WEBVTT - Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 120 | Coaches Speak on Trevor Hit, Looking Toward the Future 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.120 Welcome to jag Zamas when San Atennani, Stevens, Brian Sexton, 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:22.320 and John Oser are with me as we go over everything. 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:24.560 Jaguars are gonna prepare for the Titans this week, but 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:27.760 we started with big thing number one, which is officially official. 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.080 The Jaguars entered Monday with a less than one percent 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:31.560 chance of making the playoffs. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.640 They now enter later into the week with zero percent 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:36.599 chance of making the playoffs. Brian, this is. 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:38.720 Something we kind of saw coming. It's happened to the 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.200 scene before, but this one hurts a little bit extra. 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:43.680 But considering the expectations going into the season. 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:48.400 Yeah, it makes the letdown a little bit further down. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.880 We've been hoping John for weeks that they would start 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:54.520 a little bit of a winning streak so that at 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.680 least at some point in December you'd have a meaningful 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:01.080 game Like if this then that which is always where 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:01.440 you want. 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:02.680 To be, especially at the holidays. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.960 There's people, you know, whether it gets cold and people 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.200 are inside and they're watching football, and you just want 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.560 your team to even have the slightest glimmer of hope 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.360 and there is none, and what you really want to 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.160 make sure is that apathy doesn't set in and people 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:19.319 just don't paying attention to you because you're not in 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:20.480 the mix whatsoever. 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:22.720 The officially official thing was a bummer. 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.960 Yeah, it's it's been common. It reminds me a lot 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.800 of eighteen when they came in with high hopes, had 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.600 a decent start, unlike this year, and then it has 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:35.840 sort of petered out and by the end you knew 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:36.319 it was over. 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:39.000 It's disappointing. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.000 This team has had bad seasons, too many bad seasons 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.399 for fourteen years. But because of the expectations, guy, this 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.960 is obviously up with, you know, the two or three 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:51.160 most disappointing seasons. 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:52.200 Absolutely, our big thing. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:53.760 Number two is going to be to play or not 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.280 to play. We talk about the Jaguars no longer in 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.680 the playoff hunts at this point, Trevor Lawrence in concussion protocol, 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.040 but he's also dealing with a shoulder injury before that, 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:03.720 So do you play him going forward? 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:05.880 Doug Peterson talked a little bit about that decision. 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.639 You got to take it all into consideration, obviously, and 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.880 and you know, make make a smart choice, make a 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:18.519 you know, make a headsy sort of determination with him 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.440 and his health. And then obviously you know. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:24.000 Where we are as a team right now, John, No 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.840 decision has been made at this point. Five more games 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.639 to go with this season, but as you mentioned, no 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.639 playoff chances. Trevor's been playing hurt already. What do you 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:33.000 think will end up happening with you? 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.160 Well, it feels like this is very fluid and very 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:40.360 still real time. I will say, just trying to interpret 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:49.480 Doug's voice, tone, words, it will be considered to not 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:53.480 play Trevor again. It's hard to know what that decision 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:57.919 will be because when you're speculating on players playing because 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.959 of health issues and you don't know it's exactly the health. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.920 How fast does he come back from my protocol? How 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.720 bad is the shoulder? It's easy to say, Brian, oh, 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.560 sit him. But there's some nuances there in terms of health, 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.359 in terms of things that I think they have to 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:18.120 be decided. My guess is they'll lean toward not playing them, 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.160 with a lot of discussions still to come on that point. 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:24.680 Brian, we're just interpreting here. I heard Doug say in 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:28.240 my head, he's done right. He just the way that 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.040 Doug communicates the last couple of years, he left the 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.240 door wide open and he would narrow it. 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.920 In fact, talking to him before last week's. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.400 Game about Trevor's return, you know, you want to send 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:41.160 the message to the locker room that we're all in 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.840 on every game left on the schedule. There's the development 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.520 that we've talked about John with the young players and 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.760 making sure that they had their best opportunities ahead of them. 