1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead, 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: he got jacked. This is the big red Rail presented 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: by satan Ford in Gilbert. Mary's Gonna score touchdown Slam 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Satanford? State Farm? 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm, 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Hacy Cardinals dot com, 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Slash podcasts, The Reds Rising Guard, Temperaturizing vision, blurring, rage 10 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: taking over. Here's Paul Calvci. I'm ready. I'm one hundred 11 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee, 12 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't get any better than that. Unleash the fjard, 13 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to the Arizona Cardinals head 14 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: Coaching Search two thousand and twenty three, when it comes 15 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: to casting that net far and wide. My opinion, thanks 16 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: for asking, Ron Wolfley. I don't really care about the when, 17 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: or the where or even the how. I ultimately just 18 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: care about the who and the why, and then the 19 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: who else? Who's that coach bringing along as part of 20 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: his staff. That's all I care about, because once upon 21 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: a time, the Arizona Cardinals were what they were dead 22 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: last in hiring Bruce Arians. Did that work out pretty well? 23 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Were their immediate returns on investment from that higher once 24 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: upon a time twenty thirteen, Yes, there were rhetorical question 25 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: ten years ago that was the case. So okay, we're 26 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: going to get into all this and more on this 27 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: addition to the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 28 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: and Gilbert. We are Santanford, Paul KLVCI, Ron Wolfley, and 29 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: speaking of who our big guest tonight, Drew Stanton, because 30 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: the former Cardinals quarterback and longtime NFL quarterback. I mean, 31 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: he's had first time head coaches, he's had experienced head coaches, 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: he's had offensive and defensive head coaches. He's had anybody 33 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: and everybody under the sun, and so we'll get his 34 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: thoughts and also he's had a rehab from season ending injuries. 35 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: We'll talk about Kyler and Monty and Penning free agents, 36 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: but right now we're on woefully your thoughts and just 37 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: where things stand with his head coaching search. As yet 38 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: another interview was conducted today reportedly with Brian Callahan, the 39 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals offensive coordinator. Yeah, POULI you know, for me, 40 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: I've got to start with this. I got to start 41 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray himself right now. Well, we're 42 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: talking about Sean Payton of course out there in whether 43 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: or not Sean Payton was going to be the perfect 44 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: fit to get Kyler Murray right. And we're talking about 45 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: defensive minded coaches. You know how much I like defensive 46 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: minded coaches coming in here to be the next head 47 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: coach for the Arizona Cardinals. How are they going to 48 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: impact Kyler Murray? You know it, As I've been saying 49 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: for weeks, Paully, does Kyler Murray think he's got to 50 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: get right? Does Kyler Murray think you have to answer 51 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: that question? I think first, Paully, and I think Kyler 52 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: knows that. I think this rehab is an excellent opportunity 53 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: for Kyler to come to the waters and be water, 54 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: so to speak, and allow himself to learn the game 55 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: of football all over again and recommit himself to becoming 56 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: the best que he can be. Polly, that has got 57 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: to happen first. Only then will whoever the head coach 58 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: is for the Arizona Cardinals and the next head coach. 59 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: Only then will he be able to actually improve Kyler's game. 60 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: All right, So like this week, Brian Callahan interviewed today, 61 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: reportedly former quarterback coach with the Lions and the Raiders 62 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: and obviously with Cincinnati and Lou Amarumo. He was a yesterday. 63 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: Now he's a defensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals. On Tuesday, 64 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: Mike Kafka, the offensive coordinator for the Giants, also known 65 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: as a quarterback guru. He worked with Patrick Mahomes and 66 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: look at the be foreign after this year when he 67 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: came on board with the Giants and Daniel Jones. But 68 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued. Why are you intrigued by a defensive head coach? Yeah, PAULI, 69 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: that's a great question, it really is. But largely because 70 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: of three three things. Number One, it gives that head 71 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: coach who's a defensive minded head coach. It gives separation 72 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: to Kyler Murray. I doubt he's going to be the 73 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: quarterback coach. I doubt he's going to be the offensive coordinator. 74 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: I doubt he's going to meddle in any of that. 75 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: He's basically going to be separated from a lot of 76 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: the day to day, the meeting to meeting, the practice 77 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: to practice. He's going to be separated from Kyler Murray 78 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: a lot. I like that. I think they need to 79 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: bring a guy in who is going to be a 80 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: true alpha mel He's going to be the guy. I'm 81 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: the head coach. You're the quarterback, you're the defensive tackle, 82 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: you're the offensive tackle. You guys are players. I'm the 83 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: head coach. I'm going to command this room. I'm going 84 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: to command this room. I think that's important. Polly. You 85 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: know that I'm old school. I'm not going to apologize 86 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: for being that, but I think that's the next head 87 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: coach coming in here. That's job one for him. So 88 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: a true CEO just by default, because you're a defensive 89 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 1: minded head coach, that's separate. Yeah, that's number one, Polly. 90 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: Number two, we've got young defensive players, of course on 91 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: this roster that are really really good guys like Isaiah 92 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: Simmons and Zaven Collins and Marco Wilsons and oh, by 93 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: the way, if you actually take somebody with a number 94 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: three pick overall, there's a real good chance that's going 95 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: to be a defensive player as well. Now you've got 96 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: these young guys, Polly, that you want to bring along, 97 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: and I think having a defensive minded head coach will 98 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: really benefit them. Plus, I think defense could be a 99 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: strength when you factor in improvement from Zaven Collins and 100 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons and Marco Wilson and Buddha Baker. We all 101 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: know good he is, Jalen Thompson, Zach Allen, Paul, if 102 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: you can sign Zach Allen and bring him back, and 103 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy as well, those two I think are really 104 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: critical signings bringing back this offseason as unrestricted free agents. 