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Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday and welcome into Cleveland Browns Daily. It is

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Speaker 2: Draft week and Cleveland Browns Daily, as always, brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Bally Bet, coming soon to Ohio. Nathan's and

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Speaker 2: Gibbe with you, Todave. We've got a loaded show for you.

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Speaker 2: We're going to kick things off in just a moment

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Speaker 2: here with Dane Brugler from the Athletic with some final

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Speaker 2: draft push. You're going to get to hear our exclusive

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Speaker 2: interview with Brown's general manager Andrew Barry. Later on an

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Speaker 2: hour number one. Kicking off our number two, Brooke Pryor

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Speaker 2: We continue our tour around the league and then Anthony

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Speaker 2: Great job by you, Gibbe, good to be back.

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Speaker 3: It is Draft a week.

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Speaker 2: There's a ton of buzz in the league for this draft,

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Speaker 2: not as much here in Bria. But yesterday Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: We've got reddit boards moving odds, We've got a lot

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Speaker 2: this week. And for Browns fans, patients, patience is what

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Speaker 2: I would urge for you. Thursday night, have fun, like anybody,

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Speaker 2: Then we'll, I think we'll start to get into it.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think you need to worry at all

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Speaker 2: We'll start just in general. We'll talk more about the

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Speaker 3: I saw something that came out with it, and I

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Speaker 2: It's not just the Browns, but Jalen Hurts doing it. And

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Speaker 2: Twisted Tea Hotline right now for the premier draft analysts

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Speaker 2: and our resident draft guru once again this year, Dane

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Speaker 2: Brugler from The Athletic join the show now via the

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Speaker 2: The Beast, the premitient draft guy, especially this year for

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Speaker 2: Browns fans, because listen, these are names you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to dig a little deep for. We don't pick tell

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Speaker 2: pick seventy four. You're gonna get all the information on

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Speaker 2: everybody you want in the Beast. Give it IV to

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Speaker 2: get my Beast in here.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready. I'm ready for my Beast. Good news. I'll

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Speaker 2: Good. I look forward to that, and I look at

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Speaker 2: Chatting with the author himself, Dane Brugler at dp Brugler

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Speaker 3: Hey? Good after?

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Speaker 4: How are we doing today, guys?

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Speaker 3: Dane?

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Speaker 2: Get break down your day for us, Like in this

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Speaker 2: last week leading up to the draft, how many hours

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, when I get five minutes, ten minutes and trying

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Speaker 4: You know, I've I've got that final mock draft that's

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Speaker 3: So you're right, there is some interest. Did you just say?

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Speaker 2: And did I hear you?

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Speaker 2: This right now is your twelfth interview of the day.

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Speaker 4: It is. It's been a shock. I got a water

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Speaker 2: But you know, I hate those halls, man. You gotta

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're ready to go, all right? How when do

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Speaker 4: So definitely I've already started on next year's the Draft

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Speaker 2: It's incredible and you can get the Beasts. As we said,

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Speaker 4: And no two stories are alike, They're all different. They

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Speaker 2: Incredible stuff. Talking with Dane Brugler. All right, let's talk

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Speaker 4: But you never know. All it takes is one conversation

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Speaker 4: You know, I know we like these two defensive players,

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Speaker 4: Anderson will be the spoiler. That's it exactly. We got

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Speaker 4: You know, it could be I believe the Will Levis smoke.

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Speaker 2: And again these aren't my words or my research. It's

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Speaker 2: I'm just kind of surprised that people who love traits

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Speaker 2: It's just an interesting thing, is that, And that's probably

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Speaker 4: I think Anthony Richardson probably has the widest outcomes of

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Speaker 4: It's just it's a it's the biggest projection because again

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Speaker 2: It's going to be fun to see where he goes

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Speaker 4: years old. It's an upside pick someone that will be

436
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Speaker 4: poor of the rotation as a rookie, and then someone

437
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Speaker 4: you project being a starter hopefully year two, year three.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of ability there, a lot

439
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Speaker 4: that we just haven't even seen yet. So I think

440
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Speaker 4: with Drevon Dexter, you're buying low and you think you

441
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Speaker 4: can coach him up as a guy that basketball focused

442
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Speaker 4: most of his life. But there's than what we've seen

443
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Speaker 4: more talent, and so I think that he is realistic

444
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Speaker 4: to be there, but also wouldn't be surprised if he

445
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Speaker 4: went in top sixty picks. So I think that you know,

446
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Speaker 4: somewhere in that late too early three would make sense

447
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Speaker 4: for this team.

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Speaker 2: And then who would if if like a Mazzie Smith

449
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Speaker 2: or a Benton were there, would they be in your

450
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Speaker 2: mind better? That would be kind of like the dream scenario,

451
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Speaker 2: but it's unlikely that either will.

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Speaker 4: Be I'll be pretty surprised if Mazzie makes it out

453
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Speaker 4: of the first round. To be honest with you, he's

454
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Speaker 4: just you know, there's too much to like there, and

455
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Speaker 4: too many teams need defensive tackles now, and in Benton,

456
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Speaker 4: there's always a chance. You know, this isn't a great

457
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Speaker 4: defensive tackle class, and I think a lot of teams

458
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Speaker 4: need them. That's why you know, I would I would

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Speaker 4: be surprised if Keanu Benton fell all the way to

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Speaker 4: the third round. I think there's too many teams that

461
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Speaker 4: could use him in a second. But if he did fall,

462
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Speaker 4: you know, I think that he'd be definitely in that mix.

463
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Speaker 4: They Jervon Dexter and Cando Benton graded very similar to

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Speaker 4: me in terms of overall grade. You know, they're different

465
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Speaker 4: stages of he has pass ors potential and another young

466
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Speaker 4: player is still just twenty one years old for a

467
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Speaker 4: fourth year senior. So if Benton were to slipped through

468
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Speaker 4: the cracks a little bit, you know, I definitely think

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Speaker 4: he'd be at the top of the list there at

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Speaker 4: the seventy four.

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Speaker 2: All right, same thing with the edge. And I remember

472
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Speaker 2: at the beginning of this when you and I were talking,

473
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Speaker 2: you were talking about the kid from I want to

474
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Speaker 2: say he's Kansas State, and that you don't think you

475
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Speaker 2: don't think he would be there in the third round

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Speaker 2: probably not.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a better chance he goes in the

478
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Speaker 4: top sixty picks Felix and a duque Uzama. You know,

479
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Speaker 4: he's sixty three to two hundred and fifty five pounds.

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Speaker 4: You know, a guy that is good enough against the run,

481
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Speaker 4: but he's he's the guy that gets after the passer.

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Speaker 4: You know, he can win at the top of the rush.

483
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Speaker 4: He will use different hand techniques, set up rusher or

484
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Speaker 4: set up blockers, does a really nice job. So I

485
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Speaker 4: think he's somewhere in that top sixty mix. It's a

486
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Speaker 4: really deep year for edge rushers, and so which one

487
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Speaker 4: of these guys might might slip a little bit? You know,

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Speaker 4: I think one that I keep coming back to for

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Speaker 4: this team. And maybe this is even with that second

490
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Speaker 4: third round pick. But Isaiah McGuire at a Missouri sixty

491
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Speaker 4: four and a half two hundred and sixty eight pounds,

492
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Speaker 4: another young player. He's a twenty one year old fourth

493
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Speaker 4: year senior. He's in a cender. He every year he

494
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Speaker 4: got better and better and better. All he has to

495
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Speaker 4: do is throw on the Georgia tape and watch him

496
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Speaker 4: go up against Broderick Jones, who's going to be a

497
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Speaker 4: top twenty pick Thursday night. And you see him convert

498
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Speaker 4: speed to power against the left tackle. You see him

499
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Speaker 4: use the physical hands, the heavy hands to go through

500
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Speaker 4: Broderick Jones. And so he also has speed to him.

501
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Speaker 4: He's got an NFL body, you know. And and and

502
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Speaker 4: as I hear myself talk, maybe maybe you do have

503
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Speaker 4: to take him a seventy four. You know, you don't

504
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 4: wanna you want to pass on him there. You know

505
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Speaker 4: he's a he's a guy in that third round mix

506
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Speaker 4: I think would make sense for the Browns.

507
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Speaker 2: Would he be if if the if he were the selection?

508
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Speaker 2: Is he like a nice compliment to Alex Right and

509
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 2: sense at Alex Writ's more kind of the big end

510
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: played the run very well. We don't know what he's

511
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Speaker 2: going to become as a pass rushing league, whereas McGuire,

512
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Speaker 2: somebody you think is a rookie could step into sub

513
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Speaker 2: package pass rushing roles.

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Speaker 4: Uh No, Honestly, he's probably more along the lines of

515
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Speaker 4: what Alex Wright is and Isaiah Thomas, you know, because

516
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Speaker 4: he brings that power. He's not He's more of a

517
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Speaker 4: power guy than a pure speed guy. But he does

518
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Speaker 4: offer a little bit of both, uh okay, And he

519
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 4: has that length and so you know he'll long arm blockers,

520
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Speaker 4: he'll uh convert that speed to power. So I don't

521
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Speaker 4: know if you're if you're looking for a perfect compliment,

522
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure he fits. But I mean, I think

523
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Speaker 4: you're at that point in the third round, I think

524
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Speaker 4: you want just really good rushers.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: If if you're looking for more of the speed guy,

527
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Speaker 4: I think maybe maybe even wait until the fourth round

528
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Speaker 4: and a guy like Lonnie Phelps from Kansas. I think

529
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Speaker 4: he might be more of that speed compliment. Half two

530
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Speaker 4: hundred and forty five pounds. You know, he was a Miami,

531
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Speaker 4: Ohio guy transferred to Kansas this past year. Four or

532
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Speaker 4: five five speed at that at that size, and he

533
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Speaker 4: is tough to control off the edge. Also plays on

534
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Speaker 4: special teams. So if they want more of that speed

535
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Speaker 4: guy on the edge, you know, maybe a Nick Hampton

536
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Speaker 4: out of Appalachian State in the third round, but maybe

537
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Speaker 4: they wait to the fourth and get a guy like

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Speaker 4: Lonnie Phelps out of Kansas.

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Speaker 2: Love it, Dane awesome best. Is there one name real

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Speaker 2: quick and we'll get you out here, one name real

541
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Speaker 2: quick at the safety position. If the Browns were looking

542
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Speaker 2: for that safety slot, corner type of a player. Is

543
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Speaker 2: there anybody in this I've heard it's not a great

544
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Speaker 2: safety draft, but is there anybody that seems like might

545
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Speaker 2: be a fit for you in that regard.

