1 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: All right, wellcome in Lake Kick is Live. It is 2 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: Sunday Night, December thirteenth, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty 3 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: Live chats jam packed. We've got a jam packed show tonight. 4 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Gus Malzon is out at Auburn. Tom Herman has survived 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: for the time being at Texas. Also, Florida just kind 6 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: of imploded on itself like a dying star last night 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: against LSU, And believe me, we've got a lot to 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: say about that game from multiple angles. North Carolina committed 9 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: essentially what would be described as legal assault against Miami 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: for the better part of four hours yesterday afternoon. We 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: got a lot of Week fifteen takeaways in general, so 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: many hit a number of games tonight, got so many 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: different angles, got so many different directions that we need 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: to go, and we've got a best bet. Wasn't our 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: best day yesterday? Yes By and large, yesterday just kind 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: of we wish we could make it disappear. However, today 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: is so jam packed that we can kind of gloss 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: over that. And it's been a really good season for 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: us anyway, so we can gloss over that. I you know, 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: I was thinking as I was driving in what can 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: you promise really, you can't promise many things on this show. 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: I can promise, well, unless technical difficulties get in the way, 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: that director Colin and I are going to be here Sunday, 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: Tuesday Thursday night for you eightiest from seventh Central. We 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: can promise we're going to try and put together a 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: good show. But you know, I was looking around Twitter 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: yesterday and a lot of you noticed what I noticed. 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: There's no need to give any name by credibility on 29 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: this show, but you noticed a lot of folks. We're 30 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: highlighting some within our world, within our industry that seemed 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: to just flat out hate what they get to do 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: for a living, which is the way I look at 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: it getting to do it. So here's what I realized. 34 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: We can promise you we love college football and we 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: don't insult your intelligence and saying that either like we 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: genuinely love it. Kind of freaked out that we get 37 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: paid a little bit of money to talk about what 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: we'd be talking about for free anyway. You know, if 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't sitting here and I wasn't work at twenty 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: four to seven, I probably eat barbecue somewhere down in Georgia, 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: still talking about what I'm going to talk about tonight. Anyways, 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: just now I get to have some fancy graphics and 43 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: nice little colorful monitor behind me in a microphone. But 44 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: that's about it. That's the only difference. So we love 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: it here. So if you're of the mentality which most 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: of you are, as far as I can tell, that 47 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: you kind of just love this sport and really are 48 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: tired of getting slapped in the face theoretically or figuratively 49 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: by people who you can tell cover it but hate 50 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: it and really wish they were anywhere else. This is 51 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: the place for you. And if that doesn't appeal to you, 52 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: that doesn't appeal to you. Also, before we dive in, 53 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: we're about to do a jampack show. So before we 54 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: dive in, took about a week's break last week, had 55 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: a busy week, and to be honest with you, got 56 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: a busy week coming up this week. However, I am 57 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: opening slots back up. Anybody out there who is interested 58 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: in the least bit in the sports media industry. You 59 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: want to start a YouTube channel, podcast, whatever, any road 60 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: you want to go down. You just don't quite know 61 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: how to put pen to paper. And maybe you got 62 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 1: the dreams, but you can't necessarily land them. Well, we'll talk, 63 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: so email me Josh paid seven zero six at gmail 64 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: dot com or on Twitter at late kick Josh. There's 65 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: are one on one zoom sessions. They've been very, very 66 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: beneficial for yours truly as well as well hopefully a 67 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: lot of the folks that I've talked to. I've done 68 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: several dozen of those at this point. They've been really, 69 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: really fun. Not a fun start to the show tonight though, 70 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: but one that we've got to do. So I thought 71 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: that we were going to be leading the show tonight 72 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: with Florida LSU. That's what I thought. Then about two 73 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: o'clock the news comes down Auburn has fired Gus Malzon 74 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: after eight seasons as head coach on the Planes. Final 75 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: record here sixty eight and thirty five overall thirty nine 76 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: and twenty seven in sec play. You heard a lot 77 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: of you noticed because you DMed me. You heard my 78 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: tone change on this about last week, Brown this time 79 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: last week, and the reason my tone change just calls 80 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: up until that point. I told you, I'll be very surprised. 81 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: I think I may have even used the word shocked. 82 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: I'll be shocked if they make a move on him. 83 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't messing with you. I was going to be shocked, 84 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: and I'm not shocked today, only because the tone change 85 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: last week was due to some people pretty close to 86 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: this situation saying, Hey, this is not hypothetical, this is 87 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: not down the road like this is now. There is 88 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: a real good chance that he's gonna lose his job. 89 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: I still was in the need to see it to 90 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: believe it, camp, but I kind of changed my tone, 91 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: and some of you felt that if you watch every show, 92 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: listen to every show, you pay attention. So a lot 93 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: of you were asking me behind the scenes, you were 94 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: dming me, email me, Hey, why do you sound so 95 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: different all of a sudden, Do you know something? Oh? 96 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know anything per se. I knew people who 97 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 1: knew things per se, and they were they were changing 98 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: their tone, so I did so accordingly. I think Gus 99 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: Mason's pretty surprised too. Sometimes you think, oh, if I 100 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: could only talk to the head coach whose job is 101 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: on the line, I could have all the information. A 102 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: lot of times they're just as in the dark as 103 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: you are, and maybe I am. Obviously they don't find 104 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: out until the guillotine comes down. That was a graphic, 105 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: but necessary, and so I think Gus Mauson thought that 106 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: he was safe this year. Now you're never fully safe 107 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: at all, and everyone knows that. He knows that all 108 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: too well, and he's played those a couple of times 109 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: into being parlayed into contract extensions, so he knows how 110 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: to play the game, and he's got the right folks 111 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: representing him. I think he's kind of surprised at this, shocked, 112 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: maybe not kind of surprised. But I'll tell you what 113 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: I was told last week. Tweeted this out earlier. I'll 114 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: reiterate it for those of you who aren't following me 115 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: on there at Lake Kick Josh. By the way, I 116 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: was told by the same folks who indicated that the 117 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: wheels were in motion here, maybe irreversibly so, And as 118 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: it turns out, that was right. I was told by 119 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: those same folks, if they make a move, and it 120 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: was a big if at the time, if they make 121 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: a move, you can rest assured it means they think 122 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: they already have the replacement locked up. Now, a couple 123 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: of things could be true, Okay, because I don't know 124 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: where this stands right now, A couple of things could 125 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: be true. They could feel that way, and they could 126 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: also get burned because unless you've got pen on paper, 127 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: I mean, unless you've got him on the jet and 128 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: they're flying down to Auburn, Alabama, well nothing's really locked up. 129 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: And a lot of times these kinds of situations are 130 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: used for the big L word. It's very important. You 131 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: don't get to enjoy it very often, but when you 132 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: get leverage, you use it, and some folks even go 133 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: as far as to exploit it for their own personal game. 134 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: How dare they? You're looking at one of them on 135 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: the bottom of your screen right now, by the way, 136 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily know that there's anything locked up, 137 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: and can tell you there are some people who believe 138 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: that there are things locked up. However, it would be 139 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: very irresponsible of us to just throw around names here 140 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: because I don't believe that there is any name that's 141 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: been locked up. So we're gonna have some time to 142 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: talk about that, and I'll do so in just a second, actually, 143 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: but I want to ask you something because let's talk 144 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: about mals On for just a second. Had a lot 145 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: of takes on him today from a lot of different angles. 