WEBVTT - 9 Thrilling Mysteries... Solved!

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what, mango? What's that? Well? All right, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know that game Clue, and I think you know this fact,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know it came from the game Cludo in England, right, Yeah? Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I think my cousins in India told me it's a

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<v Speaker 1>pun on the word ludo, which was an old Roman

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<v Speaker 1>game or something. Yeah, that's right. So they changed the

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<v Speaker 1>name in the US because nobody here plays ludo. But

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't the only thing they changed. It was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of interesting to look at the list. So did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that in the British version, the murder weapons include

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<v Speaker 1>a fireplace poker, a syringe, an axe, and even a bomb,

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<v Speaker 1>which is insane. I mean doesn't feel like things you

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<v Speaker 1>have around the house. I mean, except for the fireplace poker,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a lot of syringes or bombs around

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<v Speaker 1>the house. But also the characters are different. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Black, a Mr Gold, and a Colonel Yellow instead

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<v Speaker 1>of Mustard for some reason that makes no sense. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Colonel Mustard is definitely a better name, but why change

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<v Speaker 1>it from yellow? Like Americans know what yellow? I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Americans know what yellow is. But that's just another

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<v Speaker 1>mystery for players to solve, which is perfect for today

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<v Speaker 1>a show because it's all about mysteries. So let's dive in. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>their podcast listeners, Welcome to Part Time Genius. I'm Will

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<v Speaker 1>Pearson and as always I'm joined by my good friend

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<v Speaker 1>Man Guesh Ticketer and sitting behind the soundproof glass dusting

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<v Speaker 1>office collection of Hardy Boys Mysteries. That's our good pal

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<v Speaker 1>and producer Tristan McNeil. So. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>feel this way, but every time I hear the word

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<v Speaker 1>hardy boys, now I think of that Dirty Rock episode

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<v Speaker 1>where Jack Donneghe orders like a wine sprinter from the bartender.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm talking about, Yes, I do. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it so much because like he gets the drink

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<v Speaker 1>and the fartenders like here's your Nancy Drew and Jack

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<v Speaker 1>donneghe goes for men. It's a hearty boy. So were

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<v Speaker 1>you in the mysteries the same way? I was this

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<v Speaker 1>a kid? I mean, I like them, but hearing you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how much you were into them, I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't Sherlock Holmes for three straight halloweens like you were.

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<v Speaker 1>So so why were you so obsessed with I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think I liked the idea of being

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<v Speaker 1>my neighborhood Encyclopedia Brown And actually my mom got me

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<v Speaker 1>these abridged classics as a kid. I don't know, did

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<v Speaker 1>you ever have those? Yeah? Definitely. Yeah, Like I remember

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<v Speaker 1>reading like Charles Dickens and Jules Verne and whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>I really got hooked on the Sherlock Holmes one and

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<v Speaker 1>so much so that I actually started reading all the

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<v Speaker 1>Sherlock Holmes books in third grade. I mean I read

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<v Speaker 1>Shlock Holmes, I read uh acta Christie and all the

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Marbles and all that stuff. But I was just

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<v Speaker 1>totally obsessed. So how long did this obsession last? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you're not that into mystery stuff now,

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<v Speaker 1>are you? No? Not not just hiding. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>do remember trying to solve little mysteries around my neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there was this kid who was just a

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<v Speaker 1>total liar, and uh when he first came into the neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd all pull up in front of his house like

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<v Speaker 1>on our bikes to greet him, and he immediately set

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<v Speaker 1>off telling everyone he was like the second grade kids

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<v Speaker 1>world boxing champion, which I don't think it's a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know. I mean, he was tough looking but

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<v Speaker 1>clearly lying, and I just looked at him. It was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have any tan lines. If you're you're the

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<v Speaker 1>world boxing champion, you'd have tan from like being around

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<v Speaker 1>the world. And uh, I'm pretty sure I read something

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<v Speaker 1>like that in Encyclopedia Brown. But you know, all the

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<v Speaker 1>kids around me were like, yeah, he's a liar, right right,

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<v Speaker 1>So he was claiming to be the second grade world

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<v Speaker 1>boxing champion. I love that. I also love that you

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to take him down so much, but like

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<v Speaker 1>count box him. Good for you for cracking that case. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, today we're talking about mystery, so I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 1>you've got some other good stuff up your sleeve. So

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<v Speaker 1>do you do you have a first fact for us? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I actually like the fact that you started

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<v Speaker 1>with Clue, because I've got a Clue fact of my own.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is actually about Clue the movie, and you