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Speaker 4: It's Kwan Martin out of Illinois, where to make it

547
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Speaker 4: to seventy four. I would have a hard time passing

548
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Speaker 4: on him. You know, I think he's one of the

549
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Speaker 4: top nickels in this draft. He played, you know, more

550
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Speaker 4: of a single high but also rotated down, played in

551
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Speaker 4: the slot five to eleven, one ninety five, one of

552
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 4: the more athletic defensive backs in this class. Blew up

553
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Speaker 4: the combine. You know, there's a lot to like about

554
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 4: the way the player he has grown into, especially this

555
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Speaker 4: past year as a full time starter. Kawan Martin one

556
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 4: of my favorite players in the draft and a guy

557
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Speaker 4: that if he's there at seventy four, I would not

558
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Speaker 4: be surprised at all if the Browns are interested Jamie

559
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 4: Robinson with that, maybe that second third rounder, maybe that

560
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 4: first fourth rounder. He could be in that conversation. Five

561
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 4: ten and a half, one hundred ninety one pounds, you know,

562
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 4: average speed, average size, but he's a quick reaction player.

563
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 4: He's a guy that does not think too much. He

564
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 4: sees it and he goes. So you see the range,

565
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 4: you see the ability to track down ball carriers in

566
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Speaker 4: the run game, and he'll drive on throws and break

567
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Speaker 4: them up too. So Jamie Robinson, if you're looking for

568
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Speaker 4: that nickel safety, you know he'd be another one of

569
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Speaker 4: those options. Late third, early fourth.

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572
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Speaker 2: I really think is it is the must have complimentary

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Speaker 2: piece for watching the Browns draft every year, but especially

574
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Speaker 2: this year when the first name that's called for the

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Speaker 2: Browns is probably somebody that you aren't all that familiar with.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just seventy fourth picking the draft. So

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Speaker 2: Get the Beast. Dame always a pleasure man. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: the time, rest that voice, and we appreciate you spend

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Speaker 2: some of your time with us anytime.

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: some reaction to Aaron Rodgers being a jet. Talk a

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Speaker 2: probably about ten fifteen minutes, as well as Brooke Pryor

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Speaker 2: at two o'clock Anthony Poisel to thirty. So lots still

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Speaker 2: to get to on this program here, but give it.

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Speaker 2: Start with the big news yesterday, Aaron Rodgers finally a jet.

601
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Speaker 2: They swap picks in the first round thirteen and fifteen.

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Speaker 2: They send a second round this second rounder this year

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00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: as well, and then a conditional I think a fifth

604
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 2: rounder and then a conditional second next year that if

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Speaker 2: you play sixty five percent of the snaps is a

606
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Speaker 2: first round pick, so barring an injury, it will be

607
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Speaker 2: another first round pick for them next So I think

608
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Speaker 2: a good haul. Honestly for the Packers. You weren't going

609
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Speaker 2: to get anything for Aaron Rodgers, and you were able

610
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Speaker 2: to get you move up two spots this year, get

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Speaker 2: a second, and also get a future first. So that

612
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Speaker 2: feels to me like a pretty good deal.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a great deal. I'm glad they held out.

614
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 3: I don't know for how long we've been hearing and

615
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 3: reading that this was going to be for anything but

616
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Speaker 3: a first round pick. Yep. I'm glad that the Packers

617
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: held their ground, and I think the Jets. The Jets

618
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Speaker 3: didn't have another option. The market has settled unless you're

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Speaker 3: going to go get Lamar. But you're probably not gonna

620
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Speaker 3: go get Lamar. I'm assuming the Ravens are going to

621
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Speaker 3: match your deal for Lamar Jackson, So unless you go

622
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Speaker 3: and trade for him, there really weren't a whole lot

623
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Speaker 3: of options. And we talked about it yesterday on the show.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday was day forty since Aaron Rodgers said, I'm going

625
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Speaker 3: to go play for the New York Jets forty days

626
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: with no movement, Like at some point something had to

627
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Speaker 3: happen this week. Yeah, and I think, you know, the

628
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: Packers really making sure and holding out for their for

629
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Speaker 3: the for those first rounders paid dividends, because barring an

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Speaker 3: injury or something, Aaron Rodgers is gonna play sixty five percent. Yes,

631
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Speaker 3: get yes, Yeah. It's a home run for them. And

632
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Speaker 3: if you're the Jets, it's the price of doing business,

633
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Speaker 3: if you want a quarterback in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: What do you think for the Jets, Like, I feel

635
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Speaker 2: like they have to get to an AFC championship game

636
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Speaker 2: with him for this to have been successful. I would

637
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Speaker 2: think so, I mean, probably beyond that, but that's to

638
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: me the minimum, Like you got to get to an

639
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: AFC championship game with him. Yeah, But I think just

640
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: like I think people for us, I think the true

641
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: for our trade, like for that to ultimately be deemed

642
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: a success, we've got it for It's different because he's

643
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: much younger than Rogers, but we've got to win some divisions.

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Speaker 3: We got to get to an AFC Championship game and

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Speaker 3: hopefully play.

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Speaker 2: For Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's when I was down in Florida a

648
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago. Ran into a Jets guy. He

649
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: was running the clubhouse and I had a Browns Poll on.

650
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Speaker 3: We got to talking about the Jets and he's just like,

651
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Speaker 3: I go, what's your expectation? Like, what do you want?

652
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Speaker 3: He goes, literally, I want to be playing for an

653
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Speaker 3: AFC championship and wherever. And he said, if they makes

654
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Speaker 3: it to the champion AFC Championship, whatever happens at that

655
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: point happens. But he's like, I'm a Jets guy, I'd

656
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Speaker 3: love to just go to the playoffs and stop being

657
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: the dormat of the AFC East. And he's like, this

658
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Speaker 3: gives us a chance to do that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Patriots are clearly positioned as of today

660
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Speaker 2: to be the dormat of the AFC's which is, I

661
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Speaker 2: think something to say. But I mean, the Bills are

662
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Speaker 2: probably still the favorite to win it. The Jets are

663
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Speaker 2: probably close, and then Miami if Tua is healthy, which

664
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Speaker 2: is a huge if, but or maybe they make some

665
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Speaker 2: type of a move and shot up their quarterback situation.

666
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Speaker 2: But that's a team that has got a Super Bowl roster.

667
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Speaker 2: I mean the AFC so loaded, it's ridiculous.

668
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really is for higher or lower CBS has

669
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Speaker 3: now put out their QB rankings for both divisions, or

670
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Speaker 3: both the AFC and the NFC. So we'll go over

671
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Speaker 3: that at two thirty with Poisl. But it's there's a

672
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Speaker 3: there's a big discrepancy between the two.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I guess I've it close.

674
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Speaker 3: It's crazy, yeah, but I think got good trade for both.

675
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Speaker 3: I mean the Jets had to make the deal to

676
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Speaker 3: get a quarterback yep. And the Packers did what they

677
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: needed to held out, got some really high end draft

678
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Speaker 3: picks potentially.

679
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean other if you're the Packers, it

680
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: was either Aaron Rodgers was going to retire or you

681
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: were going to pay him to not play, or you

682
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: ended up getting moved up ahead of the Patriots this

683
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: year in the draft, which felt obviously like it was

684
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: an important thing to them. That was an important component.

685
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Speaker 2: They got a two this year and then on one

686
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Speaker 2: next year. And I think there was also like they

687
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: got there some other ones gave up a three year

688
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: they got something like that.

689
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Speaker 3: But yeah, a huge one for It's time for them

690
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: to move forward. They're not underneath Roger's thumb anymore. They

691
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: can do their thing.

692
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: Yep, I guess they most certainly can they they can

693
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Speaker 2: do their thing. Crazy story today, And as I understand it,

694
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Speaker 2: somebody on Reddit claimed to be close to Will Levis

695
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: and that Will Levis was telling everybody it was a

696
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: done deal. He's going to be the number one pick

697
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 2: of the Texans I've met now the Texans of Carolina.

698
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Speaker 3: The draft of the draft. Yeah, and I mean you

699
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: just heard Danes say it like Vegas doesn't move lines

700
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Speaker 3: or move move their predictions and all that for any

701
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: for nothing, like there's a method behind the madness. I

702
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: will also say we are in the midst of silly season.

703
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: But he was at like fifty to one and it

704
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: dropped as low as five to one at one point.

705
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: I'm going to be the top pick in the draft,

706
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: which is insane. Now, if it ends up being true, incredible.

707
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Speaker 2: I just don't think that's going to be the case.

708
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Speaker 3: I don't. It'd be amazing. It'll blow my mind. I

709
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 3: mean we talked about it yesterday. Peter King in his

710
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 3: football Born in America was like a month ago. CJ.

711
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: Stroud was a consensus number one pick. He was hanging out,

712
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: he was hugging Josh McCown. He had his pro day.

713
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: The entire Carolina staff was around him, no one else

714
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: was around him. And a month later he and Peter

715
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: King said it yesterday. Stroud might not go in the

716
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Speaker 3: top six. He might be the third quarterback off the ball.

717
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: That s two test whatever it is, and apparently it's

718
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: been around for longer.

719
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Speaker 3: There is replaced. The wonder lick is the main thing.

720
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but for quarterbacks especially, there are teams

721
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Speaker 2: that really believe in it. And there's never been a

722
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Speaker 2: quarterback that has scored as low as CJ. Stroud that's

723
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Speaker 2: been since successful, Like he's like off the charts low

724
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Speaker 2: like where to the point where I was reading a

725
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Speaker 2: couple articles, I think Feldman at the Athletic Bruce Feldman

726
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: had one where he talked to people around league where

727
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: they were like everybody thought it had to be a mistake,

728
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Speaker 2: Like there's no way that that could be his score.

729
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: So teams that believe in it obviously are going to

730
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Speaker 2: be scared by that.

731
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Speaker 3: I guess bo said from the people he talked to,

732
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Speaker 3: it was like the eighteenth percentile that he wasn't like

733
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Speaker 3: eighteenth like he had a different eighteenth percentile. Still not good, Yeah,

734
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Speaker 3: there was there was that means that eighty two percent

735
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Speaker 3: of the world is better at it than you are.

736
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Speaker 3: Not great.

737
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Speaker 2: No, like if you want when you when you're talking

738
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Speaker 2: percent you want to be like ninety ninth percentile, which

739
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: means you're the best, not great. No, No, I don't know.