146 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: So I want to ask you whether you're an Auburn fan, 147 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: whether you went to Auburn, whether you went to Kennesas State, 148 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: and it's just up the road, and so you just 149 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: pull for him. I don't care if you're a Michigan 150 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: State fan and you've never even been to the state 151 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: of Alabama. Everybody, I want you to ask yourself this question. 152 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: You watch college football, You've seen this dude, You've got 153 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: an opinion of him. He's been around a long time. 154 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: Do you think he failed at Auburn? You think he's 155 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: a failure. Because I asked that question to some folks 156 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: today and I was very surprised at the not only 157 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: the differences in the responses, but how strongly opinionated everyone 158 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: was in their response. There were very few fence writers here. 159 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: In other words, now I'm gonna give you my opinion. 160 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: I got my own head coach power ratings. Malson is 161 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: a top twenty head coach currently like today, he got fired. 162 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: He is currently in my top twenty of head coaching 163 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: power ratings in all of FBS, so all of major 164 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: college football. He's in my top twenty. He just got fired. 165 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: So obviously I'm not one who looks at him as 166 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: a failure. A lot of people do look at him 167 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: as a failure, and I'm just gonna give you again 168 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: my humble opinion here. I think that displays an utter 169 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: lack of grasp of how insanely hard the job at 170 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: Auburn is. It is the pound for pound I've told 171 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: you before, hardest job in America. It's not harder than 172 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: Kent State. But yet Kent State, they don't expect titles there. 173 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: They expect you to contend At Auburn. At Kent State, 174 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: you're not parked down the road from the greatest head 175 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: coach in the history of college football. You are at Auburn. 176 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: At Auburn, you're also recruiting heads up against four of 177 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: the biggest six or seven recruiting powers in America right 178 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: now in Bama, Georgia, LSU, and Texas A and M. 179 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: So unless you're matching them. You know, at the start 180 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: of every year, Malzoon's known this for a while, At 181 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: the start of every year, he's going to be at 182 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: a roster disadvantage against about a third of his schedule. Now, 183 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: you could look at me and you could say, well, 184 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: they should have recruited better. Okay, I'll grant you that. 185 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's impossible, but what I want you 186 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: to understand is now, I want to say this very slowly. 187 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: There are some coaches out there that you may consider 188 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: not top twenty, not top twenty five, but top ten 189 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: who would have long since wilted under what that guy 190 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 1: was having to deal with year and in, year out. You 191 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: don't believe that, and I know you don't. That's fine, 192 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: but some of your darlings out there that are rated 193 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: solidly top ten would have wilted under the Auburn spotlight. 194 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: The Auburn spotlight is unique for several reasons, unto any 195 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: in the sport. That's not meant in a pejorative context. 196 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes it can be. I think it's a great place, 197 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: but it's a very unique place. There is no other 198 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: coulture like that, so it's got its own little world 199 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: down there. Grew up very close to it, intimately familiar 200 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: with it. You know my stance on expectations and standards, 201 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: if you've watched this show any length of time. I'm 202 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: not that guy that a lot of other folks out 203 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: there are who make fun of fans when they get 204 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: mad when their team doesn't win. I appreciate the passion. 205 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate the expectation. And I've told you before and 206 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: for those of you who are new, I'll tell you again. 207 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes you buy yourself the ability and the freedom to 208 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: have sky high expectation. The way you buy those things 209 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: are really twofold. You can buy them obviously financially, and 210 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: then you can buy them through emotion when you have 211 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: financially and emotionally invested in mass an entire culture of 212 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: fan base. In other words, when you have invested top 213 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: dollar and you have emotionally invested to the best of 214 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: your abilities. It's only right in any other walk of 215 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: life if you invest in an a level you want 216 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: a level returns. That's just common sense. Anyone who's gone 217 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: through high school economics class understands that. But here's a 218 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: little bit different world that we're living in college football, 219 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,479 Speaker 1: and that you got to ask what's feasible, what's realistic 220 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: to expect. It's okay if you've invested and you say 221 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: we're I got a buddy across the street who's a 222 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: Georgia grad, and I do everything that they do. He 223 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: tells me what they donate, and he tells me what 224 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: they're asked to do. And what they're asked to give, 225 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: and and my Bama buddy the same way, and I 226 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: do what they do. I want returns like they have 227 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: completely natural to feel that way. I'm not going to 228 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna dump on you because you feel that way. 229 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: What is feasible given the current reality, Because that's the 230 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: question everyone in the Auburn world's asking themselves right now. 231 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: There are a lot of opinions out there, and a 232 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: lot of the opinions involve that man, Gus mal Is, 233 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm not living up to it. So I want you 234 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: to keep in mind when I tell you this is 235 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: the hardest job in America. I don't mean any I 236 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: don't mean it's impossible to succeed there. I just mean 237 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: the hurdles are very high. And as we're denigrating Gus 238 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: maus on not all of you, but some of you, 239 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: I also want you to know some things that aren't 240 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: readily appearing. If you just turn on CBS or ESPN 241 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: for three and a half hours on a Saturday, that 242 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: guy lagged resource wise significantly in some cases behind all 243 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: those big rivals that I was talking about. Auburn has 244 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: put lipstick on a lot of pigs down there, and 245 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: behind the scenes they are woefully inept. There is some 246 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: catch up happening, but they still got a long way 247 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: to go. In some other areas, you have got a 248 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: taj Mahal in Tuscaloosa, and you've got Georgia, who has 249 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: separated themselves trying to keep up with Alabama LSUS the same, Texas, 250 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: A and M is the same. They haven't kept up 251 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: at Auburn. That's just the painful reality. The folks there 252 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: know it. The folks closer closer you get to the program, 253 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: the more intimately familiar they are with that reality. Here 254 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: was the problem. It's very layered. It's never as easy 255 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: as easy good enough or is he not good enough? 256 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: You have got and have had for quite a while. 257 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: Some big money folks around the Auburn program who were 258 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: not coming off their wallet until Gus Malzan was out 259 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: of there. They did not view him as the long 260 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: term answer to their program. I'm not one to tell 261 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: anyone how else to spend their money. I mean, it 262 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what I think anyway, you've earned it over 263 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: the years that you're right to spend it however you 264 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: want to. And so a lot of the investment that 265 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: was needed was kind of held hostage. And this was 266 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: one of the terms, Hey, you want seven numbers on 267 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: this check instead of just mid sixes every year. Well, 268 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: you put the right guy in the driver's seat, and 269 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: then maybe we'll revisit that. COVID or no COVID, maybe 270 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: we'll revisit that. So expectations are fine, but now what 271 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: are we going to get here? What's the reality? What's feasible? 272 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: And then who's out there that is a definitive upgrade? 273 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: Why didn't he succeed? In other words, so what has 274 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: to happen? Why weren't he Why weren't they winning enough 275 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: under Gus Malson? Well, number one, they never got quarterback 276 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: figured out Gus Malson. The only times, and this has 277 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: been well chronicled by this point, the only times he's 278 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: really one big down there. It was with transfer quarterbacks. 