105 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: So I think that's number two Paulie and number three 106 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: for me. It's just the fact the defensive minded head 107 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: coach has the kind of mentality more than not, Paul 108 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: every defensive coordinator I have been around, or a defensive 109 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: minded head coach, they just have a mentality that focuses 110 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: more on the physicality of the game, and I like that. 111 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: It's a big red rage. In fact, we're gonna ask 112 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: Drew stand about some of those penning free agents next. 113 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm also going to ask him about first time head 114 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: coach versus experienced head coach, because when you look at 115 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: the list as it stands right now, with three teams 116 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: having made their hires, the Carolina Panthers going for Frank Wright, 117 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos Sean Payton, Houston Texans Demiko Ryans, and it 118 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: sounds like that's preordained from the get go, Damiko Ryan's 119 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: being a longtime team captain with the Texans, his wife 120 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: being from the Houston area. So if you look at 121 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals list, there are three prominent names who are 122 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: defensive guys. Brian Flores, former head coach in the Miami Dolphins, 123 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: who's interviewed, of course, Vance Joseph Cardinals defensive coordinator, former 124 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: head coach of the Broncos back in the day when 125 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: his quarterback was like Trevor Simeon. And then Detroit defensive 126 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: coordinator Aaron Glenn, who reportedly will have a second interview 127 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: upcoming with the Cardinals. Now, two of those three were 128 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: former head coaches. How important is that to you in 129 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: the mix? Yeah, it is important to me. It doesn't 130 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: mean I'm right on that, Polly, you know, it doesn't. 131 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make that really really clear. But for me, 132 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: I like a guy that has head coaching experience right now, 133 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: for me, if you're just asking me, Polly, there are 134 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: two guys, and it's Brian Flores and Vance Joseph. Those 135 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: two guys right there that I would love to see 136 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: get hired. Now, I know you can only hire one 137 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: of them. But take Brian Flores. I think he might 138 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: be the front runner. And the reason why I say 139 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: that for two reasons. Largely Number one is Monti assen 140 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: Forts and his relationship with Monty and they worked together 141 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: PAULI right back in the Patriots Organization for a lot 142 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: of years, and well at least Monty did, of course, 143 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: but they worked together in the Patriot Organization, and you know, 144 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: so I like that exposure to each other. Maybe they've 145 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: got a little bit of Billicheck in him in regard 146 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: to the synergy and how Bill thinks. So I like that, 147 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: And also too, I would say the outsider, the outsider 148 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: approach of bringing in up Brian Flores where he really 149 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: doesn't know Kyler Murray on a professional level, where they're 150 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: working day in and day out together, I think somebody 151 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: outside the organization has a better chance of producing real 152 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: change in this offense with Kyler Murray. Of course, at 153 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: the helm I could be wrong on that, Paulie. But 154 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: I think the familiarity with Vance Joseph in the season 155 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: that was twenty twenty two actually works against fans and 156 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: that sucks. Buttermilk, it's not fair. It isn't but it's 157 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: a reality. I think it is. I get it. You 158 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: know you're guilty by association in a lot of ways 159 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: with a four and thirteen campaign. I'll just say this 160 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: in regards to Vance Joseph, if you're looking for someone 161 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: with immediate inside knowledge, yes, of where the solutions are 162 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: and where the problems are and maybe which players fit 163 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: under either category heading, Vance Joseph knows as well as anyone. Yes, 164 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: he comes in with that competitive advantage. Now, whether he's 165 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: too Pollie, I just want to jump in. You know 166 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: who knows that best is the Arizona Cardinals, the organization 167 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: and Michael Michael Bidwell of course, and they know that best. 168 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: What is going to work with Kyler? Is it gonna 169 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: be maybe somebody I'm not saying they're just going to 170 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: do it because it's somebody from the outside, but is 171 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: it going to be somebody from the outside or somebody 172 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: from the within that they already know Kyler Murray? Interesting question. 173 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm just guessing that when you held the interview with 174 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph, it was probably a lot more advanced and 175 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: detailed about the state of the team and the roster, yeah, 176 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: and what he would do and who would stay and 177 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: who would go than any other candidate, just because he 178 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: has such an internal knowledge from the past four years. 179 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: The other thing that we don't know what might separate 180 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: every one of these candidates is who's the coordinator they're 181 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: bringing with him. If you're a defensive guy like Brian 182 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: Floores Advanced Joseph, who's your rose that could be a 183 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: deciding factor obviously, just like one of these defensive guys, 184 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, are offensive guy with their defensive coordinator. Hey, 185 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: it's episode fifty five of The Day Pash Podcast, featuring 186 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: actor and comedian Frank Caliando. I laughed just thinking about it. 187 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: It's a great listen be its wit er find it 188 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: at Pashpod. Drew stand former Cardinals quarterback, next on The 189 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage. I feel like the experiences that I've 190 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: had at the three organizations that I've been with, I'm 191 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: going to take pieces from each of those organizations. Things 192 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: that I've learned, things that I liked processes that I'll keep, 193 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: but I'm also going to put my own spin on them. 194 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: This is not a wastrius and repeat of someplace else. 195 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: What works in one building is not just easily transferable 196 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: to another building, but there are foundational elements that can 197 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: be taken from each of those buildings and has helped 198 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: form who I am. And that's what I'm going to 199 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: bring here to this organization as we continue this move 200 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: to make the football operations the way we want them 201 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: to run. As new GM Monte Austin Ford searching for 202 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: a new head coach, the most definitely will be a 203 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: new roster and will sometime soon, at least according to Fox, 204 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: There'll be a new number one analyst in the booth, 205 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: earning three hundred and seventy five million dollars over ten years. 