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The Colin Coward Podcast 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: presented by the Fan Duel Sports Book. Hi, everybody, welcome 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: in Monday Morning Podcast. I can't wait to talk to 13 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: Dave wants that today about the Big and the Bears, TUA, 14 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Justin Fields. There was just a lot of different topics. 15 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: We're nine ten days away from like the Bears opening 16 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: up camp. I saw this story and I think it's 17 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: worth talking about. Ben Lieber is a current Sideline reporter. 18 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: He's a former Minnesota Viking. One of my constant themes 19 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: has been, I think over the last year and if 20 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: you watch the Herd on TV or listening on radio, 21 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: about how the game is changing. Quarterbacks make more, they 22 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: want more. It's an offensive league. Pete Carrolla struggled. He 23 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: struggled with Russ Belichick, last couple of years with Brady 24 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Brian Flores got fired, struggled with Tua. And I was 25 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: told after the season this year. I think it was 26 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: after the season from somebody I trusted in the Minnesota 27 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: kind of ecosystem that Zimmer and Kirk Cousins really had 28 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: a chili chili relationship. And so Ben Lieber, the former 29 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: Viking linebacker, came out this weekend and said Mike Zimmer 30 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: did not like Kirk Cousins. And it's interesting because the 31 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: Vikings defense last year was ranked thirtieth and Kirk cousins 32 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: offense was ranked twelve. And the Vikings only had one 33 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: double digit loss all season. Do you know that's the 34 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: fewest in the NFL. They had eight one possession losses, 35 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: that was the most in the NFL, two more than 36 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: any other team. That's why I picked the Vikings this 37 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: year to be my surprise team in the NFL thirteen 38 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: fourteen wins. I think they're going to be great. They 39 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: got the tall Sean mcvayh as their new coach. This 40 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: is what I've been saying about Pete and Bill and 41 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: Vic Fangio, and I think Carson Wentz is going to 42 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: hear this from Ron Rivera, is that the cultures change. 43 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks make more. They want to be respected more, and 44 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: they want more of a voice. And you know, it's 45 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: funny about Kirk Cousins. Does he have a lower ceiling, Yes, 46 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: does he shrink? But if you look at the Vikings 47 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: last year, and I want you to look at him 48 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: this year, outside of the game at Buffalo, their schedules 49 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: very favorable. The tougher games are mostly at home, and 50 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: their road games are very winnable at Philly, at the Saints, 51 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: at the Dolphins, at the Commanders, really winnable games. But 52 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: I think more than that, if you've ever had a 53 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: boss who was rigid, and I think Zimmer's a good coach, 54 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: but a little rigid, and you didn't think he trusted you, 55 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: I absolutely think it affects performance. And I think Kirk Cousins, 56 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: whose personality can shrink in big games. Anyway, if you 57 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: look at their season last year, they lost a couple 58 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: of overtime games. They were just not very good late. 59 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's going to be the game changer 60 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: is that Minnesota has a Kirk got a little contract extension, 61 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: He's got an offensive coach. The offensive coach is a 62 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: fresh set of eyes and ears. And my takeaway is 63 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: this story by Ben Lieber, the former Viking linebacker, is 64 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: something I heard last year, which is and it's not 65 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: like some you know, Jake Glazer scoop here, but Zimmer 66 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins just did not connect. And I think 67 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: that's the greatest challenge for defensive coaches is that I 68 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: still think many of the principles of a defensive coach win, 69 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: but things are changing and it's becoming more of an 70 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: offensive game and you've got to lighten up. In fact, 71 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: you know, I had Cooper cup on he said he 72 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: wishes Sean McVay was meaner. You know, these Zach Taylors, 73 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Matt Lafleur, good listeners, very much 74 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: about the psychology and elevating quarterbacks, making quarterbacks feel comfortable. 75 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: It matters. And I think Kirk Cousins is going to 76 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: have a big gear. I think the Vikings are going 77 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: to have an excepptional year. And I'm gonna go out 78 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: on a limb thirteen and four or fourteen and three. 79 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: I know you think I'm out of my mind. Don't 80 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: trust the Bears. Don't trust the Lions. And they have 81 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: always since Kirk Cousins has been there, they have always 82 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: played Aaron Rodgers straight up. Let's bringing Dave Wonstat. He's 83 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: got good shit today. Well, he's one of my favorite people. 84 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: Dave Wanstat, former Bear head coach and Dolphins head coach, 85 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys. 86 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: College coach, now an analyst for the Big Ten Network. 