279 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: He had to go get someone else's and it was 280 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: an already made product, or hopefully close to our already 281 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: made and then he brought him in and he won. 282 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: Think Nick Marshall, Think Jared Stidham, you get the idea. 283 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: There was never a homegrown product. The closest they came 284 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: to that was well, the current product bo Nix. I mean, 285 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: that's the closest that they came to it. And I 286 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: think that there have been very mixed results, to say 287 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: the least on the field from him his first two years. 288 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: Number two, they never recruited well enough. Now, this is 289 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: where when you start to attract another coach. This is 290 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: where you got to try and think differently, Try and 291 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: think on a different plane than just an observer. Think 292 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: about yourself as a prime candidate for the Auburn job, 293 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: and think about what I just said. I just told 294 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: you they hadn't recruited well enough. Well, if I'm a 295 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: candidate for this job, I'll just go pull up twenty 296 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: four to seven sports dot comrade quick, and I'll say, 297 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: what in the world they were number eight that year, 298 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: number ten, number twelve, number nine. It looks like they 299 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: recruit around a top ten level every year. That's right, 300 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: and it's not good enough. You want to look at 301 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: the teams ahead of them. Bama's up there every year, 302 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: George's up there every year. LSU is going to be 303 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: up there every year. Texas A and M's going to 304 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: be up there every year. You got to play them 305 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: every year. This is the only program in the United 306 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: States of America that has the unenviable task of facing Georgia, Alabama, LSU, 307 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: and Texas A and M every single year. And so 308 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: if you're not recruiting at a top five level perennially, 309 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: and you're not just dominating the transfer A market, or 310 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: hopefully both of those things, chances are you're gonna find 311 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: yourself at a roster disadvantage two, three, or maybe four 312 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: times per year. It's not sustainable to content at a 313 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: double digit win level. That's where they want you floating. 314 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: They want you capable of winning ten minimum every single year. 315 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: That's what they want you capable of. Malzon couldn't do it, 316 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: doesn't It doesn't really take a rocket scientist to figure 317 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: out why he couldn't do it. But he couldn't do it. 318 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: And here's the other thing that they got to do. Okay, 319 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: they are playing the long game here, And I want 320 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: to tell you what I mean by that. Immediately, you 321 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: got to come into Auburn, you got to compete against 322 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: Nick Saban. But more and more when people are making 323 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: coaching changes in the SEC. Now, whether this is accurate 324 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: or not, I don't know, because I can't know what 325 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: Nick Saban's thinking, a lot of folks down here are 326 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: positioning themselves for a post Nick Saban. Sec I'm of 327 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: the opinion that's a little ways off still, but a 328 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: lot of folks down here are positioning themselves for that. Nonetheless, 329 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: So the next Auburn higher, yeah, he's got to initially 330 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: go up against Nick Saban. But the folks at Auburn, 331 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: understandably so are hoping that they're positioning themselves where we 332 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: get the right guy in, we overturn the culture, we 333 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: get everything in place, the wiring is fit the way 334 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: we want it to. And then when Nick Saban's no 335 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: longer at Alabama, unless they go full Ryan Day in 336 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: finding his replacement, unless they go full Lincoln Riley and 337 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: finding his replacement, then we'll be positioned to surge in 338 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: the SEC West. That's the thinking right now. But remember 339 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: this roster needs a lot of work. By the very 340 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: nature of what we just talked about was lacking under 341 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: MOUs On certainly wasn't perfect. I don't agree with the move, 342 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: but he had a lot of merit also had a 343 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: lot of problems there, So I understand the move, even 344 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: if I don't necessarily put my stamp of approval on it. 345 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: Roster needs work, and also this upcoming class is very poor, 346 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: so there's no immediate help on the way. So I 347 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: just want to I want to, I want to whisper 348 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: that patience at that word that no one likes to 349 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: hear down there, Especially if you think you're paying enough 350 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: to where you buy yourself out of having to wait. 351 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: Can't do it. You can't microwave the process that it 352 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: takes to overturn a program and then compete with the 353 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: best in the business. Maybe in the history of the sport. 354 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: There is no shortcut to that doesn't matter if you 355 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: pay the next candidate twenty million dollars. You don't buy 356 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: your way out of having to play that longer game. Candidates, 357 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: I've heard Mario Christobal's name out there. I've seen Hugh 358 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: Freeze's name out there. I just want to tell you, 359 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how large the contingent is, but I 360 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: just want to tell you there's a name that's not 361 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: totally off the radar, but it is kind of out 362 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: left field right now. Now. I don't know how realistic 363 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: it is. There are some people around the Auburn program 364 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: who have put a bullseye on James Franklin. James Franklin 365 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: feels like a fit at Auburn. To me, I have 366 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: no clue how obtainable or not he is. I have 367 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: no clue if he has a desire to leave Penn State. 368 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: I don't know. All I can confidently confirm to you 369 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: is there are some people with a little bit of sway, 370 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: at least around Auburn who would love to see that happen. 371 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: We'll see where this goes. But like I told you, 372 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: the sentiment there as of last week from people who 373 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: would know is if they do make the move, and 374 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: obviously they have since then, they're pretty confident that they've 375 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: got their guy locked up. Who is the guy? Well, 376 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: I guess that's what this week will be for us 377 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: to talk about. Let's talk about some games yesterday. One 378 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: in particular, Oh boy, LSU just outright stunned Florida in 379 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: the swamp last night thirty seven thirty four for those 380 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: of you who couldn't see it due to fog, twenty 381 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: three point favorite. Some are arguing this is one of 382 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: the biggest upsets in the history of the SEC in 383 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: conference play, considering what was on the line. I'm not 384 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: so sure. You're wrong, And I've got several things to 385 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: say about this game. Most people expected a blowout. We 386 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: didn't even predict this game last week, So I'm certainly 387 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: not talking to you sarcastically because we saw this coming 388 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: by any stretch of the imagination. But how crazy was 389 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: this really? Well, I'll tell you I was looking at 390 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: Bill connolly stuff earlier today. Occasionally I'll reference his post 391 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: game win expectancy rate, and this is a very sometimes 392 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: entertaining metric. It's a valuable metric for future predictabilities purposes. 393 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: But essentially, what it's doing is it's ingesting all the 394 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: data from the game except the final score. So it's 395 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: looking essentially at the football game through numbers, and it's 396 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: asking if this game, if this set of data, if 397 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: this football game happened one hundred times, what percentage of 398 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: the time would the winner win the game? So LSU 399 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: won this game last night, how often would they win 400 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: this game? How about zero point six percent. It's the 401 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: lowest post game win expectancy rate of the college football season, 402 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: even lower than that miracle Texas pulled out against Oklahoma State. 403 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: Crazy crazy stuff. Like I said, I understand why a 404 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: lot of you were expecting a blowout here. Number was 405 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: twenty three, and the last thing you had seen from 406 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: LSU was you had seen Alabama paint the walls with 407 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: their blood the week before, so you just assumed, well, 408 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: if Alabama did that, even if Florida is not as 409 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: good as Alabama, I mean goodness, LSU was little more 410 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: than a warm body last week. For them to pound 411 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: on for three and a half hours, this will be 412 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: a walk in the park. Well, I want to take 413 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: you back to that Alabama LSU game for a second 414 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: and explain to you why this ended up not being 415 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: a walk in the park for Florida. You remember the game, 416 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: You remember DeVante Smith lighting it up, and you remember 417 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: the stats just kind of kind of like that. It 418 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: was like watching that thing on Prices, right, the wheel 419 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 1: just goes and goes and goes. You remember all that. 420 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: What you may not remember is that little incident in pregame. 