740
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Speaker 2: I think yeah, it was something. It's wild though, because

741
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: you've seen him play football, and he can play football

742
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: very well.

743
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: We've seen it. If I'm the Colts, I'm rooting for.

744
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: This, yes, now there is. Somebody also brought up an

745
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: interesting point, like he's played he played at Ohio State,

746
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: and you can't fault him for this, but he played

747
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: at Ohio State with the best receiving cord that he'll

748
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 2: play with At any point in his career. He won't

749
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Speaker 2: have an NFL room that's as good as that room

750
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Speaker 2: that he had there, and they were playing against college defenses.

751
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

752
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: I don't think j Stroud is really good. I think

753
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: it's nuts, And I do think if Houston could go

754
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: to me, there are only two picks you can make,

755
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 2: and they're both quarterbacks. You either take Anthony Richardson and say,

756
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: we're just gonna go with the guy that could end

757
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: up being the best of this bunch, and if he's not,

758
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: you know, we can take another swing. But we got

759
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: to take the swing while we're here and we think

760
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: he has the traits whatever, Or you take CJ. Stroud,

761
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: who's the most right to step in and help you

762
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 2: right now. Other than that, the idea that you take

763
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: a defensive guy too, to me is wild. That feels

764
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: like a very wild.

765
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: Thing to do.

766
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 2: But that's where we're at, apparently, so we'll find out Thursday.

767
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Speaker 2: That's why, at least Thursday night there is some intrigue.

768
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So Peter kings mock yesterday had the Texans going

769
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: defense at two, but with the Texans taking our pick,

770
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Speaker 3: which was number twelve.

771
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: Yep.

772
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: He has it set up where they're taking I think

773
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Speaker 3: it's Hooker, the quarterback from Tennessee at twelve, yes, and

774
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 3: Richardson falls twenty three and the Vikings. Wow, now the

775
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: pick that we bow and I both lost our You

776
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: know what on is he's got the Squealers taking Jackson

777
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: Smith and Jigba at seventeen. That would be really bad.

778
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't loved that at all.

779
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: No, I don't think you'd like that. No, I wouldn't

780
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 3: like that. So I don't know. It's silly season. Buckle up, kids. Well,

781
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: we'll get answers on Thursday. That to me and Brooke

782
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: Pryor will join us at two o'clock. And a reminder,

783
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: because the tickets and becoming a season ticket member and

784
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: all that stuff, Rogers and the Jets come here this year.

785
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see what happens now with the

786
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: schedule maker. That's going to be a primetime game, I

787
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 3: would think so. I would think so as well.

788
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 2: We often play the Jets in primetime, feels like anyway,

789
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens there, all right, when we

790
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: come back are exclusive. I went one on one with

791
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: Browns general manager Andrew Barry the week of the You

792
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: can hear that from last night's draft preview show that's

793
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: coming your way next here on Clem Brown's Daily, brought

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Speaker 2: to you by bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet, Coming

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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome back to Climb Brown's Daily, brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Bally Bet coming soon to Ohio. Take a

799
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: listen to our conversation from last night's draft preview show

800
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: when I went one on one with Brown's general manager

801
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: Andrew Berry. Very happy not to be joined by the

802
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: general manager if you're Cleveland Browns. Andrew Berry ab an

803
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: interesting one.

804
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 3: Right.

805
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: Last year you didn't pick until the third round, but

806
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: you didn't know that going into it. This year you

807
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: know it going into it. Nothing's could change, obviously, But

808
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 2: how does that change the mindset if at all? And

809
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: should people be paying attention to anything Thursday? Are you

810
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 2: going to say Thursday? Just enjoy the shef?

811
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 5: So it does not change our first of all, thank

812
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 5: you for having me night, but great, it does not

813
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 5: change the mindset for us in terms of preparation or approach.

814
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 5: We have, you know, eight picks. They start in the

815
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 5: third round today. That could change for the better or

816
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 5: for the worse before you get to the draft or

817
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 5: during the draft. That being said, I think folks can

818
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 5: probably go to bed early on Thursday, if I'm guessing.

819
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: So for you, in the normal draft, you would be

820
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: watching for an opportunity to maybe present itself, maybe late

821
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: in the first round on Thursday night, As you said,

822
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: they are sleep easy for the folks. So what do

823
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: you as a general manager the things?

824
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: What do you watch for?

825
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Thursday night, honestly, it's really about just getting

826
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 5: your thoughts organized for Friday. Obviously you want to see

827
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 5: You're probably more interested in what the board looks like,

828
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: you know, late in the evening. You know, there are

829
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 5: certain situations where you do have ongoing discussions with veteran

830
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 5: player trades because that may come into play in Day

831
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 5: two of the draft. But you know, honestly, it's it's

832
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 5: probably more of a day for you know, organization, you know,

833
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 5: more than anything.

834
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Speaker 6: And you'll you'll kind of loosely monitor the draft.

835
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 5: Unless you have something active that may happen on Thursday night, do.

836
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: Do what all of us do, which is to say, oh, man,

837
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: I really like this guy and then oh gosh, the

838
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: Ravens drafted him, or ah, man, why do you have

839
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: to go into our division or anything like.

840
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 5: That, or anestee not not not usually not usually you'll

841
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 5: you'll have that every year. There are a lot of

842
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 5: players that you end up liking that you don't have

843
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 5: access to, so you you kind of maybe developed that

844
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 5: that resiliency, so to speak, over the course of your career.

845
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: All right, So Depot told us a story last year

846
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: that prior to the draft, and I don't know if

847
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: you guys have done this yet, but that basically everybody

848
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 2: was set asked of the final draft board, you know,

849
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: who's somebody on here you absolute wouldn't draft, And basically

850
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: it got the point where like nobody was left on

851
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: the draft board. Have you guys done that this year?

852
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: And we usually do that next week, next week, yeah, sorry,

853
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 3: next week after the fact.

854
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: I'll be curious enough, there were some people that actually

855
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: made it through that were because especially when you're looking

856
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 2: our board. Yes, like you said in you know, your

857
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: press conference last week, you said, yeah, we'll take Will Anderson.

858
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: He's there at seven four, he's not going to be

859
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: So your board is probably different. And everybody that's on

860
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: your board probably has some strengths, maybe some horse like tendencies,

861
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: and maybe there's some goose to them as well, because

862
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: that's why they're in the third round.

863
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 5: Now, that's that's exactly right. So just you understanding that,

864
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 5: and that happens probably earlier in the draft than people

865
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Speaker 5: than people realize.

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 5: Number one, there are no perfect players, and the ones

868
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 5: with the fewest holes they go in the top ten.

869
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 5: But it's really about identifying players whose strainths align with

870
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 5: your system, your scheme, your coaches, and may have a

871
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 5: weakness or two that could be developed and brought along

872
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 5: throughout their career.

873
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: Free agency. Now you went through it was actually very busy.

874
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: I mean there were a lot of people brought back.

875
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people added to this roster.

876
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: When you kind of sit back and look at what

877
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: you were able to accomplish in that point, which kind

878
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: of provides the frameworker at least you know where your

879
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: roster stands going into this draft. What do you think

880
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 2: overall of the way that that unfolded for you?

881
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're excited about the guys that we add, and

882
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 5: you know every team is every year, so I don't

883
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 5: I don't think we're unique in that regard. You know,

884
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 5: we don't know how to play out till we get

885
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 5: guys on the grass, particularly in the fall. But you know,

886
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 5: we do think that we were able to solidify a

887
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 5: number of different areas on the team, and you know,

888
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 5: we're looking forward to seeing how it plays out over

889
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 5: the next several months.

890
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: When you go into it with a certain goal and

891
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: let's use a theoretical player, maybe with theoretical defensive tackle,

892
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: and you see that they end up signing for around

893
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: twenty two.

894
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: Million a year.

895
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 2: And then you look at your team and you say, well,

896
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: now I have, first, actually a little bit less than that.

897
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: I've got a defensive tackle I like a lot, and

898
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: a free safety that I like a lot. Are those

899
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: things when you kind of go into it in one

900
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: path and then you have to pivot and you you'd said,

901
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: we pivoted a little bit on what we're going to

902
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: be able to do with safety, and I imagine maybe

903
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: that played a role in that. You know, is it

904
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: kind of fun when you think, oh, it could have

905
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: been one guy, but now it's two guys, and how

906
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: that breaks down? And then is that something you kind

907
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: of stay cognizant of as it evolves over the next

908
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: few years.

909
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 5: It's certainly something that you have to stay cognizant of,

910
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 5: both in the moment and as you think through multi

911
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 5: year planning. You know, because again I talk about resource allocations,

912
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 5: that's picks and that's like how you allocate your contracts

913
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 5: as well. But it's it's all plays a role into it.

914
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 5: Player's choice also plays a role into it, you know, Nate,

915
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 5: so like you know, there have been times in the

916
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 5: past where you know where maybe we've been you know,

917
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 5: a higher bidder or a comparable bidder, but you know,

918
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 5: taxis climate, whatever has pushed a guy or scheme has

919
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 5: pushed a guy another you know, another direction, and that's

920
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 5: the case for all teams. So understanding going into it

921
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 5: that you can do a lot of work and you

922
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 5: can have you know, certain preferences, but it just it's

923
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 5: just never gonna go one hundred sure of the way

924
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 5: that you plan.

925
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: How is it playing, because in some ways there has

926
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: to be somewhat of a game of chicken, right, and

927
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: that you're at the price point that you want, You've

928
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: decided that's what you want this player to be on

929
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: your roster at that price point. Their agent's job is

930
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: to make you probably go above that number for their

931
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: client's best interest and kind of slow playing it because

932
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: you do. I think you've done a very good job

933
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: getting who you wanted very very early. But then as

934
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: free agency unfolds and maybe that's when you're able to

935
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 2: get better bargains, better deals. Also do that, but still

936
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: be getting premier type players. Is that what what are

937
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: those to go take? It's just behind the curve. What

938
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 2: are those negotiations like and is that a fun part

939
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 2: of your job, a stressful part of a job or both?

940
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 5: You know, I I uh, I'll be honest, I hate

941
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 5: free agency like it it's really yeah, it's it's it's uh,

942
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 5: it's uh. It's a lot, and yeah it's a lot

943
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 5: in a short period of time, but it's actually not

944
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 5: because of the dealing with the agents or agents or players.