87 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: Former USC defensive line coach. So, I was in Chicago 88 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: where you've got a place, and I did not run 89 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: into you this weekend and was bummed out about that. 90 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you something, coach, that is my 91 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: favorite food city in America. I freaking had six meals 92 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: from Thursday night to this morning, six a plus plus. God, 93 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: that's a great food city. Well, the next time you commit, 94 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm taking you to a place that's cash only. They 95 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: write the menu on a chalkboard, whatever the chef decides 96 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 1: to cook, and it's in a house in little Italy. 97 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: I just I love the I promise you we'll get 98 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: out of there alive. We'll get out of there alive. 99 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: There's just something about the people are great, the sports 100 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: is great, the food is great. I was. I went 101 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: walking for an hour fifteen this morning, all over the city. 102 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: It was humid and sticky and great. I want to 103 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: talk about the Big Ten expansion. You were now Big 104 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: Ten analysts, and you know USC. Well, listen, UCLA was 105 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: broke one hundred million in debt and USC was up 106 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: against it financially. So I get I get the reason, 107 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: but it is a different conference. You know, the Big 108 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: Ten teams are built for a little more power football 109 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: and the West Coast spreads it out. Just from a 110 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: football perspective. Do you think USC and UCLA will struggle 111 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: in those late October November games doing more power football? Well, no, 112 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think you know, even though 113 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: they threw it at Oklahoma and the Big Ten's known 114 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: quote unquote for running the football. I mean, Ryan Day 115 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: will throw it as much as anybody at Ohio State 116 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: and Lincoln Riley when he was at Oklahoma and they 117 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: had those great backs, he was not afraid to run 118 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: at forty five fifty times a game. So I don't 119 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: see an at a factor. But I'll tell you, you know, 120 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: for our viewers. You know, I said this on the 121 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: Big ten last week. I did a couple of shows 122 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: because I was a defensive coordinated at Oklahoma State with 123 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson and left there to go to USC as 124 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: a defensive line coach because of the tradition and the 125 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: winning and our second year there, we went to the 126 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: Rose Bowl beat Ohio State. It had Spielman, Chris Carter. 127 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Tom Zach was a quarterback. Keith Byers was a running 128 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: back and we upset him in the Rose Bowl and 129 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: beat them. And then Jimmy got the Miami job and 130 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: I left and went to Miami. But I told my 131 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: wife when we left, I said, this place. We've been 132 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: here three and a half years now, and every day 133 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: is kind of a learning experience. There's something else football wise, 134 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: alumni wise, culture wise that we learn about USC. And 135 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: you say, A I told the guys at the Big 136 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: Tennis because everybody's kind of on their heels right now 137 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: here in Chicago. Are you kidding me? What does UCLA 138 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: bring the table? We know USC, you know, the all 139 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: the seventeen championships, and the highsman's and all that. I said, 140 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: UCLA has one hundred and nineteen team championships, second to 141 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: none in the country. I think Stanford them maybe tie, yeah, 142 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: but I think they may have more than the entire 143 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: Big So they're getting an athletic program from top to 144 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: bottom men's women that is really really going to bring 145 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: some national at tension. I think. Yeah. Well, plus, UCLA 146 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: and USC are academically strong and yep, you know Big 147 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: ten's always been Northwestern Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan. I mean, 148 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: those are those are great schools. I think people that's 149 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: why they want Notre Dames so much. They want the 150 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: academics and the revenue. You know, people talk about and 151 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: this was a fact. Oh how about the traveling, I said, 152 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: the travelers. When I was coaching the Dolphins, we went 153 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: out and played the raiders in the Seahawks. So we 154 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: flew out Saturday, you got played the game one that 155 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: came home. I said, forget about that. I says the 156 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: team a little bit of a shell shock. Is maybe 157 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: the teams like Rutgers and some of them, that all 158 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden you're adding two teams that you've got 159 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: to play that are going to be tough to beat. 160 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: You know, just from a coaching perspective, I'm not worried 161 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: about travel. I'm worried about who can I beat on 162 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: the schedule, and you have to you know, you know 163 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: USA and USC. Obviously you're not going to be easy 164 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: game for any of those teams. Well, I've been saying 165 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: this about college football. As much as I love it, 166 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: it has a big game shortage is that there's too 167 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: many bad weekends where you get one great Big Ten 168 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: game and one great SEC game. And I'm like, I 169 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: want to watch Ohio State USC. I want to watch 170 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: Michigan UCLA, I want to watch Iowa USC. I want 171 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: more good games. And I also think we're going to 172 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: have an expanded playoff here because I think eventually people 173 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: are going to complain about two massive conferences having all 174 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: the best teams, and so I think what we'll get, coach, 175 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: is a twelve team playoff and every every conference, the 176 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: Big Twelve, the Big Ten, the SEC, the a SEC, 177 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna get three or four teams in. They won't complain. 