1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to Steff. 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: I never told you production of iHeartRadio and today I 3 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: wanted to bring back on that is a little dated 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: but also kind of unfortunately relevant. It's one we did 5 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: when it was like the pandemic was lifting and we 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: were going out and it was about confidence after the pandemic, 7 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: and in the wake of my surprise party Gonna Rye 8 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: and now Dragon Con, I feel that this is something 9 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm wrestling with. I feel like what's holding me back 10 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: now is my lack of confidence with myself and with 11 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: my body. Whereas I used to when I would go 12 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: to Dragon Con, put on a costume and I would 13 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: feel more confident than I'd ever felt like it was 14 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: like I was stepping into someone else and so I 15 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about all of my problems, which 16 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: is not necessarily healthy, but that was how it felt 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: because people used to kind of be confused. They would say, like, 18 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: how can you wear this costume and you're so shy 19 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: when you're whatever, whatever, whatever, And I would say, well, 20 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: I actually felt more confident when I'm pretending to be 21 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: something else. But as you know, I've also been asked 22 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: to be on a Star Wars panel, and I'm highly concerned. 23 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: It'd be great. I was so goodor we talked about 24 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: this too where. 25 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Because fandom, and in a lot of ways, especially Star 26 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Wars fandom, is very gatekeepy and very like no, I'm right, but. 27 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: Also what is canon anymore? I don't know. I'm just worried. 28 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: I hate that I have to be like, but I'm 29 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: not a big enough fan. When I am a big enough. 30 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: You are. 31 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: I really, I really really am, And it's for like obscure. 32 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: Star Wars facts and it's family feud style. My biggest 33 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 1: hope is that there's nothing negative in it. I don't 34 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: want to be like, what's the most hated character? I 35 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: don't want that I want. I just don't like that 36 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: part of it. It's not my thing. Even though I 37 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: have my opinions about it, I just don't. 38 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: It's not my thing. I don't want to do that 39 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: as someone else. 40 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just It's something I'm still grappling with, 41 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: even years later, about going in public and feeling that 42 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: kind of performance of being in public a way that 43 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: I like, I've always felt it, but I think I've 44 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: just been used to it before the pandemic and now 45 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: I'm not used to it anymore. 46 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 3: This is your second Dragon Con panel. I know you 47 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: want me, but they's your life. 48 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: I'm late. I love it. 49 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: I'm excited to see it because I don't like it. 50 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 3: Like when you're talking about not being prepared, I would never, 51 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: but I'm excited to watch you. 52 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: I well, you'll have to cheer me on when I 53 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: will fail everything that. 54 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: Oh I'm so nervous. 55 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: She's full of lies, yeall, she doesn't felt things. 56 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm like the weakest link though, I will say that 57 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: in this team, I am definitely uh doubtful. But I'm 58 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: gonna try to have fun. I my friends are there, 59 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: and that's you know what. I have supportive friends and. 60 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: That's what matters. 61 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: We're gonna yell for you. 62 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, even if I get it wrong. If they're like, 63 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: oh no, what's your favorite droids? That isn't these droids? 64 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: And I'm like that one, but I feel like they won't. 65 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: It has to be obscure. I've been studying. I'm embarrassed 66 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: to say. 67 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm so embarrassed. Are you gonna have it on your hands? Oh? No, 68 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: I know my cheating days are behind me. 69 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: Do you want me to hold up scoreboards. 70 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: I put that answer. I got you, I got you, 71 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: I got it. I wark this out. 72 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: On the floor. 73 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: Okay, three taps. What does it mean? 74 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: You can tell everyone? 75 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: Okay, got it? Well we're kind of assisted. No, we won't, 76 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: but we'll see how it goes. 77 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: I'll report back. Oh gosh, I'll report back. 78 00:04:52,279 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, please enjoy this classic episode. Hey, 79 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephfman Never 80 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: Told You production of iHeart Radio. 81 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: All right, Annie, I have a question for you. Okay, 82 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: what is something that you did before the pandemic that 83 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: we probably will not do now? 84 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: Yes? Now is in right now? Or now is in 85 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: moving forward? Moving forward? Moving forward? 