206 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: That would have clips the three hundred thirty three million 207 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: he made during his twenty three year playing career. Those 208 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: are the contract numbers of Tom Brady. Of course, Tony 209 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: Romo earns ten years, one hundred eighty million with CBS. 210 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm just throw that out there because you know, at 211 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: some point, maybe in the future, the two of us 212 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: will be saying, you know, once upon a time we 213 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: were on Cardinals broadcasts with former Cardinals quarterback Drew Stanton, 214 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: who's now earning the big money in a big booth 215 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: somewhere on network TV. But that is in the future. 216 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: For now, it is the Big Red Rage presented by 217 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul KLBC, Ron Wolfley and Drew Stanton, 218 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: who does or does not have designs on trying to 219 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: go ahead and pursue network TV at some point, Drew, 220 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: what is your future career path? That's a great question. 221 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: If there's any correlation between their playing careers how much 222 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: money they made, then I'm probably gonna have to go 223 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: a different direction than those guys. So, you know, I've 224 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: enjoyed being a part of the Cardinals broadcasting team. It's 225 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: been great to be able to spend time with you 226 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: guys and see it from a different lens. And the 227 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: thing that's been most exciting for me is kind of 228 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: being able to be an analyst from the standpoint of 229 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: educating from a player's perspective. Not that Wolf doesn't do 230 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: a good job of that, We just, you know, sometimes 231 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: the varying viewpoints. No, that is honestly, it's a great 232 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: answer by you and it's a great observation as well. 233 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: Speaking of observing, what about the coaching search that is 234 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: going on right now, whether Arizona Cardinals. What is your 235 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: general overall thoughts on what is happening right now? Drew, Well, 236 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: you know we talked about it on the Red Sea Report. 237 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: They wanted to cast a wide net and they needed 238 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: to be able to do it and get a general 239 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: manager in place. And as we heard Monteasinfort talk about, 240 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: he is going to be a product of his experiences 241 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: that he's been. He's bet in some great places. It's 242 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: all about collaboration, right. You have to have a leader, 243 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: but then you have to be able to take feedback. 244 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: You've got to be able to take criticism, and there's 245 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: going to be errors along the way. You have to 246 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: be able to correct those errors. You've got to get 247 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: on the same page and you've got to find a 248 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: head coach with the same vision as you. And it 249 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have to be an exits and os guy. 250 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: It's got to be a guy that's going to stand 251 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: up in front of the room, commander room, be a 252 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: leader of men that can motivate guys, can connect with 253 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: all guys on the roster in the building. You know, 254 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: the gate head coaches that I've been around, they do 255 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: it a lot of different ways, and there's no two 256 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: ways that you have to do it. You just have 257 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: to authentically be yourself. And they're coming into a situation, well, look, 258 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: you've got to get the most out of a franchise 259 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: quarterback that's coming off of an injury. You've got some 260 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: pieces in place, but there's also a ton of question marks. 261 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: Drew to what degree does the team take on the 262 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: identity of its head coach? Oh, I think completely right. 263 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the most exposure that we have when 264 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: we are in season, and Wolf can attest to this 265 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: is the men in that locker room, and it's the 266 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: people that you're around and all these things. And look, 267 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: if there's a great culture that exists and people are 268 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: excited to go to work and you are looking at 269 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: your head coach and he's empowering you, pushing you and 270 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: doing all the things that you need to do throughout 271 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: the course of a grueling season, you're going to be 272 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: better off for it. And then you're going to come 273 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: together and every year is different. No two years are 274 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: the same in the NFL. I mean, you can look 275 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: down in Jacksonville, right, you see urban Meyer, a college 276 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: coach that doesn't really fit Boom. You insert a very 277 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: similar roster with a completely different human being as a 278 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: head coach, and he'd instilled confidence them. He was a 279 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: whole different shift culturally in one season, which it's possible 280 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: you've seen this occur. But at the same time, you 281 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: have to have conviction of the head coach. You have 282 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: to have things that you're going to stand on and 283 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: a foundation, much like Bruce arians of trust, loyalty, and respect. Right, 284 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: those were words that meant something to us. That's what 285 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: we took on of trusting the person next to you, 286 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: respecting your teammates, respecting the game, respecting all of these things. 287 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: And you've got to be able to trust the process 288 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: that it's going to take to get there, because sometimes 289 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: it's not going to be pretty, it's not going to 290 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: be easy. But it's a group of men. That's the 291 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: band of brothers. They came together through thick and thin 292 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: that when it comes time to be able to rely 293 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: on them, you know, without a shadow of a doubt 294 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: the person next to you is in the flight with you. 295 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: Really don't want to drive this into the ground at all. 296 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: But where were you on the Sean Payton um search 297 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: and whether or not Sean Payton was going to be 298 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: the next head coach for the Arizona Cardinals And where 299 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: would you like to see the Cardinals go after Sean Payton? 300 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: Are you referencing when I stuck my split in my 301 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: mouth on Tuesday and said Sean Payton only wanted the 302 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: Dallas job. It did, Paul, I didn't know. I didn't know, 303 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: but I love them. I am smiling because we were 304 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: both wrong, Drew, So there you go, Yeah, yeah, you know, right. 305 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: So and anyways, Uh, that's the thing with the owners. 306 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: They have the ability to write these these checks that 307 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: they can cash, so they went out and got Sean Payton. 308 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: I think he would have been a tremendous higher here, right. 