178 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: But you know, I understand traditionalists. I'm not a traditionalist. 179 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: I understand them. I'm not gonna mock them. But I 180 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: can't wait to watch USC play Wisconsin in Iowa and Michigan. 181 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you work for that network. Those are gonna 182 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: be great games, absolutely no question about it. And I 183 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: know you know you mentioned earlier I worked for the 184 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: Big Ten Network. I think it's tripled already the subscriptions 185 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: to the Big Ten Network in out West in southern 186 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: California just because of that. So, I mean, it's gonna 187 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: be a coast to coast and draw and you don't 188 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: have to work on some links, so the games aren't 189 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: real late at night, but they could do that. That's easy. 190 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: I think the teams that have to really the challenge 191 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: are going to be the basketball team and the women's 192 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: sport you know that play. They're gonna have to go 193 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: out to the USC and play hopefully both games in 194 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: the same week, and just stay there a week to 195 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: get it done. I want to talk about the Bears 196 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: because you coach there and have you're on the air 197 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: in Chicago. So they have a new GM and a 198 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: new coach, and that GM didn't draft Justin Fields, and 199 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: that coach is a defensive coach, and Fields I think 200 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: is a big talent. But I do think he can 201 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: be mistake prone. And you know, as a defensive coach, 202 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: you guys see the world through a different prison. And 203 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm interested if you inherited a quarterback, didn't draft him, 204 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: He's not your guy, right, It's much easier to come 205 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: in and go by Thanksgiving. This ain't working. Say to 206 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: the owner, do you think it hurts Justin Fields a 207 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: little bit that this isn't the group that brought him in. 208 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: I really appreciate your comment calling of saying I see 209 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: it through a different prison rather than dame you defensor 210 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: coaches are boring, you know so seriously. But I'll tell 211 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: you what's going on right here. And you know they're 212 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: changing the defense first of all, and we'll get to 213 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: Justin Fields, but for our viewers, our listeners, that they're 214 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: going from a traditional three to four to a four three. 215 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: And Matt Eberflews, the head coach, he has that Tampa 216 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: Bay actually what we did at the Cowboys and did 217 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: at the Dolphins four three mentality. So they're they're going 218 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: to juggle it around. And everybody's saying, you know, the 219 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: Bears are publicly are coming out and saying we're not 220 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: We're not rebuilding, you know, and that's cliche. You know, 221 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: everyone wants to say we're just reloading. Barry Switzer could 222 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: say that at Oklahoma reloading and it worked, but there 223 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: there'd be real outing. And I think it's a great 224 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: decision by the general manager, Ryan Poles, the new general 225 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: manager of the Bears, because the offense is young, offensive line, quarterback, 226 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: running back, receiver, and if they do take the steps 227 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: everybody hopes to in Chicago, and they kept Khalil Mack 228 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 1: and they kept a team Hicks, and they kept Danny Trevathan, 229 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: all these older players because if contracts, injuries, whatever, they 230 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: would have been getting rid of them two years ago, 231 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: and then the defense would have been trying to catch 232 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: up with the offense. Right now, this football team is 233 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: all on the same plane and so if it works, 234 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: it's really gonna work big. So you know, and I 235 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: know this for a fact talking to some of the 236 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: offensive coaches up there. It's going to be an offensive 237 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: friendly offense. I mean, they're gonna run the ball by 238 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: that I mean, and they're gonna give Justin Fields the 239 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: best chance to develop one and to be successful. So 240 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: we're all gonna find out here about week eight if 241 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: he's the guy or not, and I hope he is. Yeah. Well, 242 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean when the Bears are good, it's better for Fox, 243 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: it's better for the league. Right. Ben Leebers in Minnesota, 244 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: Viking linebacker, a former Viking linebacker, and he came out 245 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: and said it was no secret that Mike Zimmer and 246 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins you didn't like each other a ton. So 247 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: I had heard after last year that it was a 248 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: pretty chilly relationship. The Vikings lost more close games than 249 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: any team in the NFL. Their defense was pretty good, 250 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: but they lost a couple of overtime games. And you know, 251 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: Kurt as much as his dada, his stats feel like 252 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: he's a pro bowler. He can shrink in big spots. 