421 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: Two hours before kickoff. Nick Saban walks in the stadium. 422 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: Jamie Eard all of CBS catches up with him and 423 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: he said, we talked about it on the show last week. 424 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: He said, you know, I'm pretty sure LSU thinks they 425 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: can beat Alabama tonight. These are Nick Saban's words, by 426 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: the way he said, and that's why we're gonna have 427 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: to come in here and we're gonna have to change 428 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: the way they think. That was the mentality Alabama had 429 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: is a thirty point favorite. They were looking to come 430 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: in there and completely and utterly salt the earth and 431 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: everything in front of them. And that's what they did. 432 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: When you think like that and you have superior culture 433 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: and you have superior players, you can run over people 434 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: like a tractor combine. But here's the problem. Dan Mullen 435 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: did the opposite. Dan Mullen allowed his team to show 436 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: up last night assuming his opponent was already defeated and 437 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: they weren't going to have to do the work like 438 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: Alabama did. Alabama shows up knowing or we got to 439 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: change the way they think. And once they don't think 440 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: they can beat us anymore, then we've dominated them. Dan 441 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: Mullen apparently, and Florida right behind him, show up last 442 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: night and think lsh's gonna get dominated tonight. Well, there's 443 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: a crazy thing that has to happen. You actually have 444 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 1: to do it. You have to do the dominating. It's 445 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: a point spread doesn't do anything. The point spreads only 446 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: there because of the assumption that you can take care 447 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: of business by an odds maker. And so who is 448 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 1: this on? I know a lot of you have been 449 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: talking about Marco Wilson today, and I know a lot 450 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: of you talking about kickers and all this stuff. There's 451 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: Collins showing you the shoe throw defense, Todd Grantham, this 452 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: and that. Let me ask you something, do you really 453 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: think that that's where this game was lost? Is that 454 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: what you think? I don't think that. I've I've watched 455 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: it already again today, and I'm of the opinion that 456 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: a lot of this was decided before I even turned 457 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: the game on last night. When you show I don't 458 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: care what point spread is on a game. When you 459 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: show up and you haven't mentally prepared yourself, you can't 460 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: do it midway through the first quarter. There is no 461 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: fabled post game or well not postgame. There is no 462 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: fabled halftime adjustment you can make. Once you get yourself 463 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: in the soup. You're in the soup. And they weren't 464 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: playing UT Chattanooga, for example. They're playing a team in LSU. 465 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: It's got some athletes. They've under performed this year, but 466 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: the athletes are still there, and so it was pretty 467 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: obvious early on Florida probably in a little bit of 468 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: trouble here. I'm gonna get Florida in just a second, 469 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: because I got a lot more to say about them. 470 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: But I think you got to give well, I gotta 471 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 1: give a lot of credit to LSU because it's been 472 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: a bad week down there. It's been a really bad week. 473 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: There is still a lot to deal with at LSU. 474 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: But see, I had a guy come at me yesterday 475 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: and he was talking about meaningless games and folks opting out, 476 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: and he asked the question in a rhetorical manner, well, 477 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you opt out for these meaningless games? Well, 478 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: some folks have opted out because they do view the 479 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: remaining games on the schedule as meaningless. But I want 480 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: to tell you something. There are enough folks out there 481 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: who are of the mentality that as long as they're 482 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: keeping score, then it means something because their competitors, and 483 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: that's how they're wired. Not everyone's wired that way, but 484 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: enough folks are wired like that to where not only 485 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: are they going to show up, and not only are 486 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: they going to pour it out on the life line 487 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: even if their record indicates, maybe to you at home 488 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: on your couch, that game's meaningless. Well, they think differently 489 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: than you, and they show up differently than you, and 490 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: they're on the field and you're on the couch because 491 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: they're different than you, and to them, they're ready to 492 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: go to war because it still means something. And here's 493 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: the funny thing. Once you remove some of the elements 494 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: from the locker room that are of the opposite mentality, 495 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: some of those folks who think it is meaningless, then 496 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: you can have one of those old addition by subtraction formulas. 497 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: And that's what happened with LSU last night. You got 498 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: a freshman most of you've never heard of him at quarterback. 499 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: They got a scholarship bordering on they got scholarship numbers 500 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: bordering on not even enough to play. And yet once 501 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: they had some folks walk out of there that you 502 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: think is going to be just detrimental to the odds 503 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: that they could even compete here. Not only do they compete, 504 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: they win now, make no mistake about it. As much 505 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: credit as is due to that team from last night, 506 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: well it doesn't change anything about the future for LSU. 507 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: It certainly changes things in terms of that staff understanding 508 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: who they can trust in a flyoxhle and more importantly, 509 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: perhaps who they can't trust in the foxhole. And that's 510 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: a future personnel decision thing. But also it doesn't necessarily 511 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: change a lot of what is messed up about LSU 512 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. There are a lot of things that 513 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: still need fixing. They're going to need to overturn a 514 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: lot in and of themselves in order to be competitive 515 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: next year in years to come. All that's true, but 516 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: it certainly leaves a lot better taste in your mouth 517 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: on what the alternative is. And secondly, you know, I 518 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: think it probably sells a lot of people down there 519 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: that had been on the fence over the last week 520 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 1: about whether a vast majority, a large swath of that 521 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: program had tuned ed orz ron out. At the very least, 522 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: it has to confirm in your mind, well that's not true. 523 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: Maybe rumors of an entire mutiny, an entire uprising, maybe 524 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: those were greatly exaggerated. Maybe there were some isolated pockets, 525 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: maybe some of them walked away. Maybe there's some self 526 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: policing going on at that program and the best ones 527 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: we're able to do that, and maybe last night was 528 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: a small just a small result and hopefully an indication 529 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: of what you can have coming. So there was a 530 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: lot of college football playoff talk after this, obviously around Florida. 531 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: And as much as you guys were talking about the 532 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson shoe throw last night and everything like that, 533 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: you know what was one of to me one of 534 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: the most inexplicable things that I heard in this broadcast. 535 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't the postgame scene that Dan Mullen made, It 536 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: wasn't the shoe throw that stuff. Yeah, everyone heard that. 537 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: I heard something that not a lot of you were 538 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: talking about during this broadcast if you had the TV 539 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: feed up and you had the audio on. The broadcast 540 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: crew was openly talking about conversations they had had with 541 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: Dan Mullen and Todd Grantham during the week about playoff scenarios. 542 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, to myself, what in the world are 543 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: they talking about that for during a game week. They're 544 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: not guaranteeing anything. I can't remember the last time I 545 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: turned on an Alabama game and a broadcast team details 546 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: thirty minute conversations they had with Nick Saban about how 547 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: they think they're layoff seating is going to pan out, 548 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: in other words, taking your opponent for granted. I think 549 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: this was one of the most humbling nights of Dan 550 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: Mullen's career. He was in wounded animal mode. He was 551 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: in full defense or denial mode in his postgame press conference. 