945
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 5: I think for us, the way we think of the

946
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 5: negotiations are we do a lot of work in the

947
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 5: you know, really that starts right after the trade deadline

948
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 5: on free agency, trades, you name it. And I think

949
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 5: really negotiation is a lot about what is your best

950
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 5: alternative or how you think about your alternatives.

951
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 6: And that's you know that along.

952
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 5: With like what we think the value is for the

953
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 5: player the skill set, you know, drives our pricing. But

954
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 5: that's why I says like you can't be afraid to pivot,

955
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 5: Like I think if you get locked into you know,

956
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 5: you know, one player or one skill set, that's when

957
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 5: you have a greater chance to make mistakes. I guess

958
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 5: unless like that's literally like you're you're only you're only alternative,

959
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 5: but so we we really look at it that way.

960
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 6: But you can't.

961
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 5: You just can't be afraid to pivot because you know,

962
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 5: when one door closes, it may offer offer some flexibility

963
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 5: in another area, and there's just kind of more than

964
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 5: one way to build a build a competent team.

965
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: So you did you enjoy making a trade in that

966
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 2: period more than you enjoy the actual free agency process?

967
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 6: Probably depends on who I'm making the trade.

968
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: Away, Well, it seems like a pretty smooth one.

969
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 5: Jet Joe's awesome to deal with. Joe is awesome to

970
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 5: deal with. So that that's that's a good one.

971
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 6: That's a good and easy one.

972
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: Is that always a fun one too? When you make

973
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: a trade that you know you can walk to your

974
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: coaching staff and they're already pretty fire, it is.

975
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 5: The harder ones are when Yeah, the harder ones are

976
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 5: when you're not when you're maybe training someone away or

977
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 5: you know, not doing that as much. But the ones

978
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 5: where you know the staff is excited, obviously, it makes

979
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 5: it easier to pull the trigger.

980
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: How much with a guy like Elijah Moore, for example,

981
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: do you rely on what you guys thought of him

982
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: coming out of college versus what you saw with the Jets.

983
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 5: For a player as early in Elijah's career as he is,

984
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 5: there may be is a little bit of like the

985
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 5: college aspect, but it's largely pro because to some regrade

986
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 5: doesn't really matter what you thought the player was in college.

987
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 5: It's like, how are they performing now and what are

988
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 5: the contextual fractors around their performance now? So with Elijah,

989
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 5: we felt really good about the skill set that he's

990
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 5: shown as a pro, his inside outside flexibility, his route

991
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 5: running and separation skills, as well as his hands, and

992
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 5: we think he compliments our wide receiver corp very nicely.

993
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: And he's very happy to be here, which is those

994
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: things always seemed to be nice, all right. So here

995
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 2: we go into this draft eight picks. I mean, we

996
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: were doing this messing around putting a fifty three together.

997
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: There's a pretty complete team. There's some obviously spots for competition,

998
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: you know, how do you kind of look at those

999
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: eight guys with an opportunity if it ends up being

1000
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: it could be more, as you've said, could be end

1001
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: up being fewer. How do you kind of look at

1002
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: that and then opportunity to fit into a team that

1003
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: is pretty well assembled at this point.

1004
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 5: You know, I don't think our mentality or my mental

1005
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 5: doesn't really change in that regard because I just as

1006
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 5: much as I like to think things are settled now,

1007
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 5: it's a little bit like free agency. Like things change,

1008
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 5: like things change, and yeah, you always hope they change

1009
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 5: for the better, but there's usually some mix of bad

1010
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 5: and good in terms of what actually ends up happening.

1011
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 5: So I think we'll know a lot more at the

1012
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 5: end of August. And you know, our goal is to

1013
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 5: look if you if if if if we're in a

1014
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 5: position where we have more players that we want to

1015
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 5: keep than we can that's a good position to be

1016
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 5: in because then at you know, at that point, if

1017
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 5: you need to, like that's when you maybe make some

1018
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 5: of those less popular trades that you know allows you

1019
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 5: to continue to build into the future.

1020
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm not going to ask you anything about

1021
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: what's going to happen, you know, this week, because we'll

1022
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: see it unfold in real time and it will be joyce.

1023
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: But I will ask you final one here your favorite

1024
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 2: draft memory as a member of the Cleveland Browns.

1025
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 3: First time bad, So I was thinking, I love it.

1026
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 5: I don't know if this is the one that's going

1027
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 5: to count, but honestly, it was twenty twenty one draft

1028
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 5: birth of my daughter.

1029
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: So got to my captain.

1030
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: Hit him in the heart, right there, Well done, ab,

1031
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to talk with you. Best of luck

1032
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: this week as you continue to add to the twenty

1033
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: twenty three Cleveland Browns.

1034
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 6: I appreciate you.

1035
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: Nate.

1036
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: All right, that's Brown's General Manager Andrew Barry. What an

1037
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 2: answer at the end there, scoring himself some serious Brownie

1038
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: points at home. Smart man there. That's why it's our GM.

1039
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: All right.

1040
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: When we come back hour number two, we're gonna kick

1041
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: it off by continuing our team by team off season

1042
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 2: look at the Pittsburgh Steelers as ESPN NFL Nation Steiler

1043
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: reporter Brook Pryor will join us. Thanks for listening to

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1050
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1051
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00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:22,840
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Speaker 3: Brook.

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Speaker 2: How you doing today?

1062
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 7: I am not bad. I am so happy that the

1063
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 7: draft is in just two days h and not next

1064
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 7: week like my dad thought. When I caught up with

1065
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 7: him earlier today, I said, he said, when's the draft?

1066
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 7: I said Thursday? And he goes next Thursday. And I said, God,

1067
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 7: I hope not. I'm pretty sure we're we're almost there.

1068
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 7: We are so close to the finish line.

1069
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: No, you're I'm sure you are quite ready for it.

1070
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: Let's just start, though, with the off season that the

1071
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: Steelers have had. You lose Cam Sutton. That's a big

1072
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: loss going to the Lions, but a lot of additions

1073
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: were made. I think this offseason resigning Larry Oguan Joby,

1074
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: but you sign Patrick Peterson, you get Cole Holkome at linebacker,

1075
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: you get the guard Samalo from the Philadelphia Eagles, which

1076
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: is a big one, and then the trade for Alan Robinson. Overall,

1077
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 2: do you think that the Steelers are in a better

1078
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: position right now than they were when the season ended?

1079
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: And what moves really stood out to you? Both good

1080
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: in terms of additions and also tough maybe in terms

1081
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: of subtractions.

1082
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the Steelers are in a better position

1083
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 7: than they were at the end of the season because

1084
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 7: they've added depths and I think resigned some of those

1085
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 7: key pieces like Larry Ogan Joby. Losing Cam Sutton is huge,

1086
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 7: He's versatile, He's one of the smartest players in the

1087
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 7: Steelers locker room, so it really does hurt to lose

1088
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 7: him to Detroit. But I think that the Steelers kind

1089
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 7: of lessen that blow by signing Patrick Peterson shortly after

1090
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 7: Cam Sutton left. And I think it also sets up

1091
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 7: well for them to take a corner in the draft

1092
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 7: coming up, because not only you know will Patrick Peterson,

1093
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 7: I think still produce at a fairly high level on

1094
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 7: the field. He can be a great mentor for a

1095
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 7: young guy. He said, that's something he really likes doing.

1096
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 7: And similar to that, I think is the trade for

1097
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 7: Alan Robinson. He's another guy that's been in the league

1098
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 7: for a long time and who said he really likes

1099
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 7: the mentor aspect of being a VET. He said yesterday,

1100
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 7: this is the first time he's been the oldest player

1101
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 7: in a position room. But I think that that was

1102
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 7: a really smart and savvy trade for omar Con. I

1103
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 7: think that he has just had a really good free

1104
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 7: agency for the first time, kind of in charge of

1105
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 7: running all that Andy Widel helping him out. There's been

1106
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 7: an Eagles flavor to some of the moves they've made,

1107
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 7: you know, signing guys like Nate Herbig and Isaac Sayomalu.

1108
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 7: I just think that the things that the Steelers did

1109
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 7: in free agency, they stuck to their principles. They didn't

1110
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 7: overpay for guys, and it's given them flexibility in the

1111
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 7: draft coming up because there isn't a glaring position of

1112
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 7: need that they're going to get painted into a corner.

1113
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 7: So I think this flexibility that they've gotten through free

1114
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 7: agency is really key.

1115
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a great place to go into it.

1116
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: That being said, the Steelers picking in the middle of

1117
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: the first round this year, what do you think you

1118
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: mentioned corner early, What are some of the positions and

1119
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: then even maybe some of the names that they're looking

1120
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: forward to get at number seventeen.

1121
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that where they are, they're going to

1122
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 7: have to, as Mike Tomlin says, have a hardcore plan,

1123
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 7: but be light on their feet because there could be

1124
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 7: an early run on tackles an early run on corners,

1125
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 7: and I think whichever one happens, they're in position to

1126
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 7: either trade up and make a move trade back. You know,

1127
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 7: if tackles are going off the board, they could pivot

1128
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 7: and take a corner. We actually just did our NFL

1129
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 7: Nation mock draft that airs tonight, I believe on ESPN two,

1130
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 7: and the way the board fell, I went with Joey

1131
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 7: Porter Junior, a guy the Steelers know very well. His

1132
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 7: dad obviously played for the Steelers coached for a little bit.

1133
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 7: That fits the need, especially with Cam Sutton leaving. I

1134
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 7: think Porter Junior is a great press corner, probably the

1135
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 7: best in this year's draft class. But I could also

1136
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 7: absolutely see the argument for, hey, we need to protect

1137
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 7: Kenny Pickett, we need to get the run game going.

1138
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 7: Let's get an offensive tackle, could be a guy like

1139
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 7: Tennessee's Dart out Right. Maybe they trade up and try

1140
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 7: to get Broderick Jones from Georgia or Paris Johnson Junior

1141
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 7: from Ohio State. I think those would require the Steelers

1142
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 7: to have to make one of those rare for them

1143
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 7: draft day trades to move up the board. But they

1144
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 7: have number seventeen, and then they also have number thirty

1145
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 7: two overall, the first pick on Day two, and that

1146
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 7: gives them a lot of flexibility. I think teams are

1147
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 7: gonna absolutely be lighting up the phones to try to

1148
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 7: get that pick. So I think that again, the Steelers

1149
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 7: are in a really good spot to address some of

1150
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 7: those needs that you know, yes, you would like to

1151
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 7: upgrade those spots, but you can pivot if the board

1152
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 7: starts falling a certain way.