253 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: So I get it. But we are seeing an interesting trend. 254 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady at the end wasn't great, Pete and 255 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: Russ at the end wasn't great. Zimmer and Cousins wasn't great. 256 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: You don't hear as many of those stories with offensive 257 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: Brian Flores in Tua was reportedly brutal. Do you think 258 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: defensive coaches? And I think Zimmer's a hell of a coach. 259 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: I really think Mike was a good coach. But Dave, 260 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: the world's changed. These quarterbacks now have ten thousand snaps 261 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: by the time they're sophomores in high school. Do you 262 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: think the world's changed a little bit? They make more money, 263 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: they come in ready to play, and that you have 264 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: to coach him a little differently. Well, I don't know, yes, 265 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean I hear what you're saying. But again, as 266 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: a defensive coach, I think it all comes down to 267 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: the offense that you run. I mean the offense that 268 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: they look at Kirk and I don't know Kirk Cousins 269 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: that well. I was in a banquet with him once. 270 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: Look at his numbers, everybody from when he's been at Minnesota. 271 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: His completion percentage is almost seventy percent. He's two to 272 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: three touchdowns most of the time, three to four to interceptions. 273 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean, his quarterback rating for the four years his 274 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: Minnesota has been over one hundred percent. But their philosophy 275 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: on offense was Dalvin Cook run the ball, play defense, 276 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: and a quarterback make plays. So I'm kind of caught 277 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: it in the middle on this thing. 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He felt like a second or a 344 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: third round pick, And in fact, I had a GM 345 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: in the league. Tell me a really good GM. Tell 346 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: me we haven't graded as a middle third round pick, 347 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: but the Steelers go ahead anyway. So You've always been 348 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: a bigger Trubisky fan than I am. But I will 349 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: say this, I do think Mitch Trubisky as a bridge 350 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: quarterback is a damn good quarterback. He and Garoppolo are 351 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: great bridge quarterbacks. You win a lot of games with him. 352 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to build around him. What if what 353 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: if Pickett comes in and they're tied? Who do you 354 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: go with? They're gonna go with Pickett. I mean, I'm 355 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: convinced to that. I mean, and I think that as 356 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: close as I am to the pit program, I would 357 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: say that they practice on the same fields. Guys, I 358 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: mean for our viewers. We have four fields there. They 359 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: walk in the same door. Pit goes to the right, 360 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: stewers go to the left. Their offices are separated, their 361 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: weight rooms, all the facilities or separate. You go out 362 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: to the practice fields. The first two fields are the stewers, 363 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: the second two fields are pit and my point is 364 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: they eat right there. My point is that nobody knows 365 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: more about Kenny Pickett. Give Kevin Colbert, the general manager 366 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: of the stewers, and Mike Tomlin, the head coach, a 367 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: little bit of credit. I think they know more than 368 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: any of us. And for I like him without a 369 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: doubt in their minds. And I talked to a lot 370 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: of people in Pittsburgh. There was no question. They didn't 371 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: think that he would be there. That's the other side 372 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: of this coin. You're saying to a GM thought he'd 373 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: go in a third run. People in Pittsburgh tell me 374 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: they thought that he would be gone before they picked 375 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: twentieth or whatever it was, and they were good to 376 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: take another quarterback, a young one, so they were excited 377 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: to get him. Are you worried at all that when 378 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: they drafted him, Trubisky probably comes in. They're not paying 379 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: him much, but he thinks he's a starter. What if 380 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: Trubisky is better, not significantly, but he's a little better 381 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: understanding the system, do you still go with Pickett? What's 382 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: the line on that? No. I think that Mike tom 383 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: was going to go with whoever can win, and I 384 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: don't think he would have a problem at all slow 385 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: playing Pickett if there's a difference, and I've always said 386 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: this calling you know, seventeen years as a head coach, 387 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: the players are watching the same tape that you are. Okay, no, 388 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: really as a head coach, so you might think