86 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: I probably I know we've talked about this some and 87 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: we're very fortunate and that this is an option. I 88 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: probably won't go into the office as much as I 89 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: did because I used to be a like pretty much 90 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: every day of the week, even if it wasn't necessary, 91 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: I went in to the office, and outside of that, 92 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see if this changes. 93 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: But right now, I don't think I'm going to. 94 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: Have as many back to back plans, as many days 95 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: of the week where It used to be like I'd 96 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: be like, you're going to this museum from this time 97 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: to this time, and then you're gonna go here from 98 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: this time to this time, and every day was like that. 99 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna be the case anymore. 100 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I think for me, some things will be. 101 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: And I didn't do it too much beforehand, but like 102 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 3: food bars and I would go to the Whole Foods 103 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 3: and they have that food bar. I would go to town 104 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: on that sound bar because I love they have chicken 105 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 3: fry tofu, probably one of my favorite things. 106 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: Ever. 107 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: As now, like I don't know if I'll ever do 108 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: this again, because it wasn't great to begin with. I mean, 109 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: the little sneeze guards that seem like a great idea, 110 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: but people purposely go underneath that to get to things, 111 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 3: and I'm like, no, no, no, And the one excepted 112 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: was Whole Foods. And now I'm like, I don't I 113 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 3: don't think I'll be doing that anymore. The automatic hugs, oh, 114 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: that will be less likely, as well as sharing drinks 115 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 3: with strangers. And I say this and like, if I 116 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: got to know you, maybe the first one I got 117 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: to know you, but about an hour and a half later, 118 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, you want to try this? 119 00:06:59,680 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: Right? 120 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: I didn't think much of it, but now I'm like, oh. 121 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yeah, no, right. 122 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: And the reason I was thinking about all of these things, 123 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: of course, there are other things that we're going to 124 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: do that I'm we're not doing right now, Like right now, 125 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: I won't dine indoors. Eventually, well, I absolutely, but the 126 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: preference is that I will be eating on the patio 127 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: at all times. And I'm very excited about that because 128 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: you know, in Georgia we only have like a month 129 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: of where that is actually not too hot, not too old, 130 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: not too poliny, right, that we can do that, But 131 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: just the overall idea of going out and being a 132 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: part of society again has me really really anxious. And 133 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: I know we talked about this before, and it made 134 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: me think about how our confidence or lack thereof, how 135 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: it's changed since after the pandemic. And again I don't 136 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: know about anybody else, And yeah, like I said, I've 137 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: talked about this before, but as we're preparing to meet 138 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: up with people and mingle with people, I'm started to 139 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: have a lot of second thoughts on whether or not 140 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: I even want to go out. In the first place, 141 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: and whether I have the emotional motivation or strength to 142 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: actually do it. And of course this has everything to 143 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: do with not just being a part of society again 144 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: and just interacting with people and just socializing, but also 145 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: my confidence in my job and then what we're doing. 146 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: It has really waned. I feel like during the pandemic, 147 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: which is hilarious because we've upped our amount of episodes 148 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: that we do on a constant basis. I'm finally getting 149 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: to the point of this like year three, yo, I 150 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: can't remember right, year three of me finally you know, 151 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: me kind of getting adjusted to this new job. But 152 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 3: I'm still having a lot of anxiety. Of course, it 153 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: didn't help that I clicked onto some reviews the other 154 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: day and it was not pretty. I know, everybody got 155 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: onto me, including Holly stuff you missed in history class, 156 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: and Caroline from Unladylike and Tracy of missing history class. 157 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: They're all like, stop doing that, And I didn't mean to. 158 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: I was actually trying to do it for and I 159 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: just ended up clicking on it, and of course a 160 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: word caught my eye, so I was like, let me, 161 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: let me see what this is. 162 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, son of. 163 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: It was a huge mistake. But I'm not the only one, 164 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 3: so I feel a little bit better about this and 165 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: a little sad about this. And according to one research 166 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: I Think Tank, they found over seventy nine percent of 167 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: women struggling with self esteem or self love issues and 168 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: it ranged from different reasons such as financial reasons. And yeah, 169 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: we talked about this before, especially when it comes to 170 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: Black women and Latino women. They've been hardest when it 171 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: comes to the job prices during the pandemic. And that 172 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: same study found over seventy percent felt financially insecure and 173 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: seventy one percent have had their financial plans being completely 174 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: affected due to the pandemic. 