WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Ossenfort's To-Do List 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:05.720 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead, 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:10.560 he got jacked. This is the big red Rail presented 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:14.840 by satan Ford in Gilbert. Mary's Gonna score touchdown Slam 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.560 to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:23.079 came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:29.080 you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Satanford? State Farm? 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.080 Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm, 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:37.920 and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Hacy Cardinals dot com, 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:46.760 Slash podcasts, The Reds Rising Guard, Temperaturizing vision, blurring, rage 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.920 taking over. Here's Paul Calvci. I'm ready. I'm one hundred 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.240 percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee, 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:59.000 it doesn't get any better than that. Unleash the fjard, 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:04.039 you know, when it comes to the Arizona Cardinals head 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.959 Coaching Search two thousand and twenty three, when it comes 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:12.920 to casting that net far and wide. My opinion, thanks 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:16.880 for asking, Ron Wolfley. I don't really care about the when, 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:21.640 or the where or even the how. I ultimately just 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:26.080 care about the who and the why, and then the 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.520 who else? Who's that coach bringing along as part of 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.680 his staff. That's all I care about, because once upon 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.440 a time, the Arizona Cardinals were what they were dead 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.800 last in hiring Bruce Arians. Did that work out pretty well? 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.920 Were their immediate returns on investment from that higher once 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:45.120 upon a time twenty thirteen, Yes, there were rhetorical question 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.280 ten years ago that was the case. So okay, we're 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.040 going to get into all this and more on this 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.840 addition to the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:56.200 and Gilbert. We are Santanford, Paul KLVCI, Ron Wolfley, and 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.800 speaking of who our big guest tonight, Drew Stanton, because 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.320 the former Cardinals quarterback and longtime NFL quarterback. I mean, 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.000 he's had first time head coaches, he's had experienced head coaches, 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.080 he's had offensive and defensive head coaches. He's had anybody 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.280 and everybody under the sun, and so we'll get his 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.600 thoughts and also he's had a rehab from season ending injuries. 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.800 We'll talk about Kyler and Monty and Penning free agents, 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.080 but right now we're on woefully your thoughts and just 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.200 where things stand with his head coaching search. As yet 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:28.440 another interview was conducted today reportedly with Brian Callahan, the 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.440 Cincinnati Bengals offensive coordinator. Yeah, POULI you know, for me, 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.040 I've got to start with this. I got to start 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:39.120 with Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray himself right now. Well, we're 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.040 talking about Sean Payton of course out there in whether 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.160 or not Sean Payton was going to be the perfect 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.760 fit to get Kyler Murray right. And we're talking about 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.360 defensive minded coaches. You know how much I like defensive 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.200 minded coaches coming in here to be the next head 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.560 coach for the Arizona Cardinals. How are they going to 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:59.000 impact Kyler Murray? You know it, As I've been saying 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:03.200 for weeks, Paully, does Kyler Murray think he's got to 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.920 get right? Does Kyler Murray think you have to answer 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:10.000 that question? I think first, Paully, and I think Kyler 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.760 knows that. I think this rehab is an excellent opportunity 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.320 for Kyler to come to the waters and be water, 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.519 so to speak, and allow himself to learn the game 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:23.360 of football all over again and recommit himself to becoming 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.920 the best que he can be. Polly, that has got 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:31.320 to happen first. Only then will whoever the head coach 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.640 is for the Arizona Cardinals and the next head coach. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:37.400 Only then will he be able to actually improve Kyler's game. 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.480 All right, So like this week, Brian Callahan interviewed today, 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:44.320 reportedly former quarterback coach with the Lions and the Raiders 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.800 and obviously with Cincinnati and Lou Amarumo. He was a yesterday. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.960 Now he's a defensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals. On Tuesday, 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.920 Mike Kafka, the offensive coordinator for the Giants, also known 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.880 as a quarterback guru. He worked with Patrick Mahomes and 0:03:57.880 --> 0:03:59.800 look at the be foreign after this year when he 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:01.800 came on board with the Giants and Daniel Jones. But 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:07.920 I'm intrigued. Why are you intrigued by a defensive head coach? Yeah, PAULI, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.160 that's a great question, it really is. But largely because 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:15.560 of three three things. Number One, it gives that head 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.560 coach who's a defensive minded head coach. It gives separation 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.479 to Kyler Murray. I doubt he's going to be the 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.680 quarterback coach. I doubt he's going to be the offensive coordinator. 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:28.800 I doubt he's going to meddle in any of that. 