that 389 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna trick these guys and we're gonna start this 390 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: guy or play this guy. But really, on the tape, 391 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: player B is a lot better, and he's making more 392 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: plays and complete more passes and throwing less interceptions. Players 393 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: are watching the same tape. So Mike Tomlins got not 394 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: gonna fall into that trap. He's gonna play the best guy. Yeah, 395 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: all right, let's go. When I bring you on, I 396 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: like to talk Bears, Steelers, Dolphins, Owas. So my prediction 397 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: ONTOA is this. I really like their skill people water, 398 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson. I think it's a terrific three Mike Gasecki, 399 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill very capable backs again nice. I think they're 400 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: okay in the offensive line, not great, but they bring 401 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: in Kyle Shanahan's offense. It's always been a good offense 402 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: for a quarterback. It's not quarterback reliant, it's quarterback friendly. Tua. 403 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: I think his strength accurate thrower. It's like Jimmy g 404 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: there's a ceiling, but Jimmy gets the ball out and 405 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: he gets it. The guys run after catch. Well, shit, 406 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: that is Tyreek Hill. I think he led the NFL. 407 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe I'm wrong on this. I read it 408 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: like bubbles. Seventy five percent of his catches were not deep. 409 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: They're bubble screens there. Get the ball out to him quick. 410 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: Tua can absolutely activate that. I think the issue is 411 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: going to be I think two is going to be 412 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: pretty good. I went and looked at his numbers from 413 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: last year and I said, if they improve fifteen percent, 414 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: the dilemma is going to be, oh crap, do we 415 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: have to pay him? Knowing he's in the same division 416 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: with Josh Allen because I think he's number I think 417 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: he's going to complete about sixty six percent. He's gonna 418 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: have a ninety four passer rating a three to one 419 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: touchdown interception ratio. He's not Mahomes, he's not Herbert, he's 420 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: not Burrow's. So I think what you're going to get 421 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: is a very this quarterback system, Dave, it works, Christ 422 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: Garoppolo's making twenty seven large. It works. You can win 423 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: a lot of game. Thing no question. Two thoughts come 424 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: to mind with your comment your questionnaire number one. The 425 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: first time if you talk to anybody in the NFL 426 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: and you say Shanahan, what's the third first thought to 427 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: come to mind? One of the best game plan, run schemer. 428 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: There isn't a league, and so that's what you got 429 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: to expect with the Dolphins. So there they're run game. 430 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: They were twenty eight. I may be wrong on this, 431 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty eighth or twenty ninth in the league 432 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: rushing to football last year they were. They weren't very 433 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: good at all. They didn't really give two of the 434 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: chance that they had. And you're right, Tyreek Hill. I'm 435 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: part of a group of ten fifteen coaches called the 436 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: thirty thirteen, Okay, and we have zooms and meetings and 437 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: we just talk ball and we do some things they're 438 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: gonna have something new going on with with our group 439 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: this fall. But we were we were talking and watching 440 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: tape on Tyreek Hill, and you're exactly right. He led 441 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: the NFL in yards after catch and so the point 442 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: is that that fits right in get her falling quick 443 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: and let him run. Yeah, I mean it sounds it 444 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: sounds too simple for some of these geniuses. But I'll 445 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: tell you what if you come out of the Shanahan 446 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: system and I was coaching the Dolphins and I was 447 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: coaching the Bears when his dad, you know, was coaching 448 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator the forty nine ers, and then he 449 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: was to coach at Denver, and so I know the system, 450 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: and he's doing exactly what his dad did from the 451 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: standpoint of philosophy wise, and it's it's work. I think 452 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: he's going to be a little bit like a left 453 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: handed Jimmy g He'll get banged up, you can see 454 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: the ceiling, but he'll get rid of the ball quick, 455 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: he'll deliver it accurately, and in the end, the coaches 456 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: will win a lot of games. You're gonna win ten. 457 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be a ten win tea. I 458 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: think Miami is a playoff team. Do you you know 459 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't lose sight of this. When he 460 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: was struggling early every week, we were all talking about 461 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: it on all the shows. Deshaun Watson going to the Dolphins, 462 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson being traded to the Dolphins, and two is 463 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: playing horrible. All of a sudden, halfway through, the general 464 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: manager down there says, that's enough enough talk about this. Uh, 465 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: you know this is our guy. We're out of the 466 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: Watson stakes. We're not interested anymore. And it's too U 467 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: and his numbers, his performance, it was like night and day. Yes, 468 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: So I think that now you get an offensive coach. Okay, 469 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: it's the first time that he's ever had a head coach. 