309 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: I think that when you look at a head coach, 310 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: there's a certain set of requirements and when you look 311 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: at the offensive court, it is a completely different set 312 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: of circumstances. He is the one unique person that I 313 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: think can do both of those jobs extremely well. And 314 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: it's hard to find the balance to be able to 315 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: manage a game. And when we saw it firsthand with Cliff, 316 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: it's really hard to be able to do both of 317 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: those extremely well at a high level in a high 318 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: press or situation and make a split second decision and 319 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: have it be right or have it not. The second 320 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: guest by everybody. So Sean Payton is a lead from 321 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: the standpoint of the personnelity he puts on the field, 322 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: how comfortable he makes the quarterback. He is going to 323 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: find what your weaknesses and he's going to expose it. 324 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: If he needs to run the ball forty times, if 325 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: he needs to throw the ball forty times, or be 326 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: completely balanced, he has the capability to disperse the ball 327 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: and do so many things and create mismatches. And that's 328 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: really what you're looking for. Offensively, you want to be 329 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: the aggressor. Sean has done that, but he's done it 330 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: masterfully as far as having control of an entire organization. 331 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why they were just so good for 332 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: so long and why he was so highly sought after. 333 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: So you know, it's unfortunate that they couldn't get it 334 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: done here. He is going to have success wherever he goes. 335 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: I firmly believe that. But you look at what's here, 336 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: what's now, and again, what needs to be done as 337 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: far as this organization, and Manti Asenfort is going to 338 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: put his stamp on it and hire the person he 339 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: thinks is best fit to be able to take this 340 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: nucleus and build, as he said, not just for next year, 341 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: but an organization that has sustainable success. Last question on 342 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: the head coaching search, it's Drew Stand on the Big 343 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: Red Rage present of by santan Ford and Gilbert first 344 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: time head coach versus an experienced head coach. How big 345 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: a deal is that to you? Vance, Joseph, Brian Flores, 346 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: former head coaches, you know, candidates like today's INTERVIEWEE Brian 347 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: Callahan yesterday Lou and Rumo. You know, if you have 348 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn coming in reportedly for a second interview, those 349 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: guys would be first time head coaches. How big a 350 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: deal do you think that is? Demanti Asenfort, You know, 351 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: that's a great question. I don't think it necessarily is 352 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: a requirement to have head coaching experience. I think sometimes 353 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: the perception of ben there, done that, or some of 354 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: these guys that haven't had success. Can they learn from 355 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: their failures? Can they make those corrections to the errors 356 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: that maybe transpired to them getting fired? In the first place. 357 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: I think again it comes down to is there a 358 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: plan in place that people feel comfortable about, and then 359 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: you know that plan is going to have to adjust overtime. 360 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: It's going to have to adapt throughout the course of 361 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: a season between roster manipulation and all of these things 362 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: of what that initial vision is going to be. And 363 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: I honestly think that so many NFL organizations are trying 364 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: to get ahead of the curve. That's why we saw 365 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: the Sean mcvayh's of the world get hired so young 366 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: and have success, because it doesn't have to have a 367 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: direct correlation between experience and all of this stuff. I 368 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: remember talking with a coach when I was in the 369 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: NFL and play, and you know, he always referred to 370 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: the number of years that he had in the NFL coaching, 371 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, that doesn't automatically make you a 372 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: coach just based off of that. You know, thirty years 373 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: of bad she can still be thirty years of bad coaching. 374 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: So I say that in reference to young guys that 375 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: are energized and can come in there and have an 376 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: infectious personality. I think there's pros and cons to experience 377 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: or also again based off of what was at their disposal. 378 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: Some of these head coaches that are younger, you know, 379 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: might have been handcuffed their first time around, I might 380 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: not have had the opportunity to really put their imprint 381 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: on it. And so again, I think it's more about 382 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: the candidate really than looking at does he have head 383 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: coaching experience? So drew in terms of the free agents 384 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: that the Arizona Cardinals have on their team unrestricted free 385 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: agents and who you would like to see them bring back, 386 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: thinking of Zach Allen and Byron Murphy and Kelvin Beecham 387 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: and Will Hernandez in particular, where do you start when 388 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 1: you look at those four guys in particular, and what 389 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: do you think about bringing them back? Yeah, look, I 390 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: think they've been great contributors and any team that I 391 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: been a part of and any team that was any good, 392 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: and you look at even now the super Bowl teams, 393 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to win in the trenches. 394 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: And that's again I've got an easy cop out answer 395 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: from a quarterbacks perspective, but I would make an effort 396 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: to look at the consistency that you got out of 397 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: Calibm Beacham this year and started as many games as 398 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: he did well. Hernandez was on a one year deal. 399 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: I would love to bring those guys back to keep 400 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: some continuity. Byron Murphy had a back injury, couldn't play, 401 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: but was playing at a high level, trying to earn 402 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 1: that second contract. And again, Zach Allen has just taken 403 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: off every year he's gotten better healthy. He had a 404 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: tremendous year. The problem is always going to be, you know, 405 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: the salary cap. But if you can find a way 406 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: to get those four guys back in the building, it's 407 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: going to be a huge asset again of just the 408 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: familiarity of what it means and the pride that it 409 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: takes to be a part of this organization. Right super Bowl. Look, 410 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: we could get into, you know, a lot of different angles. 