1153
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: Right, and so it sounds to me like you're thinking

1154
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: maybe some help on the offensive line. But if you

1155
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: look at it really from a skill standpoint, you're set right,

1156
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: Najie Harris, Kenny Pickett, You've got now three receivers, with Robinson,

1157
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson and Pickens, who I think is very good.

1158
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: You got Friarmouth at tight end, so if the picks

1159
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: are offensive, it feels like it's going to go on

1160
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 2: the line. And then defensively, that's where they can really

1161
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: kind of buttress what has always been their bread and

1162
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: butter and their calling card that defense. So the ability

1163
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: to have three picks, I think you said three picks

1164
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 2: in the top forty nine and four in the top

1165
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 2: eighty is that's a pretty good place to be. The

1166
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: Browns won't pick, you know, as we know here till

1167
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 2: pick seventy four.

1168
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1169
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 7: Absolutely. And on the defensive side, I think that you

1170
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 7: could see the Steelers add to the defensive line the

1171
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 7: linebacker group, especially outside linebacker. They don't end up landing,

1172
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,959
Speaker 7: but landing bud Dupree. You wanted a one year year deal,

1173
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 7: the Steelers wanted to sign him for two. And I

1174
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 7: think that that's a position that absolutely need some depth

1175
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 7: behind TJ. Watt and Alex Highsmith. They just don't have

1176
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 7: a reliable third guy. They wanted Maalie Greed to be

1177
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 7: that that didn't work out, didn't get bud Dupree, So

1178
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 7: I would look at that position. Even inside linebacker. Yes,

1179
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 7: they added Cole Holcomb in free agency, but that's a

1180
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 7: spot that I think could also lose some depth after

1181
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 7: losing Robert Spulane to the Raiders. You know, he's a

1182
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 7: guy that I think went under the radar but was

1183
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 7: really big in the stopping the run. And then obviously,

1184
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 7: you know, corner, they could add a guy like Joey

1185
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 7: Porter Junior, but add some depth there, and even safety.

1186
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 7: You know, they don't re sign Terrell Edmonds and they

1187
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 7: add you know, Kean O'Neill and brought back to Monte

1188
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 7: ky Z. But I think that all of those defensive positions,

1189
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 7: they're not looking at it and saying, no, we're set there,

1190
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 7: We're good. I think that that they can always add

1191
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 7: to those.

1192
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see. I think the big

1193
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 2: question for the Steelers, and certainly we don't know what's

1194
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: going to happen in Baltimore, but assuming Lamar Jackson play,

1195
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: you know, they've got on paper right now the fourth

1196
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 2: best quarterback in the division.

1197
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 3: It's hard to win in that now.

1198
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 2: It just happens to be a loaded division from a

1199
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 2: quarterback standpoint, and a loaded conference Honestly, now, with the

1200
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: addition of Aaron Rodgers here, how much confidence is there

1201
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: in Kenny Pickett that he can be the guy that

1202
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: can compete with the you know Watson's, Jackson Burrow, Herbert Mahomes,

1203
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: Alan Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Trevor Lawrence, you know all the

1204
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: people now that make up this absurd AFC quarterback and crew.

1205
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 7: Right, the list just goes on and on and on.

1206
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: Boats crazy, right.

1207
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 7: I think the Steelers feel good about where Picket is

1208
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 7: after year one, especially when you put his performance into

1209
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 7: context that he wasn't practicing with the first team still

1210
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 7: players offensive line at all during training camp in the

1211
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 7: first four weeks of the season. Gets thrown in a

1212
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 7: halftime of that week four game, and it did not

1213
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 7: look pretty. Leading up to the bye, he was throwing picks,

1214
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 7: the offense was not in sync. But after the bye,

1215
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 7: they had this real come to Jesus meeting between you know, Picket,

1216
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 7: the entire the coaching staff, you name it. They all

1217
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 7: got on the same page. And I think what the

1218
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 7: Steelers are the most encouraged by is the improvement that

1219
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 7: he showed from the first half of the season to

1220
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 7: the second. Think he threw maybe one or two picks.

1221
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 7: After the buye, the offense looked better. The biggest thing

1222
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 7: is they have just got to score points, which you know,

1223
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 7: sounds like, yeah, no doubt, you're not gonna win games

1224
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 7: if you can't put points on the board. But their

1225
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 7: red zone execution was not great, and I think that

1226
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 7: that really has to improve. But I think that this

1227
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 7: year is going to be the year that tells the

1228
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 7: Steelers if can he Pikett is indeed the franchise guy

1229
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 7: that they drafted him to be, if he can you know,

1230
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 7: start fast, maintain it, be consistent, and be a difference

1231
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 7: maker for this team. I think that that this is

1232
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 7: the year, you know, I'll have another year working with

1233
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 7: Matt Canada, the entire offseason, all of that. But he

1234
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 7: has the intangibles, he has the leadership, he has that edge.

1235
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 7: But this is going to be a really pivotal year

1236
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 7: in I think the direction of the Steelers organization.

1237
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right top of Prior, who covers

1238
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: the Steelers for ESPN broke. What did you think of

1239
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 2: the decision you mentioned at Matt Canada coming back as

1240
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. What was your take on that and how

1241
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: was that received in and around Pittsburgh.

1242
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 7: Well, I can tell you it's not received well around

1243
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 7: with Pittsburgh. People are not real fond of Matt Canada.

1244
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 7: But you know what, I kind of felt like, this

1245
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 7: is always what the Steelers were going to do. This

1246
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 7: is not an organization that parts ways with guys when

1247
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 7: they still have years left on their contract, and Matt

1248
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 7: Canada had another year on his contract. I think too

1249
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 7: that they want to see what he can do with

1250
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 7: a full year of a guy running his system the

1251
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 7: entire time, the same guy. If you look at the

1252
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 7: way that he came in, he has been Roethlisberger and

1253
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 7: Ben's last year. Ben's not the kind of quarterback that

1254
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 7: runs what Canada wants to run. And I think that

1255
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 7: there was a lot of headbutting there. It just in

1256
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 7: terms of Ben wanted to do things a certain way.

1257
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 7: It wasn't always what Canada wanted to do. And then

1258
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 7: this year he as Mitch Trubisky for a little bit,

1259
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 7: and then the Steelers decided to pivot and go to

1260
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 7: Kenny Pickett. And so I think that they want to

1261
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 7: give Matt a full season with the same guy, a

1262
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 7: little less turnover, and see what he can do. And

1263
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 7: if they get to the end of this year and

1264
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 7: it is there's no improvement, they're not going to retain him, right,

1265
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 7: I mean that kind of feels like the obvious thing,

1266
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 7: especially with no more time left on his contract. But

1267
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 7: I think they were always going to let him coach

1268
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 7: out the end of his contract.

1269
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 2: Now, this is what I'm about to The question I'm

1270
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 2: about to post to you is a great problem to have,

1271
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: and it's one that right now is being asked even

1272
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: about our Cleveland Browns, which is again a great problem

1273
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: to have. There's only one football, I said earlier. Pickens,

1274
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: I think he's a superstar. Deontay Johnson, I think he's

1275
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: a star. We're not sure what Alan Robinson has left

1276
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: in the tank, but I certainly think that he can

1277
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: be a very productive player for them. Friarmuth at tight

1278
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: end and then Nausey in the backfield, not to much

1279
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: what Jalen Warren showed last year. There's only one football.

1280
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: Is there enough? Because I know in the wide receiver room,

1281
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 2: especially Pickens has been vocal. I know Deontay Johnson been

1282
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: vocal at times. Is there enough to keep everybody happy?

1283
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 7: I mean, you hope? So I think that that's the

1284
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 7: biggest thing that Matt Canada has to figure out this year.

1285
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 7: Because you list off all those names, they should not

1286
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 7: have a problem scoring points. They've got to get George

1287
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 7: Pickens more involved. It's wild that Deantay Johnson didn't have

1288
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 7: a touchdown last year.

1289
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: I mean, sane.

1290
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 7: I keep thinking about that, and it just makes less

1291
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 7: and less sense the more I think about it. So yeah,

1292
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Speaker 7: I mean, you hope that they can figure out a

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00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 7: way to balance that. But I think that that is

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00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 7: one of the biggest challenges that this team has to

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00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 7: figure out. And that's going to be part of the

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00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 7: piece of figuring out. Is Kenny the franchise quarterback. Is

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00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 7: Matt Canada the right offensive coordinator to move him in

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Speaker 7: that direction and to move this team into the right direction.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be fun to watch. I think this

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00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: will be a rare season and you could tell me

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00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: when's the last time that. And again, this assumes that

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson stays in Baltimore, but that the Steelers may

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00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: enter the season as the team being projected to be

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Speaker 2: fourth in the division.

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Speaker 7: You know, I want to say last year they were not.

1306
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 7: They might have been projected to finish third or fourth.

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01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 7: It feels like there's been a real changing with the

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01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 7: guard since, you know, the season that the Bengals the

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01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 7: Super Bowl. I think that the Steelers have gotten definitely

1310
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 7: not used to being in this position because that is

1311
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 7: not the standard around here, but it's not entirely unfamiliar,

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01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 7: and I think that they entered this season in a

1313
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 7: much better position than they did a season ago.

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Speaker 2: They certainly did. It's going to be a lot of

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01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 2: fun and certainly, look, Mike Tomlin never had a losing season.

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01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: We were there. Could have happened the final game last year.

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Speaker 2: Browns couldn't get it done. So incredible stuff. Brooke, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for stopping buy and for giving us

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Speaker 2: some great information on the Steelers.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: That's Brook Prior, Pittsburgh Steelers and ESPN NFL Nation reporter

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Speaker 2: calling in on the Twisted Tea Hotline brought to you

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Keep it twisted Cleveland when we come back,

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Speaker 2: and I are going to do some categories on the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna make GiB Me participates.

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Speaker 3: It canna be hard for him. To do.

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Speaker 2: I have a few.

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Speaker 3: I have literally spent this segment putting together my response

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Speaker 3: your notes. Oh good, I love it, all right, perfect?

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Speaker 2: All right, time now for our little dive into who Gibbee?

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Speaker 3: What does it say here? The land of Pukerville?

1343
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 2: The land of Pukerville? All right, we'll do it.

1344
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 3: Steelers, how how dare you? By the way? Accuse second

1345
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 3: favorite team? That's a good way. Did somebody text you

1346
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 3: that and you got it on the rebound? No?

1347
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: I know you give me the one finger.

1348
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 3: I gave you.