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<v Speaker 1>saw their doing a remake, right, Yeah, I'm super scited

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I mean, if you look at the line up,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many movies that are up my alley right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's a Clue movie coming out, there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a Muppets mystery for adults that's coming out, and then

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<v Speaker 1>to Mr Rogers Movies. I know, actually I saw they

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<v Speaker 1>got Tom Hanks to play him, and it was based

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<v Speaker 1>on that Tom's you know Esquire article. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of fun having Tom on the show not too

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<v Speaker 1>long ago. But anyway, you were saying, yeah, so clue

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<v Speaker 1>the movie. Uh. The funny thing about that movie was

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<v Speaker 1>that it bombed in theaters. And you know how when

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<v Speaker 1>we watched as kids, it had all three endings together

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the film. Well, when you actually

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<v Speaker 1>saw in theaters, you only got to see one of

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<v Speaker 1>the endings. So why did they do it that way?

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<v Speaker 1>It was a gimmick to get people to get to

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<v Speaker 1>see the movie more times, Like if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>see all three endings, you actually have to pay for

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<v Speaker 1>three different tickets. Wow, which I'm guessing was very confusing

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<v Speaker 1>to the audience. And I also can't imagine the movie

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<v Speaker 1>would be as good without those three endings together. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So critics mostly panned whatever version they saw, like the

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<v Speaker 1>fun really isn't seeing all the endings together, And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess newspapers eventually tried to give a lift by you know,

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<v Speaker 1>revealing what ending you were going to see. They said, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in the listings that will be ending A B or C.

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<v Speaker 1>But but no one really caught on and it actually

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<v Speaker 1>only became a hit once it came out on video.

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<v Speaker 1>Al Right, well here's another fact for you. So did

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<v Speaker 1>you know that Sherlott Colmes was almost named Sharing Ford. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually sounds like you're just making up a name

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<v Speaker 1>on the spot and you couldn't quite come up with

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<v Speaker 1>something with. According to Conan Doyle's original note, he was

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<v Speaker 1>leaning towards either sharing Ford Holmes or Sharon Ford Homes,

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<v Speaker 1>either a real name. But this was all until he

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<v Speaker 1>played a game of cricket. I mean I did know

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<v Speaker 1>that Conon Doyle was a super into cricket. Actually I

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<v Speaker 1>read this book. Um, he played on Jam Barry's team

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote Peter Penn and uh and the team was

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<v Speaker 1>filled with all these British literary all stars like people

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<v Speaker 1>I love like H. G. Wells, a million, Richard Kipling, P. G.

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<v Speaker 1>Woodhouse was on one team. Yeah, and they were supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be super fun to hang out with but also

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<v Speaker 1>aggressively mediocre as player. Well, I guess he got inspired

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<v Speaker 1>on the pitch because as he puts it, quote, years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I made thirty runs against the bowler by the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Sherlock, and I always had a kindly feeling for

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<v Speaker 1>that name. Well, I mean, Sherlock Holmes is so much

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<v Speaker 1>of a better name than Sharing for It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>how like Google would be so much less popular if

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<v Speaker 1>it went by the name of BackRub Original. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember that, alright, So so what else you got? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So here's a fun one about murder, she wrote. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the BBC four, when reporters crunched the numbers, they

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<v Speaker 1>found that Cabot Cove, which I'm not sure if you remember,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's the queen idyllic town where Angela lands for

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<v Speaker 1>his characters from uh, it would actually be the murder

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<v Speaker 1>capital of the world. Really. Apparently two percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>town's residents died over the course of the show's twelve

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<v Speaker 1>which already feels a little high, but the murder rate

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<v Speaker 1>for visitors was even higher. And if you tab it

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<v Speaker 1>all up, it would be the murder capital of the

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<v Speaker 1>world right now, and it puts the current murder capital

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<v Speaker 1>to shame. I love that they actually took the time

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<v Speaker 1>to to calculate the all right, well, here's a mystery

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little less murdery than that one. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>secret to dumb, dumb lollipops mystery flavor. So I always

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<v Speaker 1>love the mystery flavor, and I'd assume they just picked

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<v Speaker 1>one flavor a month and wrap them up in a

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<v Speaker 1>mystery wrapper, which actually has a much more interesting story.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, the mystery flavor is really just a smart

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<v Speaker 1>way for the manufacturer to not have to throw out

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<v Speaker 1>any candy or even spend too much time cleaning the machine.