175 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: And it is not all because of finance, but also 176 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: due to not surprisingly the state of the world, things 177 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: like politics, the pandemic, and for some feeling like they 178 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: haven't moved forward in their lives, whether it's personal or professional. 179 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: And according it to one statistic, the lowest ranking and 180 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: self esteem or self love is in South Korea, Saudi Arabia, 181 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: and surprisingly France, while Denmark, Australia, and the United States 182 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: rake the highest, which could be more about who was 183 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: asked more than anything else. Always good to question those 184 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: kinds of studies, and again it's such a shock. It 185 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: has shown that people who are frequent users of social 186 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: media are more likely to have lower self esteem. But 187 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: it's also worth noting that many of the same people 188 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: have said they get more emotional support they need. And 189 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: there have been many different reports talking about the overall 190 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: effect of social media, especially in teenagers when it comes 191 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: to them using these platforms, and. 192 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 3: That's not adding the overall pressures of the dreaded zoom meetings. 193 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: According to a study done by Washington University in Saint Louis, 194 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 3: they didn't find a decrease in self esteem, which I 195 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: thought was surprising because every time I open it up 196 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: dialogue inside they said quote counter to expectations, Daily video 197 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: chatting hours was unassociated with appearance satisfaction, which aligns with 198 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: some work that suggests the specific social media activities, rather 199 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 3: than the total spent using it, predicts body dissatisfaction. And 200 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: the research continues. Furthermore, daily video chatting hours was not 201 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: associated with self objectification or video chatting appearance comparisons, though 202 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: self objectifications moderated the relationship between total video chatting hours 203 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 3: and both satisfaction measures, so Essentially, what they are saying 204 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: is they expected that to be a problem. They're saying 205 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: that they felt that their self esteem was hit all 206 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: these things, but they really didn't care. It didn't really change. 207 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: It just kind of was like, huh, okay, it happens, 208 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: moving on and again. Like I said, hey, I don't 209 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 3: know about you, but I'm definitely not one of those 210 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: who feel fine with all the zoom and Skype and 211 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: any of these things, because when I pop up the video, 212 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 3: it shows me how I look at that day. I'm like, oh, yeah, 213 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: I haven't looked in the mirror today. But the one 214 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 3: thing I do love is that I can actually just 215 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: turn off the camera. So being at a meeting without 216 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: being at a meeting has been really nice. And which, 217 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: by the way, the study does point out that many 218 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 3: of those who participate in these types of surveys did 219 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: highlight that they really like the edit feature or they 220 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: could turn it off, and that's part of the reason. 221 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, I can change it if I want to. 222 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I remember the first time for I don't know, 223 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: the first time I zoom and I was just messing 224 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: around with They'll like edit my appearance feature. 225 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: It's like, whoa, this is why I'm not savvy enough, 226 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: and I'm just like, just turn it off, just turn 227 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: it off. 228 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: Well, I mean it does reach a certain point. I 229 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: mean you gotta have a light touch unless you want 230 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: people to know like, oh yeah, she's got that edit 231 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: my apparents function creak to the top. 232 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: And I'm guessing I didn't look into this that the 233 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: purchasing has increased four things like the ring light, which 234 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: a lot. 235 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 2: Of people have now I have noticed that I have. 236 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: I've noticed that, and I actually have one in here. 237 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: I did not purchase it specifically for Zoom, but I 238 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: did move it from where it was into here because 239 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: I was like, well, if I'm gonna be on camera, all. 240 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 2: I get the ring light out. 241 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: However, it's facing my wall more than my face, So no, 242 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: not great. 243 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 2: But anyway, issues. 