1349
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: Yes, it was funny, not funny pop the crowd they

1350
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: loved it. Not When it comes to that stupid team

1351
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 2: who the camera? Oh, except I got you on this

1352
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 2: camera today. This one.

1353
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 3: Yep, it's not even looking at me. It's like looking

1354
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 3: over it is. Now you're good. There we go.

1355
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: All right, Steelers uniforms, what do you think?

1356
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 3: I'd like to burn them?

1357
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: So? I think that they have great uniforms. I think

1358
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 2: they're very classic, very iconic. I like the black over yellow.

1359
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 2: I like the white over yellow. I like the black

1360
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 2: over black when they wear that kind of color rust one.

1361
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 2: I do not like the bumblebee ones at all. Those

1362
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: should be retired and never be seen again. I think

1363
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: that agree, and I don't love. Also, for whatever reason,

1364
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: I don't like when they wear that yellow helmet alternate

1365
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: over the black jerseys. I don't like that either. To me,

1366
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 2: their traditional stuff, and then along with this all black one,

1367
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: it's perfect all they need.

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01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 3: I mean, it's right up there traditionally, like with the

1369
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: Giants unis where the Royal blues and sucks. I hate them.

1370
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: The the original ones are awful though, like just terrible. Yeah,

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01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: with the bum the Bumblebee, any of their modified ones

1372
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 2: have been truly just worse than what they already have.

1373
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 2: I am surprised though, they don't go all white more

1374
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: often like they did back in the day. They would

1375
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 2: go all white like in Terry Bradshaw's day, and that's

1376
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 2: a pretty good look for them as well, all white steel,

1377
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: curtain steel, Kurt. Yeah, it's good stuff, all right, good uniforms.

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01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite of all their uniforms. No, No,

1380
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 2: I think probably the black over They just I hate

1381
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: to say it, but that black or the yellow, they

1382
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: just look tough, like that's what I always want to

1383
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 2: be in white. I always hated when we were home

1384
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: and we would wear white and let the Steelers wear

1385
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: black hair. I was like, no, make them get out

1386
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: of the black. They do not look nearly as tough

1387
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: out out of the black tops. I agree, Yeah, no,

1388
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 2: I would all I would never let them choose to

1389
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 2: wear black in my stadium ever, correct, Yep, all right?

1390
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 2: Uh stadium elite not elite. I like it.

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01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 3: The Ketchup bottles are back, Baby heinz Field. Oh yeah,

1392
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 3: when it's.

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01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: Not heinz Field anymore. I don't think it's that akerchure.

1394
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: But they're back.

1395
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 3: I only right. I mean, let's see.

1396
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: Iconic giant ketchup bottle returns to Hinzgate on Allegandy Avenue.

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Speaker 2: It's coming back, they say.

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01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 3: I will say this, the people there are the nicest

1399
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 3: people that I work with in any stadium in the NFL.

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01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 3: Like it's Baltimore Stadium is awesome, probably the second best

1401
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 3: behind Minnesota. But the people in like in Pukerville, and yes,

1402
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 3: I like to trash the organization or trash the football team,

1403
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 3: but the people that are that don't play that behind

1404
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 3: the scenes are top notch.

1405
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 2: They're engineers.

1406
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 3: Like everything is plug and play. Like it's easy to

1407
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 3: get around that stadium. It's not difficult. I uh yeah,

1408
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 3: it's so here. There's its purpose. The unfortunate thing is

1409
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 3: every time we're there, it's like five degrees and it's

1410
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 3: ridiculously cold.

1411
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: So that the Hines has now a gate. They have

1412
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: the Hinds Gate, and they took the catchup bottle that

1413
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 2: used to be up for the red zone and now

1414
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: it's just over that gate. So you can take pictures

1415
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: of front of it, but it's one of the originals,

1416
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 2: so it won't be back in the stadium. It's on

1417
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: the outside of the stadium now over the Heindsge. I

1418
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: think it's a great stadium. I think the views down

1419
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: to the river are beautiful. I think the yellow seats

1420
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 2: look good, and I think that when that place gets

1421
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 2: rocking with Renegade, it's awesome. It's an awesome environment. Again,

1422
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 2: I think one of the biggest assuming the game plays

1423
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: out the way that it did, which maybe you never

1424
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: know what the full house if it does or not,

1425
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 2: but the fact that that playoff game did not get

1426
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 2: to happen in front of our fans, their fans, a

1427
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 2: full stadium. It stinks because I've always said I want

1428
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 2: to play a Monster game there. It would be so fun.

1429
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: And that was one and we won, and it didn't.

1430
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: We didn't get to have that joy or to share

1431
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: that joy with the people in Santa was like there's

1432
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 2: nobody there.

1433
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was, but I'll take it. Yeah, for sure,

1434
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 3: of course I'll take it, but I will take it. Yeah.

1435
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: Great road trip, yes or no, come on, easy drive.

1436
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely got. I might hate the football team, but the

1437
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 2: city's great. You go, you gotta get maybe a Primante

1438
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 2: Brothers Sandwich, Go.

1439
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 3: To the top of the hill, take the incline up. Yeah,

1440
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 3: great view, great bars seen at the top of the hill.

1441
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 3: At the top of the incline, Church Works Brewery is

1442
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 3: one of my favorites. They literally brew the beer like

1443
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 3: where the pulpit should be. It's great, great food, great atmosphere,

1444
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 3: really cool place, and P and C Park I think

1445
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 3: is one of the best baseball parks in America.

1446
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: I don't think I've eaten there since my first game

1447
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 2: on the road was Week one of twenty fourteen, and

1448
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 2: I went and whatever. I normally just drive in the

1449
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: day of for the Steelers game, So I don't know

1450
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: that i've actually, like, I haven't spent the night there

1451
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 2: for a while, but that one night we did have

1452
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 2: there was a ton of fun. It's it is. It's

1453
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 2: a cool city, it's a cool stadium, and it's got

1454
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 2: a lot of passion, and it's got a certain mystique

1455
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 2: to it. I think I think there's definitely a mystique

1456
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: in that building. Yes, it's it's pretty.

1457
01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 3: It's nothing.

1458
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 2: Our division, their stadium and the Raven stadiums are awesome.

1459
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 2: They really are, and they've been awesome. Not that there's

1460
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: any correlation, but it just is the way that it is.

1461
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: All right, player you want from their current raster, TJ. Watt, Yeah, yeah, TJ.

1462
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 2: Watt one side Mossy. On the other I think I

1463
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 2: think we're doing.

1464
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 3: Minco is a close second.

1465
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 2: Minca's good, Cam Hayward's good. A little older though Pickens,

1466
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I was a big Pickens guy. I

1467
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 2: know Pickens would be great, but I think T. J.

1468
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 3: Watt is easily the answer.

1469
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 2: All Right, this might be a hard one for you

1470
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 2: all time favorite player? Do you have an all time

1471
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 2: favorite Steeler?

1472
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 3: Bobby Brister getting his butt kicked? That's what I like.

1473
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 3: Bobby Brister my favorite all time player because he sucked.

1474
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 3: We enjoyed beating his face in.

1475
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to like think about it here. And

1476
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 2: the guy that I might say, I loved Kevin Green.

1477
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: I thought he was awesome. And then he went and

1478
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 2: wrestled for a while and like WCW, did a couple

1479
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 2: of matches, which I thought was cool. I liked Kevin Green.

1480
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 2: I always liked Joey Porter. They are pretty good. They

1481
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 2: are a good tandem together.

1482
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 3: I don't need Joey Porter Junior, by the way, No, no, no, no,

1483
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 3: definitely not.

1484
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 2: And then you know, I always kind of respected his

1485
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 2: game and I thought he was just good, and I

1486
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 2: think he would have been good in any era as

1487
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 2: hinz Ward and he seemed like a nice guy. I

1488
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 2: just hate him because he smiled all the time and

1489
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 2: then he would lay the lumber on people.

1490
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 3: I know, he was really good.

1491
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,839
Speaker 2: You know who else I liked from an old Steelers

1492
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: because I'm going back to before this is all before

1493
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 2: obviously on my time in Cleveland or with the Browns,

1494
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: or at least I think it was the guy he

1495
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 2: had the crazy face, Greg Lloyd.

1496
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 3: Huh, he was scary. He's a lunatic. He was terrifying.

1497
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 3: I think he's the guy that laid out Colt McCoy

1498
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:58,560
Speaker 3: that was highly illegal, terrifying and should have been penalized suspended.

1499
01:09:58,640 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 3: Find nothing.

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01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: Another Steeler that was definitely from the time when we

1501
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: were there was oh Man, James Harrison was terrifying.

1502
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 3: Maybe it was Harrison. Both those guys were cheap shots

1503
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 3: and nothing ever got called like cribs got laid out.

1504
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 3: Like Yeah, Greg Lloyd was a beast.

1505
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: The guy that I always thought was gonna be a

1506
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 2: megastar but obviously couldn't get out of his own way

1507
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: was Martavis Bryant, and that was from the modern era.

1508
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 3: He was so good.

1509
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 2: James Harrison, James Harrison was dirty. He's the one who,

1510
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, James Harrison. I think McCoy's dad was

1511
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 2: not pleased. James Harrison was terrifying. He's the same age

1512
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: as as I had forty four.

1513
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 3: I guess Harrison was suspended one game for Colt McCoy's.

1514
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 3: They had a lot.

1515
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 2: I don't play for that. Troy polam Olly, did you

1516
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: like her? Hate Troy polam malin?

1517
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't hate him, but he's like Ed

1518
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 3: Reid every type he turned out. He was making a

1519
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: play again against us. Yeah, yeah, hard to It's hard

1520
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 3: to like those guys.

1521
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: I will say. At the peak of his powers, Le'Veon

1522
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: bell watching him run the way that he run them

1523
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: where you kind of like hoop and stop and then go.

1524
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 2: Was it was wild to watch that live? He was, Yeah,

1525
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 2: he was. Also he was also a big time They've

1526
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,440
Speaker 2: had a lot of great players. It's a great organization

1527
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 2: that's been very successful. Playoff team, Contender, pretender, pretender, They're

1528
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 2: not going to the playoffs.

1529
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,520
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, until you can, until you can beat them,

1530
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 3: until you can take care of your business.

1531
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 2: They're always going to be a contenders. What happened last year, Yeah,

1532
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: for sure. Back, like, what were they last year?