552 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: I didn't even bother to tell Colin to clip from it. 553 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: It's a waste of time. You can go find it 554 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: if you want to. It was fairly pathetic. I mean, 555 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: the thing about it is the guy made some accurate 556 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: points in his post game, but yet it was so 557 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: childish that no one really cares to hear it from him, 558 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: Like someone else can make those points, not you. This 559 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: is the same guy who complained about the size of 560 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: the crowd at Texas A and M after they lost, 561 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: and now it's well, maybe we shouldn't have been playing 562 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: this game, you know. Well, okay, Dan, let someone else 563 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: say that. Please just let someone else say that. But 564 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: this was very humbling because he knows, trust me, he's 565 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: keenly aware. He didn't have his team ready to play 566 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: last night. He had his team thinking that LSU was 567 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: going to come in. We're gonna put up a good, 568 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: solid pushback that we're gonna get some good work in 569 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: against him for about a quarter and a half and 570 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: then then run up the score, and then there'd be 571 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: a halftime decision about whether to leave his starter's in 572 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: or not. You're not Alabama. Florida's not Alabama, obviously in 573 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: terms of personnel or in terms of internal wiring. They 574 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: don't think like that, is my point. So if they 575 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: don't think like that, you certainly can't afford to think 576 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: like that. The entire reason they are who they are 577 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: is because they don't think like that. Like that's the 578 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: whole point. So then you have the college football playoff conversation, 579 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: and to me, I'm not all that focused on it 580 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: because I don't think it's gonna be relevant for more 581 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: than one week. The conversation essentially is, well, can Florida 582 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: still get in after they win? Or if they win 583 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: the SEC championship game? Can they still get in? Like? 584 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: What would have to happen? Friends? There are a few 585 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: truths in this world, but I really think one of 586 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: them is I don't think you're gonna have to worry 587 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: about that after Saturday. I really don't. Now. Having said that, 588 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: I think a lot of you are going about this 589 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: argument from the wrong perspective. A lot of you are 590 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: going at the ten games played versus five or six 591 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: games play thing with Ohio State. If we lose two 592 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: games and they're five, and you know, shouldn't we still 593 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: be in because we put ourselves out there more. That's 594 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: not the way to make the argument. I understand what 595 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: you're saying. I've told you I think there's merit on 596 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: both sides of this. Here's what you should do. You 597 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: should talk to the side that's defending the Ohio State stance, 598 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: and then look on your side at the side that's 599 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: defending the we played more games, therefore we should be 600 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: rewarded for that stance, and you should say, well, let's 601 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: find a compromise. Okay, you guys over there, Let's say 602 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: you're talking about Ohio State. You guys have played what 603 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: six games after the Big ten title game? Six games? Okay, Well, 604 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: here's the compromise. We'll just find our best six game 605 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: stretch from this year, and we'll let that be our 606 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: sample size versus your sample size, So games we played 607 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: versus games you played. Now, Florida has got a six 608 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: and oh stretch obviously, and their schedule, and then we 609 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: can compare resumes like that's the way you should go 610 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: at it, cause if they're gonna look back at you 611 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: would say no, you got to count all the games 612 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: you played. Well, then you enter into a little bit 613 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: different discussion. Having said that, though, like I said, I 614 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be relevant. This is something that's 615 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: gonna steam. I gotta refresh the computer, this is something 616 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: that's going to sting for a long time. So I 617 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: want you to think as we close this and move on, 618 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: I want you to think about what your perception of 619 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: Florida was just twenty four hours ago going into the 620 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: LSU game. You obviously expect them to win that, even 621 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: if they're just competitive against Alabama. They've got the SEC East. 622 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: They were in the playoff conversation right up to the 623 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: very end, maybe even after the SEC title game, depending 624 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: on the way the rest of the country shook out. 625 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: Recruiting has been as good this year as it's been 626 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: at any point under Dan Mullen, and so you feel 627 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: like there are several rungs that you're about to climb 628 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: up on that ladder in years to come. Now you 629 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: imploded in the biggest moment of the year to date. 630 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: You are in all likelihood going to be run by 631 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: Alabama Saturday, and I think that was going to happen 632 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: either way. But in all likelihood you are never assume. 633 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: We saw last night what happens when you do that, 634 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: and Georgia has surged at the end of the year. 635 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: And so I was wondering, and I'm still wondering, like, 636 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: as we get out of this thing, what looked like 637 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: a quantum leap for Florida and maybe kind of a 638 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: reset button hit in the SEC East and a reassumption 639 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: of the top of the mantle for Florida, I wonder 640 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: if it's really even gonna feel like that, Like when 641 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: we get done with this, is it really even gonna 642 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: feel like Florida is the better team in the East? 643 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: At the end of the year, they still beat Georgia, 644 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: they still got the SEC East crown. I'm not taking 645 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: that away from them or anything like that. I'm just 646 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: saying the way you thought you were going to feel 647 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the year as a Florida fan 648 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: versus the way you're in all likelihood going to end 649 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: up feeling could be night and day different. And it's 650 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: all because you allowed yourself not as a fan but 651 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: as a CEO of that organization and Dan Mullen, you 652 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: allowed yourself to show up thinking you already had an 653 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: opponent beat. You can never ever, ever let that happen. 654 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: The thing about it is a lot of coaches have 655 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: done that before. They have suffered at the hands of 656 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: assuming before and allowing complacency to set in. It's just 657 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: normally it happens way out of the spotlight, really early 658 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: in your career. Most of the time you're not coaching 659 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: a top ten program that's in playoff contention when you 660 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: allow that to happen. So that was a tough thing 661 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: to watch last night, really really tough. Let's shift right quick. 662 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: I guess several more games to talk about. Let's shift 663 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: right quick. Something that we thought may happen, and we 664 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: thought it may not happen. Well, it ended up not happening. 665 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: Texas has announced via athletic director Crystal Conte yesterday they're 666 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: going to keep Tom Herman. Got a lot to say 667 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: about this too. You know, we got what we expected. 668 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: At least we expected definitive word to come sometime during 669 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: the weekend, and it did so. Tom Herman still the 670 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: head coach at Texas. This doesn't make sense in the 671 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: normal world. I was talking to a buddy of mine 672 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: yesterday as the news broke. He follows college football, and 673 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: he said, wait a second, they made a statement. They 674 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: put out it. What do you mean they put out 675 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: a statement. I said, yeah, they put out a statement 676 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: Texas that Tom Herman is going to remain as the 677 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: head coach. He said, if my boss isn't going to 678 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: fire me, he just expects me to show up to 679 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: work Monday, Like he doesn't put out a statement saying 680 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: Billy still works here. Essentially, well, Billy does not have 681 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: to recruit. Tom Herman does, and so you have to 682 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: send the message because the message was already out there 683 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: that they were recording other potential candidates, i e. Urban Meyer. 684 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: So now we gotta pour water on the campfire, like 685 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: are you afraid of the dark. We got to put 686 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: it out and then let the smoke billow and you 687 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: get at least one more year here. Texas under Tom 688 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: Herman is not a one hundred percent lost cause I 689 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of doom and gloom from folks 690 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: who wanted to see a move made. I understand all 691 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: that this is not a one hundred percent guaranteed lost, 692 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: cause I want to take you back, since we were 693 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: talking about Auburn earlier, a lot of you know what 694 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 1: the term jetgate means in the world of college football. 695 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: For those of you who don't, there was once upon 696 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: a time a night wherein a lot of power players 697 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: hopped on a private jet and flew from Auburn to Kentucky. 