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<v Speaker 1>So according to our pal caracovalchick over at Mental Floss,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the flavor that mingles together when one flavor rolls

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<v Speaker 1>off the assembly line and another one comes on. That's

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. So the mystery flavor is always changing. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess yeah, that's right now. If your taste buds are

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<v Speaker 1>really sophisticated, you might be able to solve the mystery

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<v Speaker 1>and figure out what two flavors are in the next

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<v Speaker 1>there lollipop con Well, we've got four more facts to

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<v Speaker 1>go and a trophy to wrestle over, But why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we pause for a little break. Welcome back to Part

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<v Speaker 1>Time Genius nine Things, where today we're talking about mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>that man go. We'll get back to the facts in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. But what do you think about all this

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<v Speaker 1>recent analysis of Sherlock Holmes. I mean, some versions think

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<v Speaker 1>that he might be gay. There are people who think

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<v Speaker 1>he displays classic signs of Asperger's or maybe that he's

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<v Speaker 1>even a sociopath. I know, I'm actually in two minds

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<v Speaker 1>about this. Like I have such a fondness for homes

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<v Speaker 1>from when I was a kid that I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to be like the character I imagined. But

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of love those lists that analyze fictional characters now,

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<v Speaker 1>like I saw Aerial from The Little Mermaid has been

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<v Speaker 1>labeled a hoarder because you can't get rid of forks

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<v Speaker 1>and things, or that you know your is a depressive,

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<v Speaker 1>which I never thought about as a kid because I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought he was like bumbling and slow. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a serious type. I want you to think

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<v Speaker 1>about that great Jeff Reuben interview with Dr Batman now, listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>if we haven't talked about it before. Our pal Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>has a great show called The Jeff Reuben Jeff Reuben Show,

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<v Speaker 1>and he interviews really interesting people. But one of the

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<v Speaker 1>people he talked to was this guy who has a

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<v Speaker 1>doctorate degree in Batman. How weird is that? Well, part

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<v Speaker 1>of the interview was about how Batman is actually a

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<v Speaker 1>number of characters. Now. He's campy to some people, like

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<v Speaker 1>fans of the old TV show, He's more of a

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<v Speaker 1>detective to some, and more dark and brooding and some

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Yeah, I mean, he's allowed to be all

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<v Speaker 1>these things in parallel universes. And I guess that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the same with Holmes and all these different interpretations

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<v Speaker 1>of him. Yeah, that's a good point. So I watched

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<v Speaker 1>the new Ericio Poirot movie and in the first scene

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really not giving away, but he sets this physical

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<v Speaker 1>trap for someone, and I was like, why does every

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<v Speaker 1>detective now have to be an action hero? Like why

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<v Speaker 1>can't he just settle for being really, really smart? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, speaking of really smart, what's what's your

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<v Speaker 1>next fact? Mag So here's one that kind of builds

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<v Speaker 1>off your dumb dumb story. Did you know that the

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<v Speaker 1>recipe for chartruss is a highly kept secret. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like Coca Cola or KFC And the story is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. So apparently it's a blend of a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thirty herbs, plants and flowers that go into it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the recipe was given to monks in sixteen oh

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<v Speaker 1>five by an officer in Henry the Fourth's court, and

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason it's been treated as a secret ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>Only a few months at anytime. I actually know the recipe,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, a monk's not going to tell the secret.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the cool thing about it. The color Charterers

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<v Speaker 1>actually gets its name from the color of the liqueur,

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<v Speaker 1>which itself gets its name from the Grand Chartreuse Monastery,

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<v Speaker 1>which is where the alcohol is brewed. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>long chain of it gets its name from. That's very good.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Well, since you mentioned KFC, I do have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you one fact about that, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bump off one of my other mystery facts I had

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll save it for the future. But in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand sixteen, Colonel Sanders Nephew claimed to have found a

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<v Speaker 1>copy of the famous chicken recipe in an old scrap book,

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<v Speaker 1>and he even allowed the Chicago Tribune to give it

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<v Speaker 1>a try. I mean, how much of a jerk is

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<v Speaker 1>this guy? We're doing as a family secret man. But

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<v Speaker 1>here are the ingredients, so salt, thyme, basil, oregano, sell

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<v Speaker 1>re salt, black pepper, dried mustard, paprika, garlic, salt, ground ginger,

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<v Speaker 1>and white pepper. I mean for being such a secret,

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<v Speaker 1>like none of it's that surprising. It's not like they

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<v Speaker 1>had like oric acid, and and that's what gave it

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<v Speaker 1>the tang that the reveal was a little anticlimactic. But

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<v Speaker 1>when they tried it out, apparently it was indistinguishable from

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<v Speaker 1>KFC seasoning. Alright, well, let's get back to some real mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's your last fact of the day. Mego, So,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an amazing story I read about on Reddit

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<v Speaker 1>and then followed a link to a newspaper. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>from two thousand and eight, and this crime is genius.