244 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: Of body image have been a prevailing theme throughout the 245 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: pandemic as well. 246 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: And honestly, yeah, I've been uh stocking up a lot 247 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: on ponchos and this is part of my now normal 248 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: clothes closet because you know, I'm preparing for the vaxed 249 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: guirl woman summer and yeah, new fashion is cover up 250 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: as much as I can with as much material, but 251 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 3: that doesn't make me too hot. In ponchos, they give 252 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: you the options of not having too long with sleeves. 253 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: I should get out my Luke Skywalker poncho. You haven't 254 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: seen me in it yet, Samantha, heaven't. It was super cute. 255 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: I love how people always see it so ugly. I'm like, oh, 256 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: I think it looks so cute. 257 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually I haven't had the chance to tell 258 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: you this because it kind of just happens, Tomantha. But 259 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: the other night, a friend of mine, a really good 260 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: friend of mine, texted me at like nine pm and said, 261 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: do you want to come hang out at a bar 262 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: that's near me? I'm here and I was like, what 263 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: is this last minute plan? And he was like, I know, 264 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm bringing them back. And I felt too gross and 265 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: ugly to go outside. 266 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: And I couldn't say that because then he'd be like 267 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: come on and being ridiculous. 268 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: But that's what that was my immediate like I can't 269 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: be seen like this. Yeah, And I know a lot 270 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: of friends women, particularly in my group, that have said 271 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: similar things. 272 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. 273 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: One scientific journal found that stress and anxiety has increased 274 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: due to people's ideas around body image. There is this 275 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: defeatist attitude about what they should and should not have 276 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: accomplished while in quarantine. And again we see social media 277 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of fat phobic content that feed into 278 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: this narrative that that's been a big conversation throughout this 279 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: whole thing. 280 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: Right, And according to the National Eating Disorders Association, quote, 281 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: people with negative body image have a greater likelihood of 282 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: developing eating this order. They're also more likely to suffer 283 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: from the feelings of depression, isolation, low self esteem, and 284 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: obsession with weight. And that's again to say that this 285 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: is this horror level of it's not actually what your 286 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: body looks like, but it's how you're thinking on it 287 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: and what is making you think on it, and a yeah, 288 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: and part of that is this whole narrative that we've 289 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: been talking about throughout our episodes. And I know a 290 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: lot of women in general are talking about the fact 291 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: that there's this feeling a failure because we didn't We 292 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: had all this time, and why didn't you do this? 293 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: And you could have done this while you're there, and 294 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: because we didn't or may not have done it, we 295 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: feel like we haven't met those expectations as well as 296 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: that it becomes a moment of obsession to it's like, 297 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: why didn't I do this? And this is my fault 298 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: that I did this and all these things. And I 299 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: think we would definitely want to add negative body image 300 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: can affect anyone, So it doesn't matter what you look 301 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: like at all. Again, just through preface that this is 302 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: not about what you actually look like. It's what you 303 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: actually think in process and what's being fed to you. 304 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: Right, And as we talked about earlier, financial issues have 305 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: made many women insecure due to the pandemic, but so 306 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: as the overall level of job skill, which can lead 307 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: to burnout. According to CNBC and Survey Monkey Women at 308 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: Work survey that was conducted February through March of this year. 309 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one, just in case you're listening to this in. 310 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: The future, at least fifty three percent of women said 311 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: they were suffering from burnout due to their jobs, and 312 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: many experts report it's the usual level of bias and 313 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: lack of fairness that many women have been dealing with 314 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: for years, added to the pandemic that is causing this 315 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: increase of burnout. 316 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: And yeah, this isn't even talking about the unequal responsibility 317 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: laid on women in the household, which one report estimated 318 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: at least twenty additional hours of extual work was added 319 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: because of that household responsibility. Yeah, any how many hours 320 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: do you think a week you average for this job? 321 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: I will say it heavily depends on the week, but 322 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: it can go up to a fifty or six. See 323 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: And in fact, I have a friend who uses an 324 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: app where almost like you're clocking and clocking out because 325 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: we don't traditionally do that with our job, but just 326 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: to keep tracks, so I know how many hours I 327 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: am putting in some weeks it's much less, for sure, 328 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: but because of the way our jobs are structured, and 329 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: now you're doing that at home, and those lines are 330 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: blurred between like home life and office life, and depending 331 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: on your state of mind, you might. 