698 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: I believe that's where they met with him, and they 699 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: tried to hire Bobby Petrino right out from under Louisville 700 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: and bring him back to Auburn, and it didn't work out. 701 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: It leaked, and Tommy Tuberville ended up really having a 702 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: lot of teflon wrapped around him for a little while. 703 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: He also went on to run off six in a 704 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: row against Alabama, and now he's a US senator. So 705 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Tom Herman couldn't turn this thing around. 706 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,719 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's insanely hard when not only you know, 707 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: but the whole world knows that, dude, they didn't really 708 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: even want you. It's just they couldn't get the other guy, 709 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: and that's the only reason you're there. The odds are 710 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: just too long for me to buy into. Like it 711 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: could happen. A lot of things could happen. The most 712 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: fundamental issue here, as I said, is the whole world 713 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: understands what went down. It's unfortunate that they couldn't target 714 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer and then keep it under wraps. But I 715 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: understand why that's pretty impossible. Texas doesn't want Tom Herman. 716 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: That's the painful reality. We know it. He now knows it. 717 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: Every recruit in America knows it, and if they don't, 718 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: they'll be informed by rival staffs. And so you've got 719 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: every think about how many people are involved in this thing. 720 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: It's a giant operation. You've got your staff there, you've 721 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: got your current roster there. You've also got opposing teams 722 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: that recruit against you. You've got recruit you've got potential 723 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: staff hires and potential transfers, the latter two of which 724 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: you would hopefully use to write the ship if you 725 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: got to make coaching moves. How many elite coaches assistant 726 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: coaches out there are you going to convince to come 727 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: into a place where they know from the day they 728 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: arrive their bosses on shaky ground at best. And the 729 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: only reason he's there it's because they couldn't find anyone 730 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: better for the time being. If you're a transfer, you 731 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: want to come into that. Certainly, if you're a senior 732 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: in high school, is that where you want to go? 733 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: Is that the piece of paper that you want to sign. 734 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: It's not hard to figure out why this is not impossible, 735 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: but very difficult to see panning out. But I'm sure 736 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: there's an exception out there. Like I had someone talk 737 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: to me today and that's where the Tubberville example came up. 738 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: And so there are exceptions. I'm just saying, you find 739 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: me one exception out there of someone who has weathered 740 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: that storm, that combination of factors and has come out clean. 741 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: On the other side, I'll show you fifty to one 742 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: hundred who have failed miserably, Like the the road of 743 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: college football is littered with the careers of guys who 744 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: almost got fired, and they got close enough to being 745 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: fired where the world knew how close they came, and 746 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: therefore they could never salvage things. So I don't know, 747 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: this seems pretty untenable at this point. But expectations being unrealistic, 748 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: that's not something that I buy into. At Texas, like 749 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: we were talking about expectations at Auburn, I hear this 750 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: stuff all the time about Texas having unrealistic expectations. I 751 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: dismiss it entirely. Just dismiss it entirely. As we again, 752 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: I've said this like five times already. As we said, 753 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: with Auburn, one hundred percent investment naturally gives you an 754 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: expectation of one hundred percent return on your investment. And 755 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: as far as Texas is concerned, they're different than Auburn 756 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: number one, because they're more established than Aarburn, they got 757 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: deeper pockets than Auburn. They're in an infinitely more winnable 758 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: annual position than Auburn is too. All those teams I mentioned, LSU, Georgia, Alabama, 759 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: they don't play any of them, and they're parked right 760 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: in the middle of the state that their competition that 761 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: they do have to play comes to recruit I was 762 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: talking to someone over the weekend. Never thought in a 763 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: million years that I hear someone say this, said to me, 764 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: you know, Oklahoma at this point views Texas, A and 765 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: M as their biggest recruiting rival. Can you imagine that 766 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: being the state of affairs. That's where we are right 767 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: now for Texas. But your expectations at Texas I don't 768 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,959 Speaker 1: think that they're irrational whatsoever. Let's just lay it out, Okay, 769 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: here are the demands for a Texas fan who's one 770 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: hundred percent emotionally and financially invested. What are the demands. 771 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: It's not a national title every year. They don't expect 772 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: their head coach to be Nick Sabe and I've never 773 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: heard of Texas fan say that. But here's what they expect. 774 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: Number One, they want to dominate the Big twelve in recruiting. 775 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: That should be the expectation at Texas. If even an 776 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: above average coach is there, who are you competing against? 777 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: Who could you explain away as being able to come 778 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: into your state which they're going to have to do 779 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: to dominate you and taking talent out of your state. 780 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: Because no one in the state of Texas is going 781 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: to dominate Texas and recruiting. It's not gonna be TCU 782 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: or Baylor, So it's going to be Oklahoma who comes 783 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: in your state and takes your talent Like that can't 784 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: be tolerated and it's not irrational to expect to recruit 785 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: the state of Texas better than Oklahoma does. That's not 786 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: irrational at all. Second thing is they want to contend 787 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: for the Big Twelve every year. That's not irrational. There 788 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: should be no two or three year rebuild. There should 789 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: be no dips at Texas. There should be at Kansas State. 790 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: There absolutely should be at Oklahoma State. There should never 791 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: be that. This is such, an, as I said, an 792 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: infinitely more winnable situation. This should be for the head 793 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: coach at Texas what Dabbo has turned the ACC into 794 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: it Clemson. You have one more big time rival in 795 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: Oklahoma than maybe Dabo currently does in the ACC. But 796 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: otherwise look around you think about how disadvantaged the rest 797 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: of that world in the Big twelve is, including Oklahoma, 798 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: really relative to all the resources at your disposal, and 799 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: you can't get out of your own way. That's not 800 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: an expect problem, I don't think so. The other things 801 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: that they want to do is they want to be 802 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: competitive in the college football playoff picture, which if you're 803 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: a contender in the Big Twelve year in year out, 804 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: you probably accomplished that by default. Again, not irrational at all. 805 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: And they want a head coach who can get the 806 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: appreciation and honor of the culture at Texas grasped. And 807 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: that's what they don't have right now, and it bothers them. 808 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: It bothers them to no end, And I completely understand it. 809 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: I think you have to be close to the program 810 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: or have grown up around that program and that culture 811 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: to fully understand it. But I understand it as much 812 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: as an outsider can. So I listen. I wish all 813 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: the best is Tom Herman. I think he's in a 814 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: pretty unwinnable position right now. So it would surprise me 815 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: if this time next year we're not talking about Texas 816 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: like we're talking about Auviron right now. How about some 817 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: Week fifteen reaction, Boy are there's some crazy stuff happened 818 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: yesterday easily, for my money, the most unpredictable week of 819 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: the year in college football, which is not shocking considering 820 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: how deep we are into the season, how many postgame 821 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: or how many preseason goals are out the window, how 822 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: many postseason goals are out the window. And so let's 823 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: start in Miami, because that was one that got sideways 824 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: in a hurry. North Carolina sixty two to twenty six. 825 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: This was a legal hate crime that happened right there 826 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: on National TV. Could not believe what I was watching now. 827 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: It was just a couple of weeks back. I think 828 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: it was around Thanksgiving week that North Carolina played Notre Dame, 829 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: and Notre Dame really limited North Carolina on the ground, 830 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: which led me to speculate about this game. I wonder 831 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: if Miami can do the same thing Notre Dame, did, 832 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, really bottle up that Tar Heels run game 833 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: and force him to throw the ball to win. I 834 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: wonder if they could do that. Now, there was a 835 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: little subplot here. Those of you who are familiar with 836 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: mac Brown's career, you probably noticed that, Oh, he's playing 837 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: one of his former assistants this week. I think we 838 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: mentioned it in passing last week. Manny Diaz, once upon 839 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: a time was the defensive coordinator for Mac Brown at Texas. 