470 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: That's the offensive coach, Nick Saban right Alabama. I think 471 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: it's high school coach with a defensive coach. I could be. 472 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: I think he was Colin you got me again? You 473 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: know what? Can I say? No, I think you was. 474 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: I think it's high school for Saban Flores. I think 475 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: they all were defensive coaches. So now you got the 476 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: head coach putting his armor on him and the meetings 477 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: giving him some loving U boy, the guy. I think 478 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: that could celeberate his performance twofold. Really, I really do, 479 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: just because of the environment and the atmosphere that he's 480 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: going to be in now as compared to the past. 481 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: And you know the one thing I like about too, 482 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: when he's getting all this crap, Dave, he's really good 483 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 1: at the microphone. He handles it, he laughs at it, 484 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: he rolls his eyes at it. Baker could get real snarky, 485 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: real defensive, and to his list, it's all good. You 486 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: know that. The last thing you want is you have 487 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: to answer a question because your quarterback the day before 488 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: we gotten an argument with the media. Yes, oh absolutely, no, 489 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: no question. And I think you know too, it's the 490 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: type of quarterback did you hire him in any profession. 491 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: He's gonna make your team or your business better. He's 492 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: just got he's got that type of charisma and I 493 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: think he's got that type of mentality. So here's I'll 494 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: throw this at you, Dave. You know this really well 495 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 1: because you're one of the few guys who wanted the 496 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: pros and college. There's there's not many guys who did it, Jimmy, 497 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, there's not You're in a short list. There 498 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: are certain guys and they don't always have to be 499 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: great players, but they're guys guys, and the players love them. 500 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: They're great locker room guys. This is what I've said 501 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: about Jimmy G. He's a great looking guy. He's a 502 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: nice guy, impossible to hate. And I think Brady sends 503 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: that in New England, say get this guy out of here, Like, 504 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: guys love Jimmy G. And so I mean this whole 505 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: Trey Lance circus, he's been great. He's been a total, 506 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean, a coach's dream. So my takeaway is you 507 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: can't keep Jimmy G in that locker room and then 508 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: demand that Trey Lance owned the locker room. Jimmy's just 509 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: one of those guys you want to go hang out 510 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: with him and have a beer and watch the You know, 511 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: if there was a guy in the locker room you 512 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: want to go out and have a steak dinner with, 513 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: it's Jimmy G. And that's a Tray's a great kid. 514 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: And my takeaway is you got to get him out 515 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: of the locker room if you want Trey to have 516 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: a shot at owning that day locker room. You can't 517 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: have Jimmy G in the quarterback room. When my tenure 518 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: ended at the Dolphins. It was the year that Ricky 519 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: Williams took a sabbatical or whatever we wanna call it. 520 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: And we were hitting a couple of hurricanes and we 521 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: started the season off bad. Okay, they were using our 522 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: facility as a hurricane shelter. Okay, put that aside. So 523 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: we start off bad. And I remember that Wayne Hazinger, 524 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: God bless his soul. He was the owner of the Dolphins. 525 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: He came in and said, I want to play some 526 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: of these younger players. And you know, we had won 527 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: ten games a year before and we were off to 528 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: a one in five start or whatever it was. And 529 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: I said, Wayne Jay Fiedler, if we start another quarterback 530 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: other than Jay Fiedler, we will lose this locker room. 531 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas, Patrick Zatan, these guys believe in 532 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: Jay Fiedler. So I can relate to your story. And 533 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: as long was Jay was on that team and I 534 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: was the head coach, Jay, Jay had to be the guy. 535 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: And maybe he wasn't as talented as the backup guy, 536 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: but from a mentality standpoint and a belief standpoint, and 537 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: there's nobody that has more more influence on a team 538 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: than a quarterback. When he comes into the huddle and 539 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: he in a critical situation and he's looking at everybody 540 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: in yond he's the only guy talking. And when he's 541 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: when he makes a statement and calls a play and 542 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: says something at the end about it. We got this, 543 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: we can do this. That makes the difference in the world. 544 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: That's Tom Brady. That's Tom Brady at halftime, halftime, what 545 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: are their twenty eight point comeback against the Atlanta Falcons. 