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.680 But that and the fact that the Jaguars signed former 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:56.360 Bishop Kenny quarterback Johnny Wolford to the practice squad this week, 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.720 I mean, it's just checkbox, checkbox, checkbox. I would be 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.760 stun if we see Trevor Lawrence again. And I would 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:04.520 say this because I have been that guy that says, 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.360 if he's healthy, you play him. Because of all the 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:10.000 reasons that we just discussed the fencing posture right that 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:11.760 I went back and I watched it after we talked 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.920 about it on Monday, there's no reason to mess with that, 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:18.359 especially with the playoffs completely out of the perspective right now. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.159 I would focus on getting. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:24.200 Him ready to go into the off season healthy, whatever 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:25.800 he needs to do to make sure that he's ready 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:26.960 to go next spring and summer. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:28.880 We're going to go to our final big thing now, 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.200 which is the suspension. Suspension coming down from the NFL 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.800 as he's Alshi here has been suspended for three games 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.120 for that hit on Trevor Lawrence. He'll be appealing that suspension. 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:38.320 Ran. 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.719 I think we all assumed the suspension was coming, but 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:42.719 trying to set a tone with the three games here. 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.160 Yeah, I've read that it's two hundred and sixty five 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.400 thousand dollars a game, which puts it at seven hundred 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:52.440 and ninety five thousand dollars. That's a big mistake, and 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.080 the three game suspension is a black mark on his record. 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.839 It will travel with him wherever he goes in terms 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.960 of his reputation. So that seems like the right amount. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.560 But you know, when you lead with the forearm John 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.080 like he did. I mean, it was just it was brutal. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.679 If they had suspended him for the rest of the season, 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:12.560 which would only be one more game, I would have 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:13.400 been a little happier. 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.400 Yeah, I know some fans aren't happy about the length. 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.520 Based on what the NFL does in these situations, that 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:25.360 felt like a pretty stiff penalty to me. I think 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.240 it was the least that they could do had they 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.160 done four or five games. My guess is the pushback 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.560 from the NFLPA would have been a little stronger. I 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.680 don't know how you look at that hit and not 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.640 think it has to be multiple games. Three is fine. 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:41.719 Four would have been fine somewhere in that ring. You know. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.120 Listen, a late hit on the quarterback is one thing 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.719 you're gonna get. They're gonna get a fine, right. But 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.000 I think in any case John, where you lead with 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.479 the forearm to the head, you're never gonna take the 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.679 physical aspect out of the game. There's gonna be hits 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.240 that you don't like. But the way that he led 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.760 with that forearm was vicious. And I don't know how 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:03.080 you say it wasn't intentional. He can say only once. 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.560 That's not in my heart. But that's not what's on TV. 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:07.560 That's not what's gonna leave it infa me on the 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.200 internet for years and years. You lead with this towards 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.559 another player's head and neck. Man, as far as I'm concerned, 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:14.800 they can't suspend you enough. 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:19.680 Yeah, it's uh. Look, I got an even to Bay saying, well, 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:23.600 it was calculated. I don't know that. Before the game, 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.080 he said, if I get a shot at Trevor, I'm 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.240 gonna do this but if you watch the tape or 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:33.360 the video of it, it's hard to argue that something 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:37.679 in him made him lead with the forearm. He laded 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.200 the forearm, he went after the head. As Foya Lucan 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.400 said on Monday, if he wasn't going after it, if 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.359 Trevor hadn't slid, then he's going after knees. You have 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:50.839 very measured people like Foyer is saying, look, there was 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:52.520 no way that I was going to be a clean 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.240 hit no matter what happened, trying to figure out what 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.120 he was doing, calling it a dirty play. NFL players 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:02.359 usually don't react as the Jaguars have reacted to this. Again, 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.960 you had to suspend. This felt like the minium you 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:06.279 could do. 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:08.919 Talk a little bit more about that reaction coming up 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:18.680 after the break here on Jagsam jag xam brought to 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.920 you by Fields Autogroup Jacksonville. Jacksonville was premier luxury autogroup. 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.520 You can head over to field Auto dot com. 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:25.920 This that. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.840 This os. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.040 No I. You know, I definitely appreciate how our team responded, 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.720 you know, I mean protecting the quarterback and and all 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:45.800 of that. Obviously, you hate to see it escalate to 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:50.240 where it went but you know the second half of 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:54.200 the football game too. There the officials basically worn both teams. 