840 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: Mandy ds currently the Miami head coach, Mac Brown currently 841 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: the North Carolina head coach. Well, there was a Brigham 842 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: Young game and b why you tough to say that? 843 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: Why ran for like half a mile against Texas, couldn't 844 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: stop him? Could not stop molasses in December Mandy Diaz 845 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: that day, and so mac Brown fires him, and a 846 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: lot of you probably forgot about that. Well, mac Brown 847 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: didn't forget about it. He did not. And so they 848 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: go in this game yesterday, and they run for five 849 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four total yards, which set all kinds 850 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: of records. You want, a padlock stat, possibly the padlock 851 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: stat of the year was hung by North Carolina on 852 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: Miami's forehead yesterday. Five hundred and fifty four rushing yards. 853 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 1: They averaged per carry ten point one yards. They averaged 854 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: a first down every time they ran the football for 855 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: the entirety of the football game, they averaged a first down. 856 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: They put up seven hundred and seventy eight total yards. 857 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: Some of you could not do that on XBO if 858 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: I gave you ten tries. So Number one, there's nothing 859 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: to say about Miami at this point. They had two 860 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: big chances this year and they got run out of 861 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: the building both times, once against Clemson, even more emphatically 862 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: against North Carolina. But as much as I don't really 863 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: think there's anything to say about Miami, I think a 864 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: lot of folks initially dismissed how well Notre Dame handled 865 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: this offense, this North Carolina offense when they played, And 866 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: I told you I thought it was an impressive win. 867 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: And I'm glad this happened yesterday because now you sort 868 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 1: of get to reframe that Notre Dame performance and say 869 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: that defense did what to North Carolina and now we 870 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 1: get to frame it within the context to what's coming 871 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: this Saturday, the ACC Championship game. Clemson's favored by ten. 872 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,479 Speaker 1: We're going to break that game down on Tuesday Show. 873 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: Clemson may very well win the game. They should be 874 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: the favorite. They're the better overall team, I think. But 875 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: I think you are sorely mistaken if you believe that 876 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: the mere presence of Trevor Lawrence is going to enable 877 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: Clemson to run up and down the field at will 878 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: against Notre Dame. I don't think that there is a 879 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: team that they're going to play, at least until the playoffs. 880 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: Maybe that's going to do that, maybe not even in 881 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Notre Dame is a very good team. They 882 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: are a very sound, veteran defensive team. So you may 883 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 1: beat them, but you're not going to do it rain 884 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: and all over them like you've seen Clemson do in 885 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,240 Speaker 1: the past, and like you've watched Alabama do to teams 886 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: this year. I think a lot of folks believe, well, 887 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: now that Clemson has the quarterback, it's going to probably 888 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: them versus Notre Dame look a lot like Bama versus A, 889 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: and m It's not the way that's going to be. 890 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: I don't think. So congratulations to Mack Brown, because I'll 891 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: tell you the second point that I took away is 892 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: they can weaponize this game. They can weaponize it in 893 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: recruiting South Florida. They can weaponize it in establishing and 894 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: entrenching the culture that they want to win Trench there 895 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: because they needed their own big time win this year, 896 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: like they didn't have that program Definer and they kind 897 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: of got it here. And the other thing they can 898 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: do is it's the overall identity, Like that's what they 899 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: want North Carolina football. They want you to be scared 900 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: that they're going to embarrass you. Doesn't matter where you 901 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 1: reside South Florida, it doesn't matter if you're in Boston College. 902 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 1: They want you thinking that way. And they got you 903 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: thinking that way now, and now you got to build 904 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: on it. They're recruiting very well. You got to continue 905 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: to build on it. Georgia, speaking of building towards next 906 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 1: year beating Missouri forty nine to fourteen. You know, Georgia, 907 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: you got to give some credit here too, I think 908 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: because they came out of that Florida game. All the 909 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: initial preseason goals are out the window, and they hit 910 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: the reset button, and now they're probably playing stronger football 911 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the year than anyone expected them to. 912 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: Defense held Missouri to two hundred total yards yesterday, and 913 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: I told you so. North Carolina averaged ten point one 914 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 1: yards per rush against Miami. Missouri averaged one yard per 915 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 1: rush against Georgia pretty good Saturday offense through and ran 916 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: for nearly three hundred yards apiece. So Georgia's offense looks 917 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: really good right now. And as far as I'm concerned, 918 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, you look at JT. Daniels day, so I 919 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: think he had had eighteen point seven yards per completion. 920 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: That'll get it done most times. That's kind of a 921 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: pad luck stat in and of itself. The potential for 922 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one with this team is obvious, and I 923 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: don't think twenty twenty one is something you have to 924 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 1: wait until the spring to start establishing and instilling. Twenty 925 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: twenty taught us never to assume spring to begin with. 926 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: But if JT. Daniels is back, and we expect him 927 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: to be back, and you look at what the potential 928 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: is here. Now you start to realize why they're playing 929 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: the way they're playing, like they have convinced their locker room, 930 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: they convince their organization, Kirby Smart really being the they 931 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: they have convinced. Guys up there, your twenty twenty one 932 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: season has started. Now, Hey, if you want to be 933 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 1: in a position this time next year that Florida or 934 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: Alabama are in, we got to start it now. And 935 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: I think that's what they've done. And it's a lot 936 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: easier to say that than it is to do it, 937 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: because when you're in a pandemic year and you think 938 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: you're a national championship contender and you're out of it 939 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: midway through the year, it's really easy to pack it in. 940 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: A lot of other teams have done that. Georgia hadn't 941 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: done that, So hats off to Kirby Smart for getting 942 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: that done. Alabama skull drug Arkansas fifty two to three. 943 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: Now it may not look like it. In fact, it 944 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: doesn't look like it at all. And if you didn't 945 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: watch this game, what I'm about to tell you will 946 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: shock you. Alabama struggled a little bit early. Yeah, I 947 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,280 Speaker 1: told you, it's going to shock you. If you're into 948 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: live betting, which I perused from time to time. You 949 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: could have gotten Alabama minus eighteen and a half at 950 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: one point in the live wagering section of your preferred 951 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: sports book. Now we were on Arkansas plus thirty two. 952 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: That didn't pan out, obviously, but bought me some of 953 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: Alabama minus eighteen and a half hope to hit a 954 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: middle there. As it turns out, it just bailed out 955 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: the original wager. Did you watch any of this game? 956 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: Most of you probably didn't, so you would think that 957 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 1: if they win a game fifty two to three, then 958 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: it must have been another one of those Mac Jones 959 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: bombing away DeVante Smith. Let's see how many touchdowns he scored. 960 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: Alabama didn't have a receiving touchdown in this whole game. Zero. 961 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: Mac Jones got his numbers here, twenty four for two 962 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: hundred and eight yards, zero touchdowns, DeVante Smith three catches 963 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 1: for twenty two yards, zero touchdowns. Now, receiving touchdowns, tell 964 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: you what they did have. They had six on the ground, 965 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: and they had DeVante Smith returning a punt for a touchdown. 