1533
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 3: They almost made it in yeah, but didn't they start

1534
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 3: off like three and nine or something, three and three

1535
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 3: and seven, three and eight. It was something crazy, and

1536
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, they're dead and buried. Tomlin's going to

1537
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 3: be gone. They're actually going to make some changes now.

1538
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 3: They just rally the wagons and all they do is

1539
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 3: win in November and December. It sucks. I hate it.

1540
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 3: I'm just thanks, Yeah, way to go. Give me wait,

1541
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 3: you get yourself all fired up, dude. That's all they do,

1542
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 3: all right? So how can you You can't say their

1543
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 3: pretender because it doesn't matter with their I still don't

1544
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 3: think they're going to the playoffs.

1545
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 2: I can say that.

1546
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1547
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 2: Okay. So last year they were three and seven, yeah,

1548
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 2: through ten and finished.

1549
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 3: What was hurt for like six or seven? TJ.

1550
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 2: Watt's so good. Yeah. Then they came back, so they

1551
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 2: were three and seven. They beat the Colts four and seven,

1552
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 2: beat the Falcons five and seven, beat the Ravens five

1553
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: and eight, beat the Raiders seven and eight. H Oh,

1554
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 2: they lost the Ravens, I'm sorry, lost of the Ravens.

1555
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: Beat the Panthers, beat the Raiders, beat the Ravens and

1556
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: then beat the Browns. They won their final four games.

1557
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, eight fourteen. That's why they're always in it, because

1558
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 3: of who they are and their culture and their coaching stuff.

1559
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: So just to give a little perspective, though, we're talking

1560
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 2: playoffs ploffs. So they have not won a playoff game

1561
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 2: since two thy and sixteen, I believe.

1562
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 3: So.

1563
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,799
Speaker 2: They missed the playoffs in eighteen, they missed the playoffs

1564
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: in nineteen. They lose the wild card to US in

1565
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 2: twenty they were twelve and four that year then't remember that.

1566
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 2: Then they lose in the wild card of twenty one,

1567
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 2: and then last year they.

1568
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 3: Didn't make Kansas City because they beat us to get in.

1569
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 2: Yep, the last time, the last time the Steelers finished

1570
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: fourth in their division, finished last in their division. And

1571
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 2: he guesses.

1572
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 3: Where they finished last in their division, not a clue.

1573
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty eight, Well, it's about time that.

1574
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 2: Bubby Brister, Yeah, Merrill, Hodge and Lewis lips for the

1575
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 2: leaders on offense.

1576
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 3: Loved it. Love beating Bobby Brister's head in. It is great.

1577
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 3: You're gonna like this one too. This is gonna make

1578
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 3: you really happ We got a break because poison is coming.

1579
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 2: They have finished last in their division twice since nineteen

1580
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: sixty nine. Just disgusted by that stat And why are

1581
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 2: you smiling when you tell me that, because it's absurd.

1582
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 3: It is absurd, and they've already had like three coaches though, too.

1583
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nol Cower, Tomlin, Nol. That takes you back to

1584
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 2: so Knowle's first year. They go one and thirteen and

1585
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 2: finished fourth in their division. And in eighty eight Nole

1586
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 2: also went last in his division five and eleven. So

1587
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 2: Cower was never last since Cower or Tomlin have been there. Neither,

1588
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 2: and they've had three coaches since nineteen sixty nine. It's

1589
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 2: just an out. It's outrageous, outrageous, all right, when we

1590
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 2: come back, Brown Staff Rider, Anthony Poisel A little higher

1591
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 2: or lower coming your way next, Klem Brown's Daily brought

1592
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 2: you by bally Beck, Coming soon to Ohio.

1593
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: Cleveland. Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet, Coming

1594
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1595
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Clean Brown's Daily brought to you by

1596
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 2: bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio. Very happy now for

1597
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 2: a little better or worse with Anthony Poisel in studio

1598
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 2: along with me and Gibbe here ap First of all,

1599
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 2: how's everything going? Already had a wild weekend and you

1600
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 2: know now you got the draft. You still locked in

1601
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 2: after how's the brain working? How are we doing?

1602
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 8: Absolutely locked in. It definitely took a day after Monday.

1603
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 8: This was it was back to back bachelor party weekends

1604
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 8: for me. And there was also the first two bachelor

1605
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 8: parties I've ever been a part of. So you know,

1606
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 8: this is what the mid twenties are about. So I

1607
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 8: just had them. I figured better back to back, Like

1608
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 8: I was okay with having back to back. Yeah, yeah,

1609
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 8: you just you know, you have fun, but you get

1610
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 8: it out of the way quickly. You regroup in time

1611
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 8: for for a pretty big weekend here, So stone it

1612
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 8: out of the weed jet as far as having weekend plans.

1613
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 8: But I'm alive and my brain is functioning well, so

1614
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 8: we're good.

1615
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 2: High level ap young the youth, the ability to bounce back.

1616
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 3: Love to hear it. I love to hear it. I'm

1617
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 3: kind of disappointed that you bounced back so quickly.

1618
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 8: That's what that's the benefit of being that's the benefit

1619
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 8: of being twenty four gives just this was you. It

1620
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 8: might might take a might take a few more days

1621
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 8: at least throw him out.

1622
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 3: Of the studio. Twenty four boise L. The answer to

1623
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 3: the hangover is just to keep going. Oh god, well,

1624
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,440
Speaker 3: it's not to recover, it's state hydrated.

1625
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 6: I was in that.

1626
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 8: I was in that mode for I was in that

1627
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 8: mode for the weekend.

1628
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 2: But a lot of water.

1629
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 3: Right now, he's at work.

1630
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 2: This is a place of business, Gibbet, we're trying to work.

1631
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 2: We got the draft this week two days. Let's go

1632
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 2: pretty sure that hasn't stopped a couple of people in

1633
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 2: this office. Actually, I don't even know how to respond.

1634
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: I know he's not talking about me.

1635
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 3: Nope, not talking about anybody in this in this area.

1636
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 8: Definitely not me.

1637
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 3: We'll move on. It's higher or lower presented by our

1638
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 3: friends at the Ohio Lottery. I don't know what is

1639
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 3: going on, but I'm looking at the one camera angle

1640
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 3: of you guys.

1641
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 8: It's like way over.

1642
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 3: There, it's pointing. Now you're on number two.

1643
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 8: I noticed it wasn't No, this one wasn't working. Well

1644
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 8: we're good now.

1645
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, we're good, but the camera lighting is.

1646
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 3: Not so great.

1647
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 2: Not quite sure what this is electric radio, you're producing,

1648
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 2: you're talking about things you can see, and then now

1649
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 2: we're not even having our.

1650
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't know what's going on. Drew Yellowstone

1651
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 3: got him in here. Uh, compliments of our good friend

1652
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,839
Speaker 3: Cody Benjamin at CBS sports dot com. This guy ranking

1653
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 3: all the quarterbacks first, the quarterbacks in the AFC, and

1654
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 3: then the quarterback in the NFC first up, as would

1655
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 3: play higher and lower, presented by our great friends at

1656
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:12,440
Speaker 3: the Ohio Lottery. Patrick Mahomes is number one. Number two

1657
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 3: is Joe Burrow. Number three is Josh Allen? Higher lower,

1658
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 3: just right for any of those three pois out.

1659
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 8: Uh, yeah, I don't have any complaints here. I think

1660
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 8: it's worth saying that at number four, if you don't

1661
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 8: mind giving number four is justin Herbert. I think you

1662
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 8: can make an argument that.

1663
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 3: Herbert belongs ed Libbing.

1664
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I think Herbert there, you can make an

1665
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 8: argument that Herbert belongs over Josh Allen. At least that's

1666
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 8: what I thought when I first looked at the list.

1667
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 8: But but I thought about a little bit more. I think,

1668
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 8: you know, Josh Allen's got a rushing ability that Herbert

1669
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 8: doesn't have. And you know, Alan's a little bit more wild,

1670
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,560
Speaker 8: but he had a more productive year last year, and

1671
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 8: I know a large reason for that, at least was

1672
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 8: that he didn't have a receiving core that was hurt

1673
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 8: like Herbert does. But I think I'm okay with where

1674
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 8: we're at right now. But I will listen to an

1675
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 8: argument if Z has one that.

1676
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 2: Josh I was even gonna bump Josh Allen up to

1677
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: two and Burrow down to three.

1678
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 8: You think so?

1679
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 2: Allen last year sixty three percent completions, two hundred and

1680
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 2: eighty three yards, thirty five touchdowns, fourteen picks. Everybody said

1681
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,719
Speaker 2: he throws all these picks, fourteen picks, and he ran

1682
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 2: for almost eight hundred yards and seven touchdowns.

1683
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 3: I mean, pretty pretty. That seems pretty good to me.

1684
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:34,839
Speaker 2: Burrow very similar passing numbers, obviously a higher completion percentage,

1685
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 2: that's not surprising. Sixty eight percent, forty four to seventy five,

1686
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 2: thirty five touchdowns, twelve picks, so very similar to the

1687
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 2: quarterback ratings were very similar. And then when it comes

1688
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 2: to rushing, he is a good athlete, but two fifty

1689
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 2: seven is a career high for him running. I think

1690
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 2: Alan Allen's pretty dangerous. Pretty electric.

1691
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 8: I mean, there's a lot of value and obviously in

1692
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 8: having a dual threat quarterback, so I can listen to

1693
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 8: that as well. But Burrow's also the AFC Championship.

1694
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 2: FYI in the MVP voting last year, wouldn't you know

1695
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: Alan third Borough fourthsh that's pretty tough night drop next higher,

1696
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 2: Coore lower.

1697
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,839
Speaker 3: As we mentioned justin Herbert is number four. Number five

1698
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 3: is Trevor Lawrence Zigura higher lower, just right down yeas

1699
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 3: quarterback down.

1700
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 2: I'm a big Trevor Lawrence guy. I think he is

1701
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 2: a stud and a star in the making, and yes,

1702
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 2: market improvement last year, especially as the season went on.

1703
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 2: I thought that he played very, very well finished last

1704
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,799
Speaker 2: year sixty six percent completions, four thirteen yards, twenty five touchdowns,

1705
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 2: eight picks. But I'm not ready right now to put

1706
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 2: him over Rogers. I'm not ready right now me personally

1707
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: to put him over even Lamar as an MVP, and

1708
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to put him over our guy. I

1709
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 2: put him, I think he's he's I would drop him

1710
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 2: to eighth knowing that he is like absolutely on the

1711
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: ascending trajectory. He won't be eighth next year. Put it

1712
01:20:58,880 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 2: that way.