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:33.360 He's basically going to be separated from a lot of 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:38.080 the day to day, the meeting to meeting, the practice 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:42.159 to practice. He's going to be separated from Kyler Murray 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.600 a lot. I like that. I think they need to 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.599 bring a guy in who is going to be a 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.599 true alpha mel He's going to be the guy. I'm 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.520 the head coach. You're the quarterback, you're the defensive tackle, 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:57.159 you're the offensive tackle. You guys are players. I'm the 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.279 head coach. I'm going to command this room. I'm going 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:04.919 to command this room. I think that's important. Polly. You 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.599 know that I'm old school. I'm not going to apologize 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.159 for being that, but I think that's the next head 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.000 coach coming in here. That's job one for him. So 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.720 a true CEO just by default, because you're a defensive 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.799 minded head coach, that's separate. Yeah, that's number one, Polly. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.000 Number two, we've got young defensive players, of course on 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.600 this roster that are really really good guys like Isaiah 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.760 Simmons and Zaven Collins and Marco Wilsons and oh, by 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.679 the way, if you actually take somebody with a number 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:38.159 three pick overall, there's a real good chance that's going 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:42.000 to be a defensive player as well. Now you've got 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:45.159 these young guys, Polly, that you want to bring along, 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.520 and I think having a defensive minded head coach will 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.520 really benefit them. Plus, I think defense could be a 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:55.279 strength when you factor in improvement from Zaven Collins and 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.440 Isaiah Simmons and Marco Wilson and Buddha Baker. We all 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:02.520 know good he is, Jalen Thompson, Zach Allen, Paul, if 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.359 you can sign Zach Allen and bring him back, and 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.400 Byron Murphy as well, those two I think are really 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:16.120 critical signings bringing back this offseason as unrestricted free agents. 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.640 So I think that's number two Paulie and number three 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.039 for me. It's just the fact the defensive minded head 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.760 coach has the kind of mentality more than not, Paul 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:31.039 every defensive coordinator I have been around, or a defensive 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:35.400 minded head coach, they just have a mentality that focuses 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.880 more on the physicality of the game, and I like that. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:41.560 It's a big red rage. In fact, we're gonna ask 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.800 Drew stand about some of those penning free agents next. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:45.880 I'm also going to ask him about first time head 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.760 coach versus experienced head coach, because when you look at 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.599 the list as it stands right now, with three teams 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:55.120 having made their hires, the Carolina Panthers going for Frank Wright, 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:59.320 Denver Broncos Sean Payton, Houston Texans Demiko Ryans, and it 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.359 sounds like that's preordained from the get go, Damiko Ryan's 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:04.719 being a longtime team captain with the Texans, his wife 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.240 being from the Houston area. So if you look at 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.120 the Cardinals list, there are three prominent names who are 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.560 defensive guys. Brian Flores, former head coach in the Miami Dolphins, 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.160 who's interviewed, of course, Vance Joseph Cardinals defensive coordinator, former 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:19.640 head coach of the Broncos back in the day when 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:23.560 his quarterback was like Trevor Simeon. And then Detroit defensive 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:27.160 coordinator Aaron Glenn, who reportedly will have a second interview 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.280 upcoming with the Cardinals. Now, two of those three were 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.280 former head coaches. How important is that to you in 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:37.400 the mix? Yeah, it is important to me. It doesn't 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.880 mean I'm right on that, Polly, you know, it doesn't. 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.960 I'm gonna make that really really clear. But for me, 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:47.160 I like a guy that has head coaching experience right now, 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.040 for me, if you're just asking me, Polly, there are 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.640 two guys, and it's Brian Flores and Vance Joseph. Those 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:58.920 two guys right there that I would love to see 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.480 get hired. Now, I know you can only hire one 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:04.840 of them. But take Brian Flores. I think he might 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:06.880 be the front runner. And the reason why I say 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:10.680 that for two reasons. Largely Number one is Monti assen 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.000 Forts and his relationship with Monty and they worked together 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:18.160 PAULI right back in the Patriots Organization for a lot 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.200 of years, and well at least Monty did, of course, 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.680 but they worked together in the Patriot Organization, and you know, 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.040 so I like that exposure to each other. Maybe they've 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.880 got a little bit of Billicheck in him in regard 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:34.199 to the synergy and how Bill thinks. So I like that, 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:39.000 And also too, I would say the outsider, the outsider 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.920 approach of bringing in up Brian Flores where he really 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:47.680 doesn't know Kyler Murray on a professional level, where they're 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:51.520 working day in and day out together, I think somebody 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:55.280 outside the organization has a better chance of producing real 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:59.080 change in this offense with Kyler Murray. Of course, at 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.080 the helm I could be wrong on that, Paulie. But 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:06.439 I think the familiarity with Vance Joseph in the season 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.960 that was twenty twenty two actually works against fans and 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:14.760 that sucks. Buttermilk, it's not fair. It isn't but it's 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.320 a reality. I think it is. I get it. You 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.000 know you're guilty by association in a lot of ways 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.719 with a four and thirteen campaign. I'll just say this 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.199 in regards to Vance Joseph, if you're looking for someone 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:31.920 with immediate inside knowledge, yes, of where the solutions are 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.680 and where the problems are and maybe which players fit 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:39.320 under either category heading, Vance Joseph knows as well as anyone. Yes, 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:43.000 he comes in with that competitive advantage. Now, whether he's 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.120 too Pollie, I just want to jump in. You know 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:50.920 who knows that best is the Arizona Cardinals, the organization 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:54.720 and Michael Michael Bidwell of course, and they know that best. 