546 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: When you and I were working the show in Houston 547 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, tom Brady was the guy that got 548 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: the offense. I talked to Dean Lewis, their running back coach, 549 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: and that's what and Tom was the guy that got 550 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: that offense together and said, believe in me, You're going 551 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: to do this thing. Quarterbacks the guy. Yeah, no, there 552 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: really is. I mean you know this when you when 553 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: you recruited quarterbacks. Like my thing with Justin Fields is 554 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: I know he's big enough, fast enough, talented enough, and 555 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: has the arm. My question is is he the guy? 556 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: Is he a guy that guy's rally around? Do you 557 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: think he is? Well? I do, I hope so you know, 558 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I know I'm signing like I'm on the 559 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: fence a little bit, probably because I am a little bit. 560 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: I want to see him this year. I think that 561 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: this year's offense is going to give him the best chance. 562 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: And I've always evaluated NFL quarterbacks like this, What number one? 563 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: When they're done ten points with six minutes ago in 564 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: the game, can they bring their team back and score 565 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: twice and win the game? That usually separates quarterback When 566 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: you look at the Brading's demandings, the Marinos, all those guys, 567 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the great ones can do that. The ones 568 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: that can't bring your team back but are really good players, Unfortunately, 569 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: they don't fall into that category in my mind. That's 570 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:02,239 Speaker 1: my personal opinion. Yeah, it's did you think sometimes? I 571 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: do think media market matters. LA is not as vicious 572 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: as Philadelphia, Chica. The Midwest is a friendlier place than 573 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: New York Philadelphia. It's less snarky than maybe San Francisco 574 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: or Los Angeles. If fields struggles this year are the 575 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: mc caskey's reactionary, if the media starts clavering him, what 576 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: is your sense when you were with the Bears, is 577 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: the media tough? Are the fans brutal or not as 578 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: brutal as Philly. What's the meat? And by the way, 579 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: do the mc caskeys listen to that? Yeah, yes, I 580 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: think they do. They listen to the one thing owners 581 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: can do and I used to count my assistant coaches, 582 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: make sure we got eleven guys on the field, okay, 583 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: not twelve okay, because the owners might not know anything 584 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: about football, but they can count, and they can count. 585 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: When there's twelve guys on the field, they throw the flag. 586 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: The owner sitting in the box saying why did that happen? 587 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: You know, And the same thing they can count seats. 588 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: That's my point. And you know, in Chicago, if you 589 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: don't win, they're not going to come to the games. 590 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: The Bears are trying to get this new stadium, So 591 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, do they listen to it? Sure they do. 592 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: They'll probably all say they don't, but they do. They 593 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: do because in the end, it comes down to attendance, 594 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: and it comes down to marketing and it comes down 595 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: to money. Yeah. Well, Wayne, Heyzinga, you you respected him. 596 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: But he could be reactionary, couldn't he He never was 597 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: until the last year, and then he kind of got 598 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: that way because we didn't go to the Super Bowl. 599 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: Even though we're winning ten eleven games a year, you 600 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: know a little bit. But but Wayne was good. Way. 601 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: Wayne was probably as good as is any owner that 602 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: I've been around, even though not working for but associated with. 603 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: He was good. He was good. Jimmy always told me 604 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: Jerry was good for the first few years when he 605 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: was building up the business. It was after Jimmy started winning, 606 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: Jerry wanted to show up. Well. I can tell you 607 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: the story we used to Jimmy kind of believed that 608 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: we would take he allways calls at the Inner Circle. 609 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: We still get together once a year. We just had 610 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: a little reunion down his place about two months ago. 611 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: It was North Turner, our offensive corner. I was obviously 612 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: the defensive corner. Tony Wise our line coach, our attorney, 613 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: and then Troy comes in and the inner Circle he 614 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: called it, which Davis came. So we would sit and 615 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: so we would go for a jog every lunchtime, and 616 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: we didn't talk about anything except the upcoming game and 617 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: where we're at. And I remember we were getting ready 618 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: to head out for a jog. And it was that year, 619 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: like third year, when we were winning playoffs and Jimmy 620 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: just got finished with his press conference, and they were 621 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: setting up all these tables, and they were bringing in 622 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: these big stakes and you know, setting up the catering. 