332 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: Be working, you might be working really early in. 333 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: The morning or at off hours, so you're not thinking 334 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: of it in that way, and so it's really difficult 335 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: to get a clear idea of how much it is. 336 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: Especially I don't know if you've experienced this, but I 337 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: feel like the hours just bleed together and somehow, like 338 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the pandemic are stressed. I 339 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: feel like things are taking me much longer than they 340 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: used to take me, and I can't really say what 341 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: that is. I know, maybe it's not even true, but 342 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: it feels like I used to be able to get 343 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: all my work done in pretty standard work time hours 344 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: and now it's like working weekends is an out of 345 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: the that's pretty regular. 346 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: Right, And I think that's part of the problem that 347 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: we are not addressing enough, especially when we talk about 348 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: working from home, especially when we talk about salary jobs 349 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: and why it can be problematic because when you start 350 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 3: dwindling down how many hours you truly work, you're like, oh, 351 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: I'm getting paid five dollars an hour, that's right, that's 352 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: not worth it, and as in fact what you're talking about, 353 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: why it takes you longer. One of the workplace experts, 354 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: Jennifer Moss, actually stated that yes, burnout, which you may 355 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 3: not even realize you have, often leads to brain fog, fatigue, 356 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: and chronic stress, and has made even small tasks like 357 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: folding laundry or unloading a dishwasher really exhausting, which means 358 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 3: it takes you longer and it seems really hard when 359 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 3: it's like I've done this for so many years. Why 360 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 3: is this a problem now? And especially again when we 361 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: can't differentiate our regular hours versus work hours. And you're 362 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 3: better at getting on top of things than I am, 363 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 3: but you're not better at stopping. Yeah, you don't limit 364 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: yourself and that is problematic for you. Me, I'll give 365 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: up some times, but it bleeds into my hour stretch 366 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: over a twelve hour work day. But I and it 367 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: may be eight hours, but it may take me three 368 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: hours to do one of the tests that should have 369 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: taken me thirty minutes, like I actually measured, like this 370 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: should take me this long. 371 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: It take me this long? What did I just do? 372 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: And part of that, especially when I this kind of 373 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 3: job to me is so different because research seems so 374 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 3: like college like that I can't quite grasp professional versus research, 375 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: which is again very different from me from what I 376 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: used to do, which I would go in and have 377 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: conference calls and you know, different things like that. That 378 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: was obviously like a different level of professional bits where 379 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: I would do a documentation of interviews. When I would 380 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 3: do investigations, it was different. This researching things, it seems 381 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: like it's almost against school like which meant I would 382 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: wait till the last minute, but do it, hammit within 383 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: six hours. So my ideal discipline has gone out the 384 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 3: window and I have regressed to really bad college habits 385 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: for this job. So it's really weird. But on top 386 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: of that, again, my confidence, I feel like is shocked 387 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: because this is something that this kind of job allows 388 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 3: for a lot of people to critique it. Outside of 389 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: just your boss and ourselves, you have so many people 390 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: who have so many opinions that it makes me so 391 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 3: shell shocked that I feel like I can't do my 392 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 3: job properly and I don't have the confidence to say 393 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: that I have. 394 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. 395 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: So it's a whole different thing, which again brings back 396 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: the whole like burnout stress where I get I quit. Yeah. 397 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 1: Well, and there's a lot we could unpack there, and 398 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure we will in a future episode of Just 399 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: when we have the conversation of you know, being feminist 400 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: enough or am I like is my voice worth hearing? 401 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: And then you get the critiques, and then you get 402 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 4: in your head and then you doubt everything about yourself 403 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 4: and what you're doing, and then you have a pandemic 404 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 4: and you're like, I know, I could do better, but 405 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 4: I'm so stressed rightly, like just all this stuff. 406 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 2: And I will say for me all so for the 407 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 2: long work hours. 