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<v Speaker 1>So a guy wearing a yellow safety vest, safety goggles,

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<v Speaker 1>a blue shirt, and a respirator mask and a respirator

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<v Speaker 1>mask walked up to a guard at a bank in Monroe, Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently Munroe is about thirty miles north of Seattle and

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<v Speaker 1>it's on a river, And as money is being taken

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<v Speaker 1>off the truck, he sprays the guard with mace, then

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<v Speaker 1>grabs a bundle of cash and braces off But here's

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<v Speaker 1>what's interesting about it. When the cops come, there are

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of people wearing the same uniform that this guy

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<v Speaker 1>was wearing all around. He'd actually posted a job ad

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<v Speaker 1>on Craigslist for construction workers, and he told them to

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<v Speaker 1>show up at a particular time and wear the same outfit,

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<v Speaker 1>and he promised wages of twenty nine dollars an hour

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<v Speaker 1>to them. Enough that there was like this huge crowd

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<v Speaker 1>of them, and so he disappears into this crowd. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is the funniest part. Instead of using a getaway car,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd gotten an inner tube and tubed down the river

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<v Speaker 1>and that was near to the bank and made this

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<v Speaker 1>clean escape, but not a quick escape. But did they

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<v Speaker 1>find him? I know, it feels so relaxed. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they didn't, because the last article I found

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<v Speaker 1>was a journalist trying to track down Craig from Craigslist

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<v Speaker 1>to see if he had any clues. Wow, that's pretty good. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well I've got a pretty good mystery to close this.

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<v Speaker 1>So have you heard about the President's mystery? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I have what is it? And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how I hadn't either, But it was fun looking this

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<v Speaker 1>up for this episode. So Franklin Roosevelt was apparently obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with mysteries, and he didn't think there were that many

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<v Speaker 1>good ones out there, so he started to write his own. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>he came up with an idea. So there's this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Blake, who doesn't really love his life. He's in

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<v Speaker 1>a bad marriage, dead end job. So he decided to

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<v Speaker 1>try to scam five million dollars and then disappear without

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<v Speaker 1>being traced. But the thing is, Roosevelt couldn't quite figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how Blake would get away with it. So he'd

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<v Speaker 1>come up with an idea, then figure out a solution

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<v Speaker 1>for finding him, and so he decided to take his

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<v Speaker 1>problem to an author that he liked, Bolton or Sler,

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<v Speaker 1>And then this is where we get political. They decided

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<v Speaker 1>to solve it by committee. So they recruited five or

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<v Speaker 1>six other top mystery writers at the time, and each

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<v Speaker 1>of them took a chapter within the story. They'd have

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<v Speaker 1>Blake run, then leave him in this bad situation for

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<v Speaker 1>the next person to figure out. And it was really good.

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<v Speaker 1>So the story gets serialized in a magazine and it's

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<v Speaker 1>called The President's Mystery. Then it was published into a

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<v Speaker 1>book and even turned into a movie in nine teen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six, which gave Roosevelt a movie writing credit as

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<v Speaker 1>a sitting president. But the coolest thing about it, no

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<v Speaker 1>one actually solved FDR's original problem, at least not until

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty seven, when Earl Stanley Gardner wrote a final

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<v Speaker 1>final chapter and had his hero Perry Mason closed the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually had a fact about Roosevelt's son, Elliott, who was

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<v Speaker 1>a mystery writer and uh based his lead detective on

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<v Speaker 1>his mom Eleanor Roosevelt. But even though I'm a homes fan,

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<v Speaker 1>and even though I had an Eleanor Roosevelt fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm gonna let you walk away with this week's

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<v Speaker 1>fact Off Trophy. Thank you. I'm honored. Actually, before we go,

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<v Speaker 1>we just wanted to say we got a note on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter from one of our listeners, Nicole, and she had

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<v Speaker 1>a difficult thing happened to her recently and asked for

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<v Speaker 1>a light episode this week. So Nicole, we hope this

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<v Speaker 1>did the trick. Thank you guys for listening. Se