1713
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree. I would rank Aaron Rodgers higher. I'd

1714
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 8: put him at number five, I would put Lamar Jackson

1715
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 8: at number six, and I would put Trevor Lawrence at seven.

1716
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 8: However he did, it wasn't immediate last year for him.

1717
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 8: He took until the second half of the year. I

1718
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 8: think for him to kind of really who of DeShawn? Yes,

1719
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 8: I'm putting because do you know why, Z? Because is

1720
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 8: this JJ. I think eventually DeShawn can get up. But

1721
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 8: DeShawn when you compare how DeShawn played in six games

1722
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 8: last year versus how Trevor Lawrence played, Trevor Lawrence was

1723
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 8: the better quarterback.

1724
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 3: Has Trevor Lawrence ever led the league in passing?

1725
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 8: No, but that was the high sch that was three

1726
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 8: years ago. That was two years ago. We need this, We.

1727
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 2: Need to see makes a point he's gonna hate. We

1728
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 2: need to see right now for this season. Hold on,

1729
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 2: I'm ask okay, well, let me create different way. Our

1730
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 2: roster is exactly the same. Age, doesn't matter. It's for

1731
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 2: one year. For this year, you would rather have Trevor

1732
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 2: Lawrence and Deshaun Watson.

1733
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 8: Yes, I would because it's close, Zee, It's close. But

1734
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 8: I'm going off of what we've seen over the last

1735
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 8: three years, go for it. I'm going we're going to

1736
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 8: go hand this. Look, I'm not saying that I don't

1737
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:06,799
Speaker 8: think that Shawn is not going to be a good quarterback.

1738
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 3: You know what he said about you.

1739
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 8: I'm not saying I don't think that Shawn is not

1740
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 8: going to be a good quarterback this year. I'm saying,

1741
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 8: based on what we've seen over the last recently, over

1742
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 8: the last three years, Trevor, I'm just.

1743
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 3: The show last three years.

1744
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 2: Two years ago, Trevor Orren's fifty nine percent completions, twelve touchdowns, seventeen.

1745
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 8: Pis under Urban Meyer for ten games.

1746
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: See, it's not like Deshaun Watson had like the greatest

1747
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 2: in the history of the game.

1748
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 8: This shouldn't be that crazy. And I'm not saying there's

1749
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 8: a huge gap. I'm not saying there's a huge.

1750
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 3: JD Man, you're angling he's angling to get some of

1751
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:37,719
Speaker 3: that con money.

1752
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 2: He's like, oh get it, he's on these golf I

1753
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 2: need to live somewhere where there's more golfing available to me.

1754
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 2: Jacksonville here is lovely this time of year.

1755
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 3: Pit of America. We go back there for a preseason game.

1756
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be really angry.

1757
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 4: Not me.

1758
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 3: I ride. I'm in. I'm in. I believe in our quarterback.

1759
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 8: And I'm not saying I don't either.

1760
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 3: What No, I'm not say you don't believe as much

1761
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 3: as Trevor Lawrence.

1762
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: You didn't say that. He said, I do not believe.

1763
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 2: I want. You said, today's team everything being the same.

1764
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 2: You want Trevor Lawrence or Shaw Watson.

1765
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 3: You said, that's okay. You gotta show, you gotta show

1766
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 3: the man. I'm gonna show me state myself so I

1767
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 3: can understand what he said.

1768
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 8: I can't go. I can't do these rankings off of

1769
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 8: three what happened three years ago, which.

1770
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 2: Is you can do them off of what you believe

1771
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 2: in your heart, what you've seen with your.

1772
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 3: Eyes, the way that this don't worry forward. I've watched

1773
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:42,560
Speaker 3: the tape.

1774
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 2: Should throw against the Commis last year outrageous for a half,

1775
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 2: made a great made some great throw.

1776
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 3: Bringing that example up, Why for a half it was

1777
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 3: not so great? Then for a half it was great.

1778
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 3: It was really good. Oh it was great, but it

1779
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 3: was really good.

1780
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is now, when if we win the

1781
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year and Seawan Watson Super Bowl MVP.

1782
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1783
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 8: If AP gets you can totally I don't know. If

1784
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 8: that happens, you can totally rub it in my face.

1785
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 2: If I don't even get to go on the float,

1786
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 2: I'll lob be for you.

1787
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 3: I will.

1788
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: I'll say he's coming off of back to back Bacheter

1789
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 2: part of the weekends. Maybe he thought he's functioning at

1790
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:23,600
Speaker 2: a higher level than he than he was.

1791
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, real quick means a lot your thoughts

1792
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 3: they back the back nine before we get to the

1793
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 3: nfcause I want to go to the NFC real quick.

1794
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 3: Just one thought from each of you two oh was nine,

1795
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 3: Jimmy g ten, Russell Wilson eleven, Kenny pick At twelve,

1796
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:44,959
Speaker 3: Tannehill thirteen, Mac Jones fourteen, Gardner Minshew fifteen, Davis Mills sixteen,

1797
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 3: poison one thought.

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01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 8: My thought is that are there? And I will admittedly

1799
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 8: say I took this from I saw a tweet yesterday

1800
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 8: from Darren Gant, who is in my role with the Panthers.

1801
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 8: He said he asked, are there seven good quarterbacks in

1802
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 8: the NFC. I think the answer definitively is no, there's not.

1803
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 8: The NFC is even more so, waste several steps below

1804
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 8: the a f C. I don't know if there's seven

1805
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 8: good quarterbacks in the FC.

1806
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 3: In the NFC.

1807
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 9: Yes, he just asked no questions. I thought you're talking

1808
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 9: about about the a f C went through head quarterbacks

1809
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 9: daydream about treubor Laura.

1810
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: He's not paying attention.

1811
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 8: What's going on here?

1812
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 3: This is great, is outrageous.

1813
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 2: I was thinking about if you have one thought quarterbacks

1814
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:34,799
Speaker 2: nine through sixteen in the af.

1815
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 3: C, do you have?

1816
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 8: My thought is Russell Wilson's too high on this list

1817
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 8: at number eleven after last year.

1818
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 3: He was just flamethrower.

1819
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:48,719
Speaker 2: If Russell Wilson with if Russell Wilson with Sean Payton

1820
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 2: is not markedly better like we've seen Russell Wilson because

1821
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 2: he was good two years ago, he was excellent. I

1822
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 2: think there was bad coaching there was that he was

1823
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 2: a victim of that. I think Russell Wilson.

1824
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 8: Again still, I still got to see it, though, I

1825
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 8: gotta see it.

1826
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 2: You have seen it. The guy's won super Bowl.

1827
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I agree with him right now here,

1828
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 3: and now you don't think with Sean Payton, Russell Wilson

1829
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 3: is gonna be more like Russell Wilson.

1830
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 8: I think it could be, but we haven't seen it yet,

1831
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 8: actually actually seen I.

1832
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 3: Need him to be what he was last year, which

1833
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 3: was hot garbage. Have you seen Jimmy Garoppolo with the Raiders? Huh?

1834
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 8: I'm saying I think both those guys should.

1835
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 2: Be lower than and who do you want to go

1836
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: ahead of them?

1837
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 3: Can you Pickett?

1838
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 8: Yes?

1839
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 5: Oh?

1840
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 8: Is that really that surprising?

1841
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 3: Picket?

1842
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 8: Gibbs? Do you agree with me or no?

1843
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 3: Now you're getting an anthony from me?

1844
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 2: Okay? Can Russell seven touchdown passes and nine picks on

1845
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 2: the season, Kenny Pigott? I, but what did we see

1846
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 2: from Russell Wilson last year? Russell Wilson wasn't great last year,

1847
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 2: But it's funny as watch when I tell you a stats,

1848
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 2: it's better than you would think.

1849
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 3: Even though you're going to get to the n quarterbacks.

1850
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,759
Speaker 2: You get heard my thought, he's already yeah, he's already

1851
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 2: given you, Darren Well, he's given you Darren Gants thought

1852
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 2: on it. Last year, Russell Wilson sixty percent completion, thirty

1853
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 2: five hundred yard, sixteen touchdowns, eleven picks. It still hat

1854
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 2: a better quarterback rating than watch them we call it,

1855
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,719
Speaker 2: but I mean the two years prior than that, sixty

1856
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: five touchdowns, nineteen picks, Like, he's going to be fine,

1857
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 2: He's gonna be fine.

1858
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 3: I don't think he's lost.

1859
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 8: I wouldn't say he's going to be fine. If you guys,

1860
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 8: if you guys want to you guys want to arrest

1861
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 8: with me over like the rankings on those, that's fine,

1862
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 8: I understand, But I don't know if you could say

1863
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 8: Russell Wilson is going to be fine. We haven't seen

1864
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 8: it yet, ze, Come on.

1865
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 3: We haven't seen it yet.

1866
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 2: What do you mean, not with not seen him have

1867
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 2: one down year with a bad significant What would you

1868
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 2: have said? So, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,

1869
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 2: hold on, so hold on, hold on. So would you

1870
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 2: have said, if this list was made prior to the

1871
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two season, would you had Trevor Lawrence at

1872
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 2: sixteen because we haven't seen it yet and he was dreadful.

1873
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 8: I don't know if I had him at sixteen, but

1874
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 8: it obviously would have been a lot lower. Yes, And

1875
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 8: now we've seen it and now we can rank him higher.

1876
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 8: Is that that crazy to wrap your head around?

1877
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 2: It is hard for me because basically, I think what

1878
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 2: I feel like you're saying is why like this year

1879
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 2: is just a repeat of last year. That's not true

1880
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 2: at all. There's gonna be so much change. One of

1881
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 2: the things you have to factor into the changes are

1882
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 2: the player, the environment, and I think it's a much

1883
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,560
Speaker 2: different environment anything you'll have FCQBS.

1884
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,560
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Bishop's going to be here to give you the

1885
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 3: business too. Oh my god, wait till you.

1886
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 2: Here's about the new coast.

1887
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 3: Of jj D. I like it. You stand eight, stand Pat,

1888
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 3: I'm still for you.

1889
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 2: Bring it back tomorrow. We need more of this, Yes,

1890
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,679
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1891
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Speaker 2: We now have a Russell Wilson Kenny Pickett twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: on his way.

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Speaker 2: there is the d line coach, Ben Bloom strolling around.

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Speaker 2: Luminaries, big time folks.

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Speaker 2: Thank you again to Brook Pryor, thanks to Dane Brugler,

1909
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