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.040 It was a no tolerance. It was a zero tolerance 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:58.600 you know in the second half. So if there was 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:03.320 anything that transpired, that player was going to be you know, 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.680 ejected as well. So, you know, thought, I thought both 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:11.040 teams you know, played the second half as they should. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:12.920 You know, it was a tough, physical football game in 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:16.040 the second half, and and there you know, there wasn't 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:19.880 anything anything that escalated from you know, from that hit. 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:23.360 In the first half. Welcome back into jack XAM and 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.920 Doug Peterson talking a little bit about his team's reaction 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.480 to that hit on Trevor Lawrence, what that spilled into, 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:30.360 and we're going to talk a little this for that 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.360 with that, because I think hear in Jacksonville from some 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.320 of the fans John as you mentioned writing into you 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.160 thought more should have been done after what happened to 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.480 Trevor in terms of saliation or whatnot on the field, 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.040 and then head coach of the Texans and Miko Ryan 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.160 saying Jaguars overreacted. 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.200 So I think I know where we all stand. 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:48.400 On this, but let's talk it out a little bit 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:52.280 because I think obviously your visceral reaction Evan Ingram, obviously 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.439 that happening, and it kind of spilling forward, but then 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.000 being reignited by al Shire later and the second brawl, 0:08:58.320 --> 0:08:59.520 Everyone's emotions were high. 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.800 I think I said on the show on Monday that 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.040 I had respect for Demiko Ryans and the way that 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.200 he presented himself. I mean, everyone that I know that 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.280 knows him thinks that he's not only a. 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:10.400 Good person, but a good coach. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:12.720 Well, Doug Peterson just schooled him on how to handle 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.720 this right. I mean, I know some people in Jacksonville, 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.200 some fans, have been dissatisfied with the lack of emotion 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.160 from the head coach, the lack of anger from Doug. 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.240 But the job is to win the game, not the fight. 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.200 And Doug knew that he had to keep his team 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.760 even keeled. And then he's been even keeled because he 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:32.800 understands after the fact, what good does it do to 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:34.720 stand at the podium and pound his fist. 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:36.200 I'm the emotional guy. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.520 I like that, but I get that that's not who 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.320 Doug is and it wasn't the right way and Demiko Ryans, 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.520 the respect I had was here. It's gone down a 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:47.000 notch after his comments in Houston about the Jaguars overreacting 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.400 and about the slide being Trevor's fault. 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:51.160 I mean, it just seemed like crap to me. 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:56.720 Yeah, some of my most reserved friends. I had a 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.319 text from my buddy and him know who he is, 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.960 eight version text of I've lost respect for Doug after this, 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:05.640 And I get there's that feeling in the fan base. 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:10.000 Doug takes the approach coaching that he's going to try 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.840 to have an even keel, and he bends toward that. 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.320 It's a conscious effort. So there's no way Doug wasn't 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.760 upset about it. But I think he just doesn't want 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:23.760 to show it. And that's the explanation there. Look as 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.120 a journalist, I try when there's a situation like this 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:31.200 to look at things people say, like Tamiko Ryans and 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.800 try to maybe find okay, we're all emotional about it. 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:35.400 What did he mean? 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:38.760 I couldn't do it on this one. I mean, to 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:43.360 say the Jaguars overreacted and to even imply that Trevor 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:46.439 did something wrong to bring it out. 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:48.840 It was absurd. 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:53.640 So but I get that he has he has to 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:59.560 defend his team, But when he was playing, my guess 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.760 is he probably would have gone after somebody for doing 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:02.439 that to his quarterbacks. 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.640 Listen, I think he's underreacting if he thinks that his 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.120 guy leading with the forehand armed to the head and 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.040 neck is not worthy of a. 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.000 Team losing its mind on the side. 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.720 If that had been his quarter patch, sure on their sideline, 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.640 the Texans would have reacted the exact same way. He 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.079 would have been better to say nothing other than I'm 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:21.760 going to defend my guy because that's what a coach 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:23.840 is expected to do. But I would hope that we 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.120 wouldn't have any more of this. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.560 I think the defensive player, as you mentioned, totally understandable, 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.840 but I think they're all we're all getting caught up 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:33.680 in it a little bit, going too fark trying to 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:34.440 defend certain things. 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:35.600 I do want to say the expects of it. 