411 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: Let me ask you one specific from a quarterback perspective, 412 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: from the perspective of Jail and Hurts and that offensive 413 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: staff with the Eagles, Kansas City runs out there, three 414 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: rookie corners and a rookie safety who are regulars. Why 415 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: hasn't anyone really been able to expose that yet? And 416 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: do you think the Eagles will? Well, I think that 417 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: it's tough to expose because they get after the quarterback, right, 418 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: it's hard to throw the ball when you're on your back. 419 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: And you know, as much as Spags wants to pressure you, 420 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: as the defensive coordinator, who's going to come and bring 421 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: different looks and do all these things. And I'm just 422 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: so curious to see if one of these teams can 423 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: jump out to a lead, because both of them have 424 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: shown capability of jumping on people early and never looking 425 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: back and being able to do these things. And these 426 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: are two dynamic quarterbacks, two quarterbacks that obviously are at 427 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: the top of what it takes to be elite in 428 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: the MVP race for this year, and it's going to 429 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: be extremely difficult. At the same time, I think with 430 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: the background that they have and the experience they've had. 431 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: Now again, these rookies are coming in so prepared. It's 432 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: not like you know, back in the when you might 433 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: not know what's going on or any of these things. 434 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: And look, they're also if you're bringing a bunch of pressure, 435 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: then you're gonna be playing man demand. And all you 436 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: gotta do when you're playing man demand is guard the 437 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: guy across from you. Now, the guys across from them 438 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl just so happened to be all 439 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: the variations of Batman, and so you've got to deal 440 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: with a j. Brown and DeVante Smith and Quez Walking. 441 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: They are a dynamic group and that is what makes 442 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: them so difficult to defend, is they have the capability 443 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: to disperse the ball to so many different people that 444 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: every single guy on that defense is going to have 445 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: to be able to cover down. They're gonna have to 446 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: be able to hold their own and they do it 447 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: through different looks. They try to disguise. They'll put safeties 448 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: over the top and double people, but there's only so 449 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: many guys you can double when you are out there 450 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: on a football field, and quarterbacks are capable of finding 451 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: those one on one matchups. And then you also throw 452 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard into the mix and it's like, okay, they've 453 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: got a very good tight end. Not quite as good 454 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: as Jason Travis Kelsey at this point, but again, the 455 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: amount of star power on each of these offenses is 456 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: just tremendous and it's going to be so much fun 457 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: to watch the Super Bowl. So when you think of 458 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in this Super Bowl, and you said quarterbacks 459 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: an awful lot there, Drew being part of the quarterback club. 460 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: So I understand that. But my friend, when you look 461 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: at this, when you look at Jalen Hurts and Pat Mahomes, 462 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: of course, what are your first thoughts on the quarterback 463 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: matchup in the Super Bowl. Well, I think the first 464 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: thing is is you look at Patrick Mahomes and I 465 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: am just completely enamored with what he's been able to 466 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: accover and I really think you go back to the beginning. 467 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we were all unfortunately witnessed that game one 468 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: against the Arizona car. He came into this season on 469 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: a mission. I think he had enough talk of Joe 470 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: Burrow and Josh Allen and everybody else about how all 471 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks are so elite, and he didn't do 472 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: anything except for put his head down and just go 473 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: to work. He just worked, and you can see there's 474 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: a different tone, there's a different demeanor, there's a different 475 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: pep in his step. That though he's accomplished a lot 476 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: and they've hosted five straight AFC Championship games, he realizes, Hey, 477 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: our windows wide open right now. Much like Joe Burrow 478 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: talked about, these guys have to be able to capitalize. 479 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: And then you look at somebody across from him, and 480 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: Jalen hurts that just methodically has just taken his time. Again, 481 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: that has taken a lot of hardship, is dealt with 482 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: trial as well of okay, well he got bets for 483 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: two and then you know, had to sit out and 484 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: then all of these things. Second round pick just getting 485 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: a chance to biden his time, but then when the 486 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: time comes, he makes the most of it. And again 487 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: it's just this the persona of these guys, and that's 488 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: really what these teams take on, right. You look at 489 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: what they're able to do with the number one Seeds, 490 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: and these quarterbacks are the leaders, the unquestionable leaders in 491 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: that locker room, and you see that personality carry over 492 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: to everybody. And when his play needs to be made, 493 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: they're looking at these guys to make it. There's no 494 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: question in their mind that either one of them are 495 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: able to go out there and win a football game 496 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: for you. So again, this is exactly what the NFL wants. 497 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: Two number one seeds, a marquee matchup, two unbelievable quarterbacks, 498 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: two phenomenal teams. Right, and I think you look at 499 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: all of the storylines that go into it, between Sirianni 500 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: being in Kansas City, and then obviously Andy Reid being 501 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia for as long as he was. It is 502 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: the hype is going to be real and it's going 503 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 1: to be an exciting game. Yeah, it's first team All 504 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: Pro against second team All Pro and Patrick Mahomes against 505 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. All right, down the stretch we come with 506 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: Drew stan former Cardinals quarterback. Let's run the no huddle here, 507 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: Drew a quick response, rapid fire on three quarterback questions? 508 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: Number one? Do you believe your former Tampa teammate Tom 509 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: Brady is retired? Done? You think he's done with his 510 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: NFL playing days? Yes? Okay, all right, good Aaron Rodgers? 511 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: Do you think he's done in Green Bay? Does he 512 00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: play at Lambeau or elsewhere? Next year? Green Bay and 513 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: the Niners quarterback situation, Trey Lance or Brock Purty, where 514 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: do you think they end up going when it's all 515 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: said and done, when they're all both healthy? Oh? I 516 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: think I think they'll both be in San Francisco. Really? WHOA, 517 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: it's affordable, right? I mean Brock Purty as the last 518 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: pick of the draft and you traded three first round 519 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: picks or Trey Lance, So I'm guessing you're not going 520 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: to get nearly that much if you trade him away, 521 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, you're probably And that might be why Tom 522 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: Brady retired because he realized the Niners aren't going to 523 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: bring him into his former hometown team. Maybe just maybe, yeah, 524 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: or twenty three years, there's plenty of that's true. And 525 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: an he has ten years, three hundred and seventy five 526 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: million awaiting him as become full circles, So that could 527 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: be it. Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, Drew, thank you 528 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: as always, we appreciate the insight. And uh and and 529 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: you know what I tell you. You look at this, uh, 530 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: you look at this super Bowl coming up should be 531 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: a good one. The last NFL MVP to win a 532 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And I bring that up because Patrick Mahomes 533 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: and Jamalin Hurts are both among the five finalists for 534 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: the award. Would you care to guess there's a Cardinals 535 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: connection to the last guy to win NFL MVP and 536 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in the same season, Ron Wolfley, Drew Stantard, 537 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 1: there is a big picture of him. I'm staring at 538 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: right now. Number thirteen. Kurt Warner nineteen ninety nine, the 539 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: last regular season MVP and super Bowl winner in NFL history. Drew, 540 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: thank you appreciate it. Of course I always did a 541 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: document he gets Drew. There you go, Drew Stanton on 542 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert 543 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: We are santan Ford. More on the Chiefs. Do you 544 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: hear what Travis Kelsey said about the key to a 545 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: team that is in its third Super Bowl in four years? 546 00:28:53,920 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: That is next on the Big Red Rage and over 547 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: the champions City Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl 548 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: for the third time in four years. The Chiefs win 549 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship and get revenge against the Bengals twenty 550 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: three to twenty The final arrowhead it'll be the Chiefs 551 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: and the Eagles in Super Bowl fifty seven. Right here 552 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: in the az I in Eagle Westwood won. That was 553 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: the final call the AFC Championship as the Chiefs beat 554 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: the Bengals and they advanced to Super Bowl. Sunday, February twelfth, 555 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: Paul KALVC Ron Wolfley The Big Red Rage presented by 556 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: santan Ford in Gilbert, we Are santan Ford. Funny how 557 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: the last two teams standing wolf are elite when it 558 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: comes to the quarterback and getting to the quarterback. Funny 559 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: how that works, right, Yeah, now you're right about that, Paul. 560 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: Yet it maybe the team that runs the ball the 561 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 1: best in this Super Bowl that ends up winning the game, right, 562 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, if you're asking me for my 563 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: key to the game, you know, you know what, I'm 564 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: gonna save that for a little bit later. I'm just 565 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: gonna say this. You know, you look at the Cardinals 566 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: and obviously in special thanks to Drew Standon and that 567 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: was some great stuff talking about the head coaching search 568 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: and beyond. But look at the two rosters, look at 569 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: the talent both sides have just piled up, right, both gms. 570 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: In fact, Travis Kelsey and we talked about this with Drew. 571 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: Here's the quote I was talking about. When Travis Kelsey 572 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: was asked about this success of a Chiefs team that's 573 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: been to five straight AFC Championships that's in the Super 574 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: Bowl for the third time in four years. His quote was, 575 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever heard of a guy 576 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: named Brett Veach who's the Chiefs GM, but he has 577 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: brought in some amazing talent, says Travis Kelsey. He put 578 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: this team together where the best team in the AFC 579 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: because of what he's been able to do on top 580 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: of what these coaches have been able to do in 581 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: terms of teaching these guys how to make plays. And 582 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: at the end of that game, there were rookies everywhere 583 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: for Kansas City making places in the secondary on the 584 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: punt return by sky More, the seventh round rookie running 585 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: back Isaiah Pacheco, who's running back one right Now, you 586 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: know they were able to lose talent but add talent 587 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: via the draft, and it just shows you if you 588 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: get that element of it right, you can be competitive 589 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: right away. Now, You're right, Polly, that you can be competitive. 590 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: We see it all the time in the National Football League. 591 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: We see the worst to first. It's across the league. 592 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: That's something that I think is well established. We see 593 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: teams go from first to worse as a matter of fact. 594 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of movement that can happen, of 595 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: course in the National Football League. This game, this game, 596 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: I think is going to be a great matchup. I 597 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: hope it doesn't turn into a shootout, but I kind 598 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: of feel like it will, Paul, really, okay, I do. 599 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like it will. When you've got 600 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Of course in the Kansas City Chiefs. You're 601 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: talking about the number one team in the National Football 602 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: League in terms of scoring points, the Kansas City chief Right, 603 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna score points, and so is the Philadelphia Eagles. 604 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, this is going to be a shootout. 605 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: The quarterback that protects the ball, of course, and the 606 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: offensive line that protects the quarterback. I think that is 607 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: going to be the key going forward. What's one of 608 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: the ways you can actually protect that quarterback? You line 609 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: up and you run the ball. Can the Kansas City 610 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: Chiefs remain balanced enough to knock it one dimensional in 611 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: this game? Because the Eagles pass rush is no joke. 612 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: The Chiefs PAULI number two in the National Football League 613 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: in terms of sacks per attempt allowed protecting Pat Mahomes. 614 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes does not get sacked, he doesn't turn the 615 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: ball over their number two in third down offense. This 616 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: is a high powered, well looped machined offensively, and the 617 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: only thing that can deral it is the pass rush 618 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: of the Philadelphia Eagles. Course, the first game of this 619 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: season regular season, we saw Patrick Mahomes in person in 620 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: the same stadium where this season will conclude State Farm Stadium, 621 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: and he couldn't have been more impressive for a regular 622 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: season debut. Three touchdown drives in the first three possessions. 623 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: What did you see in the AFC Championship with a 624 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: banged up Patrick Mahomes. How much more did your respect 625 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: grow for him in his game? You know the answer 626 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: to that, Polly. Honestly, I mean we all, we all, 627 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: I think, appreciate Patrick Mahomes, the humble guy that he is, 628 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: for being the incredible talent that he is, the great 629 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: quarterback that he is. He's body, soul, and spirit. He 630 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: really is the threefold nature of a man, Polly. I'm 631 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: going to get all metaphysical on you right here, but 632 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: it's it's the way that I believe and watch football. 