623 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: And we were walking on and Jimmy turned to somebody, 624 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: said what's going on and they said, oh, Jerry's having 625 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: a press conference this afternoon, and he's feeding the media 626 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: steakes and he's gonna feed him and have his own 627 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,959 Speaker 1: press conference. Oh Jesus, And I looked at I looked 628 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: at Jimmy, and he looked at me, and I knew 629 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: he never said a word, but I knew that was 630 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: kind of the beginning of the end, Jerry, Jerry plying 631 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: the media with well, and I think it happened call 632 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: and I think it was two weeks later. Troy through 633 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: an interception and when Jimmy comes out in the press 634 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: conference at eleven o'clock, it says, Hey, I don't care 635 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: who you are, Troy Aikman, Emmett Smith, Michael Wervin. You 636 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: turned the ball over. We're gonna have issues. And one 637 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: o'clock Jerry and his press conference, and they said, what 638 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: do you think about the turnovers? And it might have 639 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: not been Troy, might have Emmett whatever, and he says, oh, no, 640 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: there's no problem. We're fine. So you can imagine the 641 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: headlines of the Dallas Morning News the next day. No chance, 642 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: that was, no chance, that was not gonna fly. I 643 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 1: think that's so funny. All right, So you and Jan 644 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: when do you go back to Chicago? We are here 645 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: now full time. I got in last week. Yep, I 646 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: am here now full time. I did a little show 647 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: tonight for the Bears at NBC, and I started my 648 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: big ten and radio shows here in a couple of weeks. 649 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 1: Bears go to training camp in nine days, so I'll 650 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 1: be up there. I'll be all in. Yes, So we're here. 651 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: We are absolutely here. I was at last night. You 652 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: may be too young to not even recognize that. So 653 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: I'm at a function last night. It's Smith and Lewinski's 654 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: banks here in Chicago, and I'm at a private party 655 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: in the back and someone comes up to me and says, 656 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: coach mister t is in the room next door. I 657 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: walk over and he comes up and we hugged. His 658 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: daughter went to high school with my daughter, and we 659 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: used to see each other at all the volleyball events 660 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: and all that. So I'll tell you it's great to 661 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: be back in Chicago. I mean, I'm not running mister 662 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: t in Naples. Okay, let me tell you something for people. 663 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 1: I was introduced to Chicago very late in my life. 664 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: I've done all the West Coast stuff. I've done a 665 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: lot of Dallas, I've done a lot of Northeast stuff 666 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: throughout my career. I got introduced through my wife to Chicago. 667 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: It is my favorite city in America. The people, the architecture. 668 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: We have a cute, little tiny place near a park. 669 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: I just love it. I love everything about it. Yeah. No, 670 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: it's good. And I'll tell you what. There's a lot 671 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: of excitement right it's a sports time. Oh my god, 672 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: It's just it's just I mean this town. And you know. 673 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: The big talk now is the Bears are. I'll throw 674 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: this out since we're talking Chicago. I mean the Bears are. 675 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna move. I think they're gonna leave 676 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: Soldier Field and move out to Arlington to the racetrack, 677 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: and they're gonna build a new stadium and suppose to 678 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: be there's gonna be a hotel involved, and there's gonna 679 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: be a gambling casino. I mean, it's gonna be a 680 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: big move for the Bears. And I think it's happening. 681 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: I really do, so stay tuned, stay close to that one. Yeah, 682 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: I heard there's a casino going downtown Chicago where the 683 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 1: Tribune building is. Yes, you're correct, you're correct, absolutely, yeah, 684 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: So it's good right now. The Cubs, the Cubs one 685 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: today I was watching. I gotta get caught up. I 686 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: just got up there calling, so I gotta start watching 687 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: Tony the Russo and the Socks, and I gotta start 688 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: watching the Cubs and get caught up here. So I'm 689 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: not so I'm not blindsided of some of these media guys. 690 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: You know they're into it. This is a sports down 691 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: well an can't wait to see your lovely wife again. 692 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on all good stuff. I finished 693 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: off my vodka Red Bull. Did you finish off Bradshaw's bourbon? No? 694 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: I got about four more bottles over there, but not tonight. 695 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: But no, I'm good for tonight. I'm done. I'm done. 696 00:38:50,200 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm done, all right, coach, all right, see kid the volume. 697 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: Make sure to check out the Draymond Green Show. I 698 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: brought Draymond Green into the volume because one of the 699 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: more entertaining voices in sports unique perspective Understands Behind the 700 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: Rope also chops up with guests like Gary Peyton, Zach Levine, 701 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: Tracy McGrady. Make sure download The Draymond Green Show wherever 702 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts, only on the Volume podcast Network.