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.640 Doug has handled it right. He has been the leader 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.800 of this thing, and I think he's handled it right. 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.200 I think if you think the Doug needed to be 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.679 more emotional, then you're being too emotional. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:53.199 And to clarify the overriding factor here was the forearm, 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.400 not the time, and it's awfully hard just from an 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.000 executive point of view to look at the play and 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.720 not think that I had malicious intent. 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.480 We're going to move past that today and officially a 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.240 little bit of a joke as well, or officially too 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.120 early draft talk because now that we're officially eliminating from 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.000 the playoffs, let's talk a little bit of draft. I 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.040 know you guys love that so much. Where's your head 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:14.840 at right now? If the draft was today, what would 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:16.600 you draft? Was a position group would. 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:16.800 You go for? 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.720 I facetiously almost made my hot take yesterday that Travis 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:23.360 Hunter will be both a cornerback and a wide receiver 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.720 next fall in Jacksonville. 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.400 Music to some people's ears, it's. 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.160 Not a great draft for offensive tackles last year was, 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.160 but you opted to take Brian Thomas and that's panned 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:37.599 out well. John, I think you were the one that 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.800 said this that it's about four or five guys in 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.000 the first round that are difference makers. You're going to 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.200 be in a position probably to take a difference maker 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:45.600 whichever one is there. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:47.240 But Travis Hunter would be a guy I'd like to 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:47.840 have on my team. 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:53.720 Yeah. My edict, because I've been through this before, is 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.360 in the O zone. I do not talk about the draft. 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:02.400 Elimination doesn't cut it because guess what high standard many years, well, 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:06.360 no January eighth comes around and that's all. It's a 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.480 long haul till April fifteenth. So I give myself this time. 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:15.120 But in answer to your question, I don't know the 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:21.320 offensive line will be the priority because now I don't 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:22.839 know how they're gonna change the offensive line the off 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:26.400 season because they got eighty percent company up. But I'm 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:31.040 tired around here of not being good enough on the 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:38.160 two fronts. So I build the lines on both sides 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:40.559 until you can build no more. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:42.920 Defensive line for me, if we're picking today, when I 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.840 get a little tough, there are. 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.680 Some very good defensive tackles. The kid from Michigan is 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.080 thought to be a top five pick as well. So listen, 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.040 I'm with you. That's always been my stance. You got 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.839 to win in the trenches, but tantalizing players that can 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:57.679 do a lot of different things for you and are 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.640 all at difference makers. You've got to have a difference maker, somebody. 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.800 What does it change these guys that you just can't defend? 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:10.160 Right, And we're starting over time here, But you're exactly right, 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:15.360 and at the same time, if you keep reaching for 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:19.120 tantalizing every year, then all of a sudden you're meh 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.920 on the line and they've sorted and not every player, 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:26.920 but I'm saying overall performance, there's been a lot of 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:31.320 years right now where they're just good enough on the 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.120 two lines and not great. It's time to get great. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:35.760 Well, think of it this way, Kye. 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.000 There are defensive ends, there are defensive tackles. There's a 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:43.480 couple of cornerbacks. There are players that this team needs. 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.360 So it's just a matter of deciding which one would 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.720 be hardest to find anywhere else in the draft and 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:49.720 which one fits what you. 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.160 Want to do also depends where we end up in 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.600 terms of draft position as well. Because of these last 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.360 five games coming up, we're going to talk a little 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.880 bit about what's going on elsewhere in the AFC South 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:08.880 and some of the games coming up. 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So let's talk a little bit about the Colts, 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.240 who got a one point win over the Patriots this week, 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.560 and the Cults are two games out of the division 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.560 A behind the Texans in the AFC South, and they've 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.480 got a pretty easy schedule, so I'm wondering if that'll 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.840 get a little more interesting. We've talked about the Texans schedule. 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.400 They have a bye week coming up, but then I 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:52.800 believe it's Miami, Kansas City, Baltimore and one of their 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.480 division I think Titans to end the year. So Texans 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.120 have a gauntlet to go and the Colts have a 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.840 little bit of an easier ride. Do you think now 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:02.360 they're putting something together with Anthony Richardson? Could this occur? 