633 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: I see it through the prism of body, soul and spirit. 634 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes has it all. He's got the spirit, 635 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: he's got the brain, of course, and he works at 636 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: his job and his teammates love him and respect him 637 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: because a bit he's got the guts. We all know 638 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: about the physical talent of Pat Mahomes, the arm angles, 639 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: the incredible talent that he is physically, but it's the guts. 640 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: It's the soul of Pat Mahomes and that was on 641 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: display for all to see in that AFC Championship game 642 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: on that third down where he ran out of bounds 643 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: to end the game. PAULI, I thought it was gonna 644 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be over. Two minutes and 645 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: thirty seconds and Joe Burrow has the ball on his 646 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: own six yard line, ninety four yards to go down 647 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: the field. I thought, that's it. He's gonna take him down. 648 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: This is gonna be burrow Head all over again. This 649 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: is gonna be the legend of Joe Burrow. In the 650 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: swag of Joe Burrow. The table was set, two timeouts, 651 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: go down the field in a twenty twenty game, somehow 652 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: win the game with a field goal or get it 653 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: in the end zone, either one. And it did not 654 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 1: happen for Joe Burrow. But there's Pat Mahomes suddenly getting 655 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: the opportunity, and he did it. He pulled it down 656 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: on that third and four, pulled it down, converted the 657 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: first down, then got gunned in the back. It was 658 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: the correct call. It It was definitely a personal fall 659 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: and that ended up winning the game for the Kansas 660 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: City Chiefs, going back to that stop of Joe Burrow, 661 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: that third down play that was made by Chris Jones 662 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: sacked with forty one seconds ago, because there are a 663 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of NFL experts tweeting out 664 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: the best player on the field in that game was 665 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: actually number ninety five, Chris Jones, their defensive tackle extraordinaire, 666 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: who had eight quarterback pressures. And on those eight quarterback 667 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: pressures there were three sacks, two by himself, five incompletions 668 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: and not a single positive yard generated by the Bengals 669 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 1: on the eight times he got a quarterback pressure, which 670 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: to me, will think about it last year, Super Bowl 671 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: Champion with Aaron Donald this year, how dominant Chris Jones 672 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: has been. If Jalen Carter out of Georgia is that 673 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: dude and he's on the board at number three. To me, 674 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: if you're the Arizona Cardinals, you can resist. If you 675 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: can get that sort of game wrecker on the defensive 676 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: interior defensive line, you gotta take him. Polly. I know 677 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: that free technique hits the most destructive force in the 678 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: football universe. It is very, very appealing. I just gotta 679 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: watch the tape. You gotta watch the tape and you 680 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: gotta say, does he give it every play? Is he in? 681 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: Every down? Guy? Is that? Because we've seen a three 682 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: technique that wasn't and every down guy, we have seen that. 683 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. You got to make sure the motor 684 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: is there. I will agree with you on that. Otherwise 685 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to Will Anderson. You're right, hey. The season 686 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: ticket priority listen is out there. Think about the team's 687 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: coming in the Giants, the Cowboys, the Ravens, the Falcons 688 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: and the Bengals. Godasy Cardinals dot com slash priority list 689 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 1: for more info. We talk Eagles next on The Big 690 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We got 691 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 1: the five seconds and the Eagles have been the NFC's 692 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: best team all season long Ceros on the clock, and 693 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: they will carry that momentum with big wins in the 694 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: Divisional round against the Giants and here in the Championship 695 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: contri in San Francisco all the way to Arizona and 696 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty seven. The Philadelphia Eagles are going to 697 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl again. I'm ken finishing thirty one to 698 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: seven win over San Francisco. There you go. The final 699 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: call NFC Championship Kevin Harland on Westwood One, setting up 700 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: super Bowl fifty seven right here in the az the 701 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs, in Factuvanna Holy 702 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: can only stat here you go round Wolfley on the 703 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: Big Red Race presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. You 704 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: look like you need a stat Do you know? The 705 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: team wearing the white jerseys has won fifteen of the 706 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: last eighteen Super Bowls? No way, and the Kansa City 707 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: Chiefs are gonna be wearing white and the Eagles will 708 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: be wearing their green. Oh my goodness, that, Paul, that 709 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: is crazy. It is fifteen to the last eighteen Super Bowls. 710 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: The team wearing white has hoisted the Lombardi Trophies. So 711 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: whatever you want to make out of that, all I 712 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: know is that the Philadelphia Eagles have had the easiest 713 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: path to a Super Bowl that I've seen it a 714 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: long time. As they took care of the Giants, they 715 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: routed them, Yes, they made them look bad, I get it. 716 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: But then they got a San Francisco team where they 717 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 1: knocked out the third string rookie quarterback on the first series, 718 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: dealt with a four string quarterback for about a half, 719 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: and then the Niners didn't even have a quarterback for 720 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: the rest of the second half. So you tell me, 721 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: did the Eagles not have the easiest pass you've seen 722 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: it a long time to a Super Bowl? Yeah, I'm 723 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: not going to dispute that, Polly. But at the same time, 724 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: when I think of the Philadelphia Eagles the very first place, 725 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: I begin as Jalen Hurts. So I am sorry. All 726 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: season long, I've been questioning Jalen Hurts. You know what 727 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 1: it reminds me of And it pains me to say 728 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: this right now. And I'm sure or Graybeard's gonna roll 729 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: over wherever he is getting ready. Kurt Warner. I'm just saying, Kurt. 730 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: It reminds me of Kurt in his rookie year when 731 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: he was the guy that was out there getting the opportunity. 