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.160 What is going to work with Kyler? Is it gonna 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.199 be maybe somebody I'm not saying they're just going to 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.920 do it because it's somebody from the outside, but is 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.319 it going to be somebody from the outside or somebody 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:10.920 from the within that they already know Kyler Murray? Interesting question. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.520 I'm just guessing that when you held the interview with 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.320 Vance Joseph, it was probably a lot more advanced and 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.480 detailed about the state of the team and the roster, yeah, 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.199 and what he would do and who would stay and 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.400 who would go than any other candidate, just because he 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.839 has such an internal knowledge from the past four years. 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.840 The other thing that we don't know what might separate 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.880 every one of these candidates is who's the coordinator they're 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.280 bringing with him. If you're a defensive guy like Brian 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.240 Floores Advanced Joseph, who's your rose that could be a 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.760 deciding factor obviously, just like one of these defensive guys, 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.920 you know, are offensive guy with their defensive coordinator. Hey, 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.600 it's episode fifty five of The Day Pash Podcast, featuring 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:50.199 actor and comedian Frank Caliando. I laughed just thinking about it. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.199 It's a great listen be its wit er find it 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.920 at Pashpod. Drew stand former Cardinals quarterback, next on The 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:03.360 Big Red Rage. I feel like the experiences that I've 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.360 had at the three organizations that I've been with, I'm 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.320 going to take pieces from each of those organizations. Things 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.680 that I've learned, things that I liked processes that I'll keep, 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.280 but I'm also going to put my own spin on them. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:19.160 This is not a wastrius and repeat of someplace else. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.600 What works in one building is not just easily transferable 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.480 to another building, but there are foundational elements that can 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.959 be taken from each of those buildings and has helped 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.719 form who I am. And that's what I'm going to 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.600 bring here to this organization as we continue this move 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.960 to make the football operations the way we want them 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:42.040 to run. As new GM Monte Austin Ford searching for 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.880 a new head coach, the most definitely will be a 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:50.199 new roster and will sometime soon, at least according to Fox, 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.800 There'll be a new number one analyst in the booth, 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:57.520 earning three hundred and seventy five million dollars over ten years. 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.520 That would have clips the three hundred thirty three million 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.160 he made during his twenty three year playing career. Those 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.880 are the contract numbers of Tom Brady. Of course, Tony 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:10.000 Romo earns ten years, one hundred eighty million with CBS. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.000 I'm just throw that out there because you know, at 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.000 some point, maybe in the future, the two of us 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.120 will be saying, you know, once upon a time we 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.920 were on Cardinals broadcasts with former Cardinals quarterback Drew Stanton, 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.079 who's now earning the big money in a big booth 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.800 somewhere on network TV. But that is in the future. 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.080 For now, it is the Big Red Rage presented by 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.760 Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul KLBC, Ron Wolfley and Drew Stanton, 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.400 who does or does not have designs on trying to 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.280 go ahead and pursue network TV at some point, Drew, 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:42.000 what is your future career path? That's a great question. 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.520 If there's any correlation between their playing careers how much 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:47.560 money they made, then I'm probably gonna have to go 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:51.920 a different direction than those guys. So, you know, I've 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.760 enjoyed being a part of the Cardinals broadcasting team. It's 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:56.880 been great to be able to spend time with you 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.400 guys and see it from a different lens. And the 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.360 thing that's been most exciting for me is kind of 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.560 being able to be an analyst from the standpoint of 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.280 educating from a player's perspective. Not that Wolf doesn't do 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.080 a good job of that, We just, you know, sometimes 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.800 the varying viewpoints. No, that is honestly, it's a great 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:17.079 answer by you and it's a great observation as well. 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.880 Speaking of observing, what about the coaching search that is 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.800 going on right now, whether Arizona Cardinals. What is your 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:30.360 general overall thoughts on what is happening right now? Drew, Well, 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:32.600 you know we talked about it on the Red Sea Report. 