entire job, their full time job, is to field 666 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: and answer these questions, so they will be there. Um 667 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: and then even if you find a blog that you 668 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: really like, look for the science, look for the boring stuff, 669 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: look for the numbers, look for the studies. That congressional 670 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: report is available freely online. The studies that we mentioned 671 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 1: are also freely available online. This stuff is not you know, 672 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: this is not a secret military program. Hopefully. Uh. This 673 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: stuff should all be declassified and for public consumption. And 674 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,240 Speaker 1: now we arrive at your part of the story, fellow 675 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: conspiracy realist, as bat and I said at the top, 676 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: we need your help. How do you think this contamination 677 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 1: can or should be addressed? Do these companies owe any 678 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: kind of compensation to the children and the parents involved? 679 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: I mean, how would that even work? That's a huge question. Uh. 680 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,240 Speaker 1: And and perhaps most importantly, do you have a personal 681 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: story or experience you would like to share with us 682 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: or your fellow listeners. If so, please let us know. 683 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: We try to be easy to find online. And that's right. 684 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: You can find us on Facebook and Twitter where we 685 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: are Conspiracy Stuff Conspiracy Stuff Show. 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