732 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Look, Trent Green went down. Everybody. Now 733 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner comes in and the season he had and 734 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: it was week after week after this is good. This 735 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: is gonna be at right here. This is gonna be 736 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: the week where the wheels fall off for this Warner kid. 737 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: And we all know how that ended. Jalen Hurts, I 738 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: coming into this season, the biggest question mark surrounding the 739 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles was Jalen Hurts. And there's no disputing that. 740 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: Everyone knew they had a pretty good roster after that. 741 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: But Jalen Hurts, who was the question mark? How was 742 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: he gonna do? He had? He flashed the year before. 743 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: He flashed a little bit. But it wasn't like the 744 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: Eagles weren't you know. It wasn't like they weren't looking 745 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: for another possible quarterback they could bring in in the 746 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: off seat. And there was a lot of talk about that. 747 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is where I begin man for the Philadelphia Eagles. 748 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: Will this be it? Will this be the game that 749 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 1: it's too big for him? Or not? And I'm thinking 750 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 1: more and more not. He's an MVP finalists. The two 751 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: games he missed they lost. He is sixteen and one 752 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: as a starter now. But he also has arguably the 753 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 1: NFL's best offensive line, does he not? Yes? Jason Kelsey 754 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: an All Pro center, Lane Johnson an All Pro right tackle. 755 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: They're left tackle as a Pro Bowl alternate. I mean 756 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: they went out against that Niners defensive front. They had 757 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: a dozen first down runs. They had about a half 758 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: dozen chunk runs ten or more yards. Now, of course, 759 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: you know, towards the end the game got out of hand, 760 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: and maybe that Niners defense got a little demoralized without 761 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: a quarterback. But to me, that's the key of the game. 762 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 1: I think both teams are pretty equal in most areas, 763 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: But that Eagle's offensive line, yes, to me, if they 764 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: neutralized Chris Jones and Frank Clark. Look out, Yeah, Paulie, 765 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: you know you've hurt me. Say it many many times 766 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: that you don't need the best offensive line in the league. 767 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: You don't need the worst offensive line in the league. 768 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: You want an offensive line that is good enough to 769 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: allow your talent to do what they do. Well, guess what, 770 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line is not only good enough, 771 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: but to your point, they're the best offensive line I 772 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: think in the National Football League. And now you think 773 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: of the talent that the Philadelphia Eagles have operating around 774 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: in and around that offensive line and Jalen Hurts of course, 775 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders, the running back, A J. Brown, DeVante Smith, 776 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard, it goes on and on and on. Now, 777 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the talent that is there is 778 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: magnified tenfold because of that offensive line, and that's what 779 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 1: makes them so powerful. You named all those standout players, right, 780 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean they got players the Philadelphia Eagles on both 781 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: sides of the ball. Did your giant safety Julian Love 782 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football NFL network this morning No News 783 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: by saying in studio with Good Morning Football about Nick Sirianni, 784 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: he's doing a good job because he's not getting in 785 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: the way of his team, and then he went on 786 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: to say that he's in for a free ride right now. 787 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: You guys can coach this team quote end quote. Then 788 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: when everybody tweeted out his sound bite from the TV side, 789 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: he retweeted and added, I'm not wrong. It's a players 790 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: league and the Eagles have a bunch of dogs, and 791 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't have nearly as much to do with the 792 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: coaching as it does the players. Your reaction to that, Polly, 793 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: you know how I feel about this, And Bill Belichick 794 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: would agree with me. Players win games. That is Bill Belichick. 795 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: That's straight from him. Players win games, but you gotta 796 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: have the schemes. Of course, coaching is important in the 797 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: National Football League. Never forget that. I'm not saying that 798 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: it's not important. I'm not saying there aren't good coaches 799 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: and bad coaches in the NFL. I'm not saying that 800 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 1: there are both. Beyond a shadow of a down, there 801 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 1: are right down the middle of the road as well. 802 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: But players, players win games. I cannot tell you, Paulie, 803 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 1: just how many times a play was designed that should 804 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: have worked and it didn't work because it was not 805 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: executed properly. It was not done correctly. Whether it was 806 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 1: a mental error or whether it was a physical error. 807 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: You're getting your face kicked in. Whatever it was, it 808 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: did not work because it wasn't executed by players. And 809 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 1: then how many times a play that should have never 810 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: worked never because of the scheme you were faced with 811 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,919 Speaker 1: and against and the scheme you were running. A play 812 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 1: that should have never worked worked because one player made 813 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 1: a play, whether it was on the offensive line, whether 814 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: it was the wide receiver, a tight end, a full back, 815 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 1: paul one guy makes a play and suddenly the play works. 816 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,919 Speaker 1: Players win games. As Bill Belichick would attest, coaches lose 817 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: them right. Give me a word on that Eagles pass rush. 818 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: They had a sixty two percent quarterback pressure rate in 819 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship, the highest and the next gen stat era. 820 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,240 Speaker 1: We know has Son Reddick, the former Cardinal. He knocked 821 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,439 Speaker 1: out Brock Purty in that first series of the game. 822 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: He has nineteen and a half sacks in nineteen games 823 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: this year, but he's far from the only dude on 824 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: that pass rush for the Eagles. Yeah, you know that's 825 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: gonna be the key for the Eagles. It's going to 826 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 1: be about stopping the Kansas City Chief's ability to run 827 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: the ball. I think they're gonna try to run at 828 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 1: the soft underbelly of the Philadelphia Eagles. That's the only 829 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: weakness on their team. But if the Eagles can keep 830 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: them in third and obvious pass situations, it's bad news 831 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,720 Speaker 1: for Pat Mahomes and that Chief's offense. And the Cardinals 832 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: hosted both teams. You've seen both teams firsthand. Sounds like 833 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 1: you're leaning towards the Eagles in this game. I am Paul, 834 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: and that makes me very uncomfortable because you got Pat 835 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: Mahomes on one side and Jalen Hurts on the other. Yeah, 836 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 1: and he looks ultramotivated. There's no doubt about that. 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