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.400 They wanted to cast a wide net and they needed 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.880 to be able to do it and get a general 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.640 manager in place. And as we heard Monteasinfort talk about, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.280 he is going to be a product of his experiences 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.720 that he's been. He's bet in some great places. It's 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.280 all about collaboration, right. You have to have a leader, 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.800 but then you have to be able to take feedback. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.160 You've got to be able to take criticism, and there's 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.400 going to be errors along the way. You have to 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.160 be able to correct those errors. You've got to get 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.120 on the same page and you've got to find a 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.120 head coach with the same vision as you. And it 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.320 doesn't necessarily have to be an exits and os guy. 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:06.040 It's got to be a guy that's going to stand 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.480 up in front of the room, commander room, be a 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.920 leader of men that can motivate guys, can connect with 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:15.280 all guys on the roster in the building. You know, 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.560 the gate head coaches that I've been around, they do 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.840 it a lot of different ways, and there's no two 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:22.760 ways that you have to do it. You just have 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:26.320 to authentically be yourself. And they're coming into a situation, well, look, 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.040 you've got to get the most out of a franchise 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.240 quarterback that's coming off of an injury. You've got some 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.080 pieces in place, but there's also a ton of question marks. 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.040 Drew to what degree does the team take on the 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:41.400 identity of its head coach? Oh, I think completely right. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.320 I mean, look, the most exposure that we have when 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.320 we are in season, and Wolf can attest to this 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:49.880 is the men in that locker room, and it's the 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.080 people that you're around and all these things. And look, 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.280 if there's a great culture that exists and people are 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.080 excited to go to work and you are looking at 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.800 your head coach and he's empowering you, pushing you and 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.000 doing all the things that you need to do throughout 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.800 the course of a grueling season, you're going to be 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.560 better off for it. And then you're going to come 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.920 together and every year is different. No two years are 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.160 the same in the NFL. I mean, you can look 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.000 down in Jacksonville, right, you see urban Meyer, a college 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.680 coach that doesn't really fit Boom. You insert a very 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.920 similar roster with a completely different human being as a 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.520 head coach, and he'd instilled confidence them. He was a 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.520 whole different shift culturally in one season, which it's possible 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.320 you've seen this occur. But at the same time, you 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.320 have to have conviction of the head coach. You have 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.880 to have things that you're going to stand on and 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:41.160 a foundation, much like Bruce arians of trust, loyalty, and respect. Right, 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.080 those were words that meant something to us. That's what 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.280 we took on of trusting the person next to you, 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:50.200 respecting your teammates, respecting the game, respecting all of these things. 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.400 And you've got to be able to trust the process 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.880 that it's going to take to get there, because sometimes 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:56.720 it's not going to be pretty, it's not going to 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.080 be easy. But it's a group of men. That's the 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.440 band of brothers. They came together through thick and thin 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.600 that when it comes time to be able to rely 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.920 on them, you know, without a shadow of a doubt 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.520 the person next to you is in the flight with you. 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.760 Really don't want to drive this into the ground at all. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:16.440 But where were you on the Sean Payton um search 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.000 and whether or not Sean Payton was going to be 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.800 the next head coach for the Arizona Cardinals And where 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:25.600 would you like to see the Cardinals go after Sean Payton? 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.480 Are you referencing when I stuck my split in my 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.920 mouth on Tuesday and said Sean Payton only wanted the 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:34.880 Dallas job. It did, Paul, I didn't know. I didn't know, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.440 but I love them. I am smiling because we were 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.680 both wrong, Drew, So there you go, Yeah, yeah, you know, right. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.840 So and anyways, Uh, that's the thing with the owners. 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.160 They have the ability to write these these checks that 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.600 they can cash, so they went out and got Sean Payton. 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:53.840 I think he would have been a tremendous higher here, right. 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:55.960 I think that when you look at a head coach, 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.040 there's a certain set of requirements and when you look 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.920 at the offensive court, it is a completely different set 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.560 of circumstances. He is the one unique person that I 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.960 think can do both of those jobs extremely well. And 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.600 it's hard to find the balance to be able to 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:13.879 manage a game. And when we saw it firsthand with Cliff, 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.159 it's really hard to be able to do both of 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.880 those extremely well at a high level in a high 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.360 press or situation and make a split second decision and 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:25.120 have it be right or have it not. The second 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.160 guest by everybody. So Sean Payton is a lead from 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.800 the standpoint of the personnelity he puts on the field, 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.560 how comfortable he makes the quarterback. He is going to 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.280 find what your weaknesses and he's going to expose it. 