408 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: This is something I thought about when I was going 409 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: on a mental experiment of like what would happen if 410 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: I got fired today? And I was just thinking that 411 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: I do rely on work a lot to as a 412 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: stress Like as stressful as it is, it also distracts 413 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: me from other politics or it gives me something to do, 414 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: so I use it in that way also. 415 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: So that's another aspect of this whole thing. 416 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, as we get back to whatever normal is, 417 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: and many would argue there is no real getting back 418 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: to what we assumed to be normal before the pandemic, 419 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: it is important to measure how you see yourself as 420 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: in taking care to not fall under the pressures and 421 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: lies of unrealistic expectations. We do have some advice on 422 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: how to care for yourself as we ease back into 423 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: society and as many of us have discussed, did the 424 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: pressures of returning how to deal with those the pressures 425 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: returning to putting the job first in a capitalistic society. 426 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 3: So here's one letting things go prioritize what you need 427 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 3: and the best way for you to be productive. So 428 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 3: most times you can't do it all. That's unrealistic, unhealthy 429 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: to think that you have to and that's something that 430 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: you can do and we have to prioritize in order 431 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: to be able to be productive. So that includes saying 432 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: no when you don't have the time to do it, 433 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 3: or just if you don't want to. So if they're 434 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 3: asking you to volunteer, don't say yes if you don't 435 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: want to, if you don't enjoy it. Why learn compassionate detachment, 436 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 3: which is defined as the quote manner in which we 437 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 3: relate to others when we allow them to deal with 438 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 3: their own problems and therefore they're free to choose to 439 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: become responsible for their own issues. Also, you could say 440 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: it as you can observe, but not absorb, taking on 441 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: those responsibilities. And here's a few ways to do that. 442 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 3: One retreat. Remove yourself from that situation if it's not 443 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 3: a situation you want to be a part of, or 444 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 3: if it's not giving you good vibes, Put down that phone, 445 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: walk away from that conversation, go with hide in the 446 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 3: closet if you need to. Hiding's great. I love doing that. Restore, 447 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 3: whether it's going in a quiet space like we talked about, 448 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 3: taking some deep breaths, maybe showering to wash off that 449 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: negativity literally, or even a much needed fifteen minute power nap. 450 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: Who knows we evaluate? Is this person someone who is 451 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 3: there for you as much as you are there for them. 452 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 3: You need to really consider what this friendship is. Is 453 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: it toxic? Even this work relationship? Is it uplifting and 454 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 3: same as any situation. Listen to your body, listen to 455 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 3: your instincts. 456 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: Which is sometimes easier said than done. And I'm actually 457 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: really working on that. Taking time for yourself, so that 458 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: could be things like going outside, turning off your phone. 459 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: I just lost my phone, so I'm kind of dealing 460 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: with this right now. 461 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: She's been now twice, she's envaccinated and lost her phone 462 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: on the second time, not the first time. That's true. 463 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: Give yourself breaks throughout the day, even if you are 464 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: working from home, step away from your workspace and stay connected. 465 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: Find your people. Stay connected with them, whether it's just 466 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: a quick text exchange or chat. Restore yourself with the 467 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: people who know you and love you for who you are. 468 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: Ponchos and all and Yes, Samantha even though you're Pancho 469 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: scared the crap out of me that one time because 470 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: it was hanging on a closet wall. You're still a 471 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: great friend of mine. 472 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: It was my uh wearable comforter. That is a giant poncho. 473 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: But it's the size of a tent. Yeah, because it's 474 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: also very very thick. It looks like a person. 475 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: Just staring at you. Is true, That's what I thought, 476 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 2: and it scared me. 477 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: But to be fair, I am easily scared too. 478 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 2: Well. 479 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: Listeners, please let us know if you have any tips 480 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: or trick or thoughts. We love hearing them all. You 481 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: can email us at Stuff Media, Momstuff at iHeartMedia dot com. 482 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: You can find us on Instagram at Stephane Never Told 483 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 1: You or on Twitter at mom Stuff Podcast. Thanks as 484 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: always to our super producer Christina, Thank you, and thanks 485 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: to you for listening. Stefan Never Told You is a 486 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 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