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:06.720 Wells, they have wanted to have Anthony Richardson performing at 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:11.160 a moderately high level. With Jonathan Taylor, who I just 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.400 think is one of the most underrated backs the last 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.920 couple of years because he's been battling ankle. 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.080 Injuries, it looks like they've got something going with him now. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.040 There's a little bit of a little bit of something 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.200 in the passing game, but primarily when you have two 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.200 guys who are so good on the ground. Yeah, I 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.000 think the Colts can put something together here. They're getting 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.680 some of their injured defensive players back. I think if 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.760 Anthony Richardson can avoid the turnovers, I think that they 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.880 could make at least some of those. If that this, 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.760 then that sort of games that get fans energized. 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.560 The Colts are what the Jaguar should have been right now. 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:42.680 I think that's absolutely right. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.600 I don't think the Jaggers were a great team coming in. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.160 I think we overrated him a little bit. But they're 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.840 better than what they show, and had they won a 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.800 couple of games that they should have won or just 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.560 not given away a few, that's where the Colts are 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.240 six and seven, right the jay that would be six 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:04.040 and seven. Yeah, and so yes, because of the Texans schedule, 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.399 the Colts can turn this into something. I don't think anybody. 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.119 I don't think anybody in the division is very good, 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.840 and I'll couch that by saying I think we're the 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.720 worst to be the worst record, but yeah, they can 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.639 get into it because it's not very good division. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.560 Dagars had a chance to beat the Texans in both 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:23.800 of those games, and with their backup on Sunday, very 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.040 nearly had a chance to do it. So I don't 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:26.640 think the Texans are all that good. 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.440 Well, we're gonna battle it out with the Titans to 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.399 see who's third and who's fourth, essentially, because the Titans 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.040 are now three and nine after they lost to the 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:37.920 Commanders this last week. And this is Titans and Jaguars 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.120 games are always a little bit weird. 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:40.639 But we're gonna head to Nashville this week, so it 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:41.480 should get interesting. 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.280 They have a couple of guys though, Jeffrey Simmons I think, 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.200 being the guy that I hiled in the highest regard. 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:50.960 But the defensive tackle is just a game wrecker and 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.120 he's gonna challenge the inside of the Jaguars offensive line 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:58.840 this week. Ninety eight is so good, so talented that 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.240 if you don't have two guys on him, then he's 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:02.280 gonna own the backfield. 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.600 Yeah, the U this gets gonna be tough for the 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:09.000 Jags because there's the other quarterback, and frankly, they're all 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:14.240 tough for the Jags right now because the Titans these 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:17.160 games matter in these last four or five games. It's 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.800 a first year coach, it's a quarterback who, after being 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:22.760 sort of felt like he was out of it early 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.600 in the season, is now starting to build up a 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:30.080 little bit of a resume where good performance for Will 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.480 Levis in the last five games might change the franchise's 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:37.359 thought on quarterback. So they're gonna be playing with that 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.640 in mind. Let's figure this out. Uh, there's still a 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:44.520 team with a motivation on that level beyond pride. I'm 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.040 not sure what the Jaguars motivation is. 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.080 Well, they'll have some sort of motivation. I'll sure they'll 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:49.520 figure it out. 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.440 They're back in the building today and we'll hear from 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.960 Doug Peterson and a quarterback twe named later at some 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:54.600 point today. 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:55.399 So stay with us. 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:56.919 We'll tell you else what else is going on the 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:04.520 rest of this week. Shags fans, if you want customized 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.399 Jaguars furniture for your home, checkout zipchair dot com to 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:11.240 browse all the customizable options. Zip chair is furniture for fans. 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:14.240 And let's get going on the ground. 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:15.840 Come on, it starts when that's up front. 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:19.960 It starts when get something going. Bruh co Allo. 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:40.440 Like Thomas. 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:53.640 The Evan Evan Ingram was miked up for that game 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.160 against the Texans. So that's video you're definitely gonna want 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.879 to check out. And hear from him this week, Johnny 0:19:58.960 --> 0:19:59.960 talking to him for the podcast. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.639 I am talking it for the podcast, and I was 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:05.320