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.159 If he needs to run the ball forty times, if 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.639 he needs to throw the ball forty times, or be 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.200 completely balanced, he has the capability to disperse the ball 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.040 and do so many things and create mismatches. And that's 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.439 really what you're looking for. Offensively, you want to be 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.840 the aggressor. Sean has done that, but he's done it 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.600 masterfully as far as having control of an entire organization. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:58.399 I mean, that's why they were just so good for 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.280 so long and why he was so highly sought after. 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.800 So you know, it's unfortunate that they couldn't get it 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.320 done here. He is going to have success wherever he goes. 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.600 I firmly believe that. But you look at what's here, 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:14.240 what's now, and again, what needs to be done as 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.199 far as this organization, and Manti Asenfort is going to 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.639 put his stamp on it and hire the person he 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.520 thinks is best fit to be able to take this 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:26.000 nucleus and build, as he said, not just for next year, 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:29.560 but an organization that has sustainable success. Last question on 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.240 the head coaching search, it's Drew Stand on the Big 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.320 Red Rage present of by santan Ford and Gilbert first 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.920 time head coach versus an experienced head coach. How big 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.679 a deal is that to you? Vance, Joseph, Brian Flores, 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:44.280 former head coaches, you know, candidates like today's INTERVIEWEE Brian 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.320 Callahan yesterday Lou and Rumo. You know, if you have 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.920 Aaron Glenn coming in reportedly for a second interview, those 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.119 guys would be first time head coaches. How big a 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.639 deal do you think that is? Demanti Asenfort, You know, 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.960 that's a great question. I don't think it necessarily is 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.080 a requirement to have head coaching experience. I think sometimes 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.560 the perception of ben there, done that, or some of 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.159 these guys that haven't had success. Can they learn from 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.280 their failures? Can they make those corrections to the errors 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.720 that maybe transpired to them getting fired? In the first place. 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.760 I think again it comes down to is there a 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.520 plan in place that people feel comfortable about, and then 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.119 you know that plan is going to have to adjust overtime. 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.159 It's going to have to adapt throughout the course of 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.639 a season between roster manipulation and all of these things 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.520 of what that initial vision is going to be. And 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.720 I honestly think that so many NFL organizations are trying 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:37.200 to get ahead of the curve. That's why we saw 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.560 the Sean mcvayh's of the world get hired so young 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:43.479 and have success, because it doesn't have to have a 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.000 direct correlation between experience and all of this stuff. I 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:49.080 remember talking with a coach when I was in the 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.040 NFL and play, and you know, he always referred to 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.359 the number of years that he had in the NFL coaching, 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:56.320 and I was like, that doesn't automatically make you a 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.440 coach just based off of that. You know, thirty years 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.240 of bad she can still be thirty years of bad coaching. 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:06.359 So I say that in reference to young guys that 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.199 are energized and can come in there and have an 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:12.679 infectious personality. I think there's pros and cons to experience 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:16.480 or also again based off of what was at their disposal. 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.760 Some of these head coaches that are younger, you know, 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.160 might have been handcuffed their first time around, I might 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:24.600 not have had the opportunity to really put their imprint 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.520 on it. And so again, I think it's more about 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:31.160 the candidate really than looking at does he have head 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.680 coaching experience? So drew in terms of the free agents 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.320 that the Arizona Cardinals have on their team unrestricted free 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.960 agents and who you would like to see them bring back, 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:45.240 thinking of Zach Allen and Byron Murphy and Kelvin Beecham 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:49.200 and Will Hernandez in particular, where do you start when 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.479 you look at those four guys in particular, and what 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:56.000 do you think about bringing them back? Yeah, look, I 0:20:56.040 --> 0:21:00.040 think they've been great contributors and any team that I 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.120 been a part of and any team that was any good, 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.240 and you look at even now the super Bowl teams, 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:06.360 you've got to be able to win in the trenches. 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:08.800 And that's again I've got an easy cop out answer 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.600 from a quarterbacks perspective, but I would make an effort 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.920 to look at the consistency that you got out of 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.359 Calibm Beacham this year and started as many games as 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:18.520 he did well. Hernandez was on a one year deal. 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:20.920 I would love to bring those guys back to keep 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:24.480 some continuity. Byron Murphy had a back injury, couldn't play, 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:27.040