966 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: And that's how they did it. And it was what 967 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: it was. I mean, it's just kind of like a 968 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: machine that shows up every week and it's programmed, it's 969 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: not even doesn't even appear to be made of humans, 970 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: but just parts at this point. And whereas they show 971 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: up and they methodically dissect an opponent, you had the 972 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: alternative on display in Gainesville. And that's why you continue 973 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 1: to get through results from Alabama, and it's why a 974 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: lot of other programs can't seem to duplicate it week 975 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: over week. It's just a different wiring. Having said that, 976 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: something we don't talk about a whole lot on the show, 977 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: Heisman odds shifted faster than an election after this game 978 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: and then the subsequent Florida game last night. Right now, 979 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm looking at several sports books right before we went 980 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: on the air, the pretty widely held consensus is that 981 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,720 Speaker 1: Mac Jones is now the favorite to win the Heisman Trophy, 982 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 1: sitting it around minus two hundred or two to one. 983 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: You know who's number two, Davonte Smith Alabama currently has 984 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: the number one and number two odds on favorites to 985 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: win the Heisman Trophy. Now, we have openly stumped and 986 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: will continue to stump for Devonte Smith on this show. 987 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: We believe he's the best player in college football. And 988 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: he should win this trophy. And right now Mac Jones 989 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: listen having a great season, but DeVante Smith is the 990 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: best player I've seen this year and I think he 991 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,919 Speaker 1: should win the award for the record. You may wonder 992 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 1: who's next in line, Well, Kyle Trask is it plus 993 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: three point fifty, so Smith's plus two to fifty. Trask 994 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,720 Speaker 1: is plus three fifty. He was the favorite going into yesterday. 995 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is plus one thousand, so Trevor significant ground 996 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: to make up in one game to do it in. 997 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: And as for the West Coast, I wanted to hit 998 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: this really, really quick because I know there's a certain 999 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 1: network out there telling you that the winner of this 1000 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 1: game has right at a fifty percent chance to make 1001 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: the playoff, which as we all know, is absurd. But 1002 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 1: we still need to congratulate Southern Cal. They beat UCLA 1003 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: forty three thirty eight. The Jerseys in this game, sometimes 1004 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: people start saying things and then other people start repeating it, 1005 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, like a clapping seal, and I think it's ridiculous. 1006 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: But what everyone else thinks about this game, I think 1007 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: it's probably the best opponent on opponent color combo just 1008 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: when it comes to jerseys that you see. I'm a 1009 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 1: big fan. And so what about the game, Well, Southern 1010 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: Col's down thirty five to twenty three entering the fourth quarter. 1011 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,479 Speaker 1: All hope appears to be lost, and then here they come. 1012 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: Not only do they comeback, they win it in the 1013 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: final seconds. They covered for those of you who care 1014 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: about that, because that's what great teams do. Good ones win, 1015 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: great ones cover. And here they are. They're undefeated. Now, 1016 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: as it turns out, in the Pac twelve, what feels 1017 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: like a season that's just started is now over and 1018 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 1: they are what are they? Four to oh five and zero? 1019 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: And so they are off to the Pac twelve Championship game. 1020 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: Now that's great. It's certainly unexpected. In fact, I've gotten 1021 00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,720 Speaker 1: more out of both of those teams than I expected 1022 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 1: this hyar. But let me please inform you the University 1023 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: of Southern California does not have better playoff odds than Clemson. 1024 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 1: There is nobody who would wager actual money on that nonsense. 1025 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: Southern Cal if they win the Pac twelve Championship Game, 1026 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: Saturday is not going to be in the College Football Playoff. Clemson, 1027 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: if they lose, Saturday's probably not going to be in. 1028 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: But if they win Saturday, I can certainly tell you 1029 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: they will be in. And to ever try and sell 1030 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: anyone on the idea that this team Southern Cal is 1031 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: sentting at fifty percent to make the playoff and Clumbson 1032 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: is under fifty percent, you know what, I'm not going 1033 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 1: to insult your intelligence trying to explain the math. It 1034 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: is absurd. So having said that, congratulations to Clay Helton 1035 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: in Southern Cal. Because this was a season that was 1036 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,760 Speaker 1: going to be used against him as the final straw 1037 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: that breaks the camel's back out there. Well you can't 1038 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: do it now because he hasn't lost a game. He's 1039 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: gone full Herman boone. Someone walks up to him behind 1040 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: the stands pregame, Clay, lose a game and they'll fire you, 1041 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: and he pukes and then he goes and he runs 1042 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: the table. And now they got to play Groved and 1043 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: for the state championship. And so congratulations to Clay Helton. 1044 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 1: Now it is a truncated schedule this week. Obviously there 1045 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: are not as many games, and so we are probably 1046 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: not going to throw six or seven or eight bets 1047 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 1: out there. Even after yesterday's debacle, we are still cruising 1048 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: at fifty seven percent against the number. Really really good year, 1049 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: still one of our best years we've ever had, but 1050 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: we do have an early best bet. It's not going 1051 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 1: to be a conference championship game yet. We may move 1052 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: on some of those games, but we do want to 1053 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: grab Missouri minus one and a half at Mississippi State. 1054 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: Like that number. We got Missouri winning by six and 1055 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 1: a half, six and three quarter points, which would be 1056 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 1: a record if they did that's never happened before. But 1057 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 1: our model likes Missouri by close to a touchdown. So 1058 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: we will take the Tigers on the road to end 1059 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,720 Speaker 1: the season at minus one and a half. Now, Colin 1060 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,760 Speaker 1: has four other blank spaces there on the Rama Noudle express. 1061 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that we're going to fill all of them, 1062 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: but we are going to have more plays than that. 1063 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: That's just our early best bet. And I also want 1064 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 1: to remind you again, listen, there is a lot that's 1065 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 1: gonna happen this week. Inevitably, there's a whole lot that's 1066 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Make sure now more than ever, you're following 1067 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: me on Twitter at late Kick Josh, so be sure 1068 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: to do that. I don't know if you guys have 1069 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 1: realized it because it's conference championship weekend coming up. At 1070 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,320 Speaker 1: least early signing day is Wednesday. I'm looking at the 1071 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: equipment right over here, off the camera. We are going 1072 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: to be for several hours live on all kinds of 1073 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: platforms Wednesday. Barton will be in here, Will Fong will 1074 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 1: be in here. I haven't seen those guys since March 1075 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,879 Speaker 1: in person, by the way, just zoom, so I can't 1076 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 1: confirm what they even look like at this point from 1077 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: the chest down, which you know, the more I think 1078 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: about it's probably not all that important. But anyway, we're 1079 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of coverage Wednesday, so be looking 1080 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: for that. We're still doing our normal schedule this week. 1081 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 1: We'll still have shows this week and so on the 1082 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: back half, over the back end of the show. Let 1083 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 1: me remind you one more time, because I got a 1084 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: lot of emails this week, and I wasn't taking spots 1085 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: this week, but this upcoming week and the next week, 1086 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: the next two weeks, I am booking spots right now. 1087 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 1: Zoom sessions one on one, one hour apiece for those 1088 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: of you who are interested in getting into this line 1089 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 1: of work or anything congruent to this line of work 1090 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,800 Speaker 1: in sports media and you don't necessarily know how to 1091 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: pull it off. You want advice, you want feedback, whatever 1092 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: the case may be. Joshpat seven zero six at gmail 1093 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 1: dot com or dm me on Twitter at late Kick Josh, 1094 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: busiest week of the year coming up. Happy to have 1095 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 1: you here. We had the best week of traffic that 1096 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: we've had since we started this show on the YouTube 1097 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 1: channel last week. If you haven't already, subscribed to the 1098 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel and subscribe to 1099 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: the Late Kick podcast because those sometimes are different things 1100 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,959 Speaker 1: in terms of content, And with that in mind, let's 1101 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: dive into this week at its conference championship week. For 1102 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: director Colin for producer Jordan. On the podcast side of things, 1103 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate. Thanks so much for joining us on 1104 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: a very busy Sunday and i'd have a great start 1105 00:52:50,040 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: to your week and God bless